WEBVTT - S1 Episode 5: Bigger Than A Game

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<v Speaker 1>Drafted as a production of tree Fort Media, Clutched Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Group and I Heart Radio. Okay, I'm having get my

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<v Speaker 1>camera and yeah, you need to uh, you're right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm kind of I need to get on

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<v Speaker 1>in the lifetime thing. You know, I'm missing concent Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to draft It. In this fifth episode, we're checking

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<v Speaker 1>in on cornerback Bryce Hall. Hold on, I'm missing you.

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<v Speaker 1>Get this fade though, hold on, hold on, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>let me get it right real quick. Whose girlfriend and

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<v Speaker 1>Zelville jun is making a documentary about his draft process.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever is listening to this, I'm telling you, the fade

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<v Speaker 1>is everything in a change in life. I mean I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like in the background like Copers, just like Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now he's doing yeah, and we're going to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>two other NFL hopeful for Kutap. I know growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>it could have been easy for me to um give

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<v Speaker 1>up and kind of just accept my reality is what

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<v Speaker 1>it was instead of trying to recreate it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>really left somebody else take away fifty yards worth the

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<v Speaker 1>work for me, just to make him feel better. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I cheated myself in this process and like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never get over that. Never again. We're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>how the challenges they faced and overcome have shaped them

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<v Speaker 1>into the men who are now knocking on the door

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<v Speaker 1>to the NFL. So what's the platform today? So right now,

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<v Speaker 1>right now? So I'm first off, I'm about to do

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<v Speaker 1>these ankle exercises to get right. We're about to get

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<v Speaker 1>a little snacking, going for a little run. After we

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<v Speaker 1>come back, we're gonna eat some more food, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna just chilling to the draft that I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about watching the Last Dance you know, shout out Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan's he got the major keys to greatness. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to apply some of the things I learned

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<v Speaker 1>in the Last Dance documentaries so we can make my

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<v Speaker 1>own Last Dance run whatever you call it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. As the draft approaches, it's Enzel who

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<v Speaker 1>carries a lot of the weight in her relationship with Bryce.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll carry the kettle bell. Are you sure

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<v Speaker 1>he's strong enough? Boy? I lived you lift the kettle bell. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I'm strong. You're right. Maybe I can work out

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<v Speaker 1>with this deal bell today, do a little bit of squats.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll change in life for real. You might get a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger button than me after that rail. All Right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna just let you think that right now. She may

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<v Speaker 1>be Bryce's part time documentarian, part time trainer, and full

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<v Speaker 1>time girlfriend, but Enzel also happens to be a great

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<v Speaker 1>athlete in her own right. And they scored right back

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<v Speaker 1>and trick it has check it up three one league

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<v Speaker 1>and so Bill Jill. She was an all a CEC

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<v Speaker 1>field hockey player at the University of Virginia, where she

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<v Speaker 1>met Bryce as a senior. Alright, I'm on my hit

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<v Speaker 1>you you've been too far out of the game. Huh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean look when I go around, I don't round

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<v Speaker 1>the hills. I woke the hills and unfet dies. Right yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, let me give a little context for that. Listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>We're just on a little nature job right now. It's

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<v Speaker 1>twelve five and we just need to get some fresh air. Walked.

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<v Speaker 1>Only five months ago, Bryce had surgery on his broken

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<v Speaker 1>ankle and torn ligaments, so running with his girlfriend like

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<v Speaker 1>this wasn't an option. So I'm running get you, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you need to go to an if I

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<v Speaker 1>can keep Yeah, I ain't trying to die today. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a therapeutic run. Just get a little movement

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<v Speaker 1>to get the least cast it out. I just got nice,

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<v Speaker 1>just same right fact before getting hurt, Bryce's trajectory seemed

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<v Speaker 1>clear my sophomore year going into my junior year, I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember when I was at a place where everything

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like everything outwardly looked great. I had played

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<v Speaker 1>my freshman year. I had a chance to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL my junior year if I did really well

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<v Speaker 1>that year, And I just remember just kind of questioning

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<v Speaker 1>why I was doing what I was doing, like what

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<v Speaker 1>my purpose was, because I felt like I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in like a law, like I knew what my

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<v Speaker 1>dream was, but I didn't know like necessarily, like why

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<v Speaker 1>fully I wanted it. And the thing is like every

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<v Speaker 1>day in practice, our coaches job and their goal was

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<v Speaker 1>to create those situations where they would push us to

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<v Speaker 1>the limit. Every day I'd be putting my body on

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<v Speaker 1>the line going through tough training, and my coaches they

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<v Speaker 1>were getting on us every day, yelling and just really

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<v Speaker 1>getting on us mentally. And I remember thinking, when you

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<v Speaker 1>go through difficult situations, if you don't have a purpose

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<v Speaker 1>or a reason why to push through those certain situations,

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<v Speaker 1>It's very hard for you to to work through those situations,

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<v Speaker 1>to overcome them and come out on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't have a purpose or meaning for why

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<v Speaker 1>you must go through it. And I was questioning, like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this really something I want to do for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of my life? Like how dangerous we know the

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<v Speaker 1>game of football is, with concussions all that stuff. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>putting my body through hell every day in practice, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, you know, like is this really worth it?

