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Speaker 1: with two times Super Bowl champion David Deal, welcoming you

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Speaker 1: And Dave, I'll tell you, I just spent a lot

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Speaker 1: of time, you know, first listening to Coach Schumer this morning,

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Speaker 1: and everybody's asking the same question. And fortunately the the

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Speaker 1: Giant players are answering the same way. Everybody's asking, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, both teams are oh and one, you and

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Speaker 1: oh and two. How do you feel about out that

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, oh when two is a

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Speaker 1: big hole? Uh? I don't have to remind you your

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Speaker 1: first Super Bowl, your first Super Bowl ring came. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: obituaries written on all of us, right, But but the

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Speaker 1: be worried about the record. We can't be worried about

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Speaker 1: we gotta worry about winning a game. And they seemed

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Speaker 1: didn't come out of that game, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of the fans, and in fairness, not

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Speaker 1: hear about it. It's gloom and doom right away, and

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Speaker 1: with the criticism. But they're in a pretty that they

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Speaker 1: things need to be corrected, but they felt that there

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Speaker 1: like Pollyanna of them to say that, and they seemed

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you look back at at this last

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Speaker 1: But you know, the biggest thing that this football team

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Speaker 1: But it came against a powerhouse. Let's put it this way.

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Speaker 1: how are we doing today? Hey guys, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: Um Russ and never spoke to you before. It's great

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Speaker 1: I have a little statement I'd like to make. I

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Speaker 1: watched the game very very closely on Sunday, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I you know, I thought the team played well.

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Speaker 1: You know, of course, you know, there's always mistakes during

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Speaker 1: the game. But one thing I did notice, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be critical of hello, Okay, of what Kwan Barkley. Okay, Barkley, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Now this is what this is the problem I have

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Speaker 1: with him. Okay, And I know he's a rookie, but

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Speaker 1: I think the Giants misused him that game. They had

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Speaker 1: him running inside um and they had him, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to catch flap passes. That's fine, but running inside

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's his game. And the reason I

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Speaker 1: say that is there were a couple of times where

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Speaker 1: he ran inside and he's tiptoeing. He's not borrowing through's.

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Speaker 1: He's uh, he's more upright than he is low. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And I think there was some critical play second third

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Speaker 1: down two yards to go, third down four yards whatever

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Speaker 1: that he had a chance to make it. But but

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Speaker 1: because he's high, standing up, he's not getting in there.

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00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: He's not he's not a burly. Let me just say something.

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Speaker 1: Mike se Kwan criticized himself in particular on that fourth

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Speaker 1: and two player. Quan said it loud and clear when

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Speaker 1: you say and thank you for the call, Mike. But

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Speaker 1: but Kuan said it loud and clear. I'm two d

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Speaker 1: and thirty pounds. If not, I'm not a little back.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I shouldn't have died up and over. I should

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Speaker 1: have put my shoulder down and plowed through. We're not

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Speaker 1: talking about some little guy here. Yeah. No. And the

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Speaker 1: thing that he's a load, oh yeah, absolutely and the

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Speaker 1: thing that that I wanted to go along with that

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Speaker 1: is is you also have to figure out and base

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Speaker 1: your running game on what they're gonna give you. You

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Speaker 1: know that the way that the Jacksonville Jaguars playing the

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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, that they believe in their

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Speaker 1: front four that they're gonna be risky and make sure

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Speaker 1: that they have people on the outside so that you

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Speaker 1: don't work the edges, so that if you can work

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Speaker 1: those double teams in those meshes, you have a better

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Speaker 1: opportunity of running the football inside and getting two guys

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Speaker 1: on one than you do trying to bounce it outside

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Speaker 1: and leaning more on your receivers up against the big

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Speaker 1: linebacker or safety. Uh So, those are different in game

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Speaker 1: adjustments that you make. But you know, in regards to

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Speaker 1: to say Kwon Berkley not being an inside runner, I

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Speaker 1: saw him dude a bunch of college and you know

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Speaker 1: that's something that he's going to continue to develop. And

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Speaker 1: it was his first game in his rookie season and

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Speaker 1: for him to rush for over a hundred yards, he

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Speaker 1: was the first running back to do so. Of the

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Speaker 1: top five running backs taken in the NFL draft going

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Speaker 1: back to two thousand and ten last year for Nett

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Speaker 1: got right at a hundred. He broke a hundred and

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Speaker 1: head what was it one of six before that, nobody

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Speaker 1: went over seventy yards. We're talking about Ezekiel Ellian and

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Speaker 1: the rest of the crew. So for him to do

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Speaker 1: that on his opening game, to do it up against

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, it's great. Is there work to be made?

