1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Mommies, a myth and Bullshit, a radio 2 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: phonic novella Local Radio hosted by malamun Welcome back to 3 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: local radio. This is Sam and this is Mala Munios. 4 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning into Brown Girl our 5 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: I know a lot of y'all have been following us 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: since our launch in November, and we really appreciate you 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: keeping time with us. UM, So today we have a 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: lot of things to talk about. UM, it has been 9 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: a struggle to get this podcast out truly, truly. I 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: will break it down to y'all real quick. Happins you know, Um, 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: Mala has been moving, so we pushed back our recording 12 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: day for by a week. Um. We tried to record 13 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: with this Sunday night. Yeah, we tried. We tried to 14 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: record Sunday night. Our program working. You can tell Molas's sick. 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: So it's just a lot working against us right now. Monday, again, 16 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: we tried to record and if it happened, so we 17 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: were like, you know what, we just need to get 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: this done and record on an iPhone. So we downloaded 19 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: an app we edited on Tuesday, and let me tell you, 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: the quality was so bad. Yeah, we were like we 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: cannot put this out there. Yeah, just because now I 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: think our ears are used to hearing like the sound 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: quality on this microphone that we have that when we 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: heard the app. You know, we kind of have like 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: a ghost producer who helps us with our He made 26 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: our jingle and he helps us with the editing. But 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: even with the editing, it just the app is not 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: about it. Some of the audio got cut out. He 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: did his best to save it. But anyway, here we 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: are here, we are thank you for being patient. I 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: know some of y'all have tweeted us commented on Instagram 32 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: that you were waiting for this next. So here we are. UM. 33 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: We are going to talk about the inauguration today. We 34 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: don't want to give it too much attention because there's 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: so much more to talk about, UM, but we want 36 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: to know, like if did any of you watch it? 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: For you intentionally avoiding the TV that day or social media? 38 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: What did you do that day? UM? I know I 39 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: am in particularly me and my mom, we didn't watch it, 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: you know any updates? I saw reviea social media What 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: about you, mama? What how was it for you? So 42 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: I did watch the morning? Um, the morning of the inauguration, 43 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: before I went to work, I watched, you know, all 44 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: the pop and circumstance and the Trump's being greeted by 45 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: the Obamas and all of that. But then when it 46 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: became time to introduce Donald Trump and for him to speak, 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: I shut it off and I went to work. I 48 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: went to work at a rape crisis center. You know, 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: I shut him off and I went to work. Because 50 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: A I cannot stand to hear him speak. I cannot 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: do it. He's gross. He grosses me out. I find 52 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: him to be really creepy and disgusting. He makes my 53 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: skin crawl. I cannot listen to him talk. I can't 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: see the way his mouth moves, his little hand gestures. 55 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: I cannot do it. Like I have a visceral reaction. Yeah, 56 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: I think even like during the campaign, like I don't 57 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: think I ever sat down and watched more than a 58 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: minute of any of his quote speeches because I can't 59 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: do it. It's so like infuriating that there's not so well, 60 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: of course, that he exists and that he's was put 61 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: into this position of power. But the folks that are 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: the people that put him into this position of power, 63 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: that's also what really gets me. It really gets me, 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: the women who support him, white women, we'll talk for him. 65 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: We'll bring that thing back. You will bring ye mention. 66 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: But um, I do want to say, like my my 67 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: immediate reactions, um that day or the immediate changes were 68 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: the changes in the White House Government page. A lot 69 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: of pages were taken down. Yeah, the LGBT page was down, Um, 70 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: the Native American page, climate change, HIV aids, the Spanish 71 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: language been less. Night. Well, there's been a lot more, right, 72 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: Like there's I guess this is not just an inauguration episode. 73 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: This is just we're catching up and trying to catch 74 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: our breath episodes, right, because every day it's like it's 75 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: not one thing that's changed or different or it's not 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: to be defunded, but it's like a whole ton of things, 77 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: everything executive order after executive order. And I just really 78 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: want to say, shout out white ladies, and shout out 79 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: latin us and all women who voted for him, for 80 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: the fact that he's getting the violence against women all. 81 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: I was about to say, no, like I know that 82 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: affects the work that we do in particular, um, and 83 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: how we were also saying that like we're gonna bring 84 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: back like fem defense in this couple because you have 85 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: a really interested, interesting perspective on firm defense in terms 86 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: of like women and violence. Like, do you want to 87 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: share a little bit about what you your thoughts on that, 88 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: your brilliance on that on women and violence in regards 89 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: to fem defense. Yes, well, well how okay, so you 90 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: know fem defense if you listen to our last cup 91 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: people little something that we talked about. Um, is this 92 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: idea that that I've been kind of stewing on that 93 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: there's this idea that self defense as an idea as 94 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: a curriculum was started and pioneered by white women right 95 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: first and foremost. And that is simply not the case. 96 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: That idea is a historical but you see it repeated 97 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: a lot in like gender studies classes, in women's groups 98 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: who you know who practice self defense. There's this idea 99 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: that it started with women women's lib right. But I believe, 100 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: and I continue to believe and I know to be 101 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: true that self defense from defense is something that women 102 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: of color, colonized people have been practicing for decades. And um, 103 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: I think that kind of comes back into play with 104 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: this current conversation and that you have these white women 105 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: thinking that they're doing themselves a favor my voting for 106 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: this man. And he turned right around and said, I 107 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: don't give a funk about you, any of you at all. 108 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get your health care, I'm gonna get violence 109 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: against women programs. And you know, this is a man 110 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: who if you watch the inauguration, if you were paying 111 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: attention at all during the campaigns, he's an abuser. An abuser. 