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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Oh, that's gonna go on?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks right.

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Speaker 1: Lewis here in studio with Bucky Brooks. DJ is on

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Speaker 1: his way back from Mexico City as he was doing

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Speaker 1: the color on the Charges radio broadcast last night. In

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Speaker 1: the game that they had to have but did not

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Speaker 1: get it, came into the game four and six. They

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Speaker 1: leave four and seven, foll in a dramatic one at

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Speaker 1: the end with a chance to go in and tie

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Speaker 1: at Bucky and then Philip Rivers throws his seventh interception

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Speaker 1: in the last two weeks to seal it for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Out how out such a tough uh, such a tough,

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Speaker 1: tough loss for the l A Chargers, because this is

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Speaker 1: a team that they have everything on paper that you want.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're terrific when it comes to their defensive personnel.

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Speaker 1: You look at the offensive personnel that the skill positions.

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Speaker 1: They have two big time receivers. They have a running

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Speaker 1: back in Melvin Gordon, another one in Austin Ekeler. They

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback that's a veteran quarterback that as well

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Speaker 1: established is being considered an elite quarterback for years. The

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Speaker 1: only question, I guess maybe their offensive line. But this

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Speaker 1: is a team that should not be a four and

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Speaker 1: seven team. You talk about having high hopes for a team,

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Speaker 1: a team that was viewed as a Super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 1: For them to follow the four and seven the way

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Speaker 1: in which they failed the four and seven, I think

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Speaker 1: it's troubling. I think it's disturbing just the way that

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Speaker 1: they played, particularly at the quarterback position. Philip Rivers a veteran.

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Speaker 1: You don't expect him to turn it over, uh to

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Speaker 1: the degree that he has. But I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: another thing, And we talked about this on path to

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Speaker 1: they or when were they going to get the next quarterback? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it hasn't happened yet. It hasn't, and so you know,

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Speaker 1: you kind of feel bad because for all of the

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Speaker 1: incoming that Eli Manning took, you probably could have issued

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Speaker 1: it in Philip Rivers direction as well the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, because look, three years ago he had a

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Speaker 1: hasn't been um great when it comes to turnover, the

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Speaker 1: turnover ratio, get the ball together, team, like all of

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Speaker 1: those things, Like it's kind of been I guess it's

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Speaker 1: now the Charges could be stuck um in a situation

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Speaker 1: where they have to go and get their franchise quarterback

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Speaker 1: in It's like going to the grocery store. You never

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Speaker 1: want to go to the grocery store when you're hungry

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Speaker 1: because you make bad decisions. So now, how are the

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Speaker 1: Chargers able to make a decision about the franchise quarterback

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Speaker 1: when their current quarterback is playing poorly and they know

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Speaker 1: a great that's a great analogy because I can remember

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Speaker 1: it brought me immediately back to sophomore year in college,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to cook anything pizza, So you can't

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Speaker 1: because teams will talk themselves into a well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: the extra year, uh the bonus year on the rookie contract.

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Speaker 1: The Charges have to make a decision that is, well,

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Speaker 1: how do we view our offense going forward? Is Anthony

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Speaker 1: can give him the benefit of not only ben able

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Speaker 1: you have Jake From right, you have Jacobieson and who

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Speaker 1: And we always talked about in draft rooms there there

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Speaker 1: But this year, more than any other year, it could

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Speaker 1: It looks like late seventies and eighties ball. I watched

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Speaker 1: him play the other night for what is that the

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Speaker 1: Pig Pig against Minnesota. They're playing for the big big Pig.

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Speaker 1: There's so many trophies that you'rell exchanging the big ten.

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Speaker 1: and you're talking about multiple tight ends playing two tight ends,

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Speaker 1: big deal. Evidently, like Iowa always owns Floyd Floyd, they're

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Speaker 1: players that are injured, I think sometimes we forget how

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Speaker 1: with the Seattle Seahawks. We've seen it with Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: We'll get his take on Russell Wilson will join us

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Speaker 1: up later as well. How about them potentially taken a

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Speaker 1: to a tongue of the law just because you got

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson there can you continue to afford him? You

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Speaker 1: know eventually, I don't know, there's there's Uh, those those

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Speaker 1: are interesting, you know conversations also then the more that

436
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Speaker 1: you talk, the more that you're You're like anybody could.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Tours will get out the first

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Speaker 1: round just because the talent and depending on the feelings

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Speaker 1: that people had prior to the injury, Um, that could

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Speaker 1: impact it. Like everyone understands that he's the first round talent.

