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Speaker 1: to talk basketball baseball. Nothing wrong with those sports, played

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Speaker 1: road to talk about. College baseball is a great sport,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about going to the Final Four this year myself. However,

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Speaker 1: Be discussed on this show because, like I got to

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Speaker 1: ascend to the head table in college football? That among

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Speaker 1: several other things on the show tonight, We're jam packed.

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Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors. Yeah, talking about some program stuff tonight.

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Speaker 1: You've got a healthy mixture of stuff on the show,

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Speaker 1: very very jam packed. I've got that one show per

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about something that's kind of NFL,

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Speaker 1: And then we have the age old question of should

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Speaker 1: be copying that. They're watching us in Jasper, Indiana, Orlando, Florida, Montreal, Quebec, Canada,

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Speaker 1: How about that sweet cow bell we got sent from Starkville,

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Speaker 2: That doesn't guarantee wins?

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Speaker 1: I know it doesn't. I'm going to save you guys

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Speaker 1: I know that I got talented teams going six and

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Speaker 1: But I also know I know the commitment level down there.

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Speaker 1: I know that they will not stop being very very

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Speaker 1: Try it and they'll have really good players in the building.

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Speaker 1: So does it guarantee anything? I think this is a

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Speaker 1: third time in a minute I've said this. No, but

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Speaker 1: it could happen. You remember Kevin's question, it could happen?

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Speaker 1: What about USCX? I said something about Brian Kelly. I'm

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Speaker 2: Then I answered.

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Speaker 1: some of them legal, some of them administrative, in the

437
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Speaker 1: way in college that aren't in the way in the NFL. Also,

438
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 1: the players in the NFL don't go to class, and

439
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Speaker 1: believe it or not, most of the players in college do.

440
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Speaker 1: So you have a lot of things you have to

441
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Speaker 1: work around where you can't build your idealistic calendar. You

442
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: have to build a realistic calendar. So I do get that,

443
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Speaker 1: but I still think we could do work on the

444
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Speaker 1: college football calendar. However, outside of that, I want to

445
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Speaker 1: draw back to the spirit of Jonah's question there. Yeah,

446
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl did a huge number. Yeah, the College

447
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 1: Football Playoff national title number dipped a little bit from

448
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Speaker 1: last year.

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Speaker 2: I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I would humbly suggest that you shouldn't care, Jonah. And

451
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Speaker 1: I'm going to offer a pretty radical viewpoint on this,

452
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Speaker 1: And by radical, I sarcastically am referring to the fact

453
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Speaker 1: that this is not.

454
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Speaker 2: A big deal.

455
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: So super Bowl does a huge number, super Bowl does

456
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Speaker 1: bonkers ratings, College Football Playoff national title numbers slightly down

457
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Speaker 1: several reasons for both, but I would tell you I

458
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Speaker 1: couldn't care less about how the NFL compares to college football.

459
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Speaker 1: I would suggest to you that college football is not

460
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Speaker 1: the NFL and shouldn't worry about trying to be the NFL.

461
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: I mean this on a multitude of front's TV ratings

462
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Speaker 1: are just one of them. That product, the NFL product

463
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: is engineered to be as palatable for as wide unviewing

464
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Speaker 1: audience as possible. There is no entity that does it

465
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Speaker 1: better and more surgically than the National Football League. I

466
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Speaker 1: watch NFL. I love college football. I sometimes watch the NFL.

467
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Speaker 1: That's my personal taste. There may be people watching the

468
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Speaker 1: show right now who dabble in college football, but they

469
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Speaker 1: love the NFL.

470
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Speaker 2: I really don't care.

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Speaker 1: It's obvious there are more people who are die hard

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Speaker 1: NFL viewers than college football viewers. But I don't look

473
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Speaker 1: at that and say, boy, what do we need to

474
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Speaker 1: do to catch up to the NFL.

475
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Speaker 2: Nothing. You don't have anything to catch up to. College

476
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Speaker 2: football is one of one.

477
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Speaker 1: Therefore, the comparative for college football shouldn't be how do

478
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Speaker 1: we relate to the NFL.

479
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Speaker 2: It should be how are we related to the best.

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Speaker 1: At college football can be and the best that college

481
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Speaker 1: football can be. Believe it or not, does not always

482
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Speaker 1: coincide with putting the product on air that temporarily gives

483
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Speaker 1: you the highest ratings A, because those are indicative of

484
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Speaker 1: decisions that were made well upstream, meaning the current television

485
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Speaker 1: viewership numbers that you're getting are oftentimes a byproduct of

486
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Speaker 1: decisions that were made five or ten years prior, not

487
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Speaker 1: decisions that were made five or ten weeks prior. And secondly,

488
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Speaker 1: it's not for everybody. You know, at some point you

489
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Speaker 1: reach this critical tipping point where, for the sake of

490
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Speaker 1: bigger ratings, you sacrifice a lot of what's great about

491
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Speaker 1: your game. I don't know if you've noticed, but look,

492
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: you're left and right. It happens all around you every

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Speaker 1: year in college football. Now, thankfully that sounds very negative.

494
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Speaker 1: Thankfully there is there's a ton ton of layers on

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Speaker 1: that onion, and so we haven't gotten anywhere close to

496
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Speaker 1: ruining the onion. But there's more nuance in college football.

497
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: It's tougher to understand college football. That's okay, and if

498
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Speaker 1: it means there's a dude over here and a girl

499
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: over here, who's gonna watch the NFL that.

500
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Speaker 2: Really don't care about college football. That's also okay.

501
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Speaker 1: If it means the super Bowl's rating is gonna dwarf

502
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Speaker 1: the National Title Games rating, that's okay. We play this

503
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Speaker 1: game in smaller towns. It's a little bit different a

504
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: chore to get a ton of people, to get nine

505
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Speaker 1: figures worth of people to care about your game when

506
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Speaker 1: your biggest brands are in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, instead of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,

507
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: that's okay. There's nothing wrong with it. There are more

508
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Speaker 1: leagues in this sport of ours. There are more teams.

