1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Broke. You know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEO, entrepreneurs and 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do. It's 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: what he likes to ship. Sean mcdonnald Moneymaking Conversations. Here 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: we go recomen Money Making Conversation. I am your host, 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Rashean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different definitions 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: of success. For some it's the size of a paycheck. 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Mine is helping people wake up and inspiring them to 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: accomplish their goals and live their very best life. These 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: are my passions and that's what we're gonna do for you. 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: That's why I created Money Making Conversations. I want you 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: to stop tripping over small challenges and prepare to rise 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: above the bigger obstacles that life will present to you. 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: That's what money main Conversation is all about. My next guest, 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: he's here straight out of Houston, Texas. That's where I 15 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: was born and raised. My next guest is Kenny Lord. 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: Kenny Lord is CEO, president and vision There are Tava Lifestyle, 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: a direct sales wellness company. Tava Lifestyle is a global 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: network marketing company offering health and wellness products, including nutritional supplements, 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: energy enhancement, and more. Ken you started Tavat Lifestyle with 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: the mission to change lives by helping individuals ear in 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: an additional income all while living a healthy and active lifestyle. 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: Please work with the money making conversation. And HBCU made 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: Tennessee State University. I gotta kick that off, man, because 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: I was doing your bio and HBCUs a being so 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: much love man, and UH doing this pandemic time. It's 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: really long overdue, and because now people are starting to 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: understand the value of HBCUs even though they're they're they're 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: the look they started out of racism. We all know 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: that's why they're in the southeast part of the country. 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: Tell us about the t s U experience, which is 31 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: uh Tennessee State University because they got another TIARSU down 32 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: and used to call Texas Southern University. Tell about t 33 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: s U up there in Tennessee. Let's look, let's talk 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: about the real tissue. But let me tell you another man, 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: um And I'm glad you're asked me that question because 36 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: it is and I was talking to somebody about this 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: other day, man, Like the HPC was Earns Man, it 38 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: was an incredible experience. It was the best time of 39 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: my life. And I say that because of course life 40 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: is good now, but it was a time in my life, man, 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: with the only responsibility I had was was to get 42 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: out of school. You know, and you know and and look. Man, 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: it was a time where instructors really cared about you. Man, 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: if they saw you getting off track, you weren't just 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: a number where they would expel your suspending. They pull 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: you to the sign like you with their son or daughters. Man. 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: And then the people that you meet, Man, all the 48 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: men listen. I swear, Man, I have friends all over 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: the world that I swear when we were in school, 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: you would have sworn that they weren't gonna be worth 51 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: a dying. These people are, I mean, they are helping 52 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: shape to monitise city states in the world. I mean. Man, 53 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: So man, I love it. Man, when I go back 54 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: to home coming, there's nothing like it. Man. So, Man, 55 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: I would tell anybody that it is a great experience, 56 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: and I would never discount it when you're thinking about 57 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: where used to go, because you're building friends that love 58 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: livel look in the least lifetime, we know you're to Detroit. 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: So you know, I know, you know how to dress. 60 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: You know, if you're to Detroit, that's kind of like 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: part of the game plan. You know, I've been up 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Detroit many tiers, Steve Harvey out there wearing our suits, 63 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: when our gators, when our hats. All part of the 64 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: structure been that you grew up in a community that 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: is so urban, which is Detroit. Talk about when I 66 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: look at the I want to say that the way 67 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: you see social unrest today, and you know, we've been 68 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: dealing with that all our life, Kenny, both of you 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: and I were over sixty and so we've had our 70 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: different layers of racism, but we never let our colors 71 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: stop our ambition, even though we know we have more 72 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: value than they told us. We have value. Talk about 73 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: the challenges of going through life growing up in the 74 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: community or city like Detroit, and the impact of what 75 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: you see and happened today with racial unrest. Young people's 76 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: finally realizing their is racism. You know, it's it's it's 77 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: deep man. Let's question. I will tell you I think 78 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: my biggest experience because as you know, you know, my 79 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: father was the first African American to play in the NBA. 80 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: All of fame coach the Detroit Pistons. And so I'm 81 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: not gonna say that we were insulated from racism because 82 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: of course, you know, athletes they don't experience the same 83 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: level of racism that ordinary