112 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: I mean the way that he interacts with Melania and 113 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: the way that he treats her and that dynamic between 114 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: them tells me a lot about their relationship. But there's 115 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: definitely abuse this. He's also not even staying in the 116 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: White House right the first like the very first first lady, 117 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, to do that, to not live in the 118 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: White House with the president, right, it's been telling which 119 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: is having it is? It is? And then you know 120 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: his ex wife she in their divorce proceedings in New York. 121 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: I think it was his first wife, Ivanka's mother. I 122 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: think who um you know had sworn Affi David's and 123 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: testimony about how he how he abused her and raped 124 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: her over the course of their relationship. All these other 125 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: women who have come forward, I believe all of them. 126 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: I do. And so this is a man who is 127 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: abusive on an inner personal level and now on a 128 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: global scale. And then we also know that intimate partner 129 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: of violence happens between lean your immediate partner. Now, like 130 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: if you're you know, woman, and you're dating a man, like, 131 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: most likely he will be the one to abuse you, 132 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: to sexually assault, And these problems are being defunded, there 133 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: being defended. If you are a woman in the United 134 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: States and you date men, have relationships with men, the 135 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: person who is most likely to murder you is your 136 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: husband or your boyfriend, or your ex or someone that 137 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: you maybe weren't came into contact with and said no to. Yeah, exactly. 138 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: So keeping all of that in mind that that is 139 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: a reality always, It's been a reality for a long 140 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: time that if you're a woman, you're most likely to 141 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: be harmed or killed by your husband. Keeping that in mind. Now, 142 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: with the next four years, with violence against women programs 143 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: being being defunded, it's gonna be just more women are 144 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: going to die. It's true. That's just that's what's going 145 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: to happen. I blame Donald Trump, honestly, and I blame 146 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: his family who support him and enable him. I are 147 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: also being like they're like a part of the cabinet, 148 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: aren't they some ship? Yes? During his presidency that involved 149 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: his dictatorship. During his dictatorship, Yes, yeah, Okay, Wow, there's 150 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: a lot of feelings. Really. I went to a training 151 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: at work and a organization gave a workshop on immigration 152 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: rights like what's changing now, and it was frightening. And 153 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm still in that place yeah, where 154 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, how do I navigate this for my residence, 155 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: the community I work with. So I feel like I 156 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: feel I feel less like empowered today and I'm feeling 157 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: really down today. Yeah. So I know when we first thought, 158 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: when we first recorded this episode, I was feeling a 159 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: whole lot of different ways, and like this is day 160 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: three and it's like, okay, exactly, I'm feeling like a 161 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: lot more down today. But we're gonna we're gonna leave 162 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: the inauguration and we're going to talk about something. We're 163 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: gonna leave it, leave it. We don't want to know, 164 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: stay away. But yeah, I know. But this is It's 165 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: interesting though, because this is this is the like really 166 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: the second time of recording this episode and already how 167 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: much has changed much like it's a different Copilow altogether. 168 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: And we'll also I think the energy exchange that you 169 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: and I are having is different. Yeah, we're not saying 170 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: the same things, like ideas are still there, but you know, 171 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: it's it's a little different now that it's sucking the 172 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: third day and so much, as Jane, so much has changed, 173 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: And I mean, like, you know, I think that what 174 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: happened to me, I'm really sick right now. After the inauguration, 175 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: after the Women's March, I lost my voice. I had 176 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: to take sick days I've been home. I think my 177 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: body just honestly crashed after all the stress of that, 178 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Like it was just it's just so wild to me, 179 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: and I think that it's so important now more than ever. 180 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: It's always been important for us as people of color, 181 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: as women of color, but taking care of yourself self 182 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: care in real ways is so important because we don't 183 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: have health care no more. Like that's what I know 184 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: you and I were talking about that like for us 185 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: are sometimes our self care is like really basic things 186 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: like doing our laundry and putting it away and cleaning. 187 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: And I know, like you and I are both very 188 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: much into like our spaces being our own, like making 189 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: sure that we feel like, okay, this is my space, 190 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: is right, it feels good and I don't really necessarily 191 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: want anyone else in it, right, especially at this time 192 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: when I really need to take care of my side. Right, 193 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: And we were talking about that too, right as like 194 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, dump him seventeen. That is from defense also 195 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: some defense and self care in these tumultuous times. You know, 196 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: it might be the safest option. You know, it might 197 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: be for for some women to be single during this 198 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: period of time we have planned parenthood being defunded. If 199 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: you if you have the ability or the potential to 200 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: carry a child, you know, maybe now is a good 201 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: time to be single. That's how I feel. From men 202 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: say like dump them all two K seven for our 203 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: queer listeners like the state men, but you know they'll 204 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: still experience violence and dating, like dump them all two 205 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: K seventeen. Take care of you. Yeah, yeah, okay, So 206 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk about now the Women's March. Yes, 207 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: did you go? We know you went. We saw the photo. 