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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 2: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 2: a sibling Railvalry.

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Speaker 3: No, no, sibling, raval You don't do that with your mouth, Vely,

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Speaker 3: that's good.

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Speaker 2: Oliver Hudson. Here, I'm doing this podcast right now. It's

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock in the morning, and I'm an intermittent fasting.

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Speaker 2: I know every intro is sort of becoming about my

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Speaker 2: but it's overtaken my life and maybe it's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: But it's ten o'clock and I don't eat till eleven,

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Speaker 2: although I ate at eight last night, which was an

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Speaker 2: So I'm starving. I'm starving, and you get used to it,

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Speaker 2: no doubt. But now I have to be on. I

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Speaker 2: have to be sharp, I have to be witty, I

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Speaker 2: have to ask good questions. Part of me thinks that

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Speaker 2: this hunger creates a certain heightened sense where you can

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Speaker 2: you can fire in all cylinders, and then there's a

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Speaker 2: part of me where it's like I have no My

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Speaker 2: blood sugar has dropped to zero, and I'm gonna lose

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Speaker 2: my mind. Anyway, it doesn't really fucking matter because it

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Speaker 2: is what it is, and here I am. But I'm

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Speaker 2: very excited to be talking to Kelly Stafford. She's actually

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Speaker 2: in the waiting room right now. And I'm a massive,

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Speaker 2: massive football fan. I'm a Broncos fan. But I was

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Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl. Actually, one of the Rams played

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Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. I think that was yeah, that

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Speaker 2: was yeah. I think that's when he I think won

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Speaker 2: the fuck Super Bowl. Anyway, this is very exciting to

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Speaker 2: understanding what it's like to be even a football wife,

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Speaker 2: what the community looks like, you know, with all the

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Speaker 2: other football wives. He's got four girls. I've watched a

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Speaker 2: little documentary on him, so this is this is exciting.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's just bring her in so you can listen

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Speaker 2: to her, not me. Well, Hello, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm hanging in there.

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 1: Yep? A little by a little, week by week.

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Speaker 2: That's sort of the answer I give all the time

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Speaker 2: when someone asks me that. It's never like, oh, I'm good,

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Speaker 2: It's like I'm hanging in there. I feel like we're

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Speaker 2: all sort of just hanging in there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it, it is you.

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Speaker 2: I mean I know.

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Speaker 1: I said, like, I just feel like in today's world,

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Speaker 1: we're just trying to survive, survive, life, exhaustion, all of it.

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Speaker 2: It's true, And people listening would hear this and think, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's Kelly Stafford and you know she's got the life

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Speaker 2: of Riley, or it's Oliver Hudson and you know, what

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Speaker 2: the fuck do they have to complain about? But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I hate that. I think that's total bullshit. Does it

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Speaker 2: discredits any sort of human feeling that we might have

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Speaker 2: where yeah, well there's still a get by aspect to

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Speaker 2: your emotional state, to anxiety, to whatever mental issues you

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Speaker 2: might have going on, to raising kids, to all of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, like you rather, whoever you are,

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Speaker 1: you wake up on a Monday morning and your kids

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Speaker 1: are sick, your kids are sick, You're dealing with that

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Speaker 1: like it's you have. Yes, there are luxuries in life

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Speaker 1: that I've been given through who I'm married too, which

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Speaker 1: is amazing, But I'm still trying to remain for my

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Speaker 1: of what you make of it. So but it is.

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Speaker 1: It is frustrating. People are like, well, why don't you

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Speaker 1: just hire someone or what. Well, to be honest, I

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Speaker 2: But we all know that, Well that's good. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when they were younger, when they were younger, we

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Speaker 1: unfortunately we don't have family out here, our families in Texas,

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Speaker 1: and so it is you know, a nice woman that

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Speaker 1: we've known for a very long time that will come

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Speaker 1: help us out. But again, like life is life, and

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Speaker 1: it's difficult, especially in today's age, because I feel like

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Speaker 1: So there's just I mean, we put pressure on ourselves too,

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Speaker 1: going through the same things that someone else is doing,

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Speaker 2: How old are you? How old are the girls?

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Speaker 1: I have two seven year olds identical twin girls, six

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Speaker 2: There's still like little. Yeah, they are.

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Speaker 1: They are. I guess it feels so old because that

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Speaker 1: Her name is Tata. She's amazing, but I like, am

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Speaker 2: Oh god, I mean mine are older and I'm seventeen,

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Speaker 2: But you have to have grace, obviously, like you have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but they can. They like my seventeen year

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Speaker 2: Two boys, little girl. So seventeen fourteen, my boys and

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Speaker 2: my little eleven year old rio is my girl.