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Speaker 1: Does he know that he has improvements to make? Of

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Speaker 1: course he does, and that's something that you're going to

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Speaker 1: continue to see and develop out of him. As and

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Speaker 1: some people we we addressed this yesterday when we're sitting

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Speaker 1: here with Land. Some people were saying, yeah, he got

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Speaker 1: the hundred or a little over a hundred, but you know,

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Speaker 1: sixty eight came on one play and it was a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Who cares? Came on one play that we only won

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Speaker 1: the game won the game that play. It wasn't just

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Speaker 1: a sixty eight yard touchdown run. Okay, it was a

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Speaker 1: sixty eight yard touchdown run. When the Jaguars were ready

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Speaker 1: to close the coffin, they were in a hole and

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Speaker 1: on third down, this guy does a dance and a

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Speaker 1: prance and goes out the end and he showed balance

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Speaker 1: and power and then he speed. He outran everybody. You know.

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Speaker 1: To me, you know, he's got something like and I

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Speaker 1: was watching it and I'm sure you weren't sure the

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Speaker 1: fans were, you know, that dancing and prancing a little through,

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Speaker 1: but but you know what, that's part of a style.

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Speaker 1: Allah Barry Sanders, and I'm talking to Allah, Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, that's what Barry did. Certain guys

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Speaker 1: have the ability. Not everybody can do that, the ability

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Speaker 1: to bust out a seventy yard play. Se Quan has

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Speaker 1: the ability. He did it in college. So yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you get one of those a game, you're living

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Speaker 1: pretty high. No kid and no kid. And then that's

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Speaker 1: something once again, with his development of his game and

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Speaker 1: now playing in the NFL, that's something that he's gonna

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Speaker 1: learn that he can't do. You're not gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to bounce every ball outside in his own running scheme

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Speaker 1: like you did in college and be able to outrun

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Speaker 1: and have a better angle than some defensive ends or

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Speaker 1: linebackers because they're much better in the NFL. But you'll

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Speaker 1: know that once he gets more familiar not only with

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Speaker 1: the scheme and what he's playing and how it has

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Speaker 1: done in the NFL. But once he gets more familiar

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Speaker 1: with how the offensive line sets up blocks and the

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Speaker 1: schemes and the way it goes, you're gonna see him

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Speaker 1: lower his head more, not do as much dance and

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Speaker 1: making sure he gets more nor sound. Two oh one, nine, three,

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Speaker 1: nine four or five one three is the number for

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00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: you to call on Big Blue Kickoff. And it's a

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Speaker 1: eighteen season. Back to the phone lines, we go again

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Speaker 1: to one, nine four, five one three is the number

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Speaker 1: out to Long Island, and let's speak with Christian. Christian,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing today, my friend? Oh God, that's

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Speaker 1: how you doing? How are you doing? Buddy? I just

534
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: had a two questions. I know you guys are probably

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Speaker 1: tired of talking about the offensive line and uh and Flowers.

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Speaker 1: What do you see if Flowers continues to struggle you

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Speaker 1: to think that Gettleman will make a trade like mid

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Speaker 1: season or somehow is he gonna finish the season on

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Speaker 1: the roster even still on the bench. Who knows. I

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Speaker 1: mean you honestly hypothetical. Yeah, I mean they believe me.

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Speaker 1: If there's a situation where the Giants and Dave Guttleman

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Speaker 1: and Pat Shermer feel that they can upgrade and do

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Speaker 1: something that's in the benefit of this football team, you

544
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Speaker 1: know they're gonna do it. You know that's going to

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Speaker 1: take place. And that's the one thing that you love

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Speaker 1: about now what's taking place here with Pat Shermer, with

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Speaker 1: Dave Guttleman, their candid about everything. They're up front and

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00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna tell you what they think and what they feel.

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Speaker 1: And that's one thing that me as a player when

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Speaker 1: Dave Guttleman wasn't the GM, when he was here as

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Speaker 1: the director of scouting, that's the same thing. He'd come down, good,

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00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: bad and different, just like anybody else. Hey, watching film,

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00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: this is something that you need to work on, d Lineman,

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Speaker 1: are going to check this out. That that means a

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Speaker 1: lot to people. And when you're talking about one of

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Speaker 1: the things that we were able to get with a

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Speaker 1: win win trade, we still have that seventh round draft

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Speaker 1: pick that we were able to get from Brett Jones.

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Speaker 1: You know you know that may come into favor at

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Speaker 1: some point, you know, Christian. In answer to your question,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think Gettelman, Dave Gettleman, and Pat Sherman

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Speaker 1: have have proven already that they're not standing Pat on anything. Listen,

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00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: they made their fifth they they're making make Christian. They

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Speaker 1: told you Flowers was going to be the weakest. But

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Speaker 1: but but Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian. They made their fifty

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Speaker 1: three man roster. And no sooner did they make their

567
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Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. Six new guys were brought in.

