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Speaker 6: I've been slacking on that. That was low and you.
Speaker 7: Do it different every time. I don't know me because
Speaker 7: I'm like one day I'm a harmonized but it's just like, wow,
Speaker 7: you can you pick a different note every time?
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Speaker 8: Oh my god, I know my ear started bringing that's
Speaker 8: crazy practice. I had to take that practice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right now, speaking of practice, guys, yes, we're talking
Speaker 5: about practice. We're absolutely talking about talking about my bad
Speaker 5: Guess what what Brandon Cooks, Marshawn neland designated to return
Speaker 5: to practice today today, they have returned the practice right right.
Speaker 6: Now, Let them cook.
Speaker 5: Let them cook, and Marshawn don't have one for.
Speaker 8: That, let me think it's fine. I'll think on it.
Speaker 5: The impact that these two guys, well, of course they
Speaker 5: probably won't play this Sunday against the Washington Commanders, but
Speaker 5: their twenty one day practice window has officially started. Just
Speaker 5: having those guys back, what kind of impact. Let's start
Speaker 5: with Brandon Cooks first. That impact of having Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 6: Back, what is it?
Speaker 8: Yeah? I mean, honestly, it's a morale boost and I
Speaker 8: think that's exactly what this team needs right now, coming
Speaker 8: off of back to back to back to back losses.
Speaker 8: I just had to the point, is you get a
Speaker 8: moral boosts from even just saying Brandon Cooks right, The
Speaker 8: impact that he has in that locker room, in that room,
Speaker 8: just his presence alone, his mentorship, him being back physically
Speaker 8: and being able to help coach these guys. Because let's
Speaker 8: keep it a buck here, some of these guys that
Speaker 8: he's around will not be here next year. They might
Speaker 8: be free agents, they might go to another team so
Speaker 8: what they can get out of Brandon Cooks for the
Speaker 8: rest of the season will be not just valuable, you know,
Speaker 8: for the rest of the season, so they don't have
Speaker 8: to end it in such a miserable fashion, but it
Speaker 8: could extend past and really get them good tape to
Speaker 8: get them where they want to be an extra whether
Speaker 8: that's here or not. So getting a morale boost first
Speaker 8: and foremost. Second of all, you get some consistency here
Speaker 8: as well, from that wide receiver to position that has
Speaker 8: been a question mark really all season. It's kind of
Speaker 8: been mixed around. Is it terp is it Jalen Tolbert.
Speaker 6: We don't know.
Speaker 8: But what you do know is when you have a
Speaker 8: Brandon Cooks on the field, you have consistency. And that's
Speaker 8: exactly what this offense needs.
Speaker 7: I'm with just in terms of morale. As far as
Speaker 7: what's expect from them on the field, Ideally we would
Speaker 7: get the consistency that you're talking about, but considering what
Speaker 7: they're both coming back from, I think we do need
Speaker 7: to wait and see what they do before we put
Speaker 7: those expectations on them. However, yesterday, when Mike McCarthy was
Speaker 7: asked about who's been stepping up as a leader on
Speaker 7: this team in the absence of DeMarcus Lawrence and Dak Prescott.
Speaker 7: He mentioned that what he's been depending on is guys
Speaker 7: to lead by example and show what they should be
Speaker 7: doing as players, and that different guys have been stepping
Speaker 7: up at different times, especially when they're designated team captains.
Speaker 7: So when it comes to that leading by example, we
Speaker 7: know Brandon Cooks is one of those people who historically
Speaker 7: has been.
Speaker 6: Very good for that.
Speaker 7: So I feel like him being back at practice, him
Speaker 7: being active during the games, even if he doesn't get
Speaker 7: as many snaps starting off, I think that'll do some
Speaker 7: good things for the offense because you've got guys that
Speaker 7: are still fighting for various reasons. There are some people
Speaker 7: who really want to try to do the absolute most
Speaker 7: with these next seven games. There are some people who've
Speaker 7: got incentives or they just want to put out good tape.
Speaker 7: So I believe that the example that he can set
Speaker 7: will be really good for this offense. So we'll see
Speaker 7: a morale boost, we'll see lifted spirits, and other than that,
Speaker 7: we'll just have to see how they've recovered and how
Speaker 7: they come back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, y'all pretty much said it. All in
Speaker 6: regard to the benefit of the him actually being on
Speaker 6: the field, I'm just at a point to where, very
Speaker 6: similar to how y'all said, is that it's too further
Speaker 6: the team and for them to and these guys to
Speaker 6: further themselves. Given where you are in the season, I'm
Speaker 6: not expecting well, I will say, just me personally, I'm
Speaker 6: just glad that Brandon Cooks has some time to get healthy.
