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Speaker 3: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks podcast

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Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, November tenth, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: J E.

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Speaker 3: Skeets and today we got the Homye Task Melis, we

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Speaker 3: Magic Happen JD. And a special guest. He's back for

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Speaker 3: a second time. It's the athletics very own MBA insider

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Speaker 3: John Hollinger. John, appreciate you joining us here this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Guys, we're going to get into your mock draft up

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Speaker 3: on the Athletic But my first question, I want to

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Speaker 3: know what time did you end up cracking that celebratory

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Speaker 3: beer on Saturday, and what beer did you go with?

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Speaker 1: John?

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Speaker 2: So it was it was slightly before noon, so which

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Speaker 2: I don't typically do, and it was it was a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we went went down smooth. It was a warm

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Speaker 3: Good look, NBA draft sounds weird. To say this out loud.

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Speaker 3: But it's just over a week away, which means teams

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Speaker 3: talk about it. So the mocks are coming fast and furious.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to keep up here. We got

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Speaker 3: ESPN dropping them, you got the Ringer and now yours. John.

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Speaker 3: It's up on the Athletic. I encourage everybody, all of

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Speaker 3: our listeners, to go read it, and I know they will.

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Speaker 3: You wrote that, you made your calls, and you read

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Speaker 3: the interwebs, and you searched for other tea leaves to

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Speaker 3: help you construct this thing. What might happen on November eighteenth?

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Speaker 3: You've got your top three of Lamello to the Wolves,

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Speaker 3: How confident are you feeling with your mock this year

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a hard year to do it. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Like who would be the pick at number one this year?

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Speaker 6: At what point did LaMelo Ball sneak into the number

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Speaker 6: Oh that's a crazy it's a crazy, uh dichotomy. You

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Speaker 1: Who the heck knows?

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Speaker 2: Well, so here here's the thing. Like these other guys

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Speaker 2: You know, Actually, I think you're going to see a

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Speaker 2: think even though it's it's it's kind of being to

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Speaker 3: Saw the Ringer asked this question. I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to throw it at you, John, Does it

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Speaker 3: because there's so much uncertainty across all of these guys

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Speaker 3: Do you think there's some truth to that? You know,

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Speaker 3: it's like why not? I mean it's like we're not

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Speaker 2: So well, I mean, if the upside is there, sure,

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Speaker 2: And so you know, my argument, like I had I

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Speaker 2: So I think there's a case to be made for that.

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Speaker 2: Now you still have to weigh the risk versus the reward, right,

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Speaker 2: why not, right?

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Speaker 1: I saw him hit three shots in the row.

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Speaker 2: They never meant pretty good open the park the other day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, on that front, do you ever just try and

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Speaker 2: Oh like a like a made up European name. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Let's let's let's talk trades, because this does make this

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Speaker 3: traft really confusing as we're talking about here, because you say,

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Speaker 3: Is there one that makes sense, be it a Pistons

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Speaker 2: The problem is finding teams that are genuinely excited to

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Speaker 2: been some talk about the Pistons doing that, although they

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Speaker 2: Charlotte's been pretty conservative though as far as taking swings

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Speaker 2: like forty sixty. Okay, let's call it that that's something

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Speaker 2: like that happens. But I do think like, if they

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, So he likes something similar to what we saw

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be exactly that kind of deal right.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, and because they're in love with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, except hopefully it would turn out better for Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: It just makes the most sense for their short term

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Speaker 2: And then in the short term, obviously he gives them

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Speaker 5: A lot of the talk with Wiseman and the Warriors

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Speaker 5: How hard is that to convince a guy who's going

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Speaker 2: I do question whether he's whether he can rebound at

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Speaker 3: It's so strange with these top three guys. Everything I

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Speaker 4: No one seems excited about any of them exactly, well

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Speaker 2: Are like, yeah, we'll get back to you on that.

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Speaker 3: Buyers, right, You, I'm sure are looking at other mock

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Speaker 3: reading these other ones that like, you know, that is

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Speaker 2: Maybe uh Orlando a little bit, Like I think you know,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon, if you already drafted, there's one other guy

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Speaker 2: offensive skills. So I mean, Tony, if Aaron Smith or

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Speaker 2: Sadique Bay is there when they pick, they got to

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Speaker 6: Andrew Nicholson could be there I don't even know. Their

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Speaker 2: There's just so many you gotta throw in for the

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Speaker 2: Canadian You wrote when talking about the Blazers and your

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Speaker 2: mock draft, John quote, I've heard some wild stuff here.

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Speaker 3: I mean like wild stuff, but I'm not sure how

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Speaker 3: much of it to believe. Give us the scoops.

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Speaker 2: Multiple people tell me, like the Blazers are looking at

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Speaker 2: sixteenth pick. Oh okay, and that could completely rock the

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Speaker 3: Okay. So it's not the idea of maybe of like

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Speaker 3: It's more like they're It's.

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Speaker 2: Like a guy from Piedmont Community College might actually wow, Wow,

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Speaker 1: Is right now. He's doing an interview. Serry Man. The

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I want the wild stuff to mean

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Speaker 3: the Blazers draft Lee las set though. Whatever it is

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Speaker 3: this is this is gonna be such a fascinating fascinating draft.

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Speaker 3: It's like, are you almost excited that you're not involved

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Speaker 3: with the team in this one, John, because it is

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Speaker 2: A little bit. I mean, I tell you, from the

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Speaker 2: and watching the draft with everybody else. It is fun,

436
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: whereas free agency is completely nerve wracking and I don't

437
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 2: miss that at all. So I would say Draft Knight

438
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 2: in a war room is actually great fun.

439
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 3: Except you know, I remember the Christmas. I thought I

440
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 3: was getting a great toy and I got boots. I

441
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 3: remember it to this day. I got boots. That was

442
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 3: my big Christmas gift that year.

443
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 2: Well, being in Atlanta means you'll never get boots for Chris.

444
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 1: That's why I moved here.

445
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 3: I want boots. So let me spin that into a question,

446
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: who's the boots of this draft man? Yeah, like who

447
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 3: are you? I guess you do sound pretty low on

448
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards. You're not all that and nails.

449
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 2: So I actually I actually put Edwards second on my

450
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: board because I just think the upside is there. I

451
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 2: actually am not crazy about Wiseman just because you know,

452
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 2: the league is just going so far away from his

453
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 2: player type. Sure, and and there's just enough enough questions

454
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: about watching him, you know when I when I watched

455
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 2: him play, you know, he played a couple of games

456
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: for Memphis, and like he's not a dominating rebounder, like

457
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 2: he can be kind of soft at times. I just

458
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: I can see where the where people see the upside

459
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 2: with him. I just like physically and in somehow he plays.

460
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: It reminds me a lot of Hassan Whiteside, which is

461
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: still like a good player. But I don't know.

462
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 1: I I so I have number two type.