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<v Speaker 1>A once obvious path to success was thrown into question

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<v Speaker 1>after that software season, Bryce walked away from football. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a very unique approach at the University of Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>and so our program is very, very challenging. That's Bronco Mendenhall,

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce's head coach at the University of Virginia. I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>it took Bryce to a sophomore year at the question.

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<v Speaker 1>My goal is actually to have each of our young

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<v Speaker 1>people uncover why they would be playing as soon as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>to make things so significant, so challenging that once decided,

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<v Speaker 1>there's clarity on how come. And so Bryce moved from

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<v Speaker 1>receiver to defensive back. Here comes a brand new coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 1>None of whom recruited him, nor did he know in

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<v Speaker 1>a program to expects more than I think anyone might

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<v Speaker 1>even think it is reasonable. And so here's all of

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<v Speaker 1>this commitment, here's all of this effort, here's all that's

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<v Speaker 1>being required, and certainly why now, why would I do this?

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's actually pretty normal and it was an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing though the transformation once the clarity and the choice came,

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<v Speaker 1>is this something I really want to do? Rice then

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<v Speaker 1>took that, internalized it, and then he wrestled with it.

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<v Speaker 1>The dream that formed in the far reaches of Bryce's mind,

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<v Speaker 1>the dream he visualized in a picture in kindergarten when

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<v Speaker 1>he told his teacher that he wanted to play football,

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<v Speaker 1>was still there, but fifteen years later he lost some

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<v Speaker 1>of the motivation to achieve it. The best gift I

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<v Speaker 1>could give Bryce Hall isn't the football mastery or that knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the defining moments, or the possibilities to have the

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<v Speaker 1>defining moments. So before he leaves college, he's ready and

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<v Speaker 1>much more certain and clear about what he wants, who

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<v Speaker 1>he is, and how we'll navigate the world. After he

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<v Speaker 1>left the team, he searched for something to give him

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of direction, but he didn't know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>that was. He was empty inside waiting to be filled,

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<v Speaker 1>but with what he no I didn't really have a

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<v Speaker 1>strong relationship with God at the point, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of searching, like is this really what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be doing. I think that's where I leaned

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<v Speaker 1>in to where my faith became so strong, because I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like in in those times where I was just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of seeking and like is there more to this

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<v Speaker 1>and why I'm doing this? And I felt like God

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<v Speaker 1>just placed this burden on my heart to like that

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<v Speaker 1>he has a purpose and the plan for me, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily for me, but it's so that I

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<v Speaker 1>can be a light and help other people going through

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<v Speaker 1>these situations and knowing and it kind of gave me

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<v Speaker 1>purpose as to why I was playing the game of football.

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<v Speaker 1>He discovers a sense of purpose bigger than money or fame,

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<v Speaker 1>and he rejoins the Cavaliers one week before his junior year.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like with the game of football is preparing

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<v Speaker 1>me for whatever I have coming after that. How Like,

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<v Speaker 1>football teaches me so much about life and at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, football is just taking me places where I

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<v Speaker 1>never thought I could go and meet people in different

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, and it's something I love to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a gift and I really want to utilize this time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like I'm learning so much from the

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<v Speaker 1>game of football to make a difference to people that

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<v Speaker 1>come behind me, you know, the younger generation and even

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a really dark industry, just sports and entertainment.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I can be a light in that industry

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<v Speaker 1>and just be a positive inspiration for people that come

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<v Speaker 1>after me, I think that gave me extra juice. Like

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm playing this game is it is bigger than

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<v Speaker 1>just me. But like I can endure those things because

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<v Speaker 1>I know, like God has prepared me for this, He's

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<v Speaker 1>called me to do this, and there's something bigger that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm playing for and not just myself. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>move past just yourself, I think it gives you way

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<v Speaker 1>more like purpose and meaning. Then the injury after discovering

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<v Speaker 1>his mission a blind siding setback in the Miami game,

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce Hall is hurt and that's not good for Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>because Bryce Hall is one of their very best players.

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<v Speaker 1>They got that air cast whatever you wanna call it,

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped around his lower left leg, ankle. We're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to show you that the injury is not pretty quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia sideline Bryce Hall, an amazing kid, thought about going

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<v Speaker 1>to the NFL last year, prayed about it in the

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<v Speaker 1>off season, decided to come back. So our thoughts are

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<v Speaker 1>with one of the best players in college football. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the course of my career UM, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that has an increasingly difficult toll is when a

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<v Speaker 1>player gets hurt because most of them have recruited and

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<v Speaker 1>gotten to know and our program is so challenging and difficult,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've contributed and worked and and remained dedicated. And

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<v Speaker 1>then in Bryce's case, you just take all of that

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<v Speaker 1>and then just turn the dial to eleven, right, like

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be a new category. And and I

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<v Speaker 1>actually had him contributing on punt return, So this wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive snap. This was a special team snap. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the world of college football, that's usually looked at

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<v Speaker 1>UM as a lesser than snap, even though it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's usually how it's looked at. And rarely are

