WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: The Gate 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.360 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:15.200 Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:19.400 Rob Lamb. Joe is on parental leave, so I have 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.279 a special guest co host for this episode. It is 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:28.560 David Streepy, who co hosts the podcast Talking Tofu. Hey, yeah, 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:33.960 thank you, Congratulations to Joe. I'm a long time stuffy 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:36.840 And uh is that what you call your fans? Do 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.000 de your fans have a I don't think they have 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:44.160 a name that stuff mind these mind these mind these 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.239 weird houses. Maybe maybe yeah, I don't know that they 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.880 really call themselves anything. Do do fans of your podcasts 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:56.360 call themselves something? We call them toeheads, but I don't 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.400 I don't know anybody who has self identified as a 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.240 or you know, we we have fans, but I don't 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.240 know that anybody's waving the toehead flag really loudly and 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.840 proudly yet. But we're trying to get it in there. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.720 What's your quick uh you know, elevator pitch description of 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.600 talking Tofu? Oh, well, so my wife and I are 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.559 a couple of goblins when it comes to snacking. We're 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:23.880 both vegans. We couldn't really find a fun podcast about 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.520 vegan snacking, so we decided to make one ourselves. It's 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:33.000 i'd say, snacking and whatever else is going on in 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.600 our lives. Uh. We just finished a recording. We went 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.000 to Universal Studios, Florida try out the vegan food there. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:41.520 It was mostly about the rides that we rode and 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.600 the things that we encountered while we were there, a 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.640 little bit about the food, but just having fun with 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.640 our family. Uh. And and most episodes are kind of 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.559 followed that that trend. It's a very funny podcast though, 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.400 Thank you. There's a lot of laughter. Ah, you're too nice. 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.880 Thank you. And you guys have done some movie episodes 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.480 before as well. Uh talked about what are some of 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.000 the movies you guys have chatted about. Let's see, we've 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.120 done Scream three. I think we've done Scream too and 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.240 Scream three, and because this is spooky season, you may 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.560 expect Scream four to happen. We usually pair that with 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.480 some vegan candy that will we'll go through and snack 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:18.880 on while we recount the plot. We also do We've 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:23.160 done When Harry Met Sally, which I had never seen before, 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:25.840 which it's an amazing movie. Rob. I don't know if 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:27.240 you've seen it, this is the one with the big 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.040 Foot in it. The sasquatch. Now that's Harry and Henderson's 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:35.080 common misconception, very common misconception. That's the one I've seen. 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.880 Not this one. You gotta see when Harry met Sally. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.440 We should have done when Harry met Sally for Spooky Season. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.840 Fantastic movie, though, you gotta, you gotta check it out. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.840 I know the rest of the world was already there. 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.760 I was kind of late to the party. But it 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.320 really holds up. So yeah, we'll do that. Uh, we've 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:56.240 watched singles, the Cameron Crow movie from that's the grunge 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:01.200 scene and Seattle. It's probably not a very accurate representation 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.440 of the grunge scene in Seattle in nWo, but had 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.240 a lot of fun with that one. So yeah, it's 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.320 kind of all over the place. Things that one or 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.359 the other of us have held deer in our hearts 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:16.280 that the other one hasn't seen. Um. I think most 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:21.200 recently we did Hackers from Johnny Lee Miller, Angelina Jolie. 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.080 Fantastic movie. I mean, there's the there's a good movie, 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.239 there's a great movie. There's a fantastic movie. None of 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.240 these are objective terms, really, but for me just really 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.399 just hits me right right in the core. But hackers 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.040 accurate when it comes to the the hacking lifestyle of 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:41.800 the time period. Accurate. All computers on the inside look 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.440 like city escapes drawn in green lines that you have 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.160 to navigate through and find the right door to put 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:52.200 the right icon into. Yes, now, speaking of being late 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.880 to the party on films, the film we're gonna be 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:59.160 talking about here today is The Gate. This is a 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.040 film that I think we're both in the same boat 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:04.240 on this one, right. We we both have memories of 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.720 like at least some of the promotional materials for this film, 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.680 but neither of us had seen it until now. That's right. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.440 I was really familiar with this one as a kid. 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.080 I was pretty shy about scary movies as a kid, 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:26.080 and particularly I remember getting specifically burned with Poltergeist because 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.560 polter Geist I did see as a child, as an 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:32.000 eight year old, It had a child in it, so 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.080 I thought that it was okay for children, and that 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:39.279 film is very not okay for children. Um, very not 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.280 okay for children, not at all. I I too saw 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.640 poulter Geist at at a very young age. It was 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:46.400 one of these where I think my aunt had taped 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.440 a bunch of movies off of HBO, and I don't know, 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.320 I don't even know how this ended up happening, but 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.640 I ended up watching at least parts of Poulter Geist, 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.800 and it just really scared the heck out of me. