1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Terrence Bates. Thanks so much for being along for the ride. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: President Trump continues making a splash with his top level nominees. 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: Among the latest is Cash Patel, who is President Trump's 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: pick to replace Christopher Ray as head of the FBI. 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: A number of Senators are already on record saying they 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: support the forty four year old. Ironically, President Trump is 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: looking to replace Ray, whom he appointed director of the 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: bureau back in twenty seventeen. Ray technically still has three 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: years left on his ten year tenure. That ten years 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: on the job is meant to ensure that directors of 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: the FBI can operate without political influence or pressure. However, 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: many on the right argue that Ray's decisions in the 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: past several years have actually been politically influenced. Given the 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: recent announcement about Patel's likely ascension to the top job 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: at the nation's top law enforcement agency, it appears that 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Ray will either have to resign or face being fired 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: once President Trump takes office. Following President Biden's about face 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: on pardoning his son Hunter, the troubled first son's lawyers 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: are now calling for the indictments against him to be dismissed. 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: In a court filing almost immediately after the President's full 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: and unconditional pardon, Hunter's legal team said the Commander in 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: Chief's move quote requires dismissal of the indictments against Hunter. 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: You may remember Hunter Biden pleaded guilty to federal tax 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: charges and was convicted of making false statements on a 26 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: gun background check form. He was set to be sentenced 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: in both of those cases later this month. Closing arguments 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: in the case of a twenty six year old Marine 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: veteran who was on trial for the subway choking death 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: of a homeless man who was acting radically on the 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: train was currently under way. The case made national headlines 32 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: back in May of twenty twenty three after the former 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: marine claimed that he acted in self defense against threatening 34 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: behavior from Jordan Neely, who was homeless. The twenty six 35 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: years has pleaded not guilty demandslaughter and criminally negligent homicide. 36 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: While prosecutors admit the suspect intended to protect people, they 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 1: also say that he used excessive force and was indifferent 38 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: to the human life he was holding in his arms. 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: Well Washington, DC is a beehive of activity this day. 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: Let's bring on John Solomon to talk a bit more 41 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: about some of what's happening. John, good to see you, 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: my friend. Let's start with the Hunter Biden, with the 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's story. Obviously, President Biden is now said that 44 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: he's going to pardon his son. Your take and what 45 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: are you hearing around Washington, d c. Relative to that? 46 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: Well, listen as a fitting end to a scandal that 47 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: began by Joe Biden lying at the beginning of his 48 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: presidency about what went on with his son. Remember, he 49 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: told the American public, my family never got money from China. 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: They did. 51 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: He told the American public that the laptop was rushing disinformation. 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 2: It wasn't. It was in the FBI's possession. He told 53 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: the American people he never met with his business partner, 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden's business partners. He had dinner with them at 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: the Cafe Milano. He lied to us all through the 56 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: beginning of his presidency and in the twenty twenty election 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: to hide the nature of the scandal. And at the 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: end of his presidency he went backwards on one of 59 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 2: his pledges when he said he wouldn't pardon his son, 60 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: he would trust the judicial system to hand out the 61 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: right punishment. He lied one more time, and he pardoned 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: his son last night in a very sweeping pardon that 63 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: goes all the way back to twenty seventeen. I think 64 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: it's a fitting end to a scandal that began with 65 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: lies and ultimately end it with lies. 66 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 3: No. 67 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely, before I let you go, John. In about a 68 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: minute or so, Cash Ptel being nominated to head up 69 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: the FBI, which means Christopher Ray is out one way 70 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: or the other. What is the buzz about that particular 71 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: storyline there in Washington, d C. 72 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's all about making sure that cash Ptel's 73 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: the record doesn't get distorted, that his record of achievement 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: as a successful prosecutor, an award winning prosecutor, decorated by 75 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: the CIA, decorated by the Justice Department. 76 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: Gets front and center. 77 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: And that's some of the things that Democrats want to 78 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: use as actions. Don't take over the debate, and they 79 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: get to fifty one votes, get them in as the 80 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: FBI director. But first Chris Ray either has to resign 81 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: or Donald Trump will have to fire him. On January twentieth, 82 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: we'll see which one of those happens first. 