Speaker 6: This knee was bothering him since training camp, and him
Speaker 6: having this time off I think will benefit him as well,
Speaker 6: just in his route running and things, because we weren't
Speaker 6: seeing the suddenness of being able to stop on a
Speaker 6: dime and go out of his and release and so
Speaker 6: him being back to his one hundred percent self. I'm
Speaker 6: happy for the player to have the opportunity to play
Speaker 6: fully healthy at this point in the season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you have to have you have to
Speaker 5: always be happy about a Brandon Cooks. I mean, you
Speaker 5: all hit it on the nail, but being happy about
Speaker 5: Brandon Cooks being back in the fold because you do
Speaker 5: get to learn from him. It's specifically like a guy
Speaker 5: like Jayalen, Tolbert Turpin. They've always spoken so highly about
Speaker 5: what he brings to the table, but switching gears to
Speaker 5: Marshaw Neeland having him back, and again, this doesn't mean
Speaker 5: that they're gonna be playing this week, I would hope not,
Speaker 5: because you still have to slowly get them back into
Speaker 5: the mix of things. But just having him, a guy
Speaker 5: like that back, and even though he's a rookie, having
Speaker 5: him back, what does that mean.
Speaker 6: It's I'm ecstatic.
Speaker 7: I mean, he's a rookie with a cultural impact. So
Speaker 7: I think in a lot of the same ways. Although
Speaker 7: it wasn't as declared because people aren't used to having
Speaker 7: him around as much, but you could tell that, you know,
Speaker 7: the way he approached the game had an impact on
Speaker 7: the rest of the unit.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's relief. It's relief for that really run around
Speaker 8: and this is a room that you know we've talked
Speaker 8: about has been hit time after time this season, a
Speaker 8: very heavily impacted room, starting, you know, with Sam Williams
Speaker 8: going out, and then you had Tank and then Mark
Speaker 8: Shawn and then Micah, Like it was just one thing
Speaker 8: after another. So now that you can slowly kind of
Speaker 8: start to build back what I think Mike Zimmer's vision
Speaker 8: was for this D room. It really just puts you
Speaker 8: in a good position as far as going forward, you
Speaker 8: can start to see more of what the vision actually was,
Speaker 8: because I truly believe what you're seeing out of Mike
Speaker 8: Zimmer's defense is not what he had planned given the
Speaker 8: amount of injuries to key significant players younger or older,
Speaker 8: a Tank Lawrence or Marshawn Kneeland. When you have both
Speaker 8: ends of those spectrum out, that impacts your vision significantly,
Speaker 8: and I think that's kind of what you're seeing now.
Speaker 8: But it brings relief. It brings relief to everybody around,
Speaker 8: including the coaching staff who could scheme upon his return.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, I mean I'm excited for Marshawn Kneelan one of
Speaker 6: my favorite players coming out of this draft. I think
Speaker 6: he came out and showed very early why he was
Speaker 6: drafted those first few games, just showing that run stopping
Speaker 6: ability and the soundness that he plays with as a defender,
Speaker 6: as a run defender specifically. But he was before he
Speaker 6: got injured, starting to show some pass rush ability, starting
Speaker 6: to have a pass rush plan, showing that heaviness in
Speaker 6: his hands, and so I hope that he's able to
Speaker 6: continue to build upon that and in regard to Zimmer's defense,
Speaker 6: as you mentioned just, I do think that we are
Speaker 6: seeing this defense make little improvements every week, and one
Speaker 6: thing that they are doing well is getting pressure, but
Speaker 6: they're not getting home. And I think that maybe not
Speaker 6: right away, but his presence will eventually start helping because
Speaker 6: he can push, he can push the pocket. He's still
Speaker 6: very strong, so we'll see how his impact allows Zimmer
Speaker 6: to maybe do some things that he's been wanting to do,
Speaker 6: as you were talking about just and yeah, again, I
Speaker 6: didn't want him to miss his whole rookie year, so
Speaker 6: I'm happy that he's on the field again.
Speaker 5: It kind of goes back to what you were saying
Speaker 5: yesterday about now you kind of just sit back and evaluate,
Speaker 5: especially with getting guys back.
Speaker 6: Later in the season.
Speaker 5: And it's unfortunate that they had to deal with injuries
Speaker 5: the entire year leading up into Week eleven.
Speaker 6: But I mean, now, wow, I feel like he just
Speaker 6: it feels like he just got injured, and it feels
Speaker 6: like the season just started.
Speaker 8: Yes, to me, it feels much longer than it's actually
Speaker 8: been since he got injured, because I was about to
Speaker 8: be possitive by faster, a much dark at four PM, No.
Speaker 7: I'm expected every week the practice report came through.
Speaker 6: Because whoa, I was waiting for that. All right, here
Speaker 6: we go, here, we get here. You already ready for really?