208 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: I know, like y'all have seen the photo instagram of 209 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: malad killing it. You. Um, so if you're willing, do 210 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: you want to share a little bit about your experience. Yeah. Absolutely, 211 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: So the Women's March, Um, I went specifically with my work. 212 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: I went with my job. We had like a contingent 213 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: that we organized, and we had our signs, and we 214 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: were marching and we were chanting, and we were there 215 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: specifically on as survivors and for survivors. We were there 216 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: to talk about sexual violence. We were there to talk 217 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: about consent, We were there to talk about about survivors 218 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: and and our needs. Um. So all of our chants 219 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: and our signs were survivor focused and survivor centric and 220 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: I was really proud to add that, you know, to 221 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: that element to the march because I didn't see around me, 222 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: I saw lots of different signs like we've talked about 223 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: before about like you know, um, pussy this and pussy that, 224 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: and you know, vagina power and all these things, but 225 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: I saw few are signs that were related to like 226 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: you know, undocumented folks or survivors or queer folks. Those 227 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: causes seemed to be more sparse at the mark, right, Yeah, 228 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: I think. Um, I didn't go. I actually took a 229 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: dance class that day and it was really beautiful because 230 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: the instructor. Is this really we're going to bring her 231 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: on the show. So I'm not going to say too 232 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: much about UM. But she like led the class and 233 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: she was like OI squid boss. So we're taking care 234 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: of our bodies, like we're taking care of our mental health. 235 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: So we're gonna dance today, and we respect and power 236 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: to the women that are marching, you know, the folks 237 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: that are marching. UM. So for me, that's not like 238 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: that's what I needed because I didn't have a group 239 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: of people that I was going with and I didn't 240 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: want to, you know, deal with my social anxiety or 241 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: like even in crowds, like by myself. You know. I 242 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: was like, if I had a safe group to go with, 243 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: I would have been down. But I didn't really have 244 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: a plan, and from what I heard, it was really 245 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: hectic just to get to downtown. My life. It was. 246 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: I saw the UM like the Metro was completely like 247 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: it took the Metro with there was a huge lag. 248 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: I know, a lot of there were a lot of 249 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: puck teaching, UM, the teaching white folks how to how 250 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: to ride the Metro for the first time. So that 251 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: was interesting. UM. There's a lot going on at the 252 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: time in downtown even like ubers were like fifty bucks 253 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: and all of that. So, yeah, it was really hectic. 254 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, the march what was cool because, um, 255 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: I there were so many people there. I was just 256 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: happy that there were so many people there. You know, 257 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: there was a good turnout. There was a very long 258 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: period of time where we couldn't march anywhere because it 259 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: was so packed, you know. Um, but that's also good. Yeah, 260 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: that's also good. But speaking of of what you were 261 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: talking about in terms of like going with the group 262 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: or with the community, you know, I think that something 263 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: that I did see is that when I did see 264 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: pockets of like people of color, it was clear that 265 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: people showed up with their folks, you know, like with 266 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: their community to represent their communities, which is good, you know, 267 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: which is good. It Um something else that has been 268 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: going on in terms of the women's marches, pointing out 269 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: the fact that there were really no arrests made. Yes, 270 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: we have a lot to say about a lot to 271 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: say about. Um, we saw not only here in l 272 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: A via social media, but throughout the country that there 273 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: were white women taking pictures with the police, you know, 274 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: feeling safe enough to be first of all, that close 275 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: to a police officer. Um, yeah, what's let's let's talk 276 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: about this whole like the notion and privilege of safety. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well, 277 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: first let me say, you know, like like especially in 278 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: terms of like survivors and stuff, dealing with the police 279 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: is such a complicated issue because on the one hand, 280 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: as far as reporting any type of assaulter, abuse, or 281 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: or receiving any services, the way that our laws, our city, state, 282 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: and federal laws are set up really requires you to 283 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: interact with law enforcement and to report if you want 284 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: access to certain services and certain help. Right. So, on 285 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: the one hand, like a lot of women, a lot 286 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: of queer folks, a lot of survivors must interact with 287 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: the police, but those interactions are quite often very abusive, exactly, 288 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: very abusive. For instance, if you're an undocumented person and 289 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: you are a victim of a crime, which could be 290 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: sexual sault or rape, like you're eligible for a visa 291 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: and to become to get citizenship, but you have to 292 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: file a police report. You have to go through those 293 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: through that like bureaucracy, like those steps. So that's that's 294 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: another traumatic event that you have to go through. It's 295 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: so layered and it's actually really shitty because the desk 296 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: officer that you talked to could just decide he doesn't 297 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: want to file a report for you. Right, So that's 298 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: actually a conversation that we could probably have like more 299 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: in depth an other time because there's so many layers 300 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: to that. But back to the Women's March, you know, 301 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: there's that aspect of it is that in my everyday life, 302 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: I see very clearly people who are very vulnerable, who 303 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: are survivors, who are is by police all the time, 304 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: all the fucking time, Like, it's very very common, and 305 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: a lot of what we do is trying to go 306 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: to the police and and getting them to cooperate and 307 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: getting them to help people because a lot of