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Speaker 2: as far as school goes, like, if you try hard

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Speaker 2: to develop some kind of work ethic. You know that

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Speaker 2: I honestly didn't have growing up other than that just

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Speaker 1: It goes so much further than getting a hundred on

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Speaker 1: your matest, Like I am all for And it's funny

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Speaker 1: you say that. With my identical twins, you know, they

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Speaker 1: they are good and one is good in one area,

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Speaker 1: the other goods in the other. And they do have

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Speaker 1: this competitive nature, which I think a healthy competitive nature

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Speaker 1: is good. I've never had an identical twin though. That's

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Speaker 1: a hard thing to navigate because I don't want it

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Speaker 1: to become unhealthy. But I was telling them because one

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Speaker 1: I was like, listen, you worked really hard at this.

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Speaker 1: We're going to keep working at it. But the end

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Speaker 1: that crushed me. I like went straight to I was like,

431
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm struggling with this, Like, you have four daughters. I

432
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: need you to be able to walk them down the

433
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: aisle if they get married. You know, not pushing marriage,

434
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: but if they want to get married, I need you

435
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: to be the same person I'm I'm married. I can't

436
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: like this is It's just it's a hard realization because

437
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: concussions are so hard because they just don't show until

438
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: late and so they can feel fine and then ten

439
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: years later it could be completely different. So even me

440
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: bring you know, like I can say that a thousand

441
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: times to him, but when his daughters show these emotions

442
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: to him, about just like even if you can't even

443
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: he's like gingerly walking around after a game. You know

444
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: this actually happened this last week, but last weekend. But

445
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, they're like, Daddy, are you okay? And he's

446
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: like I'm and I'm fine. He's like what's hurting? And

447
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: they will just try and try and they're like, well

448
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: maybe you know what do maybe? Oh and then we

449
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: lost and the one ones my third was well maybe

450
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: you should practice more, and my oldest were like, no,

451
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: we don't want him to get hurt. It's like it's content.

452
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: But again I will say like, no, he's not going

453
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: to retire because his daughters ask him to, but he

454
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: will take it into consent, like it will make him

455
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: consider it rather than just like keeping on going without even.

456
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, well here's here's the hypothetical. And you don't have

457
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: to dance with this, okay. If he was in Tua's situation,

458
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: how much would you step in? How much would you say, hey,

459
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: you know what, you know what I'm saying, like, I

460
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: know this is always going to be your decision, but

461
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: this is this now, I'm worried. You know, matt I

462
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: know Matthew's taking some fucking hits. I've seen him right.

463
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know he's been in the league long

464
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 1: enough to where they weren't even really monitoring it.

465
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: Of course.

466
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: That that's what's scary, is the is you know, the

467
00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: beginning of it all with Tua. I'm I mean, he's

468
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: so young, and you know, when he those concussions, he's gotten,

469
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: he's out, and so it's really hard. I know they

470
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: have We went to a doctor in Pittsburgh two years ago.

471
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: I believe he did the same thing after this one.

472
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: And they are known for just evaluating and kind of

473
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: laying it down for you pretty on hard, like laying

474
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: it down hard for you. And they did it for us,

475
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: which I was so grateful because you get a lot

476
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: of education with it all. I can't I can't speak

477
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: on being in his wife's position. I would never I

478
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: would never want to be in that position. It's just

479
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: he's so young, I mean, and I and you know

480
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: what sucks too and this is and this is part

481
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: of it. But you get a massive contract. This organization

482
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: puts a lot of you know, they just believe in you,

483
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: so they put a lot of money to your way.

484
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: And sometimes I feel like these guys I feel like

485
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: they have to honor that and give them their life

486
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: for it, but they don't. It's they don't have to.

487
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: It's you can give them all you can, but you

488
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: don't have to give them your life. And if you

489
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: continue getting these concussions, that's that's a scary thing that

490
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: could possibly happen. Ye, So, but yeah, I just feel

491
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: like they feel the pressure to do that.

492
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: Oh of course. And there's that and obviously love of

493
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: the game of course, that's yeah, that goes without saying.

494
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: I mean when you have done this all your life

495
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: and you know it's it's works so hard through passion

496
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: and worked so hard. Yeah, it is your identity. That's

497
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 2: a hard thing to give up, you know.

498
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: But they have two kids, I believe too, Like there's

499
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: a lot too. I think there's a lot of discussions

500
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: to be had there. But in the end of the

501
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it is his decision,

502
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: and I'm sure she will support whatever decision. And as

503
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: I say, it's his vision. But it's their decision together,

504
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, and and it'll sh support probably whatever he

505
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: wants to do.

