1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: Albert Breer has been to seventeen training camp so far 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: this season. He is at the Kansas City Chiefs camp 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: and they actually have an urgent need at left tackle, 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: and they went and got a kid at Ohio State 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: that got banged up. But it is supposed to be 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: Some people have said Josh Shimmons is going to be 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: the steal of the late first round. And by the way, 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: the two times the Chiefs have been blown out in 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: a playoff game, they've had a left tackle issue. So 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, you pay the quarterback that becomes one of 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: those positions. How many people can you pay? What do 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: you hear on the that that could be toony left? 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: So you probably won't be as good on the interior. 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: You can't be average at left tackle. How are they there? 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: They look great? 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: And I'll say this Colin like there's not even a 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: competition at that spot. 25 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: That's how impressed they are with Josh Simms. 26 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 4: He has taken every single first team roun through three 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: weeks of training camp. No one else is working there, 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: just Josh Simmons. They feel like he is rare physically. 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 4: There's no sign of the injury, which that's a bad 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 4: injury for a big man tell attendance, So that box 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: has been checked and that was a big one for 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 4: a lot of teams going into the draft. 33 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: And he has shown. 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 4: Increased maturities, working really hard, and so you know, I 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 4: think a lot of people came into camp and said, Okay, 36 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 4: is Simmons going to be ready? Is it going to 37 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: be Simmons or Jalen Moore at left tackle? Now the 38 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: question is who's going to be the right tackle. It's 39 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 4: gotten to the point where Josh Simmons is cemented in 40 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 4: there as the Chiefs left tackle and they got Jawan 41 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: Taylor and Jalen Moore competing at right tackle, which means 42 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: you're either going to have a backup swing tackle making 43 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: fifteen million per year or twenty million per year, which 44 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 4: is a pretty good problem to have when you consider 45 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 4: how the season ended last year for. 46 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: Them, So it's interesting the NFC North, the Bears have 47 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: been noisy, the Vikings have been noisy, the Lions lost 48 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: their coordinators, and you're at the Green Bay camp. 49 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 5: It may be the quietest camp. 50 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: And I haven't heard a story from the Green Bay 51 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: Packers camp, which I think both you and I love 52 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: that they're just you know, and I think we forget 53 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: that Jordan Love wasn't healthy for two different times during 54 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: the year and they won double figure games. What was 55 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: your takeaway on the very very quiet Green Bay Packer camp. 56 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean just talking to Jordan like, I mean, 57 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: really until the end of the year, he wasn't fully 58 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: healthy because you had the need, then you had the groin, 59 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: and so he was really figuring out how to play 60 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: with these injuries through a good portion of the year. 61 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 4: And I know he's been criticized that he wasn't as 62 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: good as he was at the end of the year before, 63 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: but they still made the playoffs and they were still 64 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: competitive with the Super Bowl champions when they got there, 65 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: So you know, look like I think Jordan Love is 66 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 4: in this grouping of players with the Packers where they 67 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: feel like they've done a good job putting a lot 68 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 4: of solid guys in the roster, right, and they've got 69 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: a lot of these guys who are going to be 70 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 4: up for contracts in the next few years. So can 71 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: the good players in their roster become great players? And 72 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: you know, as in the receiver room with guys like 73 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: D'antavian Wicks and Jayden Ree, Christian Watson when he comes 74 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 4: back off the injury, Matthew Golden coming in from Texas. 75 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: What does the left tackle position look like? Is it 76 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: Rashid Walker? 77 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: Is it Jordan Morgan who's been playing guard for them 78 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: as a former first round pick? 79 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: On defense? 80 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: They've got four first round picks on their defensive line 81 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: between van Ness, Gary Clark and Wyatt? 82 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: Is there a fifteen SAT guy in that group? 83 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: And then at corner you got a guy like Bo 84 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: Melton moving over from the offensive side. So they feel 85 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: really good about their roster across the board like there 86 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: aren't a lot of holes there. Drian Cooper's another name 87 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: I should mention, a guy who's got really high ceiling. 