people. Right, So I'm not 84 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: gonna say that because I lived in Detroit and because 85 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: my father was a head coach on athlete that I 86 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: hadn't experienced. Detroit is a different culture, you know, the 87 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: city of Detroit itself. I don't want to get become 88 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: get political, but you did hear the President referred to Detroit, 89 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, and a kind a not so savory way, okay, right, 90 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: because he knew what what the population was, you know, 91 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: and uh so it's the kind of town man. It 92 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: was insulated because the blacks in that dude in that 93 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: city of Detroit. Man with some very sharp people. Man 94 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: like you take somebody like cold and young Man the clouds, 95 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: look man, Coleman. Coleman took that city too, a whole 96 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: nuther level. I mean, like Coben Young was a very 97 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: strong black man. Um. For me, all I can do 98 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: is speak from my perspective. You know. They used to 99 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: say that it takes a villains to raise a child, right, Well, 100 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: I was raised, man, I had to benefit of being 101 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: raised because of my father and my mother, because my 102 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: mother has a PhD, you know, and they worked hard, 103 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: man to put us in there in a in a 104 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: right environment, right. You know. I don't make excuses for 105 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: how I was raised. Okay, Now, the thing is that 106 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: I wasn't raised in the business, man. I was raised 107 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: in the kingdom. Because I was I had to benefit 108 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 1: of being surrounded found by black men that were great 109 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: husband's fathers. They were great in their communities, man, And 110 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: they were politicians, they were attorneys, physicians, um, entertainers, you know, 111 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: and they cared about giving back to the young, to 112 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: the young blacks. They really cared about it. Man. It 113 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: was I mean, it was embedded in them. Man. Like 114 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: they would give us lessons and they would it's still 115 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: upon us. And they had the right to even implement 116 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: corporal punishment, man, the slappers of spankers and shake us 117 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: out if we were disrespectful. I see that on exists anymore. 118 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: You know why because they're not a lot of colons 119 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: in our communities. Like man, they care about the young men. 120 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: You know, these young men are being raised by women 121 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: who do who are doing the best they can, and 122 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: they're doing a great job. But we know that I 123 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: don't want to go. I don't know if I'm opening 124 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: knup the door man. But you know it's hard core 125 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: women to raise a man. You know. Uh, not to 126 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: say that it can't be done, because I've seen it 127 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: done right, But we know that a man's influence upon 128 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: a young boy it's very important, man, you know, they 129 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: it's very important. They respond to us, you know, like 130 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: my my youngest son, oh, my my two sons. Man, 131 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: they respond to me a little differently than they respond 132 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: to of their money because I'm old school, right, you know, 133 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: I don't believe in it. You could call family services 134 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: if you want, boy, but I take what little with me. 135 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot easer to living in a foster care 136 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: home because you thought it was living. So it's just 137 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: it was. They called it the spirit of Detroit, and 138 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: the spirit was a prideful spirit of people man who 139 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: really cared about each other. That I think they came 140 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: from a generation. My parents generation was a generation of 141 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: people that were oppressed, and a lot on them were 142 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: very poor and they didn't have the means, and their 143 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: parents made great sacrifices to make sure that they could 144 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: begin the new generation of the family. And I think 145 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: that they took great pride in that. And because they did, 146 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: they made sure that that we were exposed to the 147 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: right things and that they took an interest in us, 148 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: and they didn't allow us to get off track without interceding. Man. 149 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: So it was a great time, a great error. It 150 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: really is, because I can relate that. And born in 151 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: fit Ward, Houston, Texas. You know, in the city. You know, 152 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: my father was a truck driver, mom graduating from hindh 153 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: School and so six sisters, two brothers too, very shotgun 154 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: house is what I was born in. But that then 155 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: stopping from seeing my goals. But because my father was 156 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: in the house, he allowed me to stay focused and 157 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: allowed me to move forward. And and I'm not saying 158 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: he was the best father in the world, but his 159 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: physical male presence of consistency allowed me to be the 160 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: man who I am today and allowed to shape some 161 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: things that I wanted to do. That's what I wanted 162 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: to be as a man based on how he presented himself, 163 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: whether it was good or bad, it gave me a 164 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: give me a model, Kenny, that's all you're saying. Giving 165 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: you a male model to shape your male views as 166 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: you come into manhood and as you come into manhood. 