506
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you looking forward to Matthew's retirement?

507
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: You see a smile on my face. Yeah, you know what,

508
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: I will miss him playing football one thousand percent. I mean,

509
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: this has been a joy of my life to watch

510
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: the person I love most to do something he is

511
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: incredibly talented at and also something he loves so much

512
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: and works so hard for. But as our girls get

513
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: older and as he gets older, it is something I

514
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: am also looking forward to. I mean, I just think

515
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: I looked at his sister last Sunday in Chicago and

516
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I'm kind of looking forward to

517
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: Sundays where I am not having like where I don't

518
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: have anxiety coming up through my I don't know, nos

519
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: from my heart and like just all of it together.

520
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 1: Sundays are stressful, they're great, Hell, they're shressle. And for

521
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: some reason, my husband loves either a fourth quarter comeback

522
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: or he loves close games. There is never like a

523
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: like fifty to ten game. We're like drinking in the suite,

524
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: having a good time. Yeah, in whatever, it is always

525
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: very close, and I feel like it's taking years off

526
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: my life. Yes, and it's not like then you have

527
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: to worry about, you know, him getting hit and all

528
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: these things. And so yeah, am I looking forwards and

529
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: retiring yes.

530
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: Well, your levels of anxiety are far exceed his.

531
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean I would have a doubt. Yes, I would

532
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: think being out there and playing, you get the adrenaline,

533
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: you kind of lose like the anxiety, like you know,

534
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: it's like pumped up, right.

535
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: And he's won and lost a lot, like yeah, he

536
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: understands what it's like to win.

537
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: And and I will say he's come a long way

538
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: when it comes to losing. And I also credit his

539
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: daughters for this. Losing a game, it used to be

540
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: like the biggest you know, the whole week would be

541
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: about that loss. We had trouble moving on or he did,

542
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, And now right after the game, it's straight

543
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: to the dog. It's like it's it's it's job now.

544
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean he knows. I think his daughters have brought

545
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: that sense to him where it is that's work and

546
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: this is life. And he's very I mean he's very intelligent.

547
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: He's got a really good head on his shoulders. He's like, well,

548
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, this is coming to an end, Like he

549
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: he's played a long ass time.

550
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: I know, long time, but I know it. I mean

551
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: he's said it's almost like a resurgence in a sense.

552
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: I know, it's almost like when you've become a vet

553
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: for this long, like reading defenses and doing all this

554
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: stuff just become second nature. And so I do feel

555
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: like that's because like this is this second surge. It's

556
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: definitely not like and I love him to death and

557
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: he would say this too. It's not like his athleticism

558
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: is getting better. Sure, it's not like he's getting faster.

559
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: It's not possible, right, Yeah, you're getting older, your body

560
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: breaks down.

561
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: And I love him so much. Running was never part

562
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: of his game anyways, but now it's definitely not you know,

563
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: so it is. I do think it's like a very

564
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: mental aspect of the game that kind of clicks as

565
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: these vets get older and then you have that second

566
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: like surge. So we'll see you know again, I don't know.

567
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: It's up to him at the end of the day.

568
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I am.

569
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be sad and I'll be excited. It'll

570
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: be it'll be yes, bit or sweet.

571
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: What about his NFL And is there like a sisterhood

572
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: amongst like wives, and I mean, is that is that

573
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: a real thing? Is there a community there?

574
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: Yes? There is, there is, there is, Yes.

575
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: Where there's like it's like almost a mini support group

576
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: without it being an organized support group.

577
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: Right right, Well, here's and this is what we actually

578
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: had a woman's luncheon thing. And here's what I kind

579
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: of like to say these women, it is people you

580
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: can try to rely on your family and and talk

581
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,239
Speaker 1: to them about these things that are happening on the

582
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: field or if they get injured or things like that.

583
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: But a lot of people in the back of their

584
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: mind are going, well, they get they get they get set.

585
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: You know, they the injury, they'll they'll heal. What what's

586
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: great about the sisterhood of NFL wives and girlfriends is

587
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: you can rely on them to understand that them just

588
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: getting injured isn't like a oh they'll heal. These guys

589
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: work incredibly hard. They get injured, their whole like life

590
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 1: like their life changes in a way. And yes, they

591
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: get paid a bunch, but that doesn't take away from

592
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: the fact that all of a sudden, you know, you're

593
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: in one place for six weeks and then you get

594
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: traded and you have to completely move your family. And

595
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: these are things that women in this league understand, and

596
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: so to reach out and talk to those women about it,

597
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: you get this sense of community of like, Okay, we're

598
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: not in and alone. These people understand where I'm coming from,