509
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Speaker 1: Some of them are in Boise, Idaho. Like who in

510
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Speaker 1: the world. Half the folks who watch the Super Bowl

511
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Speaker 1: cannot find these college towns on a map. That's okay,

512
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Speaker 1: we can. We love it. If they want to watch, that's.

513
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Speaker 2: Fine, but not at the expense of bending.

514
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Speaker 1: Our sport to fit their viewership interests, shorter.

515
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Speaker 2: Careers in college football.

516
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Speaker 1: If you believe that this sport is at its best

517
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Speaker 1: when it is star driven, you don't have a ton

518
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Speaker 1: of stars in college football.

519
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Speaker 2: The stars are the head coaches.

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Speaker 1: I've always believed that, I will always believe that nil

521
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Speaker 1: will never change that. We just had Travis Hunter come through,

522
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Speaker 1: a huge name, one of the bigger names to come

523
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: through college football in a long time. He's already gone

524
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Speaker 1: three years gone, Tim Tebow four year career gone, Urban

525
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: Myers around forever, Nick Saban's around forever, Mack Brown around forever,

526
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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart around forever. Relative to the player, So the

527
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Speaker 1: head coaches are the stars. College football has struggled to

528
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Speaker 1: market that concept sometimes. But when we go on the

529
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Speaker 1: road in the spring, you notice who we sit down with.

530
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Speaker 1: We don't sit down with players. We sit down with coaches.

531
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Speaker 1: The players play the game. We talk about them plenty

532
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Speaker 1: in the fall. But if I want you to get

533
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Speaker 1: to know someone, I went down to two Lane this

534
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Speaker 1: past week. I sat down with John summer Off for

535
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Speaker 1: an hour. I would highly recommend you go listen to

536
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Speaker 1: that conversation. By the way, it's on the YouTube channel

537
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Speaker 1: right now, because I think the sport is at its

538
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: best when it is properly presenting profiles of its head coaches.

539
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Speaker 1: That's different in the NFL. Some people can't name half

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Speaker 1: the head coaches in the NFL. You name players. It's

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Speaker 1: okay that it's different. Game day environment matters way more

542
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Speaker 1: in college football than it does the NFL. To get

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Speaker 1: someone to fully understand that, guess what, you have to

544
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Speaker 1: have taken them to a game if you haven't taken

545
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Speaker 1: someone to dope Campbell Stadium in Tallahassee, Florida when the

546
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Speaker 1: renovation is complete and had them experience, not just what

547
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Speaker 1: it's like when Clemson's in there and it's a critical

548
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: third and seven midway through the third quarter. Yeah, that's insane,

549
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Speaker 1: but it's also great four and a half hours before kickoff.

550
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Speaker 1: Now you can talk to me about the tailgating scene

551
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL, but it's normally surrounded by concrete, and

552
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: all due respect, that's not tailgating. What they do in Athens,

553
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Speaker 1: Georgia is tailgating like what they do in Columbus, Ohio

554
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Speaker 1: and an arbor, Michigan.

555
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Speaker 2: That's tailgating. The scene in.

556
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Speaker 1: State College Pennsylvania, where it's just an ocean of tailgating

557
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: tents as far as the eye can see, mostly from

558
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: academy sports and outdoors, and it's winding, hilly terrain, a

559
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Speaker 1: lot of vegetation, a lot of greenery in all shapes,

560
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: forms and consumption sizes. I don't want to cast dispersions

561
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: on you folks at Penn State. But I mean, let's

562
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: be real now, the tailgating scene is incredible thing.

563
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Speaker 2: It's an incredible thing.

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Speaker 1: All these things are different in college as it relates

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Speaker 1: to the NFL, it's okay. And if our group of

566
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: things versus the NFL's group of things means that we're

567
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: gonna have, relatively speaking, a smaller viewership audience, that's okay.

568
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Speaker 1: I've got some of my favorite steakhouses in Nashville. They

569
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Speaker 1: don't try and be out back. That doesn't mean there's

570
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: anything wrong without back. That doesn't mean there's anything wrong

571
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: with these steakhouses. But they know what makes them good,

572
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: and they could absolutely make changes to appeal to a

573
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Speaker 1: wider swath of the demographic.

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Speaker 2: They don't.

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Speaker 1: They don't and could probably make more money doing it,

576
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: but they don't. Why don't they Because they understand what

577
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: their product is, They understand their clientele, and then they

578
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: continue to present from atmosphere to product on the table

579
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: to please their clientele. And if you can grow at

580
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: one or two percent in a fiscal year, that's wonderful.

581
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: But growing it temporarily at a ten to fifteen percent

582
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: clip will long term mean you probably shave off your

583
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Speaker 1: p one's your diehards, and there's going to be some

584
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: consultant group that tells you that's worth it. They're wrong.

585
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Long term, it's not worth it. It's never worth it,

586
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: and countless entities have figured that out in the annals

587
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: of American entertainment. Hopefully college football is not the next

588
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's going to be.

589
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: It's okay, but one angle that I would love.

590
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: To see college football learn a lesson on is how

591
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 1: to structure a calendar. I will admit that the NFL

592
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: understands that college football a little ways behind, But then again,

593
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: I haven't even been elected to College Football Commissioner yet. Roger

594
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: Goodell's got such a headstone. So you know, we'll see

595
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: one thing at a time, one change at a time.

596
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: Let's see where we want to go. Oh yes, yes,

597
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Speaker 1: I told you. We had a lot of program talk

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Speaker 1: on the show tonight. We do this segment once a

599
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Speaker 1: year because we can't do this more than once a

600
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Speaker 1: year because it it gets really hostile.

601
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Speaker 2: The comment section will get hostile.

602
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: This was one of our most contentious segments that we

603
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: did last year, and to be honest, We rolled into

604
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Speaker 1: the parking lot day of the show last year thinking

605
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: this was just a normal segment, and it was anything but.