88 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 4: And now I think for the Packers it's if they're 89 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: going to go from being a nine or a ten 90 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: or eleven team to being a twelve or thirteen win 91 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 4: team that's. 92 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: Playing home games in the playoffs. 93 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: I think they're going to need a handful of those 94 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: guys to elevate from being pretty good players on a 95 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: balanced roster to becoming great players. 96 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: So Cincinnati Bengals the last year, Joe Burrow did not 97 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: even hide. He was perpetually grumpy. And I think a 98 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: lot of it was he knew he's sending a signal 99 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: do we have to not? Let's get Trey Hendrickson in there. 100 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: What was your takeaway a couple of days in Cincinnati's camp. 101 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: But the offense is going to be incredible. The ball 102 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 4: hit the ground twice at the practice that I was at. 103 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: And yes, it's Joe Burrow and it's Jamar Chase and 104 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 4: as Te Higgins who have a chance to be intergalactic together. 105 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 4: But it's also smaller things like a Marius MEM's coming 106 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: back at offensive tackle, wildly. 107 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: Talented, just needs to play. 108 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 4: Mike Disicky is the first time they've had a pass 109 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 4: catching tight ending consecutive season since Joe Burrow has been there. 110 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 4: Andrea Savis, the Hepta athlete from Princeton who really earned 111 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 4: Burrow's trust last year, Jermaine Burton, He's got a really 112 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: high ceiling. It looks like maybe he's growing up a 113 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 4: little bit. Chase Brown looks like he can be the 114 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 4: guy in the backfield. So they put all of it together, 115 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 4: the offense is going to be off the charts. I 116 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: think Burrow's got a chance to be the MVP of 117 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 4: the league. And then the question becomes, can they be 118 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: middle of the pack after being really bad defensively last year. 119 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 4: A lot of that's going to come down to the 120 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: new coordinator now Gold, and then the two edge rushers. 121 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 4: To me, Trey Hendrickson, what does he look like when 122 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 4: he gets back. I think they will get him signed, 123 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 4: and then Shamar Stewart, the rookie at of Texas A 124 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: and M. If they can just be average on defense, 125 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: I think they have a chance to come out of 126 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 4: the AFC. Remember call Hing They're the last team other 127 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: than the Chiefs come out of the AFC. So the 128 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: offense should be off the charts. It's just can they 129 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: be middle of the pack on defense? That might be 130 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: good enough. 131 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: Every single reporter so I have to ask you this. 132 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: There's gone to the Broncos camp, There's gone to Denver's 133 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: Camp has come out of there too and just gone, Man, 134 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: they like their team. Is that the vibe you got? 135 00:05:59,160 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? 136 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and look like the number one defense in the league. 137 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 4: Last year we got Vance Joseph coming back, which is 138 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 4: a luxury because he was up for some head coaching jobs, 139 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 4: and they're adding Drake Greenlawn Tallanoah Funga. It's the middle 140 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 4: of the defense. Those are two guys. The Niners did 141 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: not want to lose the cap realities there in San Francisco, 142 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 4: which forced them to let those guys go. So you've 143 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 4: got this defense that should be off the charts. And 144 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 4: I'm not sure bo Nix gets the credit for the 145 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: job that he did last year because I mean Colins 146 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 4: just you know, I look at the history of it, right, 147 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: like the young quarterbacks who played really well. Patrick Mahomes 148 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: had Tyreek Hill when he was young, Josh Allen had 149 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs when he was young. Is there a guy 150 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: I'm not saying Courtland Sutton and Marvin Mims and those 151 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: guys can't play, but is there a guy who is 152 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 4: like this great player that's really lifting bow up? Or 153 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 4: did Boa just play really well with a good not 154 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 4: great group around him? 155 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: I think it's the latter. And now you add RJ. 156 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: Harvey, who they think a lot of you know from UCF, 157 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: the running back that got in the second round. You 158 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: add Evan Ingram brings him an element at tight end 159 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: they haven't had, so like I think the Broncos gonna 160 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 4: be right there in the mix. The question to me 161 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 4: is what happens in the AFCU West where I think, 162 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: you know, the top three teams there could cannibalize each other. 163 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: And I think by the end of the year the 164 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: Raiders are going to be tough out too. 165 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: One more Heard. 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I'm shocked 184 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: by the way because I think Adam Peters is really smart. 