463
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have a hard time getting really you know,

464
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: riled up about him. And then I would say, like

465
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 2: further down Jaden McDaniels, like watching him at watch him

466
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 2: this year, like he wasn't good. He just wasn't And

467
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: I think some people see his body and kind of

468
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 2: project out and think, you know, I think he still

469
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 2: could have a lot of potential and turn into a player.

470
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 2: And I just questioned, how much is really there to

471
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: work with?

472
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: Interesting? Which one are you most confident about with your

473
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 3: with your big board here, like the team and the

474
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 3: player that just makes the most sense in Like, if

475
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 3: you're a betan, you're like, I'm.

476
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: Putt there on so much talk about Patrick Williams being

477
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 2: Detroit's pick at seven.

478
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, So so to talk me through that, I mean,

479
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 3: I'm an idiot with this stuff, Like why him? What's

480
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 3: he bring to the table? Why are the Pistons in

481
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 3: love with him?

482
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: So? He zoom forward who played for Florida State this year.

483
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: He actually came off the bench. He was the youngest

484
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 2: player in college basketball, I believe, or if he wasn't

485
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: the youngest player in college basketball, he's the youngest college

486
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: prospect in this draft, definitely, so still a lot of

487
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 2: room to grow. Six', eight plays either forward, spot pretty decent,

488
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: shooter can put it on the, floor a little pretty

489
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: good defensive. METRICS i think there's some question about whether

490
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: he can defend on the perimeter or. Not but you, know,

491
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: overall like definitely a pretty alluring, prospect but also just

492
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: kind of fits into the Way detroit is drafted and

493
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 2: fits into the Way Troy reaver drafted when he was

494
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: In Oklahoma, city and just in having conversations with other

495
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: people around the, league that was the one consistent thing

496
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: that everyone's, like Because Patrick wruims was kind of perceived

497
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 2: as a guy would maybe go in the early. Teens

498
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: and so the two things everyone's at One Patrick williams

499
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: is moving, up and then two like oh, Yeah i've

500
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: Heard detroit And Patrick, Williams oh, yeah and like that's like,

501
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: loud clear drum beat.

502
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: There, okay all, Right so if he's still, THERE i

503
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 3: guess what do they have the seventh?

504
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: Pick is that?

505
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: Right we had the seventh. PICK i think there's a

506
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: pretty good chance he's. THERE i don't really See atlanta

507
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: taking him at. SIX i suppose The hawks could trade that,

508
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: pick but, again there's more sellers than. BUYERS i just

509
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: don't know what they're trading it for that that really

510
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: pushes them to do. That SO i think at the

511
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: end of the, day he probably is there at, seven

512
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: and if, SO i Expected droit to take.

513
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 5: Him something that came up a couple of times in

514
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 5: your mock. Draft is sort of the concept of gms

515
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 5: having a, Type like you're Mentioning Troy weaver when he

516
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 5: was with The, thunder they would always get defensive guys

517
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,479
Speaker 5: who maybe couldn't play as much on the offense side

518
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 5: of the. Ball same with the long. Guys For John,

519
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 5: hammond who's now with The, magic used to be with The.

520
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 5: Bucks is that something that you're constantly aware of when

521
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 5: you're in the draft, room of having a type and

522
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 5: maybe other teams knowing you have a type and trying

523
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 5: to play against, that or is that something you lean.

524
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: Into i'm not Sure i'm trying TO i don't know

525
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: if we were perceived as having a. TYPE i think people.

526
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 2: WERE i think people were confused with us, because you,

527
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: KNOW i came from the analytics, background and Then Chris,

528
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 2: wallace who was there my last five, years came from

529
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: a completely different. Background SO i think people didn't know

530
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 2: what we were going to do because of that keep them,

531
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: Going so that was a little, HELPFUL i. Guess BUT

532
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: i do think with some teams you sort of know

533
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 2: what their tendencies are and that helps you maybe get

534
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 2: a little bit of a read on what they might.

535
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: Do and you, KNOW i tried. TO i tried to

536
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: bring that into my mock draft. TOO i, mean this

537
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: is certainly the type of thinking we would do internally

538
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: when we're trying to scheme out what what might happen

539
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: on draft.

540
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: Night makes.

541
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 5: Sense another sort of type thing THAT i thought was

542
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 5: funny was Predicting Tyrese halliburton to The. Bulls everybody who's

543
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 5: A bulls fan knows about The Iowa state To chicago.

544
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 5: Connection it seemed to be over after the fake offseason

545
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 5: we had. Here but what do you, know The bulls

546
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 5: finally move up in the. Draft they're not picking seventh,

547
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 5: anymore they're picking forth in a three player, draft and

548
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 5: we're getting Another iowa state.

549
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: Guy SHOULD i be? Excited you?

550
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: SHOULD i really Like. HALIBURT i think he's. Good he can,

551
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: Shoot he's a good, passer active, defender good in, transition

552
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: can play off the, ball can play either guard. SPOT

553
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 2: i think he's gonna be a GOOD i don't think

554
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: he's gonna be like An All, star BECAUSE i don't

555
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: think he has quite enough shot creation ability to get

556
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: to that. Level BUT i think he's gonna be a really,

557
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: good positive starting player for a long, time So i'd

558
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: be pretty excited IF i was The.

559
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: Bulls, Well, john obviously a big basketball. FAN i know

560
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: you're a soccer fan. Football you love the beautiful. Game

561
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: are you A timbers? Fan is that?

562
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: Right Portland? Timbers, yes there you.

563
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: Go how are they doing?

564
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: Quickly they are the third seed in The west heading

565
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: into the playoffs? Here so so, YEAH i don't know

566
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: if they're going to be able to you, know they

567
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: made The cup final Against. ATLANTA i think it was

568
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: two years, ago, Right BUT i don't know if they're

569
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: going to be able to get back to there because

570
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: they've had too many. Injuries now are You but they

571
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 2: won the MLS's Back tournament, Though oh, okay and they're

572
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: the only team that's ever won.

573
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 3: It, well are you a golf fan, Also, John, no

574
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 3: you're not a golf. Fan that's unfortunate for an ad read.

575
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: Here not a, Golfer john at.

576
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: ALL i just never got into it pipe putts all, right, okay?

577
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 3: Okay actually awful through.

578
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: The, windmill yeah, exactly you, know get into the clowns

579
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: mouth on eighteen and pre. Pizza.

580
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: YEAH i actually thought being in a front, OFFICE i

581
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: don't know, why like you'd have to take up golf

582
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: because you'd have to get out there on the course

583
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 3: and talk trades and. Whatever BUT i guess.