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Speaker 1: Now it's just trying to figure out, Okay, like where

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Speaker 1: do we evaluate that based on his injury history? So

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen something like this with a top flight quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and I mean I can't. I struggled to think of one.

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Speaker 1: I mean the best Sam Bradford is the only example

446
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Speaker 1: I have where Sam Bradford didn't play his final season

447
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Speaker 1: because of the shoulder injury. Did he have shoulder injury

448
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Speaker 1: or collar bone injury? Uh? Something prevented him from playing

449
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Speaker 1: his last year. He still was able to go number

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Speaker 1: one overall. Maybe he played a game or two like

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Speaker 1: the final season at Oklahoma. But he is the last

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Speaker 1: one that I can remember of record as a quarterback

453
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Speaker 1: that had everybody scattered um playing career due to injuries,

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Speaker 1: and then he was still able to kind of navigate

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Speaker 1: through that situation to be the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 1: He went ahead of Jason Smith uh to tackle. The

457
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Speaker 1: tackle from Baylor didn't play a long time in the league. So, um, gosh,

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Speaker 1: I can't think of another top I mean, the the

459
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Speaker 1: obvious comparison here is backer from Notre Dame stuffered a

460
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Speaker 1: horrific injury in the Fiesta Bowl against Ohio State. Um,

461
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Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy that was a consensus top

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Speaker 1: five pick, drops out of the first round, is picked

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Speaker 1: by Dallas in the second round, takes a while, they

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Speaker 1: come back. Then when he plays, um, he has the

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Speaker 1: brace to offset the drop foot. Then he finally plays

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Speaker 1: in there he's performing at a level that uh, it's

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl caliber. But yeah, he is the only one.

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Speaker 1: But it cost him a lot of money on the

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Speaker 1: the the beginning, but made up for it now a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Got the big contract, got a big contract.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys were able to get a first round

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Speaker 1: value of top ten value at the top of the

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Speaker 1: second round. Um, it worked for them, right, So that's

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Speaker 1: that's also something to consider here. You know if that's

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Speaker 1: an area of because that was a year where we

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Speaker 1: saw Miles Jack go in the second round too when

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Speaker 1: the concerns of knee injury came out, So there was

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Speaker 1: a second you know, the second round can sometimes be

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Speaker 1: viewed as a real boom or bust area. I know.

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Speaker 1: That's how kind of help Bill Belichick and the Patriots

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Speaker 1: have seen it. Will take a risk in the second

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Speaker 1: round on something that we view two have a potentially

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Speaker 1: big reward, and then look, if it doesn't work, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't work out, but you want to get that player

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Speaker 1: before they start. You know, you have less and less

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Speaker 1: control over in the third and the fourth and the fifth,

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Speaker 1: in the sixth round. But uh, not saying that too

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Speaker 1: is gonna slide that far. But I think I think,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a sweet spot. I think

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Speaker 1: worst case you're talking about the second round where um

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Speaker 1: one economics make it almost a no brandon to be

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Speaker 1: able to take a guy that has first round talent,

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Speaker 1: regardless of the injury history, because it doesn't cost you

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Speaker 1: that much. The cap implications aren't severe enough that it

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Speaker 1: would dissuade you from making a move on that. So

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Speaker 1: so why not view that second round as a safe

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Speaker 1: haveing four player who has some issues being injury or

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Speaker 1: character or or the like. So then you know as

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Speaker 1: that the whole situation is developing. If to us slides down,

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Speaker 1: who benefits draft man? I think the biggest beneficiary right

501
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Speaker 1: now is Joe Burrow. Uh. Two weeks ago, we saw

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Speaker 1: these guys square it off, and I think he's debatable

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Speaker 1: about which guy was the best one on the field.