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Speaker 1: You're asking a question if something remains to be bad

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Speaker 1: and if something is not being fixed, or if it

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Speaker 1: is not just Eric Flowers, it is any and everybody

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Speaker 1: else on the team. That's just the way it is.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, my friend. Appreciate it again. Folks,

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Speaker 1: Two O one four or five one three is the

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Speaker 1: number from Long Island. Let's go more nearby to Newark,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey and speak with Max. Hello Max, thanks for

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Speaker 1: taking my call. Um David deal honor or picking to

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Speaker 1: someone that's always left blue and always been about the organization.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Max, I appreciate that. What can we help you with? UM?

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Speaker 1: I have basically two observations in one question. Um, one

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Speaker 1: of the first observation, I hear some people saying he

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Speaker 1: wants to be People want him to be more physical,

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Speaker 1: but you have to remember that's in him as long

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Speaker 1: as fast football. He's been the shifty kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: He wants to be more physical. You have to let

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Speaker 1: him develop those habits because he's had the hat of

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Speaker 1: you know, dancing around and doing stuff that it's all

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Speaker 1: life and successful. He wants to add this other thing.

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Speaker 1: Give him the time to do so. UM. The other

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Speaker 1: observation is, UM, I'm really surprised how well the defense

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Speaker 1: is considering we want from a fourth three to a

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Speaker 1: fourth to a three four, and you know it's one

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Speaker 1: of the very first game. They played very well, So

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Speaker 1: kudos to the defense for doing that. Let's just continue

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Speaker 1: to take it the next step working the contains. But overall, sres,

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Speaker 1: I thought they did really good. UM. My one question is,

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Speaker 1: and i'll take it off the line, is how do

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Speaker 1: you think this week's matchup with dalysis why receivers are

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Speaker 1: compared to our secondary. I think it's favorable, but I

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Speaker 1: just want to get your opinions and thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for the post. All Right, thank you, Max call

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Speaker 1: Us again again, folks, two oh one nine three one

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Speaker 1: three is the number David to go to go back

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Speaker 1: to the first part once again. Yeah, you have to

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Speaker 1: give the defense a lot of credit for the way

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Speaker 1: they played in the second half, how tough they fought.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you can't take for granted

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Speaker 1: the fact that Leonard Fournette was not out on the field,

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Speaker 1: who is their lynch pin offensively and gets everything going

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Speaker 1: for him. So that's why I wanted looking back at

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Speaker 1: this game, that's one of the toughest things is that

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Speaker 1: he was out of that game, and that's where you

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Speaker 1: can capitalize and really take advantage of the opportunity in

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Speaker 1: front of you and forced the game into Blake Bortle's hands.

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Speaker 1: So that's one of the things that's difficult to deal with.

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Speaker 1: But having said that, getting ready for this matchup up

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Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, I think this is one that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see a great matchup, and I think that the

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Speaker 1: Giants have the upper hand. You know, if you look

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Speaker 1: at the way that once we're again we were talking

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Speaker 1: about earlier, you know, it was pretty much the same

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Speaker 1: type of game plan that they ran last season with

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Speaker 1: no dead and with no Jason Witten, and you could

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Speaker 1: really see the timing, the confidence, uh that that Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott and his receivers were not on the same page

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Speaker 1: with the timing, with clear break out of the out

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Speaker 1: of the you know, out of the route, snapping off

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Speaker 1: of it, and you could just see that timing was

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Speaker 1: off the entire day. So if you're able for this defense,

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Speaker 1: which we all know that they're going to try to do,

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Speaker 1: if you're able to, you know, you're not going to

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Speaker 1: maintain and stop him, But if you're able to contain

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott and force the ball into Dak Prescott's hands,

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Speaker 1: that's where we've seen him struggled time and time again.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just about him trying to use his legs.

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Speaker 1: It's about forcing him to pull up and be a

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Speaker 1: pocket pass or something that has never been a strength

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Speaker 1: and he does not have, which from a Giant's perspective,

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Speaker 1: every Giant fan every place has to be happy there

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Speaker 1: is no Jason Witten on the field. Thank I mean really,

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Speaker 1: thank god? Am I right? You're talking about not just

641
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Speaker 1: a talented guy, but a guy when the money is

642
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: on the table, you know he's there to grab it.