Speaker 6: You already ready? I guess actually ready?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I need some more energy because that wasn't it.
Speaker 6: We're ready.
Speaker 5: It's a little bit better, all right. Doron Bland full participant,
Speaker 5: Brady Cooks limited as expected, too many doga full participant.
Speaker 5: Jake Ferguson did not participate obviously concussion from week eleven.
Speaker 5: UH Tyler Guiden full participant, Eric Kendricks limited, Marshaw Neeland limited,
Speaker 5: Seedy Lamb limited, back foot injury, Jordan Lewis limited. He
Speaker 5: did say today in locker room.
Speaker 6: That he feels good.
Speaker 5: He's still expecting to play on Sunday against the Commanders.
Speaker 5: Uh Hana Lipke, Zach Martin, Tyler Smith, Nick Vigil did
Speaker 5: not participate in today's practice, So m still another lengthy
Speaker 5: injury report. But who stands out there?
Speaker 7: City's still dealing with the ac joint thing as well,
Speaker 7: because he's been.
Speaker 6: Embrace on it has his back foot.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I was just wondering if he was.
Speaker 8: He's just he's fighting through it.
Speaker 9: He is.
Speaker 8: I mean, nothing really surprises me on that, nothing really
Speaker 8: stands out. What I did like to hear was Doron
Speaker 8: Bland being a full participant. That's who you know I
Speaker 8: have been waiting to see and and not just me, everybody,
Speaker 8: And honestly, if any room needs relief, we're talking about relief.
Speaker 8: It is that cornerback room and Deron Bland. You know,
Speaker 8: I think they'll kind of inch him in a little bit.
Speaker 8: They're not really going to full blown put you out
Speaker 8: there every single snap. You know he's coming back from
Speaker 8: an injury. But to get that relief out there and
Speaker 8: just have that name again, that respect on the field,
Speaker 8: coming off of a record for making season last year,
Speaker 8: that makes people question what they're doing. Especially when you're
Speaker 8: talking about a rookie.
Speaker 6: Quarterback coming in this who.
Speaker 8: Is going to get saying you don't necessarily have the
Speaker 8: rookie to pick on anymore. If you have a Darn
Speaker 8: Blend and a Trayvon Diggs side by side, you don't
Speaker 8: really have a week side anymore. If you will, And
Speaker 8: not to say Kayling Carson is week I'm just saying
Speaker 8: there's a different respect that quarterbacks and opposing offensive coordinators
Speaker 8: do not have for Kayling Carson yet.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say yet because it will come. Was he
Speaker 6: on injury repoor?
Speaker 5: He not on her?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 6: Okay, why because he will?
Speaker 5: I don't know if you had like no, no, you
Speaker 5: just didn't know if the shoulder was Yeah, because I
Speaker 5: was trying to figure out the decision to start Israel
Speaker 5: mccombell last week.
Speaker 6: I mean, is that again, is that a corners are
Speaker 6: like kickers if the feelings get hurt. If I had,
Speaker 6: they got to bounce back. He seemed fine and lockery.
Speaker 6: He's not sure, he's fine. I he that's the type
Speaker 6: of person he is. I'm not worried about his confidence.
Speaker 6: I'm wondering if they're trying to figure things out or
Speaker 6: or they just throwing things at the wall trying to
Speaker 6: figure things out at this point. And also, Israel mcuomo,
Speaker 6: if I'm not mistaken, is on his last year. He
Speaker 6: iss so maybe they're trying to give him an opportunity
Speaker 6: as well.
Speaker 8: I also think he's earned it at this point. I
Speaker 8: think is he's been patient, He's waited until his number
Speaker 8: has been called and his whole crew, and I really
Speaker 8: think at this point in the season, when you're down
Speaker 8: to your last wire. Why not give the guy that's
Speaker 8: earned it and busted his tail to always be there
Speaker 8: the shot. I mean, Kaitlyn got his shot, and yes
Speaker 8: it's been rough, but I think it was here.
Speaker 6: Next year exactly, he's gonna be here exactly. Yeah, yes, sure,
Speaker 6: what year does he know he was? He went in
Speaker 6: the fish? Yeah, you know he went in the fish.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, he'll be here.
Speaker 6: Next fifth round. Players don't get the same opportunity you're
Speaker 6: going to be here.
Speaker 7: That's fair.
Speaker 8: But I also think looking at the the laundry list
Speaker 8: of free agents, and you're right, think he has a
Speaker 8: better shot being here than he'll be fine something.
Speaker 5: That's a guy like Al Harris in his corner who
Speaker 5: absolutely loves him in this room.
Speaker 7: So guy's going to reserve my enthusiasm on Deron Bland
Speaker 7: just because he's been a full participant before.