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.520 I just I would even just hearing. It was one 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.960 of these things where whatever the movie was that was 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.839 taped there, like three movies taped per vhs, and whatever 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.360 was taped directly ahead of Poulter Guys was a family 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.359 film of some time, and so you had to like 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.159 to be super on your guard to stop the tape 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.000 before the Poulter Guy's intro started playing, because that alone 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.280 would create me out. I think Poulter Guist was one 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:26.480 that really stuck out to me, not just as incorrect 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:30.640 read that child means safe for children, but it was 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:35.159 gross horror, it was, and and that was the first 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:39.279 exposure that I had really had to gross out stuff 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.760 being in a film. So I thought that horror movies 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.600 were ghosts jumping out at you. I was a child. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.400 I had no idea. I thought that it was just 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.880 you know, haunted house things that that would scare you, 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:55.039 but the grossness of it fascinated and terrified me. It 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:58.919 was not I was not brave enough to overcome my 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:02.400 terror to and old the fascination of it. And still 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:03.920 it's one of those ones that to this day I 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.919 can't really go back to, just because of how badly 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.839 it scarred me as a child. But I guess my 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.279 point being that around that time I was seeing the 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.240 marketing for The Gate, I was seeing the marketing for House, 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.840 which was another movie. I lump all of those together 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:23.520 and kind of that not for me as a child, 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:28.520 uh not for me kind of category. The trailer and 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.440 the VHS art really stuck out to me and kind 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.120 of reinforced the not for me nous of it. I 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:40.400 think the and and um specifically the the poster art, 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.920 the VHS cover art. It's very sinister, very dark. Does 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.080 not seem like it's it's going to be for children. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:52.120 And I don't want to jump too far ahead. I 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.640 don't know that this movie is for children, but it's 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:59.400 definitely kid friendly, I think more than I was expecting. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.839 I'm sorry it's support The Gate is surprisingly kid friendly. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:06.280 And and yeah, that that comparison to polter Geist. I 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.640 think is very apted. It feels in many ways like 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.400 Polter Guys for kids. Like one of the things that 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.680 I still find terrifying and terrifying and super weird about 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.120 Poulter Guys, even looking back on it and having rewatched 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.680 it as an adult, is that it seems like a 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.120 movie where not just typical haunted house stuff happens, but 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.440 like you, but you don't know what will happen. There 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.880 seems to be no rules regarding what's going to jump 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.320 out at you. Um, one second, it's somebody thinks their 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.680 faces meat. Then then pizza is crawling around, and then 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.400 some sort of extra dimensional dragon is climbing out of 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:42.640 the wall or something. It's just whatever the effects team 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.520 can think of is gonna come at you. And there's 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.800 a similar vibe in The Gate. But at the same time, 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.680 the kids in the Gate uh feel like like real 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.600 central characters with with actual identities and relationships to each other, 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:00.920 and the film doesn't have a mean of active in 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.920 its relationship to those children, or presumably to the children 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.679 that maybe watching the film. That's that's a good point, 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:10.520 And I think a big difference for me would probably 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.760 be the and Polt You Guys they they wanted you 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.000 to either leave the house or they'd kill you. And 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.320 the Gate, I'm not really sure what the Gate want 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.440 or what the what the demons in the Gate want. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.840 They don't They only seem to want to get out 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.160 of the Gate, and I guess I guess that's it. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.840 I guess they don't care who's in their path or 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.240 what happens to the people in their path. But then 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.000 they spend a lot of time with the people who 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.640 are in their path, and and that kind of confuses 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.199 me a little bit about it too. We'll discuss when 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:43.480 we get into the plot. They do seem to have 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.040 a couple of things they need to check off the 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.560 Box and then maybe one big objective, but kind of 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.839 a roundabout way to get there. Yeah, it doesn't seem 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.120 like there's a solid plan that they can refer to. 