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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, and welcome to a special edition, a

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Speaker 1: special episode that is going on the Atlanta Falcons podcast network.

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Speaker 1: We are talking to members of the nineteen ninety eight

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. For those who don't remember that far back,

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Speaker 1: greatest season in Falcon's history. I think that's an undisputed factor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and one of the most memorable NFC championship games

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Speaker 2: in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to talk about that, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about a bunch of different stuff. I'm Scott Behar.

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Speaker 1: That's Tory mclaney sitting next to us. Tim Dwight, so

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Speaker 1: thrilled to have you here to kind of take a

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Speaker 1: trip down memory memory lane, not only to ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: but also about your tenure with the Falcons as a whole,

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Speaker 1: because there were some special moments in ninety eight. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I could talk about ninety nine for a long time too.

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Speaker 1: Average twenty point seven yards per reception, which is mind

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Speaker 1: blowing to right, But we're gonna get into all that

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Speaker 1: kind of fun stuff with Tim over the course of

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Speaker 1: the next twenty minutes or so. So let's art at

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Speaker 1: the beginning, because you have a unique perspective, right that

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Speaker 1: in ninety eight. You're from Iowa City, Iowa. You played.

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Speaker 3: For Iowa, Yeah, Iowa.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean could have gone to Stanford. Is it country?

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Speaker 1: Climb in the middle and point to it.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's how we find it and country and yeah, and

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Speaker 1: a fourth round draft pick comes out to Atlanta. So

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Speaker 1: let's just start at the beginning, you know, draft call time, Like,

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Speaker 1: what was your initial anticipation of I know that the

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Speaker 1: draft is huge now, and maybe I was pretty big back.

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Speaker 3: Then, but you know, we didn't have as many draft parties,

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Speaker 3: especially if you're going to go second or third or

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Speaker 3: fourth round. Yeah. I was actually a track meet when

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Speaker 3: I got drafted, Were you really? I was informed by

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Speaker 3: one of the ladies track teams after our meet was

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Speaker 3: out in Mount Sack, which you have this big track

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Speaker 3: meet out there.

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Speaker 1: Which is in California, right, yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: So I was sitting kind of around the first day

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Speaker 3: just hoping to see if I'd be a you know,

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Speaker 3: a third round pick or something like that, and uh,

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Speaker 3: third and I didn't come. So Sunday shows up, I

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Speaker 3: got to go run a four by one and I'm

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Speaker 3: warming up and this just one of the track members

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Speaker 3: and the girls seam comes by, Hey, congratulations, you were

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Speaker 3: just drafted. I'm like, oh, really, so who is my

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Speaker 3: Miami a Green Bay because you know, they kind of

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Speaker 3: brought me in like no, You're going to Atlanta Falcon,

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Speaker 3: like a Atlanta Falcons. Who's the head coach of Atlanta Falcon?

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Speaker 3: So I ran my race. I'm standing there and I

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Speaker 3: was anchoring the four one. I'm like, I'm an Atlanta Falcon.

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Speaker 3: Who is coaching the Atlanta Falcons? And then finally I

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Speaker 3: got off the track and my coach was Orc's like, hey,

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Speaker 3: you're in Atlanta Falcon. Like, oh, I know, I just

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Speaker 3: found out who's head coaches like Dan Reeves. I'm like

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Speaker 3: Dan Reeves, like old school Dan Reeves. Yeah, yeah, Dan Reeves.

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Speaker 3: So that was back then you didn't have a lot

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Speaker 3: of cell phones. So I called Dan from a payphone,

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, at the mount Track Star Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Like, hey man, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: I know? It's like, so I'm just Tim Dwahite. Hey, hey, Timmy,

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Speaker 3: nice to meeting you. Welcome to Atlanta. Here's your new coach.

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Speaker 3: And it was Dan son or son in law. Uh oh,

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Speaker 3: come on, I know his.

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Speaker 2: Name, the second generation of Dan Reeves.

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Speaker 3: Why am I struggling Joe Joe decon Millis, so he

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Speaker 3: gets on the phone, so you better return the ball

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Speaker 3: for me, because that's why you're coming here. Was like, oh, man,

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Speaker 3: I thought I was going to be a receiver. And

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Speaker 3: then I get here and obviously, you know, I got

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Speaker 3: Tony and Terrence here, and I'm like, yeah, I'm playing receivers.