185 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah here, here's what I would say. 186 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: I think part of it is like frustration from Terry 187 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 4: because he knows the value that he's provided that franchise. 188 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 4: And I think in some ways it becomes harder to 189 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: sign a guy like that because they know how much 190 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: they put in right like so beyond just being a 191 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: great receiver, consistent as hell, a great teammate, he's been 192 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 4: the bellweather through some real storms there, you know, since 193 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen. He was there for Gruden to Rivera, there 194 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: for Rivera to Quinn, there for the ownership change, there 195 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 4: for the nickname change. And I think because of that, 196 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: like you know, he feels and rightfully so that he 197 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 4: should be rewarded at the highest level. Meanwhile, you've got 198 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: an organization that is becoming increasingly data driven under new ownership, 199 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: and Adam Peters and Dan Quinn have done a great job, 200 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: but they've been very disciplined in how they handle assets. 201 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: And so I think it's sort of. 202 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 4: That the player knowing I'm worth the world to them, 203 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: and I'm a symbolic of what they've been trying to 204 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 4: build here and finally got built last year. And on 205 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: the other side, you might have some people in the 206 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: front office that are like, we love Terry, there's nothing 207 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: we don't like about Terry, but he's going to be 208 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: thirty in September, and what does that mean for him 209 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 4: going forward. I'm personally an opinion that you aren't going 210 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: to regret paying Terry McLaurin two or three years from now. 211 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: I have a really hard I've seen that scenario, but 212 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: it is in a little bit of a tough spot. 213 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: And well, if I asked you about J. J. McCarthy, 214 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay away from that. Final question. The shaduor 215 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: Sanders stuff is I mean, it got so zany this 216 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: week there was the Browns are sabotaging him discussion, which 217 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: like they need him to be good and they got 218 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: to get out from under that ridiculous to Sean Watson thing. 219 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: So he plays tomorrow. I can't wait to watch him. 220 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the kid. What are you hearing in Cleveland? 221 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 4: Just that he when he came in, he was pretty 222 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 4: far behind and that there was a sizable gap between 223 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 4: him and Dylan Gabriel just from a football no how standpoint, 224 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: from an operation of the offense standpoint, and that's without 225 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: even mentioning the gap between him and the two veterans there, 226 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett. 227 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 3: So he had a lot of ground to make up 228 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: for sure. 229 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: You know, teams and I think I told you this 230 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: call on teams before the draft were surprised how far 231 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: behind he was in that in those areas, and that 232 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: showed up right away. He's worked hard to try and 233 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 4: catch up. I think the reason why he hasn't gotten 234 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: first team reps right, and that's been a big thing 235 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 4: in Cleveland. Why is Dylan Gabriel getting the first team reps? 236 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: And he doesn't look great, but she do or isn't. 237 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 4: I think the main reason why is because, to be 238 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 4: fair to the other ten guys in the huddle, the 239 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 4: veterans who are getting ready for a season. You need 240 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 4: to have somebody who can step in there and operate 241 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 4: the offense efficient and I just don't think Chador has 242 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 4: gotten there yet. Now by happenstance, he winds up getting 243 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 4: the shot to start tomorrow. I think playing well with 244 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: the twos and the threes against the Panther starters could 245 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 4: buy him some more opportunities in practice. And that's the 246 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 4: first thing he needs now is more opportunities in practice. 247 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: But having to get caught up just from a football 248 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: no house standpoint is why he's been behind since the 249 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 4: spring at the Chiefs camp. 250 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 5: Albert Breer, Monday morning, quarterback. Good saying you, but I. 251 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, all right, thanks Colin. Hustling forrest and we 252 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: do appreciate that. J. 253 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 5: Mack with the news. 254 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: Turn on the news. This is the herd line News. 255 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 7: All right, Colin, let's start with Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings. 256 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 7: You know, he's had a lot of regular season success 257 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 7: with this squad. I mean, Sam Darnold, it's been awesome. However, 258 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 7: he does not have a playoff win. Now he's got 259 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 7: JJ McCarthy at quarterback. Here's O'Connell's loftiest goal for this season. 