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Speaker 1: And I say it's debatable in in In this regard,

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was more productive heat definitely shine on that

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Speaker 1: big stage against Alabama's defense. We saw him make these

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Speaker 1: pro throws. We saw the competitiveness, We saw him lead

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Speaker 1: him back, we saw him seal the deal as a

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Speaker 1: closer to Uh played with an injury and he got

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Speaker 1: off to a slow start, but then by the end

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Speaker 1: of the game, we saw flashes of the tour that

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Speaker 1: kind of made him Uh the guy that was celebrated

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Speaker 1: as potentially the number one overall pick in this draft.

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Speaker 1: When you go back and you look at it, you're

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Speaker 1: you're removed to us. So now Joe Burrow, okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: positioned as the number one justin Herbert who people love

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Speaker 1: the prototypical physical dimensions, the size, the arm, talent, the athleticism.

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Speaker 1: You still haven't seen him have a signature performance in

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Speaker 1: a major game, a big game, like what is the

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Speaker 1: game that we can put on path and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you roll that game that is going to show us

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Speaker 1: everything that he is. So you're still looking for that.

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Speaker 1: But from a prototypical standpoint, he checks off all the boxes.

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Speaker 1: Then you have guys Um like a Jake from a

525
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Speaker 1: Jake from who is maybe one of the best game

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Speaker 1: managers that I've ever seen in terms of just playing

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Speaker 1: the game the right way, the way he controls the offense,

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Speaker 1: the way that he just makes the plays that are

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Speaker 1: there to be made UH with a few mistakes. However,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have the big arm, he doesn't necessarily have

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Speaker 1: the UH overwhelming or imposing frame to make you think

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Speaker 1: that he's a traditional UH franchise quarterback. But he has

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Speaker 1: a lot of value because he's won a lot of

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Speaker 1: game and he fended off a bunch of challenges, including

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Speaker 1: the guy that's behind him and Jacob eeson. So what

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Speaker 1: is he fit in that? You know? And then with

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Speaker 1: jacobees and Jacobs is as talented as they come, Like

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Speaker 1: he's a big time arm talent. He can make all

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Speaker 1: these throws. He is playing on the Chris Peterson in utup,

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Speaker 1: so you know he's getting good coaching hasn't always popped

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Speaker 1: on tape, but the flashes are good enough to lead

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Speaker 1: your imagine to wonder what could he be like in

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Speaker 1: a pro offense with a great offensive mind. Easton completing

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Speaker 1: about six of his passes, twenty touchdowns, the seven interceptions. Um, look,

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Speaker 1: it's not the two numbers, it's not the Borough numbers,

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Speaker 1: it's not even the Jalen Hurts numbers, you know, So

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Speaker 1: that that'll be I think that will be a hard

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Speaker 1: thing for people to come to grips with when we're

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Speaker 1: getting into this process as well, because they're going to

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Speaker 1: see the numbers from Jalen Hurts and be like, how

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Speaker 1: in the world could he possibly, you know, fall out

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Speaker 1: of the first round. Well, you look, you just gotta

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Speaker 1: kind of take you gotta put everything into a pot.

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Speaker 1: Like for instance, you know, when Josh Allen came out,

555
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Speaker 1: didn't have the numbers, right when Carson Wentz came out,

556
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Speaker 1: didn't have the numbers. They had the armed talent, they

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Speaker 1: had the qualities that certain scouts and certain executives you know,

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Speaker 1: drooled over and rightly so for some reasons. And like

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Speaker 1: Jordan's love is another one of those guys. He's sitting

560
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Speaker 1: here at you know, thirteen touchdowns, fourteen interceptions. But then

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Speaker 1: you have to also take into account his coaching staff left.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's dealing with the new coach in his

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Speaker 1: junior season. Also makes me wonder whether he might even

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Speaker 1: come back. Year hasn't been great. No, it hasn't been

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Speaker 1: great for him. And how can you leave with that

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Speaker 1: kind of moment I don't kind of momentum as been

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Speaker 1: created by that thirteen and fourteen season. Thirteen touch sounds,

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Speaker 1: fourteen interceptions. You probably have more questions than answers, And um,

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Speaker 1: the Pat Mahomes comparison probably has gone by the wayside

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Speaker 1: as the turnovers have come have kind of comeing and

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Speaker 1: and bunches. But he's talented, he's big, he's athletic. He

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Speaker 1: he's doing his best with maybe a limited um crew

