1 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: See. 2 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: I get tired of college football running scared from the NFL. 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: But I can't do anything about that. Come out in 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: the Commissioner of the sport. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: Yet. 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: However, when we tell the NFL we need a little 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: time on Thursday night and let's say no, Chiefs Ravens 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: will go off the schedule, Well what do we do? 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: We flex in a way that only we could update 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: from the National Weather Service Chiefs Ravens in a weather delay. 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: Hate it for you, guys. We're live as live can be. 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: It's Thursday night, September, fifth year of our Lower twenty 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: twenty four, jam packed Hiatape stunning downtown Nashville, Tennessee, and 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: proudly Decide presented by Academy Sports and Outdoors. We nailed 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: just about every upset in the country last week. So 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: paper pop early here, Upset Alert Meter. It's speaking again 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: for a few of you. I will talk about that. 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: I got a problem happening down in Tallahassee. And it's 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: not the and two start to FSU season. It's something 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: else that should never be an issue for FSU, but 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: it is. We've got the Billy Napier stuff as well, 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna make a stop in the Sunshine State. Tonight. 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: Kublic is in an airport somewhere and allegedly, I mean 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: my phone's going off as we speak. Allegedly, we will 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: get him on the show in like thirty minutes because 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: I have a few bones to pick with him. We'll see. 27 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: It's up to the FAA at this point if Kublic 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: joins the show. If not, I'll probably just look at 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: the live chat for a little while. But we do 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: have Jampack Show tonight. Morton, Illinois is tuned in El Paso, Texas, Meridianville, Alabama, Omaha, Nebraska. 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: This time tomorrow night, I won't be in ann Arbor. 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: I'll be in Detroit, but it's not a long drive, 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: but I will be in a hotel room somewhere. I 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: will be sending out on Twitter and Instagram an alert 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: for you that Friday Night Lines is imminent. It'll be 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: you know, sometime later tomorrow night. You gotta be following 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: on Instagram live. That's the only platform I do that on. 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: I've got my reasons. It's still Late Kick Josh over 39 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: there by the way, name name change pending. It's still 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: Late Kick Josh, and make sure you're following on Instagram 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: because that is a very, very fun thing we do 42 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: on Friday nights. All right, let us dive into the show. 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: Now this time last week, we've had like nine or 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: ten thousand new subs to the channel this week, so 45 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: a lot of you may not have watched the show 46 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: this time last week. And on every Thursday show, I 47 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: lead it with upset alerts, but I don't typically do. Hey, 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: I think so and so is gonna win outright, although 49 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: last week we did. I do my overall concern level. 50 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: So for example, like, we're gonna lead with n C 51 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: State Tennessee. In a second, how concerned am I about Tennessee? 52 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: So Colin, here's a good endpoint for you upset alert meter. 53 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: How concerned am I about some of these favorites in 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: C State place Tennessee? This is in Charlotte, so it's 55 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 2: a neutral site game. I expect Tennessee to be well 56 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: represented here. According to our sources inside the secondary ticket 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: market world, Tennessee about a nine and a half point 58 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: favorite right now at FanDuel. All right, I am thinking 59 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: to myself as I'm walking around Centennial Park today in Nashville, 60 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: getting a mild sunburn in the process, I'm thinking, I 61 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: love Tennessee this week. I me, that's my chest. I'm paton. 62 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: I love Tennessee this week. But how would it go 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: wrong if it went wrong? How concerned am I? Well, 64 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: I'm about a six on the concern meter because I 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: walked around that park today and I worked up a 66 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: scenario in my head where NC State doesn't just cover 67 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 2: NC State wins outright. I've got a ton of respect 68 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: for Tony Gibson. I've got a ton of respect for 69 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: the NC State defensive support staff. We've got them really, 70 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: really highly graded. I talked to you about that last week. 71 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: I talked to you about that Tuesday night. Josh Heipel 72 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: is one of the top five o seas in the country. 73 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: Tony Gibson's way up there on the defensive side. These 74 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: two support staffs going against each other. It's big league stuff. 75 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: And I want you to think about where Niko i 76 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: Amliava falls in all this. So he's not becoming a star. 77 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: To me, he's a star right now, but he's still young, 78 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: he's still green. He hasn't started a lot of games. Times. 79 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: You and I watch a guy go off, and we 80 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: think in highlight terms, and we think this guy looks invincible, 81 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: but that's not always what opposing defensive coaches see on film. 82 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: So I view this NC State defensive staff as about 83 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: as equipped as any staff they're going to face outside 84 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: of like Georgia, a little bit down the road of 85 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: being able to expose potential flaws in Nico's game. Now, 86 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: maybe that they're wrong and they think they've got something 87 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: and it's not there. But what do you do against 88 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: young guys, the young quarterbacks out there, the ones who 89 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: are lighting up the stat sheet. One of the first 90 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: things you've got to find out about these dudes is 91 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: how well do they stand up against pressure? And so 92 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: n C State fairly aggressive defensively anyway, just their overall 93 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: profile is that I really expect them to be aggressive. Now, 94 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 2: the trade off there, and the reason everyone doesn't do 95 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: it every down is cause you can get burned doing that. 96 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: But I think NC State has to do that. It's 97 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: a massive moment for the program too. It is a 98 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: massive moment. This is a game for Tennessee, it's the 99 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: game for m C State. So if you get him 100 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: rattled early and that Tennessee run game is not just 101 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: boom boom boom. The way Josh Hypel wants it to. 102 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: Then you start asking, well, okay, at that point we 103 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: start to ask what's the weakness over on Tennessee side 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: of things? And perceptionally it's the secondary which coincides and 105 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: it meshes very well with the moves that NC State 106 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: made in the portal and probably the overall strength of 107 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: that offense and a veteran quarterback and Grayson mccaulthrowing to him. 108 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: That's the wide receiver corps. If they can start to 109 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: tilt the game in their favor, they wouldn't be totally 110 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: uncomfortable in a track meet. But if they can tilt 111 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: the game in their favor, there is a world regret it, 112 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: though I might, there is a world where NC State 113 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: wins this game. Out right, there's a reason this number 114 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: is not seventeen or eighteen. It's nine and a half. 115 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: Now it's gone up this week. I like Tennessee, but 116 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 2: I've got a six on the concern meter for upset 117 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: moving along a game. I'll be at yes, Colin, the 118 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: the whole New Saturday Tour will be taking ourselves up 119 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: to ann Arbor, as is everyone else this weekend. There's 120 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: the beautiful graphic we are proudly fueled on the road 121 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: by our friends at quick Trip. Texas is still a 122 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: seven and a half point favorite in this game. Over 123 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: at FanDuel. You notice how many seven and a half 124 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: there are floating out there? Producer Jesse and I were 125 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: looking at this earlier today. So Tennessee was a seven 126 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: and a half favorite. They've bumped up to nine and 127 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: a half. But Texas over Michigan seven and a half. 128 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna do Oklahoma State Arkansas a little bit later, 129 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State seven and a half. Jesse, what are the 130 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: other two we looked at? 131 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 132 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: There are a couple of other seven and a half so 133 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 2: out there, So there are a lot of these names, 134 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: or a lot of these Nebraska, Colorado seven and a half, 135 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: so a lot of these seven and the hook's just 136 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: kind of floating out there. Can sense us across the market, 137 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: and I know that your instinct is telling you that 138 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: number looks low, but history is saying if it looks 139 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: too low, if it looks too good to be true, 140 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: you know the rest there is this too good to 141 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: be true. I cannot think off the top of my 142 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: head of a single person I've heard outside Michigan fandom 143 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: pick Michigan to win this game this week. I've heard 144 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: very few people pick them to cover. That includes me. 145 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: I took Texas to win. I took Texas to cover. 146 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: I think Texas matches up very well with Michigan. I 147 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: think Michigan's going to struggle to score, which is not surprising, 148 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: but that means they just turn it into a fist fight. 149 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: But where I differ from a lot of folks is 150 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: I think Texas ought to be well equipped to win 151 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: that way as well. I think Texas has built themselves 152 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: to do that. You get enamored with the flash and 153 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: the sizzle, and there should be a whole lot of 154 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: confidence in that outfit that they can win a physical game. 155 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: But if they didn't, how would it happen? And what 156 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: is my concern level here? My concern level is only 157 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: a five. I feel good about Texas, but if Texas 158 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: can't run the ball well, and Michigan's been known to 159 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: do that, then the Texas offense has to rely on 160 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: Quinn viewers and a really deep stable of pass catchers. 161 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: And the thing about that is I've stood on the 162 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: sideline three years in a row and watched Ohio State 163 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: try the same thing against this Michigan defense, and it's 164 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: failed three times in a row. And that in some 165 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: cases unstoppable looking offense got stopped three years in a row. 166 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: So there's a world where Michigan does that. Here's the difference. 