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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome to stuff.

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Speaker 1: I never told your protection of I heart radio. So Annie,

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Speaker 1: I know who your favorite band was, which is Green Day?

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Speaker 1: What was your favorite album of all time even to

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Speaker 1: this day. Oh no, no, no, no no, I can't

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Speaker 1: do that. That's a huge question. I was hoping it

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Speaker 1: But okay. I do have a list of my ten

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Speaker 1: and I have music on there and if songs in there,

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Speaker 1: update it. I can tell you my favorite Green Day

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Speaker 1: album was American Idiot, because that was like prime. It

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Speaker 1: I loved it. Is that an album that you consistently like?

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Speaker 1: What is your most plays album currently? Oh? I want

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Speaker 1: to check now. I have no idea, and I oh,

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Speaker 1: I use like gosh, I use I have updated it

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Speaker 1: I use YouTube music. I used to use Google play like,

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Speaker 1: I use really obscured kinds of things. So I don't

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Speaker 1: So every time I listened to it, it it brings me

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Speaker 1: But amidst these difficulties, Rainy's protagonists did not rely on

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