times 308 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: they're really they are they just they are. And then 309 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: the other half of it is like, you know, law 310 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: enforcement has a higher rate of abuse and domestic violence 311 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: than any other population. Like police officers abuse their spouses 312 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: their partners twice as often as anybody else. So we're 313 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: here at the Women's March, right, and we're here, you know, 314 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,239 Speaker 1: on behalf of survivors and on behalf of women. Theoretically 315 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: both all these white ladies are over here like high 316 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: fighting police officers. It's wild, and Black Lives Matter was present, 317 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, at different marches throughout the country, and what 318 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: about them? And what about all the black people that 319 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: get killed by police every year and the trans people 320 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: who are abused by police every year. You know, it's 321 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: it's just there's a huge disconnect. Yeah, and then you 322 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: know something that I think we we we both said 323 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: that we saw in our own communities or via social media. 324 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: There were so many shares of like how to keep 325 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: yourself safe out of march, so like write you write 326 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: your information on a in a sharp on your arm, 327 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: Like make sure you have like something to cover your mouth, 328 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: to cover your eyes in peace, you get to your guests. 329 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: All these preparations because in the past year we have 330 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: seen how violence the police have gotten towards protesters and 331 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: illustrators and marches very like that generally could be peaceful. 332 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: Maybe not, that's another conversation about about protests. Um, so 333 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: everyone was prepared in that way, I like having the 334 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: number of an attorney And what was it like the 335 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: majority of that marches were white women and it was 336 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: also non violent, like by days, Like what did that 337 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: tell us? You know, a whole lot a lot. I mean, 338 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: so here we have like on Twitter and on Instagram 339 00:17:54,680 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: and online specifically people of color, black people giving tips, 340 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: you know, on how to stay safe during a demonstration, 341 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: during a march, during a protest, and that preparation that 342 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: people of color took, I can guarantee like the vast 343 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: majority of the white ladies who went to this march 344 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: and their husbands and their boyfriends didn't take those kinds 345 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: of preparations, probably didn't even think that they would be 346 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: met with violence or retaliation because that's not their historical 347 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: experience me and I'm sure that there weren't that many 348 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: people in their network that even mentioned that possibility. And 349 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: to them, it was like a pro women's reproductive rights march, 350 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: the same thing, like keep your hands off my pussy, 351 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: like that kind of rhetoric. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, this white 352 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: women rhetoric. Absolutely, And I mean, you know, it's like 353 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: the fact that people of color and black people specifically 354 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: have to go to such lengths, such tedious lengths to 355 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: prepare to to just to exercise a constitutional right exactly. 356 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: Protesting is a right that is embedded in the Constitution. 357 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: I have the right to go out in march and protests, 358 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: but the fact that more often than not, if you're 359 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: black or brown, you can expect that just exercising you're right, 360 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: you'll be met with violence and retaliation from the police, 361 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: from the state, from law enforcement, from our our judicial system. 362 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: Like that's ridiculous. And the fact that white women don't 363 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: have that same fear is very very very telling. Yes, exactly. Um. 364 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: Also like shows that if folks use their privilege the 365 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: right way, like if they're actually acknowledging and deconstructing their privilege, 366 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: like they could show up to marches and not thinking 367 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: not by taking up space the last to physically like 368 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: be there, you know, like using their bodies, you know, 369 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: for folks that are more vulnerable. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean 370 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: And it was a black woman on Twitter who tweeted 371 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: and said something to the effect of, well, you know, 372 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: if this protest was full of white ladies and the 373 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: police didn't attack you, then maybe more white ladies need 374 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: to go to more protests, totally Black Lives Matter protests, 375 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, line those streets. Yes, with your fragility, the 376 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: police are afraid to tap on you know what I mean. 377 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: So yeah, because it's like, you know, the nation's like 378 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: duty to protect white women and their fragility, and then 379 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: they're delicate femininity right now, right m M, I think 380 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: we should go to a song. Yes, let's take a 381 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: song break pod caster and and and and and and 382 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 1: and and and and and um um um um um um. 383 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: And you know, moving forward with this scaffo, we want 384 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: to intentionally talk about the experience, actually read from the 385 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: experiences of black, trans and Native American women that were 386 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: at the march. And yes, yes, so, um, we're gonna 387 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it. We're gonna read, um some quotes, 388 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: like some direct quotes from their either social media or 389 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: interviews that they've had since the march. Um. So we're 390 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: gonna start with this black woman activists named Angela Peoples. Um. 391 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: I'm sure some of you have a lot of you 392 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: have probably seen it floating around. This picture. I saw 393 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: it actually on Chicama. Um. And it's this photo of 394 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: a black woman and she's wearing a hat that says 395 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: stop killing Black people, and she's holding a sign that says, 396 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: don't forget white women voted for Trump. And the photo 397 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: is so iconic to me because in the back there 398 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: are three women, you know, wearing their pink pussy hats 399 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: on their phones taking selfies, which is cool, you know, 400 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: power to the selfie. Um, but it just set is 401 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: it's set so perfectly, especially with these you know, pink 402 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: pussy hats, because not every woman has a pussy, and 403 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: not every woman's pussy or every person's pussy is pak 404 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: like I fish, you're no mind, is it? Is it right? Like? 405 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: Uh no? And also now that women have pussies and 406 