599
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: so that's really nice. And also just the fact that

600
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, on Sundays, all of our men are out

601
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: there and anything can happen, and so to rely on

602
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: each other a little bit is important. And then now

603
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm really old in that game, like I you know,

604
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: with Matthew being in the league for so long, and

605
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: every year there's a new crop coming in and they're

606
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: twenty one twenty two that usually their wives or girlfriends

607
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: are also the same age, so that sometimes there can

608
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: be not a disconnect within the wise roup. But like

609
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: I used to look at the women when I came

610
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: in that had the kids being like, ooh, they're old,

611
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, I'm trying, like again, you you

612
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: can relate to things that might not like in life,

613
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: I might not be able to relate to a twenty

614
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: two year old in general, but in this community I

615
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: can because they're going through the same things, yes that

616
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: I was, and we're going through the same things during

617
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: the season. So it's nice. You know, Taylor Swifts has

618
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: brought these eyes to the wives and girlfriends, which I

619
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: find really interesting because everyone's always like, what's it like.

620
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's pretty pretty normal. I mean, I uh,

621
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: I wake up every morning, I get kids up, I

622
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: feed them, and you know, all these people are like, ooh,

623
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: let's do a documentary, let's do a reality I'm like, no,

624
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: we're not interesting, literally not interesting enough like we are.

625
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: And I do feel like that's how most of these

626
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: women feel.

627
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Do you feel like

628
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: you are people look up to you, or they ask

629
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 2: you questions, or they you're the facto mentor not someone

630
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: who they you know what I.

631
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: Mean, you know what, I'll say this, I feel like

632
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: some women have learned what not to do through some

633
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: of the things that maybe I have done.

634
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: Really oh yes, I mean how so?

635
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: I mean just interactions with I've had, you know, I've

636
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: gotten a little fiery in the stand sometimes in the media,

637
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: and there is like there, I think there's a happy medium.

638
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that we should have to be silent

639
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: and not say anything if people are you know, hecklean whatever,

640
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: but there is a happy medium there and I've crossed

641
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: that line. So I do think that maybe they can

642
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: learn what not to do be like oh yeah, that

643
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: didn't go over well for Kelly, So maybe we don't

644
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: do that. But you know, at the end of the day,

645
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: I feel like we're all kind of just in it,

646
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. You know, we're loving the people

647
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: out there, We're trying to make it as easy as

648
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: possible for them when they come home so that they

649
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: can do their job. And then off season we are

650
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: all just wondering what's next because on any given now,

651
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: Matthew and I are very fortunate that he hasn't been

652
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: traded or you know, well he has been traded, right,

653
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: but like not a lot, or that they're just like

654
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: bouncing teams. We've been very fortunate. But most women when

655
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: this season ends, they're the future of their families up

656
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: in the air, and so that is that's tough. But

657
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: we again, I.

658
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: Was the Detroit move something you welcomed or was it

659
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: like oh.

660
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: Shit, I mean wow, you mean the trade to.

661
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 2: Trade yeah, coming to La Or was it like, oh fuck,

662
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: let's go to La.

663
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: You know what we we talked about. You know, he

664
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: went in and asked for that trade, and we talked

665
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: about it before and it was very known like okay,

666
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: well wherever once he goes in, like we are moving

667
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: as a family. So we had to come to just

668
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: like terms with that before he even went in and asked,

669
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: you know, we were thinking Indiana. We we never thought

670
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: LA because they had just signed Jared to that contract.

671
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: And so when LA became an option or like a

672
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: front runner, it was it kind of blew my mind.

673
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: I will say one thing, like I said earlier, I

674
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: born in the South Midwesterner and now LA, and I

675
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's a little intimidating. You know, I

676
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: don't I don't know what to expect in LA. Turns

677
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: out we love it, but it it was exciting. I'm

678
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: also a very big family, Like my family's very close

679
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: and they're all in Georgia, so Detroit wasn't far.

680
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: That was the right.

681
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: LA is really far and the time change, I didn't

682
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: really understand how how much harder that would make it,

683
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: so that that's that was hard for me. It still

684
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: is hard for me being away from family like that.

685
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: But it was something that I knew I wanted for

686
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: my husband, he wanted for himself. I wanted him to

687
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: have a shot and with the way Detroit was turning

688
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: over again, over again and overhere again, and I really

689
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: thought honestly that it would be and it benefit both sides.

690
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, and I mean, look what's happened.

691
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: I know, so it is and I'm so happy for

692
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: that city because gosh, that is such a great city

693
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: and it is it revolves around sports, so it is.