643
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: Let's listen. Um, if anybody thinks Sunday Night for some

644
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: reason should be easy, I don't know what they're thinking about. Okay,

645
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: And it's not a question of because the both OH

646
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: and one teams. You're talking about a situation. Both teams

647
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: are hungry. I'm not going to use the word desperate

648
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: because you can't be desperate. If the one game, you

649
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: can be hungry. You need to be aggressive, you need

650
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: to take care of business. But the Giants are going

651
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: into enemy territory on Sunday night on National TV in Dallas. Hello,

652
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's like gonna be a big barbecue,

653
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, and and they're not going to be the

654
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: welcome guests. So you know, to me, UH, nothing's easy.

655
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm expecting a tough game, but but I'm

656
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: expecting a a much improved UH performance. And you know,

657
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: I made an observation, David Uh I brought this up yesterday.

658
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: I made an observation after Friday's practice, which in all

659
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: the years and I'm talking about thirty years covering the Giants,

660
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: but I have I had never seen it. After Friday's practice,

661
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: Nate Solder and John Greco, two big veteran offensive lineman

662
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: walked over to se Kwan Barkley's locker. Uh. And it

663
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: wasn't like a casual Hey dude, what's going on? How

664
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: you doing in your fantasy? It was an all serious

665
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: business conversation. You know, all three of them. Are we

666
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: ready on this? And we got this? They were taught.

667
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: It was all business and and it was quite extended

668
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: and and you know media people, um uh pr you

669
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: know staff who who needed them. Everybody was standing back

670
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: because this was a business conversation. And then when s

671
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: Quan left to going to the shower, that conversation continued

672
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: at length with jon Nathan Stewart. Now, maybe I'm reading

673
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: into something, but I had never really seen that before.

674
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: In the locker room, two guys who are completely on

675
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: the other side of the room came over. It told

676
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: me that this group wants to get it right. Oh yeah,

677
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: that that we want to make sure we got our

678
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: tease crossed, our eyes dotted. We want this and we

679
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: want to make sure everybody's on the same page. I

680
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: really thought that was a positive huge It didn't. It

681
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: didn't result in a victory, but they want to get

682
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: it right. They do. You can tell that everybody's invested

683
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: on turning things around and getting back to the championship

684
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: culture of what it means to be a New York Giant.

685
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: And and that does mean a lot, even though it's

686
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: something that's just that easy. But to sit there and

687
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: have those conversations to make sure that everybody's on the

688
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: same page, that you get everything cleaned up before you

689
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: go out there. Granted it didn't work out perfectly on Sunday,

690
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: but those dialogues, those conversations are building a you know,

691
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: an accountability in one another with the offensive line, the

692
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: running backs, and that's only going to get better. Can

693
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: you imagine now when se Kwan gets more comfortable and

694
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: more adjusted, when he's gonna be able to talk and

695
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: tell the guards or the tackles these are the things

696
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: he's more comfortable doing, or he's gonna try reading it

697
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: that way. That talking and and verbalizing it while watching

698
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: film is never duplicated because when you get out there,

699
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: then it's ingrained in you to where you're not thinking

700
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: and you're just reacting off of it. We all know

701
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: this is a game of speed. That split second that

702
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: you think and you don't react, it's over for you.

703
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: So when you can hammer out things, whether it's watching film,

704
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: talking through plays, protections, making sure everybody's on the same page,

705
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: it's another time going through it in your memory. Once again,

706
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: it's reaffirming that what are we all? We're all in

707
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: it together. Two oh one four or five one three

708
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: is the number. I'd be remiss if I didn't as you,

709
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: having you sitting next to me, to take advantage of this.

710
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: How much you know it's not just Eric Flowers, but

711
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: Flowers it becomes the focal point. But how much of

712
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: is it not just Eric but anybody on the offensive line,

713
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: on any offensive line for that matter, technique And how

714
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: difficult is it or not difficult is it to correct technique?

715
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, technique is something that that's what your survival

716
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: is out there. You can be big, you can be strong,

717
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: but if you don't have technique, you're not going to

718
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: get the job done. And you know that's something that

719
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: we talked about. Is you know, my entire life and

720
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: my career playing offensive line. You know I always told

721
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: trust your technique. The only way you can trust your

722
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: technique is the one make sure that your muscle memory

723
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: and your preparation and your individual stuff you hammer out,

724
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: So you do it every single time the same way,

725
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: because what happens when you do it every single time

726
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: the same way, you don't get rattled if you're on

727
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: the road in that defensive end gets a split second

728
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: jump on it, which is gonna happen. Are you going

729
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: to trust your technique and be disciplined and make sure

730
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: you kick back square or are you gonna do exactly

731
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: what they want you to do? Take one kick, turn

732
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: your outside, bail your foot and open up the floodgates.