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Speaker 3: So they brought me to be returner and you know,

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Speaker 3: and took off with that. Yeah. So no draft party,

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Speaker 3: not even like my family even called me to tell

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Speaker 3: her I was going. It was one of the somebody

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Speaker 2: Know pyphone celebrating.

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Speaker 1: I have an important follow up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: How did the four by one go? Yeah? Great?

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Speaker 3: I think we got second?

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean I don't even really remember. I

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Speaker 1: think Mount Sack is a really prestigious is it Invitational's huge?

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Speaker 3: Wow? So I don't know, if you know, I think

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Speaker 2: So you know, you get the call and you're like, okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm an Atlanta Falcon and you move to I assume

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Speaker 2: around the Swanee area. Yeah, sure, what was that kind

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean I've only been on an airplane,

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Speaker 3: So flying down here, I got dropped off I think

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Speaker 3: So I walked all the way down baggage claim and

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Speaker 3: three days right after the draft, and so they're all

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Speaker 3: standing there all waiting for me, and they're like, yo, Dwight,

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Speaker 3: Like where have you been. You supposed to Atlanta? I got

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Speaker 3: supposed to get on the train, dude. So I walked

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Speaker 3: mean it it was a little different than I was. City. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, big city, lots of people. Even though we

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Speaker 3: night life and restaurants and things, but definitely lived by

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Speaker 3: the facility. I mean back then, I mean even nowadays.

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Speaker 3: They you know, we go over the rule book, and

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Speaker 3: it was it was thirty five hundred dollars if you may,

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Speaker 3: a week for sixteen weeks, you know, So I wasn't

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Speaker 1: It seems like a dis response late to a.

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Speaker 3: Meeting, like it's gonna cost me my game check.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So as a rookie, you by pretty much lived in

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Speaker 1: Mean, or you live right next to it, as you should,

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Speaker 1: because I'm not giving up that fine, there's no way, dude.

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Speaker 3: And you only got paid six seventeen weeks, so you

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Speaker 3: the time it was like good luck. I hope you

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Speaker 3: And there's no number eight money, no websites, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And to he's knocking.

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Speaker 3: On your door for Nike deals and cars. He's this guy.

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Speaker 1: And then so you're coming onto a team that, at least,

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Speaker 1: as we saw in ninety eight is personality plush. Right

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Speaker 1: in the receiver room, you have Terrence Mathis. They just

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Speaker 1: traded for Tony Martin in June of the same year.

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Speaker 1: Like that, you got there, Jamal Anderson, all the right

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Speaker 1: rape you can all these personalities, and you're coming to

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Speaker 1: the You're coming to Atlanta, you know, as a guy

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Speaker 1: trying to prove himself, and you better return the I

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Speaker 1: won't use the words that Joe probably used, but like

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Speaker 1: go return the freaking football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it.

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Speaker 1: Was working into that team, working into.

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Speaker 3: A team of ranging from guys that play nineteen years.

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Speaker 3: I mean Morten Anderson was in his seventeenth year. There

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Speaker 3: I think it was his ninth, Tony was in his tenth,

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Speaker 3: You know, offensive line was actually fairly fairly young. I

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Speaker 3: was pretty awesome being around vets that kind of took

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Speaker 3: care of you rookies. Normally everybody's kind of fighting for

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Speaker 3: a job, right and Terrence and Tony were just wide

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Speaker 3: open with me. I mean they taught me how to

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Speaker 3: be a wide out because we didn't run the ball.