167 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: Those Michigan teams were more offensively efficient then I think 168 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: this Michigan team will be, which is where my concern 169 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: level goes down. I could certainly see Texas getting their 170 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: nose bloody. I could see Texas maybe disappointing me a 171 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: little bit and not being able to match the physicality. 172 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: What I have trouble seeing is Michigan scoring enough to 173 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: make it matter when they give themselves the opportunity. If 174 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm wrong there, I'm wrong there. But that's why my 175 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: concern level is a little bit lower. And like I said, 176 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: the most fascinating thing to me in this game is 177 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: Number one, can Michigan score offensively defensive scores? You can't predict. 178 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: They're really good at it, but no one has a 179 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: model that predicts that. But the second part is if 180 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: it's seven to three midway through the second quarter, you 181 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: know Michigan has gotten the game out into the deeper water. 182 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: Where they want it, so then can they score enough? 183 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: But the other thing is, does Texas look uncomfortable there? 184 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,479 Speaker 2: The implied total in this game Texas by about a touchdown, 185 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 2: and the total in the low forties is like a 186 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: twenty five to seventeen final. That's the implied total from 187 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: the odds makers, which means if this thing's played in 188 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: the upper team's low twenties, Michigan feels okay. I just 189 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: think Texas should as well. Maybe I'm wrong there. Kansas 190 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: State is on the road. Do you know this if 191 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: you're a Wildcat fan, do you know where your team 192 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: is a couple of nights from now. Well, it's an 193 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 2: early game, but they're at two lane. Kansas State's a 194 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: nine and a half point favorite FanDuel right now at 195 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: twu lane. It's a noon kickoff Eastern time, so it's 196 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: eleven am local time kick there in New Orleans. Kansas 197 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: State did lose three games on the road last year. 198 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say against better competition, but Tulane is not 199 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: a bad team. Tulane has been one of the best 200 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: G five outfits for a while while, and they got 201 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 2: John summerl from Troy. Now you may not know who 202 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: summer All is. Right now, you will all due respect 203 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: to Tulane because he'll be coaching a major power for 204 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: a program in the very near future. If you want 205 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: to buy stock in one of these guys, John Somerral 206 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: is the guy. There is a big points per game 207 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: differential gap for Kansas State in home games versus road games. 208 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: It's always harder to play in college football on the road, 209 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: so a lot of teams have that in common. It 210 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: may be just a tick more glaring for Kansas State 211 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: and a lot of that situational too. Sometimes it just 212 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: so happens that you play better teams on the road 213 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: because this is just over a couple of years stretch. 214 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: Tulane is good enough talent wise to hang here. They are. 215 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: This coaching staff's very good. It's a very underrated coaching 216 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: staff because no one knows anything about him. These G 217 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: five coaches who are ascending. Their profile is ascending. They 218 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: always circle these moments because they know they don't get 219 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: a lot of them, and it's always fair or not 220 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: the games they're judged on, and they're like inferior year 221 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: from a talent profile standpoint, So they got to punch 222 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: above their weight. But Tulane has a two day rest 223 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: advantage here as well. Doesn't matter as much early in 224 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: the season, but we do pay attention to it. My 225 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: concern level here is a six. I respect that team 226 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: that much. My concern level is a six for Kansas State, 227 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: favored by nine and a half. Now the next game, 228 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: we have placed money on app State at Clemson. This 229 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: line has come down since we bet it. We got 230 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: it at app State plus seventeen and a half. They 231 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: are now a seventeen point dog on the road at Clemson. 232 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: Now listen, I'm not calling for the outright, So my 233 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: concern level, albeit a four, is not as high as 234 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: some of these other games. Clemson's favored for a reason. 235 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: It's a night game there. It's what we would call 236 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: a get right game. But I'm terrified to say that 237 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: after what Florida State had happened to him the other night. 238 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: So if this were to be a really close game 239 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, it would just be because Clemson's 240 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: offense has done more of the same, and that is 241 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: be really really mediocre at best. Now, Kay Klebnick been 242 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: a lot better quarterback at home than on the road. 243 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: A lot of college quarterbacks have that set about him again. 244 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: Like I said with Kansas State, it's just a little 245 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: bit more glaring with the Clemson quarterback. 246 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: Here. 247 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 2: Low scoring game, if we get one, provides a ton 248 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: of variants. That means every possession matters more. It means 249 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: every turnover gets magnified. Joey Aguilar is about a three 250 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: hundred yard per game passer for app State. Look, there 251 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: is a world where we watch this game and we 252 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: end up saying I think app State had the better quarterback. 253 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: Klubnick's just been a disappointment. The Clemson offense for a 254 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: while now has been a disappointment. And if it happens again, 255 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: app State can hang with them. Beating them would be 256 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: a tall task, but they can hang with them. This 257 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 2: is the same quarterback that I sat right there in 258 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: Austin International Airport last year and watched beat Texas A 259 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: and M. It's the same one. That's a lot of 260 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: these pieces on this app State team went to Kyle 261 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: Field last year. And you may say, well, big deal. 262 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: I mean that was Jimbo on his way out. That 263 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: was a Texas and Okay, if you think twenty twenty 264 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: four Clemsons better than twenty twenty three A and m 265 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: okay I do too. That's great for Broadstrokes' purposes. There 266 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: is a big game profile about this app State program, 267 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: not because of the Michigan win fifteen decades ago, but 268 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: because there are players on this team that have gone 269 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: on the road and drawn blood from a major Power 270 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: five opponent. Sometimes when you get that in your DNA, 271 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: it doesn't it doesn't really leave, and you're more comfortable 272 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: in the moment. So my concern levels are four, but 273 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: I think it bears close watching and we love app 274 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: State plus the points. Now the last one we have 275 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 2: not talked about all week, but I will hit right now. 276 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: Kansas is thought to be one of the contenders in 277 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: the Big twelve, which they are. They're on the road 278 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: at Illinois. Haven't heard anyone, maybe short of Tom Fournellie 279 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: talk about this game all week, and I just assume 280 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: fournelli did. Kansas is favored by five and a half 281 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: at FanDuel right now. My concern level is a seven. 282 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: I think Illinois can pull this off. I think we 283 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: may have been a year TiO early on Illinois. It 284 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: was kind of trendy to buy into them last year, 285 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: and I think a lot of Folks may have been 286 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: just a year or too early. Luke Altmeer in his 287 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: last four games seventy percent completion guy eleven to two 288 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: touchdown to interception ratio. Illinois defense last week, albeit against 289 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: pretty inferior competition, forced either a three and out or 290 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: a turnover on every possession in the first half. And 291 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: it is a brand new year with a lot of 292 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: new pieces for Kansas. There is a very distinct possibility 293 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: that Kansas is on its way to becoming For all 294 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: we know, a Big Ten champion are a Big twelve 295 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: championship contender. But in that world, there exists a scenario 296 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: where if they are not yet what they will become 297 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: because it's college football, because this is a developmental program 298 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: and therefore it's not just blindly reloading like it would 299 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: be at Georgia or Ohio State or. 300 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: What have you. 301 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: So my concern level is a seven here. I think 302 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: there is a very very real possibility that Illinois is 303 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: in this thing at the end, which is implied in 304 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: the point spread. I think they can win the thing 305 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: out right. So those are some of the upset alert 306 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: concern meters. I have Jesse. Every game that we covered 307 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: in that segment last week, the underdog either covered or 308 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: won outright. Correct? Correct? Okay, so we did six of 309 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: them last week. We just did five of them. Let's 310 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: see how that turns out. Academy Sports and Outdoors, point blank, 311 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: you need to stop there. If you're going tailgating this weekend, 312 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: you need to stop there. If you need a baseball 313 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: bat for the little one who's about to take his 314 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: first swings and t ball, you need to go there. 315 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: I can't guarantee you they have Halloween decorations, but it 316 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me, but fall sports, back to school stuff. 317 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: The weather's about to change. Do you know that it 318 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: was in the mid eighties here today. I have it 319 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: on good authority. It was in the upper seventies in 320 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: ann Arbor today. It's going to be in like the 321 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: mid fifties for the game this Saturday, it's going to 322 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: be in the forties in the morning when Uncle Dennis 323 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: died and I have to go out, they're in the 324 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: Big House for our live hits in the morning. Cold 325 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: is what we would call that where I'm from. Cold, 326 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: which means I gotta go. Like in real terms, I 327 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: have to go to Academy at some point tomorrow and 328 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: gear up as I usually do for a fall. I 329 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: just didn't want to do that in early September. But 330 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: that's what happens when you head up to Big ten country. 