694
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: It's fun to be and when when you're good, it's

695
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: a little hard when you're not so good. But uh,

696
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: those fans are passionate at the end of the day.

697
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: So as as hard as it was to leave Detroit,

698
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: now that we're here, I'm so happy because I was

699
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: just I was a little nervous, but I we love

700
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: it hearing the incredible community.

701
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: Do you guys ever talk about now? Look, you know

702
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: the Rams have you know, they got Cup and Nikua

703
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: and they got good great running back. And I mean,

704
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: obviously you guys are I mean, you're banged up, right,

705
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 2: but you've done well super Bowl. Everything's looking pretty good, right.

706
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: Is there any world? I know, you've created this other

707
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: life for yourself here in La not to say that

708
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: you've let go of your Detroit sort of roots as

709
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: far as rooting for the city goes, But is there

710
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: ever look back and saying Dan Campbell's there you've got

711
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: some ballers. If Matthew was there during this time, Is

712
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: there ever ever any talk of that of like, man,

713
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 2: I wonder what would have happened if I was there,

714
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: Not to take any away from golf, because by the

715
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: way I know him a little bit, such, he's doing

716
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: great and he's such a he's a really nice and.

717
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: His wife's incredible. I love. I'm so happy for that.

718
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 2: Not taking it away from that, but is there any

719
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: was ever any thought of, like, man, I wonder what

720
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,479
Speaker 2: I would do if I was there? Now?

721
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't think we've ever really thought

722
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: about it, because that team wouldn't be that team unless

723
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: we left because they got all the picks, they got

724
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: certain things for him, So I don't think we've ever

725
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: gone there. Now. Will I be jealous if Jared and Kristen, well, Jared,

726
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: I always include the wife because I they're a part

727
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: of it. Jared Chris said, bring a Super Bowl to Detroit. Yeah,

728
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to the parade. I want to be a

729
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: part of it. You know that would be and I hope,

730
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: I like wanted to happen for them so bad, But

731
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm human. Hell yeah, I'd be jealous. I'd

732
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: be like, that place is going to be rocking, Yeah,

733
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: and I would love to be a part of it,

734
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: kind of like the playoff game. Turns out, we got

735
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: to be a part of it, just on the other

736
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: side of the first home playoff game and however long

737
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: so it was cool to be there for it. Now

738
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: we're on the other side, so it was a little tougher.

739
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: But you know that that city is the people in it,

740
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: every everything about that place I loved. So there has

741
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: never been talk about if Matthew was there, because there's

742
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: that he's not. We don't. Yeah, he's not a real

743
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: hypothetical guy either. He hates hypothetical so I've learned that

744
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: over my years. I don't even bring up anymore. But no,

745
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: I am. I would be so ecstatic for them angelous

746
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: at the same time.

747
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but.

748
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, I think it would be it

749
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: just wouldn't be the same if he was there, because

750
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: it just wouldn't be the same team.

751
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: So switching yours a little bit through your health situation,

752
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: which I I you talk about a million times, right,

753
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: But when you discovered this brain tumor, were you how

754
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 2: long ago was this by the way.

755
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: This was twenty nineteen.

756
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: Nineteen, So man, you did you have all your kids

757
00:41:59,200 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 2: at that point?

758
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: I had three of them.

759
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: I sort of read about how it happened and how

760
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: you felt like maybe revertigo and essentially basically had an

761
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: MRI and this is what you were diagnosed with. You know,

762
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 2: when you're going into a situation like that, especially with kids,

763
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: you know, how do you just deal with the fear factor?

764
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I have anxiety. I am in my twenties.

765
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: I fucking lost my mind, and then I lexipro and

766
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: then I like, I have anxiety that is definitely manageable,

767
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: but I can lose it right. There are certain situations

768
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: where I think, man, if I was ever if this

769
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: ever presented itself, you know specifically, like you're what you

770
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: went through, I don't know if it would be a

771
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: fight or flight. I don't know if something would take

772
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 2: over my body where I'm like, okay, let's just deal

773
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: with this, or if I just completely lose it.

774
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, to be honest, I went into we I take

775
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: care of it.

776
00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah you did.

777
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: I did. I mean between getting diagnosed in the surgery,

778
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: I think it was maybe like three months that that

779
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: was like weighing all of our options, meeting with different doctors.

780
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: My husband during that time was a complete rock. I

781
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: mean I I kind of took a back seat. He

782
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: took the helm of it all and just scheduled all

783
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: the appointments, figured it all out. For me going through it,

784
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: I will say like the one thing that kept me

785
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: at bay was well there was two him and also

786
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: the fact that it was me and not my daughters.