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Speaker 1: So let me present it in a way that Colin

607
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: can cut very cleanly. In fact, let me take a

608
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Speaker 1: sip of water. It's very important to be hydrated for

609
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: this kind of segment. Thank you, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: So here's what we want to do. Once a year,

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Speaker 1: I rank the programs in the SEC. Here's what a

612
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Speaker 1: program is. Let me peel my post it off of

613
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Speaker 1: the piece of paper I wrote down how we define program.

614
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to say this as clearly and effectively as

615
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: I can. It will be ignored. Watch and see what

616
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: I tell you in the comments. A program, not to

617
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: be confused with team. A program is, as we define it,

618
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Speaker 1: a rolling four year blend of talent acquisition, mainly recruiting focused,

619
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Speaker 1: but also a little bit of portal mixed in there.

620
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Speaker 1: So how good are you acquiring talent over a four

621
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Speaker 1: year period? How good are your on field results? Are

622
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Speaker 1: you winning enough over a four year period? So if

623
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Speaker 1: you're winning three games per year, but you won twelve

624
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: last year, that means you had a good team. That

625
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: doesn't automatically mean your program's great. Yet your resource pool

626
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Speaker 1: are you broke or do you got some money? How

627
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Speaker 1: are your facilities? How deep is your staff pool? You

628
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: know those sorts of things and organizational stability. Are things

629
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Speaker 1: pretty consistent year to year? Is there a lot of turmoil?

630
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Speaker 1: Is there a lot of staff churn? Or are you

631
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Speaker 1: pretty much steady as you go? So with those bits

632
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: of criteria and mine, George is still the number one

633
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: program in the SEC. They just won the league. There's

634
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: nothing controversial about this. So George is the number one

635
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: program in the SEC.

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Speaker 2: Still.

637
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Speaker 1: This is the only team in college football with over

638
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: a ninety percent winning percentage last four years, which I

639
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: didn't know, but then when I look at it, it

640
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world, Like who's been

641
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: better than them? They got two SEC titles, two national

642
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: titles over that rolling four year period.

643
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Speaker 2: They're rolling recruiting.

644
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Speaker 1: Average over that four year period is second in the country.

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00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: They're averaging the number two class, and it's an extremely

646
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: solid organization.

647
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: Top to bottom. Like slam dunk.

648
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Speaker 1: This is still the number one program in the SEC.

649
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: Now the number two program in the SEC. I'm gonna

650
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: let you decide in your head before I tell you

651
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: who I have and time, Texas is now the number

652
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: two program in the SEC.

653
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: To me, I got Texas number two.

654
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: Now there's a five and seven season baked in there.

655
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: In the last four years, Texas has had a five

656
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: and seven seasons, so it should tell you a lot

657
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: what I think about the program overall. When with that

658
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: baked in, I still have them number two because it's

659
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: the best talent acquisition.

660
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: Program in the league right now, better than Georgia.

661
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 1: I think they're more effective at getting talent than Georgia

662
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: right now. They've got the deepest resource pool, deeper than Georgia.

663
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: Georgia's been better on the field, and Georgia's not taking

664
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: much of a back seat in those other categories. But

665
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: Texas that vaults them this high. It vaults them over

666
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: Alabama because there are a lot of other areas where

667
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: Alabama's got the edge and the critical categories that we

668
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: talked about, but they've had back to back playoff trips

669
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: at Texas that, like I said, they've got an unmatched

670
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: resource pool, maximum commitment, maximum investment. I think extremely highly

671
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: of Steve Sarkisian. I think extremely highly of their roster.

672
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: It's about to get tested again. The depth is about

673
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: to get tested again. But I love where they're at

674
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: right now. I think, right now, on this moment, it's

675
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: the number two program in the SEC. Bama's the number

676
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: three program in the SEC. Now here's the thing about Bama.

677
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: If Sabin were still there, even if they would have

678
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: had the same record last year, we'd have Bama number

679
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: two because you would have had one outlier of a

680
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: season baked into otherwise a bunch of dominance. The Sabin

681
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: factor is almost like this asterisk that's thrown into the mix.

682
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: And if it's comparable Texas or Alabama, I gave Texas

683
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: the NOD. Alabama has a better four year rolling profile.

684
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: They've got the number two win percentage in the SEC

685
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: over that four year period. Their organizational strength is really

686
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: good and probably just improved a little bit more. It's

687
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: just that when you lost the greatest of all time,

688
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: even if you added someone, I believe in in Kaylen

689
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: de Bor. This is not a prediction. This is judging

690
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: you in the here and now. So it's one thing

691
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: to believe in Kaylen de Bor. And if we did

692
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: a predictive segment, maybe I'd bump them up number two,

693
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: number one, whatever, but there's what you believe will happen

694
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: versus judging the here and now, and in their first

695
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: go round with him, they lost a couple of games

696
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: in embarrassing fashion. So this is not a team ranking,

697
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: it's program ranking. But that has to be baked in.

698
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: And because it's a new head coach replacing a guy

699
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: who was just their fifteen years, it matters a little

700
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: bit more what you just did in the previous season.

701
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: So it's not like they tumbled their number three and

702
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: could easily vault to number two or number one with

703
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: a great year this upcoming year, depending on what Georgia

704
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: and Texas do.

705
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: Of course, I have got Tennessee at number four.

706
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: I have a feeling this is where we're really going

707
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: to start to ask some disagreement. The on field results

708
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: are there, so they've won seven games, eleven games, nine games,

709
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: ten games. That's their rolling four year win loss record,

710
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: well win win total. Recruitings where they fall off a

711
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: little bit. Recruitings where there's a little bit of a dip.

712
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: Comparing Tennessee to the other top three programs here, averaging

713
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: a fifteenth ranked class in the country over the past

714
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: four years rolling that is ninth overall in the SEC,

715
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: it's not terrible, but it's not elite. It is second

716
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: or third tier. They've been okay in the portal. They've

717
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: got really good.

718
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: Commitment there, the nil commitments there.