733
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: So those are things that are crucial when you talk

734
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: about offensive line play and just regards to the game

735
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: of football. But o line, that's what lets you play

736
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: for a long time, that's what keeps you in the game,

737
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: and that's what allows you to win your one on

738
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: the battles. So taking it one step further when you're

739
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: in college, okay, uh, are your offensive lineman in college

740
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: even the best ones, the big strong guys. But is

741
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: it in college? Is it more about power? And then

742
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 1: when they you know, if you will brud Strand again

743
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: when they come into the pros, then the old line

744
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: coach says, okay, fellas light, life is a little different. Well,

745
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: I think It also depends on where you're going to

746
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: school in the scheme that they're running. You know, for me,

747
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it's any surprise that a lot of

748
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: the NFL offensive lineman from the Big Ten because you're

749
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: used to playing physical, smash mounth downhill, running the football

750
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: two tight ends that type of play to where then, now,

751
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: if you're going to someplace else and you're running a

752
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: spread system in the offensive line is in a two

753
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: point stance and it's about getting as many plays in

754
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: as you possibly can, and you're not really focusing on

755
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: the technique aspect of it. That's where you really see

756
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: a drop off when it comes to offensive lineman going

757
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: from the college game to the pro game. It's all

758
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: based upon technique and the way they were coached and

759
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: the way that they were taught. So when you think

760
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: about it, the reason why some of those teams do

761
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: do that spread, net up temple stuff because they don't

762
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: think their offensive line is good enough to get the

763
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: job done. So you think, if we can do this

764
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: and we can get more plays, we're gonna wear out

765
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: the defense instead of them beating us up physically. Two

766
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: oh one four or five one three is the number

767
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: coming out of college. You know he was Eric was

768
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: a twenty year old kid coming out of college. Was

769
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: that was he relying on power and size. Listen, everybody

770
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: talks about out and of a man or as or

771
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: was it all power in size and not technique? And

772
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: he really almost was learning a new game when he

773
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: was coming here. Well, that was something that he was

774
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: wrong and that he still continues to need to work

775
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: on dramatically is tying his hands in his feet together.

776
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: You could be the strongest, you could be the biggest,

777
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: you could have the longest arm length, but if you

778
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: aren't able to punch, restart, or redirect the defensive end

779
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: and maintain an inside landmark, it doesn't matter how big

780
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, it just like you look at the guy.

781
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a mountain man, and it leaves you

782
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: scratching your head because what we we said, especially at

783
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: the tech position, if you get beat inside, there's nothing

784
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: you can do. There's no recovering because you're flushing him

785
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: right into the quarterback. The quarterback is gonna be running out,

786
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a defensive tack looping, and it's never

787
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: gonna work that way, at least if you make a

788
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: defensive end rush outside, you have a chance to, like

789
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: I said, either restart or re direct this rush. Or

790
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: there's times that we used to call guys bull riders.

791
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: They'd get their hands on them, they punch, and they'd

792
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: be able to ride and push them for those three

793
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: seconds to ride the bull and then be able to

794
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: let go. You can only do that if you give

795
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: him a one way go to the outside. If you

796
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: give up an inside go and then now all of

797
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: a sudden you're giving up pressure that way, you are

798
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: in deep trouble as an offensive tackle. Yeah, speaking of technique,

799
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 1: you know one play we're all talking about the sixty

800
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: eight yard the run by s Kwon Barkley. I'll tell

801
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: you who made a heck of a play on that run,

802
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: Little number huge big How big time was that block?

803
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: And the great thing that why it was even more

804
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: big time was because he didn't even know it was

805
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: going to bounce off and come off of his block.

806
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: That's something that you hone in on and you talk

807
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: all eleven need to get in the run game. That's

808
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: something that a Monty toumb were bought into. That something

809
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: that Steve Smith would get down in there. And that's

810
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: something that was a reason why we were able to

811
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: have the amount of numbers rushing the football that we did.

812
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: That was a tremendous And you're talking about I mean,

813
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't he's got to be the smaller of all

814
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: the receivers on the tap. I mean he's not. But

815
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: what did he do? Just just a uh, just a tremendous,

816
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: tremendous play. Two oh one four or five one three

817
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: is the number again, folks, want to remind you that

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00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff here Live is presented to you by

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820
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Speaker 1: yourself Amazing Giants prizes throughout the season of I just

821
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: wanted to bring out a point to you. Uh. You know, again,

822
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: we're talking a lot about the offensive line and the

823
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: things that need to be corrected. Uh, it just seems

824
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: to me that it's fixable. Maybe maybe maybe I'm being

825
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: naive it is. But the most important thing is is