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<v Speaker 1>your very best players UM contributing on those units at

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<v Speaker 1>the level Bryce was for us, which was the personal

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<v Speaker 1>choice UM and a cultural choice that I made to

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<v Speaker 1>put him out there. So I see Bryce go down

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<v Speaker 1>and the very first, my very first thought is what

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<v Speaker 1>a poor choice by me as the head coach to

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<v Speaker 1>have Bryce out there on that play. And so is

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<v Speaker 1>an immediate acknowledgement of responsibility of I'm totally responsible for that,

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<v Speaker 1>and and so I felt awful it would require ankle

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<v Speaker 1>surgery and months of rehab. Bryce's resolved from a year

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<v Speaker 1>prior is suddenly tested in an enormous way. I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I put on my heart that I was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to come back and all that other stuff. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I um when that happened in that moment um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was frustrating, and I think one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking was like, okay, what, like, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose in all this? And one of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>knew is like people were looking at me, especially family

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<v Speaker 1>and other people that looked up to me. They were

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<v Speaker 1>going to react how I reacted, you know, if I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna a fit and you know, act like I

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<v Speaker 1>was the victim and just like sob which I had

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<v Speaker 1>the right to do, they were gonna follow in that lead.

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<v Speaker 1>I think knowing that I was just kind of sitting

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, Okay, what's the purpose and all this?

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<v Speaker 1>I truly believe God works everything together for our good

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<v Speaker 1>and that he never causes bad things like these to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but he can use them for our good. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember trying to figure out, like what is the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose and all this, and honestly, like so much good

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<v Speaker 1>came out of that, you know, bad situation, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's helped prepare me for what I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>into now we'll be right back right studies his life

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<v Speaker 1>the way other players analyze game tape, trying to use

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<v Speaker 1>every experience as a teachable moment, trying to learn from

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<v Speaker 1>any setback and use it to create his carefully planned future.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta show our children this stuff. That's true. That's true,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look back to trying that's my mom doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like to watch my video. She says, it's sad to see, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like my kids growing up. Yeah, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be with him the whole line, so it won't

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<v Speaker 1>be like you know what I'm saying. I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>the other day, just being excited about starting like a

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<v Speaker 1>legacy for I got a family, and it's like we

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<v Speaker 1>get to start like a generation line for years and

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<v Speaker 1>years and years to come. Probably we can design how

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to look, you know. Yeah, like you're controlling that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that turned back. Should we turn back? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Even after we're are you dead and gone? It's are

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<v Speaker 1>we It's like that generation that's just gone on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if I it's solid enough. Yeah, family, cute little babies,

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<v Speaker 1>bro our baby, they got wet. They we gotta protect them.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't no, but anybody too, you know anywhere. We do

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<v Speaker 1>want thishere anywhere anywhere. And it's not like build a

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<v Speaker 1>family or just like beat like go to have a

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<v Speaker 1>vacation spot when I'm done, And I'm not telling you both,

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<v Speaker 1>so like where would you spot with like a nice

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<v Speaker 1>house river? But then also where would you want to

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<v Speaker 1>build your family? And there's no restrictions. It's like you

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<v Speaker 1>have a nice you have everything you ever wanted in life.

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<v Speaker 1>Where would you want to sell? That sounds good? That's

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Well, I lived in Kansas when I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in Kansas, Open in Park, Kansas. I love that

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<v Speaker 1>people in the Middlewest so friendly. It's a nice slot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the center. Like granted it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the best weather all year round. But exactly, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what this postestenither and so I'll take that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's beautiful. I loved it. I love like and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like I feel like it's a great place

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<v Speaker 1>to raise a family in Kansas. Like I love that

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was it was slotting for me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna run this hill. Stop. For Bryce, the loss

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<v Speaker 1>of his mother in fifth grade, the loss of his

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<v Speaker 1>faith in his life's direction in college, even the potentially

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<v Speaker 1>we're ending injury this past season, all heels he had

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<v Speaker 1>to climb, mountains he had to scale, each with a

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<v Speaker 1>differing degree of pain, moving him towards a purpose that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe taking shape. It's just the right time. Why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>playing this game is is bigger than just me. I

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<v Speaker 1>can endure those things because I know like God has

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<v Speaker 1>prepared me for this, He's called me to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's something bigger that I'm playing for and not

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<v Speaker 1>just myself. And when you moved past just yourself, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it gives you way more like purpose and meaning.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I feel like I've learned through this

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<v Speaker 1>adversity and what's helped me just get through a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of tough times. Is is leaning on that coach Bronco Mendenhall.