Speaker 6: That's very true, and that is true.
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm just excited to see consistency in the
Speaker 8: full participancy here, and not to say we don't know
Speaker 8: what's gonna happen com Sunday, but to see it consistently
Speaker 8: happen to me, that's always a really good sign that
Speaker 8: you're on an upward tick to returning.
Speaker 6: I don't know what his rehabits look like, but I
Speaker 6: do understand like in how he plays and the agressives
Speaker 6: that he plays with, being able to have confident in
Speaker 6: that foot, to plant, to drive, to go to turn
Speaker 6: his hips, all those things is something that's going to
Speaker 6: take time. So I just want to see him. I'll
Speaker 6: be watching him very closely if he does get to play,
Speaker 6: his movement, his body language is all those things about him,
Speaker 6: because it's kinda will make some special like that to me.
Speaker 6: It's kind of what makes them special is the footwork,
Speaker 6: is the ability to take some risks that other people
Speaker 6: maybe can't do. And so I'm looking. I'm just gonna
Speaker 6: be paying attention to that, letting him slowly but surely.
Speaker 6: Foot injuries are serious. Have y'all stumped? Y'all's told you
Speaker 6: thought you was gonna die. Imagine fracturing something in there.
Speaker 6: So the O, yeah, you want to you want to fight?
Speaker 5: I did literally tell you trying to box whatever you
Speaker 5: hit your toe on.
Speaker 6: So imagine squaring up with the track.
Speaker 8: I almost did. So.
Speaker 6: Just imagine having a broken foot. It is so the
Speaker 6: bones in your foot are so delicate. I'm sure you
Speaker 6: know that. So it's like it is gonna take him
Speaker 6: some time. So I'm with them and the muscle sister.
Speaker 6: So whenever he decided anything and insane, uh wait till
Speaker 6: he comes back, goes to words.
Speaker 5: DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 6: He was seen in the building today. Yeah, yeah, he lives. Yeah.
Speaker 5: He did tell the media that he's close to returning,
Speaker 5: and he did say that he's unlike the conversations that
Speaker 5: have been surrounded around Zach Martin, he did make it
Speaker 5: clear he will be back next year. He ain't letting
Speaker 5: no injury yeah deter him.
Speaker 8: Well, he's a free agent next year, so exactly will
Speaker 8: he be back?
Speaker 5: All right, let's not think about that right now.
Speaker 2: I'm but no.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just good to hear from DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 5: and the fact that he's just kind of taken his
Speaker 5: time and rehabbing. So he did emphasize that as well.
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Speaker 5: we're gonna be taking a look at the Washington Commanders
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Speaker 5: Take a look at the Cowboys versus Washington Commanders. You
Speaker 5: look at the NFC standings, and the Cowboys right now
Speaker 5: are five games behind.
Speaker 6: The Eagles, who are first.
Speaker 5: Then you look at second sitting at seven to four,
Speaker 5: seven and four as the Washington Commander. So the Cowboys
Speaker 5: are now three games behind the Washington Commanders. Let's start
Speaker 5: with what a win I mean. You look at the
Speaker 5: Cowboys record three and seven. Would a win right now
Speaker 5: mean anything?
Speaker 6: This is just a question, okay, but what it mean
Speaker 6: for the Cowboys a.
Speaker 7: Win considering because they considering what they would have to
Speaker 7: do to win, a win would actually mean a lot
Speaker 7: right now. It would mean that the players still have
Speaker 7: a high enough morale to actually go out there and try.
Speaker 7: Because while the Commanders, they're not perfect by any means,
Speaker 7: but they have done some impressive things this season. Like
Speaker 7: Jayden Daniels has.
Speaker 6: Looked really good.
Speaker 7: It sounds like he's bouncing back from that rib injury.
Speaker 1: So it.
Speaker 7: From what I'm hearing, it sounds like the Commanders are
Speaker 7: expecting this to be somewhat of a get right game.
Speaker 7: They're on like a two game losing skid, you know,
Speaker 7: and they're looking to correct some things against the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: So if the Dallas Cowboys are able to approach this
Speaker 7: game with the mindset and the work ethic that's required
Speaker 7: to go up against a team who feels like pretty
Speaker 7: much like they should be able to win this game,
Speaker 7: and that they can use this game to correct some
Speaker 7: of the things that they haven't been getting right, it
Speaker 7: would mean that they they've gotten a consistent run game going.
Speaker 7: It would mean that the defense is stopping the run.
Speaker 7: It would mean that the defense is figuring out some
Speaker 7: of the tricks that they try to pull with the
Speaker 7: offense in terms of how they scheme things in order
Speaker 7: to make their own run game effective. So we'd see
Speaker 7: a lot of good things from the Cowboys. I think
Speaker 7: there are some people out there who who might uh
Speaker 7: break the Hopium out the ziplock bag if that.