719
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: Organizationally, I think they're good, very very solid outfit there

720
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: in Knoxville. But the most important thing there is they've

721
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: just got stability. If you gave me nothing more than

722
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: stability at Tennessee, they would have been a lot better

723
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: off in recent years even if they were average at

724
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: head coach. Just be stable and be average. So I'm

725
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: going to put Tennessee number four. There may be some

726
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: people I think four, five, and six. They are gonna

727
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: be some people that argue that these should be interchangeable.

728
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: So I think Tennessee, LSU and Old Miss people are

729
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: going to argue should be anywhere from four to six.

730
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: I could make those arguments that this is where I landed.

731
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: I put LSU at number five, right behind Tennessee and

732
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: right ahead of Old Miss. Where I'll show you where

733
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: they are in a second. LSU's got twenty nine wins

734
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: over the last three years. Their recruiting profile, they're averaging

735
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: an eight point seventy five rated class that's good for

736
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: fourth in the SEC. They are very good, but improving

737
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: in their ability to go fill their holes through the portal.

738
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of that got kicked

739
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: into overdrive just recently, just recently, I think that there

740
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: was a long, hard look in the mirror down there,

741
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: and there was sort of a come to Jesus moment

742
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: for a lot of people who were capable of helping,

743
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: and they helped, and knowing you're not gonna have to

744
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: do it forever. We're about to be revenue sharing, So

745
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 1: if you're gonna write that.

746
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: Check, now's the time to write the check.

747
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: And they did, and LSU may have bought themselves two

748
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: more wins this upcoming year by the moves they just

749
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: made in the portal. But even talking about their program overall,

750
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: the defensive overhaul is baked in here.

751
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: That's what knocks LSU down a little bit.

752
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: Like LSU got themselves into such a precarious situation that

753
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: they had a Heisman troll and didn't even sniff a

754
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: playoff for a national championship game because they were terrible defensively.

755
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: Now that's to the fault of Brian Kelly. To his credit,

756
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: he cleaned house. To their credit, let me put it

757
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: that way. To LSU's credit organizationally, they cleaned house. They

758
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: got the right guys in there, and so they'll be good.

759
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: They'll be fine moving forward. Got to have the players,

760
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: which they're rapidly on pace to do. But it's LSU.

761
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it, Think about the stigma around them.

762
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: They feel like they're down. They've won twenty nine games

763
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: the last three years. If that's down, that's down by

764
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: LSU standards alone. That's not down by any stretch, and

765
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: just the overall landscape of college football. So I got

766
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: LSU five, okay, six through ten. Let me show you

767
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: how I shook these album I got a old miss

768
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 1: at number six. You could easily have them at five.

769
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: You could have them as high as four. They got

770
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: the third best winning percentage in the over the past

771
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: four years. They are a portal heavy talent acquisition team,

772
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: so they are not a high level recruiting team. They're

773
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: kind of middle of the pack there. They're a high

774
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: level portal team. The way I personally look at it

775
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: is sustainability.

776
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: Using that model, even though it's new and no one really.

777
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: Knows, I don't put as much faith in as just oh,

778
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: good old fashioned top ten recruiting classes. So maybe I'm

779
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: wrong on that, but this is where I define their

780
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: program as being right now. Seven is Texas A and M.

781
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: Everything for A and m's in front of them. What's

782
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: in your rearview mirror is average at best. That's why

783
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: you would be middle of the pack here among the

784
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: high level programs. But Texas A and M. I don't

785
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: even it was mainly Jimbo Fisher that's baked into this.

786
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: You've only had one year of Mike Elko several years

787
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: to come.

788
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: Seven's not a.

789
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: Bad spot for them to be. Missouri at number eight

790
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: is all about on field winning. They've recruited sneakily pretty well.

791
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: They're a number twenty caliber recruiter. They've been very cerebral

792
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 1: and effective in the way they go about the portal.

793
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: But they've won twenty one games the last two years too.

794
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: So Eli Drinkwitz is doing a really, really good job

795
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: at Missouri, which I don't have to tell people who

796
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: watch the SEC, but nationally that kind of gets lost

797
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: on people. South Carolina has made their way into the

798
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: top ten, three winning records in a row. Now that

799
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: doesn't sound impressive. But remember we're not talking about top

800
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: three here. They're number nine, and you've also sort of

801
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: in a more backloaded fashion, you've had them play their

802
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: best ball most recently, so the recency bias factor would

803
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,479
Speaker 1: not have anyone argue with this. I think now they're

804
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: about like Missouri in that they recruit around twentieth or

805
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: so nationally and Florida big recruiting surge here, I mean recruiting.

806
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: They are around number eight nationally on average the past

807
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: four years. Their records haven't reflected that, and that's why

808
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: they're at number ten.

809
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: Organizationally, I think.

810
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: They've got a good setup down there, so I respect that.

811
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: I respect a talent acquisition. Their wins and losses are

812
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: not there that knocks them down.

813
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: A Pegar two.

814
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: Resource pool I think has improved the past two or

815
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: three years really really well. So that's on the up

816
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: and up. That's what has the number ten Florida, I

817
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: don't think.

818
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would probably straw Pole most of America.

819
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: I think they may put someone else in the top

820
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: ten be size Florida, but Florida's up there for me.

821
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: So it was Georgia, Texas, Bama, Tennessee, lsu Ole, miss A,

822
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: and m Missouri, South Carolina, Florida. That's our top ten

823
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: right now. Quick trips in most of those states. Absolutely,

824
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: in most of those states. You can fuel up like

825
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: we did the entire year on the whole New Saturday Tour.

826
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 2: A quick trip.

827
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: You can get yourself some cold brew coffee on tap

828
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: at quick trip. You can get any of a number

829
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: of rolling edible delicacies at quick trip. You can make

830
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: dreams come true at quick trip. So if you're on

831
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: the road.

832
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on the road tomorrow. You know where

833
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: I'm going.

834
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: Have I told you, Jesse and Colin, I gotta go

835
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: to I gotta go to Hot Springs, Arkansas, spending a

836
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: fun filled Valentine's weekend in Central Arkansas. And I don't

837
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: say that mockingly. I say that with a smile on

838
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: my face, looking forward to seeing some old friends over there,

839
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 1: and probably stop at several quick trip along the way.