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<v Speaker 1>When people will interact with Rice, they're gonna have this

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<v Speaker 1>maybe first impression of veteran of the league or a

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<v Speaker 1>veteran of life. And he's like fifty five years old

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<v Speaker 1>and he's packaged in this college athlete, young person now

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<v Speaker 1>professional athlete um form. It just is weight and talking

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<v Speaker 1>to the Dali lama here or like who who is

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<v Speaker 1>this person? You know, there's there's kind of this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wise old stage there, and I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>difference between intelligence and wisdom, and there's wisdom for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Brace's most difficult moments in football have brought him a

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<v Speaker 1>newfound sense of purpose, a deeper understanding of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and an unshakable faith in his path through life. That

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<v Speaker 1>horrible senior year injury created the circumstances for his relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with an Zel. That's where it gets good right here.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this. You gotta push yourself to finish this one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna feel so good after. It's exactly the set

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<v Speaker 1>that have been stepping stones to improving his life. Incidents

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<v Speaker 1>when most players would understandably get discouraged or give up,

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce used as opportunities, which is why in just three

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<v Speaker 1>days he has the chance to be drafted. All sports

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<v Speaker 1>are filled with success and failure, but in football, the

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<v Speaker 1>moments of defeat are more pronounced and visceral. Two hits

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<v Speaker 1>are bigger, injuries are more common, careers are shorter. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an unrelenting, merciless league playfully dubbed not for long Clutch

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Group Agent to Mary's Bilbo, the NFL is a

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<v Speaker 1>league in which, you know, you take the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we all know, you know, the short lived careers. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a draft every year for every sport, but there's a

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<v Speaker 1>draft in football where you're looking at two plus guys

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<v Speaker 1>coming in the league. It's such an easy turnover in football.

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<v Speaker 1>One year the Saints have Adrian Peterson and mark ingram

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<v Speaker 1>on Arosity, get Alvin Camarona third around, and two or

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<v Speaker 1>three years later Alvas only one there those guys are

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<v Speaker 1>other teams, So you know. The challenge with football is

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<v Speaker 1>a supplethetor of players, so many, so much change, with

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of new prospects fighting for roster spots, coupled with

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<v Speaker 1>the physical toll of the game, it's not surprising that

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<v Speaker 1>the average NFL career last three point three years. When

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<v Speaker 1>you see the greatness of a Calvin Johnson and then

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<v Speaker 1>you see how quickly is saying that his career passed by,

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<v Speaker 1>that's real stuff, you know, Like you saw Calvin going

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<v Speaker 1>to league and then it was like that he was

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<v Speaker 1>gone when he played nine years, you know, and is

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<v Speaker 1>thirty plus years old and not in the NFL. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>even when you've succeeded in football, failure could be around

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<v Speaker 1>the corner. Kelvin Johnson set the NFL record for most

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<v Speaker 1>receiving yards in a season, an undeniable superstar, and still

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<v Speaker 1>players like him often only endure for a decade or less.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a brutal, unforgiving sport, even for those at the

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<v Speaker 1>up overcoming failure, having the mental fortitude to turn every

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<v Speaker 1>setback into a step forward. Only those who can do

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<v Speaker 1>what Bryce has done will survive. I know what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to go and drafted. I knowiced like to get cut.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed like to hate my coach. I know its

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<v Speaker 1>like to feel like I'm getting the unfair treatment and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm better than the next man. I know this feel

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<v Speaker 1>like to you know, not have a job and and

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<v Speaker 1>have a kid on the way, or not know that Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do I really want to use this college degree right

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<v Speaker 1>now or what? Or do I want to keep giving

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<v Speaker 1>it a shot and keep pursuing my dream? I know

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<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff. Those are real questions and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to face that when your football career is over.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be that guy that pushes you every

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<v Speaker 1>year to explore other things, because let's be honest, men,

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<v Speaker 1>you call somebody a Fortune five CEO or a big

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<v Speaker 1>time alumni, they don't give a damn. They're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ask the phone change. Young calls, or he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>get connected, Kula wants to get connected. One of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys wearing the NFL uniform. It's a lot easier. So

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<v Speaker 1>use it while you have it, you know, because we've

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<v Speaker 1>all seen, you know, Ohio State, the Maury's Clarress story,

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen the JaMarcus Russell's at l s U. These

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<v Speaker 1>university are pushing these players out left right. Which players

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna take that platform and say, let me build

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<v Speaker 1>out resources because I don't know how long I'm gonna yet.

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<v Speaker 1>My contracts as five years, they probably cut me in

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<v Speaker 1>three and Dan, where am I? It's that level of

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<v Speaker 1>relentless competition and need to always improve that keeps players

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<v Speaker 1>on edge. Tremaine and offensive tackle from Clemson, focused on

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<v Speaker 1>this gongged pursuit of getting into the league. I felt

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but I guess that's that's that's what makes

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<v Speaker 1>me me, is that. Yeah, I wasn't high school kid

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<v Speaker 1>coming in. Oh he's gonna start. I was, what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is this kid going here? And I was skinning

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<v Speaker 1>to our un guy, like you know my challenges. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's rough, man, you know, like you can work harder

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<v Speaker 1>than everybody and I only get an answer podcast. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess that's it's part of a that's

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<v Speaker 1>you a man? Is this how blucks can you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>How much can we take? How much shake can you take?

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<v Speaker 1>And still keep going? Door survived? Have some resilience, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But how does the player develop this necessary grit and resilience?