260 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 8: As I told our team when we came back to 261 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 8: training camp, I think the foundation's been set, and I 262 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 8: think that a lot of the players that we've been 263 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 8: able to either sign him for agency or were fortunate 264 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 8: to draft in the draft, they're here and they understand 265 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 8: that they're now part of building that up to either 266 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 8: in even greater heights. But the next step for this 267 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 8: organization is becoming, in my opinion, championship worthy. 268 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think. 269 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's an unfair criticism that he hasn't 270 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: won a playoff game. 271 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 6: Well, Colin, sorry, it's not a criticism, it's just a fact. 272 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it's it's slanted and the way it's 273 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: delivered is, you know, he hasn't won a playoff game. 274 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: I take his Sam Donald, ninety percent of fans in 275 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: the league had given up on him. 276 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 5: He was an MVP leader week fourteen. Yeah, he did it. 277 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell had a remarkable to build up Donald's confidence. 278 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Sam Donald was beaten up when he went 279 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: to San Francisco to back up Rock Perty. 280 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 5: He was upstairs. He was beaten up. 281 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right? 282 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 7: Under the next Jordan Love, Colin, Green Bay Packers a 283 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 7: bit of a sexy Super Bowl pick. I think we'll 284 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 7: be talking about them in the next segment. Now, one 285 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 7: interesting note on Jordan Love is he only ran the 286 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 7: ball twenty five times last season. 287 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 6: Was that due to injuries? Was that due to the. 288 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 7: Coach wanted to win from the pocket. Well, here's Jordan 289 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 7: Love talking about running more this season. You look back 290 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 7: and you're like, man, I gotta took off and run. 291 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 7: Love said, a little of it is just understanding what 292 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 7: the defense is doing, what coverage we're getting here, how 293 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 7: the defensive line might be playing with some of these 294 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 7: games started twisting and doing different things. Colin, It sounds 295 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 7: like Love wants to win with his legs a little 296 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 7: more this season. He ran fifty times two years ago, 297 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 7: cut in half to twenty five now. He did have 298 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 7: a couple of injuries. They suffered miss I believe two 299 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 7: games this season. 300 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 6: Your thoughts on Jordan Love wanting to. 301 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: Run more, Well, I think when you're Jordan Love, you 302 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: should let you should go about three times a game. 303 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: And I always feel that's my homes He's gonna smoke 304 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: you twice in the second half. Keep you honest in 305 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: the first half. If you run three times a game, 306 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: that's fifty one times. I'm totally comfortable with that. 307 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 7: Final story, Colin is the Travis Hunter experiment in Jacksonville. 308 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence, Oh, he is a little bit biased. 309 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 7: But when he was asked about Travis Hunter playing both ways, 310 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 7: and Lawrence had an opinion, you won't be surprised. 311 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 9: He's so talented man, it's hard to keep him off 312 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 9: the field. Selfishly, yeah, I definitely want to want offense more. 313 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 9: That's almost like do you want to you want to 314 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 9: come catch touchdowns or you want to maybe break up 315 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 9: a pass or to a game like, yeah, that's incision 316 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 9: you gotta make. So now he'll he'll make plays no 317 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 9: matter where he's at, honestly, and of course as a quarterback, 318 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 9: I hope he plays more offense. But you know, wherever 319 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 9: he needs to play to make our team better, as 320 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 9: he will make us better is what's going to happen. 321 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 5: So all for whatever that is, you. 322 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: Know, a little pressure on Trevor this year, he's got 323 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: two star receivers. Travis will be his star right out 324 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: of the gate. Brian Thomas was excellent. Now it's time 325 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: for Travis Trevor. Trevor dust a healthy too, So I 326 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: don't buy the excuses. He's got an offensive coach, two weapons. 327 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't think their all line is bad. I think 328 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: it's time. They've had too many good draft picks. They 329 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: got too much talent on that team, and the division's 330 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: week they need to vie with Houston for the division title. 331 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I totally agree, and sorry for the solemn tone, 332 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 7: but it's increasingly looking like Slater. 333 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 6: It's an ACL that's the fear for the Chargers. That 334 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 6: just sucks. 335 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: Yikes. 336 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 5: Jmack with the news. 337 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The 338 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: Herd Line News. Be sure to catch live editions of 339 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: The Herd weekdays and neon Easter nine am Pacific on 340 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 341 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: All Right, Last week, the Hall of Fame game Shader 342 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: Sanders Tomorrow gets his first start. It may only be 343 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: the preseason, but Jay knows, he knows how the playoffs 344 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: are going to settle these way ahead of us here 345 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: in early August. So we call this segment Tomorrow's Headlines Today. 