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.040 It's it's a lot of instinct. Yeah. I never saw 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.400 this film as a kid. I remember seeing The Box sorry, 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:05.319 weirdly enough, at some point I remember I watched the sequel, 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.560 The Gate two on TV at some point in the nineties, 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.880 I'm sure. And the main thing that sticks out to me, 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.000 and that is that it features a lot of demonic 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.920 wish granting, in which the thing that you wished for 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.320 literally literally turns to poop, like the next day. So 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.080 there's like a scene where the night before some awful 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.240 teenager wish for a sports car and you know he's 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.200 torn around all over the place in the sports car 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.319 during the night. The next day there's just like an 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.760 elephant's worth of poop in front of the house. And 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:36.080 this happens multiple times. Well, I think, so, yeah, anything 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.400 you wish for it turns to poop. What So I 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.440 don't want to get too hung up on this, but 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.760 is this the same big demon from the Gate one? 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.679 I don't remember. The only thing I remember vaguely is 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.160 the older Terry character and played by the same actor, 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.880 like he's back in the sequel. Some of the creative 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.720 team and the director of the same But the only 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.600 thing I remember is demonic we should turned to poop 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.600 the next morning. And you know, at the time, it 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.200 was like, all right, well, that makes sense that that's 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.400 the that's a that's a bull's eye of a premise. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:12.520 And I love the idea that this demon tried his 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.120 best to get out of that gate legitimately in this 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:19.800 episode or in this movie. But then in his retirement 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:25.040 he just kind of became a trickster wish fulfillment, and 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.679 and that was how he went out. You know, yeah, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.640 I don't remember. I can't really speak to the quality 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.760 of Gate two, but I do admire that they went 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:35.800 in a slightly different direction on it. They didn't just 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.760 do the Gate again. But at any rate, Uh, the 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:43.200 Gate too is a discussion for another time. We're here 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.000 to talk about the Gate. So you mentioned that trailer. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.760 Let's go ahead and listen to that trailer audio right here. Great, 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.439 there is a passage way to the most evil place. 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:59.720 You can imagine a gate behind which the demons winked 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:11.600 dig back what was one's things, And now someone has 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:19.160 opened the gate as weird tearing sound, decomposed corns her 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:30.559 dead father, who knows, tearing out by the hands and 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:46.880 halling the fleece. You got demons. I mean, you guys 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:54.480 are serious about that demon stuff. Demons were kind, you've 0:11:54.960 --> 0:12:15.520 been bad. They have great it's not truly alright, great trailer, 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.079 probably not loyal to the actual tone of the film, 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.240 but we have excellent narration by the great Percy Rodriguez, 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.200 who lived through two thousand and seven. He was also 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.600 an accomplished actor, but he did a ton of voiceovers 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.960 for film trailers in the seventies and eighties, and his 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.760 voice alone is to make is enough to make you think, well, 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.560 this is not for children. Listen to this very scary 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:41.560 adult talk about the gate on this. This reinforces the hey, 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.360 this is not for me. It also really showcases some 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.800 of the movie's biggest moments and gives you some of 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.199 the biggest effects. It holds a few things back, but 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:54.679 the overall tones very sinister. It's very dark. It seems 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.599 paced as almost kind of a torturous movie like the 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.040 It really showed as is the peril that the kids 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:06.400 are all in and kind of their reaction to that peril. So, yeah, 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.160 if I had the GBS hearing about this movie, this 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.680 trailer definitely would have scared me away for good. Yeah, 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.360 it's a lot of screaming kids, but you don't really 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.360 see all the scenes of kids being strong in it, 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:17.640 and there there are a lot of scenes where the 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.199 kids are brave and and admirable in the film. But yeah, 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.520 also it does spoil a lot of the big effects 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.720 in the movie, So don't watch the trailer if you 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:28.800 are looking to go into this one kind of fresh. 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.880 I think the uh I was blessed with distance between 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:35.480 the last time I had seen the trailer for this 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.640 movie and actually watching the movie, because I came into 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.440 it pretty cold and then rewatched the trailer after the fact, 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.160 and I was really glad I did, because I was 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.240 very surprised by how competent this movie is and by 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:51.080 how much I enjoyed everything that happened in it, even 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.880 though it wasn't what I was expecting it to be. Yeah, 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.560 all right, before we get into the connections the people 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.360 involved in this movie, Uh, where can you watch it? Well? 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.760 The gate is it was a fairly big release. It's 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:05.120 widely available for digital purchase and rental everywhere. I streamed 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.439 it as part of AMC Plus, but I think it's 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.440 also available on some free streaming sites. And there's also 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.520 a pretty stacked Blu ray edition that came out in 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:18.080 seventeen and that's loaded with extras. It's amazing to me that, uh, 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.440 such a lovingly curated blue ray would exist of this movie. 