840
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: Quick trip, quick trip, I quick try. We're gonna check

841
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: the plural of quick trip. It can't just be quick trips.

842
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: That's far too simple. Let's move along. Okay, we've done

843
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: We've done some conference championship odds because those are already out.

844
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: It's a very weird time to live in the free

845
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: American sporting society because it used to be that you

846
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: had to wait until the summer to get all the

847
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: Vegas numbers and now you just have them readily at

848
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: your disposal to do with what you want. So, like

849
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: the ACC odds are out right now, I don't think

850
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: you'd be surprised if I told you Clemson in Miami

851
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: over at FanDuel are number one number two to win

852
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: the conference this upcoming year, with Clemson having a little

853
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: bit better odds than Miami. But there's no regular season matchup,

854
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, because God for BIB, the best teams in

855
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: conferences play each other. We just can't have that. So

856
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: yet again, Clemson will not play Miami this year. But

857
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: neither of these teams has an easy schedule. I'm looking

858
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: at them right here. Clemson also, I would say it's

859
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: its own separate conversation. This is an important year for Clemson.

860
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: I view this as an all in year for Clemson.

861
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: I have no confidence that going forward twenty twenty six

862
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: and beyond that they'll be able to compete for championships.

863
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: I think this year's team is good enough maybe on

864
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: the fringes, but good enough to do that. They cannot

865
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: afford to have what I call depth testers, so in

866
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: other words, injuries, it's a really unnecessarily complicated way of

867
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: seeing injuries. We got to avoid those depth testers. Yeah,

868
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: so don't let your players get hurt. That's my advice

869
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: to Clemson. So Clemson to Miami one too. That's not

870
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: a shock. Clemson opens against LSU. By the way, it's

871
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: not a conference game, so it doesn't affect this. But

872
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: we'll find a lot out. Then again, Clemson won the

873
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: conference last year and they got smoked by Georgia in

874
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: Week one, so maybe we won't find anything out. Louisville.

875
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: I need to talk to you about Louisville. They're number

876
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: four in the odds. They face number one, number two,

877
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 1: and number three, which is Clemson, Miami and SMU.

878
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: I love Louisville.

879
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 1: They get Miller Moss at quarterback, transferring in there from USC.

880
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: He's picking a great spot to go. This is a

881
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: professional decision by Miller Moss. They've got the most underrated

882
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: head coach in America at Louisville in Jeff Brohm. Perennially,

883
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: it's one of the most underrated programs in America, And

884
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: think to yourself, do I know that Carson Beck's going

885
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: to come through from Miami? Do I know that Clemson

886
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: even if they're what they were last year, that's not

887
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: invincible Clemson. That's not vintage Clemson. Like, do we really

888
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: not think Louisville may not have a shot here? I

889
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: think they do. So that's a nice little value play.

890
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: SMUs at third that kind of skipped over them. They

891
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: get Kevin Jennings back at quarterback. They tasted this thing

892
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: last year, immunity. So now they face three of the

893
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: top three. If you exclude them, they got the third

894
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: best odds to win it. They face Clemson, they face Miami,

895
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: they face Louisville. So, as you can see, even though

896
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: I knocked the league for not having, you know, Clemson

897
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: in Miami play against each other, everyone else plays everyone else.

898
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: In the top group. Georgia Tech's at number five. Georgia Tech.

899
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: There's a gap by the way between the top four.

900
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: So you got the top four and then there's a

901
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 1: little bit of a gap and then there's Georgia Tech.

902
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: And unlike those top four, Georgia Tech doesn't play Miami.

903
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: They don't play SMU, they don't play Louisville. They get

904
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: Clemson at home early. It's a rapidly ascending program. They

905
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: get Haines king Back. I have already put money on

906
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,959
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. So it's at plus thirteen hundred right now.

907
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: Whatever it does from here on outs, whatever it does.

908
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: I bought some LSU and the SEC. I bought some

909
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech and the ACC. I'll tell you another one

910
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: that it wouldn't be stupid to put some money on.

911
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: But it's gonna sound stupid, is Georgia or not. Georgia

912
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: Tech already said them North Carolina Bill Belichick year one.

913
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: We could be looking at a situation where, however long

914
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 1: he's there, you end up looking back on his career

915
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: and saying, you know, the best shot Belichick had was

916
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: year one in Chapel Hill.

917
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: How can that be?

918
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you how they got the easiest schedule

919
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: in the ACC this year, and may have one of

920
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: the easiest schedules in major college football.

921
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: They pay Clemson in conference at home. That is about it.

922
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: Colin is showing you North Carolina schedule on the screen

923
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: right now. I cannot convey to you and strong enough.

924
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: How much of a bakery this thing is as loaded

925
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: up with cupcakes as you could possibly imagine. Now, Caneal

926
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: won't speak on this because it's the wrong league that

927
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: we're talking about. These guys right here got immunity from Canel.

928
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: You let an SEC team load up a Richmond and

929
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: Charlotte on the schedule and see what our buddy down

930
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: there says. But I digress, holding different teams to different standards.

931
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: I guess now Florida State six, Florida State, I don't know.

932
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: I have no clue what to expect. I don't think

933
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: anyone has any clue what to expect. But I just

934
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: did want to note Florida State's there. They are in

935
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: the top seven. They've got the sixth best odds to

936
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: win the conference. Do with that what you will. They're

937
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: watching us in McAllen, Texas. They're watching us in Knoxville, Tennessee,

938
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: and beautiful Santa Fe, New Mexico.

939
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: Appreciate you wherever you were watching us.

940
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: I just saw someone in the live chat ask if

941
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: that was me last night.

942
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: I know what they're talking about.

943
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: I'll give me a few minutes and I'll tell you

944
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: what they're talking about if you don't know, but.

945
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: Yes, it was me. I think you know what. It

946
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: depends on what you're asking about.

947
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: I think I know what you're asking about, so I

948
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: think the answer is yes.

949
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: But if I'm wrong.