584
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: Not, no nobody has any time for. Golf, well Dark,

585
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: rivers that's all he does during draft season or, yeah, yeah,

586
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: NO i mean actually it's the coaches and the personnel

587
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: who travel with the. Team they actually have a lot

588
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: more time for golf because they're doing so much of

589
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: what they do at, night so they there's definitely the,

590
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: time you, Know, okay you squeeze us in between shoot

591
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: around and the game or before shoot around or. WHATEVER

592
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: i don't, know but not. You they're on the road,

593
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: anyway you, know like, yeah, yeah living it. Up we

594
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: got an off day In. Phoenix, okay let's, cool let's play.

595
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: Eighteen but, yeah not on the front office, side not so. Much,

596
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: well let's.

597
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: Go through some more names here in your. Draft in

598
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: your mock, draft we talked a lot About LaMelo And

599
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: edwards And wiseman and a lot of people have some other.

600
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: Names though maybe you can talk about, strengths, weaknesses EVEN

601
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: nba comparisons if you. Want Killian hate is a great,

602
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: name first, off just an AWESOME nba Named. KILLIAN i

603
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: think there's Another killian too out.

604
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: There Killian tilly From gonzaga could work his way into

605
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: the end of the first, round probably goes in the.

606
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: Second but he's he's interesting. Too i've never heard the Name.

607
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: Killian and finally we're gonna have two heres suddenly in

608
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: AN nba drive and they're both From.

609
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: France it's.

610
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: Amazing it's must be a popular name. There So Killian,

611
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: HAYES i, mean, yeah you said he's the higher. One

612
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: what should people know about him or what you like or?

613
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: Dislike and AGAIN nba comps where you see him, going

614
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: where you have?

615
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: Him, yeah so he's He's french teenager who played In

616
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: germany this. Year very good on the, ball a good,

617
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: handle especially with his left, hand really good footwork for

618
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: getting to floaters and step backs and. Whatnot good size

619
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: is probably like six four sixty. Five pretty good, defender

620
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: not like athletically explosive, though and at this point not

621
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: a good long range, shooters a very good foul, shooter

622
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: but has struggled from the three point. Line so a

623
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: lot of different opinions you here on. Him some think

624
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: he's way too left hand, dominant that people take away

625
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: a strong. Hand it's really easy to defend. Him some

626
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: people are worried that he's not an a lead athlete

627
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: and how he's gonna you, know finish in the pain

628
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: over length when he's playing AGAINST nba athletes instead of

629
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: THE i, Mean germany is like a decent, league but

630
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: it's you, know it's definitely a step up going to

631
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: THE nba from. There and then other people compare him

632
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: To i've heard comparison To Jamal, murray like for the

633
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: kind of the footwork he has to get into these

634
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: off the dribble shots evokes some comparisons to. Him he's

635
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: also a really good, passer, yuh so he can be

636
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: like that lead ball handler even though he's maybe guarding

637
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: the other teams. Too so there's a wide variety of

638
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: opinions on. Him he's definitely gonna go in the. Lottery

639
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: i'm curious to see where exactly that. Is you Hear

640
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: phoenix at, ten you hear The knicks at, Eight you

641
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 2: hear Even detroit at. Seven if they don't Do Patrick.

642
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: Williams so interested to see where he ends up and

643
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: interested to see what he looks like in AN nba.

644
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 5: Game you Mentioned Jamal murray as a, comparison WHICH i

645
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: think is a little more fair because of the left handed.

646
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 5: Nature he's obviously Getting harden And genobli comparisons as. Well

647
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 5: those guys Are hall of. Famers you mentioned the left

648
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 5: hand dominant. Factor how big of a deal is that

649
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 5: for AN nba. Player you had a left hand dominant

650
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 5: player down there In, Memphis Zach. Randolph he seemed to be,

651
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 5: okay getting to his left every single time he needed.

652
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: To, yeah ALTHOUGH i mean he wasn't playing point. Guards

653
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: it was probably a little.

654
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: Bit you.

655
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: Know the COMPARISON i always make is Like John stockton

656
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: played twenty years and dribbled maybe four times with his

657
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: left hand in my. Career so, like if you if

658
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: you just have enough of a counter that they have

659
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: to honor, it then you're probably gonna be mostly. Okay

660
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: but it's definitely a concern among people who watched him

661
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: and felt like he didn't deal great with ball pressure

662
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 2: and opponents who overplayed his left so and again at his,

663
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: AGE i, mean it's not like you're talking about, like,

664
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: well he's twenty five and he is what he. Is

665
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: he has no right, Hand like he's young enough to

666
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: develop that and he's game, too so you have to

667
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: think about. That that's.

668
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: Interesting like when you're drafting these, guys NOBODY'S i, mean

669
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: there ARE i guess a handful of them that are

670
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: perfect and they have very little holes in their, game

671
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: but for the most, part there is something, like, oh

672
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: could be a better, defender, uh you know, it could

673
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: be a better, shooter could have a better, handle stuff

674
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: like that when you were with The, grizzlies or even your,

675
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: opinion now which skill set that might be? Lacking are

676
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: you most confident you can build up in a? Guy

677
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: and then maybe the flip side of that is, like

678
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: if they don't got, that THEN i don't know if

679
00:32:59,120 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: they're ever going to have?

680
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: That is? There do you know WHAT i?

681
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: Mean does that make? Sense?

682
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: YEAH i would, say, uh, strength which you know you

683
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: can build up in the weight, room and shooting, ability

684
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: which is not perfectly, solvable but generally guys do get

685
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: better in that area over the course of their. Careers

686
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: Now i'm not you, Know i'm not saying draft somebody

687
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: who's a total Brick mason and think he's going to

688
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: turn Into Reggie, miller but you know they generally, progress, right, right,

689
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: Right so so those are the ones that you worry about.

690
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: LESS i mean, height you're not fixing, right like that

691
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: that you're probably stuck with unless you luck out into you,

692
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: know maybe the guy's eighteen and grows another, inch Like

693
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: yannis is still. Going, Yeah yannis is still. Growing i'm

694
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: pretty Sure jaron grew a little after we draft him In,

695
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: memphis so you can get that a little. BIT i

696
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: would say ball handling ability is. Tough usually guys who

697
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: who don't really have that creative ability on the ball

698
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: sometimes they develop, it but it's kind of, uncommon and

699
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: so that's a tougher one to bank. ON uh and leaping,

700
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: ABILITY i think you're basically stuck. With trainers will tell

701
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: you that they can improve a guy's vertical. Ball I'VE

702
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: i struggle to come up with real life, Examples, right

703
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: you're skeptical with?

704
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 5: That, YEAH i don't, Know, John i've been speaking with

705
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 5: Some instagram. GUYS i used to only be able to

706
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 5: get my first knuckle above the. Rim NOW i can

707
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 5: get all the way to the second.

708
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: Knuckle, yeah is that the nerf?

709
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 4: Rim?

710
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: Or?

711
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: Oh? YEAH i am waring the hoop as.