83 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, really quickly before I let you go. Congress is 84 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: coming back to work this week. They've got to pass 85 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: a budget. December twentieth is a drop dead date. Is 86 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: this going to happen? And we're going to continue kicking 87 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: the can down the road. 88 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: We're going to continue to kick the can down the road. 89 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 2: I think they'll do something to kick them into January 90 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: February timeframe, and then the new Republican Congress will put 91 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: its inporter on government working with the President. So one 92 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: more short term interim kick to the canber We're getting 93 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: pretty good at that. We've been doing it for about 94 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: twenty years. 95 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, John Solomon, appreciate your time, my friend. Good to 96 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: see you, good to be with you. All right, and 97 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: that's going to do it for us here on Real 98 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: America's Voice. Take a quick break and get you back 99 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: to your regularly scheduled programming. 100 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: Okay, everybody, welcome back. 101 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 5: Email lessons always Freedom at Charliekirk dot com and subscribe 102 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 5: to our podcast. There's an incredible roster of change makers 103 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 5: that President Trump has assembled, but they must get through 104 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 5: the US Senate. Joining us now is Senator Marshall Blackburn 105 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 5: from the Great State of Tennessee. Senator, welcome to the program. 106 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 5: Thank you for making the time. Senator, first and foremost, 107 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 5: your reaction on this very impressive roster that President Trump 108 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 5: is presenting in front of the. 109 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 4: US Senate. 110 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 6: Charlie. I appreciate the fact that President Trump is fulfilling 111 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 6: yet another promise, and that was to the American people 112 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 6: that he would drain the swap and that he would 113 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 6: return Washington and the federal government is being a government 114 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 6: off by and for the people. And that's exactly what 115 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 6: he's doing. It's not business as usual for Donald Trump 116 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 6: as it relates to Washington, DC bureaucrats and bureaucracies. This 117 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 6: is all about the people and making this country great 118 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 6: again and making certain that government works for the people, who, 119 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 6: by the way, are paying the salary and paying the 120 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 6: bill for all of these bureaucrats and all of these agencies. 121 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 122 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 5: So, Senator, let's get into some of the recent appointments, 123 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,559 Speaker 5: most notably Cash Paateel. So this weekend, my friend Cash 124 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 5: Patel and front of this program, got nominated for FBI director. 125 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: Do you plan to support his nomination with a vote? 126 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 4: I believe you will. 127 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 5: And also, what are your colleagues saying right now about 128 00:06:59,320 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 5: Cash Hotel. 129 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 6: Yes, you know, Cash is a great guy with a 130 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 6: wonderful background. I liked the diversity in his background that 131 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 6: he would bring as director of the FBI, And Charlie, 132 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 6: here's the things to look at. He's been a prosecutor. 133 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 6: He prosecuted terrorists for the DOJ. He was recognized for 134 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 6: achievement and excellence in his work as a prosecutor for 135 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 6: the DOJ. He served as the lead staffer for the 136 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 6: House Intel Committee for Chairman Devin Nunez. He worked on 137 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 6: unraveling the Russia hoax and Russia gates, all of those activities. 138 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 6: He was the deputy at DNI, which is National Intelligence. 139 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 6: He was the chief of staff for the DoD which, 140 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 6: of course you are responsible for making certain that the 141 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 6: budget is working, that the personnel or in place when 142 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 6: you were chief of staff at the nation's Department of Defense. 143 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 6: So he brings this nice, solid background, this firm understanding 144 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 6: of the importance of our nation's intelligence from each and 145 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 6: every one of our intel agencies. Now for the FBI, 146 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 6: which is the premier agency and law enforcement, this is 147 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 6: a good thing to have someone that understands the inner 148 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 6: workings and I'll have to tell you. I was listening 149 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 6: to an interview that someone who had been a deputy 150 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 6: director of the FBI was giving, and oh, they were 151 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 6: just trashing Cash Patail and the fact that he had 152 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 6: been nominated and he wasn't an FBI man. Well, I 153 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 6: got news for you. This individual was more concerned about 154 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 6: the effect of the individuals at the FBI than they 155 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 6: were about the nation's security and making certain that the 156 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,479 Speaker 6: people know that they can put their trust and confidence 157 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 6: in the FBI. And that is what people want to see. 158 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 6: They want some transparency. They don't want to know, don't 159 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 6: need to know every little detail, but they're saying to 160 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 6: the FBI, to the Department of Justice, to the Secret Service, 161 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 6: to the IRS, we want to trust that what you 162 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 6: tell us is accurate and correct. 163 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 5: So let's play cut three here, because obviously I think 164 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 5: you were talking about mister Andy mcab let's play cut three. 165 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: It's a terrible development for the men and women of 166 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: the FBI and also for the nation that depends on 167 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 3: a highly functioning, professiontional, independent federal peerau of investigation. The 168 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: fact that Cash Patatel is profoundly unqualified for this job 169 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: is not even like a matter for debate, the installation 170 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: or the nomination. I guess we should say at this 171 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: point of Cash Patel's FBI director can only possibly be 172 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 3: a plan to disrupt, to dismantle, to distract the FBI, 173 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 3: and to possibly use it as a tool for the 174 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: president's political agenda. 