1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: If this is the Meat Eater Podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listening podcast, you 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: can't predict anything. 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: The Meat Eater Podcast is brought to you by first Light. 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: Whether you're checking trail cams, hanging deer stands, or scouting 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: for ELP. First Light has performance apparel to support every 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: hunter in every environment. Check it out at first light 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: dot com. F I R S T l I t 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: E dot com. Joined today by world famous text and 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: Jesse Griffiths, author of uh, the very creatively titled The 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: Hog Book and the Turkey Book, just comes right out 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: and tells you what the book is. Yeah, you don't 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 2: need to look at that book and wonder what those 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: books are about. 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: No, by design, Yeah. 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: I've accused being a wild hog apologist. Jesse Griffins knows 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: how to make phenomenal stuff out of wild hogs of 18 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: all varieties, and The Hog Book tells you all about 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: how to do. 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: That top to bottom. 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: Anyone that tells you, oh, you can't eat them, and 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: you can eat them when they're this age, or eat 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: them at that age, or eat them. 24 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: When they're one. 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: Hundred and twenty pounds or pregnant or not pregnant, or 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: if you ever want to know, like, what is actually 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: up about wild hogs from a guy who has handled more. 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: This is a bold statement, Bungus, stick by it. 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: We can vet it. I'll be honest. 30 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: A guy that has handled okay, a guy that is 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: handled and served more wild hog meat than anybody. 32 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 4: On the planet. 33 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, it'd be hard to quantify, 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: but an awful lot. How about a lot, A lot, 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: a lot hundreds, yeah, not thousandsed, a lot, seen a 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: lot of them dead. 37 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: Served a lot of it, a lot of them, eating 38 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: a pile of them. 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 2: No, the hog book is no, it's no guesswork, it's 41 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: no rumor. It's just like what you know to be 42 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: true from a career of working in them. 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like answers to questions and people, would you 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: know over the years, be like, what you know? Can 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: you eat them? If they're one hundred and twenty pounds 46 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: and over? Can you eat a bore? Can you eat them? 47 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: A South? It's not pregnant. You need a South? It 48 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: is pregnant. You know what's your favorite recipe? Name it? 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: And you know, just kind of a compilation of answers 50 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: the questions that I got, and. 51 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: Then follow that up with the Turkey Book, which tells 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: you everything you'd ever want to know about preparing turkeys, 53 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: preparing every part of every part of every turkey. 54 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely that one was more of a kind of 55 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: dressed for the job. You want deal, really want to 56 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: just spend a whole spring turkey hunting, So he documented 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: it and then did a much recipes good deal. 58 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 5: Those are both available at the meat eater dot com. 59 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: Correct and then what we're gonna He's been on the 60 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: show a few times before. He recently got a a 61 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: Michelin Star for Die a. 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but to be clear Michelin Green Star. 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 4: Well no, but I'm saving that. 64 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, Phil backtracks a little bit. I just ruined it. 65 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: I was toying with reading this Mercer longs Die Do 66 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: a review. I'm just gonna read the first line. My 67 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: quail plate was very good, fantastic, Actually. 68 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 6: How many stars? 69 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 7: Nervous? 70 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 4: Come on, I don't want to do it. 71 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 7: I don't want to. 72 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 5: But long was what was what? Episode number? Guest? 73 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: I don't want to do it. 74 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: I gotta know, you know. 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: It's the odd Dad meatballs. Very good. 76 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: Building up, a little more. She's gotta hurt, all right. 77 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: The nil guy steakak he would have preferred the chimmy 78 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: cherry on the side. 79 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 5: Sounds like and that Mercer Lawe was on episode four 80 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 5: oh seven. California's ward would have. 81 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: Been a great dish if they had just put it 82 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: on the side. 83 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 6: Can we pause for a second. How does this make 84 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 6: you feel? 85 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: Right now? 86 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: Across the bar? Across the bar very bold Flavors never 87 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: had a meal quite like it. 88 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: There you go. 89 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 7: Oh, that's what I'm talking about. 90 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: There's a little more in there. I'll share with you later. 91 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: We'll just kind of little Yeah, he's my favorite. 92 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: It's like, honest to god, Mas Died do A is 93 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: my favorite restaurant. 94 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: Oh, that's super kind of. 95 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: Another thing I like about it. We've talked about this 96 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: when you're on the show before. Like something that most 97 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: restaurants would be like would be like in glowing neon 98 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: signs and ship outside. But like at the bottom of 99 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: Jesse's I don't know if you changed it. At the 100 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: bottom of Jesse's menu says everything is from around here. 101 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: From the author of the book, just in. 102 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: Little letters at the bottom of the menu, everything is 103 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: from around here, meaning it's like all local stuff. It's 104 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: like all Texas. 105 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 3: We call that an economy of dialogue. 106 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 4: Everything is from around here. 107 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 8: It's not sandwiched into the description of each dish. 108 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: Now, don't put farms in there. 109 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: And it's just everything that everything around. 110 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 5: You still have that slogan because I'm wearing the original shirt. 111 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 5: It says, eat a hog, Save the world. 112 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's more hashtag, you know, feral hog, apologies, apologists, propaganda. 113 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk Jesse a bunch about food, cooking food. 114 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 6: Well, I want to know real quick, how many Michelin 115 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 6: Star restaurants are Michelin Green Star restaurants? Uh serve things 116 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,119 Speaker 6: with like a ramikin of something on the side. 117 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: None of them. 118 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: You need to put that chimney cherry in a squirt bottle. 119 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: Catchup, we could get it in a little packet. 120 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: Then you get open plastic. 121 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 7: What is a green Star? 122 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: That's what the whole show is about. 123 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 7: I didn't read that. I didn't read the notes. 124 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't say that. Notes just lives in my head. 125 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: Now now it's now we're gonna turn the heat the Yanni. 126 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: After all that praise. Now we're going to criticize Yanni 127 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: up and down. 128 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 4: You're in a little tear this morning. We set there surprises. 129 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 7: I should have read the notes. 130 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: Well, Yanni killed a kill fish. 131 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 7: Cool to remove sailfish from the water in the US. 132 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 4: So I'll tell the story. 133 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: Yannie went to like a little party, a party in Guatemala. Yeah, 134 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 2: it wasn't like a fiftieth birthday party. 135 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 7: Oh well, we went on a fishing trip to celebrate 136 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 7: celebrate my brother in law's fiftieth birthday. We didn't do 137 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 7: much partying. 138 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: Okay, Yanni went on a birthday fish and trip. Well 139 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: that is birthday fish and trip. He committed a terrible 140 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: sin which I didn't know. I didn't know about. 141 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 7: I'd like to point out you, Sish. I did it. 142 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 7: The captain and the mates were like, we don't really 143 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 7: do this, but I'm like, I really need the gripping grint, 144 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 7: you know from the gram. 145 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: Caught a sale fish for no reason, then for just 146 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: to screw it, or as Mitch Hedberg said, to make 147 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: it late for something and lifts it out of the 148 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: water and takes a picture. Then Brendan Rund came here. 149 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: What was it, RUNDI or run? He was on the show. 150 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: I think it's Rundy. 151 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: Rundy from the Nature Conservancy, who was on episode five 152 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: thirty eight discussing a subject that now seems so incredibly dated, 153 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: which was does wildlife win or lose with renewable energy? 154 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: And he wrote in and saw Joannie's Instagram post and he, 155 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: like many people do, and they have a problem with something, 156 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: reach out decarn In the US, I didn't know this. 157 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: It is now illegal to remove billfish from the water 158 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: unless you're keeping them. They did ale a satellite tagging 159 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: study on white marlin. If you if you leave a 160 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: white marlin in the water when you catch it, the 161 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: mortality rate. Now, don't do that crap where you say 162 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: a number that's gonna make it fill knows what I'm 163 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: talking about. Well, you guys are you can see it. 164 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: I can't do like a take again, oh Jesse, take 165 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 2: a guess and try to like play work with me here. 166 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: Don't don't make it look bad. If you catch a 167 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: white marlin and leave it in the water, catch them 168 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: with these fishing you leave in the water and release it. 169 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: What do you think the odds are he'll die. 170 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 3: One and ten? 171 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: Good? 172 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: Good job, you. 173 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 4: Know it's only one point seven. 