950
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: About what you're asking about, the whole show could go

951
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: sideways and get deleted. So I gotta be careful. I

952
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: wanted to speak to you for a second tonight about something,

953
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: honestly that most of the time would not find its

954
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: way onto this show. But I want to talk to

955
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: you about Jalen Hurts. So the Jalen Hurts story, College

956
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: or pro. Do you think you could tell that story?

957
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: I think most of you could tell most of the story.

958
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: I think most Bama fans, or Oklahoma fans or Philadelphia

959
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: Eagle fans think, oh, I could tell.

960
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: The whole story. Could you tell the whole story? I

961
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 2: think you could tell most of it.

962
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: But there are some really important chapters that as I've

963
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: listened to a lot of people flesh out this story

964
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: of Jalen Hurts over the last few days after he's

965
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, there's a lot of stuff getting

966
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: left out, really important context, and I hope you don't

967
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: overlook this. So I'm telling you this lower third here

968
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: what Colin's putting on the screen. I have come to

969
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: realize Jalen Hurts is my favorite football player of all time.

970
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: He's active, he's still playing right now. I do not

971
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: really care. And short of, you know, a massive scandal

972
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: that erupts in the back half of his career, Jalen

973
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: Hurts will go down as my favorite player of all time.

974
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give you a few reasons why. And

975
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: as we talk about this, I want you to think

976
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: to yourself, like, what is the Hurts story?

977
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: So here's what I remember. I remember that.

978
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: He wasn't supposed to start for Alabama in twenty sixteen.

979
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: It was Blake Barnett. Blake Barnett was a five star

980
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: guy from Southern California. And you go through spring practice

981
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: and it's Barnett's job to lose.

982
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: And then you go through fall.

983
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: Camp and it's Barnett with the ones, Jalen's running with

984
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: the twos, and that's pretty much the way it's gonna

985
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: play out this year. And then I think they opened

986
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: against Southern CA how and Blake Barnett is total deer

987
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: in headlights and Jalen Hurts comes in.

988
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: I think he fumbled his first.

989
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: Snap, by the way, so it's not like he was

990
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: dominant from bell one, but he definitively proved he was

991
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: the better quarterback that afternoon, and he took the job

992
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: and never looked back rest of the season. And then

993
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: we move on to the next season and he's a

994
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: second year starter. He's a returning starter. There's this kid

995
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: from Hawaii. No one can pronounce his last name, tag

996
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: Us something, and it ends up being to a tongue

997
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: of Ailoa. And so then what you start hearing is

998
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: more and more throughout the twenty seventeen season. Bama's good,

999
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: but it feels like there's a little bit being left

1000
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: on the table because of inefficiency at the quarterback position.

1001
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: And there's this backup.

1002
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: They've got this just slinging the coconut in practice, and

1003
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: everyone thinks that we probably are playing our second best quarterback.

1004
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: Will come halftime of the National Championship game, you put

1005
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: that theory to the test, proves to be accurate to

1006
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: what comes in come from behind second twenty sixth DeVante

1007
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: Smith touchdown. Okay, everyone remembers that part of the story.

1008
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: Everyone remembers National Championship win, but Jalen got benched, but

1009
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: he's still there celebrating on the field, just model citizen,

1010
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: great teammate.

1011
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: Do you remember what happened next?

1012
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: Most people would tell you what happened next is either

1013
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 1: he transferred to Oklahoma or the ones who remember the story

1014
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: a little better you would say, no, no, he eventually

1015
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: transferred to Oklahoma. But remember the twenty eighteen SEC Title game,

1016
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: and you're also right about that.

1017
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: Do you remember what happened before that? Several months before that?

1018
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: Do you remember what happened after the twenty seventeen national

1019
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: title game? Because what happened is everyone celebrated who was

1020
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: an Alabama fan? And then you started to look towards

1021
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: spring practice, so who is the starter at Alabama?

1022
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: Now? Jayalen will transfer?

1023
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: And he didn't, And everyone looked around and said, well,

1024
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: that's weird.

1025
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: This was pre transfer portal era, but.

1026
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: Still in such a clean cut, obvious case where the

1027
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: hierarchy was determined. It was expected even back then, back then,

1028
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: being like seven years ago, it was expected that a

1029
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: guy like that was gonna transfer. The coaching staff at

1030
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: Alabama expected them to transfer. He didn't. He rides it

1031
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: out through spring. That's not transfer, and then they enter

1032
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: fall camp. Jalen Hurts has not said a word in

1033
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: the media all spring. They kept him away from the

1034
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: media all spring, and they have this thing called fan Day.

1035
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: They have an open practice at BAMA or they did

1036
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: every fall during camp, and they let all the players

1037
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: talk to the media. It's like the only time of

1038
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: year that they would do that. So it's a Saturday afternoon,

1039
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: it's early August, and for the first time the media

1040
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: talks to Jalen Hurts.

1041
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 2: It's on YouTube. You can go find it.

1042
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: I think it's so critical to telling the story of

1043
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts effectively because he stands there with this gaggle

1044
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: of reporters around him and talks freely for like thirty minutes,

1045
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: and he's so calm. He never raises his voice, but

1046
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: he basically says, yeah, uh, they've kept me away from

1047
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: the media all spring. Everyone just assumed I transfer. One

1048
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: of his quotes was a lot of people have made

1049
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: decisions for me. No one's bothered to ask me what

1050
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: I thought about it. Coaching staff didn't bother to come

1051
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: to me and ask me what I thought about it.

1052
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: No one's really cared how I feel about this now,

1053
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: it sounds like when I give you these paraphrased quotes

1054
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: that he was complaining, he wasn't. He wasn't whining at all,

1055
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: like he was manning up about it.

1056
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: But he was being really raw, and it was almost

1057
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 2: like you were watching an NFL team.

1058
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: Bama, in many ways operated like that because you don't

1059
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: normally hear college football players talk like that, and you

1060
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: normally don't hear the ones who would talk like that

1061
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: given the opportunity to talk like that, but he did.