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: that's not what you know, equating you know, woman's womanhood 407 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: to genitalia is wrong. Yeah, so yeah, incorrect. I love her, 408 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: I love her, I love Angela People's and I love 409 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: all the all of the activists, all the women of color, 410 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: all the trans women that we're going to be quoting 411 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: today reading fund because each and every one of them, 412 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: in one way or another, sorry it's okay, in one 413 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: way or another. At the march, they took up space, 414 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: They marked that space in history. They said we're here, 415 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: don't forget us, tony racist, and they held white women accountable, 416 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: which is something that white women are not used to. 417 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: White people in don't know what accountability means. You need 418 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: to get over it. You need to stop focusing on Hey, 419 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: life focused on love. Love is like unifying and all 420 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: of that bullshit. Right, So, after this photo went viral, Um, 421 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: you know who knows how like if she saw it 422 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: or who saw it or whatever. But her name is 423 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: angew People. She is a co director of an LGBT 424 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: organization called Get Equal, and The Route actually did an 425 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: interview with her, So I actually just want to read 426 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: her response to the question how was the march for you? 427 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: You know, what was your experience? So Angela People says, 428 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: it definitely felt very white. The other black women that 429 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: I talked to there, and even women in other marches 430 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: around the country felt like they were alone, like more 431 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: of the same was happening. I know that a lot 432 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: of the organizers, particularly particularly of the DC March, did 433 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: a lot of work to make sure that the speakers 434 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: were diverse, that the issue points reflected black folks experiences. 435 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: But there's also this reality that when we talk about 436 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: feminism in this country, the faces have been white. Without 437 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: an effort by white women, especially to make sure those 438 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: spaces are reflecting the diversity of women and fem people, 439 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: we're not going to make the progress we need to powerful. 440 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: So it continues, um The Route They ask her after 441 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: this march, are you hopeful that white women will show 442 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: up for black women and the issues of people of color? 443 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: Angela People says, I definitely have hope, but I don't 444 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: think it's a matter of white women becoming interested in 445 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: our issues. I need them to recognize their implicit or 446 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: complicit benefactors of systems like white supremacy and patriarchy. And 447 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: that's a problem, right, complicit and implicit. And they bet 448 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: their benefactors. They benefit from these systems that are put 449 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: into place that oppressed people of color and black folks, 450 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: and transfolks and queer folks, Native Americans, and the list 451 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: goes on. And not only do they benefit from it, 452 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: but a lot of white women intentionally perpetuate it, intentionally 453 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: them you need to get your people, Yes, that's Trump. 454 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: You need to get your people. Yeah. Yeah, if you're 455 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: a white woman, I would say that your next cause, 456 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: your next humanitarian effort. Don't go to a third world country, echically, 457 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: don't go to the global South. Go over here to 458 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: your local suburb and go door to door and talk 459 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: to your white ladies. That count of your next humanitarian effort. Yes, 460 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: your next like social like neighborhood council meeting, like whatever 461 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: it is that white people do, whatever the things that 462 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: they do for being racist and benefactors of the white supremacy. Um, hopefully, 463 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: but that is a conversation that they can have amongst 464 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: themselves themselves, right. Yeah. You know today when I was 465 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: in my meeting, like I was, I was in a 466 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: meeting with like folks that are case workers, they're representatives 467 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: from different organizations and all that, um. And I was 468 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: like looking at the white women in there, and I 469 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: was like, which one are y'all voted for Trump? Right? 470 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: Because we were there talking about how Trump is literally 471 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: terrorizing her, how his administration will literally terrorize our communities, 472 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: are immigrant communities especially, And they were like, we know 473 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: some white women in there, and I was just like 474 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: feeling like one of you had to have voted. I'm 475 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: positive because if there's thirty of us in this room, 476 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: one of you, I'm positive voted for him and um. 477 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: And it made me really outset, you know. And yes, 478 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: so you need to White people need to get the people. 479 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: You know, we as Latinas, like we need to get 480 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: our people because there are there are some single issue 481 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: voters that voted for Trump. Yes, you know, especially I 482 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: think a lot of Latinos voted on the abortion issue. Right, 483 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: They voted on the abortion issue, and they probably always 484 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: vote on the abortion issue. Did we say I think 485 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: you had mentioned it was fourteen percent. I think you 486 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: mentioned it was sixteen percent. Did it was in the teens, 487 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: somewhere higher than sixteen yeah, Iven it should have been. 488 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 1: Black women voted for Hillary. Yeah, I'm positive Hillary did 489 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: not represent all of their values and what their community needs, 490 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: but they did it, you know, they voted them. Meanwhile, 491 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: white women voted for Trump. Yeah. And let me say 492 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: this that at my polling place, which is a church 493 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: not too far from where I live, the well, I 494 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: went to two polling places because I plucked up the 495 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: first time when I went to the wrong place, and 496 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: then they sent me to the right place, the hot miss. 497 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: But I'm like, let me go vote. Um. The polling 498 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: workers at both locations. The first location, they were all 499 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: older black women. They're working making sure people are voting. 