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.720 It amazes me that there's a sequel to it and 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.000 it you know, it strikes me as a largely forgotten 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.360 film and that's clearly not the case. That's my misery 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:33.320 to the of how of what his legacy is. All right, 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.960 let's start at the top. The director is Taibor Talkatch 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.880 born nineteen fifty four, Hungarian born director who kicked off 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:45.080 his career with the eight Canadian dystopian rock opera Metal 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:50.640 messiah Um. After this film, he did nins I, Madman, 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:55.240 and The Gate Too. He directed four different episodes of 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.040 the nineteen nineties Outer Limits series Dave WHOA. I don't 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.520 know if we've actually any of these. They include If 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.760 These Walls Could Talk, The Voyage Home, White Light Forever, 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:08.760 and Blood Brothers. The Voyage Homes sounds familiar, but that's 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.840 also Star Trek movie, so I might just be thinking 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.680 of that. His subsequent credits include a mix of TV 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:19.160 episodes and eventually some sci fi original programming. Uh you 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:23.520 know that Caliber film, including two thousand five Man Squito, which, 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.840 at the time when it first came out, I think 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.440 looked pretty bad, but we had no idea about how 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:33.640 bad direct to sci fi channel movies would get. And 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.480 you know I I today, I am committing to come 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:42.840 back for your your Man Squito episode. I'm not brave 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.160 enough yet I'm gonna get my courage up, all right. 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.800 So that's the director. The writer is Michael Nankin born. 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:55.960 Accomplished TV director, writer, and producer. He wrote seven Ruskies 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.080 and episodes of TV shows such as Life goes On, 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:04.040 Chica Hope, the nineties Flippers Show. As a director, he's 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.520 done a ton of TV work, including episodes of Life 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:11.120 Goes On, the Battlestar Galactica reboot, and one episode of 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.720 The Good Lord Bird. And I think he also wrote 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.920 I Madman as well. Huh. You know, it doesn't surprise 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.520 me that he's predominantly a TV writer because I got 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.280 a very TV vibe from the snappiness of the dialogue 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.920 in this movie, especially the way that the children talked 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.480 to each other. I thought was very authentic first of all, 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:33.200 but also really snappy. Yeah. I don't clearly remember specific 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.240 episodes of Life Goes On, but I think I watched 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.320 some of it, and it was just that was a 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.480 time during which I watched a lot of TV, so 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.360 even if I didn't watch the show directly, I was 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.400 very aware of it. And uh yeah, there was like 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.840 there's a wholesomeness to that show that makes sense once 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.960 you've watched The Gate all the way through. Otherwise you 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:51.600 might think life goes on in the Gate. What could 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.800 they possibly have in common? Well, you know, there's you 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:56.400 get down to some of the character work. I think 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.280 it makes sense. I think there's there's definitely a thread 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.640 in the amount of care and respect given to a 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.239 family dynamic, and especially the way that kids interact with 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:08.199 each other, which is really difficult I think for an 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.560 adult to write, Well, let's get into the kids. In fact, 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.960 I don't have any data in here on the adult 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.040 actors in the film. Uh, they all have just brief 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.159 roles for the most part, mom and dad and dad 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.439 and any any adult supervision is completely absent from the 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:26.040 entire film, which was an interesting choice. Yeah. I think 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.760 that the parents occupy maybe forty five seconds of screen time, 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.800 and most of that time they are either punishing the 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:38.920 children or bad mouthing the Glenn's friend to Glenn, which 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:43.040 is just just bad behavior. Yeah, alright, well Glenn. Yeah, 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:46.359 Glenn is our central character, our main kid in this, 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:52.639 and interestingly enough is played by Stephen Dorff. Yeah. This 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:56.639 is the film debut of Stephen Dorff for nine. I 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:58.919 think he's like twelve in this though he looks he 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:00.879 looks even younger you by I am as even younger. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:02.119 I think a lot of it has to do with 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.040 the fact he has a very you know, he has 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.000 a little bit of baby fat in his face, still 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:11.680 has a you know, very childlike quality to his face. Definitely, 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.520 twelve is a shock to me. I would have said eight, 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.240 seven or eight. Now when we say the name Stephen Dorff. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.720 Most people out there probably familiar with him from such 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.720 works as Uh His Blade. Of course, he plays the 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:29.000 villainous Deacon Frost opposite Wesley Snipes in that film. He 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.280 was in UH Stewart Gordon Space Truckers in nineties six. 