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Speaker 3: We didn't throw the ball very much at Iowa ran

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what's the pot? How do you run a

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Speaker 3: You know, how you run these option routes? And they

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Speaker 3: were phenomenal. I mean I just locked onto both those

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Speaker 3: were playing. I mean they were seven to nine a

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Speaker 3: you know, and they come down here and you got

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Speaker 3: a lot of these older coaches. Dan's in his sixties,

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Speaker 3: you know, just like a who older team, and they

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Speaker 3: were decent. And the first day saw Jamal's legs, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have a football team. Cornelis Bennett, you know,

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Speaker 3: So it was it was a special squad, probably one

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, but because you talk about like the personalities

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Speaker 2: that y'all have, but even talking to guys and looking

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Speaker 2: back at kind of old footage, this team felt so close,

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Speaker 2: Like it really did feel like y'all all were each

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even the receivers room, I mean everybody's

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Speaker 3: I got along really well, and it was just it

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Speaker 3: And it's just kind of resignated from him all the

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Speaker 3: way down and we had great guys that were just

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Speaker 3: good guys. I mean, you can kind of see how

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen Oj for twenty years, you know. I

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Speaker 3: haven't seen Tony Martin, which I haven't seen Tony today

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Speaker 3: for since the day I left here, well after the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and it's the last time I saw him

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Speaker 3: twenty five years ago. Wow. But seeing this list of guys,

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Speaker 3: and then you know, Terrence and I playing three years together.

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Speaker 3: He's like my older brother. I mean, it's just it.

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Speaker 3: We had a special we had a special squad, and

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Speaker 3: I think that's why we we played so well with

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Speaker 3: Got our rookie our rookie team comingy was a bunch

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Speaker 3: It's just laid there down, and then I yelled at

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Speaker 1: Come back here like in two thousand and six. Right,

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Speaker 3: You better return the freaking ball, right, yeah?

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Speaker 3: Got right out here out here, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I Mean everywhere you would go, it was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rookie season.

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Speaker 3: So this is the way your rookie season should be, right,

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Speaker 1: Like when the momentum builds, right, I think you were

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Speaker 2: Who has the best dirty bird?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Jam?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah? Well I think he sat there and perfected

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I think Chandler tried it like one little

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Speaker 3: definitely not at that level. Right, I'm just going to

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Speaker 1: Kind of handle all that stuff. Yeah, this is a

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Speaker 1: some stuff about Terrence Mathis. He's talking about when he

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Speaker 3: ball get thrown and then Terrence catch it, and it

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00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,360
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, we're going to super Bowl,

434
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 3: going to super Bowl. We're going to super Bowl. And

435
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,160
Speaker 3: I knew we're going to win that game after that. Yeah,

436
00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,080
Speaker 3: and then they got the ball back with fifty two

437
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 3: seconds left in regulation and they kneel on it. They

438
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 3: kneel on the ball. Yeah. Yeah.

439
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 2: Did that shock you that?

440
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,159
Speaker 3: You would think, Chris, it's tied right right, man, you

441
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 3: had to go down and we had to score touchdown

442
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,440
Speaker 3: and kick a pat to tie it up. And you

443
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,840
Speaker 3: figure they got fifty two seconds left, They got Randy

444
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,399
Speaker 3: Moss and Chris Carter and Cunningham was playing at a

445
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,119
Speaker 3: high level and they just kneel down and then they

446
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,239
Speaker 3: won the toss and then they then they thought they

447
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 3: were going to definitely win. They all exploded. We won

448
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 3: the toss, and.

449
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 2: Then the last moment of the game when they won

450
00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:58,640
Speaker 2: the toss.

451
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,880
Speaker 3: Definitely was not after we kicked the of the field goal.

452
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 2: Definitely not. Where were you on the field or I

453
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 2: guess you're probably on the sideline when Gary Anderson missed.

454
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 2: And what do you remember thinking?

455
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 3: I would sitting on the bench, you know, just talking

456
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 3: to Ronnie Harris, you know, talking about the game and

457
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 3: all that, like, man, like we got it. I don't

458
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 3: know if we're gonna you know, we're not going to

459
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 3: win this. They go by ten.

460
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this time left, there's like two minutes, and then.

461
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 3: We just saw it kicked and it just went wide

462
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 3: and we're like, holy we're back in the field.

463
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 1: Let's go.

464
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 3: And then OJ caught a caught a big pass I

465
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 3: think to start to start the game off. And I

466
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 3: think Ronnie caught a big pass too in that drive,

467
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 3: a corner route that took down the sideline and that

468
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 3: got us within you know, within the twenty yard line.

469
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 3: And then it was you know, Terrence Terrence's show.