Speaker 6: Were to happen. Sorry, wait what huh? The Hopium the
Speaker 6: Hopium zip block bag at the zip block bag is
Speaker 6: in the bag. Yeah, they're gonna take it out.
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, I'm so confused.
Speaker 6: I'm picking over.
Speaker 7: I don't know where people keep their hopium, but wherever
Speaker 7: it is, they they would break it out in saturation.
Speaker 6: Still lost. It's fine, very lost.
Speaker 5: It takes me a minute too.
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Speaker 8: Okay, your question was would this wind do anything? Yes,
Speaker 8: anytime you can be a divisional opponent. I mean it
Speaker 8: just feels nice. And really, who I feel bad for
Speaker 8: at this point are the rookies on this team who
Speaker 8: have to continue to be here after this year, no
Speaker 8: matter what happens, and not getting to experience, you know,
Speaker 8: divisional wins or a winning record, because for the past
Speaker 8: four years that wasn't a problem, and so what would
Speaker 8: a win do. To be honest, it's really what you need,
Speaker 8: you don't According to the coaching staff, they haven't lost
Speaker 8: the locker room. I don't think they have. I think
Speaker 8: this is a group of guys that, because they are
Speaker 8: on the Dallas Cowboys, learn to drown out outside noise.
Speaker 8: That is one of the first things these rookies learn
Speaker 8: is you cannot listen to it. The veterans preach it,
Speaker 8: the coaching staff preaches it, so they have their little
Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys bubble. For me, I don't really think the
Speaker 8: bubble has been tainted yet by the disbelief that this
Speaker 8: team is not a good team. But I do think
Speaker 8: a win would just be a nice refreshing feeling for
Speaker 8: these guys at this point, because, let's face it, two,
Speaker 8: you also don't want to go out and lose division
Speaker 8: game after division game after division game, seeing that the
Speaker 8: Giants are in your your future, you're very near future
Speaker 8: as well. If you lose the Eagles, you lose the Commanders,
Speaker 8: and potentially, I don't know what could happen on Thanksgiving
Speaker 8: you lose to the Giants. What does that do? So
Speaker 8: for me, you need to start that winning streak, especially
Speaker 8: in your division, because look, playoffs foggy right, looks out
Speaker 8: of reach, not impossible, not likely. But if you really
Speaker 8: really want to screw with the Eagles, start winning and
Speaker 8: mess up there seating you guys like, that's the best
Speaker 8: thing you can do at this point. So to me,
Speaker 8: you need to keep the morale boosted because if you
Speaker 8: lose that locker room, that's when things get ugly. And
Speaker 8: I don't think they've lost the locker room yet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean really, I mean, for me, it's again,
Speaker 6: I'm I'm we're talking about evaluating moving. I think that
Speaker 6: Washington offense specifically is they're kind of building a foundation.
Speaker 6: We can expect to see Jayden Daniels for multiple years,
Speaker 6: we can expect to see Brian robertson like, we can
Speaker 6: expect to see Terry McLaurin, like these people. So I'm
Speaker 6: really looking at evaluating what going head up with them
Speaker 6: two times a year is gonna feel like. To your point,
Speaker 6: Jess and I thought you made a really good point,
Speaker 6: the fact that the Cowboys have been able to dominate
Speaker 6: in this division for the most part outside of the Eagles,
Speaker 6: and most of the time they're splitting with that with
Speaker 6: them for the last three years, I mean, maybe more
Speaker 6: than that, depending on if you count what's happening with
Speaker 6: the Giants for the last like forever since that's been
Speaker 6: in the league. But yeah, it's just it's they have
Speaker 6: these teams have caught up. Let's put it like that.
Speaker 6: You know, the rest of the NFC East has caught
Speaker 6: up with your talent and all those things, and so
Speaker 6: this to me is gonna be a nice little look
Speaker 6: see into Okay, this is what the competition is gonna
Speaker 6: look like every year. This is what and Washington's going
Speaker 6: to be able to build upon what they have now.
Speaker 6: You know, Jaye Daniels is going to get better. And
Speaker 6: I for one, am excited about there being competition in
Speaker 6: the NFC East now, Like, I don't think it's healthy
Speaker 6: for you to just have a can unless you do
Speaker 6: the Patriots back in the day. It doesn't prepare you. No, Like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't think that it's.
Speaker 13: It's to your Yeah, I don't think it's like real.
Speaker 13: And we talked about that last year with all the blowouts,
Speaker 13: all the blowouts, all the blowouts, it gives a false
Speaker 13: sense of security to your team to where they lose
Speaker 13: that sense of urgency to.