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.280 He did some bigger also some bigger roles in the 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:40.359 early nineties, including the Power of One and Post Blade. 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.760 He was in such films as John Waters Cecil Be 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.119 Damned in two thousand is in a what I remember 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.080 is being a terrible horror movie from two thousand and 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:51.880 two Fear dot Com. I've never seen any of these movies. 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.600 Having not seen Blade is one of my secret shames, 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.200 so I'm glad to reveal it here for your listeners. 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.800 I do need to correct, especially before you know the 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:07.639 rebooted Blade comes out. Um, So, yeah, the The Gate 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:12.320 is of my exposure to Stephen Dorf and and it's 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.960 a good one. Now, prior to this, he he did 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:18.600 have some rolls um on a few different TV shows, 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.320 including the new Leave It to Beaver, Different Strokes, and 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:24.920 in Love and War. I'm not familiar with that last one, 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.400 but but yeah, he'd already gotten his feet a little 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:31.160 bit wet in the whole child actor realm. And then 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.600 he's off to the races as the star of the 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.800 Gate and he does it competently. I can't. He carries 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.679 so much of this movie. It's it's really hard to 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:45.560 overstate how competent of an actor is in this one. Yeah, 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.840 it's it's shocking, especially that there are times too where 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.959 you he'll he'll act in a certain way and you 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:55.080 can sort of see the grown up um Stephen Dorff 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.720 through him, especially if you've seen other Stephen Dorf films 0:19:57.720 --> 0:19:59.800 and you're like, it's it's it's kind of weird. It's 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:03.479 like staring through a time tunnel or something. All Right. 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:07.520 So that's Glenn, the the the Brother, and then we 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:12.679 also have Glenn's sister, al al Is played by Krista Denton. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.560 Born nineteen seventy two, and I think she has a 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:18.640 great job in this too. She was only active from 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:23.040 through nineteen nine. This is probably her most prominent role, 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:26.280 but she also had some parts in Nive, the Bad 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.800 Seed nine eight six is eight Million Ways to Die 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:34.159 and some episodes of Silver Spoons Growing Pains, and the 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.399 new Leave It to Beaver. Now. What I lack in 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.120 Blade knowledge I make up for in the new Leave 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.960 It to Beaver knowledge. I was pretty fond of this 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:46.359 series as a child. It was on some syndication for 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:48.480 it couldn't have been more than a summer or a 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:50.919 summer at a fall. But when it was there, I 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:54.359 was fascinated with the idea of reboots. I had obviously 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.160 seen Leave It to Beaver on Nick at Night and 0:20:57.520 --> 0:20:59.760 was just fascinated by the fact that they could grow 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.720 up and continued the series later, a premise that is 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.040 just worn to shreds at this point with every show 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.679 under the sun, the question of oh what would they 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:10.600 be like now? You know, but back then it was 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.440 still pretty novel. You know, you had your Return to Mayberry's, 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.120 you had your new Leave It to Beaver, but this 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:20.600 one to to take kind of a sidebar. It started 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:24.919 in nine three as a two hour movie made for 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:30.040 television called Still the Beaver. That movie, UH featured Ed 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:35.160 Bigley Jr. Featured a young Corey Feldman not I don't 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.879 think this was his first role or anything, but um, 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:41.680 some pretty pretty star studded made for TV movie back then. 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:45.359 You know they were to some actors from the original 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.800 Leave It to Beaver, right, I think so. Yes, Jerry 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:51.719 Mathers does reply reprise his role as the Beaver, and 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.520 that's consistent with the series as well. Uh. Ed Baigley 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:59.200 Junior Corey Feldman do not hang around for the series. 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:01.280 I think the series doesn't happen until a couple of 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:04.880 years later, mid to late eighties. So I think they 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.320 rebooted the reboot kind of in that time, but it's 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:12.120 all lumped under one new Leave It to Beaver umbrella. 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.200 I didn't realize that it went a hundred and two 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:19.680 episodes four seasons, because I I remember I remember this existing. 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.720 I remember having watched reruns of Leave It to Beaver 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:27.320 on nickod Night. I remember parents and grandparents attesting to 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:29.159 the fact that yes, this is a good show, and 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.480 then I remember coming to them excited and saying, guess 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:35.040 what leave it to? Beaver is back? And maybe it was. 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:36.840 It was a little bit shocked that they weren't as 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:40.840 excited as I was. I specifically remember an episode where 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:44.359 there were a pair of tennis shoes that some child 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:46.600 in the show really wanted I guess the Beaver's son 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:49.239 or something, and they were called Earth Angels, and they 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:52.040 would play that song Earth Angel every time he was 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:56.399 lusting after these beautiful sneakers that had little wings on them. 0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:59.040 That's pretty great. That's pretty great. I think with the 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:02.240