331 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: Does this qualify, by the way, as a Southern team 332 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: going to playing cold weather, does it qualify the mid fifties? 333 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: Does that call it? No, it doesn't qualify. I just 334 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: wanted to make you laugh. Here's what qualifies Academy Sports 335 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: and Outdoors. Whatever you need tailgating, back to school, back 336 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: to sports Academy dot com. If you can't get there 337 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: in person, they make the show free and we eternally 338 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: appreciate them for that. For the second year in a row, 339 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: I had something copied and pasted to put in the 340 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: live chat, and I whiffed on it. Academy Sports will 341 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: not whiff on you. We appreciate them, always have, always will. Okay, 342 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: I need to type something right quick, and it looks 343 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: like this subscribe. So the other day I told you guys, 344 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: a lot of you think you're subscribed, and you're not. 345 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: I got flooded. My inbox got flooded, and a lot 346 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: of you said, you've been watching for years and you're 347 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: ashamed to admit you found out you weren't subscribed. I 348 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: told you, I told you I'd think big techs out 349 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: to get us. So don't let big tech win. Just 350 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: check and make sure you subscribe. It's free, doesn't cost anything. 351 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 2: It just helps us. So the streets have been talking 352 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: in college football, and I have put my ear to 353 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: the streets, and the streets have been saying something like this, 354 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: the Big ten may have caught the SEC. The Big 355 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: ten may be better than the SEC this year. And 356 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: I know why the streets are saying such things because 357 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: I watched the same thing you guys did. I watched 358 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: USC mildly upset LSU the other night. Great game, by 359 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: the way, it was a game so good. I texted Colin. 360 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: I said, I know we're not in the studio. I 361 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: know it's late Sunday night. I'm just gonna throw on 362 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: a random orange shirt and film about a ten minute 363 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: reaction video. Can you upload it? Can you make me 364 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: a thumbnail? Yes? And he got it up Unity. Great game, 365 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: and so that makes you wonder LSU SEC USC Big 366 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 2: ten as of five minutes ago. And then you watch 367 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: Penn State against West Virginia and Penn State and Drew 368 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: Aller all of a sudden looked better than many expected 369 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: them to look, not necessarily the JP pole, but many 370 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: did not have Penn state as high as the JP pole. 371 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: So then we can't just stop there. We got to continue, right, 372 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: We got to irresponsibly just train headlong down this path 373 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: of overreaction. And I encourage that. And that is is 374 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: the Big Ten better than the SEC? Now? I was 375 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: willing to not talk about this tonight, but enough of 376 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: you asked about it, enough of you flat out set it, 377 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: just defiantly said you believe this that I said, well, 378 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: I don't believe it yet, So I will put my 379 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: numbers where my mouth is. How do you measure conference strength? 380 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: The answer is not bowl results. The answer is not 381 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: head to head. That is not how you measure conference 382 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 2: strength because it is not equally seeded. There is no 383 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: world where it's perfectly measured, because there is no world 384 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: where I take the top ten teams in the SEC 385 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: and the top ten teams in the Big Ten and 386 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: have number one play number one and two verses two 387 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: and three versus three and see what the head to 388 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: have result is. That would be a great opening weekend 389 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: of college football and when I'm commissioner, I may push 390 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 2: for it, but we don't have that. The best I 391 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 2: can do for you is I can tell you I 392 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: ran through the model the ten teams. I went over 393 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: to FanDuel and I saw which teams in order they 394 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: had to win the national title, and we took that 395 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: as their implied power ratings in the conferences. So we 396 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: stacked the SEC number one through ten and the Big 397 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: Ten number one through ten. And I'm going to tell 398 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 2: you right now, so if we stack these conferences up, 399 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 2: if we stacked the SEC and the Big Ten up 400 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: right now, I ran every one of these matchups through 401 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: the model. I'm going to tell you what our numbers 402 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: would say. But then I'm going to tell you what 403 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: straight up FanDuel sportsbook would say about these games too. 404 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: Georgia versus Ohio State Georgia minus four and a half TECH. 405 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: This would be about a three point favorite against Oregon, 406 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: BAMA field goal favored against Penn State, got Ole, miss 407 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: minus four against Michigan, Tennessee minus one against the USC. 408 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: The model is really high on USC LSU about a 409 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: field goal over Iowa, Missouri by a touchdown over Wisconsin, 410 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 2: A and M minus nine against Washington, Oklahoma minus ten 411 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: and a half against Maryland, and Auburn minus five and 412 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: a half against Rutgers. The moral of the story there is, 413 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: in all ten equally seeded matchups, the model would favor 414 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: the SEC team, which of course just draws cries of 415 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 2: SEC bias and SEC favoritism, because that's certainly what we're 416 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: trying to do with this thing. We're not trying to 417 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 2: make money betting on this stuff. We're just trying to 418 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: favor a conference. Makes all the sense in the world anyway. 419 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: Since I know that logic does not enter this equation much, 420 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: I hit up the people who actually do put numbers 421 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: up that the market can bet on. We hit our 422 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 2: partners up at FanDuel, and as part of our partnership, 423 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: I just get to ask them any question or any 424 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: hypothetical at any time. So I gave them these ten matchups, 425 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: and I asked our folks over at FanDuel, give me 426 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: the hypothetical number on every one of these games, and friends, 427 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: I have now had director Colin put up a new 428 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: graphic and he has highlighted everywhere that FanDuel disagrees with 429 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: our model, and you'll notice nothing changed on the screen 430 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: because FanDuel sportsbook in these ten hypothetical matchups would also 431 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 2: either favor the SEC or would have a pick them. 432 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: There was one game Texas versus Oregon, according to FanDuel 433 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: on a neutral site would be a Pickham game. Right now, 434 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: every other game, at all nine of them, they would 435 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: favor the SEC team. This doesn't mean anything because the 436 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: games didn't actually happen. All I'm trying to illustrate for 437 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: you is the Big Ten's a very solid conference, very 438 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: solid clearly the number two conference in the country. Haven't 439 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 2: quite surpassed the SEC yet at the top, at the middle, 440 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: or at the bottom. But you will notice something, as 441 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: Colin showed you on that graphic. You'll notice once you 442 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: got to the bottom, it wasn't like SEC team minus 443 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: two touchdowns or more. Even with Auburn Rutgers, the spread 444 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: was inside a touchdown, Which means the depth of the 445 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 2: Big Ten is probably improving pretty quickly, because I think 446 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: the SEC is still a deep conference. So I think 447 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 2: the depth of the Big Ten there's a lot to 448 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: be said about that. That's not the story, though, I 449 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: don't think that's even the argument here. The argument to me, 450 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: especially early in the season is not which conference is better. 451 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: You could talk all day about which conference is better. 452 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: You know what I care more about is I think 453 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: there's this switch happening before our eyes early in twenty 454 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: twenty four, and that is the perceptions of the conferences 455 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: are shifting. Think back in July. If you looked at 456 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: the SEC back in July, coming out of media days, 457 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 2: you probably would have said, I think Georgia is the favorite, 458 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: but boy, they're like half a dozen teams that could 459 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: really figure prominently into this conference championship picture. And maybe, 460 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: depending on how much you believe in LSU or Missouri, 461 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 2: you may go even seven deep or eight deep. And 462 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: if Georgia is off their a game a little bit, 463 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: then it's really game on and anyone could win this 464 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 2: thing with the big ten. What did you say? You 465 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: probably said, Ohio State's gonna win it, and if they don't, 466 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: Organ's gonna win. And that was the long and short 467 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: of it. No one gave Penn State a second look. 468 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: Most people didn't give Michigan a second look. All right, 469 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: So now we're one week, two weeks for some into 470 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: the season, and Georgia has about a four point gap 471 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: in our model against the number two team in the country. 