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<v Speaker 1>How do they find the mental strength to keep going

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<v Speaker 1>in the face of terrible adversity? For Bryce, it took

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<v Speaker 1>quitting the game entirely. It took finding his faith story time,

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<v Speaker 1>Tremaine learned some of these skills from his father, like

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<v Speaker 1>we heard an episode two, but there were also other

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<v Speaker 1>defining moments for the last I don't know. Four or

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<v Speaker 1>five weeks, me and my buddies were running hills and

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<v Speaker 1>we had made it a thing on Friday mornings to

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<v Speaker 1>always run hills like our little conditioning test. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we run five up this eight yard killed. It's sucking massive.

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<v Speaker 1>First week was five, second week was six, next week

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<v Speaker 1>was seven, eight, nine. We had did this all the

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<v Speaker 1>way up and had killed us last time, just kill us.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we get to the week ten and we're

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<v Speaker 1>already and when my boys he comes, he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what if we started from halfway up? And rant? Immediately

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what the funk? If this that makes sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why do you want to do that? He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like it'd be better. I ain't better.

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<v Speaker 1>Me being the kind of guy I want to please everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like whatever. So we started from halfway and

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<v Speaker 1>I convinced him enough to back it up just ten

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<v Speaker 1>more yards, so instead of at being eighty, it was

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<v Speaker 1>probably about sixty seventy and and get starts out really

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<v Speaker 1>easy and then we're like, yeah, it's gonna get harder.

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<v Speaker 1>As I'm going I'm like, I'm breathing heavy, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the same. Bird out of my mind. I'm like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>it's even better. But the same time, I'm like, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe John has the point here. And so we get

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<v Speaker 1>to thirteen and I'm like huh. And sometimes he's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's so good and I'm like, I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not passed out tired, and run down the hill all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back to the start point. I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do this and finish it out the right way,

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<v Speaker 1>and I rub all the way up and eventually they

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<v Speaker 1>come with me, but they're like, bro, like you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>do this, this, this, And at that moment, I realized

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<v Speaker 1>I really just let these guys pull me down. Our

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<v Speaker 1>legs weren't really shaking, wen't really out of breath, people

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<v Speaker 1>had energy and all that ship, and I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I cheated myself in this process and like I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't Y'll never get over that. If you want something

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<v Speaker 1>bad enough and you won't work for don't let anyone

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.399
<v Speaker 1>else's feeling's getting the way where they feel like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing too much or you're not doing it right,

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<v Speaker 1>because then that takes away from what you want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't let you know somebody else and if they

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<v Speaker 1>want to feel good their feelings affect my work. I

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<v Speaker 1>need to get in as part of that in factor

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<v Speaker 1>I talked so much about. Even with the long one

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<v Speaker 1>we ran, I was short, like fifty yards, So I

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<v Speaker 1>really left somebody else take away fifty yards worth the

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<v Speaker 1>work for me, just to make him feel better. Funk

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<v Speaker 1>that never again, Never again, We'll be right back. Legendary

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State football coach Woody Hayes, who won five national championships,

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<v Speaker 1>used to say, show me a gracious loser, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will show you a bus boy. Clearly, how you respond

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<v Speaker 1>to the defeats, to the losses and injuries, and even

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<v Speaker 1>to the friends cheating on workouts, that's what matters as

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<v Speaker 1>much or more than your skills or athleticism, at least

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<v Speaker 1>over the long haul. Jeff what y quick questions, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>when we do this press call, I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>it as realistic as possible, like you were actually here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is former Ohio State cornerback Jeff Okuda preparing for

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<v Speaker 1>the draft in the COVID nineteen world. Normally, we would

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<v Speaker 1>bring you any family memory that you'd want to bring

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<v Speaker 1>with you to the first day. So who would you bring?

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<v Speaker 1>Who would you have with you? You were normally going

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<v Speaker 1>to call here on uncle, sister, your uncle and sister,

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<v Speaker 1>you send me like their names on the attack, because

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to mention them as just being some

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<v Speaker 1>review whatever else that would be, you know, with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a normal press conference first day, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to mention them by name, just for you, just so

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<v Speaker 1>they can get some recognition. Okay, thanks, all right. Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>is on the cusp of likely being a top ten pick,

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<v Speaker 1>but for almost every conceivable reason, he shouldn't have made

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.479
<v Speaker 1>it here by now. Growing up, it could have been

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<v Speaker 1>easy for me to, um, let's give up and kind

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>of just uh, except my reality is what it was

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>instead of trying to recreate it. Former Ohio State associate

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>head coach Greg Ciano, who became extremely close with Jeff

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>over the years, he had grown accustomed to football being

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>his escape because life wasn't easy in high school growing

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>up for him, and football was the one place that

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>he could go and I think just get away from

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.919
<v Speaker 1>everything and play a game that he loved, and it

0:27:53.000 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 1>became a bigger personal mission my mom when she was

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>battling cancer. Now Hoskins on phone with her bow uh

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 1>sixteen seventeen years So I mean for me like playing football.