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Speaker 1: of playmakers around him. But um, you know, he came

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Speaker 1: in with a lot of fanfare and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people were excited about him, and he's disappointed. It's a

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Speaker 1: good kid too. Let's let's see what he decides and

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Speaker 1: he terms after he recess after into the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got an opportunity obviously to come back just a junior,

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Speaker 1: uh in terms of eligibility. So all right, if we've

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Speaker 1: if we figured out, we'll try to figure out what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen with two of the other question. Then is

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts? I mentioned him briefly here. Um has been

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Speaker 1: in the Heisman conversation with the numbers that he's putting

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Speaker 1: up at Oklahoma. Impressive comeback over Baylor. They come back

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Speaker 1: to win thirty four, thirty one on the game that

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Speaker 1: they were down big. I believe it's three at one point.

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Speaker 1: They come all the way back and get the win.

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Speaker 1: Is there a given to his injury? Is there a

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Speaker 1: spot now a possibility here where Jalen Hurts gets drafted

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Speaker 1: ahead of to H. I mean it's a look, it's

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Speaker 1: a possibility. Not saying that's going to happen, but it's something.

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Speaker 1: I mean that depending on the prognosis. There's not a

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Speaker 1: lot of variable. I think a couple of different things

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Speaker 1: with with Jalen Hurts. He has been so um dramatically

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Speaker 1: different in its Oklahoma office compared to what he was

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Speaker 1: in a Amma. So scouts now have to determine is

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Speaker 1: it him or is it system? Is he propped up

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Speaker 1: by a system that is seemingly flawless for quarterbacks, anyone

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Speaker 1: could just be dropped in and have a lot of success.

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Speaker 1: But this game against Bailor was actually a good game

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Speaker 1: for him because we actually saw him mess it up.

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Speaker 1: He messed it up, put the ball on the ground,

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Speaker 1: turned it over, all of those things, and we saw

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Speaker 1: him bring his team back. And so sometimes there's more

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Speaker 1: value in just watching the players struggle and knowing he's

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Speaker 1: struggling and scuffling against certain things, a certain front, certain people,

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Speaker 1: but then he's able to kind of calm himself down

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Speaker 1: and make enough place to not only get his team

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Speaker 1: back in the game, but to eventually win the game.

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Speaker 1: I think he actually comes away with positive marks after this,

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Speaker 1: agree as opposed to the negative. I agree, And I

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Speaker 1: think in terms of football character, toughness and tell it,

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Speaker 1: I mean like, there won't be anybody who rates better

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Speaker 1: than Jalen Hurts Uh from what we saw him do

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Speaker 1: at Alabama and then now um at Oklahoma. So that'll

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Speaker 1: be that it will be interesting. I talked to I'll

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Speaker 1: talked to a high ranking executive or team in the NFC,

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Speaker 1: and I asked him about Jalen Hurts and I made

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Speaker 1: the comparison, the Jalen Hurts Dak Prescott deal, like do

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Speaker 1: you see these guys and something? He was like, man,

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Speaker 1: that's a really good comparison. And it's not only just

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Speaker 1: in terms of how they play, but physically how they're

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Speaker 1: When you look at Dak Prescott, thick our body, you

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Speaker 1: can tell he can kind of withstand punishment, very strong

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Speaker 1: um build. When to look at Jalen Hurts, same thing,

626
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Speaker 1: strong build, and haven't had an opportunity to get around

627
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Speaker 1: him in the summer and watch him through throw you

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Speaker 1: knew he was a much better pass and maybe he

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Speaker 1: was getting credit for. So now you see him in

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley's offense, the same offense that produced the last

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Speaker 1: two number one overall picks in Baker Mayfield and Kyla Murray.

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Speaker 1: You're looking at the numbers, you begin to kind of

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Speaker 1: contrast and compare and maybe if you squint hard enough,

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Speaker 1: maybe Jayden Hurts does creep into the first round. Is

635
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Speaker 1: in that conversation? Yeah, alright, So look the if you

636
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Speaker 1: haven't figured it out already, the quarterbacks in this year's draft. Un,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be fascinating. I mean, even more so than

638
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: the year we had the five come out. Um, we

639
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Speaker 1: had Lamar from Baker to Lamar, you know, and there

640
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: was such um, you know, wide range of views on

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Speaker 1: who should be the first one overall and where Sam

642
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: Donald should go and Josh Rosen and uh and now

643
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, seeing some of that transpire a little bit, um,

644
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: it just makes me think about this year's class and

645
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: and how much fun we're gonna have talking about where

646
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna end up and where they should go. Um.