175 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 5: Senator, that was the quote that I think you were saying, 176 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 5: Cash Hotel wants to restore faith and integrity the FBI. 177 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 6: Your thoughts right, Yes, indeed that is his goal is 178 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 6: faith and trust and for people to know what the 179 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 6: FBI is saying is accurate. And Charlie, just listen to 180 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 6: what McCabe is saying there. It is not about the 181 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 6: institution and the transparency of the institution are the fact 182 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 6: that the institution is responsible to the people of the country. 183 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 6: It is about the people that are there the FBI. 184 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 6: In other words, he's saying he's more concerned about his 185 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 6: buddies and friends and former colleagues it's the FBI, than 186 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 6: he is about the nation's security. And when I listen 187 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 6: to that quote from him, those comments from him, that 188 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 6: is what is first and foremost in my mind, and 189 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 6: quite frankly, I think for many people they are tired 190 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 6: of this. You know, it's so interesting when you look 191 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 6: at poles like the CBS poll that came out last 192 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 6: week and Charlie, over sixty percent of the American people 193 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 6: agree with the way Donald Trump is handling the transition 194 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 6: and with the people that he is putting forward as nominees. 195 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 6: And the reason for that is, you know, they're pretty 196 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 6: set up with this incestuous nature of these bureaucracies in DC. 197 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 6: They're fed up with the fact that people don't go 198 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 6: to work and they're still working remotely and they're still 199 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 6: drawing a paycheck. But you have the IRS has two 200 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 6: years of the backlog in dealing with IRS filings. You 201 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 6: have the VA that has a backlog of over one 202 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 6: million cases that are awaiting adjudication for benefits and healthcare. 203 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 6: And people are saying, hey, wait a minute. You know 204 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 6: you're not there for yourself. You are there as a 205 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 6: public servant for the people of this country, and you 206 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 6: should be there to help people, not to thwart or 207 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 6: slow down the process, not to hide information, not to say, well, 208 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 6: my opinion is this, Therefore I'm going to do it 209 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 6: this way. Regardless of what the law or the facts say. 210 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 6: People are tired of that. This is why Donald Trump 211 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 6: has a mandate. It is fine that people in this 212 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 6: country are saying, let's get this thing back on the 213 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 6: right track, because we have been on the wrong track. 214 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 5: Senator, thank you for your clarity on this. It is 215 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 5: so refreshing. Let me just ask you. Do you believe 216 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 5: that there is enough momentum amongst your Senate colleagues so 217 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 5: that Trump's picks can be installed both quickly and as selected. 218 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 6: I do think so. I think that we are going 219 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 6: to go through the hearings. I have encouraged people to 220 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 6: have these visits early with these nominees to talk with him, 221 00:13:54,760 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 6: and then January third, when we hand the gabbles to Republicans, 222 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 6: we should move expeditiously to begin these hearings. So on 223 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 6: January twentieth, we are confirming individuals, and Charley, I'll tell 224 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 6: you this on in the all Girl day. We need 225 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 6: to stay there and work and turn the president's cabinet. 226 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 6: I don't care if we work all night. 227 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 7: We need to stay. 228 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 6: In session until we get these confirmations done. 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We'll be right back, everybody. 256 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. Parents 257 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: Bates Democrat fundraising on the platform Act Blue is under 258 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: the microscope this morning. Our John Solomon is in Washington, 259 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: d C. Okay, apparently we don't have John as I 260 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: thought we would. Well. The final session of the current 261 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: class of the US House and Senate gets underway this week. 262 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: In these final three weeks, lawmakers are on Capitol Hill 263 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: are going to be tasked with averting a pre Christmas 264 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: partial government shutdown. The current funding bill Government Aid, the 265 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: current funding excuse me of government agencies, is set to 266 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: expire on December twentieth. The funding debate will include a 267 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: request from outgoing President Joe Biden for one hundred billion 268 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: dollars in emergency disaster relief funds. That money would be 269 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: earmarked for FEMA and areas in the Southeast that are 270 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: still rebuilding from Hurricanes Helene and from Hurricanes Milton. Plus. 271 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: Congress faces a January first deadline to raise the debt ceiling. However, 272 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: the extraordinary measures provisions implemented by the Treasury Department are 273 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: expected to delay a likely default until later next year. 274 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: That's a quick check of your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates. 275 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: As always, we appreciate you being along for the ride. 276 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: Now let's get you back to the Charlie Kirk Show. 277 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 7: So you end up spending okay, everybody, welcome back. 278 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 5: Email us as always, freedom at Charliekirk dot com and 279 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 5: subscribe to our podcast. Quite an honor to have our 280 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 5: next guest an American legend, truly, doctor Ron Paul. Doctor 281 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 5: Paul is a former Republican Congressman from Texas, chairman of 282 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 5: the Ron Paul Institute, and host of The Ron Paul 283 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 5: Liberty Report. Doctor Paul, Welcome to the. 284 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 4: Program, Charlie. 