472 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,239 Speaker 2: So Georgia, at least early on, may be elevating a 473 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: little bit. And maybe we get into a world where 474 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 2: they are just the preemptive favorite to win the SEC, 475 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: and maybe it's still competitive beneath them, but Georgia is 476 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: the clear favorite. Meanwhile, in the Big Ten, if Ohio 477 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: State's got trouble on their offensive line, if Oregon, now 478 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: I think they'll rebound this weekend. But if they if 479 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 2: Oregon's got trouble, if they can't run the ball, they 480 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: got trouble on their offensive line. And Penn State stock 481 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: is way up offensively, and USC stock is way up defensively, 482 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: and we don't know about Michigan, but we'll see them 483 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: this weekend. Then you could have, instead of in the SEC, 484 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: you may have a three or four way dance for 485 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 2: the Big Ten championship or maybe deeper. And no one 486 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 2: expected that. So yeah, we can talk about which conference 487 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 2: is better, whatever that means. I care about which one 488 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: is more interesting, and I care about which one's harder 489 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: to figure out. And it's still too early, but we 490 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: could find ourselves by Halloween saying wow, the Big Ten, 491 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 2: I have no clue the SEC's kind of sorting itself out, 492 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: because that'll be after George's gone to Alabama and after 493 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: George has gone to Texas, so we'll know by then 494 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: what George is made of, or they will have had 495 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: a chance to validate what they already know they're made of. 496 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: So that's where I stand on the whole conference debate. Now, Jesse, 497 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm about to talk about something. You let me know 498 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: in my ear if we've heard from Comrade Kublick out 499 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 2: there and where is he? Is he in Dallas? He's 500 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: in Dallas. He's okay, all right, so we hear positive 501 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: things in the ear right now about Cublic, I'm concerned 502 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: about our little angel. We'll see. Our friends at Quick 503 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: Trip are fueling us. They should be fueling you if 504 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 2: they're not already, download the app. It's free and it 505 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: helps you get free stuff. We have been just throwing 506 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: out free gas cards and I'm going to continue to 507 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: do that because they've given me a sizeable giveaway budget, 508 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: which was part of our agreement with them, and it's 509 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: been wonderful. You know how powerful it makes you feel 510 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: when anyone does anything you like. You guys show up 511 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: at college game Day this weekend, and hold up a 512 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 2: payate State sign behind the cameras, or big Noon and 513 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: just free gas on the way, free Chalice, the Supremacy 514 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: on the way. But they are fueling the whole New 515 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: Saturday tour. We appreciate them so much. This was a 516 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: partnership that came together as organically as a partnership could 517 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: ever come together. And we've had a lot of fun 518 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: with it. And we're only a couple of weeks in, 519 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: so this will be more fun as the weeks go along. 520 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: We announce our next tour stop every Sunday night, so 521 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: like the next show we do live show will be 522 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 2: Sunday Night. I'll tell you where we're going for week three, 523 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: and so on and so forth. Okay, let's continue to 524 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: roll on. Billy Napier at Florida lost Week one very 525 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: embarrassing fashion. It has not been a fun time down 526 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: in Gainesville. The fans are talking. We got this question 527 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: today from Michael. He said, is it in Billy Napier's 528 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: best interest to keep starting DJ Lagway at quarterback for 529 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: the rest of the season to justify what his record 530 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: may be and any hope of him moving into twenty 531 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 2: tweety five and beyond. So what's happening is Graham Mertz 532 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: is still in concussion protocol. So DJ Lagway came in 533 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: the game late against Miami. He will start this week 534 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: against Samford, and that's where we are right now. So 535 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: the fan base is asking because it's expected he'll lie 536 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: to Sanford. It's expected that'll happen. He'll probably look good 537 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: this Saturday. Do you just keep him in there? Even 538 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: when Graham Mertz is healthy. I think this is a 539 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: lose lose situation for Billy Napier. There's not a lot 540 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: of winning going down there right now or going on 541 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: down there right now. I think it's a lose lose 542 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 2: because Graham Merch started for a reason, because the coaching 543 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 2: staff thought he gives the team the best chance to win. 544 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: DJ Lagway is a true freshman. Now. I'm not blindly 545 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 2: saying that coaches never choose the wrong guy. Choosing the 546 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: right quarterback is very inexact, and sometimes you have a 547 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 2: really talented guy come in and you don't trust him 548 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: enough to give him the starting job, But then when 549 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: he goes in, it's fireworks and it makes you look 550 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: crazy for not having started him. Yeah, that's happened before. 551 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: Maybe it happens here. Graham Mertz was starting for a reason, 552 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: and so Lagway is going to get a shot here, 553 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: probably do good early, the most workable portion of their 554 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: schedules coming up. There's a brick wall down the road, 555 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: but the most workable portion of their schedules coming up. 556 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: So Lagway was you get out of jail free card. Okay. 557 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: Any coach that's feeling heat knows if you've got a 558 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 2: talented backup quarterback, that's the last bullet you can fire, 559 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 2: and normally when you're in trouble, that's when you fire it. Well, 560 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 2: Billy Napier doesn't have that option. He, through a result 561 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: of an injury, is having to use DJ Lagway now. 562 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: And if he's good, then you can't bench him once 563 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: Graham Mertz comes back, because the last thing that people 564 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 2: saw with Mertz was you getting destroyed by Miami. So 565 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: you're not gonna bench him and you're probably done because 566 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 2: I don't think Lagway nor Merch is going to get 567 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: to the back half of this schedule and save you Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, Texas, 568 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: lsu Ole, miss Florida State. Don't think so Crazier things 569 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: have happened, but I don't think that'll happen. But then 570 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: if he's bad, if Lagway's bad, there's no guarantee you 571 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: really get a full Graham Mertz back, and then you've 572 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: probably burned DJ Lagway's confidence early and you're out still, 573 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: and then he leaves at the end of the season 574 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: via the transfer portal probably. So what you do is 575 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: you just make the best decision, like you did earlier 576 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 2: in the year, and you trust your decision, and you 577 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: let the chips fall where they may. If that means 578 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: leaving DJ Lagway in, leave him in. If that means 579 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: playing Graham Mertz the second that the doctors clear him, 580 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: you play Graham Mertz. But there's a lot of mixing 581 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: and matching going on down there right now, which is 582 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: never ideal, especially in year three. Some of it is 583 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: by necessity, because when a quarterback get hurt gets hurt, 584 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: you can't have him playing. Okay, Graham Mertz got a concussion, 585 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: we can't have him in there. I think there's a 586 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: lot of mixing and matching from a play calling perspective 587 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball happening behind the scenes. 588 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: So there's a lot that hasn't been figured out fully. 589 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 2: That's the bigger issue. Figure the important stuff out, and 590 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: sometimes the tumblers just fall into place, don't And the 591 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: SEC is no conference to try and find yourself. Tennessee 592 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: or Georgia or Texas or LSU. Those are no opponents 593 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: to work on things against. At least that's the way 594 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: I see it. Colin, right before we go to Cublick, 595 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: who I assume we have. I assume, okay, we have him. Colin, 596 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: can you tell me if you can do this? Tell 597 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: me if you can show this tweet from Matt that 598 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: I sent you earlier today. If you can't, okay, you can, 599 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: all right, show me this right quick. I just want 600 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: to encourage people. I got this at six twenty three. 601 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: We went on the air at seven. Matt hit me 602 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: and said, my son is in second grade. He had 603 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: show and tell today. He took a print out of Chuggy, 604 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: who is our new mascot here, and he evidently told 605 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: his entire class about paid State. Enough was said that 606 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: the teacher messaged my wife and I asking where Peate 607 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: State was located. Proud dad, moment we are Pate State. 608 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: There is a chalice of supremacy headed towards that young 609 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: man's doorstep. Now, I couldn't get the kid's address because 610 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: laws and stuff, but I got the dad's address. I 611 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: got Matt's address. I talked to him earlier. And a 612 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: chalice of supremacy is on the way. That's why you 613 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: can't buy those things. You can earn chidli of supremacy 614 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: and follow the children. The children have it figured out. 615 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: Follow the children, and then we're gonna do the antithesis 616 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: of that, and we're gonna bring in Cole Kublic from 617 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: an airport. Where is Cublic right now? Is he joining 618 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: us live from Dallas? You're you've got the full headset on. 619 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,239 Speaker 2: You look like you're in air traffic control. What are 620 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: you doing? Uh? 621 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: We were delayed leaving Birmingham. 622 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: Apparently there was an IT failure slash shutdown on American 623 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 3: Airlines in Birmingham, so we missed our connection here in Dallas. 624 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 3: We're gonna wait about an hour before we go get 625 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: another one. The people around me are very annoyed right now. 626 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: I apologize to them, and there has to be a better. 627 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 1: Way to do this. 628 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I've got like cords, You're all the cords 629 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: that I have in a bag my FI out. You 630 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: can see that connections for all kinds of stuff here. 631 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: It's it's a lot, but this is what I do 632 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: for you, regardless of what those people on Twitter say 633 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: that it's an embarrassment that I would join you from 634 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: an airport when I feel like I'm going out of 635 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: my way to join you from an airport when I 636 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: told you originally I might not be able to hop 637 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: on tonight. 638 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: So you're welcome. 639 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, congratulations to assault. By the way, have you 640 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: just considered renting a car? It's a three hour drive. 641 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 3: I had, and I did, and this the next legs 642 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: already played. So yeah, this goes any further back. I'm 643 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 3: just gonna go get a car and go. I told 644 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: the lady, yesid. 