1062
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: And so he goes on to just definitively tell you

1063
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about the situation. I want to be

1064
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: the starter here. I'm not happy that I'm not, but

1065
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: I respect the decision. But I've sat here and listened

1066
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: all spring to people talk about me transferring as a formality.

1067
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving. Coaches never came to me. Nick Saban

1068
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: at one point almost indicated that he was surprised that

1069
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: I was still here. Well, I'm here and I'm gonna

1070
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: be here.

1071
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

1072
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: So then the season plays out, Bama's offense is incredible. Two,

1073
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: has got injury concerns, but largely the offense is incredible. Two,

1074
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: it goes down halftime of the SEC Championship game, Jalen

1075
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: Hurts comes off the bench. It's my favorite Bama game

1076
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: of the Saban era, and he leads Alabama from behind

1077
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: to beat the team that he got benched against in

1078
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: the same building it had happened in a year prior.

1079
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: I've never seen Nick saban more emotional than that. I've

1080
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Speaker 1: never felt more emotion like being on the sideline watching

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Speaker 1: one of these games, because you really understood, like you

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Speaker 1: were watching the documentary, happen in real life. Just I

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Speaker 1: can't write that stuff unbelievable. And then afterwards there's the

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Speaker 1: postgame scene on the field, saving kind of choked up

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Speaker 1: and cried on the air. I saw him what I

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Speaker 1: saw what he looked like when he went up the tunnel.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot more emotional than that. Once he

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Speaker 1: thought he was out of side of the cameras. But

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Speaker 1: then he transfers to Oklahoma, and you remember large chunks

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Speaker 1: of the story after that. But there's one more thing

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Speaker 1: during that season, during that time, from him getting benched

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Speaker 1: to him sticking it out at Alabama to him eventually

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Speaker 1: win in the SEC Championship at Alabama. You know what

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Speaker 1: the talk around the program was the talk around the

1095
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Speaker 1: program for many was you need a red shirt once

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Speaker 1: you've played your four games. If you play any more

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Speaker 1: than that, you burn your red shirt year, and then

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Speaker 1: you'd only have one year left of eligibility.

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Speaker 2: And why were people talking like that?

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Speaker 1: Because most people did not expect Jalen Hurts to be

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Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I guarantee most of you didn't.

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Speaker 1: I looked at Jalen Hurts and when I heard that

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Speaker 1: red shirt talk, it was quiet, but there was an

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Speaker 1: under current of maybe he's gonna red shirt. I thought

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Speaker 1: to myself, you know, for the team's sake, I hope

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Speaker 1: he doesn't, But for his own sake, I think I

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Speaker 1: would do that if I were him, Because Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: was a guy who I thought to be the quintessential

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Speaker 1: good college football player.

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Speaker 2: We've all seen those guys. We see him every year.

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Speaker 1: Guys who are really good in college probably not gonna

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Speaker 1: amount to much at the next level. There's probably some

1114
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Speaker 1: kind of limitation physically on him. And I thought that

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Speaker 1: was Jalen Hurts. So I thought, if he read shirts,

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00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: that's good because he preserves as much college eligibility.

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Speaker 2: As he can. And he's gonna need it.

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Speaker 1: He burned the red shirt, and then he won the

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00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: SEC championship, and then he goes to Oklahoma, and then

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Speaker 1: he goes to Philadelphia. And it hasn't been a joy

1121
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: ride every step of the way there either. But we

1122
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Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl and winning Super Bowl MVP in

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Speaker 1: the process. I don't know that you'll ever see a

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Speaker 1: better story than that in football. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: you'll ever see a better model citizen be in that

1127
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Speaker 1: role and then watch the role get played and the

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Speaker 1: story play out the way it has, and it's still

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Speaker 1: being written, by the way, but even if it ended today,

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Speaker 1: it's one of the great stories in the history of

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Speaker 1: the American sports landscape. And I think Jalen Hurts now

1132
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Speaker 1: is my favorite football player of all time. I'm so

1133
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: glad that I got to witness that, because most of

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Speaker 1: the great stories I have to listen to the older

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Speaker 1: guys tell me because I wasn't around for him, But

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Speaker 1: this one I was around for, so I.

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Speaker 2: Get to tell the youth. One day.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was this guy from Channel View, Texas

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Speaker 1: and his name was Jalen Hurts and lou Holtz had

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Speaker 1: a tough time pronouncing it, but man, everyone including lou Holtz,

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Speaker 1: myself and everyone else included, we love watching him unbelievable story.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. I am happy to see

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Speaker 2: Before I get to the last.

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Speaker 1: You know, football related segment of the show, we're we're

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Speaker 1: almost an hour in, so I mean, the hard cores

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Speaker 1: are here, and anyone who is just gonna peruse the show,

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Speaker 1: they've checked out already.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, We'll deal with them.

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Speaker 1: Later someone asked a question that I will answer, and

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Speaker 1: that question was, was that you last night?

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Speaker 2: I assume you mean was that me?

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Speaker 1: And if you're listening on podcast, this is a freeze

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Speaker 1: frame from Monday night Raw.

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00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: Last night. I was there. The entire staff was there,

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Speaker 2: Savannah State was there. There.

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Speaker 1: She is not in front of me, all due respect,

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Speaker 1: but next to me. And you know, seeing Punk crowding

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Speaker 1: the shot in the foreground. No fault of his though

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Speaker 1: he couldn't have known.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were there.

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Speaker 1: I have not been to a live wrestling event since

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Speaker 1: two thousand and six, I want to say, and been

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Speaker 1: tuned out of the product for a long time.

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Speaker 2: But I've sampled it.

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Speaker 1: I've stayed in touch and Jesse basically fills me in

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Speaker 1: on what's happening, and so does Belchie and some of

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Speaker 1: the other guys in the staff. Oh oh, there's Bradley.