174 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: It's only it's only one point seven percent. 175 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 4: Wow. 176 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: Right, So you were off by a what do you 177 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: call that exponential? No factor of ten? Off by a 178 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: decimal point? 179 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 4: Is that right? 180 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 5: I'm not sure about Yeah, one point. 181 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: I'm not a mask. He thought ten and one hundred. 182 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 7: It's too complicated. 183 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: He thought ten and one hundred die and thought that 184 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: was good, and thought that was good. But it's only 185 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: one and a half and one hundred. Die if you 186 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: leave in the water, if you act like Yanni, guess 187 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: what the odds he'll die? 188 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: Is am I taking another guess? 189 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: Try to, you know, make it be that it'll work 190 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: in my favor. Four out of ten, No, thirty three percent, 191 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: so close but even higher. So Yanni now has lay 192 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: in bed at night wondering that that. 193 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 9: Uh but Yanni, you can you can flip it around 194 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 9: and say, chances are you swam away and it's just fine. 195 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: You know, you know what's what's Here's what the odds are. 196 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: It's like in paper scissors rock, there's a one in 197 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 2: three rights. So here's Yanni, I guess rock, paper scissors. 198 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: Rock, paper scissors. 199 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: So I'm saying, if you're throwing Michigan, right, every time. 200 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: If you're throwing it, you got a three choice. Every 201 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: time you throw let's say a scissor. That means Yanni 202 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: killed a salefish. So rock nope, paper nope, scissor yep, 203 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: scissor yup. Rock nope. 204 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 7: Unless you like scissors a lot and you throw it 205 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 7: more often, then you kill more, kill morel. 206 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 4: Do you feel bad about this, yannest? 207 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 7: It was an honest mistake, you know, had I known 208 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 7: this prior to then, Like I said, the mates and 209 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 7: the captain, they don't do this. They do. They have 210 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 7: like a GoPro on a stick, So you just get 211 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 7: next to the boat and the go pro shoes from 212 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 7: way out in the water back towards the boat. 213 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: Wasn't good enough for you. 214 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 7: Of the other forty some fish that we caught, that's 215 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 7: the way we took pictures of the few that we 216 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 7: took pictures of. Most of the time they don't even 217 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 7: touch the fish. They just they they have a pole 218 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 7: with a little uh it's like, I don't know what. 219 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 7: It's like a paper cutter basically on the end. 220 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 3: Huh, just gorgeous. 221 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: It's not a curl cue. 222 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, it's literally a paper cutter. And it's 223 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 7: just taped to the end of this pole and they 224 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 7: go they go down the leader and just cut the 225 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 7: line right above the hook and just don't even touch 226 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 7: the hook and just let the hook rust out. They 227 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 7: catch so many of those sailfish down there. Because we 228 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 7: caught forty in three days, it's nothing for them to 229 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 7: catch forty in a day. And they'll catch them with 230 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 7: other hooks in the corner of their mouth, just like 231 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 7: you would like could see a trout, you know that 232 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 7: you can see the Yeah, you know it's been hooked 233 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 7: caught before. 234 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: So they do it by their trolling. 235 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: Explain the process of catching stale fish. 236 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's more in depth. It's more 237 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 7: in depth and more sort of involved for the anglers 238 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 7: than a lot of the trolling type fishing I've done 239 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 7: in the past, where a lot of times you're just 240 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 7: in a boat. The mates set up the rods, the 241 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 7: baits are in there, you're trolling, the captain's running the boat. 242 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 7: The fish bites a bait, it's pretty much on. A 243 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 7: mate grabs the rod, make sure it's it's hooked, and 244 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 7: then he hands it over to the angler and you 245 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 7: basically real you know, that's like your job. They don't 246 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 7: take the boat out of gear to make it extra 247 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 7: hard for you because you got to fight like the 248 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 7: current and the fish fighting. But here with the sailfish 249 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 7: out of I don't know the ten lines that are 250 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 7: in the water, there's actually only four hooks in there. 251 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 7: Everything else is just a teaser, meaning it's just a decoy. Right. 252 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 7: And so if you imagine these fish are hanging at 253 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 7: the thermal climb, which is roughly eighty feet, that's what 254 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 7: it was when we were there. That's where they're hanging 255 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 7: and they're looking up to where to find their food. 256 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 7: As they're cruising around. The boat comes over the top. 257 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 7: There's all the prop wash and whatever. And then in 258 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 7: that prop wash behind the prop washers, all these there's 259 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 7: like a whole, you know, school of baitfish swimming is 260 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 7: what it looks like. And there's all the smoke that's 261 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 7: coming off of them. They call it smoke. It's the 262 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 7: smaller wash coming off of these teasers. Right. So they 263 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 7: look up they go, oh my god, that's what I've 264 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 7: been looking for, you know, and they swim up the 265 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 7: eighty feet. And so when you're in the boat, you're 266 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 7: sitting there and you're just watching all the teasers, and 267 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 7: then all of a sudden in one behind one teaser. 268 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 7: Some of the teasers are like a group of baits. 269 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 7: You see the bill all of a sudden just above 270 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 7: the water, swatting back and forth right, because that's how 271 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 7: they kill a flying fish or I don't know if 272 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 7: it's sardine's whatever else they eat, but they whack them, 273 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 7: stunts them, they turn and eat them right. So at 274 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 7: that point the captain usually because he's up top in 275 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 7: the bridge so he can he has a better angle 276 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 7: to see it all, so he's they give you a 277 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 7: really good job of explaining how it's all going to 278 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 7: go down, and like what most importantly what right and 279 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 7: what left is because just as like when you're guiding 280 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 7: fly fishermen and you tell them the get cast to 281 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 7: the right, they cast to the left, and then you say, no, 282 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 7: jesse the other right. So the same thing happens here 283 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 7: because he goes right long teaser and like one of 284 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 7: the anglers goes and grabs a rod on the left 285 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 7: side of the boat and he's like, no, the other right. 286 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 4: It's like stage left, stage right, where is confused. 287 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 7: So as soon as like As an angler, your job 288 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 7: is to grab one of the baited rods. Hopefully the 289 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 7: rod where you know the bait is the closest to 290 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 7: said teaser. So if it's the right long you grab 291 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 7: the rod that's got the bait in the right long position. 292 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 7: You take out of the down rigor clip. As soon 293 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 7: as you have it in your hands, you take it 294 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 7: out of you put it to free spool, put your 295 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 7: thumb on the on the spool, and you're holding it. 296 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 7: And at that point, the mates are reeling all the 297 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 7: teasers in right. So the sailfish is in there amongst 298 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 7: all these teasers. He's trying to swat and kill something 299 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 7: to eat, and all of a sudden they all disappear. 300 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 7: And then the captain's like, hey, you're ten feet behind him. 301 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: Reel up. 302 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 7: So you flip it in gear, reel up like ten 303 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 7: feet and he goes stop. You go back to free 304 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 7: spool and you're holding it. He's like, wait, wait, he's 305 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 7: right behind it. And so the sailfish looks up and goes, oh. 306 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: Hey, got one. 307 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 7: There's the one. Whammo, and he eats it and you 308 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 7: feel like a slight tug on that ride is at 309 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 7: that point you take your thumb on that lighting up 310 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 7: on your drag and let him eat it and basically 311 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 7: count to four. This is the fun part. Already told 312 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 7: you this count to quatro, counta quattro. Yeah, you can 313 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 7: do it in Spanish if you want. And then at 314 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 7: that point you flip the you flip your drag and 315 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 7: get your drag. He's on you fight the fish. If 316 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 7: you're gonna do it on the fly, which is very 317 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 7: popular down here, there's basically one extra step there. You 318 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 7: have no baits in the water at all. It's all 319 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 7: just teasers. There's no hooks, right, so there's like a 320 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 7: dozen teasers just going behind the boat. Once the fish 321 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 7: comes in behind it, you grab your fly rod. You 322 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 7: have about ten or fifteen feet of line in the water. 