Speaker 6: Go ahead and play, you know, every game like it's
Speaker 6: a serious deal. So for me, I'm just evaluating these kids,
Speaker 6: just getting the looks and most of my main kids,
Speaker 6: but Jadane is a nugget. Valuating this guy really, I
Speaker 6: am excited to kind of get a look at him
Speaker 6: playing against the Cowboys. And I will say I think defensively,
Speaker 6: they are starting to gain some momentum. To your point,
Speaker 6: I think that they are starting to find some things
Speaker 6: that work for them as well.
Speaker 5: So it goes towards the culture that dan Quinn has
Speaker 5: brought over their season three they finished four and thirteen
Speaker 5: to one, seven to ten. The list goes on till
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen, that's when they had their last winning record
Speaker 5: in their regular season. So when you look at what
Speaker 5: dan Quinn has brought to that organization, and something I'd
Speaker 5: asked the players is what do y'all feel like he
Speaker 5: has brought to the organization that he didn't or couldn't
Speaker 5: bring here. And they did talk about the belief within
Speaker 5: their defensive guys, but they said that now he's a
Speaker 5: head coach, so.
Speaker 6: That's a little bit different.
Speaker 5: You're touching so many more guys and that's some word
Speaker 5: for word. They said, you're touching way more guys and
Speaker 5: that's a dangerous type of belief you don't want to
Speaker 5: play against. So, just talking about what you've seen dan
Speaker 5: Quinn bring to that organization at the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 6: What have y'all seen?
Speaker 7: I mean, just some of the sound that that's coming
Speaker 7: out of the locker room. Yeah, you can kind of
Speaker 7: hear it exactly. What what are you about to say?
Speaker 6: My home, because my answer was go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 7: But yeah, a lot of the things that you who
Speaker 7: heard Dallas Cowboys defensive players say last season, and even
Speaker 7: like some of them have been saying it this season,
Speaker 7: you're seeing it from several members of the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 7: You can see that he has instilled belief. You can
Speaker 7: see that they feel connected, that they feel motivated, that
Speaker 7: they feel like, you know, the previous seasons do not matter.
Speaker 7: They're there now and they really believe that they're one
Speaker 7: of the best teams in the league and they're playing
Speaker 7: like it. So not only has he brought like a
Speaker 7: feeling of belief, he's actually doing things from you know,
Speaker 7: a play calling and a personnel standpoint that actually reinforces that.
Speaker 7: So you can just kind of tell the culture there
Speaker 7: is very different than what it was before. You can
Speaker 7: tell from listening to how they talk and even from
Speaker 7: listening to some of the things that Dan Quinn talks about.
Speaker 7: Like I was listening to his press conference I can't
Speaker 7: talk press conference from yesterday, and he was talking about
Speaker 7: how they do tell the truth mondays and just things
Speaker 7: like that, and talking about how that helps the players
Speaker 7: connect to one another and connect with him and how
Speaker 7: it just instills a sense of trust and helps them
Speaker 7: all kind of like find their purpose and find like
Speaker 7: common goals, common purpose and also highlight some of the
Speaker 7: things that they can do better and improve upon. But
Speaker 7: instead of feeling like they're being criticized, it's almost like
Speaker 7: they have this, uh I guess camaraderie based on what
Speaker 7: they're what they're being honest about. So just I mean,
Speaker 7: little things like that can make a big difference in
Speaker 7: how players talk to each other and how they approach
Speaker 7: the work that they have to do during the week about.
Speaker 5: Like the points tell the truth Monday, we should we
Speaker 5: should do that on the show.
Speaker 8: Call it something else, but we should do that.
Speaker 5: Talk talk Monday.
Speaker 7: I can we can we do it on Thursdays though,
Speaker 7: So I'll.
Speaker 5: Talk that talk Thursday.
Speaker 6: That a better ring to it. Actually I like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Bett triple T no I lost it.
Speaker 8: So what I think dan Quinn brought with his culture
Speaker 8: is a team that was already brought together because look
Speaker 8: at how many guys followed dan Quinn. Here us on
Speaker 8: this side, we've gotten to experience dan Quinn. And you
Speaker 8: know the impact that man has when he walks into
Speaker 8: a room it's very infectious. It's very electric, and even
Speaker 8: being in his press conferences, it's a different feeling. Even
Speaker 8: how he went about that. He would start out with
Speaker 8: a statement, say what he needs to say, and then
Speaker 8: open up for questions. And the statements that he had
Speaker 8: were very honest, very open. Wasn't trying to hide anything.