285 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 8: Nice to be with you. 286 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 5: So, doctor Paul, I want to start with the Department 287 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 5: of Government Efficiency. You've been talking about quite some time 288 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 5: about the waste of the abuse and how the size 289 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 5: and scope of the federal government has gone. 290 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 4: Way off course. 291 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 5: Tell us what is your reaction to Elon Musk's Department 292 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 5: of Government Efficiency. 293 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 9: Well, it's very very positive because I think people who 294 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 9: are hitting that up. They're very dedicated and they want 295 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 9: to cut back and they're going to make every effort. 296 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 9: Of course, they have a big job ahead because the 297 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 9: number of people who want in reality to cut back, 298 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 9: those numbers aren't as great as they should be. And 299 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 9: that's what bothers me, because when you put all the 300 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 9: factions together, there's always special interest will be attacked when 301 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 9: you start cutting. But think get cutting will be met 302 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 9: with a great deal of resistance. But it still has 303 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 9: to be done because all this stuff is going to 304 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 9: quit anyway. It better that we, you know, do it 305 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 9: in a deliberate, uh fashion. By just starting to cut, 306 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 9: some people are going to be her I think they're 307 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 9: getting to be cheated, but it has has to be 308 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 9: done otherwise, if you if we end up with uh, 309 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 9: this deficit exploding, not that it already hasn't has an 310 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 9: approached to it's it's going to be uh, it's going 311 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 9: to be bad for much worse than if we if 312 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 9: we deliberately pass laws that reduces the size of the 313 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 9: scope of government. 314 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 8: But government, by its. 315 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 9: Very nature is inefficient, and that is an overwhelming task 316 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 9: to rein it in because that is its nature. The 317 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 9: founders tried very hard to make sure that the people 318 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 9: would contain the size and growth of government, because they 319 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 9: too knew governments could get out of hand. But that's 320 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 9: the real problem, and that's why if you nickel and 321 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 9: diamond around the edges, I I don't think. I don't 322 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 9: think it'll work very well. It might help, but I 323 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 9: think that it's the principle of government because there's so 324 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 9: many people involved for profits, money, and political power that 325 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 9: won't put up with it. 326 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 5: So, doctor Paul, let's dive into one of those elements 327 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 5: that you mentioned, which is that both sides, Republicans and Democrats, 328 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 5: are hesitant to cut spending about their kind of cherished 329 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 5: government program. On the Democrat side, it's welfare and just 330 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 5: general government waste. On the right though, on Republican side, 331 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 5: it's in the Department of Defense and the war industry. 332 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 5: You've been doing this for decades, literally, why is it? 333 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 5: Let me ask you this way before we go even 334 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 5: deeper in specifics. Is there almost a bipartisan agreement of 335 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 5: Republicans saying we won't touch welfare and Democrats saying we 336 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 5: won't touch the warmongering, and we end up with a 337 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 5: welfare warfare state. 338 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 9: Well, that's basically what's happened over the many decades. It's 339 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 9: probably not written, but it's understood because that's the way 340 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 9: it works. Because of course the uh it used to 341 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 9: be that you had a progressive part of the Democrat 342 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 9: Party and they were the anti war people. But now 343 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 9: there's hawk ish as some of the Republicans are. So 344 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 9: but they do come together. And I think it's if 345 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 9: you think of it only in terms of coalitions and Congress, uh, 346 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 9: we missed the whole point. The whole point is who's 347 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 9: who's pulling the strings behind the scenes, who who who's 348 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 9: paying the lobbyists, and the lobbyists have the deal with 349 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 9: people who uh, who have to make sure that they 350 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 9: get their you know things past. So a lot of 351 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 9: them just cave in for political reasons. Oh yeah, people say, well, 352 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 9: if you don't vote to cot, you're going to be 353 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 9: out of office and what good are you going to be? 354 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 8: So they badger you. But I don't think it's uh. 355 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 9: I think there's uh less of that understanding that one 356 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 9: side will go after spending for military, another on welfare. 357 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 8: I think both sides air. 358 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 9: On both shiah both issues. But that is a problem 359 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 9: because too many people become dependent. And of course I 360 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 9: always make the point that if you get it for free, 361 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 9: and that's what's the problem with our monetary sysm. 362 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 8: None of this could happen if you have had us on. 363 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 9: Monetary system where government could buy the debt. 364 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 8: So it's going to be handless. They're never going to 365 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 8: stop at TiO. 366 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 9: Something is done about the monetary system, and that'll take 367 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 9: care of itself eventually. 