323 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 7: It's like dragging behind the boat. So your rod it's 324 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 7: already drag the well, you know, you you dump it in, 325 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 7: you get it ready, so it's you're loading your rod 326 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 7: by that drag behind the boat again, all the mates 327 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 7: reel up, all the h the teasers, they bring him in. 328 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 7: The fish is still there like, well, what's up, but 329 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 7: they bring him in close because he's following those teasers in. 330 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 7: So if you jumped off the stern, you could land 331 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 7: on top of the sailfish. I mean that's how you 332 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 7: cast at them. No, no, you do. So you're holding 333 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 7: it on one side, You've loaded your rod, and depending 334 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 7: if that sailfish comes in on the right or the left, 335 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 7: you're gonna make one back cast and then shoot your line. 336 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 7: They actually want you to cast behind him. So when 337 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 7: the fish is like, oh, where'd everything go? And then 338 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 7: all of a sudden you start stripping and that bait 339 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 7: you know, comes right by me. 340 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: He goes, ah, there he is the captain still on 341 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: the throttle. 342 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 7: No, so to make it like legally caught by a 343 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 7: fly rod, he can't be in gear, yeah, because the 344 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 7: otherwise exactly, you're just trolling that fly. So basically before 345 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 7: you cast he comes out of gear, you make one 346 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 7: cast if it's What was hard for me to remember 347 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 7: was that if it was the left side of the boat, 348 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 7: you had to cast and then run over to the 349 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 7: left corner because you didn't want to strip your fly 350 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 7: into the prop wash because the fish loses side of 351 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 7: it because it's you know, it's so white in there, 352 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 7: got it, And so you want to move over to 353 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 7: the left side. To keep your fly out in the 354 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 7: clear water. But I don't know. I tugged it once 355 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 7: or twelve. He ate it and then you freeze just 356 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 7: like you would when he eats the bait right and 357 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 7: basically he takes all the slack out of your hands. 358 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 7: It comes tight and then if you still have it, 359 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 7: you know, mentally in you to remember, oh he turned left, 360 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 7: then you would sweep the rod to the right or 361 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 7: vice versa. You know, to make sure you get that 362 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 7: hook set, because even the fly is circle hooks right, 363 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 7: so they really want to make sure you can't set 364 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 7: the hook. My brother in law missed quite a few 365 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 7: fish because. 366 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: Couldn't over couldn't overcome the instinct to set the hook. 367 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, everybody loves setting the hook. 368 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 3: You know. 369 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: Does it put up a good toussle on a fly rod? 370 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know. Honestly, the tackle we were using, even 371 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 7: for the bait rods was pretty light, so both of 372 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 7: them were pretty good. But what you learn pretty quickly 373 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 7: is that as soon as he's on or she they're 374 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 7: going on a mad dash run amazing jumpers. And actually 375 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 7: I found out that the less pressure you apply with 376 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 7: it tackle, the more they stay towards the surface, and 377 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 7: the more jumping you get if you hook them on 378 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 7: super heavy duty stuff and just bear down on them, 379 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 7: which you could. These fish don't really go over one 380 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 7: hundred pounds much. Then they'll sort of sound on you 381 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 7: and not really jump, So they actually keep the tackle 382 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 7: a little bit lighter to keep them near the surface, 383 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 7: so you get the exciting jumps. And I mean we 384 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 7: had multiple fish that jumps excess of twenty times probably. 385 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: Wow. 386 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 2: What is the what is the reputation of a sale 387 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: fish for food for food quality? I gat it'm not good. 388 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 7: No, No, I think it is good. I think it's 389 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 7: just I think it's just fine to eat. Yeah, But 390 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 7: they're really trying to protect the resource there. What happens 391 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 7: there a lot, even though it's completely illegal, even in 392 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 7: these Guatemalan waters is we're fishing probably thirty miles off 393 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 7: but these pods of fish, and they don't really know 394 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 7: exactly the numbers, but it must be thousands, because I 395 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 7: mean there's a decent sized fleet there that might be 396 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 7: catching you know, thirty forty fish a day per boat. 397 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 7: But these pods elfish will move in closer to shore, 398 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 7: and once they get into that like three four mile mark, 399 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 7: the guild netters come out and hammer the shit out 400 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 7: of them. Oh and so the fleet will be catching 401 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 7: them at three miles for multiple days. But the word 402 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 7: gets out and then all of a sudden, one night 403 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 7: of guild netting and the fleet goes out and they're like, hey, 404 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 7: where's all the fish? Well they went. 405 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 6: Home, no, kid, Yeah, is steel for us, which is 406 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 6: a great great family name. Is steel four a day 407 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 6: for the sale fish. But yeah, super fast growing species 408 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 6: can hit five feet in its first year. Really yeah, 409 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 6: so but like Gianna said, you know, not super heavy, 410 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 6: so I'm at they are considered overfished by and large, 411 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 6: but it sounds like they're real fast growing. So like 412 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 6: the ability to rebound the popular would be. 413 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 4: Damn real good. 414 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: Did you guys catch me Tuniani? 415 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 7: Nope, that was definitely sort of a it would have 416 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 7: been a plus, like like it was a possibility tuna 417 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 7: and Dorado, but we saw neither of those, as well 418 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 7: as Marlin. We did raise one marlin meaning same thing. 419 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 7: He came up off the you know, thermal climb and 420 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 7: came into the teasers. But when I got I was 421 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 7: up in the bridge. Happened to be up there, and 422 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 7: I got to see him. It literally looked like he 423 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 7: came up there and then was like swimming alongside the 424 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 7: teasers like hey, you guys, he wasn't in there, like 425 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 7: I'm gonna mess you up. He was in there for 426 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 7: maybe thirty seconds and then just disappeared. 427 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: That's cool. 428 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 7: So yeah, it was all sale fish. But yeah, one 429 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 7: of the highlights. You know, the fishing was great, but man, 430 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 7: you just forget how good local food is. Like I 431 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 7: haven't been to that many tropical places to eat pineapples 432 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 7: where they you know, grow on trees and it's just 433 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 7: like it's nothing like a pineapple from the eat in 434 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 7: the United States. Same thing with the mangoes, the avocados, 435 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 7: you know they what else papaia is that we ate 436 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 7: and you know what they do a lot down there 437 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 7: when we were talking about this is they season their 438 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 7: fruit a lot, a lot of salt on the fruit. 439 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 7: And then that thing called yeah. 440 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: Ten my wife's been making that. 441 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 4: Yeah you were saying. 442 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 7: But yeah, so great, great food, just very fresh. Everything 443 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 7: down there is very kind of light and fresh. Didn't 444 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 7: eat a lot of heavy stuff. So yeah, super fun trip. 445 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 7: The Blue Bayou Sail Fishing Lodge if you're interested. 446 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: Oh, they they're like dedicated to sail fishing. 447 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, Jennifer's my wife's cousin. Rob Or is 448 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 7: one of the captains at the Blue Bayou sail Fishing Lodge. 449 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 7: So you can go fish with rob. 450 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 6: He's going to show your picture off and he's like, I, 451 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 6: I ton't you much guarantee you can't catch this one again, but. 452 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 4: There's a one in three he's unavailable. 453 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: I don't I've never even laid eyes on a selfish alive. 454 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 7: I only laid up eyes on one other one that 455 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 7: we caught out of Okra Cooke, North Carolina. Ones with 456 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 7: rob Or to you, but yeah, I haven't seen many 457 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 7: of them. 458 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: Well you know who we got, we got we're working 459 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: on coming on is uh some University of Wyoming Clovis experts. 460 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: Here's here's what what titilated me about, what got me 461 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: excited is we were down at University of Wyoming meeting 462 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: with the archaeologist down there looking at some collections. And 463 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: these guys are high like very esteemed archaeologists, and they 464 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: are still firm believers Clovis. First Clovis were the first Americans, 465 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 2: and they are big believers in the Blitz hypothesis overkill. 466 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: They're big believers in the overkill hypothesis with mammoths. 467 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: Meaning we always give, we always have Meltzer around. 468 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 5: Do we need a stage of debate. 469 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: Well, Meltzer likes him. 470 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 6: It's collegial, but you know, Steve will do his absolute 471 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 6: best to create some sort of. 472 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: He set it up. 473 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: He set up I know you guys have they're they're like, 474 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 2: they're respectful, they're respectful colleagues. Who I gather respectful colleagues 475 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: who just disagree on a couple of things. 476 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 4: That. 477 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: And so he's gonna he's coming on and they're gonna 478 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 2: we're working on getting them on, and they're gonna come 479 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: on and lay out the case. 480 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 4: And it's good. 481 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to like, I don't wanna get my 482 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: I don't want to do my own version. That's not 483 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: that good. They're gonna lay out the case that like 484 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: CLOBs first, Yeah, we got to mammoth hunters. 