826
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: that anytime you lose, don't lose the lesson. Learn from

827
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: this game and make sure when you come out and

828
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: you're getting ready for this Dallas Cowboys game. First of all,

829
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, DeMarcus Lawrence has been extremely extremely good at

830
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: a pressuring and sacking the quarterback. We saw him emerged

831
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: big time last year and he hasn't dropped off whatsoever,

832
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: and it looks like he's ad more moves to his

833
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: repertoire and his secondary moves and everything. The one thing

834
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: that you're hoping is that Randy Gregory's out with the

835
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: concussion on the other side, because we saw the way

836
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: that now with his emergence and him coming back that

837
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: if you take him off, now you only have one

838
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: pass rusher out there. That really changes the temple of

839
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: the football game of what they want to do and

840
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: what Rob Mirronelli does. But you know this, this is

841
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: a upfront four than the defensive line that Rob Mirronelli

842
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: loves games. He loves tackling and twits. He loves inside

843
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: tackle tackle twits. So they're gonna have to make sure

844
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: that they hammer out protections and are on the same

845
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: page and communicate with one another or otherwise gonna be

846
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: getting split on double teams and and it's gonna be

847
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: a long day for you, Lie Manning. All right, two

848
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: oh one nine four or five one three is the number.

849
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: Something just happened with my um. You got a map

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00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a satellite map, but I'm not looking

851
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: at was it Mike on the line? Who's on the line?

852
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: And some of Mike and Virginia? Mike, how you doing today? Buddy? Hey?

853
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: How are you doing today? Sellers? Good? What's going on?

854
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: Not much? Hey? I got something for you. Man. I

855
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: haven't called in since the playoff game in a green day.

856
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: I listened every day, but I haven't called in. And

857
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: I really enjoy YouTube when y'all get together, man, I

858
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: really do. Uh Russ. I always call you no fuss

859
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: Russ because when somebody calls in with some kind of

860
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: garbage being disrespectful, you check them quick, man, And I'll

861
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: tell you it always makes me laugh man, and deal

862
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: Dave you you always give that that great perspective, and

863
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: it's like, sometimes I only gonna understand why people want

864
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: to argue with somebody that's played as long as you have.

865
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: You know what? You know what, Mike, we're sitting next

866
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: to him. I always wonder, I mean, we got somebody

867
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: telling them. Let's look that people telling telling I'm sitting

868
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: next to a two time Super Bowl champ who's played

869
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: offensive line, and they're telling them about technique and I'm

870
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: going home scratching my head. You're not the only one.

871
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: What do we got? Well, what I like to say is, uh,

872
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: fans need to calm down because this was a huge

873
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: step for us from last year. What we showed was

874
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: we were able to move the ball on a top

875
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: rated defense. Yeah, there's there's some bugs that we need

876
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: to work out, but look at the positives. Yeah we

877
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: were down, but we were always in the game, and

878
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: that's what we need to look at. There's some building

879
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: blocks that we have right now, and I'm just really

880
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: excited in the direction that we're going. Nothing's perfect, of

881
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: course not, but this was a great start. Yeah, we

882
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: didn't win, but to me, this was a very good start. Well,

883
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm I'm one of those people and

884
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: I think David you are too. You know, moral victories,

885
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: Mike Keist, you know, yeah, you know you want to

886
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: win the game. But but having said that, you know

887
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: there was improvement. You saw improving and you know what

888
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: we were talking about it last week about this killer

889
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: of the first seven games of the season. We're looking

890
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: at Jacksonville, Ballace, Houston, New Orleans, Carolina, Philly, Atlanta, Washington.

891
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. The first game was the

892
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: toughest test in terms of a new team and a

893
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: new offensive line. What could have been worse than the

894
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, unfamiliar team and an FC team, a team

895
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: coming off of a playoff run, the type of defense

896
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: that you faced, and considering the fact that the New

897
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 1: York Giants have a whole new team with new schemes

898
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: on both the defensive and offensive side of the ball.

899
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: So that is that. But having said that, I think

900
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: the positive thing to look at is is that with

901
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: all the things that possibly could have gone wrong that did,

902
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: there was still an opportunity left in the football game

903
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: in the second half to win it still and those

904
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: are the things that you have to pull from it. So, yeah,

905
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: there are tons of things that they have to correct.

906
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: That's that's evident, and that's in every game you see

907
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: things that you have to correct. But I think the

908
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: fact that they were able to go out there and

909
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: compete up against a great football team and do it

910
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: for four plus quarters and then come back this week

911
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: and see how close they were from one or two

912
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: players completely changing the outcome of that one, I think

913
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: those are the positive things that Pat Shermer and this

914
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: team are gonna do. Mh. Yeah, I really enjoy it.