787
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: I think if it were my daughters going one of

788
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: my daughters, I would absolutely have lost it. Yeah, But

789
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: because it was me, it was just kind of like,

790
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: all right, well, this is this is the problem. These

791
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: are the options. Let's pick an option and let's go

792
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: with it. And that's kind of what happened, you know.

793
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: I just kind of put my head down and was like,

794
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: let's let's go it. If I would have lingered on it,

795
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: I think it would have made it really much harder

796
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: for me. I am more of a person that if

797
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: something needs to be taken care of, I want to

798
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: take care of it. You knew it was benign though, right, Yes, yes,

799
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: it was like ninety nine, Yes it was benign.

800
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: So the risks of the surgery were I thought it

801
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: was like a hearing loss thing. It was obviously you

802
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: had to learn to sort of you know, rediscover mobile

803
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: stuff and walking and speaking and all that.

804
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: The way the tumor was sitting, it was sitting on

805
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: my balance, my auditory and my facial nerve. So when

806
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: I went in, they were like, your balance will probably

807
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: you know, you've probably already been compensating for your balance,

808
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: but they do this test. It was like the day

809
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: before the surgery, and it turns out my brain had

810
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: not compensated at all for the balance. So then they

811
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: made me very aware, like you're gonna have to relearn,

812
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: you know, the basics. My husband said. The first ninety

813
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: came and saw me after the surgery because they wiped

814
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: out my balance on that side that they sat me

815
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: up and I was, you know, I couldn't sit up

816
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: on my own. I was screaming that I was falling

817
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: and it was and I think it really that scared Matthew.

818
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: He was like, that was really, you know, just like,

819
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: holy shit, this is gonna be a lot harder than

820
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: maybe we both thought. Afterwards, and then you know, the

821
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: hearing it's muffled. It's fine, though I still have it

822
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: like that. Doctors and doctor Thom said, at U of

823
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: m is incredible. He took his time with me, which

824
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for. And then the facial as shallow

825
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: as it sound, was a huge deal to me because

826
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, if I can't hear, I can still live,

827
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: like I feel like I could live a very normal

828
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: life if I can't hear in one ear and can

829
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: hear in the other, But you change completely what I

830
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: look like. Yeah, and Toya, it would be a complete

831
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: Bell's paldy on my right side. That would that would

832
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: be tough. And so with the reason we picked that doctor,

833
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: not only had he done a ton of these surgeries

834
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: on this particular type of tumor, but he said, you know,

835
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: if it's sticky, if it's you know, if it's hard

836
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: to get off your facial nerve, we're gonna leave some

837
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: of it because I don't want to create that Bell's

838
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: paldy and wipe out that nerve. So it was, you know,

839
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: the whole process was very well done thanks to my husband,

840
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: like getting to the surgery and getting out of it

841
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: and rehabbing and all that. But again, like I I

842
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: the fight or fight, Like I was like, we're fighting,

843
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna we're gonna get through it, and

844
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it quickly. Because I, especially with my

845
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: three kids, I was like, I can't sit here and

846
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: think about this when I've read I think they were

847
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: not even two and a couple or a few months old,

848
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: my daughter, and so I was like, I this is

849
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: more important to me than even taking the time for

850
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: this out, Like let's just let's figure it out, let's

851
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: move on.

852
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's true. And look, if this was

853
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: going to happen, which it did, but if it if

854
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: it was and you were to have children, you almost

855
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: couldn't ask for a more perfect age in the sense

856
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: that they're not afraid. They're cognitive enough to know what

857
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: the hell's going on, you know what I mean. So, yeah,

858
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: it's not in their memory. There's no fear that Mommy's

859
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: you know, going to look like this or not gonna

860
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: make it or anything.

861
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: Yes. And my husband with them, you know, with my

862
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: almost two year olds, he was like, I'm going to

863
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: teach you how to whisper because we didn't know if

864
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: I would have my hearing or not. So he was like,

865
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: if you do, like have your hearing, I want them

866
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: to you know, kind of be the ones to tell

867
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: you in a way, not that this is what happened,

868
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: but they learned. They like whispered I love you always

869
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: in my right ear before before the surgery and then

870
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: after the surgery, and so it was kind of like

871
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: a really cool moment of I could hear them before

872
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: and I could still hear them after.

873
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 2: Oh it's great. Was there was there any was there

874
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: of any risk of like of not making it.

875
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it's brain surgery, that's what I mean.

876
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

877
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was twelve hours long. When they went in.