645 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: I'll go get a car and drive. She goes, no, No, 646 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: you're better off doing this. 647 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: I said, probably not, but we'll give it one more No, dude, 648 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 3: take it from someone with tate and I couldn't do 649 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: that from a rental car. 650 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don't. Don't. Don't do the thing that McAfee 651 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: has where everyone's just in a car. Don't do that. No, 652 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: this looks a whole lot better looks classier. So I 653 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: got up this morning and I was doing some show prep, 654 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: and I never liked to listen to anyone's show, but 655 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: I turned on you and Macrory this morning, and you 656 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: guys were talking about Texas Michigan game. I texted you naturally, 657 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: you responded an hour later when the context was lost, 658 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: and you just sent a question mark. The total of 659 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: this game is in the low forties. So we were 660 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: talking earlier tonight. The style of game, I mean, an 661 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: odds maker is implying like a twenty five to seventeen 662 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: final That is not typically the kind of game that 663 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: you consider Texas and Sark being comfortable in. My biggest 664 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: question about this thing. You can tell me what you 665 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: think about this. My biggest question is as that program 666 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: gotten to a point where it's totally comfortable in just 667 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: a total fistfight, because perception is Michigan turns it into that. Well, 668 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: Michigan said, well, I don't know if they can score, 669 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: but even if they can, what if Texas is is 670 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: kind of secretly more equipped for that than anyone thinks. 671 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: I feel like you maybe watched that podcast that I 672 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 3: may be on also this week, when I talked about 673 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: the Texas offensive line, and I was a little bit 674 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 3: concerned that it was very east to west Week one, 675 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 3: and I feel like they're a group that has a 676 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: bunch of veterans and they can be physical. They didn't 677 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: really go right at that Colorado State defense. Now some 678 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 3: of that is going to be what Sark wants to 679 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: build and attach around everything that they do. I think 680 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 3: physically they can hold up against this Michigan football team. 681 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 3: I was impressed with the interier of the defensive line 682 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 3: that Texas put out there. 683 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: We kind of god about Bill Norton. 684 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 3: We didn't talk enough about him, former Georgia d tackle 685 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: been in Arizona for a few years. I thought he 686 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 3: had a great game, and it was four or five 687 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 3: guys that rolled in and played fairly well inside for 688 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 3: that Texas defense. Now doesn't mean that just overall they're 689 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 3: more physical than Michigan or they're gonna push Michigan around. 690 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: But I think they have better players. I think they're 691 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: more athletic and faster. 692 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 3: So therefore, if you defended Texas, well, what are we 693 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: looking at twenty one twenty four points? I don't think 694 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 3: there's a chance in hell that Michigan can get to 695 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 3: that even if the secondary still is porous like it 696 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: was a year ago. They didn't get tested against Colorado State, 697 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 3: so we don't know. And Texas is going to be 698 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 3: better rushing off the edge, so I think they could 699 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 3: go more quick game, essentially run the ball through the air, 700 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 3: extend the run game out to the perimeter. And I'm 701 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 3: gonna tell you, Josh, I've watched Michigan again on the 702 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 3: plane ride here. They looked human, and they looked human 703 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 3: in parts where I didn't anticipate that they would look human. 704 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: The edge defenders were able to get a consistent pass rush. 705 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 3: The interior guys got I pushed around at times a 706 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 3: couple of times, not every time, not consistently. And I 707 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 3: will also say this, Presdo State, since you listened to 708 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 3: maclroy and I kind of our adopted sons, our football 709 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 3: team that we love to watch play. They're graduating just 710 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 3: future bar bouncers year after year, like that's the kind 711 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: of individuals that they have played on the line of scrimmage. 712 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: So I was a little disappointed with what I saw 713 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: inside from Michigan. Now, those guys are still gonna be 714 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 3: drafted early and they're gonna be fine. I think Texas's 715 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 3: defense could be enough, and by default, I think Texas 716 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 3: puts up enough points to go win this football game. 717 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, whoever's unning. 718 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: But I think I know what you're doing, and I 719 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: do like the under. 720 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, yes I do. Likewise, So this whole thing 721 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: with allegedly not being able to draw anything from week 722 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 2: one if you play inferior competition has always been a 723 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 2: little suspect to me, although I get it. So I 724 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 2: watched Bama finally in its entirety, I assume you did 725 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 2: as well. I'm told you do radio in Birmingham every morning. 726 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: What did you take from a sixty two to nothing 727 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: win over Western Kentucky Thoughts compared to what you thought 728 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 2: about the team before you play? 729 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 3: Okay, so some of the questions that I had were 730 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 3: the secondary how they would sort of adapt to this 731 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: vision coverage that Kane Womack was gonna employ. It was 732 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 3: gonna be new, it was gonna be different, and I'm 733 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 3: actually interested to see. 734 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: I think that actually. 735 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 3: Could be a better scheme against this sort of Baylor 736 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 3: spread up, tempo, pushed the ball down the field offense 737 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 3: that hypo runs and now Goalish is running. Because we've 738 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 3: seen Nick Saban's defense get caught against that just a 739 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 3: little bit. Now what they won't be, Well, they will 740 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 3: be against this team, but not later against Tennessee is 741 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 3: physical enough to play fewer numbers inside stop the run 742 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 3: and then dedicate those defenders outside. This coverage will be different, 743 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 3: So I don't think that really matters as much. I 744 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 3: wanted to see how the secondary players. 745 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: Would sort of adapt to that. 746 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 3: If you watched Read and React Monday night, Roman Harper 747 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 3: gave a really nice demonstration as how the linebacker play 748 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: would have reacted to some things under coach Saban, yet 749 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 3: is reacting now under coach Womack, and it's a little 750 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,240 Speaker 3: bit more zone principle based. I thought the linebackers looked sleeker, 751 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 3: and I don't know if it's going to number zero 752 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 3: or number eleven for Jihad Campbell and for Deontay Lawson, 753 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 3: but they looked like they changed their bodies. They look faster, 754 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: and the edge defenders was something I had big question 755 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 3: marks about. And those guys got to the quarterback. You know, 756 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 3: I think you may have found Kway Russo being your 757 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,959 Speaker 3: guy there for a little while. 758 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: Corndieras Robinson had a couple of nice wins off the edge. 759 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 1: So I feel okay. 760 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 3: There, and then I think, now the only question that 761 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 3: really comes out that's left of it is still want 762 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: to know who the go to receiver's going to be, 763 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 3: because Jeremy Bernard didn't get a lot of targets and 764 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 3: we kind of thought it was going to be him. 765 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 3: And what's the tackle position going to look like? Because 766 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 3: you had Booker out at tackle a little bit in 767 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 3: practice this week, you had the pregame injury to Caden Proctor, 768 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 3: so that causes the five alarm fire. You start scrambling 769 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 3: moving guys around. I want to see if that position 770 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: is going to be able to solidify. However, one position 771 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 3: that you and I have talked about, and I've told 772 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 3: people about this, the tight ends blocked very well for 773 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 3: Alabama last week. They weren't actual to do a ton 774 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 3: of it, but they'll be able to lean on that 775 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 3: group to help whoever that is for a little while. 776 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 3: So I came away probably more pleasantly surprised with Alabama 777 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 3: than I thought I would. 778 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: Do you have any scenario in your mind where you 779 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: think NC State has a legitimately good chance to not 780 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 2: Tennessee off. I painted a couple of them earlier tonight. 781 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 2: What's the path if it's just outright happens. 782 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 3: The path for that to take place is number one, 783 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 3: is gonna take mistakes, and from what I saw from 784 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 3: Nikolaye Ami Lava, I don't think you're gonna get those mistakes. 785 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: And this goes back to what you just said. This 786 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: is a perfect example of it. 787 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 3: Don't take Chattanooga and say what did he do against 788 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 3: that team or against who as people like to say. 789 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 3: Take the actual throws that he made into certain coverages 790 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 3: and where the ball placement was on those throws, and 791 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 3: that can give you a little bit of a picture 792 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 3: moving forward of just how talented this young man is 793 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 3: and what he may be capable of doing. And another 794 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 3: player that I know you and I have talked about 795 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 3: that we saw that kind of proved it. Dylan Samson 796 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 3: is going to be dynamic. I think they have to 797 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 3: have him. The thing is D and C State is 798 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 3: a team that will welcome a fistfight. No Dave Dorn 799 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 3: team is ever gonna back down from that. So they 800 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 3: have a solid front seven, even losing Peyton Wilson from 801 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 3: a year ago, are they gonna be able to play 802 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 3: with three to five in the box, manage the run game, 803 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 3: limit those explosive runs, get us some third and longs, 804 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 3: and then have extra bodies to take away some of 805 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 3: the quick throws, which then the gates a little bit 806 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: of the RPO game. You're gonna have to deal with 807 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 3: the tight end because I think that position is pretty 808 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 3: good for Tennessee this year. 809 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: Is it likely? 810 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 3: No, But it's gonna have to be a lot of 811 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 3: grace and McCall because I still think if you're gonna 812 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: get Tennessee, you have to get them on their back end. 813 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: And the defensive line said they have maybe the best 814 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: pass rusher in college football. So is that likely? It 815 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: is not. 816 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 3: You'll need some mistakes, and I just don't know who's 817 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 3: gonna make it for Tennessee right now. I know it's 818 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 3: one game, lower tier competition, but who are we relying 819 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 3: on to throw multiple interceptions or fum with multiple footballs. 