915
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: I really think we have a very good chance this

916
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: week and I'm just excited to see that's moving forward.

917
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: But thanks for taking my call, gentlemen, and I will

918
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: be calling again when you got on my Feel free

919
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: to call uh Dave or no fuss for us anytime

920
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: you like. Alright, I have a good one. Alright, buddy.

921
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: But I will say this, I true lead do have

922
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: a really good feeling about this game, in this matchup

923
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. I think coming off of this last game,

924
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: I think that they're going to regroup and and truly

925
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: O'Dell had a very good game for him to come

926
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: out play the way that he did, have over a

927
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: hundred yards receiving half eleven catches. The thing I'm excited

928
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: now is that the physical part of it he knows

929
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: he has, but now he knows he has the mental

930
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: part as well. You have to remember that, yes he

931
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: was out there practicing, Yes he was running and doing

932
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: sprints and going in out of break, but he's never

933
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: gotten hit. He didn't get wrapped up and tackled. He

934
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: hasn't had to go across the middle. Knowing that there's

935
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: gonna be a safety that's gonna hit him. He's done

936
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: that already. Now from this point forward, I think he's

937
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: gonna have a huge year. And I think he's gonna

938
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: explode this weekend up against the Dallas cowb. You know,

939
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about, Wow, you know, what's he gonna

940
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: be like without preseason? But I didn't see. I didn't

941
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: see any lackluss to play. I thought he quite frankly,

942
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: I thought he was mentally prepared. I thought he was,

943
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: you know, focused. I will say something else to one

944
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: of the call of fellow who was talking about Barkley,

945
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: and I apologize. You know, if you're still watching, I

946
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: don't know if it was John or Mike Um brought

947
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: out the point that you know about talking about his physicality.

948
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: I mean, say, Juan Barkley is a tough, strong guy.

949
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I maybe we're watching two different people, but

950
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: he's a tough, strong guy. And the fact that immediately

951
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: after the game, Sa Kwan saying I need to get that.

952
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: That's on me taking ownership of it. That's that's all

953
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,479
Speaker 1: you ask. And you know what, there was a play.

954
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: I think it might have been his first run. Maybe

955
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: it was for nine yards or something like that, and

956
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: boom he did like a ramp. He rammed um and

957
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: got up and was talking right in his face. You know,

958
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: he didn't look like he wasn't scared some unphysical, non physic,

959
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: non physical rookie there. He looked like a guy ready

960
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: to rumble. Oh yeah, so you know, to me, I

961
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: agree with you, Dave that that was one time. And

962
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't usually walk away from games saying, you know what,

963
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: that they lost. This sucks. You know. I don't usually

964
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: walk away saying, well, this was good and that was good.

965
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: But I walked I left that game saying especially because

966
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: I saw adjustments, adjustments being made on the second half.

967
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: And I think that that's something that that frustrates fans

968
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: when you don't see adjustments. Yes, a hundred percent and

969
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: whole hardly it should. You see that there are flaws

970
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: or something's not working. You have to do something to

971
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: change things up. And then for this team and for

972
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: this coaching staff, it's only a bright sign of what

973
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to do moving forward as they

974
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: continue to play together, grow that continuity amongst the team,

975
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: and really get that confidence in the system that they're

976
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: running two O one five one three is the number.

977
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: I got about five minutes to go, folks before we

978
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: wrap things up here. Listen you you were part of

979
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: this whole, Dallas. Uh you know Cowboy Giants rivalry? Is it?

980
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: What it is? Oh? Yeah? That now the new guys

981
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: like like you know, you know some of the new guys,

982
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: younger guys on a team. You know. I heard Landon

983
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: Collins talking about it today. People were asking him about

984
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: the rivalry and Landed said, you know, I've only been

985
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: here and you know what's this is his fourth year.

986
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: He says, I'm not you know, I know what it

987
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: is when we get there, but you know he doesn't

988
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: have a history of the rivalry. Yeah, I mean, well

989
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: that's okay. I just know that anytime it's this game week,

990
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: the energy and the building, the energy on the field,

991
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: those games, you know, it's always like a heavyweight fight.

992
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: And for Giants fans, that competition, that rivalry is something

993
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: that you heard about as a player and you continue

994
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: to hear about every time you hear somebody say, hey,

995
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: good luck this season, make sure you beat the Cowboys.