647
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: So again, um, you know this is gonna be pretty

648
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: cool to watch, but we'll we'll do it with you

649
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: on path of the Draft. Will be with you every

650
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: step of the way from the UH East West Shrine

651
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: game to the Senior Bowl to path to the combine

652
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: to to the Draft in Vegas. This year gonna be

653
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun.

654
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm excited about uh what it is to come because

655
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: we have good topics and that makes it a lot

656
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: of fun. So to combine path to the Draft, everything

657
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: should be exciting to talk about. Oh now it's our

658
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: pleasure here on the Movies Stix podcast to be joined

659
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Speaker 1: by the architect one of the best offenses in football

660
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: right now, the eight and two Seattle Seahawks and offensive

661
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: coordinator Brian Schottenheimer in his second year Uh leading that offense.

662
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: So glad to have you with us here, Shaddy. What's

663
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: going on? Man? Okay, I'm doing great, guys. Fired up

664
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Speaker 1: to get a few minutes, spent some time with you

665
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: as Uh. Enjoyed the buy. But now I'm ready to

666
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: get to get back to competing on Sundays. Oh heck,

667
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: yeah man, And yeah, look I mentioned you guys have

668
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: one of the best offenses in football right now. You've

669
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Speaker 1: got maybe the leader uh in the m v P

670
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: race in Russell Wilson, off to one of his best

671
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: starts of his career this season. Uh. You know, and

672
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: you've talked to me before and he said he wants

673
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: he wants to be the greatest ever, right, And I

674
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: think for a guy who wants to do that and

675
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: wants to be in that conversation, you obviously have to

676
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: have an exceptional routine right day to day, week to week.

677
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: We get that. But is there something that you've observed

678
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Speaker 1: from him in his preparation or the way he carries

679
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: his himself that that allows you to say, yeah, he's

680
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: gonna have that opportunity. I think, you know, you hit

681
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: the nail on the head with me. With Russ, it

682
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: comes down to his work ethic. I mean it's it's

683
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 1: it's top notch. Uh. And it's not just that he

684
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: works hard. I mean everybody in this business has to

685
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: has to work at it, right. Uh. They gotta they

686
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: gotta take care of their bodies, they gotta do the

687
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: film study, they gotta work on their preparation, they gotta

688
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: do all that stuff. But he does it at an

689
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: unbelievably consistent level. Like he just he doesn't he doesn't change.

690
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: I mean he is so he believes so strongly in

691
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: his routine that I mean, he is just a tireless worker. Um,

692
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, And that's that's great for us as a

693
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: staff because it challenges us. It challenges us to kind

694
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: of make sure we're we're you know, looking back at

695
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: other games or times did they played him again? And um,

696
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: he's just a phenomenal, phenomenal worker, And um again, it

697
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me that that he's playing the way he

698
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: is because Uh, like you said, he wants to be

699
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: the best that's ever done it. Uh, and he works

700
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: that way tirelessly and should he does. He puts together

701
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: his own uh scouting report each week, which is which

702
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: is phenomenal. I mean, you know, we obviously do one

703
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: as as an offensive staff, but he puts one together

704
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: um by himself, and it's phenomenal. I mean he just

705
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: he he hits on everything. He hits on the backup

706
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: defensive tackles, he hits us on the backup safeties. I

707
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: mean it is, it's phenomenal, and uh hands it out

708
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: to the guys and just does a great job with it.

709
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: He's what you want from from that leadership role and

710
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: the guy that kind of when they see him working

711
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: like that, then there's no excuses. I mean they have

712
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: to they have to bring their a game in terms

713
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: of their prep and the way that they want to

714
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: work in practice. You know, Brian, I'm so excited to

715
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: talk to you because I think you have one of

716
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: the unique challenges in football. You have a franchise quarterback

717
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: who's showing it he can do it as a passer,

718
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: Yet your team is committed to running football and you

719
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: run it better than anybody in football in terms of

720
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: the number of carries. How do you balance that, Hey,

721
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: we are a run first team even though we have

722
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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback in place. Well, I think it goes

723
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: back to it's really Buckey more than anything. It's just

724
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: the mindset, right, you know, we want to be a

725
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: physical football team, and everything comes off of our running game.