368 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 5: One of the most formative books I read growing up 369 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 5: in politics was Three Words and the Fed by doctor 370 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 5: Ron Paul. 371 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: It is a great. 372 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 5: Book I want to talk about after the break, doctor Paul, 373 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 5: and then go into some of the specifics because people 374 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 5: have no idea how wasteful and just how fraudulent the 375 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 5: United States government is spending your money. Remember it is 376 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 5: your money. It is not the government's money. It is 377 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 5: your money they take by force and then waste it 378 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 5: on all this nonsense. 379 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 4: Doctor Ron Paul continues after the break. 380 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm 381 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: Terrence Bates, Democrat, fundraising on the platform. Act Blue is 382 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: under the microscope this morning. Our John Solomon is in 383 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: New York and not New York. He's in Washington, DC. 384 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: Excuse me with the nitty gritty on what's happening here, John, 385 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: I'm just going to say the word subpoena. Please go. 386 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: That's right, that's the right word. 387 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: Last week at Wisconsin, judge issued the first court approved 388 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: subpoena's Act Blue. That's a fundraising platform has been around 389 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: two decades, raised about two billion dollars in small donations 390 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: for Democrats. The judge did so because a Republican consultant 391 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: has provided pretty significant proof that his email identity was 392 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 2: misused to make donations to Democrat candidates, that he didn't authorize, 393 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: that he didn't pay for it, and that has raised 394 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: concerns about whether there are straw donations going on. The 395 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: judge in Wisconsin issuing a subpoena overruling ACTBLU, which tried 396 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: to crosh that subpoena. It's going to require ACTLU to 397 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: give them the identity of the credit card holder who 398 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: actually made the donations in this gentleman's name. 399 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: Now why is that important? 400 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: Well, we know that Congress and nineteen Attorneys generals in 401 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: the States are also looking at whether ACTBLU has been 402 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: abused by people possibly to move a legal foreign money 403 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: into the twenty twenty four election. Congressman Chairman Chairman Brian 404 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: Style from the House Administration Committee James Comer from the 405 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: House Oversight Committee have issued subpoenas and they're about to 406 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: look at Treasury documents known as Suspicious Activity reports that 407 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: allegedly track foreign money into running through ActBlue to Democratic candidates. 408 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: So we're keeping a close eye and this expects some 409 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: major developments in the next couple of weeks. But the 410 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: newest development a subpoena issued by a court in Wisconsin. 411 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: And in thirty seconds though, so this is just another 412 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: black eye for Democrats as it relates to fundraising and 413 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: allegations that foreigners, as you said, are complicit and our 414 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: working with Democrats and meddling in our elections. 415 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: That is the concern. We're going to see if the 416 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: proof can back it up. But the subpoena should open 417 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: some new entryways for evidence to get into the court system. 418 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: Interesting story there. John Solomon reporting for US this morning 419 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. 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Continue with us as doctor Ron Paul, doctor, 443 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 5: I have to ask you, in all of your decades 444 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 5: of experience, what are a couple noteworthy element of government 445 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 5: waste that are just some of the most egregious. 446 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 9: Well, the one that bothers me the most, that continues 447 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 9: to is the analyst spending on unconstitutional, illegal and evil 448 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 9: wars that we have started with our deeply flawed foreign 449 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 9: policy of interventionism and not following the constitution because since 450 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 9: so for the Second World War, we've never even declared 451 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 9: or where we just go and do it. They don't 452 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 9: ask about why, what are we going to do, what's 453 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 9: the goal, how much is it going to cost? 454 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 8: Where are we going to get the money? 455 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 9: And that's big And because there's so many people that 456 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 9: die from this foreign policy, that is another reason that 457 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 9: we should all oppose it. But the whole thing is 458 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 9: it's sold on national security and patriotism and that's all 459 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 9: facad because it has nothing. I feel less safe, you know, 460 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 9: with our foreign policy. I don't feel safer. I was 461 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 9: in the military for five years. I have a little 462 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 9: bit of experience with it, but I don't think people 463 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 9: should feel reserved. I was drafted during the sixties and 464 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 9: that of course, was where the Vietnam War was going on. 465 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 9: And believe me, that was a mess. You know, we 466 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 9: elected Nixon to stop the war. After Nixon was elefted, 467 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 9: thirty four mid thousand Americans were killed. It's insanity. Yes, 468 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 9: food stamps and everything else. For this is food stamps 469 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 9: for the rich, and especially food stamps for the military 470 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 9: industrial complex. 