167 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: Today we look at this pandemic and we look at marketing. 168 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: Marketing is such key and that's that's your gift. When 169 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: I when I literally resume you're just a gifted marketer, 170 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: where did that come from? You know? I think that 171 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: I get a lot on my qualities from my father. 172 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: But because my father was famous, you know, and you 173 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: know a lot of people would think earlier. But man, 174 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: my father taught me how to be a man, but 175 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: my mother taught me how to be a person. And 176 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: both of them had great oratorical skills that had great 177 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: uh in a personal skills, you know. And so I'm 178 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: not really a great marketer. I'm a great relationship building 179 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: And everything is about building relationships. Because if you're a 180 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: great salesperson, where anybody can go get a sale and 181 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: that's the one time thing. But you know, when you 182 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: have the ability to build relationships, you have somebody that 183 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: will buy from you every month versus one time and 184 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: they're gone. You know, it's a difference between a great 185 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: salesperson and a great relationship building because man, listen, everybody, 186 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: I know that has positioned them well themselves well financially 187 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: in life. Man, they understand the power of building relationship. 188 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: They have great relationships. We've been you said, man, look, 189 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: you know when this is all sitting done, you know not, Man, 190 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna get together as absolutely you understand the power 191 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: of relationship because and it is the key thing about 192 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: it. It It wasn't even my financial get together. It was 193 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: just a relationship. Because I always tell people my decisions 194 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: I make in life aren't always tied to money. And 195 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: because it's tied to a relationship, an opportunity. And I 196 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: think you understand what I'm talking about that opportunity. What 197 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: builds out of that opportunity, if what allows you to 198 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: be a winner. I'll put you in a winning situation. 199 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: If you go in looking how much more I can 200 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: get out of this relationship, they may deter you or 201 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: may cost you a long term opportunity because you're looking 202 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: for a short term game. And that's really what we're 203 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: talking about here, Kenny, when you're talking about Okay, Rashaan, look, 204 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: I want a relationship. And I said, and I said 205 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: that very off, Cup, because I know you live in Houston. 206 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: You know, I like to eat. I'm sure your bible 207 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: que man just like me. You know, you've been used 208 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: to less long enough to know there's the best text 209 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: mixed restaurants in the country is to use the text. 210 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: So you know, when we come down and she was 211 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: just COVID because you know, we ain't going nowhere in 212 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: public and COVID, my wife ain't going nowhere. I don't know. 213 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 1: I don't know how your family handled and Kenny, but 214 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: my wife has not allowed me to take out in 215 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: public since March. I'm gonna listen, I'm I'm gonna lockdown, man, Listen. 216 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't like to sneak out right right right right 217 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: to speak out man, because of course you go crazy. 218 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: But you know, as as predicted, uh, it's become worse. 219 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean they have been predicting, uh, even from March 220 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: on in the in the colder months, man's beginning our 221 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: top it is gonna get worse, and it has become worse. 222 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: It has. It has come to tuition that it has 223 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: become worse and and becoming worsening every day. So you 224 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: know my position is that you have to be careful man. 225 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: That's why I'm you know, like in my business man, 226 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: of course to do the COVID. Man, I lost my 227 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: mother and march do the COVID. And I don't wish 228 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: that on anybody. It's not just the death of of 229 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: a parent, because as life and death man, my father 230 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: used always say, life and death is like a door knock. 231 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: Everybody gets turned right. You know when your parents started 232 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: reaching eighty five, you know it was six, You kind 233 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: of know, man, you know that their time is approaching. 234 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: But with anybody that has a parent and then there 235 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: they're in another city and their parents is diagnosed with COVID, 236 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: you can't even go see him, you can't be with them, 237 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: you know. Uh, it was difficult, man. I had to 238 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: really uh solicit some some political powers to be in Detroit, 239 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: to even get a nurse to put on an asthmat 240 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: suit going there and take a phone so I could 241 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: say some things to my mother that I wanted to say, 242 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: because everybody has some things they would love to whisper 243 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: to a loved one's here when that they know that 244 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: loved one is about the transition. And by the grace 245 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: of God, man that it happened, you know, I mean, 246 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: because it would have disturbed me. Man, I don't know 247 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: where I would be mentally if I wasn't able to 248 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: do that. So you know, I think God that that 249 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: he made that possible that I could say some things 250 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: to it. But uh, they say that in death there's 251 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: a birth right. Right. It's funny, man, because right as 252 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: my mother passed, Uh, I mean, my business just took off, 253 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, And that's what I say. I say that 254 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: she became much bigger in spirit that she was ever 255 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: for me on earth, you know. And because of the 256 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: nature of my business. 