996
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: There was something that came up and followed up with

997
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: it right after so there is something bigger than just

998
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: the season in the game, and that this is Week

999
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: two and that's two teams that are sitting that are

1000
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: winless and want to turn their season around. When you

1001
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: put on that n Y and you're seeing that start,

1002
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: it is the history tradition. And for me, anytime I did,

1003
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: I would think to myself, you know, I want to

1004
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: go out there and represent this organization and make sure

1005
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: I make Walaton Merri proud. You know. Pat. Pat Sherman

1006
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: was talking about people are asking him about, you know,

1007
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: the rivalry you know, in the NFC East, and he

1008
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: brought out a point. He says, you know, I don't

1009
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: really I'm not really feeling it here. I'm just here now.

1010
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: I know what the the rivalries are in the NFC East.

1011
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: But but Sherman said, uh, I can't tell you though

1012
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: I felt it when I was in Philadelphia. He says

1013
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: he remembers when he was in Philly and it was

1014
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: one early morning and he was going out to take

1015
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: out the garbage and somebody on the street came up

1016
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: to him and said, it's okay if you go too

1017
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: and fourteen, as long as you beat the Cowboys, you know,

1018
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: that's The funny thing is that this is another great story.

1019
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: So whenever we were on the road throughout my eleven

1020
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: year career, you know, the minute that we would get

1021
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: to the team hotel and drop off, I drop off

1022
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: my bags and I just go out and walk around

1023
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: the city just for a couple of minutes to stretch out,

1024
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: get some fresh air. You know, go Philly. First year,

1025
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: I go walking around, no problems. The second year I

1026
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: had about nine or ten guys that were Philly Philly

1027
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: fans heckling me the entire way. Philadelphia was the only

1028
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: city that whenever we would go there for a road game,

1029
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: I never went out and walked that's the only city.

1030
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: And you're a big guy. Yeah, I don't need that.

1031
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't need But but let me ask this. Sometimes

1032
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: you know you're an enemy territory. But I've heard this

1033
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: many times from players. You know, you'd say, oh, they're

1034
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: going on the road. But but many times players the

1035
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: parcelas used to say that too. It's fifty three guys

1036
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: on the road against the world world. And if you

1037
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: motivated that way, And I was also wondering, like a

1038
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: guy like Eric Flowers and again not beating a dead horse,

1039
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 1: but a guy like Eric Flowers, who who gets booed

1040
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: and you know, the kids, all the raspberries coming, you know, locally,

1041
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: maybe on on the road though, you know, it's a

1042
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: different story. I'm part of this team. Let's go out

1043
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: and kick some kicks and asks. Yeah, I mean, because

1044
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: all that matters are the people in that locker room.

1045
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: Those are the only players, the coaches, They're the only

1046
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: ones that are gonna dictate the outcome of that football game.

1047
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: Not the fans, not the people on the outside. It's

1048
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: all about this team looking at one another in the eye,

1049
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: being accountable to another, one another, and selling out for

1050
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: four plus quarters. And that's something that you know, you

1051
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: think back to those years, think back to two thousand

1052
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: and seven. We thrived on playing on the road, and

1053
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: one of the greatest feelings in the world is walking

1054
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: away from you know, whether it's FedEx Field or the

1055
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: Cowboys Stadium or the Link, just walking away from those

1056
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: places victorious and the place being completely silent. You know,

1057
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 1: I love when we're talking about two thousand and seven, folks,

1058
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: uh in particular, because you know, and well we're up

1059
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: against But I want to bring out a point you

1060
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: you brought it up before you started out oh and

1061
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: two in two thousand and defense give up the first two?

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Speaker 1: How's this eight? Not not only that you lose forty

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Speaker 1: five thirty five in Dallas? The first one you lose,

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00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: you lose thirty five to thirteen at home to Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Now you go to Washington and if I remember correctly,

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Speaker 1: it was something like something like sixteen three or something.

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Speaker 1: And I remember John Marras saying to me, saying, sitting

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Speaker 1: with Jerry saying, oh, this is not good and and

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Speaker 1: it was gut checked time. And then you know, the

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Speaker 1: rest is history. They came away with seventeen win and

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Speaker 1: you know, there you go. You know, so it all

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Speaker 1: it takes, you know, and more than anything, and you

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Speaker 1: you can attest to this. It takes staying together. It

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00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: takes staying together with your brothers in the foxhole and

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Speaker 1: making sure you take care of business. And folks, business

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Speaker 1: will be coming Sunday night on National TV in Big

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Speaker 1: d your oh and one Giants against your oh and whatnot?

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Speaker 1: Your oh and one there, oh and one cowboys. In

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Speaker 1: the meantime. That is a rap on today again. Our

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Speaker 1: thanks to you people, my thanks to two time Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champion David Deal, I'm Russ Salzburg. For everybody here

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Speaker 1: at Big Blue Kickoff on giants dot com, we thank

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Speaker 1: you and we will see you next time.