500 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: At the second location, it was a mix of black women, 501 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: black men, and Latinos who were working the polls. Right, 502 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: So it was people of color making sure that people 503 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: were there and that the Democratic process was actually taking place, 504 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: and I just want that to be known. I mean 505 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: not to like deflect too much, but I know that 506 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: there were cases of people being turned turned away the 507 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: whole booths. Yeah, definitely, I think in the San Fernando 508 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: Valley that crazy stuff was happening. But but I've lost 509 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: my train of thought. No, yeah, that's look back. I 510 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: know that you we have more we want to read. 511 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: You have something that you want to read from a 512 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: Native American activist was present at the d C march. Yes, 513 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: so can you? Can you read that for us? Yeah? So, 514 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: the there's a Native woman her Twitter hands all. She 515 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: goes by Sydney Rain, and I'm going to read a 516 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: tweet thread that she put out after the march talking 517 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: about her experience and the experiences of the Native women 518 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: with her at the DC march. When the march begins, 519 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm surrounded by white women holding up signs like smash 520 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: the patriarchy, keep your hands off our pussies, and so forth. 521 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: We begin our first chance, Minnie Wee Cony water is life. 522 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: White women look confused, white women staring at us or 523 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: just acting oblivious like we weren't there. And it makes 524 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: me so so fucking angry to type this the tone 525 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: deafness of all these angry white supremacists around me, their 526 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: lack of care. Our lives as Indigenous women are intersectional 527 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: by necessity. Every day it's life or death for us 528 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: in the settler colonial terrorist regime. I'm crying now typing this. 529 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: One day it's a pipeline. The next our babies are stolen, next, 530 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: our sisters go missing, next were killed by cops. And 531 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: then marching and trying to hold my head up and 532 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: remembering my Muskoky ancestors who marched on the trail of 533 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: tears for me to be here. The whole time, I 534 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: am treated by non natives and especially white women, like 535 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: a marching spectacle, while they refuse my flyers like a 536 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: real life museum. They only stopped to pay attention to 537 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: us when we drummed and sang our Women's Warriors song round, danced, 538 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: or to say we have pretty costumes. These white women 539 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: are saying, this is just the beginning. Our ancestors have 540 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: marched since fort two. This is our whole lives, This 541 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: is who we are. White women do not understand the 542 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: complexities of our reality as children of this grandmother Earth. 543 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: Indigenous to her lands, and they don't want to. White 544 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: women want to call me their sister, But my sisters 545 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: don't touch me or my regalia without my permission. They 546 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: don't speak over me. You white woman with a transphobic 547 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: sign about your your vagina being your womanhood, white woman 548 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: that is a colonizer on my land, are not my sister. 549 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: The opposite. You want me to hold hands with you 550 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: and sing Kumbaya and be equal while you stand on 551 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: our ancestors graves. And this is your first march. You 552 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: white women are complicit in my genocide. And until you 553 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: abandon your white fragility and acknowledge this, you're a white supremacist, 554 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: not a feminist. What did I learn from the way 555 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: white women treated Native women at Women's March? That we 556 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: aren't human, just museums of a past. You know nothing 557 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: about two white women. We are living museums of a 558 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: past you refused to acknowledge, refused to learn about, treated 559 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: as a guest on our own ancestral lands. White feminists 560 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: treat us like we are burdens or that we are 561 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: divisive because it's inconvenient for you to let go of 562 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: your whiteness, who heavy heavy but important. I love how 563 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: she says, you know, our white women are saying, this 564 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: is the beginning. Our ancestors have marched since fourtwo, this 565 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: is our whole lives, this is who we are. And 566 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: that's then to send to say that that is what 567 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: the defense is. We've been doing this wherever y for century, 568 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: not the beginning, Like folks have not started to organize 569 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: now because Trump was elected. Yeah, it's organizing during Obama 570 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: lay like hundreds of years always. Folks have always organized 571 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: people of people that have always been organizing. Yeah, and 572 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: it's infuriating when like, oh, I was talking to like 573 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: my co workers about this. We were texting about this 574 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: today because some horrible man went and wrote an opinion 575 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: piece that the l a time when I had n't 576 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: published where he was talking about. You know, there you 577 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: have to look at the bigger picture. The women's March 578 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: focused on you know, small issues and this and that exactly. 579 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, first of all, I know I was there 580 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: not talking about small issues. We were there talking about 581 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: sexual violence, like like life and death ship like for real, 582 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: like in real ways, you know, And I think that 583 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: has a lot to do with what you just said, 584 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: because I'm pretty sure that after every single march or 585 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: protest led by women or people of color ever in history, 586 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: there has always been a crop of really uninformed and 587 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: really loud white men who are going to criticize and say, oh, well, 588 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: you're not focusing on the right ship, or why are 589 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: you just talking about this now? Like there's so many 590 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: people who have this really short view of history and 591 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: every protest it's like they just were turned on that 592 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: day and they think like, oh, this is the first 593 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: protest ever, I'm gonna respond to this, you know, like 594 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: they have such a historical view and it's infuriating. Yeah, 595 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: but any rain and thank you broke it down so 596 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: many real ways and like so real to her experience 597 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: as a Native American women on colonized land, you know, 598 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: and we exactly and we didn't get to we didn't. 599 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: It's it's a long thread. So if you have Twitter 600 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: or you're on social media, like I'm sure that you've 601 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: seen it, it's going around. But the beginning of the 602 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: thread she is, you know, she thinks her community that 603 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: she was with, she thinks the Native American women that 604 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: she was with, her sisters, or