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I was always more avated to like because we didn't

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.199
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of money, so I was always more

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>avated to get to the NFL, so I can kind

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>of make it easier on her financially. There were some

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 1>of the things, the experiences that I know she didn't

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>get a chance to go through because she always had

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>chemotherapy and she had to work. Her and my father

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>had separated, so uh, pretty much she was doing on

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.719
<v Speaker 1>her own. He saw the sport as the only option

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to improve his family's circumstances, to provide for his mom

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>in ways she physically couldn't, the only way to recreate

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>his reality. Marie got that officially diagnosed with cancer when

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey was too, So Jeffrey has never known a mom

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that was you know, that was not ill. He's watched

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>his mom's suffer. That's his aunt Jane, his caretaker later

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>in life. Do you expect kids like that, you know,

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>like low self esteem or loss up war and maybe

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>just dysfunctional, but not he is this. You know, he

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't grow up in a like in a typical trajectory,

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>enough in a household, so to speak. This kid has

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>a superior understanding. You know, it's just amazing. It's hard

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>to describe how he sees, you know, his world view

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>is his philosophy about life. Almost everyone would have given

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>up in Jeff's situation, assumed it was hopeless or the

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>odds were too great. Somehow, Jeff always saw it the

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>other way. Failure was never an option. It's never been

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>an option. But why where does that unthinkable inner strength

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>come from? How does Jeff become the one in a

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>million who defies the odds him seeing the mom go

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>through what the mom went through and with the stage

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>fall in Foma, you know, shows up and going. She

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>did what she had to do so many times I

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>had to let her to slow down, or when I

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>find out about something that she did and I said, hey,

0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>why didn't you tell me? You know I could have

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>usually done definitely, So the mom kept going, you know,

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>despite you know, her illness and how she felt. So

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that was new. That was a dry for Jeff.

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Marie wasn't final. Jeff is a whole look like like

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>his mom, very dreaming. Here's his sister, Karen Okuda. I remember,

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>like in kindergarten, I knew my mom was sick, but

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>of course she my mom is not going to have

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>that conversation with like a kindergartener that she has cancer.

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't probably until second grade that I really

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>knew that she had cancer, and that was kind of

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>explained to me. I mean, I still didn't really understand,

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>but I just knew that she was sick. Day to

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>day activities were a struggle for her. But regardless of that,

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>she made a priority to try to push that aside

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>and just be there for Jeffrey and I. Even coming after,

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 1>like coming out of chemo treatments, she would try to

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>come see his football games. Um, whether it be sitting

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>in the car just away from everyone because she was

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>immune compromised, A sick mother in her car alone after

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>more treatments, desperately trying to watch or listen to her

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>son's games because she isn't healthy enough to be in

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the stands That portrait of determination, a mother who knows

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>letting her son down isn't an option either. Having to

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>leave mama home every day, and now that I had

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to go to school, show up, make good grades, be

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the best that he can be out there. That made

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>his mom happy. So he learned to do that at

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>a very young age. He knew how much that meant

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>to his mom. As a young kid. No, that was

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>all he could do to make her happy. The audeo,

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, having a sick mom and being the primary

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>care provider at some point for his mom. He and Karen,

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>this kid had to grow up no much much faster

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>than the average kid out there, developed like coping skills,

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of learned how to move on like a kaid.

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Mom is stick, but I have to do this, So

0:31:56.880 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that's part of where he he lend those skills.

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>It was an environment no child should ever have to experience.

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>It was just always a tough time. I I know

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>my mom didn't want to stress Jeffrey and I, but

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>it's hard when you see your mom who's trying to

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>do everything for you, but you know, like if you

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.479
<v Speaker 1>look away, she's trying not to break down and whatnot.

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>So there were a lot of times I would skip

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>high school just so I could take her to chemo

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>treatment because I didn't like the idea of her having

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to drive you to dollars from Grand Prairie maybe like

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes, have to be in chemo for that long

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and then come back, Like I know, what that can

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>do to someone's body. So there were times when I

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 1>skipped out, um from high school just take her to

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>her treatments, and she fought a law for that. But

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I think she realized that she needed the help, and

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't afraid to give her help, like at whatever

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 1>costs that would have came to me. I know Jeffrey

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>felt the same way too. My sister. Everything I went through,

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>she went through the same thing, if not worse, because

0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>she's older, so a lot of stuff, the bad news

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.959
<v Speaker 1>she heard first, and she didn't have me to lean

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>on at the time. She had to take a lot

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff to the chin. And for her to

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>come through all that and still be standing tall, I

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>think that's something that that's really inspiring to me, something

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>that that I'll draw a lot of inspiration from. And

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that, um uh now is it just it's

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>just crazy to see that the roles have flipped and

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 1>she's take care of me all the time, and I

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.479
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'll be taking care of her. There were

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times like I knew, of course that

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey knew our mom had cancer and whatnot. But I

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>feel like in that sense, she came to me a

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>lot for all of most like her health issues in

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>terms of like going to details of what is going on,

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>just because she didn't want to. I guess have Jeffrey

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>deal without knowing that he was so focused. Marie's illness

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>was a burden the whole family carried, but mother and

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>daughter tried to shield Jeff as much as they could,

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 1>seeing something special in him from a very young age.