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Speaker 1: I didn't notice we had Bradley in the picture, so

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Speaker 1: great image there. Yeah, I went last night. I have

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of feedback that's really not going

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Speaker 1: to be presented on the show. If WWE wants to

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Speaker 1: hit me up, I can give you feedback from a

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Speaker 1: lapsed fan. This is like when someone says they're a

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Speaker 1: lapsed Catholic and then they go to Mass and they

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Speaker 1: got all the opinions about, well, what was the service

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Speaker 1: like today? Well, I can tell tell you what I

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Speaker 1: thought about the event last night. The important thing to

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Speaker 1: note is as college football personalities go, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: the most high profile to attend a pro wrestling event

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Speaker 1: this year. I'll tell you who wasn't there. Brandon Walker

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Speaker 1: was not there. So it was a pleasure to be that.

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Speaker 1: No one does live events like that. Company's unbelievable, to

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Speaker 1: the point where I would say, if it's in your town,

1217
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Speaker 1: don't even care if you don't know, if you know anything.

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Speaker 2: About the product, just to see the spectacle of.

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Speaker 1: Like pro wrestling gun live at at that level, just

1220
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Speaker 1: go watch half a show.

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Speaker 2: Really unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Okay, last segment for tonight, Barry from El Paso, Texas

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Speaker 1: is arch Manning the clear breakout quarterback for this year.

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Speaker 1: If it's not him, hoops, does it love the show?

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01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: Brilliant grammatical structure here by Barry arch Manning, of course qualifies.

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Speaker 1: I saw the heisman. It's insane how high he is.

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Speaker 1: But yes, he'll be his own conversation This year. The

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Speaker 1: nuance is in his supporting cast. Okay, I believe in

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Speaker 1: Arch Manning. I also believe he lost his top three

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Speaker 1: wide receivers and multiple offensive linemen and a tight end.

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Speaker 1: And it's Texas though, so you hope they can backfill effectively.

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Speaker 2: They probably will.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Arch, he'll be his own conversation, So yes,

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Speaker 1: he'll be one of these. I think Dante Moore has

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Speaker 1: a spot in this conversation. That's the starting quarterback for

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Speaker 1: Oregon this year. Remember he went to UCLA, played as

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Speaker 1: a freshman, then he transferred, then he sat last year.

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Speaker 1: That will be so valuable for him. They'll probably be

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Speaker 1: a time down the road when Dante Moore hears his

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Speaker 1: name called in the NFL draft and when they're interviewing him,

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Speaker 1: he's thinking Dan Landing, He's thinking Oregon, and he's also

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Speaker 1: thanking the good Lord that he was put in a

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Speaker 1: position to where he actually had to sit for a

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Speaker 1: year in the middle of his career. You know, because

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Speaker 1: you can do You can do this thing called learning

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Speaker 1: and develop even if you aren't playing every snap of

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Speaker 1: every game. Will Stein as the offensive coordinator up there

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Speaker 1: is a good dude to learn under. Anyone who has

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Speaker 1: watched Oregon practice, has spoken pretty glowingly about Dante Moore.

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Speaker 1: Oregon overall is just a reload program, so I got

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Speaker 1: all the confidence in the world. He'll be surrounded by

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Speaker 1: the right guys. Demon Williams probably a lesser known commodity.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll break out this year. He's a little

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Speaker 1: bit smaller of a body, about five eleven one ninety

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Speaker 1: or so. He's a former four star. He played a

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Speaker 1: good amount for Washington last year. I mean, I'm looking

1257
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Speaker 1: at his sheet right here, like he was twenty six

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Speaker 1: of thirty two in the Bowl game for three hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy four yards, four touchdowns, no picks, legit dual threat,

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Speaker 1: really good athlete. I think he'll pop on the scene

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Speaker 1: nationally this year year two. In Jet Fish's program. By

1262
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Speaker 1: the way, Austin Simmons at Ole Miss they are very

1263
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Speaker 1: excited about him there. He's a much bigger kid, about

1264
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Speaker 1: six four two fifteen. He was tossed into the Georgia

1265
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Speaker 1: game led us scoring. That's basically what most people know

1266
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Speaker 1: about him, unless you're an old Mis fan, in which

1267
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: case you probably know everything about him. Lane Kiffen won't

1268
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Speaker 1: fail like Lane Kiffin with a talent like that, unless

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Speaker 1: there's injury, he won't fail. So Austin Simmons almost certainly

1270
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Speaker 1: a breakout candidate this year. Julian Sayan is a breakout candidate.

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Speaker 1: Everyone focused on Caleb Downs transferring from Alabama to Ohio State.

1272
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: Julian Saying transferred from Alabama to Ohio State. It's a

1273
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Speaker 1: big deal too. It just got deferred a year. You

1274
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Speaker 1: didn't watch him this past year because you watched Will Howard.

1275
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Speaker 1: My guess is you'll be watching him as the starter

1276
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: in Columbus this year.

1277
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Speaker 2: Former five star guy.

1278
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Speaker 1: I first saw him at Elite eleven and most of

1279
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Speaker 1: you will see him for the first time this spring

1280
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Speaker 1: or this fall. There's a lot of retooling that's going

1281
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: to go on there, but in terms of raw talent,

1282
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Speaker 1: I don't think they'll drop off in the aggregate. They'll

1283
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: probably be more talented at quarterback. It's not all there

1284
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: is to it, I know, but they'll probably be more

1285
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: talented than they were this past year with Will Howard.

1286
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Speaker 2: When you watch say and throw, it's really unique.

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01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: It's got like one of the fastest releases you'll ever see.

1288
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: There is zip on the ball and it's not like Physically,

1289
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: he's the most imposing presence that you'll ever see. But

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01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: when you watch him play, his game will stand out

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Speaker 1: pretty quickly. And Sawyer Robinson Robertson, my bad, my bad

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Speaker 1: I think he'll pop a little bit more on the

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Speaker 1: radar this year. Through for over three hundred yards or

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Speaker 1: three thousand yards already, so really both are true. He

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Speaker 1: won the final six games. Baylor kind of sneakily along

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight touchdowns, eight picks last year. Defense will not

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Speaker 2: I think they will.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Sawyer Robertson's going to be another

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Speaker 2: So I know it's only February.

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Speaker 1: I got six of them right there that I feel

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