like making it a 605 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: safe space um within their prayer circle and that, but 606 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: also acknowledging that when she stepped out of it, it 607 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: was no longer safe. She was a museum, she was 608 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: a spectacle. She was subhuman, you know, she was looked 609 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: at the way white women look at people of color 610 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: and black folks. Right. Absolutely, So, thank you Sydney Rain 611 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: and to all the Native women who showed up, all 612 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: the trans women who showed up, the black women, the 613 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: latinas you know, because good, I'm glad. Blame your space, yes, 614 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: And that's why we're talking about the march on this, 615 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: on this because we were there. Okay, we were there 616 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: and we were participating, and we marked our space. And 617 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: I just feel like if women of color were involved, 618 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: then it needs to be documented. It needs to be acknowledged, 619 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: It needs to be celebrated, It needs to be in 620 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: the books everywhere. So that's why we're doing this. This 621 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: is our little mark on history. Yeah, we we need 622 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: to acknowledge this point of history from our our fan perspective, 623 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: fem woman of color perspective. Um, I know that you 624 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: have another activisty you want to share with us, is 625 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: actually a speaker also at the DC march. Yes, Um 626 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: Raquel Willis. She is a queer black transgender woman, and 627 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: she does really good work at the Trans Law Center, 628 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: and she did speak at the march in d C. 629 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: And something that she talked about afterwards is the fact 630 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: that she didn't get to deliver her whole speech because 631 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: her mic got cut off in the middle, deadly, sedentally exactly, 632 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: very shady. So, you know, just to honor her and 633 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: to honor her words, um, and to honor all the 634 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: black trans women that exists, you know, like, um, we 635 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: wanted to read for Miquel Willis her speech and this 636 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: can be found on Twitter. The text can also be 637 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: found on her website, Raquel Willis dot com. Today, I 638 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: stand here as a queer black transgender woman from Augusta, Georgia. 639 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: But I am more than these labels. I am also 640 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: a daughter, a sister and auntie, a friend, a lover, 641 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: a human, a feminist. And although I'm glad to be 642 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: here now, it's disheartening that women like me were an 643 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: afterthought in the initial planning of this march. Many of 644 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: us had to stand a little taller to be heard, 645 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: and that exclusion is nothing new. Trans women of color 646 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: like Marsha P. Johnson and Sylvia Rivera lit the fire 647 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: on the l g B t q I A rights movement, 648 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: but we're quickly pushed aside. They share a common thread 649 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: with another revolutionary woman. I look up to Sobjorter Truth, 650 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: just like her. Black women, other women of color, trans women, 651 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: queer women, and many others are still asking an I 652 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: A women. As we commit to each other to build 653 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: this movement of resistance and liberation, no one can be 654 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: an afterthought. We have a chance to be stronger and 655 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: better than we ever have before. And that starts with 656 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: having hard conversations and being held accountable. Yes again about 657 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: accountability and history, market marketing or naming actually naming the 658 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: trans women, and you know Sojotor Truth and what they 659 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: did for history, how they paved the way for a 660 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: lot of activists now, you know, not only in the 661 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: Black liberation movement, but and also in the l g 662 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: B t q I A movement, you know, you know, 663 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: and and Women's Live did not start with Caddie B. 664 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: Stanton or whatever her name is, you know, like it 665 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: like Sobjorter Truth, Like that's that's law history, you know, 666 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: like wait before yes, yes, so yeah, thank you. Roquel 667 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: willis beautiful words beautiful words and then you have one more, 668 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: but do I Actually mine is not a speech, but 669 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: it's actually a photo from Instagram from Translatina activist Bambi. 670 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: She is an amazing, amazing activist. She's here in La 671 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 1: but she was at the Philly um March because she's 672 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: at creating change or was that creating page um and 673 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 1: the photo is super badass. She is holding a sign 674 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,479 Speaker 1: that says a lamamuro and it looks like a wall 675 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,959 Speaker 1: set of flame. Um. And then the cat is resistentia 676 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: Rasismo Resistance to Racism, hashtag Translatina Power, hashtags Latina hashtag 677 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: Trans Latina Coalition and La Lucha um. And she is 678 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: an incredible activist. Um. She has a documentary about her 679 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: life and what she's gone through. She has an incredible 680 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: story called a documentary is called Transit and Um. She's 681 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: also on Janet Monks HBO trans list. Yeah. So she's 682 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: like super dope. She has such a kind heart. She 683 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: actually spoke at my university's um lavender graduation, so our 684 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: LGBTQ graduation. And she is incredible. So if you know 685 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: who she is, you know, and if you don't, you 686 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: need to know. You know Wash your documentary. Um, she's 687 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: very active in l A, so she's she's got a 688 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: lot of things. So yeah, shout out to Bambi because 689 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: she is really dope. All these women, all these brilliant 690 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: women who were there, who are representing, who were holding women, 691 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: white women, white people in general accountable, and that is 692 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: so important, you know, and and we need to keep 693 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: doing it. We just have to keep doing it. You know. 694 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: We can't enable the silencing, we can't enable the erasure. 695 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: We have to speak out about it. We have to 696 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: mark our places in history. We have to create our 697 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: sign we have to create our marches, our podcast, our blogs, 698 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: our content. We have to because nobody else is going 699 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: to do that for us exactly. And also give credit 700 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: where credit is due, yes, you know, and that was 701 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: one of the main reasons. Well, well, yes, we can 702 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: talk about you know, the different marches all over the country. 703 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: But oh and we can also read like actual experiences 704 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: from these diverse women, you know, and hold space for 705 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: them and the folks that are also part of that community. 