485 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 9: We got to see a mammoth skull that's being pieced 486 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 9: back together. We got to see some giant mammoth tusks 487 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 9: that you keep like lowering down to look further back 488 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 9: on the shelf because they just keep going like just 489 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 9: giant tusks, and Steve got to live out one of 490 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 9: his wildest fantasies and see someone doing archaeological drawings in person, 491 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 9: like a guy looking at a Clovis point, which is 492 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 9: my favorite art, sketching it in fine, fine detail. 493 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: He's gonna hook I'm gonna get I'm gonna get an 494 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: original from him, and I'm gonna frame it put in 495 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: the studio. 496 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: That's cool. 497 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 2: What else happened on here? I'll walk into this office 498 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: and there's this giant bone land there and I said, damn, 499 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: what's that off? He said, that's a rock and I said, 500 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: I thought I was a dinosaur bone. He said, so 501 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: is the guy that brought it here. He said, you 502 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: have it if you want. 503 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 6: The guy brought it. 504 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: Didn't you take it home with him? 505 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 7: Dude? 506 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: It looks it looks like it looks looks like the 507 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: head of a big It looks like a chunk of 508 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: a femur in the the end of the femur. 509 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, like percent, one hundred percent. 510 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 5: Guy, I should have brought that back. 511 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 4: No, I don't know. 512 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: Why our bags are already getting heavier. 513 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 4: Because we've got some beautiful books from. 514 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 5: Him to Speaking of bags. 515 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, let me do one more thing than 516 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: we'll talk about that bag. It would not have fit 517 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: in that bag. It was a big rock. I'm gonna 518 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: talk about that bag. I want to do one more 519 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: thing because Randall. I've been spending a lot of time 520 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: with Randall driving around, and Randall's been telling me about 521 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: just the world. I wasn't aware of that he's involved 522 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: in what's that State sales? Oh yeah, Randall waits for 523 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 2: old men to die. 524 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: Well, they're dying in. 525 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 4: Rand think. 526 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 2: I was telling Randall if he wants to get serious 527 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 2: about this, that he would start finding grudges. It had 528 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: a lot of interesting stuff, and then check on the 529 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 2: well being of the telling some depressing stories, be like 530 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: how is Bob feeling? You know, couldn't help but notice 531 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: the gruage. 532 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 8: Well when you drive when you drive past like. 533 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 9: A ranch and you see it's just their ship everywhere, 534 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 9: and you're like, man, how does a guy get all 535 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 9: that stuff by buying that stuff? 536 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: When that guy ye leaves this earth? 537 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 2: So Randall goes on to state sales and when he 538 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 2: was looking I was watching him. He's showing me in 539 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: the state sale and he was looking at things that 540 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: would because I have like bad organizational problems, Like I 541 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: like things real organized and you can buy like like 542 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: buckets buckets of assorted sockets. 543 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 5: Oh that was like when you like went and bought 544 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 5: like a bucket of assorted files. 545 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Randall is like an active a state that 546 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: he like him and his friends look at his state sales. 547 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 9: Didn't know this great tools, all kinds of tools. I mean, 548 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 9: I'm a Craigslist guy too. I'm an eBay guy to 549 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 9: some extent. But you remember I had that there was 550 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 9: this amazing one in Livingston recently, and the guy had 551 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 9: just an unbelievable collection of taxidermy, like multiple full body 552 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 9: bear mounts and buffalo them out like shoulder mounts. I 553 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 9: think I probably sent you a dozen things from that 554 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 9: that all got collectors caught win to that. Yeah, the 555 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 9: real collectors caught win to that. But yeah, this guy 556 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 9: in the Livings had an unbelievable texter. 557 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 7: Those things actually brought some money because after we had 558 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 7: our podcast with Hayes, he explained that those things really 559 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 7: didn't have much value. 560 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 9: Oh the I got priced out of the I mean 561 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 9: you got to I had, I think I had. Sydney 562 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 9: was all in on a couple of them up to 563 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 9: like five six hundred dollars. 564 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 7: What amounts did you want to have of someone else's 565 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 7: I don't know. 566 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 4: There was just they're like full body goat. There were 567 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 4: multiple full body goats. 568 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 9: There were like crazy rams at the right price. 569 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 570 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, somewhere to put it. 571 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 9: They're amazing antelope, like dozens and dozens of antelope in 572 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 9: this collection. 573 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, And how much were you willing to spend? 574 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 4: Like a couple hundred bucks? 575 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: Not not enough, but the well those states he was 576 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: showing me was rock bottom prices. 577 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, but there's still like nine days left on well. 578 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 579 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: And the way he worked is they got a buddy. 580 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: So he's got a buddy in a certain town and 581 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: a state sale comes up in that town. The buddy's like, hey, 582 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: let me know, and I'll go pick up. 583 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 4: What you need. 584 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: And so then you're kind of praying on these families, 585 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: you know, you're preying on these families at the time, 586 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: in a time of grief in need. 587 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: No, I don't. 588 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 8: I don't think you're praying on them at all. They 589 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 8: want to sell it, making life easy, Like yeah, I 590 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 8: mean honestly, like with my uncle. 591 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 6: Rancher was was passing away his truck doors were you know, 592 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 6: because you're always like driving around fixing stuff and then 593 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 6: you're you're ending up with things that you're not going 594 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 6: to leave out in the field, so you he would 595 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 6: throw them in his truck, all the big organizational slots 596 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 6: in the in the truck doors. 597 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, which dirt uses for his shampoo and toothpaste and 598 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: stuff like that. 599 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 7: Exactly. 600 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, well so medicine, I have corn dog sticks in there. 601 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: Those little Jeffs. 602 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 6: Jeffs were full to the top with like nuts and bolts, 603 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 6: and I mean more packed than like a hardware store shelf, 604 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 6: right full to the top with nuts and bolts and 605 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 6: sockets and stuff like that. And what we ended up 606 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 6: doing because his shop was kind of like that too. 607 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 6: So instead of doing like the estate sale route of 608 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 6: like who wants to bid on this coffee can this 609 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 6: Folger's coffee can from nineteen seventy full of assorted drivers 610 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 6: and stuff, we just called Pacific Steel the recycler right oh, 611 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 6: and had a dumpster delivered and then filled it full 612 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 6: of all that stuff is recycling instead of taking the 613 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 6: time to go through and sort it all. 614 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 4: Got it. 615 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 6: That's the way to do it. 616 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, or hopefully Doug Darren's listening. 617 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, well hopefully Ramble of it wasn't calling him ahead 618 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 6: of time and being like, yeah, you're getting old. I 619 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 6: bet all your friends are dead. 620 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 7: Huh. 621 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 6: That's got to be depressing anyway. 622 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 9: Craigslist, when you see somebody who's like they're like a 623 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 9: tradesman and they're they're getting out of the business. You 624 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 9: know you fought like if storage units full ladders and 625 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 9: stuff like that. 626 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, tell the story you told me that the total 627 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: he's depressing story you told me about an estate sale. 628 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 4: I think we could tell this one. 629 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 6: You had to wrench something out of some. 630 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 7: Hands. 631 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 9: No, this is actually be like I mean, it could 632 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 9: have happened. It could have happened anywhere. But yeah, my buddy, 633 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 9: uh his I believe his grandfather when he passed, they 634 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 9: had in the state sale at the house and they're 635 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 9: upstairs and they they hear a gunshot in the basement 636 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 9: and a guy had gone to use the bathroom and 637 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 9: had a had a handgun in his belt went off 638 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 9: and uh killed him in like in the middle of 639 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 9: the estate sale. 640 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: Of a dark story, yeah, related to state sales. 641 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, trying to steal. 