Speaker 8: It was all out on the table. It was accountable,
Speaker 8: informative and smart. So for me as a media member
Speaker 8: last year covering the team, I was like, oh, dang, okay, yeah,
Speaker 8: this is good, Like it inspires you, or at least
Speaker 8: I can talk from my own experience, it inspired me
Speaker 8: to really look into the defensive side of the ball
Speaker 8: because it was intriguing. Dan Quinn made that side of
Speaker 8: the ball intriguing. Okay, So I can imagine from a
Speaker 8: player's perspective hearing how guys him, younger, older guys that
Speaker 8: have followed him, guys that continued to follow him after
Speaker 8: they left here. Yeah, it wasn't a shock and free
Speaker 8: agency at all when we were sitting here saying, oh,
Speaker 8: another one to Washington, Guess where he's going, because yeah,
Speaker 8: he has that kind of energy that I think is
Speaker 8: just rare as a human. But it's even more rare
Speaker 8: as a coach. It's very magnetic and it draws people in.
Speaker 8: And how he does it is he takes his work
Speaker 8: very personal and he treats them almost like his children,
Speaker 8: to where I think it could be a fault of
Speaker 8: his sometimes to where it's like too personal, where you
Speaker 8: kind of saw that getting in the way here. But
Speaker 8: I think when you're rebuilding a culture like the Commanders did,
Speaker 8: that's exactly the head coach that.
Speaker 6: You needed to do that.
Speaker 8: And look, I'm happy for Dan Quinn, just not this week.
Speaker 8: To ask me any other week except to this season.
Speaker 8: This is one of the two, and it is it
Speaker 8: could be the week the Cowboys take advantage of knowing
Speaker 8: how this man operates. To like Mike McCarthy worked hand
Speaker 8: in hand with Dan. You know what this guy's thinking,
Speaker 8: you know what his moves are. Take advantage of that,
Speaker 8: and you know it could work vice versa. But Mike
Speaker 8: also coached all of the players that followed from here
Speaker 8: of there as well, So take advantage of it. Pick
Speaker 8: inside all of their minds, know their tendencies and get
Speaker 8: that win.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I guess I will say that I
Speaker 6: want to give much respect to dan Quinn as well.
Speaker 6: I mean what he was able to do here coming
Speaker 6: from this Cowboys defense in twenty twenty to turn it around,
Speaker 6: the shift that he made and the way that he
Speaker 6: you know, like you said, where it was able to
Speaker 6: galvanize some of these young players, some of these guys,
Speaker 6: and quite honestly, he revamped guy's careers. Yes, I mean
Speaker 6: Mallie Cooker coming off of Achilles. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 6: Donovan Wilson at that point hadn't even had opportunity to
Speaker 6: that point. He believed in George Lewis to be the
Speaker 6: corner that he needed him to be. He and that
Speaker 6: defense decided, Hey, Michaeh, let's go play. D n had
Speaker 6: a shifted the high. Yes, he was good. He was good,
Speaker 6: and so I wanted to definitely give much respect to him.
Speaker 6: And I think we use this this term kind of
Speaker 6: like loosely in the NFL, but he clearly understands how
Speaker 6: to be a leader and also to how to to
Speaker 6: lead those young men and to get them to and
Speaker 6: I don't man whatever, and getting them to believe in
Speaker 6: what he's he's doing. He practices what he preaches. We
Speaker 6: see that as well. But to answer your question, what
Speaker 6: did he do? What did he bring baby draft picks
Speaker 6: to you? Linebackers? You know what he brought like he
Speaker 6: washing he went into Yes, they he's play phenomenal this year,
Speaker 6: by the way, but he's played really good football this year,
Speaker 6: by the way.
Speaker 8: But he was a girls talk boys talk.
Speaker 6: It was, Yeah, he came to visit, but I will
Speaker 6: say those are the things he also brought there. And
Speaker 6: when a team sees new talent, when they see that,
Speaker 6: you are willing to go spend to bring guys in
Speaker 6: to set the foundation for that team, which is what
Speaker 6: they did. Yeah, I mean getting a quarter They have
Speaker 6: been lacking a quarterback for years. They got one. They're
Speaker 6: seeing it on display. That's I mean.
Speaker 7: The can you imagine the impact of just being on
Speaker 7: that team and you have a new coach come in
Speaker 7: and that many guys follow him, Like I feel like
Speaker 7: that alone looking like be like, okay, let me sit
Speaker 7: up straight and listen to this man, because clearly he
Speaker 7: has something that makes these guys and then like No Bron,
Speaker 7: I was in Twitter space when No Bron caught that
Speaker 7: hell made.
Speaker 8: Insane.
Speaker 7: Seriously, anyway, this is a Cowboys podcast.
Speaker 6: Sorry, but yeah, I mean out of the things he brought.
Speaker 6: I think that he just this is his fresh start.
Speaker 6: This is a new start.
Speaker 7: And.
Speaker 6: Good for them.