726
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: When people have to worry about our ability to run

727
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: the football behind d Wayne Brown and and Mikey Potty

728
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: and and handed to Chris Carson and those guys, what

729
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: it opens up for us with the play pass stuff.

730
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Speaker 1: I mean, as you understand is it is very, very

731
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: difficult to stop um. But again, at the same time,

732
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: we want to be able to win games different ways.

733
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Speaker 1: So you know, when when you know we gotta go

734
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: into overtime two weeks ago against Tampa Bay, you know,

735
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: we go into over time, we kind of extended the

736
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: game and we forced you know, uh, took the lead

737
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: and they came back. We stayed in that kind of

738
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: up tempo, um, no huddle type mindset because we you know,

739
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: we believed in Russ and that that was working at

740
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: the time. So again, I think it's important for us

741
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: that we have the ability to beat people both ways. Uh,

742
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: and we know Russ is gonna be there when we

743
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: need them. But it really does feed off of itself.

744
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: And um, you know, when we're running the football well,

745
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: the play pass are there, and even when quite honestly,

746
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: even if we're struggling in one phase or the other,

747
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: we really believe that we'll we'll figure out the adjustments

748
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: and make the corrections to allow us to to hurt people. So, UM,

749
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: it's really it's quite easy to be honest with you

750
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: when you have a philosophy that that's built that way.

751
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: As opposed to saying, hey, we're gonna go and drop

752
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: back fifty times and throw it. We're not gonna do that.

753
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna have variety, we're gonna show people different things,

754
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,240
Speaker 1: and um, he's so good at all the different things,

755
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: which is which is what makes my job easy. And

756
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: along the same lines, we talk a lot about roster

757
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: construction here on this podcast, a little bit obviously with

758
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: the front office experience of Bucky in DJ, But when

759
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: you're constructing an offense, right when you're constructing, even if

760
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: it's game plan week to week or before the season,

761
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: is you're trying to figure out what you guys really

762
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: want to do? How much do you how do you

763
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: kind of balance and put into account the personnel and

764
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: the skill sets that your personnel has with your organizational philosophy,

765
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: and then you know what you have and what you

766
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: want to do as a play caller, how do you

767
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: kind of fit all that together? Well, again, I've been fortunate.

768
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: I've been around a bunch of different organizations. And if

769
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: there's a better one that works together than the Seattle Seahawks,

770
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: I have not been around it. I mean Pete and

771
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: John Schneider and their ability to work together and the

772
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: philosophy of what we're trying to bring in here. A

773
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: cool example right that that that you see is you know,

774
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: we obviously want to be a physical team. We want

775
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: to be a team that can run the football and

776
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: use our playpath. And so you look at the way

777
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: are offen of lines built, right, I mean we are

778
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: a very very physical group. You got your potty of guard,

779
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: you got Flucary guard, you got Dwayne Brown, you got

780
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: Jermaine a Fette, three twenty pound right tackle. Uh, then

781
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: of course we've got George Fant that we can throw

782
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: in there. So Um, they do a masterful job of

783
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: of sharing information. Uh. Talking from the day I got here,

784
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, they wanted my input of how I kind

785
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: of saw this thing being built and along with the

786
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: rest of the offensive staff. And it's just it's so

787
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: easy to communicate with these guys, um that you know,

788
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: not that we we don't agree on everything, but you know,

789
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: once the decisions made, we all move forward say hey,

790
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: that's the best decision for the organization. And so um

791
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: they make it so easy here and again, I'm just

792
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be a part of such a awesome

793
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: organization that really again communicates at every level I'm talking

794
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: about from GM to head coach, head coach to the

795
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: coordinator to assistance that coaches the players. I mean, it

796
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: is a fabulous, fabulous culture that's been built here, you know. Uh.