346 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 5: Let's roll it. 347 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: What will the headline be for the number seven seed, 348 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: the final seed in the NFC playoffs. 349 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 6: Right, So we're working backwards here. 350 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 7: There are some surprises because you, as you've taught me 351 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 7: in the last few years around the show, there's a 352 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 7: lot of new playoff teams every year, some we don't 353 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 7: see coming. So the number seven seed of the NFC, 354 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 7: the headline will b Marvin the Martian cosmic quarterback connection 355 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 7: disrupts NFC universe. I have the Arizona Cardinals sneaking in 356 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 7: as the number seven seed. Marvin Harrison obviously will make 357 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 7: a massive leap in year two, really struggled as a rookie. 358 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 7: But Colin, that offense should be sick in year three 359 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 7: under Jonathan Gannon, Kyler Murray sounds like. 360 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 6: He's gotten back to the books if you will. Obviously, 361 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 6: McBride's one of the best tight ends in the league. 362 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 7: The run game is formidable, Colin. This is a team 363 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 7: that played everybody tough last year. Yeah, they came out 364 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 7: of the gate, they were fighting hard. The schedule was 365 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 7: just difficult. Now, obviously you get a much better schedule, 366 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 7: you get the offensive continuity. I have currently all eleven 367 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 7: starters are back from last year. Currently that's a projection. 368 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 7: That's very good news. Hey, Arizona sneaking in. 369 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 6: As the seventh seed. 370 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 5: Don't hate it, you know. 371 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: I like Tyler Murray Tomorrow's headlines today. What's the number 372 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: sixth seed in the NF seed. 373 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 7: This team's not gonna sneak up on anybody in year two. 374 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 7: But they also continuity is a theme for me. They 375 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 7: had a really good year last year. I think they 376 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 7: do most of it again. The headline for the number 377 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 7: six seed will be Federal Reserved Commanders. 378 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 6: Keep the rate of interest high. Sorry for the political jargon, 379 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 6: but it's funny. 380 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 381 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 6: So I like Washington a lot. 382 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 7: Listen, man, you had Deebo, Samuel Laramie Tunsel like those 383 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 7: are big time pickups. Obviously, the defense still has holes, 384 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 7: and it would be remiss of me not to mention 385 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 7: that Washington was pretty damn lucky on fourth down last year, 386 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 7: one of the best fourth down seasons the league has 387 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 7: ever seen. They were incredible in the red zone. Going 388 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 7: to be tough to duplicate that. And as we often 389 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 7: talk about Colin, when you've seen a year of film 390 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 7: on Jamie Daniels and he killed almost everyone, a lot 391 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 7: of defensive coordinators will be adjusting to Daniels. He's not 392 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 7: going to be able to scoot and scramble for as 393 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 7: many first downs as he did last year. Remember this guy, 394 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 7: Colin was doing things on third down to set up 395 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 7: fourth down so he could run for it up fourth down. 396 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 7: And if you remember early in the season against Tampa, 397 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 7: I think it was a season opener. He was running 398 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 7: a lot and getting hit and I was like, there's 399 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 7: no way this is sustainable. And he started to pull 400 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 7: back on the running, started to win from the pocket 401 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 7: as long as mclaurin's in, And I think it's going 402 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 7: to be fine. You ad deebo, I think Washington's good. 403 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 7: I have them as the sixth seed in the NFC. 404 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, the five seed in the NF seed. 405 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, this one's a noe brainer. I think you have 406 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 6: them a little higher. 407 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 7: We've got them going back to the playoffs with their 408 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 7: veteran quarterback. The headline for the fifth seed will be 409 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 7: Stafford infection, rams quarterback spreads winning culture again. Yes, Matthew Stafford. 410 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 7: I'm of the belief he's going to be fine. This 411 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 7: back thing is just chatter. Obviously, if that goes awry, 412 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 7: that would be very, very bad news for the Rams. 413 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 7: But DeVante Adams, I mean I saw a list that 414 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 7: said he was the number one pickup of any team 415 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 7: in the offside. 416 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 5: I think that they've been really, really pleased. 