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Sign up for free at auto dot 291 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: ai or download the app for free auto dot ai. 292 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: That's O T T E R. Dot Ai. So let's 293 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: talk about the nature of your business. You know, the 294 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: COVID hit online. You know a lot of black people 295 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: were not able to um handle the opportunities because they 296 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: weren't technically savvy. Their brand wasn't able to benefit from 297 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: the lockdown, from the lock from the lifestyle needs. Tell 298 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: everybody basically what TAPA is all about, well, tabs Direct said, 299 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: but mostly welly known as a network marketing company, right 300 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: and we uh, may we survived that first year where 301 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: a lot of network marketing companies don't survive ninety days, man, 302 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: And we survived our first year and we thrived. Man. 303 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: We had an incredible year. Man. A lot of people 304 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: were blessed and we uh. We we market health and 305 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: wellness products. Products. But we allow people to operate a 306 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: business within a business, right, so you can operate a 307 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: home based business like we have right now in just 308 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: a little over a year, over forty thousand reps all 309 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: across the country, man, and in Canada. Right we're expanding. 310 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: We have plans for international expansion, but you know, it's 311 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: the time putting everything for that. But uh, right now, 312 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, a little forty five thousand and these people 313 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: are operating from their home, but essentially from their phone 314 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: because we have a phone app. Man. We it just 315 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: a way you know, for people, uh to take a 316 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: little control over their life, man, because there are a 317 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: lot of people that are not as fortunate as you, uh, 318 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: A lot of people that don't have careers. So there 319 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: are a lot of people, man that have job that 320 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: that keep us afloat. Man. Like imagine the countless uh bartenders, 321 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: man and waitresses that that take care of us man 322 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: to service us man who are out of work and 323 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: make a lot of make money doing that, take care 324 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: of their families doing it. Man, they have no jobs, 325 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: and imagine a lot I mean, so there's so many people. 326 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: So the thing I love about what I do is 327 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: that it gives people an opportunity to be the change 328 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: that they've been seeking. And by that, I mean that 329 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: they could really start their own home based business. Man 330 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: for a thousand dollars or less and have an opportunity 331 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: to earn like I mean, Man, I mean I have 332 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: people in my company that I mean, in in the 333 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: first year, earned over half a million. Man, I have 334 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: people that have earned two hunt a quarter of uh 335 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: two hundred fifty thousand, people that are earned fifty you know, 336 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: so if you have people that earned five hundred thousand, 337 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: I have countless people that have earned an extra thousand 338 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: dollars a month. Man. That was much more powerful than 339 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: the one twols of threes that earned five on the 340 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: thousand in one year. The imagine what an extra twelve 341 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollars would do for for your your household budget. Man, 342 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: for extra extra money, Man, I didn't work. I don't 343 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: want money. Man. We talked about the kid, We talked 344 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: about the lifestyle, We talked about the opportunity. How does 345 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: it all work when you're talking about networking? You know, 346 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: everybody has a network of people that they share. Imagine 347 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: you go to the store and you buy a bottle 348 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: of wine and that wine is good. What do you do? 349 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: You're like, man, I tried to just bottle of wine. 350 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: And the difference is you don't get paid when you 351 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: share the story, right, Like somebody asked me, you know 352 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: we have a product. We have a coffee called Caprice, right, 353 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: and it's it's a CBD right. Oh, I'm gonna send 354 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: you something. Let you try the CDD infused. It's delicious. Man. 355 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: Somebody asked me in an interview, what's the difference between 356 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: my coffee and other coffees in the store. I said, 357 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: what a difference is My coffee pays? Okay, all right, 358 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: those coffees you have to pay to get those. My coffee. 359 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: My coffee pays because you know, you don't have to 360 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: just share it with somebody to say, Man, it was 361 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: good I tasted and not make a dime. When you 362 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: share my coffee, you make money right right, right, and 363 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: you're sharing something that's healthy, you know. So, I mean, 364 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: so that's the difference. Man. Uh. Everybody has a network 365 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: of people that they're close to that they share things. 