Speaker 8: Just not that sweet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's good for them and that I know.
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Speaker 5: biggest news of the day in Marquise Belly. All right,
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Speaker 5: real fast. There was some emotions yesterday from Bones John Fossil. Sorry,
Speaker 5: we're so used to saying bones just with the news
Speaker 5: of Marquis Spell when he went down with a shoulder
Speaker 5: injury in week eleven against the Texans. He's going to
Speaker 5: listen to what he had to say yesterday in the
Speaker 5: press conference the Harris for Star Telegram.
Speaker 10: Marky Spell, how valuable is he been senior unit, and
Speaker 10: if you lose him.
Speaker 5: Howeveral goals?
Speaker 10: Yeah, Yeah, that one hurts. I mean, he's he's put
Speaker 10: as good as Special Team's ball through ten games as
Speaker 10: I can remember. I mean, man, and he just you know,
Speaker 10: he he got hurt doing what he does best. He's
Speaker 10: just flying in there, diving and he's gonna be okay.
Speaker 10: But man, just gosh, spend so much time with these
Speaker 10: guys in meetings and practice field and the game field
Speaker 10: and the emotions of you know, untrafted to wanting a
Speaker 10: little bit more and accepting his role and thriving in
Speaker 10: his role. Damn that. And I'm hurting for him because
Speaker 10: he was on he was on a mission. He was
Speaker 10: as good as we've had in a while.
Speaker 2: So that one hurt.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 5: And that was yesterday's press conference, and then today there
Speaker 5: were reports from Todd Archer from ESPN. He had said
Speaker 5: that Marquis Bell will miss the rest of the season
Speaker 5: with a dislocated left shoulder that may require surgery.
Speaker 6: That was per his sources.
Speaker 5: However, we will not have that confirmed until Mike McCarthy
Speaker 5: addresses the media at four forty five, So be sure
Speaker 5: to wait and listen to that to hear confirmation on
Speaker 5: Marquis Bell.
Speaker 6: But when you talk.
Speaker 5: About Bones and the Special Teams Unit, I mean, what
Speaker 5: have y'all seen with that whole relationship and how he
Speaker 5: coaches his guys.
Speaker 7: I mean, yesterday, when that moment happened, just the air
Speaker 7: felt like got sucked out of the room because you
Speaker 7: could kind of tell, like, at the beginning of the
Speaker 7: press conference, there were several people in that room who
Speaker 7: were just like they're like going through the motions, waiting
Speaker 7: for a headline, Like people weren't even taking notes. And
Speaker 7: then when that pause happened, you kind of saw people
Speaker 7: look up and realize like, oh, this emotion is real,
Speaker 7: and no onebody wanted to deserve the moment, But all
Speaker 7: of a sudden, laptops started opening, notebooks started opening, people
Speaker 7: started getting on their phones. You could tell that that
Speaker 7: was a moment that actually impacted them, which I feel
Speaker 7: like is so important because some of the other things
Speaker 7: that he said, like because the rest of the press conference,
Speaker 7: there was still some emotion there, and he described Marky
Speaker 7: Spell as a tough ass kid, and one of the
Speaker 7: things that he said about his Special Teams Unit, he said,
Speaker 7: these young men are very human and I feel like
Speaker 7: the way that he displayed his emotion kind of drove
Speaker 7: that home. That's something that feels like it's gotten lost
Speaker 7: this season a little bit, and this was one of
Speaker 7: the first times that we've seen someone show some real
Speaker 7: emotion about one of the injuries that's happening. And I
Speaker 7: felt like that was so important for the people in
Speaker 7: the room to feel that at that time. And I
Speaker 7: went back and I watched the broadcast view of when
Speaker 7: that moment happened, and you saw Marquise go down, and
Speaker 7: you could tell the way that he was reaching, in
Speaker 7: the way that he was moving something was terribly wrong.
Speaker 7: And then the next thing that you see is Mary's
Speaker 7: lafl and keim On Hall like standing over him, literally
Speaker 7: pushing guys off of him, away from him, trying to
Speaker 7: protect their buddy. And I feel like that is the
Speaker 7: essence of what Fossil was trying to describe to us
Speaker 7: yesterday when he talked about their toughness and he talked
Speaker 7: about the fight that they still had despite everything that's
Speaker 7: happened going on this season, and how much faith he
Speaker 7: has and then just like it was all summed up
Speaker 7: in that one moment, and that was heavy. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I thought I was gonna cry listening to it.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, no, prayers up for Marquis spell praying that
Speaker 5: if he does have to undergo surgery that it goes well.
Speaker 5: His recovery process is it goes well as well. And yeah,
Speaker 5: just praying for a speedy recovery for him. But all right,
Speaker 5: we have to go because Michael Carthy will be talking
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