712
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: Well we're talking about a seven foot. Hoop loaded not,

713
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: crazy you, know because like this comes up With ball

714
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: a lot these interviews And, EDWARDS i guess, too how

715
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 3: much stock did you put into like when you talked to,

716
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: Them AND i guess now they're doing the zoom meetings

717
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: and stuff, Like, yeah you know some like some of

718
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: the kids are maybe be nervous. There maybe there's just

719
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: not all that charismatic like was that important to you?

720
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: Guys so, Yeah so the way it always worked at

721
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: the Draft, combi it's a little different this, year but

722
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: that the the combine would it was almost like speed

723
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: dating and you'd have these forty five minute time blocks

724
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: where they'd come into your like every team would have

725
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: a different hotel room on the same floor and the,

726
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: player the player would come in sit down with you

727
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: for forty five, minutes and then you just go on

728
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: to the next. Room so it's a contrived, situation is

729
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: What i'm trying to. Say and so it doesn't lend

730
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 2: itself well to really getting to know. SOMEBODY i, mean

731
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: there are things you can, do But i've often thought

732
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: that that can Create it can do as much to

733
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: mislead you as it can to lead you in the right.

734
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: Direction the thing that really has has a lot of

735
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: weight or should have a lot of. Weight is not

736
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 2: the interview directly with the, player but all the conversations

737
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: you have with the people around the player and doing

738
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 2: your background, research, right if you're visiting the school during

739
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: the season and spending time around the, program if you're

740
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: talking to all the people who had coached him or

741
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: who had been with him in the. Past if you

742
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 2: talk to the agents who recruited him and didn't get him,

743
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: right it can be a little. Dodgy you, know some

744
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: of them have some maybe, venom but.

745
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: But from that you get a.

746
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: Picture right if you talk to twenty people and all

747
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: twenty of them are, like this guy's bad, news like

748
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 2: you don't need to do the interview in some, ways,

749
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: right like you already. Know and, conversely right like when

750
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: when you get glowing reviews from everybody you talk to

751
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: about a, guy you sort of know going into that

752
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 2: interview that you, know maybe if HE'S i don't, know

753
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: maybe it was just like a little you, know awkward or,

754
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: whatever he's nervous or. Whatever you're just, like, okay, well

755
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: literally every PERSON i know in trust said this it is,

756
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: Great so, well.

757
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 6: That seems Like Tyreus halliburton at this, point, Right, YEAH.

758
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean the guys who get who get the glowingest reviews,

759
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: probably like on all the background reports would Be, Halliburton

760
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: Desmond bane FROM, tcu And Isaiah stewart From. Washington there you.

761
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: Go so those are like no, Brainers like you're just

762
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: gonna be able to plug m in and you know

763
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: they're gonna work.

764
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: Hard yeah that's the, hope.

765
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: RIGHT i, mean Like i've but you, Know i've gotten

766
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: great background on guys and had great interviews with, them

767
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: and the one fly in the ointment was that they

768
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: weren't that good at. Basketball so you have to sort

769
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: of remember to keep this in, perspective, Right like it's

770
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: a talent business at the end of the.

771
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: Day that's a fair. Point, YEAH i mean it does.

772
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: Help Malcolm brogged an awesome, guy also pretty good at.

773
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 3: Basketball it's a you need to sort of have a

774
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 3: little bit and went.

775
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: To the finest university and the land Is.

776
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah also smarter than everybody in the. Room will be

777
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: the president one. Day that's his, fact it's his. Nickname

778
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 3: and he's still like in his. Twenties, yeah that's a

779
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: good sign. Too, yeah That's i'm always fascinated with that

780
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: because he keeps seeing these things With LaMelo that people

781
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 3: are just, like you, know he's ALOOF i guess he's.

782
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: Not like, again he's not. Charismatic AND i THINK i

783
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: SAW i think it Was John. KOSHINSKY i just tweeted,

784
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 3: out actually he was off of your mock, draft you,

785
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 3: know talking about what the wolves were gonna. Do, yeah

786
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 3: as you had him Taking, LaMelo AND i thought he

787
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: did have an interesting point of, like if this is

788
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: your lead, guy this is your point, GUARD i mean

789
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: you may want that position to be your your vocal,

790
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: leader right like the guy that, is you, know in

791
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: the ear of all the, guys everybody on the same.

792
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: Page and if he's not, that if he's a very quiet,

793
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: kid or he just doesn't have that in HIS, dna

794
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: then maybe that is a. Concern AND i THINK i

795
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: personally think there's some truth to. That Maybe i'm.

796
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: Right, yeah just, yeah who are you taking ahead of

797
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 2: him that you're in love?

798
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 3: With, well, yeah you keep coming back to. That you're, like,

799
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah lameilo is not that, great, skeets but everybody after

800
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: him is not all that. Amazing Other so, yeah we

801
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: will see a couple other names. TASKS i, MEAN i

802
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: don't even know if we need to Ask collinger because

803
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: your in laws know everything about The israeli, Kid danny Of.

804
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 3: Dia But, john what's your opinion on? Him Because i've

805
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: seen people have him, very very high and, yeah sort

806
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: of all over the board as. Well what do you,

807
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 3: THINK i.

808
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 2: MEAN i do think he'll go. HIGH i wasn't as

809
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: excited about him as some other. PEOPLE i think he's

810
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: shooting is still a. Question and then POSITIONALLY i still

811
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: see him as more four than. THREE i know he

812
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: can do some stuff on the. Ball it reminds me

813
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: a lot Of Dario sarze WHEN i watched him In.

814
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: EUROPE i think he's got a little more bounciness and

815
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: quickness to, him probably than Than sarge did at the same.

816
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: Age but he's probably a worst, shooter and SO i

817
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 2: JUST i just question a little whether he's he's more

818
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: like a role player at the end of the. Day that,

819
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: said there are some PEOPLE i talk to you that

820
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: really like him and and think he does have a

821
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: lot of upside and think he can be like that

822
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: big ball handling wing that everyone's looking. For so because of,

823
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: THAT i, MEAN i think he's definitely gonna go in

824
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: like the top say eight. Players you Hear cleveland a

825
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: lot with. Him you Hear chicago at, four ALTHOUGH i

826
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 2: think that's more speculation based on Like, Urturist carniesievus And.

827
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: Denver they drafted a bunch of international, guys so everyone's, like,

828
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: Well ifda is, International, mike Maybe i'll draft.

829
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: Him but.

830
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: Definitely a lot of talk About avdea To cleveland at.

831
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: FIVE i Have Obi toppin going, there uh in my

832
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: mock but, uh it was, like it's Like toppin Or

833
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 2: avda In cleveland is what everyone's. Hearing.

834
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, TOPPIN i think is a local guy as. Well

835
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 5: he went To, dayton, right he seems to be one

836
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 5: of the guys that would be easily plugged. In but

837
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 5: the concern with him is he's an old man at

838
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 5: what twenty two years old when the guy's passed the.

839
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 5: Prime he also has what The Jerry krause no neck.