878
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 1: I had an artery sitting in the in an odd place,

879
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: which is so crazy because that doctor did a whole

880
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: dissertation on that because you'd seen it one time before

881
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: and I had it, and so they had to figure

882
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: out a different way to go in. But I mean,

883
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: you think about that, you cut too deep right there,

884
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: and that's an artery. Yeah, So like there again, it's

885
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: brain surgery. I feel like it's always any type of surgery,

886
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: you have those risks. No, there was not like a

887
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: right god, it was like an aneurysm where it could rupture,

888
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, there was nothing like that. So felt pretty

889
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: good going into it.

890
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: Did it change your perspective on things?

891
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, okay, one hundred. I mean like you

892
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: just you go, you go through anything like that where

893
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, a surgery like that, you realize why, why

894
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: on earth am I worried about the small things? Why

895
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: am I sweating it? I mean, what's important is my home?

896
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 1: Who's in my home? My kids, my husband, those relationships.

897
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: I would say it made for sure our family dynamics

898
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: so strong. Matthew and ized marriage so strong when you

899
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: have again, like when you're relying and I my family, Yes,

900
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: they came up. My mom was a rock star, but

901
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: Matthew was my main caregiver. And so you go through

902
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: something like that in a marriage, and it just you

903
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: really realize how much one you rely on one another,

904
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: how much you respect one another and grateful for one another.

905
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: It just changed, It changes everything, and it changes what

906
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: you care about again, like football was life in Michigan.

907
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: I feel like like it even when we had our kids,

908
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: football was life. And we went through this and all

909
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden, our whole dynamic shifted. All became a job.

910
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: But while became what he did, not what our family

911
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: revolved around. So I always I always tell people that

912
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: I think it didn't happen to me. It happened for me,

913
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: and it happened for my my family, so I am

914
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: in turn grateful for it.

915
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: Is there a genetic component to this.

916
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: So this is interesting. If it were to develop on

917
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: my left side, it is genetic and I would pass

918
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: it down. So that's something that we have to watch

919
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: going forward, you know. And I begged my mom to

920
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: get tested and my dad They're like, well, yeah, yeah,

921
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: we'll do it. And they're living life. We're enjoying. We don't.

922
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: We don't want to be stressed about this stuff.

923
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, yes, but we don't have a ton of time.

924
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: But I want to talk about your podcast for a second.

925
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: Give me, give me a little tidbit. What do you

926
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: what's your deal?

927
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of like how we what we discussed on this.

928
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: It's modern parenting. It's dealing with, you know, the pressures

929
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: we put on ourselves on our kids, modern friendships, modern marriages, relationships.

930
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: There's been so much that has changed in the past. Gosh,

931
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: when did social media come about? I don't know, but

932
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: it has changed our world and therefore has changed the

933
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: way we live in our relationships and things like that,

934
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: so we we talk about it. We talk about all

935
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: of our failures in every aspect, in every relationship. Just

936
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: as because as you're more authentic, I feel like you

937
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: get surrounded by authenticity by people who are also the same,

938
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: and it becomes a community where it is not based

939
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: on you know, I just feel like the fakeness that

940
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: comes with all social media's with everything these days, to

941
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: have a community that's like, listen, this is the real. Okay.

942
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: If your kid's not potty trained by four by three,

943
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: it's okay, they're gonna learn. Like it's just like having

944
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: that dynamic of hearing someone say it that people think,

945
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: like you're saying at the beginnings, why is that I

946
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: have it all together, that everything is perfect around me?

947
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: It's not. It's the furthest thing from it. You know,

948
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: I fail at parenting my kids, I fail at marriage.

949
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so like it is I feel like

950
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: comforting to know that maybe someone that you think has

951
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: it all together is come out and say and talk

952
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: about the things that and realizing that they don't have

953
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: it together, that they can relax themselves. And it goes

954
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: both ways. You know, when I get feedback of thank you,

955
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: so much talking about this. I've been struggling, Like it

956
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: makes me feel that I have a community and that

957
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm okay if I fail. So it's about that. There's

958
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: very little football, although I do have a new podcast

959
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 1: called time Out that is you do All I do?

960
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh you got two again?

961
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor Swift. I mean, there are so many women

962
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: that want to learn about the sport that I want to

963
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: hear about game days. So that is what that is.

964
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: What is the Tailor Swift effect? I mean, has it

965
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: been massive? I mean I kind of know, but I

966
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 2: mean you you probably have a better insight honestly than

967
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: even the public. Like, has it just been a massive

968
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: impact on the NFL.