366 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: Hey did you see that movie? Man? That movie was 367 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: a good movie. Fan. What you do you just make? 368 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 1: You just made somebody some money. This car, you know, 369 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: I mean, Wemburger, fried chicken, this sandwich, all that stuff, 370 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: this sign, restaurants, all these things we do. We're making 371 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: other people money. We do it unconsciously. So our position is, 372 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: how about we work a little conscious, you know how 373 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: probably we'll be a little more conscious, uh about what 374 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: we do. And let's start sharing some things that we're 375 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: trying and let's let's turn it into a business and 376 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: share with our friends and family and other people that 377 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: that they know and that they know and let's turn 378 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: let's let's monetize. And that's what we've been doing. Man, 379 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: very well, now you did when I look at your background, Yeah, 380 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: you had to run with b ET and then the 381 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: w n B A Washington Mystics, and so I know 382 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: because your father, you know, Hall NBA Hall of Fame, 383 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: first Black to be in the NBA, so you you know, 384 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: you know HBCU. You have a trying to say you 385 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: have a very um layered life, you know, and and 386 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: how has that helped? You were telling us about your 387 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: experience with b ET network and then also the Washington 388 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: Mystics of the w n B A. Well, let me 389 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: say this, the my experience with with b two was 390 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: an incredible experience because of the first time ever Man, 391 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: we started off with a local network and then next 392 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: thing OBT picked it up. Man and we were just 393 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: global with the show. Uh, of course it was our 394 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: first experience. But you know the show was not so good. 395 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: We had a good seasons though, but you know, the 396 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: show could have been a lot different. Um. It was 397 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: supposed to shine a positive light on network market and 398 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: what we do, but uh, it was. It turned into something. 399 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: And I don't blame it on b T. I I 400 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: say that, and I even the producers. It was the 401 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: first project that they ever worked on, man. But it 402 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: was absolute pleasure working with B team. Man. We went 403 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: down to the BT Awards and and he took care 404 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: of us, man, and treat us. We walked the red 405 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: They didn't treat us like you know, we were nothing. Man. 406 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: They gave us the red carpet experience. So look, man, 407 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: you will never hear Kenny Lloyd same thing. You took 408 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: care of us when it was when I had my moment, 409 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: my five minutes of fame. I enjoyed it, every minute 410 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: of it, man, And they made it special. And now 411 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: now to watching the mystics of w n b A, 412 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: that's my brother. You have to do the interview with 413 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: him because that was him working with cool they put 414 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: down there on your bio here and I apologize. When 415 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: I looked everything up, I didn't see it. I didn't 416 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: see what we're rolling like that. So now let's go 417 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 1: back to the Houston, Texas area, and let's let's talk 418 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: about that whole experience of being in Houston. You said 419 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: you've been in fifteen years, right, yes, Okay, Now what 420 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: advantages being in the Texas market, because let's talk about 421 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: Texas because I my corporations in Texas they don't tax you. 422 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: We're talking money making conversations. Now, there are some advantages 423 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: to not taxing into there, not paying taxes as a 424 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: corporation and not have your your business tax Is that 425 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: being is that Is that an asset for your brand? Oh? 426 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: It's it's it's an absolutely asset to the brand man, 427 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: you know, and when you are look, I'm still a 428 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: small business, okay, you know, I'm still a small business. 429 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we we do a lot of 430 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of numbers a month, man, 431 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: but we're still a small business. And any break a 432 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: small business and you have to capitalize on it. But 433 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: what's important in the biggest mistake that most small businesses 434 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: makers that they think small when they're at all Uh, 435 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: you have to look at your numbers. And when you 436 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: see your numbers, man, when you start going from two thousand, 437 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean like you know, like ten thousand and sales 438 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: a month twenty and when you see yourself going to 439 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: six figures and heading towards seven, you better have some 440 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: very competent you know people on your team and think 441 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: that that our c P. A S man like that 442 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: could guide you. But I always tell people, whatever it 443 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: is you you, you you achieved to be, start putting 444 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: a team together before you get there, because you have 445 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: if you stay ready, you don't have to get ready. Man. 446 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: You know, when it happens, sometimes it's you one contract. Man, 447 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: You're one move, one once, one swing of God's hands 448 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: from going from you know, twenty thousand a month to 449 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: a million and sales a month. And if you're not prepared, man, 450 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: you're gonna seek Because it's not just about sales alone. 