417 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you got Puka Nakua, who is you know? 418 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 7: I see some people betting him for Offensive Player of 419 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 7: the Year, like he could put up massive numbers as 420 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 7: defenses have to adjust for DeVante. Kyron Williams back in 421 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 7: the fold, you love the defense. I feel like you're 422 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 7: the agent for Jared Verse, sometimes hyping him up on 423 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 7: every show. But this team is legit and as as 424 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 7: we've noted many times, they pushed Philly harder than anybody 425 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 7: in that playoff game. Stafford was driving I think in 426 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 7: the red zone. Yeah for the go ahead score. Tomorrow's 427 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 7: headlines today the number four seed. I got a feeling 428 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 7: where it's gone in the NFC. 429 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: Right. 430 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 7: So now we've got the division winners, and I know 431 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 7: these guys won the Super Bowl. I don't think it's 432 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 7: going to be as easy. I don't The headline for 433 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 7: the number four seed will be the Philadelphia Eagles got 434 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 7: her late than never Eagles pop their clutch after slow start. 435 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 7: I do think there will be a little struggles out 436 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 7: of the gate for Philly. Obviously the target on their 437 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 7: back after winning the Super Bowl. The schedule is brutal. 438 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 7: Let's just be upfront with that. They have one of 439 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 7: the toughest schedules in the NFC. I do still think 440 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 7: they win the Division colin largely because I don't trust 441 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 7: the Giants and I don't think much of the Cowboys. 442 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 6: I think Washington has as tough a schedule or tougher 443 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 6: than than Philly. 444 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 7: So I've got the Eagles right around ten wins. Would 445 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 7: not be surprised if it's nine. Listen, they're not going 446 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 7: to be the juggernaut that we saw in the playoffs. Sore, 447 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 7: just not okay. They lost several guys on defense. Jalen 448 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 7: Hurts another offensive coordinator, which is seemingly the case every 449 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 7: year for him. 450 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 6: So I think the Eagles are very good. 451 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 7: It's just tough for me to start talking repeat number 452 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 7: one seed and all that. I think they slide in 453 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 7: as the four seed in the Nfcit. 454 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, and NFC is getting better every year. 455 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, let's go number three seed in the 456 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: National Football. 457 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 7: Coll here's when we start to get a little bit spicy. 458 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 6: I know you're waiting for your bears. And where the 459 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 6: Vikings jam? 460 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 4: Now? 461 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 6: Where the Vikings? 462 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 7: The headline for the number three seed in the NFC 463 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 7: will be watched in your wallet. New gold card increases 464 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 7: quarterback spinning. Yes, I like the Matthew Golden pick up 465 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 7: for the Packers. I have them Packers winning the division now, Colin, 466 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 7: if you are tracking closely, you didn't see any walkcard 467 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 7: teams out of the NFC North. I think the Packers 468 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 7: now win the division. I've come around here in August offseason. 469 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 6: I love Minnesota starting to. 470 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: Back off just a little. 471 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 7: I think this Packer offense is going to be a machine. 472 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 7: Jordan Love, remember, was not healthy last year and the 473 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 7: opener I think it was the last play of the game, 474 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 7: throwing a hail Mary against Philly got twisted up. Was 475 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 7: never really the same last year. What's he gonna be 476 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 7: with a healthy Watson Golden in the mix. There's a 477 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 7: lot to like about the Packers offense. And let's be real, Lafleur, 478 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 7: I know we haven't talked about him. If you do 479 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 7: a top ten list of coaches, he's got to be 480 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 7: top five. 481 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: In the league. 482 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, Matt knows what he's doing. 483 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: Two more Tomorrow's headlines today very interesting, I think something 484 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: pretty interesting. 485 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 5: But the number two seed is coming. 486 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 7: So this is a team you never like to bet 487 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 7: on because you just lack of consistency has been there. 488 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 6: Bugaboo. 489 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 7: That changes the headline for the number two seed in 490 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 7: the NFC Will b Bijon, voyage, Swift family, Robinson's sale 491 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 7: pass mid tier Piers. 492 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm doing it. 493 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 7: I'm all in on the Atlanta Falcons wowering the number 494 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 7: two seed in the NFC. Now, a lot of it 495 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 7: has to do with their offseason. I know people didn't 496 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 7: like that draft trade. It could hurt them down the road. 497 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 7: But Colin, when you're one of the worst teams getting 498 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 7: to the quarterback, you add three edge rushers in the 499 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 7: offseason Leonard Floyd and then two in the draft, I 500 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 7: love it. That's what you got to do. Their back 501 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 7: end held down really well in the secondary. And I 502 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 7: just want to remind people that Kirk Cousins, for as 503 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 7: bad as he was last year, murdered the Tampa Bay 504 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 7: Buccaneers in both me just crushed them. 505 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 6: And oh, by. 506 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 7: The way, just by the bye Atlanta bench Cousins in 507 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 7: favor of Pennicks. So Cousins wasn't even good through a 508 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 7: league leading. This number is crazy. Four interceptions in the 509 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 7: final two minutes of games. But Kirk Cousins just killed Atlanta. 