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Coach explains further, you saw a guy that was very

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>focused on his goals, and you know, Jeff had to

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>overcome quite a bit as a young kid with the

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>illness of his mom and he and his sister trying

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to do everything they could to help her. You know,

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 1>that'll grow you up in a hurry. Unfortunately. You know,

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.479
<v Speaker 1>all along in his recruitment, Jeff and I would talk

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>about the situation with his mother and his relationship with

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>his dad and all those things. And that's one of

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the things of building relationships when you're when you're recruiting

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:37.479
<v Speaker 1>young man, as you you know, it gets much deeper

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>than football, or at least it should. And when Jeff

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 1>finally arrived at Ohio State, it was it was really

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those parent things you know Jeff's mom,

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I think fought her rear end off to stay alive

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>until Jeff got to college, because literally it was you know,

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.240
<v Speaker 1>three or four days after he arrived at Ohio State

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>that Jane called me with the news. So Jeff was

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>in school when Mary passed, so I had to call Coodian,

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 1>whose was the defensive Cordnato at ohiost It at the time.

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.240
<v Speaker 1>He was more like a father forgot to him, apart

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>from being a coach too, was the one that put

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>used to him. She said, I think you should be

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the one to tell him, and I agreed, And that

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>was a tough conversation to call Jeff in and and

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>tell him of the news. But I felt like we

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>had the relationship that you know, after giving him the

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>bad news, we could talk through it and never did

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>you take the pain away, but try to help him

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>understand that his mother was finally in a much better

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>place and a place where you know, she didn't have

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>to go through all that pain anymore. The suffering was over,

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>her baby was in a safe, very very competitive, aligned

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.760
<v Speaker 1>place for him, and I think she then could could

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.439
<v Speaker 1>move move on to heaven and peace. And I really

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.359
<v Speaker 1>believe that's what happened. She felt like kick to hang

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>on until her baby got safely at school. My mom

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>passed away freshman in college, and uh, I think at

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>first it was football. Just like I remember when I

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>washen she had first passed away. I go to the

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.919
<v Speaker 1>workout to not just be working out really hard, trying

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 1>to get mind off of it. But then it's like

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>when I went back to the dorms, I would just

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 1>be by myself and I was thinking about it get upset.

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>So for me, I think the biggest thing was just

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>like facing it. Like I'm not not looking for someone

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to like football to take away take it away, but

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>like just kind of facing the new reality. I think

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I remember finding out that she had passed away, and

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it was a very numb feeling end

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 1>of just all this finally happened, and I just remember

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>going to sleep and just just going to sleep. But

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I think after, like Jeffrey said, you can approach the

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>situation in various ways. Some people would want to cry

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 1>and like a fetal position, not talk to anyone. Other

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>people may be angry, but I think Jeffrey and I

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.879
<v Speaker 1>we both have to sign the same mindset that when

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.800
<v Speaker 1>something like this happens, or something serious in your life happens,

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>like what are you gonna do about it? So that

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>was my mindset. It's difficult not to wonder how these

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>kids learn how to handle setbacks and misfortune even as

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.879
<v Speaker 1>they're watching the crushing loss of their mom. A mother

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>who fought cancer for sixteen or seventeen years, who went

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:37.280
<v Speaker 1>through two bone marrow transplants, who went to nursing school

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>while she battled limphoma, who drove to high school football

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>games to watch from a parking lot. Once I found out,

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>I came back to Grand Prix and took the bus

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and came back, and I was just in game mode

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>of like having to finish my mom's businesses, like kind

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of putting an end to some things, having to move Jeffrey,

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>my mom and I out the apartment, putting our stuff

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 1>in storage, as handling everything they need to be handled.

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Because I didn't wanted to spend so much time just

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I think, dealing what was going on. I just felt

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>like I had things I had to do. And once

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm in that mindset, I'm just hyper focused and I

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 1>won't stop until I'm at my end goal. So I

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>think that's what Jeffrey and I both are on the

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>same page of when my mom passed away. You know,

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>after we had spoken that day and we kinda agreed

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>that mom was in a better place now and that

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that he, you know, he could go and honor her

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.760
<v Speaker 1>with what he did in his time in college and beyond.

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think jeff really took that to heart. He

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>was always a driven guy, a focus guy, but upon

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>his mother's passing, I think he even took it to

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>another level. The way that I'm wired, why everyone in

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>my family's wired to see her go to that battle

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and pass away. It's kind of like I see the

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 1>toughness that she had in the resiliency, and I kind

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 1>of just tried to use that approach when I get

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 1>like a tough scenario going through something. I prom my

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>mom that I would graduate college. I promised her I'd

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>be top of my class. I promised her that I

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:07.879
<v Speaker 1>would get a good job after college. And these are

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 1>things that even though she's not here to experience, like

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 1>me having kids or me getting married, stuff like that.

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Like I lived my life for my mom in the

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>sense that I told her I would accomplish certain things.

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I am going to do, like regardless

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>of the cost, like what it'll do. When she had

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>passed away, and I came back from College Station to

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>come clear out our apartment back and Grand Prairie, like

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:31.919
<v Speaker 1>I was going through a stuff, and I just saw

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 1>a stack of just articles of my brother and whatnot.