471 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 8: That's the one that bothers me the most. 472 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 5: Well fair, doctor Paul, and so let's let's go through this. 473 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 5: According to publicly declared numbers, the US military spends around 474 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 5: eight hundred and eighty billion dollars a year. Russia's entire 475 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 5: defense budget is around one hundred billion. They lie about it, 476 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 5: they say it's eighty but it's probably closer to one 477 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 5: hundred billion. What are we doing spending eight times the 478 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 5: Russian military budget? 479 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 4: Where does that money go. 480 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 9: Into the pockets of the military industrial complex. 481 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 8: It's uh, the money never leaves. 482 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 9: The weapons, uh, you know, we send all these weapons 483 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 9: in Ukraine, in the Middle East and all these countries, 484 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 9: Syria and whatnot. But the money, the money is stolen 485 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 9: from the American people one way another, either by taxes 486 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 9: or by stealing the value of money through inflation, and 487 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 9: they and they tell they send that up to the 488 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 9: suburbs of Washington, d C. And the big companies. You know, 489 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 9: the F thirty five is a boondog. Oh I don't 490 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 9: know how many trullions it's been spent already is and 491 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 9: nobody believes it's a good airplane. 492 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 8: But it's being built. 493 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 9: Somebody said, what, every state has a piece of the action, 494 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 9: so they nobody will cut back. Oh, we'll lose jobs. 495 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 9: So that is why it's so vicious, and there's no 496 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 9: good intention. We do not It doesn't help us in 497 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 9: national security. It does exactly the opposite. And it works 498 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 9: real hard to uh, you know, cut back on it 499 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 9: and try to avoid the bankruptcy going on. 500 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 8: But uh, it's it's the principle. Of course. 501 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 9: My argument always is back, how do you pay for it? 502 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 9: And they can't. They couldn't do this if they didn't 503 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 9: have the FED, because no, they're not going to tax us, 504 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 9: but they'll steal the money and the taxes, the inflation tax. 505 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 9: When prices go up, that's a tax. So they do 506 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 9: it that way, and it's deceptive, and uh, it just 507 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 9: it's just despicable what they do. And I've been mocked 508 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 9: at the whole idea that, well, you guys want to 509 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 9: start another war, I'm going to introduce it on to 510 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 9: make it declare the war. I'm not going to vote 511 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 9: against it, but I'm going to make you guys vote 512 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 9: for That was when we were going into the Middle 513 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 9: East and uh, and they balked and mocked it. 514 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 8: I was told by the chairman of the committee, role 515 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 8: you worried too much. 516 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 9: That part of the constitution is we don't follow anymore. 517 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 9: It's not necessary and they don't. They don't follow that anymore. 518 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 9: So that's a you know, it's a combination of a 519 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 9: violation of the constitution, violation of morality, and then servicing 520 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 9: the very very wealthy and the military industrial conflict. 521 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 8: So that one gets gets me pretty annoyed. 522 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 5: So, doctor Paul, I want to dive deeper into one 523 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 5: of the elements here and explain it to the audience 524 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 5: that might not be as economically. 525 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 4: Initiated as you are. 526 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 5: Can you explain how a central bank allows for big 527 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 5: government programs to exist. It is the original sin and 528 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 5: it also is the operative initial ingredient. You cannot build 529 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 5: a recipe of big government spending without a central bank. 530 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 5: Can you please educate our audience on that. 531 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 9: Well, the whole thing is that if you didn't have 532 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 9: the central bank that have to get the money from somewhere, 533 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 9: people would have to a loan the money to the government. 534 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 9: They could borrow the money. But now all they have 535 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 9: to do the principle the economic activity is the monetizing 536 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 9: of debt. The FED doesn't buy the treasury bills and 537 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 9: the bonds directly, but there's dealers who are the middleman. 538 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 9: They buy and then the FED buys them up. So 539 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 9: where did the make a FED get the money to 540 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 9: buy these bonds. And while they do that, they're participating 541 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 9: and rigging interest rates for the benefit of the management 542 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 9: of the economy. Oh, they call them in these higher rates. 543 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 9: They don't know anything. It's really a monster. And so 544 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 9: I would say that if you're serious about cutting back 545 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,959 Speaker 9: on militarism and wars, you have to go ahead and 546 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 9: look into the Federal Reserve. And that's why I've spent 547 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 9: a couple of years of talk ago. You know, find 548 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 9: at least asking for an audit of the FED so 549 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 9: they look into it and see where it happened. You know, 550 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 9: when we have these international financial crisis they shift money 551 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 9: around to the trillions and trillions of dollars billing out 552 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 9: their friends and on the audit. That one of the 553 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 9: strongest arguments against the audit is, I want to know 554 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 9: what's going on internationally behind the scenes. It's never recorded, 555 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 9: and that's what they clink to the most. They don't 556 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 9: want to let anybody know what the FED does when 557 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 9: they're bailing out people. 