451 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't it unsustained man. It is being you know, 452 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: if your infrastructure. So it's important that you have the 453 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: right people in place as you see your business start 454 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: to grow, man, And don't don't be cheap, because you 455 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: get what you paid for. All right, now, let's let's 456 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: talk about that, and let's talk about relationship from the 457 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: stand part of personal life. My wife has always paying 458 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: a major role in my life. You know, I always 459 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: tell people, you know, she was very talented optopetrics and 460 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: allowed me to go to New York and build my brand, 461 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: go to l A and build my brand. I'm in Atlanta. 462 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: She's having me build my brand. Now I had to 463 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: bring up because you know, your wife plays a prominent 464 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: role in your bio. Okay, I'll be I'll be remissing. 465 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: And I don't want to fall on her dark side 466 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: because I said, I want to get with you. I 467 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: don't want to have an anything with you, and don't 468 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: bring her up. Okay, Kenny, talk about that the power 469 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: corporate relationship that you have with your wife. Kenny, Well, 470 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: let me say this, man. My wife is my business 471 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: partner and she and I both have a role, right. 472 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: And the thing I said about my wife is, I 473 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't be on this MP with you if it was 474 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: not for my wife, because I've had many more failures 475 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: than I've had success, you know, and you know each 476 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: failure is a success if you don't duplicate because you 477 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: learned through it, right. But I've had many more failures, 478 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: and she never killed my spirit, like you know who, 479 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. In this last journey, we she 480 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: was working and she would be going to work and 481 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: she'd be working on our reality. And our reality was 482 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: that we were broken. We needed some money, so she 483 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: was going and she was earning some money. But she 484 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: allowed me to work on our dream, right, which was, 485 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, work the business full time right now. A 486 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: little hard though, because you know she would be like, 487 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: did you make a sale other day? I'm like, I 488 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: can't work out of that kind of pressure. Okay, this 489 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: let me do my thing, right, but that she allowed 490 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: me to do that, And of course, you know it 491 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: was ridicute because you know, people knew me and Shanta's 492 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: broke man and this and that. But man, I didn't 493 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: let in that sway me because I know, broke man. 494 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: It's just temporary, right, right, right. But when our when 495 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: our dream became my reality, then her reality changed because 496 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: she was able to do what she wants, when she wants, 497 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: and how she wants, okay, and but she still chooses 498 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: not to sit on her butt all day live in 499 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: the lap of luxury. My wife were active in our business, 500 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, because she loves the people. She's a big 501 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: part of the reason why we're here because she interacts 502 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: for people like maybe I don't know. I've been told 503 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: I might come off like a shark sometime, man, but 504 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: I just don't play because being broken and climbing out 505 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: of that hole that broke old man, it's rough, and 506 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: so you don't have time to nurture anybody and breastfeed people. 507 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: And man, look it's like it's man, this spears to 508 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: famine out here, you know, when you're trying to live 509 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: your dream, man, when you're trying to come from broke 510 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: too and to giving your family the life you want 511 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: to give. The man, you gotta be a gorilla. Well, 512 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: let me start talking about that, Kenny, because you know, 513 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: because I'm probably I'm mad at myself because we talked 514 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: about it off air, and I should have started this 515 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: conversation with it, because you're not both over sixty. And 516 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: we all know that, especially Black people, they tended a 517 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: lot of ages when they think they can. This is 518 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: when I for the I'm for the I'm done fifty, 519 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm trying to retire, and we all know 520 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: there's no money waiting on your sixty five years of age. 521 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: You and I both know that, so what to continued? 522 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: And I and I remember I did an interview and 523 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: it with viral when I was talking about I don't 524 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: have an age limit. Agees a number that's necessary. And 525 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: and I hate people who who I don't see how 526 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,239 Speaker 1: old I am. I I don't know how you can 527 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: be successful unless you get older. That's what's called experience. 