642 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 8: The No, no, no, he brought it with him. 643 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 4: Is there somebody it made. 644 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 9: This whole experience, like especially traumatic sale law. 645 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 6: That's like, well, if you die at in the state 646 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 6: sale during the estate sale, you become part of this 647 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 6: estate sale. 648 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 4: Can I know? 649 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: I wanted him to tell that. Yeah, it's just really 650 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: kind of ruined the show. But as I thought it 651 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: was going to be, I had him tell it because 652 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: I made the same mistake I made when he started 653 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: telling it. I thought it was going to be someone 654 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: fiddling with a gun for sale at. 655 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: The estate sale. 656 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: And then he gets done with the story and I 657 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: realized there's nothing to do with the state sales, and 658 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: here he is telling it the damn podcast. 659 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, who asked him to do that? 660 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 9: I mean, I will say, like estate sales, if you 661 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 9: want to find a bunch of old like reloading presses 662 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 9: and stuff like that, Like I missed the goal old 663 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 9: ages of just stocking up on on brass and all 664 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 9: these components, and you know, reloading handloading has gotten not 665 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 9: more expensive, so there's a lot of guys with just 666 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 9: closets full of stuff. 667 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's basically planning on your own estate sale down 668 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 6: the line. 669 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 4: That's one way to look at it. Yeah, gotta stock. 670 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, all you kids that are fifteen and twenty five 671 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 7: years old right now, make a note that in twenty 672 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 7: seventy two ish you're gonna want to check call up 673 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 7: Randall's wife to see how Randall's. 674 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 8: Is twenty seventy two that I'm kidding, Marry, I'm not going. 675 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 7: To get that far. 676 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 3: I didn't want. 677 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 7: I didn't want to say you're going to die young. 678 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 4: That would make me twenty seventy two. That'd make me 679 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 4: like eighty something. Right. 680 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: Someone asked me what I'm holding my hand? 681 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 682 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 3: What is good? 683 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 4: Lord? 684 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 3: What is that? What is that? 685 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 4: Steam? 686 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: The fhf Eedy packs are out, all American made backpack 687 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: made out of uh they call it Challenge sailcloth waterproof. 688 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: I've been Paul's been making these, and I've been getting 689 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: to wear all the different ones he's come out with. 690 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: He's got all the kinds of inserts for him. 691 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 4: They're sweet. 692 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 6: What what's your big finding on the finished product? 693 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 4: Here? 694 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 6: Love it? 695 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: No, this is my like, this is my travel bag. 696 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 2: This is this is literally my EEDC bags. I keep 697 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: my laptop and everything in here. I got it all 698 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: figured out chords. I keep my cords here. 699 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 4: Oh that's a good spot. 700 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 2: Keep my spectacles and my shades in this side pouch. 701 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 2: Do you really need to know all this? 702 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 5: Yeah? 703 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 4: Here, I keep durable up here. I keep pens and whatnot. 704 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: That's where I keep that. 705 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 3: Got it. 706 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 2: He's got an insert so you can put like you 707 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 2: can put your pistols and whatnot in there. I keep 708 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: my laptop in here. Well, it's actually right here right now. 709 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: And I got one of these doc bags. 710 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 6: When it's super full of stuff? Is it comfortable to 711 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 6: like hustle through the airport with? 712 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I love it, I would say. 713 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: And it's like the kind of thing that you can 714 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 2: kick like I just cram it under my seat in 715 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: front of me on the airplane. You don't have to 716 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: worry about No, it's aerogonomic. It's a sweet package. What's 717 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: not ergo like therefore economic. 718 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 9: It's got a molly panel in the back so you 719 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 9: can add another little pouches. 720 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: And put pouches on there now and then. But in 721 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 2: the end I went for just a total streamline thing 722 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: because you can just kind of move around like a 723 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: grease high speed. Yeah, it's just like you feel like 724 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: a grease hog wearing this thing. 725 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 9: We've been traveling a lot and you haven't. You haven't 726 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 9: had to look for things. You haven't been losing things 727 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 9: in our travel. 728 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: No, because I got my system totally dialed in and 729 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: and like I said, man, it's hard to find it completely. Uh, 730 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 2: like I said, us made. 731 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 4: I love it. 732 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 5: The challenge sale material is that that's like actual. 733 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: You can't mess it up. Sl like, No, it's just 734 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: a thing they call it's a thing they call it, 735 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 2: but you can't mess it up. You can't mess it up. 736 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: At least I haven't been able to. 737 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 6: I mean you probably could sail with it, Yes, right, 738 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 6: sail through. 739 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 5: And that's available at the FHL. 740 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: No, there's sweet backpackers and I'm kind of like a 741 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: little finicky about backpacks. What one of the areas where 742 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 2: I get a little finicky about stuff one of the areas. 743 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 2: There's a handful of areas that I'm very Phinny Duffel bags, 744 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: backpacks that I'm like, I'm like, uh, I have big 745 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 2: opinions about those things. 746 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 6: You know, it's very rarely where I'm like, you know, 747 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 6: Steve would have no opinion. 748 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: On There's certain I was telling Randall though there's certain 749 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 2: things where I had to walk away, Like I have 750 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 2: I vowed to I will not. I no longer will 751 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 2: argue with anybody about anything to do with caliber. Don't 752 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 2: do it. Or for a while, I quit arguing about gear. 753 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 8: I just wanted you're dipping your toe back in. 754 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, he found a new group of crew members 755 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 7: that are more uh you know, their mindsets more akin 756 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 7: to his mindset about gear, and so it's the arguing 757 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 7: more favorable echo chamber. 758 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: Yanni once observed that, Yeah, observed one time that he's 759 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 2: like Steve always has a different headlamp, but somehow he 760 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 2: always has the best headlamp. It's just because he has it, 761 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: it was therefore being the best, all right, Jesse, what 762 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 2: the hell is a green Michelin star? 763 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 4: Man? 764 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 2: Uh, what's a Michelin star? 765 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about that first. 766 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: And what's a Michelin tire? 767 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? So so the Michelin company, who uh you know, 768 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 3: owned vast rubber plantations in Southeast Asia. Day, Yeah, and 769 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: they made tires, and so they started making a travel 770 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 3: guide many many years ago, and they would rate restaurants, 771 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 3: mostly in France, and to get one, two or three 772 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 3: Michelin Stars was very big deal, and. 773 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 2: It had to encourage people to drive around and. 774 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. Uh, and so you could get one, two 775 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 3: or three stars, and it was for the for a 776 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 3: very long time. It was based on you know, you 777 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 3: had to have very fine cutlery, service standards, glass where 778 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 3: consistency it had to be for three Michelin stars was unattainable. 779 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 3: You know. It's like, you know, very few restaurants in 780 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 3: the world had them one star in a incredible honor 781 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 3: right there. And a few years back they started kind 782 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 3: of changing it up, you know, like where a Michelin 783 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 3: Star could maybe just mean it was just an exemplary restaurant. 784 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 3: And then famously, I think two or three years ago, 785 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 3: they gave a Takaria in Mexico City a Michelin Star, 786 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 3: just a place on this st like, no no servers, 787 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 3: no nothing, it was just, uh, you know, just these 788 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 3: very simple tacos and they got a Michelin Star and 789 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 3: that kind of shifted that whole kind of narrative as 790 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 3: far as what what it meant to. 791 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 7: Get probably a little bit of a rebranding for the 792 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 7: Michelin brand them, Yeah. 793 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 2: Just to move away from white tablecloths and French French 794 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 2: high cuisine. 795 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean in a way, it was just like 796 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 3: a little confusing though, because you still have restaurants shooting 797 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 3: for three stars, but I think they still save the 798 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: three stars for that white tablecloth experience. Uh. And then 799 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago they came out with the 800 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 3: Green Star, which is what we got, which is a 801 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 3: sustainability star, and it's all about sourcing, direct purchasing, ethical processes, 802 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 3: even like employee programs, things like that. And so due 803 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 3: to our the way that we source almost everything, I 804 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 3: guess we were considered for it. We don't. You don't 805 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 3: get nominated, you don't put in for it or anything. 806 00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 3: And the inspector comes along. 807 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: You don't know who they are, right, No. 808 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 8: The food's still probably got to be pretty good though, right. 