470
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 2: There's like one one shot from the game. I know

471
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 2: this because I recently I've watched it a ton, going

472
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: back through this game and there's one moment where I

473
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 2: think it Morten Anderson's about to kick the game winner,

474
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 2: and you were on the sideline on all like hands.

475
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 3: We're all down, Yeah, yeah, we're all down there.

476
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 2: The look on your face you are just like dear

477
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: sweet lord like and you rock back and you're looking

478
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: and then you go back down on your hands and knees.

479
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: What are you feeling like? What is the apprehension of

480
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 2: what you're feeling in that moment?

481
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 3: Oh? You, I mean it's everything everything you built your

482
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 3: whole career up to, all the way from junior high

483
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 3: to high school to college to you know that those

484
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 3: first sixteen seventeen eighteen games where we played, it's always

485
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: in that moment and you're just you're, you're you're teetering

486
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 3: on this emotion of you're gonna win or you've lost

487
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 3: and you lost a chance to go to Super Bowl.

488
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 3: And I mean when he made that kick, right when

489
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 3: he kicked it, I mean he knew it because you

490
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 3: can see it, like he kicks it and he turns around,

491
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 3: and we kind of knew it because we were running

492
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 3: off into the field right when you booted it. You

493
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 3: could see how straight it was going and We're just

494
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it was it was you know, a fork. Yeah,

495
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: it was one of the greatest feelings I've ever had

496
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 3: right career. Is there all about the team too, because

497
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 3: it took like everybody to play in that game. We

498
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 3: all made plays sure, that whole game, and you know

499
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 3: Morton made the biggest one.

500
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: Is there a moment of that entire day that you

501
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: look back on you're like, that's a moment I'll never forget.

502
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a conversation that you had with Dan Reeves

503
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 2: or something like. Is there a moment that you're like,

504
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: you know what that meant a lot to me, or

505
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 2: that's a moment that I will take with me for

506
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: the rest of my life.

507
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: Man, that's a good question. I remember talking. I remember

508
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 3: talking with Chris on the sideline about winning this game

509
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 3: and getting the ball back and being able to go

510
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: down and get and and win that. He's kind of

511
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 3: looking at me like, yeah, you're crazy, and I'm like, dude,

512
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 3: we're going to win this game. You know, we're gonna

513
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 3: get this football back. When to go right down there,

514
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna score because that's what our office was doing

515
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 3: all year. But you know that kick, you know I

516
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: had a big run in the game where I got

517
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 3: my head ripped off, and I was gonna say that

518
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: was the big moment I had a I had. I

519
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: had a run I had to play in there where

520
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 3: I had to do the option against Sean Randall and

521
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 3: I'm in practice all week going you kidding me? Why

522
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 3: Why am I? Why am I doing this? I'm a

523
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: rookie in this big, you know, NFC Championship game, getting

524
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 3: the snap, trying to make a decision either to you know,

525
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 3: and I've never ran the option, So I put it

526
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: to Jamal or I'm gonna take it, and John went upfield.

527
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 3: So I ended up taking it. But it wasn't a

528
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 3: big run. But like, thank god, I think I was

529
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: going to the I can't remember if I was going

530
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 3: to the left or right.

531
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 2: I think it was going to the I think you're

532
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: going to right.

533
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: I think I was going yeah, and yeah, I'm like,

534
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: why are we putting this play in? This is the

535
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 3: stupidest play. And I'm not a you know, I'm not

536
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 3: a quarterback.

537
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: It's like he's a he's a future Hall of Famer.

538
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And that's when John were you know,

539
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 3: he had the All Black on one of the strongest

540
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 3: guys in the league, and here I'm one hundred and

541
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 3: seventy pounds. You know, I'm just gonna get robbed.

542
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, a couple more questions before we wrap up,

543
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: because we're almost against time here. I'd be remissive. We

544
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: all know that the Super Bowl didn't go the way

545
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: that you guys wanted, and it's all about the team, right,

546
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: but can we at least mention the end of it?

547
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: Can most kickoff like return yards and Superal history. I

548
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: know that you guys are down in that moment, but

549
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: you yeah, kicking this freaking yea. But yeah, yeah, I

550
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: mean like that that that moment for you. Again, it's

551
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: all about the team and you leave disappointed, but that

552
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: that that individual moment must.