820 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: That just doesn't feel like something that's gonna happen. 821 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 2: So if Florida State goes over to Ireland, they get 822 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: beat by Georgia Tech, they come home double digit favorite, 823 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: they get beat again outright by Boston College. So everyone 824 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 2: looks at that second game, the one we watch Monday night, 825 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 2: that's supposed to be the get right game, and you 826 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 2: don't get right. They're saying the same thing about Clemson 827 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 2: versus app State. Clemson's offense has been, in my mind, 828 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 2: fairly pedestrian for a while, and I think almost it's 829 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 2: been glossed over because a majority of the criticism, if 830 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: Dabbo and Clemson get criticism is it's the transfer portal stuff. 831 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 2: It's people don't think that he is using all the 832 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 2: talent acquisition means at his disposal, which I agree with. 833 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 2: I think that's true. But also, while I think it's 834 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 2: totally unfair to say star quarterbacks bailed him out in 835 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 2: the past, well he recruited those guys, so you get 836 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 2: credit for that. While I think that's unfair, I do 837 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 2: think it's fair that if he's got anything less than 838 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 2: a start quarterback lately, that looks really average up there. 839 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 2: I was talking to a guy the other day, well 840 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: in a world that would know, and he said, you know, 841 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 2: Garrett Riley, there was a big deal made when he 842 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 2: got hired at Clemson behind the scenes that wasn't viewed 843 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 2: as this like overwhelming, bombshell, game changing higher It's been 844 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 2: more of the same in terms of result overall up there. 845 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 2: So app State's coming in there. It's a big win profile. 846 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 2: They went to A and M. They did it last year. 847 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 2: They'll be comfortable enough on the road. It wouldn't shot 848 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 2: me at all to see that thing. Single digit game 849 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. How do you see it? 850 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,919 Speaker 3: I love Clemson's front seven, and if they can find 851 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 3: a way to neutralize the stretch play, I think Clemson's 852 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 3: defense will be fined in this gate. 853 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: I don't think app will be as balanced as some. 854 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 3: People believe, and I think if they can find a 855 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 3: way to neutralize a play, you stop the bootlegs, the 856 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 3: play actions, and you take away some of the deep shots. 857 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: Going back to your point of quarterback, I think it's 858 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 3: totally fair and I think it's accurate because let's be honest, 859 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 3: whether it was Chad Morris or whether it's Garrett Riiley, 860 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 3: this is a quarterback driven system. It's not one that 861 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 3: you can usually thrive under without way above average quarterback play. 862 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 3: There are some systems that are built for a guy 863 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 3: that's maybe not uber talented to just do what the 864 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 3: coach is asking them to do, deliver it to playmakers 865 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 3: on a regular consistent basis, and then you can make 866 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 3: that offense go that way. I don't think this offense 867 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 3: is that. I don't think Kave Klubnick is that guy. 868 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 3: I don't think he's an elite college quarterback. Therefore the skill, 869 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 3: be it good, is not elite, and your quarterback is 870 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 3: not elite inside that system. How many years that they've 871 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 3: been telling the offensive line is gonna be better and 872 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 3: it hasn't been. It's pretty much the same year in, 873 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 3: year out, So it's not gonna be the same test 874 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 3: upfront that Georgia was. But ap State another team that 875 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 3: physicality is not really gonna be a problem. I'm anxious 876 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 3: to see games like this, Josh, because one of my 877 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 3: massive takeaways from Week one was there's always been a gap. 878 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you saw this or you 879 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: see it the same way. 880 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 3: The gap between the FCS and power forward group of five, 881 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 3: whatever you wanna call either one anymore. It is dramatically 882 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 3: different than I feel like it has been the last 883 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 3: six or seven years. And what I want to what 884 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 3: I'm wondering, and I don't think we really know just yet, 885 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 3: is is that gonna happen? Maybe not to the same extent, 886 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 3: but to an extent that the Group of five gap 887 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 3: is gonna now widen to where the power for is 888 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 3: pulling away that much further because we see all these 889 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 3: lower tier players going to different schools and having success. 890 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 3: Very rarely do we see even average or even below 891 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 3: average Power five players going down to the Group of 892 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 3: five or to the FCS. 893 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: So some of these teams are just. 894 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 3: Continuously having quality players plucked away year after year after year. Hell, 895 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 3: we got Alabama in Georgia and Clemson and a and 896 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: M and Ohio State complaining about not being able to 897 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 3: replace that. Josh, Yeah, how the hell's app stay going 898 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 3: to replace that? 899 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 1: How is Sanmford going to replace that? Like, it's literally 900 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: not possible. 901 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 3: So games like this will tell us I think we 902 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 3: need a prety example size where that gap really is. 903 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's gonna take a while for an odds 904 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 2: market to adjust to that. So Adam Lichtenstein, who covers 905 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 2: Florida sports Miami specifically for the Sun Sentinel. He put 906 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 2: out a tweet earlier today he said Miami continues to 907 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,760 Speaker 2: grow their football staff. In their media guide, I count 908 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 2: thirty seven off field personnel last year that I had 909 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 2: twenty nine in twenty twenty two, they had twenty seven. 910 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 2: So you and I have talked on the phone about 911 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 2: this a lot. I don't know that we've ever talked 912 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: about it on the show. Everyone knows what the transfer 913 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 2: portal does to the top of the G five and 914 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 2: FCS rosters. From a player's perspective, those coaches are doing 915 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 2: the same thing. Those coaches because of the new NCAA 916 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 2: rule are leaving. They've already started. That will exclamate itself 917 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 2: fivefold this December, when every major Power two slash Power 918 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 2: four program understands we can go get off field guys 919 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 2: and they can actually now coach on field, So I 920 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: can go I'm telling you right now, like I'm standing 921 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 2: at a Power for practice this spring, and I am 922 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 2: having a director of football operations walk me through his 923 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 2: coaching roster, and he's saying, Yeah, this guy here, he's 924 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 2: an off field analyst. He would have been a position 925 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 2: coach at New Mexico State. This guy here, he would 926 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 2: have been a coordinator at like Utah State. He's an 927 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 2: off field analyst. So they're not moving in a classical term. Laterally, 928 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 2: they're moving backwards to a significant degree perceptionally, but it's 929 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 2: not to those guys. They're doing whatever they can to 930 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 2: get on a Power for coaching staff. Before you know, 931 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 2: the ship departs from the dock and it's impossible to 932 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: jump from one to the other. So I think what 933 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 2: you're seeing it's still at the early stages of that 934 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 2: happening too, Like that gap only grows wider, which is 935 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 2: which leads us into this whole other conversation about how 936 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 2: you've got a playoff system right now that bakes in 937 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 2: a guaranteed spot for a G five just just because 938 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 2: what just because they've got to be baked in and 939 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 2: two years from now, when they've got that look in provision, 940 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 2: I think they'll take a long, hard look at that, 941 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 2: and I think they hate me for it. But in retrospect, 942 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 2: I think our friends in the G five will regret 943 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 2: the day that they poo pooed the idea of proactively 944 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 2: trying to build their own postseason not subsidized from that 945 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 2: that Power five playoff paycheck, which may not always be there. 946 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 3: Well, let's be real, they're still they're they're hanging on 947 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 3: to mama's boob right now, still because a little bit 948 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 3: left and they want some of that drip. Okay, So 949 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 3: whatever the wheel or percentage of the slice of the 950 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 3: pie is for them right now, if it's one billion, 951 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 3: eight billion dollars of revenue coming in, if it's gonna 952 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 3: be cut all the way down to two percent, one percent, 953 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 3: a half of a percent, I would imagine most of 954 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 3: those programs Josh Realy going at that sample, that's more 955 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 3: than we're gonna get doing the other thing. And no 956 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,479 Speaker 3: one knows what the other thing really is. So until 957 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 3: Mark Cuban steps up or Tim Cook steps up and says, 958 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 3: we will build you a playoff and we will fortify 959 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 3: it with all the finances that you need moving forward 960 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 3: for X amount of years, no one's gonna take that 961 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 3: chance because they know if it doesn't work, they literally crumble. 962 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 3: And then if you start talking about taking away some 963 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 3: of these pay games at the same time, by maybe 964 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 3: that risk being some of the fallout from that, they're 965 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 3: definitely gonna be gone. Uh on the on the portion 966 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 3: of your coaching conversation, If people don't understand how that's operating, 967 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 3: look no further than Chip Kelly, the head coach in 968 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 3: what in our lifetimes has been a destination job, not 969 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 3: saying that it necessarily is right this second, but has 970 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 3: been and we'll be getting similar checks to some of 971 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 3: those rarefied air schools that you just mentioned from a 972 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 3: media rights perspective moving forward. And he decides to say, no, 973 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 3: thank you, sir, I'm going to go over here for 974 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 3: less money and less responsibility to assure my self safety 975 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 3: moving forward and hopefully have a little bit more fun 976 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 3: along the way. So now just go down four rungs, 977 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,399 Speaker 3: two rungs, one hundred rungs. And that's what all those 978 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 3: guys you're talking about are doing, is they're trying to 979 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 3: solidify their job security moving forward by being able to 980 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 3: have something else or something different in what is a 981 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 3: more sustainable model financially moving forward. 