840
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 5: Approach right WHEN i look at, him it looks like

841
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 5: he's always, shrugging WHICH i guess is good because you're

842
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 5: not wasting your.

843
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 2: Height, yeah there you. Go, yeah it's a good to. Spin,

844
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: yeah get those shoulders. Higher the Fleck moore. Passes how

845
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: do you.

846
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 5: Feel About Obi toppin? Though is he going to be

847
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 5: a guy who's going to be productive. IMMEDIATELY i think

848
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 5: he's an awesome offensive. Player there are questions about him

849
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 5: at the defensive. END i really like his outside. SHOT

850
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 5: i think he's gonna be able to pick and pop

851
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 5: for threes right. AWAY i think he can rim run and.

852
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 5: DUNK i think he could run the. FLOOR i think

853
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 5: a pretty good passer off the. BLOCK i think he

854
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 5: can posts up. Mismatches there's a lot to like. There, offensively, uh, defensively, yeah,

855
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 5: yeah it's probably not.

856
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: GREAT i mean he's he's undersized for the, five doesn't

857
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: move that well on the on the, perimeter but he.

858
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: Can he can get up off the floor and so

859
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: what what you saw him do sometimes was get beat

860
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: off the drive and then get back in the play

861
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: to block the. SHOT i think he's gonna be okay

862
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: enough there that he'll be able to keep on the

863
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: floor for his. Offense the the fit In cleveland is

864
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: a little wonky because they Have Kevin, Love Larry, Nance

865
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: Andre drummond and Maybe Tristan thompson. Too we'll see if

866
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: he comes. Back so there's just a lot of bigs there.

867
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: ALREADY i think if they traded one of, them it

868
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: would probably be easier to open the floor for for.

869
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 2: Topping and, HONESTLY i MEAN i think they would probably

870
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 2: have to do the same thing WITH. VDA i still

871
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 2: think he's more four than three at the end of the.

872
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: Day so either way, THERE i wonder what's gonna happen

873
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: in That cleveland front court if they if they draft

874
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: either of those.

875
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 3: Guys do you have a favorite, trade like in your

876
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: mind that you could that you'd like to see. HAPPEN

877
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: i guess either day before or on the on draft.

878
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: Night, YEAH i mean there's a couple that are really.

879
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: Interesting you, know let's go through people love. Trade, Uh,

880
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: like what About Wendell carter and the fourth pick To

881
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: Golden state for the second. Pick if you're The bulls

882
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: And LaMelo ball is not the first, pick do you

883
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: move up to to Trade? Carter if if You're Golden,

884
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: state then you can move back to. Four you get

885
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: a big And, Carter but then you can move back

886
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: to four and Take halliburton OR fda one or the.

887
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: Other Golden state's been rumored to like both of, Them

888
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: so that's an interesting one to.

889
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: Me, okay hold, on let's ask The bulls Fan Trey,

890
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: kirby what do you what do you? Think you loving this?

891
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: IDEA i love.

892
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: It, Oh i'm, like Gosh lamello ball.

893
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 5: Lever but, honestly if you tell me a guy six

894
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 5: foot five and he can, Pass i'm one hundred percent.

895
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 5: In i'm like this. Guy at the, worst he's the

896
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 5: Next Sean. Livingston AND i don't think that there's necessarily

897
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 5: A bulls backcourt guy that couldn't be superseded By. LaMelo you,

898
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 5: Know Zach lavine is The DeRozan of The. Bulls the

899
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 5: best they're gonna get from him as a trade piece

900
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 5: somewhere down the. LINE i would be a little hesitant

901
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 5: to give Up, carter but he seems like the kind

902
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 5: of player who's going to be very good for a

903
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 5: very good, team maybe not necessarily a rebuilding, team since

904
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 5: he's such a team.

905
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: Player, YEAH i mean if whatever team he's, on if

906
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: they allow him to actually shoot jump, SHOTS i think

907
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: that would probably help. Too this. Year you, know there's

908
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: a lot Of Golden state deals we can talk. About

909
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: there's there's another TRADE i really, like which is If

910
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: boston turned its fourteenth pick Into Larry. NANCE i think

911
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: he'd really help. THEM i think he could play the

912
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: five for them in playoff. Games he's, switchable he can

913
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: kind of sort of make. Threes he's a pretty effective rim,

914
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: runner just a good team to, vendor really good, passer

915
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: knows how to play, like he just fits. There to,

916
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: me they'd have to cobble together some contracts to pull that.

917
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: Together it would help them a lot If Ennis canner

918
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: opted in before the, draft which we'll see if that

919
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: happens or, not because they sort of need his contract

920
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: to make something like that. Work but, anyway that's the

921
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: one that gets me.

922
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: Excited, yeah that's WHY i saw that one in your.

923
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: Article that's WHY i wanted to ask that. Question that's.

924
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 3: Interesting so do you think The celtics will ultimately do something?

925
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: Here because they have all these first, rounds they're.

926
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: The team THAT i would bet most on doing. Something

927
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: it may not be have quite as many exclamation points

928
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: as the things you know that everyone gets excited talking, about, like,

929
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 2: oh they traded the twenty six pick for two future

930
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: seconds in, cash like you, know like something like, that

931
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: you know that Gets Nate duncan going in the.

932
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: Morning, yeah something like, that but maybe not the casual

933
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: fan for. Sure, yeah so.

934
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: It's gonna be JUST i think what they would like

935
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: to do is package multiple picks into a single higher.

936
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: PAY i think second on their list would be packaging

937
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: picks and bad players for a good, player or packed

938
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: or trading picks this year for future. YEARS i just think,

939
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: it's LIKE i, said the demand for picks in this

940
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: draft just isn't that, high ALTHOUGH i have been getting

941
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: some vibes like the picks they have at twenty six

942
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: and thirty in some ways might have more of a

943
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 2: market because teams know they don't they won't cost as,

944
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: much and team see it as a relatively flat draft talent.

945
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: Wise in other, words the guy you get at ten

946
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: might not be that different from the guy you get at.

947
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: Forty so there could be some motivation for some of

948
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: these teams that don't have a, pick you, know for

949
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: a team like The clippers Or houston or somebody like,

950
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: that to try to jump in at those at those late.

951
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: Spots so Maybe boston will find a market.

952
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 6: There speaking of, that the thirty, PICK i know your

953
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 6: love For Paul. Reid out of To, Paul i'm surprised

954
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 6: he didn't sneak him into your mock draft.

955
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: There, well LIKE i, SAID i was basing this off

956
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: of WHAT i, hearing AND i just HAD i had

957
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: no energy from anywhere that he was going to go

958
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: in the top thirty. Picks so, YEAH i MEAN i

959
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: had him twelfth on my. BOARD i Think i'm a

960
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: Big Paul reid, fan BUT i don't think that's going to.

961
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: HAPPEN i think he probably ends up going i'll say

962
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: forty to forty.