797
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: Brannick and let you go without talking about your dad,

798
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: Marty Schoenheimer have an opportunity to play with for him

799
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. I just want to know what that

800
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 1: influence has been in terms of watching your dad, who

801
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: won two bunch of games in the National Football League.

802
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: What is the biggest takeaway that you've learned from having

803
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: your dad have so much success in the National Football League. Well,

804
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: I would say, it's a cool question, by the way, Bucky,

805
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: I would say two things. You'll you'll probably laugh at

806
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: the first one. But the first one is just, you know, uh,

807
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: the importance of ball security. I mean, he was obviously

808
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: always talking about that, and it's really cool because Pete

809
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: believes in the same philosophy here, just in terms of

810
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: how you gotta win the turnover, you know, battle, you

811
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: gotta win the giveaway takeaway things. So that's the first

812
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: thing that that he kind of ingrained into me, even

813
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: when I was playing as a high school quarterback. You know, hey,

814
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, I think my senior year I threw I

815
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: wasn't very good, by the way, but my senior year

816
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: I was like like twenty touchdowns, but I threw like

817
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: three interceptions, and and that was the thing he was

818
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: the most proud of, was the fact that I took

819
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: care of the football um. And then the other thing

820
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: is the importance of fundamentals as a coach. In today's

821
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: day and age, with free agency and roster trans you know,

822
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: transactions and things like that, you have to have coaches

823
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: that can develop players fundamentals. Because he always said it

824
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: this way, if you're going up against the guy that's

825
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: evenly matched, So if you're lined up against the player

826
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: that's as good as you are, as talented as you are,

827
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: the guy that's ultimately gonna win the battle in those

828
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: sixties sixty five snaps, whatever it is, is the guy

829
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: that has the better foundation of fundamentals. And that's something

830
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: that I kind of caught on as a as a

831
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: young coach, and and really to this day, I believe

832
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: that that separates the great coaches from the good coaches.

833
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: The guys that can break down the fundamentals and the

834
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: foundation of how you build a quarterback stance or how

835
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: you teach a running back to past protection. The guy

836
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: that the coaches that teach that I think have the

837
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: ability to draw the most out of their players on

838
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: a consistent basis. So when we were talking this past

839
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: summer down to camp, just drawing again on some of

840
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: your influences as a coach. Obviously I haven't played for

841
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: coach Spurrier down there, and uh and and and being

842
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: with him in Florida. You you told a story about

843
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: how coach used to always set up Chris Doring to block,

844
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: and then I asked you. I was like, is that why?

845
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: Is that why you put Doug Baldwin back there in

846
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: past protection for a snapper? Two? Is that why you

847
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: got Geron Brown motioning in there to lead Chris Carson

848
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: through a hole? Is that where some of those influences

849
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: come from. Well here's the difference. Uh, Coach Spurer didn't

850
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: care if Chris Dorn was blocking a defensive end, whether

851
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 1: he was blocking a linebacker. We tried to avoid those.

852
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: I can't all that happens. But again, I mean it

853
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: was amazing. I mean, coach was just he just was

854
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: so um, he was so he believed so strongly in

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Speaker 1: the system that we didn't have a lot of hots

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Speaker 1: in sights. It's hard to teach that, you know, in

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Speaker 1: college football with the time and stuff. And uh, sure enough,

858
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Speaker 1: remember he saw seven man protection coming. We'd be sitting

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Speaker 1: there in ten personnel and he would have Danny check

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Speaker 1: to our seven man max protection and your game Chris

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Speaker 1: Doring trying to block, you know, I mean, these these

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Speaker 1: unbelievable defense Peter bullwears and times, unbelievable players. And it

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Speaker 1: was almost like how but it worked, and it worked?

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Speaker 1: It worked. Sometimes Danny got hit but he normally, he

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Speaker 1: normally completed the past for some explosive play and that

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Speaker 1: was really a cool time for me to be down there.

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Speaker 1: And I mean I truly went down there to learn

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Speaker 1: from coach Spur and what a great, what a great

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Speaker 1: time we had down there. We had a bunch of

870
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Speaker 1: success and I learned a tone of offensive football from him.