809 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like you could be making hot dogs off 810 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 2: road killed deer. It doesn't mean. 811 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, uh yeah, that is a component of it 812 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 3: they list as one of the tenets of it is. 813 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 3: And we also got a bib Gormond, which means you 814 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 3: make the guide. We didn't get a Michelin Star, but 815 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 3: we made the bib Gourmond, which means we're a recommended 816 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 3: Michelin restaurant and then also a Green Star, and at 817 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 3: last count, I think I think there was about thirty 818 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 3: two restaurants in the United States with Green stars. 819 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,959 Speaker 2: Wow, I've seen some headlines recently. I want to dive 820 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 2: into just a little bit about Michelin stars and what 821 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 2: it means for restaurants. I would think it's like all positive, right, 822 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,959 Speaker 2: but if they, like I keep seeing headlines, there should 823 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: be a word for when you just read a headlert 824 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 2: Like I used to say I was reading a thing, yeah, 825 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: but then now it's like, in all honesty, I didn't. 826 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 4: I don't want to follow up question about this. 827 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 2: I've seen like headlines alluding to the idea that it's 828 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 2: not all like that, that there's negatives to a Michelin 829 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 2: Star for a restaurant. 830 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 3: Sure, but how what well? I mean, in all honesty 831 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 3: and with regards to all the restaurants that they got 832 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 3: Michelin stars, and in Austin, I think let's say three 833 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 3: or four of them were barbecue places they got the star. 834 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 3: I you know, I feel that it's a wonderful thing 835 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 3: for them personally, I you know, having been in the 836 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 3: industry for so long and having kind of this maybe 837 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 3: antiquated idea of what a Michelin Star meant, really didn't 838 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 3: want one in a way that like, I never felt 839 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 3: like our restaurant was a in the classic sense, a 840 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 3: Michelin Star restaurant. And also you you will start to 841 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 3: have to deal with a good deal of scrutiny in 842 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 3: these days. That scrutiny is can be you know, just 843 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 3: it's pretty mean, and sometimes you wonder if it's worth it. 844 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 3: And you will see stories. 845 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 2: Because if you're on top, if you're on top, people 846 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: just try to knock you off the top. 847 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 3: Right it. I mean, the irony of stuff like that 848 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 3: is like, well, we don't think you deserve a Michelin Star. 849 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 3: And then you have to be like, well, we didn't 850 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 3: ask for it. Somebody else said that. Or you know, 851 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 3: if you get like a you know, top ten restaurants 852 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 3: or something like that, you'll be like, yeah, but you 853 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 3: don't deserve that. Well we also didn't make that call, 854 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 3: you know, somebody else said that. Now here. Now you're 855 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 3: kind of coming at us. I mean, maybe I'm too 856 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 3: sensitive to be a restaurant owner. Maybe maybe it's probably 857 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 3: not even the right word for it. There is a 858 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 3: good deal of scrutiny. 859 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 6: There's probably some turnover that that, like employee turnover that 860 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 6: could come with it too, because it's like, oh, oh 861 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 6: my gosh, I just got a Michigan Star at the 862 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 6: restaurant that I work with, Michigan Star, Michigan Star. 863 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 4: It's a very different system. 864 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 6: That's our system coming forward, that we should do that 865 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 6: for every time we're on the road. 866 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,959 Speaker 2: Michelan mis Star. 867 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 8: It's like a Michigan Hello, one and a half. 868 00:42:59,040 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 2: You get two of them. 869 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 6: But right like you could have some employees be like, oh, 870 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 6: holy ship, this is a great thing for the resume. 871 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe hop around a little bit more, just you know, yeah, 872 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 3: that's that's you know, kind of punch punch that card 873 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 3: a little bit. You know, Oh I worked at a 874 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 3: Michelin Star restaurant. Sure definitely could happen. I think that, 875 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 3: you know, in our case, this Green Star, and when 876 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 3: I knew that we were in the contender for that, 877 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 3: from the questions that they started to ask me like 878 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 3: we're getting these emails and I was like, talk about 879 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 3: your sourcing pro practices Michelin. Yeah, then I was very 880 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 3: very happy because I think that if there were if 881 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 3: I had to pick one of those two things. I 882 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 3: would absolutely take the Green Star because that is the 883 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 3: goal that we've worked to since day one. It was 884 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 3: just like having really equitable, fair good food purchase from 885 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 3: our neighbors, like high quality local stuff and just really 886 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 3: sticking to those guns, you know, wine, beer, everything. Uh 887 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 3: So the Michelin the Green Star was really the one 888 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 3: that I thought was like, yeah, that's actually that is 889 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 3: that is a recognition that we will definitely take. 890 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 2: What happens when someone I don't want to harp on 891 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 2: the negative, but why do you hear stories of people 892 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 2: are the stories of people turning them in? 893 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm Marco Pierre White, very famous. 894 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 2: Chef, not the Green Star. 895 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 3: Not the Green Star. Yeah, sometimes they'll get you know mad. 896 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 3: This is probably the old days, you know, back in France. 897 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 2: So he was like a white tablecloth guy. 898 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 3: Certainly he famously made Gordon Ramsey cry, whoa Yeah he was, 899 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,439 Speaker 3: but what about not being a good cook? Marco Pierre 900 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 3: White is like the well. 901 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 8: That's sort of I mean, what goes around comes around, right, Yeah. 902 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 3: Gordon Ramsey was very young at the time. Yeah, this 903 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 3: kind of speaks to this whole thing, and like these 904 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 3: guys are the ones that are working one hundred and 905 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 3: twenty hours a week, just like excellence. Just the screaming, 906 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 3: the throwing of the bands, just the kind of nightmarish 907 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 3: old kitchen situation that we think of it. And then 908 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 3: you know, if they go from like three stars to 909 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 3: two stars, then maybe they just take those two stars 910 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 3: and throw them back at Michelin something. I'm making that 911 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 3: story up, but you know it would be it would 912 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 3: be a spiked kind of deal. And stars were I mean, 913 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 3: in some circles probably still are highly highly sought after, 914 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 3: and it's like, I mean a live Goals. You know, 915 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 3: they want one star, two stars, three stars, you know, 916 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 3: and but I you know, we're not really playing that game. 917 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 918 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 3: Me. 919 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 2: How I became aware of it is my wife and 920 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 2: I were eating dinner with Jesse in die Douay and 921 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 2: I said, well, how's business been, and he said it's 922 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 2: been great because of the green Michelin star. 923 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 3: Oh definitely. We saw a huge influx of people from that, 924 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 3: so people cared about it. Yeah. Yeah, well Austin our Texas, 925 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 3: you have to submit to Michelin to be inspected, and 926 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 3: you have to give them a whole bunch of money, 927 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 3: like millions and millions of dollars to come in and 928 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 3: do the inspections. And once they do that, they come 929 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 3: in and they inspected Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, and 930 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 3: then from there they're gonna start making for the first 931 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 3: time ever because no, no, but no restaurant in Texas 932 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 3: ever had a star. And they came in and the 933 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 3: guide came to Texas and so you'll have I think 934 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 3: it's you know, some sort of Texas uh hospitality or. 935 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, state tourism exactly exactly. 936 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like kind of yes, please come do this thing. 937 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 3: And so and then it brought in, Uh, they brought 938 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 3: in the inspectors, and then a bunch of restaurants in 939 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 3: Texas for granted stars, a couple two I think, just 940 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 3: two green stars in Texas and uh, and then a 941 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 3: bunch of stars for restaurants in San Antonio, Austin, Houston, 942 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 3: Dallas and UH. And it really boosted all of that. 943 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 3: I mean, it was huge in the restaurant business. It 944 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 3: was talking to town for a little while. 945 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 2: You know what you said to us when we were 946 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 2: eating dinner that I still don't fully understand. You mentioned 947 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 2: feeling weird or camera how you put it, feel self 948 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 2: conscious or. 949 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 4: Weird or whatever eating in your own restaurant. 950 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. 951 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 7: I like it. 952 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 3: I like that place a lot, and I mean it's 953 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 3: more I like the prices right too. But yeah, sometimes 954 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 3: you know, just sitting there and feel like I should 955 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:19,240 Speaker 3: be working. 956 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 2: But oh so that okay, that's what that's what it is. 957 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 3: I don't work. 958 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 4: Now, you look like you're slacking. 959 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hung up my night night shift spurs a 960 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 3: while back. 961 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 6: But you know, like when we when we went down 962 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 6: there and interviewed Teddy Nuggets, we all went and ate 963 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 6: with Jesse at uh died Doy and I do remember 964 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 6: Jesse was an awesome host, but he was like looking 965 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 6: around at everything. Mmm, as much as hanging out with 966 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 6: us at the table. It's a hard, hard thing to do. Yeah, 967 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 6: it is, would you because you said, like your employee 968 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 6: program ms are part of your your green Star and 969 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 6: your Jesse came up with employee challenges as part of 970 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 6: their employee programs because you know, like it's a high 971 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 6: stress environment. Yeah, and you were telling me about one 972 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 6: last night that was I thought fantastic. 