553
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that was that was my career moment. Yeah,

554
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: you know, I mean I had a million people, Yeah,

555
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 3: the super Bowl and it's a big play, you know.

556
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: You know, going to that game, we felt that we

557
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 3: had a pretty good chance to take one back. I

558
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: mean in the first one, and we won the toss,

559
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: and I mean if I got I scooted, if I

560
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: could have scooted through the middle just a little bit better,

561
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 3: maybe made a move on you know, the safety. I

562
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: could have maybe took that one the first one, but

563
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 3: we just felt we had a good opportunity to, you know,

564
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 3: for this team to pop one. I mean every game

565
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: we felt that because I had I had meat in

566
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 3: front of your and every every kickoff we kept getting

567
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: further and further. And the second the one before that,

568
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 3: I ended up popping out to the outside and their

569
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: backside safety and pushing me out of bounds and I

570
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: turned them. I'm like, I'm taking this next one back

571
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: on you, and he's like, whatever, man, I'm all right.

572
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: And then so it's kind of the same return. It

573
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 3: was wedge right, and I was just a little more

574
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 3: patient on finding that hole, and I popped out to

575
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: the right side again and he came over the top

576
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 3: and I was like, uh uh, I just shook underneath them.

577
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: And then you know, there you are in the Super

578
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 3: Bowl at midfield and there's the kicker Jason elam right,

579
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 3: and you can't let God forbid, I'm getting tackle oled

580
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: at the center field in the Super Bowl. And so

581
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: I didn't really have to joke him. I just kind

582
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: of ran around him. And then Elijah Williams came in

583
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: from behind me and kind of shielded off a guy

584
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: that maybe could have got me. And then after that

585
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: it was you know, tiptoe backwards right, you know, into

586
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: the end zone.

587
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: It just seems like, going.

588
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: We can still win this game.

589
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: Let's go stranger things have happened keeping this ball?

590
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: That was where's the ball? Now it's hidden? It is okay, yeah,

591
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 3: but it's not. All my stuff is like buried still

592
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: right now, I don't have I haven't made my room yet.

593
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

594
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 3: I think that's when you have kids, then you start

595
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: making your room. So I just had a kid a

596
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: couple of years ago, so I'm going to have a

597
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: You'll have it, yeah, eventually, but most my stuff's all buried.

598
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you know, Jersey so like the like young

599
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: and cano, Hey, exactly what dad was doing. And we

600
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: didn't get to talk as much about your other two

601
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: years in Atlanta as I would have liked.

602
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 3: But those are tough years.

603
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 1: They were tough years, but right, but from a personal perspective,

604
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: like as a receiver, ninety nine was a really good

605
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: year for you. Two thousand was another kind of strong

606
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: overall season. Then you end up getting traded to San Diego.

607
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: But if you think about the start of your career

608
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: and then the fact that you get drafted in ninety eight.

609
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: You're playing till seven, right, Like, that's a long, productive

610
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: career where you made an impact. I'm from San Diego.

611
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: You made a huge impact in San Diego and other

612
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: places those three years in Atlanta, as like, as you

613
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: look back on your career as a whole, like what

614
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: did they mean to you? Maybe individually and obviously that

615
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: ninety eight season, you know, as a group.

616
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: Well, growing into being a professional, I mean being around

617
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: the older guys in the locker room helped out a ton.

618
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: I remember always say you can't make the tub or

619
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: the club if you're in the tub. Yeah. Archimboldt told

620
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 3: me that when I was Lester did when I was

621
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: hanging out in the cold to because I had a

622
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: bad side joint that was effecting me and I couldn't

623
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: really run around for about a week and He's like, Yo,

624
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: you better get out of the tub because you ain't

625
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 3: making the club. Like I like that, you know, So

626
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 3: that two days later I was out of the tub.

627
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 2: Man.

628
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 3: I was feeling great, but it was kind of like

629
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: growing in my you know, growth as a receiver because

630
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: like I said, in Iowa, we didn't. I mean I

631
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: had like thirty nine catches my senior year. I mean

632
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: that's what those people have now in the first like

633
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 3: five six games because everybody throws the ball. But it was,

634
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: you know, the growth of becoming a professional and like

635
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 3: learning your craft and your trade and taking it on.