706 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah about um. On that note, you know, I want 707 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: us to to wrap up this Women's March conversation because 708 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: we have some exciting things to share with our listeners. 709 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: So we have been anxiously wanting to share UM and 710 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: we have a couple events coming up in l A. UM. 711 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 1: Two of them are in l a So our first 712 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: event is with me Vida there in Highland Park on 713 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: York And Avenue fifty two. We generally record there UM 714 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: and our first event is on February and we are 715 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: femcyeing Ay All Women's Artists Showcase. So we're super excited 716 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: to be there UM to hold space with that community, 717 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: to you know them, See, this is our first event 718 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: there gonna be so I'm real life sided. Shout out 719 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: always to the team at me v that for you know, 720 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: wanting to collab with us. Yeah, thank you guys so 721 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: much because they've been really so supportive and instrumental and 722 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: helpful and I love it. Thank you, Thank you guys. UM. 723 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: And we have another event coming up UM in the 724 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: beginning of March. So do you want to tell us yes? Um. 725 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: Bona Um, known as Bona Music on Instagram, is an 726 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: l A area. She's a singer, she's a songwriter, she's 727 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 1: a violinist. She is just a savant and I love 728 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: Bona with my whole being shout up, Banna, I know 729 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: you're listening. Her EP release party is going to be 730 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: taking place on March three at the Boil Heights Arts Conservatory. UM. 731 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if she wanted me to really shout 732 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: out the whole event on the chest, but I'm going to, 733 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: you know, come out. We're gonna SEM see that event too, 734 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: and we're actually gonna play some music. We're not DJs, 735 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: We're we're staying the lane. But you know we were 736 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: asked to day and to them. See. Yeah, Mala and 737 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: Donna are actually really tight and I'm looking forward to 738 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: working with Donna in this UM, in this event coming up. 739 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Yes, we also have one UM 740 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: events in March. It's gonna be on a Saturday, March fourth, 741 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: and it's actually in Santa Barbara, So Santa Barbara folks, 742 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: come through. It's gonna be at the it's gonna be 743 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: at UC Santa Barbara, and the Multicultural Center is putting 744 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: on a social justice conference called Collective Resistance and Healing. 745 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: Mala and I are actually going to be, you know, 746 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: performing Brown Girl Our Defense in Vivo Yai. So we're 747 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: really excited to bring that workshop into life. We're gonna 748 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: change it. We're gonna switch it up. It will not 749 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: be identical to the podcast, um, but we are going 750 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: to take the format of it. So we're really excited 751 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: to to be there and to this you know, speaking 752 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: gig at a conference at a university. So shout out 753 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 1: to Carol for reaching out to us. We're really excited. 754 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: We are taking this radio phonic novella on the road. Yes, 755 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: we're not going very fun, We're gonna be on the road. 756 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited about it. So it's also a 757 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: free conference. UM, I know spaces limited because you know, 758 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: funding is small for the Multicultural Center. I do know that. 759 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: So UM we will post somewhere the link if you 760 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: are in the area or you can make it to 761 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: the area. UM, it'll be a really dope conference. They 762 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: do really good work at the Multicultural Center. They Um. 763 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: I know the director and she is a fabulous, fabulous 764 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: woman from Sri Lanka. Yes, I'm really excited to For 765 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: those of you that do not know, I graduated from 766 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: you Sa Santa Barbara. So I'm really excited to be 767 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: going back only to go to the multi Culture Center. 768 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: It was a good place. It wasn't um. And finally, 769 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: finally we um have another social media page. Oh yeah, 770 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: we have a Facebook page now, yes, yes, I made it. 771 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: Thank you have no problem. Apparently we should be there. 772 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: So we were told like a shamga Facebook page, so 773 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: we did. Um. So we are look at that our 774 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 1: radio on Facebook. Um, we are, you know, trying to 775 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: navigate having these multiple accounts. So there with us, you know, um, 776 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: and we're on it and on iTunes now. Yes. Another 777 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: that was another like typical technical difficulty, like a potongs one. 778 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: It took us a while, but us alongside it was 779 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: a learning Chris um where we're new at this. You know, 780 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: we're learning. But we're really happy that we have a 781 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: support of following listeners because we also hit two thousand. 782 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: Shout out to you. This is our passion project, you know, 783 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: come to life. We love this. If you love it, 784 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: to leave us, show us some love, leave us some comments, 785 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 1: you know, ratings on Instagram. I subscribe on itune, yes, 786 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: because I know a lot of people were talking about UM. 787 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: They were commenting on our Instagram and saying, you know, 788 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of data, I don't have 789 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: unlimited data, and I are you guys on iTunes because 790 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: if you subscribe and you download, then as soon as 791 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: we post our podcast, I think it gets downloaded to 792 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: your iTunes so you can listen to it even if 793 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: you're not connected to WiFi, if you don't have data. 794 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: So for those of you who maybe you know your 795 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: data is limited, that's I think a good option. It's 796 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: a lot of us also, it's just got unlimited and 797 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: it's beautiful. Tata. You know, iTunes is now another option. 798 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: Whatever works best for y'all. And you know, like says, 799 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: show us some love, we love. There are a few 800 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 1: comments on there already and they have been a joy 801 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 1: to read. Yeah, you guys are so sweet. Yes, so 802 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning into another cap law 803 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: and sharing or holding Brown Girl Time Brown Gel Hour 804 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: with us. Yes, thank you for tuning into local radio, 805 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: for participating in our radio phonic novella and Brown Girl 806 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: Our So have a good have a good rest of 807 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: your days, all right, I see you next time.