973 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 3: Yeah I can guess which one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, 974 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,720 Speaker 3: every well, I try to do it every month. Sometimes 975 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 3: I can slack a little bit, but I we try 976 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 3: to give all of the back of the house employees, 977 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,919 Speaker 3: everybody in the kitchen, we give them something that could 978 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 3: be a gift card, it could be an oyster knife, 979 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,240 Speaker 3: it could be it's something, it could be a stake, 980 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 3: and from that they need to deliver back almost like 981 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 3: an essay about that, and we will It'll be very 982 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 3: clearly defined. Like the first one we ever did. We 983 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 3: made everybody go to a specific taco trailer in order 984 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 3: the tacos there, and then I wanted them to report 985 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,959 Speaker 3: back on how the onions and the cilantro were cut, 986 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 3: because it's very very important because they're cut with Michelin 987 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 3: Star precision, like beautiful, super consistent and just like in 988 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,280 Speaker 3: your havel. 989 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 2: Is there any cilantro in the kitchen? 990 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 5: I don't think so. 991 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't know. I don't know how to 992 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 2: cut the ship up. 993 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 3: The stuff is finally chopped with the knight. 994 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 10: But that was the stems and report back. 995 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 4: Back up, back up, back up. 996 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 2: Stems are no stems. 997 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 3: Stems all the way was cilantro. Absolutely stems. Okay, go yeah, 998 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 3: stems are good. 999 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 4: You can't you can't just start at one end and 1000 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 4: go to the other end. 1001 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 2: Kind of hand. 1002 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 3: We're really digressing, But I've been here before. The stems 1003 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 3: on cilantro can be used as an aromatic, like onion 1004 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 3: or garlic. You can you can cook those like like 1005 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 3: put those in the beginning, like with your carrots and 1006 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 3: stuff in the lad a little bit of cilantro, but 1007 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 3: a nice, beautiful cooked No. But also like when you're 1008 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 3: chopping cilantro, stems are fine. 1009 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 4: So you wanted a report on this. 1010 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was just that's an example. And then another 1011 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 3: would be the you know, we're we're facing a big 1012 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 3: shift in how oysters are gathered on the coast, and 1013 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 3: so you have farmed oysters, you have dredged oysters, and 1014 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 3: we're trying to support the farmed merriculture of oysters. 1015 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 4: I get a yearful about this from the oyster dredgers. 1016 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, buckle up. So uh 1017 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 3: but but we had one of the oyster farmers come 1018 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 3: in bring a bunch of oysters. We popped a bunch 1019 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 3: of sparkling wine for the staff, and everybody sat there 1020 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,320 Speaker 3: and ate oysters, and she gave a presentation on oysters. 1021 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 3: So we learned a little bit about oysters. So every 1022 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 3: time I'm just trying to pick a topic, we we 1023 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 3: really want them to connect with me. We're a very 1024 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 3: meat heavy restaurant. We really want them to connect with 1025 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 3: what that means. And so we had we took all 1026 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 3: the back of the house staff out to a farm 1027 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 3: and everybody killed a chicken and we you know, funneled 1028 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 3: all the blood from the chicken into bread crumbs and 1029 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 3: herbs and we pan fried that. Everybody ate it. We 1030 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 3: stewed a bunch of chicken, and then everybody took their 1031 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 3: chicken home. And so then they had to kind of of, 1032 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 3: you know, report back, and I'll give them a list 1033 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 3: of questions, you know, like how was that? You know, 1034 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 3: some people were bawling, some people were just like, you know, 1035 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,800 Speaker 3: no problem, And then they have to kind of report 1036 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 3: back on that. 1037 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 2: You can get yourself in a mild, little bit of 1038 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 2: hot water with that routine. 1039 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 6: Oh I love it though, I mean it's yeah. 1040 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 2: So picture down the road. There's a headline and it 1041 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 2: says Texas restaurant man makes employees kill chicks. 1042 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, following it was the first sign of like being 1043 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 3: a serial killer. 1044 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and people see that Texas, and that's all they 1045 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 2: needed to hear. 1046 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 7: Why only back of the house. 1047 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,280 Speaker 8: The people that just read headlines have a problem with ye, I'd. 1048 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,879 Speaker 2: Be like, yeah, that's as far as I'd get. 1049 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 3: That's a good question, mostly because I feel that they 1050 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 3: they don't earn as much and they are also there. 1051 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 3: And I always have this two way street principle with 1052 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 3: with I mean everybody that works there, but like, you know, 1053 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 3: you work really hard for us. We educate you and 1054 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 3: give you as much knowledge as we possibly can, Like 1055 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 3: there's no secrets, you know, any recipe, any technique, anything 1056 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 3: that anybody at that restaurant knows should be always shared. 1057 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,439 Speaker 3: And so we try to add value to the back 1058 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 3: of the house experience through that through this program specifically. 1059 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 3: And so we have about fourteen people in the back 1060 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 3: of the house. They all participate and they always do. 1061 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 3: It's great. There's there's it's really fun. 1062 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 7: So is that not changing at all? Because you know, 1063 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 7: I did a few years in the restaurant industry long tongue. 1064 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 4: That's what I call long tongue Yanni and tuscaninis. 1065 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's crazy. When that light bulb goes off and 1066 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 7: you're like, wait a minute, how much did you make 1067 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 7: tonight and then you look at your paycheck and you're 1068 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 7: it could be half or a third of your you know, 1069 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 7: like a two week paycheck, and they cleared it in 1070 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 7: one night in cash tips. It's like very hard to 1071 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 7: stay in the back of the house, and I've always 1072 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 7: thought that, you know, someone would be working on and 1073 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 7: I think in some places they do even pool tips 1074 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,919 Speaker 7: with the back of that we do, right, you could, 1075 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 7: but even then it's still it's doesn't bring disparity. 1076 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,359 Speaker 3: There's a clear disparity. But that is again why we 1077 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 3: introduced that. Our back of the house managers every month 1078 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 3: they get a cookbook. So if you've worked there for 1079 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 3: three years, you've got forty cookbooks. Anyone you want pick 1080 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 3: out a cookbook, you get it. And then we do this. 1081 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 3: You know, there's pretty good health benefits, mental health benefits, 1082 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 3: things like that, just trying to add value to the 1083 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 3: back of the house experience because it's a hard job 1084 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 3: and it doesn't pay as well as in front of 1085 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 3: the house, and so just being able to add stuff 1086 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 3: like this is you know, a effective benefit that we 1087 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 3: can extend to them. 1088 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 6: So I'm sorry the chicken deal we didn't get to 1089 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,760 Speaker 6: get to this last night, but like you had people 1090 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 6: go home roast their chicken and then report back on that. 1091 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 3: That was the next month. So yeah, so after they 1092 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,439 Speaker 3: killed the chicken, you know, they reported on how that 1093 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 3: the whole thing went down with them, you know, and 1094 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 3: then reflecting on that, you know, because we deal with 1095 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,320 Speaker 3: lots and lots of dead animals coming through the restaurant, 1096 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 3: you know, and you got to see, well fourteen of 1097 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 3: them die, you got to do one yourself. You know. 1098 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 3: Hopefully that sticks, you know, it helps with wasists and 1099 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 3: things like that. You're not going to be like, yeah, 1100 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,439 Speaker 3: whatever this quail I dropped or dropped it. Of course 1101 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 3: it's going to trash, but but you know, like just 1102 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 3: have that well it wouldn't go on. Just respect that 1103 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 3: that that we're really trying to instill on them. And 1104 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 3: then the next month, yes, they roast the chicken. And 1105 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 3: then since there's you know, a million different ways, always said, 1106 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,879 Speaker 3: just roasted however you want, and report back on how 1107 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 3: you roast it. So we get into kind of technique 1108 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 3: and everybody is to compare notes on that and just 1109 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 3: make it kind of a fun interactive thing where everybody's 1110 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 3: just exchanging information and it's all done through a chat, 1111 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 3: so it's like you're submitting a written essay. 1112 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 4: Well, I got it. 1113 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 2: You know what, This won't matter to anyone but me. 1114 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 2: But you're combining to You're probably talking about chickens, killing 1115 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 2: chickens and collecting the blood and all that. That's colliding 1116 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 2: with a different thing that's in my head right now, 1117 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 2: which is I'm reading a new book about. 