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Speaker 1: That's so cool. I love hearing about where the influences

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Speaker 1: come from and where you kind of uh cut your

873
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Speaker 1: teeth and make your mark and develop what you want

874
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: to be as a coach. And we love watching it

875
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Speaker 1: right now every Sunday with the Seattle Seahawks. And I

876
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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys. It's it's been a fun, fun ride

877
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Speaker 1: so far. We got a long way to go, but

878
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Speaker 1: what a great group of guys. We get a chance

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Speaker 1: to work with each and every day, and that's what

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Speaker 1: makes the journey the most fun. No no doubt, we

881
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Speaker 1: certainly enjoyed our our time with you. Hopefully we do

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Speaker 1: it again sometime real soon. That sounds good. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys. Have have a great rest of your day.

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Speaker 1: Okay you too, Oh man, It's it's it's always so

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Speaker 1: good kind of getting going behind the curtain a little

886
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Speaker 1: bit and finding out where somebody gets their influence. Where

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Speaker 1: somebody it's the things that have molded them into the

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Speaker 1: coach that we see today. And obviously you've you've taken

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Speaker 1: a lot from, you know, the same place that that

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Speaker 1: that Brian Shottennhimer has and that was which is Yeah, Look,

891
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Speaker 1: his dad is one of the greatest coaches in NFL history.

892
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if he gets enough credit for

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Speaker 1: what he was able to accomplish in the league. But

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Speaker 1: I think when you hear Brian talk about those things,

895
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Speaker 1: you ever talk about ball security and fundamentals, I can't

896
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 1: tell you how Marty would stress those things, uh each

897
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: and every day on the practice field in meetings and

898
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Speaker 1: it really works. And the one thing that I will

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Speaker 1: say when it comes to Briant, I am seeing his

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Speaker 1: dad's influence in the way the Seattle Seahawks played, particularly

901
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Speaker 1: on offense. One of the things that has always been

902
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: a big part of success is winning the turnover battle,

903
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Speaker 1: winning the rushing battle. You have more rushing yards than

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Speaker 1: your opponents, typically you win games. And so the fundamentals

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Speaker 1: that he alludes to, Brian Schottenheimer has been a unique situation,

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Speaker 1: and it's one of the reasons why he will begin

907
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Speaker 1: to get hit. Co Waching love to have a franchise

908
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Speaker 1: quarterback but run an offense that is built for the ages,

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Speaker 1: meaning they run the football, their physical they do things

910
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Speaker 1: in a manner where they play complimentary ball for their

911
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Speaker 1: defense while allowing Russell Wilson to thrive. It is uncommon

912
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Speaker 1: to find an offensive coordinated that is able to blend

913
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Speaker 1: all those things together. The's able to keep the winning

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Speaker 1: agenda high while also making sure he takes care of

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Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback. Unique. Yeah, it is, indeed, and I've

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Speaker 1: been impressed at the way they've adapted as well. You

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Speaker 1: go back to last year, they were giving up a

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Speaker 1: bunch of sacks while they start bringing in the sixth

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Speaker 1: offensive line and they figure out ways to accentuate and

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Speaker 1: make up for their weaknesses and their deficiencies and and

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Speaker 1: it's been really fun to watch. And there are very

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Speaker 1: few deficiencies with that offense this year, especially with the

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Speaker 1: new blood and DK Metcalf and um. They got some

924
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Speaker 1: fun stuff going on there in Seattle. Looking forward to

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Speaker 1: watching that over this final stretch of this season. And

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us on this edition of

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Speaker 1: the Move the Stakes podcast. To be sure to go

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Speaker 1: uh download, subscribing, and of course leave a comment a

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Speaker 1: question in the comments section and we will answer some

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Speaker 1: of the best ones on Thursday's edition when dju is

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Speaker 1: back in the house. Buck anything else before we get

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Speaker 1: out of here. It was great man, you were back.

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Speaker 1: They didn't say you didn't say Pepu before this, But

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Speaker 1: I think maybe you're you're feeling yourself because any and

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Speaker 1: who's yours football may come on, we're going. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go nine and three after we beat Michigan this week

937
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Speaker 1: and Purdue to finish up the season like that. You

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Speaker 1: heard it here first. All right, Uh fun hanging out

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Speaker 1: with you guys today. We're back with you later this week.

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Speaker 1: That's it for in this sedition of the Move the

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Speaker 1: Sticks Podcast.