510 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 7: Now you upgrade with Pennix. I like what I saw 511 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 7: in the limited edition late in the season. I have 512 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 7: Atlanta doing well and Tampa just a little too much. 513 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 7: Change another oc. By the way, Tampa. You know who 514 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 7: faced the most backup quarterbacks last year? Tampa Bay went 515 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 7: four and one against backups. Okay, I think Atlanta wins 516 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 7: a division. Get on board with the Falcons column. 517 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 5: You pick Atlanta to win the division. 518 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: I just moved all my money to bitcoin, so we're 519 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: in the same boat. Finally, Atmorrows headlines today, I know 520 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: what it is. I just want to see the headline. 521 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 6: You know what it is. Come on, They're going to 522 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 6: be number one. 523 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 7: The schedule is the easiest seed in the NFL by 524 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 7: any metric you want. The headline for the number one 525 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 7: seed in the NFC will be no brock Bottom party 526 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 7: helps Niners reach their ceiling. Start to feel at Colin 527 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 7: It's forty nine Ers season coming for you. I know 528 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 7: right now the wide receiver room has everybody panicking. They're 529 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 7: picking up guys off the scrap heap because they're like, oh, 530 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 7: wait a minute, Brandan Ayuk's not ready yet. Jawan Jennings 531 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 7: is kind of beefing with us Ricky Piersoll like we 532 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 7: need more. So there is some concern about the wide 533 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 7: receiver room. You're concerned about the defense. I've just put 534 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 7: my faith in Brock Purdy. The return of Christian McCaffrey 535 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 7: kind of a big deal. Obviously, your boy George Kittle 536 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 7: shotgunner of Beers still any elite tight end. 537 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 6: I love this team. I'm thinking twelve or thirteen wins. 538 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, what pick is really interesting? And 539 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: I thought your nugget was great. Arizona. I think Gannon's 540 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: one of those guys that people in the league now 541 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: he's good, but we don't talk. I mean, the Rams 542 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: are high profile, the Niners are high profile. You know, 543 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: Seattle's got donald and now that coach from the Ravens McDonald. 544 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: So I let people talk about Seattle. Arizona is sneaking 545 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: in they you know, we forget sometimes Marvin Harrison came 546 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: into the league he and you know, if you believe 547 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: the rumors that Kyler Murray is not a grinder, is 548 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: it possible that Marvin Harrison and Kyler Murray needed a 549 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: full year together right to be great. I think that's 550 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: a really interesting pick because I like their personnel, I 551 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: really do. I think they've got five six really elite players, 552 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm sorry, but Marvin Harrison Junior is going 553 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: to be a really good player. But if you believe 554 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: the rumors that Kyler's not a film grinder, then you 555 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: could say, well, it was gonna It's gonna take a 556 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: little longer for that to work. I don't love your 557 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: Atlanta pick, but the divisions so weak it could certainly. 558 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: I do think Pennix is excellent, but the Arizona pick 559 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: took a little guts in a division with McVeigh and. 560 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 5: Shanahan and a coach in Seattle they like. I kind 561 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 5: of like that pick. 562 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 7: So I have three new teams Niners, which I guess 563 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 7: they're new because they were injured last year, Falcons and Cardinals, 564 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 7: so three of the seven new. I don't know, you 565 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 7: don't seem that surprised, Uh no, Lion. 566 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean, if you if I if I I still 567 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: have a couple of weeks to make my final pick Listen, 568 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: Albert Breer is the second person that's told me Cincinnati's 569 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: offense looks absolutely insane, and the truth is Cleveland's bad. 570 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: So they're gonna win two games there, and I think 571 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna beat Pittsburgh twice. So Cincinnati is one of 572 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: those teams that didn't make it in. You know, it's 573 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: hard for me to go against Burrow, who I thought 574 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: last year for many weeks was the best player in 575 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: the league. And I think the Niners schedule. I do 576 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: worry though. Sala helps Halfunga and Greenlaw. Halfunga is a 577 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: great player, so is Greenlaw. If Bosa gets hurt, that 578 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: defense is average j Max, and tomorrow we'll see it's 579 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: third