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 1>And I saw pictures of Jeffrey playing sports, and I

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>saw some pictures that I know was of him at

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<v Speaker 1>times that she said she could not go. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know those were the times when she would drive up

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, sit in her car and just try

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<v Speaker 1>to take little videos here and there, but or just

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<v Speaker 1>take pictures here and there. But she just wouldn't tell

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey and I and I never knew that that's a

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<v Speaker 1>woman who refused to lose graciously to a disease, who

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<v Speaker 1>showed her kids with grit determination really mean everything that

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<v Speaker 1>he does, he's took on myrie and he feels she's

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<v Speaker 1>with him and she sees him. And he even told

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<v Speaker 1>me said, you know, I don't have to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the cemetery to know that my mom is with me

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<v Speaker 1>and know that my mom is here. I know my

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<v Speaker 1>mom is happy, Auntie, because you feel down void my

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<v Speaker 1>mom loves to safe with you. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she's happy. So I think he came to

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<v Speaker 1>terms with that, with all the trauma that he went

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<v Speaker 1>through as a kid, He's just gonna sets, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things the way they are and then what next? What

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<v Speaker 1>can I do to on on my mom. It's obvious

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<v Speaker 1>how hard he's worked, how focused he has been, how

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<v Speaker 1>he refused to accept any setbacks, and what draft they

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<v Speaker 1>will mean to him and his memory of her. When

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<v Speaker 1>that moment finally arrives, what our coach are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing good? Honly here. Congratulation is gonna be great

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<v Speaker 1>for you, however works out. This is Ryan Day, head

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<v Speaker 1>coach at Ohio State. Thanks so much, coach. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to thank you for everything that you

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<v Speaker 1>did this year, you know, helping me, allowing me to

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<v Speaker 1>grow as a leader. All that give me darn boyable.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wish I could a coach your for a

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<v Speaker 1>few more years. Man, for sure, all the feedback that

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<v Speaker 1>hearing a lot of gms and head coaches have called me,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it just did no bringer, you know, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a dream come true, man, like one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things yet and it's you know for you too,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really cool to see somebody you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have an easy growing up, you know, and the

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.800
<v Speaker 1>nut that I had it like you, but it was similar.

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<v Speaker 1>And you go through a bunch of stuff when you're young.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just motivation, you know. And and to see you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put it through with you're yourself disciplined, your

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<v Speaker 1>work ethic and all that stuff is what what makes

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<v Speaker 1>you special. And you're gonna do that the next level.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just wanted to let you know, man, just

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<v Speaker 1>really proud. I wish I could be there in the

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<v Speaker 1>green room with you a Vegas. I was planning on

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<v Speaker 1>being there with Big and everybody and it's fun, but

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<v Speaker 1>um wing spirit and I want to let you know

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<v Speaker 1>when you appreciate thanks for everything called you to. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what people mean when they talk about the transformative

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<v Speaker 1>power of sports. Football starts as a game, but over

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 1>a lifetime of playing, relationships are built that transcend the sport.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a middle school kid right now. He's in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation like Jeff Okuda where he can't afford a book

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<v Speaker 1>for his class and his life is going to change

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<v Speaker 1>forever because of football. I would say, when you have

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<v Speaker 1>situations like that, you know, unfortunately the young man has

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<v Speaker 1>to go through it. Jeff had to go through that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it connects he and I for life in that

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<v Speaker 1>we went through something that you don't wish on any

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<v Speaker 1>young college student. But I was glad that I could

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<v Speaker 1>be there for him and not only his mother's passing,

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<v Speaker 1>but helping him grow spiritually, help him him grow as

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<v Speaker 1>a man. You know, to me, that's why you coach. Granted,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the game of football, and and has done

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<v Speaker 1>so much from me and my family and for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of young men that I've coached. But it gives

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<v Speaker 1>you an opportunity to connect with young people at a

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<v Speaker 1>different level and within their passion of what they love

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<v Speaker 1>to do. You can connect on so many different levels,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like we did that with Jeff. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll always be a huge fan of his because he's

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<v Speaker 1>not only a great player, but he's really a great

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<v Speaker 1>person and a guy with a huge heart. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know for a fact that he plays with a

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<v Speaker 1>passion that is uncommon for for college football players. I

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<v Speaker 1>think some of that's his love for the game. I

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<v Speaker 1>think some of it, quite frankly, is playing with the

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<v Speaker 1>image of his mom. In his mind. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>plays with a real strong purpose, and you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>a powerful thing. Coming up on the next episode of Drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so excited and we cannot wait to speak to

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<v Speaker 1>you later when you're in the NFL. Defensive lineman Chase Young,

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>he said, you want on your phone? He commantly too

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<v Speaker 1>long wide receiver levisca cholt just you know, the hard

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<v Speaker 1>times and just realizing like basically I'm built for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Cornerback Jeff Okuda, Atlanta, trying to trade up. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I really don't know. Like I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a try for a long time. You've already

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<v Speaker 1>controlled everything. You enjoy the ride man, Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach offensive tackle McKay Beckton, who calling her? Calling her?

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