558 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 8: I think, in a. 559 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 9: Way, I'm really amazed that this thing lasts as long 560 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 9: as it does because it's all fakery, but eventually at ends, 561 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 9: and the longer they keep propping it up and running 562 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 9: on police deaths. I saw a figure this morning about 563 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 9: how much debt into the trillions of dollars that student 564 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 9: loans are. They're never going to pay that back, you know, 565 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 9: it's just going to be written off and all. See. 566 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 9: I believe that all data and all mail investment has 567 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 9: to be liquidated. The data is there, it's too big. 568 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 9: We're never going to pay it down. And uh, the 569 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 9: mail investment. That is what business people do, and savers 570 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 9: and every paper does where they're deceived in they're thinking, oh, 571 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 9: interest rates are three percent, that's a good time to 572 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 9: invest in in condom mediums or some other business. But 573 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 9: real interest rates might be closer to what the what 574 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 9: the credit credit cards called real. 575 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 8: Interest rates being entertained. 576 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 9: Oh, I can't do this, but so it encourages bad judgment. 577 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 9: And the interest rates is the most important price, and 578 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 9: that is the price of money when it's loan down 579 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 9: of all prices. And as long as the Fed controls 580 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 9: that they're they're going to the bubble keeps building. So 581 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 9: it amazes me because it's a huge bubble. And uh, 582 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 9: it's it's starting to leak. And right now people are saying, well, 583 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 9: it was all bricks fall. We got a curtailed bricks 584 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 9: undermining the reserve currency of the world. 585 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 8: So we have to deal with them. 586 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 9: No, we have to deal with our system, and we 587 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 9: have to deal with providing a sound currency that deserves 588 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 9: to be called the reserve currency of the world. 589 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 5: So let's just think hypothetically here. The President Trump coming 590 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 5: as the incoming president, has a mandate to try to 591 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 5: reform government. And I know that you don't agree with 592 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 5: him on everything, but there certainly is that kind of energy. 593 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 5: What could the president do to audit to reform the 594 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 5: Federal Reserve without Congress? Could the President do anything. Could 595 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 5: he have a special FED czar. Could he instruct Scott 596 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 5: Bessant to look into. 597 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 4: This as Treasury Secretary? Could he send an elon. 598 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, in theory that's the case. 599 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 9: But I think the system is much bigger than that, 600 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 9: because the influence there is so great. You know, how 601 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 9: many trillions of dollars are involved in the military industrial conflict, 602 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 9: how many trilians and trillions and involved in the banking system. 603 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 9: And it would work, but I think they're sincere. 604 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 8: I think they'd like to do it. 605 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 9: Trump has said some encouraging things, but the obstacle is 606 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 9: tremulously huge, and that's why I hold back on sing, 607 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 9: oh boy, we're on the right track and a lot 608 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 9: of good things are happening. 609 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 6: You know. 610 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 8: One of the other big beefs. 611 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 9: Of course most libertarians and consertis ARENIDB is the Department 612 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 9: of Justice. 613 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 8: At least we're seeing that exposed. 614 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 9: And when the American people learned about what was going 615 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 9: on with COVID, the. 616 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 8: American people woke up. 617 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 6: You know. 618 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 9: I think it's I think there are good things going on, 619 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 9: and I think that's what Trump could do the best, 620 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 9: is wake people up to this. 621 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 8: Because one individual. 622 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 9: You know, it'd be nice to think all that his 623 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 9: way of a want, but you have to have a 624 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 9: consensus that people have to have a general belief in 625 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 9: what we have right now, the general If you said, oh, 626 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 9: Rob Paul's president, he can do it, he's getting rid 627 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 9: of the Fed, well it would work. 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Okay, everybody, welcome back. 683 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 5: Email us as always freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. 684 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 5: Doctor Paul he said, we should liquidate our debt. Wouldn't 685 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 5: that cause potential global markets to react quite violently. 686 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 4: How would we even do something like that. 687 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 9: Well, it is not so much that I just like 688 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 9: the idea of liquidating debt. I'm describing what the market 689 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 9: does because eventually, if you can't earn enough to pay 690 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 9: the interest, you know, the debt has to be liquidated. 691 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 9: And that is where we are now in our national budget. 692 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 9: We have to borrow money to pay the interest on 693 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 9: national debt. So it's gonna shrink it be good. People 694 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 9: will say, yeah, be good, we shouldn't have done all 695 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 9: that stuff, But it's not going to be paid off. 696 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 9: So it's liquidated by eliminating as value. So if you 697 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 9: double the money supply and the dollar loses half of 698 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 9: its value. 699 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 8: Your real debt goes down, and then the government likes that. 700 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 9: So the government benefits because real debt is down. 701 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 8: And that's sort of the argument. 