528 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: And if you do the right to have the right 529 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: type of experience, you get paid for that value. Let's 530 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: talk about you, because you said Rachean at fifty, I 531 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: cranked it back up. Let's talk about that not allowing 532 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: age to stop you kidny. No, I mean I adn't 533 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: age because I think my my calling, you know, like 534 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 1: we all to put on this earth man with a purpose, 535 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: and man some of us die crying because we've never 536 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: discovered our purpose, because we don't keep on movingfore and 537 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: for me, I anybody who's known me all my life 538 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: will tell you that I always said I wanted to 539 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: be a millionaire, and I didn't know how, what or what, 540 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: but I would My goal was to be a millionaire. 541 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: And I said it took me fifty years to make 542 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: an happy in a lot of pain. Right. Well, a 543 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: lot of people my age, they're downsizing. You know, they're 544 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: looking for you know, uh, one of those chairs. I 545 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: those one of those chairs. Do you put the lever 546 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: and they go, I don't even know what it is 547 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: because I don't even here. They're going to standing the 548 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: stairs and let check going stand man. They just said 549 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: in it, they just tell the people. And this is 550 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: might I say this to y'all, say it from my heart. 551 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm working on my jet right right. I got two 552 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: of things, man, on my on my my fishing board, man, 553 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: that I got to complete, and that's my jet and 554 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: my yott. I mean, I'm gonna have my jet. I 555 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna have because I have my expectation date. 556 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm closed my yat. I know what I'm gonna have that, 557 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: and I will have that before sixty five. Right. And 558 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: the point is I'm sixty one years old. Man. Look, 559 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't subscribe to that. When you get a certain age, 560 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: you start wearing those sweaters, man, and sitting in up 561 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: in the recol recliner, that's what you call a recliner chair, 562 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: watching TV with the man. Oh listen, that's like you too. 563 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: I don't do your thing, but I want everybody to 564 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: know that my life I was reborn at excuse me, 565 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: I was reborn years old and I'm telling you I'm 566 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: sixty one and I still have the energy and vibrants 567 00:29:54,560 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: of a forty yeard. Why because my life is burning, right, 568 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, my my life is still burning, man, because 569 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: I still have work. You know. It's really interesting that 570 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: I tell everybody I didn't really despite having success in 571 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: my life, Kenny, it wasn't until I was forty two 572 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: that I really accepted who I was and who I 573 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: could be. And so age plays a role in all. 574 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: That's that's why I admired people like Barack Obama, who 575 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: I call him visionaries. They knew early on he wanted 576 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: to be president, you know, and so like you said, 577 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: it was shane. I remember in high school, Kenny. You know, 578 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: we didn't have enough money to burily buy our basketball 579 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: shoes that we played in every day. But we used 580 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: to cut out pictures of foreign cars, Porsches, corvettes, and 581 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: I just always remember that, and guess what I drive 582 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: today those type of cars. For some reason, in my mind, 583 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: even though I didn't know it, Kenny, I was, I 584 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: was instilling a value in me, an aspiration in me 585 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: that this is what I wanted in my life. And 586 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: even with my friend and settled for you know cars, 587 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: I thought, I just waited up. I remember the very 588 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: first car was a fore Cars Fiat X one nine 589 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: to to see the and because I just knew that 590 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: that's the game I wanted to play. And when you 591 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: say yourself with Sean at fifty, I remodeled and just 592 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: started my career where I wanted to go. Now you're 593 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: talking about you got goals all the way to sixty five, 594 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: and I know your goals beyond sixty five. But what 595 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: I always want to tell people when you think like you, Kenny, 596 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: it impacts you physically as well. You walk different, you 597 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 1: talk different, you dressed different. Am I right? Absolutely? One man? 598 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean everything about me. I just worked through things. Man, 599 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, because I know it was waiting with Kenny. 600 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: I want to let you go. Is the top of 601 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: lifestyle or off? I want to get your phone number 602 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: from you because I'm like, I got a home down 603 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas, I lived by headquarters down in Atlanta. 604 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: Then you know when you get that uh, that plane, 605 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: that jet. You know what I'm saying. You know, you 606 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: know I'm not gonna ask you what what size you 607 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: getting there? What's your what's your what's your vision? The want? Okay, 608 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: because I've been on some chets now, I've been on 609 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: some jetski uh, I get it. You come here and 610 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: you say Vegas, Yes, and you know I got the 611 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: relationships baby in Vegas. I got their relationship, Andy Kiddy. Man, please, brother, 612 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: stay blessed and again, Man, we're friends. Now, we're relationship. Brother. 613 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: And I don't tell everybody about the Taper lifestyle and 614 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: networking you've done, man, and everything that you're doing, man, 615 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: because it's about uplifting people. Man. And look, man, you've 616 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: had a lot of success. Man. 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