982 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 2: I thought what you said candidly was one of the 983 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 2: top five breastfeeding g five metaphors I've ever heard. Some 984 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 2: people in the live chat didn't like it. Do you 985 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 2: have anything you want to say? 986 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 3: I don't know what there wasn't to enjoy about it, 987 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 3: and I don't know what any human on earth would 988 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 3: not understand about it. It seems to be something that 989 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,240 Speaker 3: is along the lines of natural selection and natural process. 990 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 3: But maybe they're aliens listening to the show, and we 991 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 3: don't know that. So if that's the case, I don't 992 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 3: know how to communicate with them. I don't know what 993 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 3: their upbringing was like, or how they were fed, or 994 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 3: how they were nourished as infants or baby whatever ends. 995 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 3: So that's a them problem, not an US problem. We 996 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 3: are humans, and we will speak in human terms and 997 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,720 Speaker 3: give human examples for the rest of our days. 998 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 2: Pop it out, that's it. You need to go bord 999 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 2: to flight. I gotta get you out of here. You 1000 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 2: get ornery when you travel. Cube Show, that's the name, 1001 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 2: it's Cube Show on YouTube. 1002 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: It might be out there somewhere. I don't know. 1003 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 3: And it is embarrassing that we had to use photographs 1004 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 3: this week because. 1005 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: I'm an idiot and our video didn't work. 1006 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 3: But guess what, I think our video did better than 1007 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,280 Speaker 3: all the other last like fifteen videos. 1008 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 2: So it turns us two ways that there's two ways 1009 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 2: that we get views. 1010 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 3: One don't put my face on there. Two have Josh 1011 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,720 Speaker 3: paid on. Other than that, it's misery. 1012 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 2: Okay, go to Oklahoma. I'll see you later. 1013 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 1: Later. 1014 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: All right, now, we Colin Jesse. To my knowledge, we've 1015 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 2: never had a guest in the show and then continue 1016 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 2: the show right like we always end the show with it, 1017 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 2: So we're not done with the show, so we're just 1018 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 2: going to keep right on going. That's what happened. Kublick's 1019 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 2: travels screwed us all up. But I am about to 1020 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 2: do the segment I've actually looked forward to all night. 1021 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 2: We got an issue down at Florida State, and it's 1022 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 2: not just the and two start. It is an issue, 1023 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 2: but that's not the issue I want to talk to 1024 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: you about. Apparently the O and two start's been bad. 1025 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 2: Apparently the end stadium experience has been just as bad, 1026 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 2: and the decision making around Florida State has been just 1027 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 2: as bad. So I know most of you are not 1028 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 2: following this. I'm following it for you. You're looking at 1029 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 2: b roll right now of what you probably know Florida 1030 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 2: State home games. For you, you picture Chief Aciola, You 1031 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 2: picture the flaming spear in the ground, You picture the 1032 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 2: tomahawk chop on third now, and you picture the war chant. 1033 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 2: You picture a totally unique and awesome college football experience, 1034 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 2: which means somewhere out there there is a nameless, faceless 1035 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,800 Speaker 2: bureaucrat who wants to ruin it. So they took it away. 1036 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,760 Speaker 2: Not totally, but they've taken it away on third downs 1037 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 2: like when I was growing up up until like five 1038 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 2: minutes ago. If I'm watching a Florida State game and 1039 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 2: they get you in third and seven, they're gonna pin 1040 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 2: their ears back. Normally they got high caliber athletes to 1041 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 2: come after you, but also that crowd is going to 1042 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 2: be a factor, and it feels like I'm playing against 1043 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 2: fourteen guys on defense. So they've started zero to two. 1044 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 2: They come home the other day they get just embarrassed 1045 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 2: by Boston College, and you have all sorts of people 1046 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 2: complaining about the on the field product, but they're complaining 1047 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 2: about the off the field product too, because apparently the 1048 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 2: stadium experience sucked because they have taken that away. They've 1049 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 2: taken the war chan away and they just you know, 1050 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 2: play play music on third downs, which anyone can do. 1051 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 2: There's nothing unique about that. Now. Apparently this happened last year, 1052 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,280 Speaker 2: but no one complained last year because they were winning. 1053 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 2: Apparently people didn't like it last year even but they 1054 00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 2: didn't want to complain while they're winning. But once you 1055 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,959 Speaker 2: start using then all the band aids get ripped off. 1056 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 2: And everyone's grievances get aired out. And I have not 1057 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 2: spoken to a single Florida State fan who likes this. 1058 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 2: I've spoken to like fifty million of you today who 1059 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 2: disliked this. So we don't have war chant being played 1060 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 2: on third down anymore, because we just have being played instead. 1061 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 2: And one of two things could be true here. Both 1062 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,919 Speaker 2: of them suck. Either the players asked for it, which 1063 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 2: is what we've been led to believe. The players made 1064 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 2: the request last year, which means someone down there was 1065 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 2: stupid enough to let players, in many cases who are 1066 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 2: transfers and in and out within twelve months, change a 1067 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 2: decade's old tradition. They were stupid enough to do that, 1068 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 2: or that's not the way it happened. If that's the 1069 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 2: way it happened. If you guys, I don't care who 1070 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 2: it was. I don't need to know who it was. 1071 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 2: If anyone down there actually signed off on players, many 1072 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 2: of whom will not be there for more than a 1073 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 2: calendar year, changing a decade's old tradition for a program 1074 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 2: that doesn't be long to them. They're not paying for 1075 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 2: the tickets. They're not the reason that stadium is being 1076 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 2: renovated again. They haven't shown up year over year like 1077 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 2: it's their team. But it's not their program, it's not 1078 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 2: their brand. It's the fans. The lacrosse team's working out too, 1079 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 2: but there's not nearly as much attention on them as 1080 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 2: there is on football because people have decided the football 1081 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 2: team is really entertaining and we love it, and we're 1082 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 2: gonna cherish it. We're gonna build it up. In return, 1083 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 2: we create traditions. It's not up to a kid who's 1084 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 2: twenty years old or an army of them who are 1085 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 2: twenty years old to come in and vote. Now, we're 1086 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,399 Speaker 2: not gonna do that thing anymore. And anyone who signed 1087 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 2: off on that. Can you imagine, by the way, whoever's 1088 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 2: office that was, players come in and say, yeah, the 1089 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 2: war Chan on third down, we don't want it anymore. Okay, 1090 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 2: whatever you guys say, fire that person, get rid of 1091 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 2: that person. So it either happened that way or the 1092 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,280 Speaker 2: alternative is it didn't happen that way. The players didn't 1093 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 2: ask for it, and somebody we've never even heard of 1094 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 2: just decided they didn't want the war chan on third 1095 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,399 Speaker 2: down anymore, cause why in the world would we want 1096 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 2: one of the most intimidating and unique traditions in all 1097 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 2: of college football. Why would we want to make our 1098 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 2: stadium deafening and intimidating and make it a spectacle unique 1099 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 2: unto anything else in the landscape of this sport when 1100 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 2: we can just make it sound like a gas station 1101 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 2: parking lot on a Friday night instead. Great. No matter 1102 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 2: how much you dislike these administrative types, you do not 1103 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 2: dislike them enough. I promise you if you could get 1104 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 2: to know some of these people, because I do, you 1105 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 2: would dislike them so much more than you do right 1106 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 2: now not knowing them. I know many of you work 1107 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 2: in different environments. I have my fist clinched as I'm talking. 1108 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 2: A lot of you work in environments that have nothing 1109 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 2: to do with sports. But you have to deal with 1110 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 2: these types of people you love Tradition. Tradition is what's 1111 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 2: great about college football to me, For ninety eight percent 1112 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 2: of the people watching this show, for ninety eight percent 1113 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 2: of the people in the stands at Dolte Campbell Stadium, 1114 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 2: tradition is what draws you to this sport. It's not 1115 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 2: superior athleticism. If you needed that, you'd just be watching 1116 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 2: the NFL. You wouldn't be watching in college. You watch 1117 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 2: college because it presents something that nothing else has. It's 1118 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,720 Speaker 2: called tradition, it's called pageantry. That means a million different 1119 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 2: things to a million different people. But there are a 1120 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 2: few staples around programs like Florida State, the War Channel 1121 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 2: third Down being one of them. You love that, but 1122 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 2: not everyone does, and some of them, unfortunately, get put 1123 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,399 Speaker 2: in decision making positions. You and I love the War 1124 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 2: Channel third Down. They don't. They tolerate it temporarily and 1125 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 2: hope that maybe we can kind of change it. You know, 1126 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,800 Speaker 2: it's oh, let me straighten my bow tie. I don't 1127 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,760 Speaker 2: like this. Oough. This feels kind of grimy and dirty 1128 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 2: and raw. You don't belong in a decision making position 1129 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 2: in major college athletics, point blank. So whoever signed off 1130 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 2: on that, reverse it before the next home game, and 1131 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: then after they reverse it, take the name plate off 1132 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 2: their door and kick them to the curb. That's the 1133 00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 2: way that should be handled. The Ramanudle Express Power by 1134 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 2: Fan Duel. As we just abruptly shift gears here, I've 1135 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 2: already added we already had four games on here. So 1136 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 2: Colin is showing you right now. Penn State minus thirty 1137 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 2: one and a half has since moved all the way 1138 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 2: up to thirty five and a half. I think it's 1139 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 2: thirty four and a half right now. So we got 1140 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 2: on that one early. It steamed. We got on Kentucky 1141 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 2: minus nine and a half. That's it ten and a half. Now. 1142 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,400 Speaker 2: We got on Brigham Young plus ten and a half 1143 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 2: against SMU, that's a Friday night game. We got on 1144 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 2: app State plus seventeen and a half. That one's at seventeen. Now. 1145 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 2: Notice the trend here. You need to jump on these 1146 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 2: games if you're tailing us early in the week, because 1147 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 2: chances are we'll move the market on them. And even 1148 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 2: if we're not moving the market ourselves, the market's going 1149 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 2: to move and we're getting ahead of it last night. 