969
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: I see what y'all see, you know, with ratings and

970
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but with how many women who have

971
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: come up to me who have never ever cared at

972
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: all about learning about football and asking me questions. And

973
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: let me tell you something, I'm all for the questions,

974
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: but in the middle of the game, don't ask me

975
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: a quote. Yeah, I'm not here to teach you. And

976
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: like I'm making yeah, so I'm making sure my husband

977
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: is surviving so that I don't have time for But

978
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: it is very apparent that she has had a very

979
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: large scale effect on the women that are now getting

980
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: wanting to get involved, which is great. I think that

981
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: is great and it's great and now I have two podcasts,

982
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 1: So thank you so much, Taylor.

983
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you seem and then we'll get out

984
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: of here. But you seem like a very sort of

985
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: unfiltered person who's going to say what they think and feel.

986
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 2: You do have a husband who is, you know, somewhat

987
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: of a celebrity, even if it's L A A. He's

988
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: a Z list, but I still think he's a C.

989
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: You know, I'm working my way from like a B

990
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: minus to a B plus, you know what I mean?

991
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: In my world. In my world he's fucking a.

992
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: Oh he's very sweet.

993
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: But but do you have to watch what you say?

994
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 2: Or is Matthew just like whatever, babe? Like go ahead?

995
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: You know what. There are some times where I've put

996
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: my foot in my mouth and we've had a discussion

997
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: about it. I would say, if it at all ever

998
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: affects the locker room, that's a problem. And that's happened

999
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: one time. I will never do that again because that

1000
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: was I mean, I was like, oh man.

1001
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 2: You got to turn a little bit and all of

1002
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: a sudden he's catching.

1003
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: Yes, it was horrible, so like, yes, don't touch the

1004
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: I think it are what we have agreed on is

1005
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: don't touch the locker room. And other than that, you're fine.

1006
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1007
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: He also knows that I'm not going to go out

1008
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: there and say, uh, certain things like that might sell

1009
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But there is that that

1010
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: is the one thing where he's like, you know what,

1011
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: let's let's keep that at in the home and then

1012
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: everything else is fine. So yeah, it is. I I do.

1013
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: I I'm very honest about a lot of things in

1014
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: my life because I feel like I'm very content as

1015
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: to where I am now. And once I do feel

1016
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: like once you reach that that you can be vulnerable

1017
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 1: and honest and admit failures and admit things you've done

1018
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: that maybe you could want to want to take back. Now.

1019
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: Society has a problem with accepting that kind of stuff

1020
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: these days, but it's who I am and I'm not

1021
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not going to change that.

1022
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's great. Yeah, well this has been a blast.

1023
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll see it so far. You know, I'm a

1024
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: Broncos fan. I don't know if the Broncos play the Rams.

1025
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

1026
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: Congrats on your big win.

1027
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: I know it's a win. That was a great win,

1028
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 2: very very ugly ass game. But whatever I.

1029
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: Mean doesn't matter. W win win, and.

1030
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: You know, and you know there, maybe this is a

1031
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: season where we turn some things around. Bo looks good.

1032
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: I think he's going to you know, he's going to

1033
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: move into himself. I think he looks like a professional

1034
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: quarterback though, you know what I mean, He's played a

1035
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: ton of college games, so he Yes, there's a poise

1036
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: about him. Let's see.

1037
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 1: Yes, and then these young guys need time. I feel

1038
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: like people forget that this is a whole different ball

1039
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: game they're playing. Yes, I mean it is wildly different

1040
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So these guys need some time.

1041
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 2: These I feel for Tampa and the Jets. Those are

1042
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: two really good wins. Let's see what happens moving forward.

1043
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: I didn't know you'll beat Tampa and Tampa the week before.

1044
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: That's a huge win. Yeah, wow, good for you guys.

1045
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so you know, we'll see. But I don't know.

1046
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: Does Denver play I.

1047
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: Don't think so.

1048
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1049
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: So maybe Matthew have to play one more year so

1050
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: that maybe they'll play that division.

1051
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: Well, I'll come, I'll be it so fi Anyway, I

1052
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: love going to the games.

1053
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: But well i'd love to see you.

1054
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been a blast. I appreciate it.

1055
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it.

1056
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, have a good week. Okay, everyone should

1057
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: go listen to their podcasts. Probably awesome, honestly, really fun,

1058
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: so insightful, so honest, so unfiltered. You can tell, you know,

1059
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: she just speaks her truth and which how she feels.

1060
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: And she has just such amazing insight being a part

1061
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: of the league for this long, you know, dealing with

1062
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 2: her husband going to war every Sunday and hopefully he

1063
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: comes home not dinged up for girls. I mean, yeah,

1064
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: there's a lot going on there, but they seem to

1065
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: handle it amazing. Matthew I've never met, but I've seen

1066
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of footage on him. He just looks like

1067
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: the best dad ever. Anyway, that was fun. I'm gonna

1068
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: go pee like