963
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 6: Five it is absolutely incredible how flat the draft is talent. Wise,

964
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 6: then as you, said from when you get into double

965
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 6: digits to almost the second, round you can sort of

966
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 6: pick and choose where guys are.

967
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 2: Going, YEAH i think if you go around the league draft,

968
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: boards there's going to be a lot of variance between

969
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 2: draft boards this year and whereas some other, YEARS i

970
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: think if you went around the, league the top eight

971
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: players would have been pretty chalky on teams draft. Boards

972
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: not the case this.

973
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 6: Year so when That Orlando magic player signed and the

974
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 6: board was behind, him they got the photo of that

975
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 6: board behind. Him usually in years, past The magic would

976
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 6: be just it would just be all big guys on that.

977
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 6: Board but now it'll be a huge, range and that

978
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 6: would be incredible to be able to see everybody's draft

979
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 6: board after the, fact like when it's all, done why

980
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 6: aren't we getting?

981
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: That did you did you guys have one genre or

982
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: was it all digital like it was was It google

983
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: doc or, something or did you actually be writing on.

984
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: Something it changed over time because my first couple of

985
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: years we had an actual we had an actual board

986
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: with like player's name on, magnets and then the last

987
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: few years we had just had a digital and we

988
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: had a giant monitor in the.

989
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 3: Draft there you, go, yeah oh, man.

990
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: The magnets are more. Fun, Though, yeah, somebody like you,

991
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: know one of the one of the staffers walks up,

992
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: there takes the magnet, off and you, know there's there's

993
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: more like there's more ceremonial drama with the magnetic. Board

994
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: so we, gotta we, gotta we got to bring those.

995
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 3: Back how is there a lot of truth to next

996
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: year's draft looking pretty? SPECIAL i keep seeing. THAT i

997
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: don't know how you, know how locked in you are

998
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 3: on that is, one but.

999
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: That is the word on the. Street i've seen one

1000
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: of these guys playing an actual basketball, Game so it's

1001
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: hard for me to really be, like, oh, YEAH i,

1002
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: agree you, know, Right but you, know hopefully college season

1003
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: is supposed to Start november twenty, fifth if they can

1004
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: figure out a way to play, games which they are

1005
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: still seemingly working. On THE acc actually announced the schedule,

1006
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: today so that's exciting. There but you, know we'll we'll

1007
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: get a better idea at that. Point you, know we'll

1008
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: see K cunningham With Oklahoma, State we'll see some of

1009
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: these other players IN ncaa, games and just get a

1010
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: better idea of where the talent level at the top

1011
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: of this draft really.

1012
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 3: Stands, yeah BECAUSE i THINK i saw or heard someone,

1013
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 3: saying like next year's, draft six or seven guys would

1014
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: have been taken number one if they were in like

1015
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: this year's twenty twenty. Draft so there might be, some you,

1016
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: know some some incredible, talent but they always say.

1017
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: THAT i feel, like, yeah a couple of these guys

1018
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: are going to be playing for A G league team,

1019
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: Too so that's, right that's a that's a little twist

1020
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: on it. Too THE nba got tired of having these

1021
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: guys go To. Australia, yeah, yeah here this. Time.

1022
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 6: YEAH i actually saw a clip of one of those guys. Playing,

1023
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 6: uh we'll be on THAT G league team who's got

1024
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 6: hops Like Trey kirby can definitely get those knuckles over the.

1025
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 6: Rim this past week he did a mantras three. Sixty

1026
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 6: was it A jaden A Jaden?

1027
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: Smith was?

1028
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 6: IT i don't. Know he had a, monster not A

1029
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 6: James Smith smith music to.

1030
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: Hoops this guy can do it. All, YEAH i has

1031
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: got a little triple. THREAT i got a little.

1032
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 6: Bow wow on the brain as. Well there's a there's

1033
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 6: a lot happening.

1034
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 3: HERE i wanted to ask, you but one more, guy

1035
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 3: AND i Know i'll butcher his, name BUT i got

1036
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: to get some practice going on here On Yeka. OKONGWU

1037
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 3: i was hoping the name was going to Be Trey

1038
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: jones After i'll screw that one up as.

1039
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: Well door what?

1040
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: What what do you? Know WHAT i? MEAN i see?

1041
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: Him i'll be in linked To charlotte a. Lot, yeah

1042
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 3: he's a great defensive.

1043
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: PLAYER i GUESS i likely echo Kong wu a lot six,'

1044
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: nine maybe a little undersize for, the five but, long

1045
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: arms really, good rebounder great hands, the ball like if

1046
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: he gets, his handle the ball, just sticks, you know

1047
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: like halfway. Decent shooter even though he didn't really play

1048
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: on the perimeter a whole LOT. At usc good post

1049
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: player can score with either hand in THE post usc

1050
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: if YOU watched, usc like they didn't go to him

1051
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: on the block nearly enough in, my opinion good good,

1052
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 2: defensive player good feet can, be switchable, reminds you reminds

1053
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: me a Lot of bam Out of, bio actually kind

1054
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: of the way. He PLAYS and i mean, TO me

1055
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: i think he should go in the, top FIVE and

1056
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: i think he's probably not GOING to I think washington

1057
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: absolutely has their fingers crossed that he gets to them,

1058
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 2: at nine because they need a center and they need

1059
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: people who can, play defense and he checks. Both BOXES

1060
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 2: so i definitely could see a. Fit there charlotte at,

1061
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: Three Maybe like charlotte needs a, center too but they

1062
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: don't need to draft a. Center necessarily there's a lot

1063
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: of free agents they could go after they have, cap

1064
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: ROOM so i could more See show arlotte like if

1065
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: it if It goes Blamello and wiseman. Won two it's

1066
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 2: easier for me To see Charlotte taking edwards three than

1067
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 2: it is for me to see them taking. A, coongo

1068
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: OKAY so i really, like HIM though i think he's

1069
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: a really interesting player that's getting a little overlooked in.

1070
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 3: This draft we're gonna take a quick break in, one

1071
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 3: second our, final break and we got some more questions.

1072
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: After that but one, more GUY because i just thought

1073
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 3: about IT when i looked at your mock DRAFT and i,

1074
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: WAS like i don't even know who. That, was like

1075
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 3: he's felt like he came out. Of nowhere, to, Me

1076
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 3: again i'm a very casual college basketball Fan and i'm

1077
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 3: only following the mock drafts and what you. Guys know

1078
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: but the knixt pick you had at, number eight Them

1079
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 3: Taking tyrese Maxie, From, kentucky yeah talk to me. ABOUT

1080
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 3: him i Honestly like i'd barely seen. That Name Uh So.