1150 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,959 Speaker 2: You have to be following on social as well. Josh 1151 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 2: Pate CFB on Twitter, at late Kick, Josh on Instagram. 1152 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 2: I put out Oregon minus eighteen and a half. That 1153 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 2: number is not available anymore. You had to grab it 1154 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 2: as soon as I put it out. This is a 1155 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 2: very big audience. When we put the numbers out, enough 1156 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 2: people bet it gonna last long. I am putting this 1157 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 2: game out right now. I have not said a word 1158 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 2: about it until this moment. Tulsa plus seven and a half. 1159 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 2: They're going to Arkansas State. A lot of people expect 1160 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 2: to bounce back for Arkansas State this week. A lot 1161 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 2: of people cautious about betting Tulsa. We still think the 1162 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 2: numbers too big, So we're taking Tulsa plus seven and 1163 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:23,280 Speaker 2: a half Tomorrow night. 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All right, I got one more thing to 1200 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 2: get to because I know I promised you guys they're 1201 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 2: watching us in Anaheim, California, Sugarland, Texas, and Mount Juliet, Tennessee. 1202 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 2: I promised you guys something this morning, Colin. In fact, 1203 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 2: you can start the segment here. I made a mistake 1204 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 2: the other night. We did our game previews for the week, 1205 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 2: and I thought we had exhausted all the games we 1206 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 2: needed to hit, and then you guys said, no, you 1207 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 2: did not. What is wrong with you? The audacity, the 1208 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 2: caucasidy to leave out Arkansas versus Oklahoma State, Like, what 1209 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 2: gives you the right? Well, I don't have the right 1210 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 2: to do that. So here you go, Arkansas versus Oklahoma State. 1211 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 2: I heard you, and we're gonna give you the game breakdown. 1212 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State is twenty and two at home since twenty 1213 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 2: twenty one. It has the feel, it has all the makings. 1214 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 2: It's an early kickoff. It's eleven am Central time out 1215 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 2: there in still Water. I think this game's played in 1216 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 2: like the thirties to upper thirties, just has shootout written 1217 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,439 Speaker 2: all over. We get Bobby Petrino and Mike Gundy going 1218 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 2: at it right there near high noon. Wonderful. Arkansas is 1219 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 2: a seven and a half point dog. The total is 1220 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 2: in the low sixties. That total will hit sixty four, 1221 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 2: that's my guess. So Taylor Green quarterback. They're at Arkansas. 1222 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 2: They got him from Boise. Most of you who flip 1223 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 2: through your preview magazines, that's probably what you know about him. 1224 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 2: Week one lit it up against Arkansas Pine Bluff sixteen 1225 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 2: of twenty three to two hundred twenty nine, two touchdowns. 1226 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 2: He had another eighty eight on the ground, two more touchdowns. 1227 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 2: This will be the toughest defense perhaps that he's just faced. 1228 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 2: He was playing at Boise before he got here. He's 1229 00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 2: zero to four versus Power four competition. Last two times 1230 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 2: he faced a power for a team under two hundred 1231 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 2: yards passing well on average under two hundred yards passing 1232 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 2: three interceptions, didn't run the ball very well, So it's 1233 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 2: a prove it game for him to me. Arkansas lost 1234 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 2: their left guard last week. They led the SEC last year, 1235 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 2: by the way in sacks allowed and tackles for loss allowed. 1236 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 2: So they're going into an extremely loud environment. I know 1237 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 2: you guys won't believe this, but the overall noise level 1238 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 2: in Boone Pickens Stadium very comparable to a lot of 1239 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 2: the places Arkansas goes on the road in the SEC. Now, 1240 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 2: Arkansas's done surprisingly well under Sam Pittman on the road 1241 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 2: in the SEC, So that's one reason to be confident here. 1242 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 2: Tailing Green's surrounded by better personnel. That's another reason they've 1243 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 2: got the roster and talent advantage over Oklahoma State, for 1244 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,959 Speaker 2: whatever that's worth to you. Now, as for Oklahoma State, 1245 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 2: can they make it fundamental because if Arkansas State makes 1246 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 2: if not Arkansas State, if Oklahoma State makes it fundamental 1247 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 2: here and by that I mean if Oklahoma State just 1248 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 2: rides that guy Oli Gordon, the second behind the most 1249 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 2: experienced offensive line in college football, then they'll win the game. 1250 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 2: It's if they're just popping off five and a half 1251 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 2: six yards per carry, they'll win the game. Corners are 1252 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 2: a question for Arkansas. So if they run the ball, 1253 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 2: if Oklahoma State runs the ball effectively early and they 1254 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 2: got to load the box, you got a lot of 1255 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 2: man matchups out wide. Alan Bowman's like thirty seven years 1256 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 2: old at quarterback, He'll be able to take advantage of that. 1257 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 2: They've got good enough wideouts on this team. Linebackers also 1258 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 2: a question for Arkansas here. So the one thing that 1259 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 2: I wonder about is we think defensive lines are the 1260 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 2: strength of the Arkansas team. So maybe they stand up 1261 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 2: against the run a little bit more than Oklahoma States 1262 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 2: used to see. And maybe you make Allen Bowman throw 1263 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 2: the ball. Last year, he threw the ball to the 1264 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 2: other team a lot. It was the thing that they 1265 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 2: knew they needed to work on. So if I get 1266 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 2: him in a shootout and he puts the ball in 1267 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 2: the air more, it gives me more chances to pick 1268 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 2: him off. I trust Tayling Green. He's just got to 1269 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 2: have the game of his career here. O. Woman had 1270 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 2: four multi interception games last year. That's a quarter of 1271 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 2: the games you play. So it's out there. It's out 1272 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 2: there for Arkansas even maybe to get out gained and 1273 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 2: still win the game. Arkansas is not bad on the road. 1274 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 2: They're not bad. I mean they've lost a lot of 1275 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 2: close games to much better teams than they are. They 1276 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 2: lost by like three in Tuscaloosa last year. No one 1277 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 2: even remembers that, just random close games out of nowhere. 1278 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 2: Jacquinnin Jackson is one of the key players in this 1279 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 2: game because no one's going to talk about him. He's 1280 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 2: tailback for Arkansas. I think there is a world maybe 1281 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 2: where he doesn't outrush Oli Gordon. Maybe he does, but 1282 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,080 Speaker 2: there's a world like, if Arkansas wins this thing, that's 1283 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 2: your player of the game. Jaquinnin Jackson, he had about 1284 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 2: one hundred rushing yards against Arkansas Pine Bluff last week. 1285 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,120 Speaker 2: If they win the game, that's probably your player of 1286 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 2: the game. And he is doing the postgame interview afterwards, 1287 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 2: and he's talking about how everyone talked about Oli Gordon 1288 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,919 Speaker 2: and I saw this as a stage to make my mark. 1289 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 2: You're trying and envision these sorts of things. That's how 1290 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 2: it could play out. Colin. Let's take a look at 1291 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 2: what the model thinks FanDuel. Right now, Oklahoma State minus seven. 1292 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 2: The model nearly agrees across the board. Model has Oklahoma 1293 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 2: State minus seven. I think that in a game I 1294 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 2: expect to be played in the mid thirties, upper thirties, 1295 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 2: that kind of game. If I have that kind of game, happening, 1296 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 2: and you're giving me anything over a touchdown. I'm willing 1297 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 2: to take Oklahoma State to win the game, outright, I 1298 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 2: will take Arkansas plus the points. So I'll split the 1299 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,439 Speaker 2: difference there. Cowboys win a close game, one possession game, 1300 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 2: give me Arkansas plus the points. We are off to 1301 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,560 Speaker 2: an arbor tomorrow. It is going to be an incredible Saturday. 1302 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,960 Speaker 2: And remember, as you guys found out last week, when 1303 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 2: we go on the road, we go on the road, 1304 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 2: and I'm not doing a big, huge production pregame show. 1305 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 2: We leave it to the big networks to do that. 1306 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 2: I get down in the trenches for you. I take 1307 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 2: the eye, Josh, I charge it up, and I give 1308 01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 2: you as much behind the scenes access as I possibly can. 1309 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 2: The things you can't see on TV. That's what I 1310 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 2: aim to show you. And so we did it last 1311 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 2: week in the Swamp. I'll do it this week in 1312 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 2: the Big House. Many of you have never been there. 1313 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 2: It's an incredible venue. It's like five hundred years old. 1314 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 2: I think gladiators fought there at one time. It's awesome. 1315 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 2: There's one access tunnel for both teams. You can get 1316 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 2: a little chippy in there at times. Well, I mean, 1317 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 2: we caught that Ohio State Michigan dust up three years 1318 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 2: ago and then had to give it to Fox free 1319 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 2: and good for me, by the way for doing that. 1320 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 2: So there's no telling what you can see. Make sure 1321 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 2: you're following the Instagram story is very lively on Saturday. 1322 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 2: Not to mention Friday at Lines the night before at 1323 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 2: Lake Kick, Josh, we got to get out of here. Okay, 1324 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 2: you're free to go enjoy your NFL now, just make 1325 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 2: sure you subscribe to the channel and tell five of 1326 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 2: your friends to do the same. 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