702 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 9: Take out a loan, a thirty year loan, and by 703 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 9: the time it's by the time you have to pay 704 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 9: it off, you know, you know the money, it'll be 705 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 9: much cheaper for you. So it's this game they play. 706 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 9: But one way or the other, I think the market 707 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 9: very very powerful, and it will demand that you go 708 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 9: back to square one unless you have a very rich 709 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 9: uncle that's going to take care of you. 710 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 5: And so it's all about enlightenment and getting people to 711 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 5: realize the situation that we are in. And doctor Paul, 712 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 5: part of that is government run schools. President Trump has 713 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 5: pledged to break apart and end the Department of Education 714 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 5: and this idea that the state should be educating our children. 715 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 4: That is something you've been calling for for quite some time. 716 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 5: In fact, I remember you called for that in a 717 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 5: presidential debate back in twenty twelve, sun setting the Department Education. 718 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 5: I just want to tell you this is the power 719 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 5: of Ron Paul that, Doctor Paul, you were mocked. Remember 720 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 5: that when you said that we have to get rid 721 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 5: of the Department Education. People said, oh, that will never happen. 722 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 5: Now an incoming president has plans to give it is 723 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 5: all to do that. Your thoughts, Doctor Paul, Well, they're 724 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 5: moving in. 725 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 9: The right directions and people are realizing it. That will 726 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 9: be tremendous resistance because there's a lot of money involved. 727 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 9: But the truth about the government of Education is very 728 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 9: real and very bad. 729 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 8: But the other thing is. 730 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 9: I like to move back what would be ideal, and 731 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 9: the ideal is not available to us now, but I'm 732 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 9: involved in and that's home schooling and private schooling. But 733 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 9: that's a small percentage of people. But the Constitution didn't 734 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 9: prohibit the states from having a responsibility in education, so 735 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 9: they do so each It's sort of like, you know, 736 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 9: the horrible things about COVID, some people just moved away 737 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 9: from these states that abused the civil liberties, and they 738 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 9: people will move because of. 739 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 8: The educational system. 740 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:32,959 Speaker 9: To me, it's amazing that so many people will move 741 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 9: for those reasons, and it says sort of tells you 742 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 9: how smart the founders were. I'm sure they thought about that. 743 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 9: If there's individual countries there and there's freedom to move about, 744 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 9: and one country goes way off base, I think that 745 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 9: not a whole lot of people are moving leaving Texas 746 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,720 Speaker 9: and said, oh, I could find a better life in California. 747 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 9: You know, people were coming from California to Texas. So 748 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 9: that's that was one thing the founders did that we're 749 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 9: making use of. But really the moral thing is the 750 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 9: parents are responsible for the kid education of their kids 751 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 9: and they need to deal with it. And what you 752 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 9: think of wokeism in our public schools, it should excite 753 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 9: a lot of parents to do something about. 754 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,479 Speaker 4: It, well, said doctor Paul. 755 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 5: One minute remaining, Doctor Paul, are you optimistic that more 756 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 5: and more people are opening their eyes away from statism 757 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 5: and embracing a more liberty centric world view? 758 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, Mammy, I'm optimistic because I think the educational efforts 759 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 9: has been paning on. When I went first to Congress, 760 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 9: not that I had anything to do with it, but 761 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 9: nobody ever had heard about the Austrian economics. I'd have 762 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 9: people in major networks, what's this Australian economics all about? So, 763 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 9: but now a lot of people, a lot of people 764 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 9: know about it. And guess what they're even talking about 765 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 9: the ped somebody said, matter of fact, Tuckercarlson. So it 766 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 9: poked a little fun and he says he went on 767 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 9: one of our trips and here he's going to be 768 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 9: talking about it. 769 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 8: And then Tucker admitted he says, that's crazy. What is 770 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 8: he talking about? The bed? But then Tucker said he 771 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 8: had an enlightenment. 772 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 9: People did get interested, and I think has such a 773 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 9: big issue whether you're interested in welfare, is it the 774 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,959 Speaker 9: war war government? That is the way to current tail 775 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 9: and reintroduce the notions of personal liberty. 776 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 5: Doctor Ron Paul. You are a legend and we all 777 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 5: follow in your footsteps. You had the courage, you had 778 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 5: the clairvoyance, and you had the wherewithal to continue on 779 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 5: this great journey. 780 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: And thank you. 781 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 4: We follow you and you are an icon. Thank you, 782 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 4: doctor Paul. 783 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 8: Thank you, Joey. 784 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: Nice to be with you. 785 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 5: Okay, get your tickets dot com subscribe cast. I have 786 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 5: to go back and handle some things and we'll see tomorrow. 787 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 9: Hey,