1081
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: Tyrese maxie, for me it's it's just a bet On

1082
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: the kentucky connection With. The, knicks Okay With william wesley

1083
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: coming basically, from there even though he wasn't he wasn't

1084
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: technically employed by. THE program i mean, he was, you

1085
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: know He was, kentucky basketball, you know for the last,

1086
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: decade basically and then Assistant Coach kenny payne. As Well

1087
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: uh maxi is a divisive player. Among scouts some people

1088
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: think he's not. That good some people are really high in.

1089
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: His talent there's this, PERCEPTION now, i think especially after

1090
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: what happened in the In, the bubble that you know

1091
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 2: That these kentucky guys a lot of times didn't get

1092
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: to show everything they could Do at kentucky because there

1093
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: was so much. Other, talent uh and then they blossom IN.

1094
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: THE nba i mean we've seen, You Know, devin Booker Bam, Adebayo,

1095
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: Tyler Hero, Jamal murray i'll played great In. THE bubble

1096
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: i think that people kind of overlook the, fact, that,

1097
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: like okay but like people thought the same Thing With

1098
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 2: kevin Knox and young and, you Know Like, malik, monk

1099
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: like it doesn't always work, that way, You know so

1100
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 2: so trying to slow people's role a little bit. On

1101
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: that it's INTERESTING because i think if he doesn't, go

1102
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 2: there he probably goes more like fifteen to. Twenty five

1103
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: oh but uh AND you, I mean i don't think

1104
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 2: it's a sure thing that he goes, there either because

1105
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: it Could Be. Killian HAYES and i do Think the

1106
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 2: knicks are trying to do some trade. Stuff too you

1107
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: hear a lot of different Things About, new york but

1108
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: it just there was enough there to make, me wonder?

1109
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 3: Gotcha interesting, all right let's take one more quick, break

1110
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: here and then again we got some more Questions for

1111
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 3: john as we wrapped.

1112
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 5: This up.

1113
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: What's your favorite name in this? Draft? CLASS john i

1114
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: mean we've Talked about killy and that's being. Pretty good

1115
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 3: is there?

1116
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 6: Another?

1117
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 3: One precious Maybe precire chew is a.

1118
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: Good name that's a. Good name that's a good that's a.

1119
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: GOOD name i was trying to think if there was some,

1120
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: some deep deep cuts that Had, interested uh, YOU know

1121
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: i HATE to I mean j, scrub right if he

1122
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: ends up not, being, good right that'd.

1123
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: Be, Awesome, scrub yeah it will. Be unfortunate. Ev stink,

1124
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: but yeah that's a. Good, name, Okay, good yeah there's

1125
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 3: some pretty. Good ones, let's again we'll wrap this. Up

1126
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 3: here you're a. BUSY man a few. More Questions cole

1127
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: anthony was a name.

1128
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: WE.

1129
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 3: Knew, rj hampton, of course was the name. We knew

1130
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 3: THEY were i think at one time like top. Five, Recruits,

1131
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 3: right yeah they. HAVE slipped i mean they've they've dropped.

1132
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: Pretty significantly why do you think the reps like sort

1133
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 3: of took such a HIT SO. I.

1134
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: Rj hampton i'm not sure he slipped. That, much okay

1135
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 2: he's gonna go between let's say eight, and, twenty okay

1136
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: AND so I think i had him Sixteenth, to portland,

1137
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 2: That's right but he could still end up going to.

1138
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: THE lottery i think he still. Has fans he wasn't

1139
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 2: Great In new zealand. This year it was the team

1140
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 2: itself was like. A mess like there are stories from there.

1141
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: They're whoa but, you know his shots a. Little shaky

1142
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 2: he played mostly as like a high volume score as

1143
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: a high, school PLAYER and i don't think really that's

1144
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: what he can be AS an. Nba player so he's

1145
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 2: got to kind of shape his game in a. Different

1146
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: way but he's. Got tools and then there are people

1147
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 2: who are interested. In, HIM anthony i think probably slipped

1148
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: more with his PLAY. AT unc i think people see

1149
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: like he's not an. Impactful defender he's not a guy

1150
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: who can involve other people. That well he's more just a,

1151
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 2: straight scorer and at that one who kind of really

1152
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: struggled to finish in the painted area even at the.

1153
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: College level has a. Strong body he's a pretty good

1154
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 2: outside shooter and can. Create shots AND so i think

1155
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: people see more like a third guard in, Him NOW

1156
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: so i do think he's going to go in the,

1157
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: first ROUND but i think the perception is if you

1158
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: look at the point guard hierarchy in, this, draft Right

1159
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: Like LaMelo ball's way at. The, Top, obviously halliburton if

1160
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: you think he's a, point guard, is next and then

1161
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: you Get Into heillian Hayes And kira lewis or like the,

1162
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 2: next tier and then. AFTER that I Think tyrell terry

1163
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: is kind Of jumped anthony on most people's boards as the.

1164
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: Next GUY so I think anthony still gets in the

1165
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 2: first round at the end of. The day but people

1166
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: were talking to him about him top five in the

1167
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: beginning of the year and there's no chance of that happening.

1168
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: At, all yeah, For, SURE okay i didn't. Mistaken that

1169
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 3: that's what it, felt like. For sure maybe that's the

1170
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: part Like He's greig, anthony's, son right you know there's

1171
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 3: a link TO an nba is?

1172
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: His, son, yeah YEAH but i mean it's not even. Unusual, anymore,

1173
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 2: like no there's a lot of, these, Guys.

1174
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: Now yeah which player do you think is most likely

1175
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 3: to contribute to a championship team because of where they

1176
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: maybe get drafted here on to a, good team, of

1177
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 3: course a team like, in contention.

1178
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: Clearly the Guy the grizzlies take at forty. Will contribute

1179
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 2: that's a.

1180
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 3: Fantastic answer who do? YOU got, I mean i know

1181
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 3: you didn't do the second round when it came. To

1182
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 3: this do you have any guesses Who the grizzlies?

1183
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 2: Are, TAKING no, I don't. I don't the second round

1184
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: is such. A crapshoot all the picks move, all around

1185
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: and you know it's only fifty to fifty that they

1186
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 2: are they are actually end up picking, a, forty right

1187
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some trader or another where they, move up,

1188
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: move down. Move out there's it's it's like it's like

1189
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: electrons in the, second round like they're just bouncing all over.

1190
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: The picks, but no in terms of who could contribute

1191
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: to a championship team sort of like, right, NOW yeah

1192
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 2: i Would Say harry's halburton would definitely be. A guy

1193
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: I Think desmond baine is a guy late in the

1194
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: draft that teams look at like. CAN contribute I Think

1195
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: sadiq bay is another guy like that who like shows

1196
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: the ability to defend and switches but also can make

1197
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: open threes and like maybe not like crazy high upside with,

1198
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: those guys but those are definitely players that teams that

1199
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: are in closer to a win now mode or are

1200
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 2: looking at and, saying, like okay we can actually we

1201
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: can actually get a piece here that is part of

1202
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: our top nine in a.

1203
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 3: Playoff, series sure, all right those are some names. To

1204
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: watch task tray any other Questions for john here before, We.