636
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: Like it wasn't as big a wow as it was,

637
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 3: you know as a rookie. It was more like, all right,

638
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 3: now you need to you need to stay in this league. Yeah,

639
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: you know, you need to like step it up and

640
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: become a wide out. And you know, having Tony, you know,

641
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: we missed have not having Tony back that that next

642
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: year because he was such a huge, you know, asset

643
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: in our offense. I mean, you talk about a guy,

644
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: I mean, Terrence runs amazing routes, but Tony would run

645
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: route routes like whispers. I mean, he was so smooth

646
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: out there. Man, He's just like wow, he was amazing.

647
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: He run this three route. They'd have the stick post

648
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: and this three route that him and Chris just had

649
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: on on a dial and they would just sit there

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Speaker 3: and just play around with the dbs all day, like,

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00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: and they would call their own routes, you know, like

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Speaker 3: there'd be a play call, but him and Chris would

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Speaker 3: just there and be like, you know, just signally, just

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00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: and then you know, they had a lot of a

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00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: lot of deep balls that year. I mean they only

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00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 3: had both of them only had like sixty some receptions,

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Speaker 3: but they both had over a thousand yards like bombs,

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Speaker 3: you know. But yeah, getting that, you know, and then

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00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: Chris Callaway came in and he was our he was

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Speaker 3: our ex and then he got injured that second half

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00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: of the year, and that's when I kind of stepped

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00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: in and played. So you know that I only had

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Speaker 3: thirty two receptions. I mean I had a lot of yards.

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Speaker 3: I called a lot of deep balls being a fast guy.

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Speaker 1: A lot of touchdowns, yeah, a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of touchdowns, you know. Just I've always been like

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00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: a big, big play player, you know, always made big

668
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: plays in college and high school, and and it just

669
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, follows you in your career.

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00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: And had a great chance to play with you know,

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Speaker 3: Terrence and one of the great receivers of all time

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00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: to the league, and learned a lot from him and

673
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: just kind of like rubbed off on me that year.

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Speaker 3: Is that was kind of like my coming out year

675
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: a little bit, right, and then the third year was

676
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: a was decent. Yeah, and I moved back down to

677
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: the slot receiver spot with Shan Jefferson coming in right

678
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: because he had a long time career. Sean was great.

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00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: He was He was a fast dude too man, super

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00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: great guy man down to earth and you know, one

681
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: of the first ride receivers that actually I knew that

682
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: actually hunted, like he was a big hunter. It's like,

683
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: did you want to go out and home with me

684
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: with the shotguns in the mile right? Like, no, I'm good,

685
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm a fisherman now. But but yeah, he

686
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: loved loved to hunt. You always talk about his hunting

687
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: trips and stuff. But Sean was great. Yeah, and then

688
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: I got traded, So Lanta was my It's always been

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Speaker 3: in my heart, you know, even though San Diego played

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00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: a lot of years there and had a lot of good,

691
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: good history there, Lanta has always been the one place

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00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: where it it's your first spot. Yeah, and the super

693
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: Bowl and all these guys that we met on this

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Speaker 3: team and how special it was. It's uh and it's

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00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: a place where I kind of grew up a little

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Speaker 3: bit and Ben became pro.

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Speaker 1: Wow, this was freaking awesome, Tim Do, I thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Thanks everybody for subscribe. This

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Speaker 1: was I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Mentally, you guys got great jobs. This has got

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Speaker 3: to be super fun for you sitting on talking to athletes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no complaining to.

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Speaker 3: Walk into the studio here. All the fans are out

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Speaker 3: there behind the gates. You guys come right in yet

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Speaker 3: access the players you work? Can you hit the weight

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00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 3: room down here?

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Speaker 2: You do that when they're not in there?

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Speaker 3: Jo geez.

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Speaker 1: Can't beat that. Tim, Thank you so much for the time,

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Speaker 1: and stay tuned for more guests and stars from that

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight Atlanta Falcons football team. Uh, stay tuned

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Speaker 1: for that. It's coming up real, real soon.

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Speaker 3: See you