1205
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: Go well one guy that we don't think will be

1206
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: contributing to a. Championship team we touched on. Him Earlier.

1207
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 5: Alekchi pokashevsky he like, we said he's.

1208
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: Very tall you list him.

1209
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 5: As a quote power, forward because like, we're saying this

1210
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 5: guy is he weighs less than skeets despite being, you

1211
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 5: know over seven. Feet tall you have him slotted For,

1212
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 5: the mavericks which means that to me a.

1213
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: Little bit they're they're ready.

1214
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 5: To wait, you know They've, got luka They've Got chris,

1215
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 5: STAPs obviously but they're probably not in the championship mixed.

1216
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 5: Right away they're playing a little bit longer of. A

1217
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 5: game is this guy gonna be The? Next giannis is

1218
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 5: he going to be The Next? Jonathan bender The Next.

1219
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 5: Nikolas kitavilli there's a lot of ranges when you see a,

1220
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 5: very tall perimeter oriented player who doesn't have a lot

1221
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 5: of muscle on their.

1222
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: Frame yet so what do you feel about?

1223
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: This guy he's, Really interesting like he's, Really skilled like

1224
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: you watch him grab and go, with rebounds pull up

1225
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: from the three, point line make one handed passes off,

1226
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 2: the dribble like there are a lot of seven footers

1227
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: in the league right now who can't do the stuff he. Does,

1228
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: now conversely he can't do the stuff that a lot

1229
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: of seven footers in the, League can like he has

1230
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: no lower body strength, at all so he just like

1231
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: anytime he has to turn against any kind of any

1232
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: kind of muscle or lean or forum, or anything he's just,

1233
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: like wow he's just flung backwards and so gets gets

1234
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: thrown off bounds. Pretty easily i'm not sure his motor

1235
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: is always revn super hot in some of, these games

1236
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: but it's so hard to tell because the level of

1237
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: competition that he's. Playing AGAINST so i do think he's

1238
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: a tough eval, For TEAMS and i think it's just

1239
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: you have to go into this excepting that there is

1240
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: a huge range of outcomes and you have to, be

1241
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: okay if he's a Total bus.

1242
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 5: Is he the kind of player in a normal draft

1243
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 5: year when you're able to get him in for workouts

1244
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 5: and you're seeing him time and, time again would he

1245
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 5: be flying up the draft boards if we're seeing a

1246
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 5: young guy handling like us, Out, THERE well.

1247
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: I mean, probably not because usually you can't get these

1248
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: guys in for workouts that are Playing for european teams

1249
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: at the same time and are under contract. To him

1250
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: it's very it's. Very, Tough Sure, Uh so i'm not

1251
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: sure this situation would actually be. MUCH different, i mean

1252
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: teams would be trying to sneak into their practices and

1253
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: see him. And whatnot but that's easier with some teams than.

1254
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 2: With Others Like, danny avdya every team got to go

1255
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: in and see him practice. Or whatever like he's there's

1256
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: like no mystery there at all from, That perspective but

1257
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 2: this guy's is definitely a little more. Of that and

1258
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 2: then there's a lot of cat and mouse games going,

1259
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 2: on already a lot of intrigue about whether he has

1260
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: a promise and he shut down his workouts and he

1261
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,959
Speaker 2: didn't go to, the combine and like there's there's there's

1262
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: definitely some cloak and dagger stuff.

1263
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 6: Going on exciting not to give you some some intel extremely, Late,

1264
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 6: here john bit as, You Said, danny ida everybody knew.

1265
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 6: ABOUT him i knew about him when he was at

1266
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 6: a Bakery. IN marietta i know you're A local. ATLANTA

1267
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 6: guy i got a text from my in laws who

1268
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 6: Saw on facebook that he took a photo With his

1269
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 6: israeli Crew, in GEORGIA and i was, JUST wondering, i

1270
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 6: mean are they working? Him out are they talking? To

1271
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 6: him does he?

1272
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: Like, BREAD well i know he actually worked Out For golden,

1273
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: STATE here i want, to.

1274
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 6: Say, RIGHT yeah I think i think hit His little fulkroum, was,

1275
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 6: HERE right i think he's set. Up, shop, yeah.

1276
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: Exactly, Exactly, yeah so which, is, smart right because it probably,

1277
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: means he, you know Got those.

1278
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 3: Delta, miles yeah say close to, the airport now you're

1279
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 3: there at. Fifteen minutes stroll right, through nowadays, yeah yeah zip. Around,

1280
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Speaker 3: everywhere okay it's a.

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Speaker 2: GOOD call i just hope he Visited The. Big. Chicken hope,

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Speaker 2: so well let's end, With.

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Speaker 3: This John come, November eighteenth, draft night fill in. The

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Speaker 3: blank the biggest winner from the TWENTY twenty nba draft.

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Speaker 3: Is blank you can go play. Your team what do,

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Speaker 3: you think, you know look into your, crystal ball?

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Speaker 2: Biggest, Winner, yeah like what will be.

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Speaker 3: The big headline coming out Of that november eighteenth?

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Speaker 1: Draft night.

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Speaker 2: Ready for? Free agency who's ready to sign?

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Speaker 5: Some?

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Speaker 2: Players yeah the biggest story might be the contract that

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Speaker 2: gets dumped to give. Somebody countingroom, ah.

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Speaker 3: Okay okay we'll. Take That that's that's a nice way

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Speaker 3: to end it. Right There john holdrey very excited about

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Speaker 3: the TWENTY Twenty. NBA draft, I mean i'm sure a

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Speaker 3: lot of these front offices are, they're. DONE right i

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Speaker 3: mean they've been talking about these same guys over, and

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Speaker 3: over Oh.

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Speaker 2: Since, MARCH yeah i mean every one of these front

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Speaker 2: officer is ready to hold the draft On like april, twenty.

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Speaker 2: Seventh right is all they did when the league shut

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Speaker 2: down is do all their. Draft HOMEWORK so i think

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be almost a relief when this finally gets

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Speaker 2: done and then us.

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Speaker 3: As well and we're not even the biggest draft experts by.

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Speaker 3: DoD guys go Check out JOHN hollanderds Nba. Mock draft

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Speaker 3: it's up On the. Athletic there It is jady throwing

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Speaker 3: it up for the stream teamers right now Talking, About

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Speaker 3: LaMelo james wiseman and all of the. Top, picks john

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for. Joining it we really, appreciate.

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Speaker 2: It, all right thanks for having. Me guys, All right,

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Speaker 2: clipper bros you heard it.

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Speaker 1: Here first have a, great time. Turn up love.

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Speaker 5: You.

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Speaker 1: Guys awesome you could stay.

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Speaker 2: Every Day and danie happy. Every minute it's been so

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Speaker 2: long that your fana it's.

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Speaker 6: Happening already it's Gonna be grevy