1118 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 6: I think we can all agree that's never happened to me. 1119 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 7: A bit. 1120 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 2: I'm reading a book about the Battle of Manila. The 1121 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 2: Oxford University Press just put out a book about the 1122 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,280 Speaker 2: Battle of Manila in the Philippines. 1123 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:32,280 Speaker 3: World War two. Okay, MacArthur, Yeah, okay, I don't. 1124 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:32,879 Speaker 4: Want to give the end away. 1125 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 3: Did he return? 1126 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, he returned. 1127 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 2: But my god, man, like the Japanese knew they couldn't win, 1128 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,760 Speaker 2: and I'm getting the chickens in a minute. The Japanese 1129 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 2: knew they couldn't win. They called one hundred thousand civilians 1130 00:55:52,200 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 2: in Manila just as like a departing gift. Anyhow, years 1131 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,280 Speaker 2: ago I was in the Philippines and went to cock fights, 1132 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 2: which is probably of the days I've spent in my life, 1133 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 2: one of the most influential days I've ever had in 1134 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 2: my life was being at the cock fights. 1135 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 4: You know, they lash. 1136 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 2: The blades on those chickens. It's hard to follow the 1137 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 2: action because the chickens fight fast. It is great, But 1138 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 2: the thing that struck me is they got a big 1139 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 2: kettle of boiling water and they got a big funnel 1140 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,800 Speaker 2: all these cocks. I'm sure this has not happened in 1141 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,319 Speaker 2: a lot of more affluent places. This is down way 1142 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 2: in the south of the Philippines, just north of Mindon now. 1143 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 2: But they when the cock fights go on, as soon 1144 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 2: as your cock gets killed, you go and it's like 1145 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 2: a little assembly line. They drained the blood into the funnel. 1146 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 2: It's collected in the bucket. They got the boiling water. 1147 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,879 Speaker 2: You plunge your deal, pluck your rooster, and everybody that's 1148 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:05,320 Speaker 2: leaving is leaving with plucked with roosters. And I imagine 1149 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 2: a lot of those don't A lot of those fighting 1150 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 2: cocks don't wind up in a cook bit pot. Why 1151 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 2: not because people just aren't gonna people don't want roosters. 1152 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 4: Probably, I don't know. 1153 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 3: The bowls after bull fights. 1154 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 7: If they're gonna go through that, And that's as if 1155 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 7: that if it's that much of a process. They're not 1156 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 7: being forced to pluck their birds, are. 1157 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 3: They They have to be eating them? No, no, no, 1158 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 3: I know, but you're saying they're not getting eating. 1159 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,479 Speaker 2: I bet you I'm not. Like I wanted to get into. 1160 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 2: I wanted to get into going to more cock fights. 1161 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 2: I used to use I used to hang out with 1162 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 2: this Dominican dude and and he would go back to 1163 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 2: Dominican Republic just to go to cock fights. And I 1164 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 2: was going to go, but my wife was pregnant. She 1165 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 2: thought it was inexcusable that I was going to cock fights. 1166 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 2: Well anyway, I didn't go. I've only been to one 1167 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 2: cock fight. But what I'm saying. 1168 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 5: Is trend cock fights and roller pigeon derbys there. 1169 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 2: You can't do them here. But Bricard, you know the 1170 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 2: writer Bricard Builders. Do you ever hear him? He's the guy, 1171 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 2: you know how like Noodland for flatheads became a huge thing, 1172 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 2: but Card Bilger like made that. He had a book 1173 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 2: Newlin for flatheads. It was about like Southern tradition. He 1174 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 2: wrote a piece, a big piece about cockfighting the back, 1175 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 2: like illicit underground cockfighting and the US. 1176 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 9: Anyhow have you read Clifford Gearts's the Balinese Cockfight. No, 1177 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 9: it's a classic anthropological study where he goes to he. 1178 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 4: Goes to Bali and he he it's. 1179 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 9: Just this deep analysis of how you can explain all 1180 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 9: of these like all of Balanese society by the way 1181 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 9: that the cockfight unfolds and how people Behaveoru there. 1182 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 4: Maybe I'll read that. 1183 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, I didn't know you were such an aficionado. 1184 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 7: I'm not. 1185 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 2: I went to I went to I spent a day 1186 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 2: at the cock fights. It was one of the most 1187 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 2: influential days of my life. And I'm just I just thought, 1188 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 2: I guessed, I don't know, maybe a big cockfighter can 1189 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 2: write it and tell me. I bet you you could 1190 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 2: go to a lot of cockfights and not see the 1191 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 2: cocks handled as a culinary item with quite the level 1192 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 2: of precision that one sees in the Philippines. 1193 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 3: I see. 1194 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 2: So I'm trying to get to they're even collecting the blood, 1195 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 2: which Jesse was just talking about. 1196 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 6: Jesse, you will get in trouble if you do a 1197 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 6: monthly challenge and it's cockfighting. I think, Yeah, since your 1198 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 6: restaurant mask the. 1199 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 2: Killing of a chicken. 1200 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's funny that you bring up cock fights because 1201 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 7: we were just hanging. When we hung with heffle Finger 1202 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 7: in Arizona, we talked about cockfighting and he was like 1203 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 7: the hypocrisy you know, of saying that you can't do 1204 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 7: that here, but then to go and buy a chicken 1205 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,120 Speaker 7: breast and to know how that chicken and the environment 1206 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 7: that it lived in and what it was subjected to 1207 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 7: versus the life that a cock fighting cock lives. Like 1208 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 7: if you're if you had pet chickens, you would always 1209 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 7: choose to have your chicken live the life of a 1210 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 7: fighting cock versus one that's grown in you know, American 1211 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 7: uh poultry breeding farm. 1212 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 2: I just had my I just had my first little 1213 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 2: bit of like teenage idealism spring up in one of 1214 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 2: my kids who's fourteen. 1215 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 3: Short life. 1216 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 2: He got no he got to watch and he got 1217 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 2: to watch and animal rights videos that are real that 1218 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 2: hack on industrial farming. And he declared he's only going 1219 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 2: to eat wild meat, no more fast food. And he 1220 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 2: was showing me a video where it's like a conveyor 1221 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 2: belt at a chicken producing facility. It's a conveyor belt 1222 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 2: full of eggs and chicks that goes into a grinder 1223 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 2: and it's just unwanted. It just like never ends, just 1224 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 2: a conveyor belt, little yellow chicks and eggs and just 1225 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 2: whatever into this grinder. 1226 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 3: Ten million chicken to day. 1227 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 2: And he's like, man, and this is just like the unwanted, 1228 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 2: right little chicken babies. And he said, he's like vowed 1229 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 2: up and down. He's never gonna ever eat anything but 1230 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 2: wild meat. And I'm like, welcome to Welcome to being 1231 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 2: a teenager. You'll find these things get harder and harder 1232 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,479 Speaker 2: to stay true too, the older you get. 1233 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 3: That's that was the whole point of that exercise, is 1234 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 3: like this happens ten million times every day. You just 1235 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 3: did it once and it was kind of oh wow, yeah, yeah, 1236 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 3: definitely worth a second look. 1237 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 2: Walk through, just so people can get the sense of 1238 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 2: how you guys run stuff at your restaurant. Pick a 1239 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 2: thing like how you guys do your own beef tallow 1240 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 2: or how you guys do what were you talking about 1241 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 2: the r day? What you guys do and you get 1242 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 2: a bunch of blueberries just something like that. 1243 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,480 Speaker 6: Oh and your fermentation, Like you guys have months long, 1244 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 6: months long prep processes. 1245 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,919 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, because I was I was with you one 1246 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,919 Speaker 2: time and you were all hopped up. We were down 1247 01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 2: at uh we're down in South Texas, and you were 1248 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 2: all worked up about buying every piece of citrus you 1249 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 2: could find in every pecan you could find, filling a vanful. 1250 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just put that that place that you and 1251 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 3: I went to closed, and so we have to go 1252 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 3: even farther south now, and so we just it wasn't 1253 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 3: that much farther we drove. We drove further down that 1254 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 3: highway and finally found a citrus sand and I rolled 1255 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 3: in there and we bought I think twelve cases of lemons. 1256 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 3: That's the first time we'd had lemons in months h 1257 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 3: and brought them back and everybody's joyous. 1258 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 2: So pick anything like what I'm trying to what I 1259 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 2: wanted to do is explain an example of because in 1260 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 2: die Do Way everything is from around here, so you're 1261 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 2: there's a season, there's seasonality. It's not as severe as 1262 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,640 Speaker 2: the north, but there's still seasonality in Texas. 1263 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1264 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So pick an example of something where what you 1265 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,919 Speaker 2: what you needed to do, because you can't just buy 1266 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 2: lemons whenever you want. 1267 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean lemons are always a really good 1268 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 3: exact ample. I think you know it's because like something 1269 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 3: as simple as ice tea also tea, you know, So 1270 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 3: we use the opon holly, which is the only plant 1271 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 3: that naturally contains caffeine in North America, and it grows 1272 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 3: as a like a invasive understory in East Texas. And 1273 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 3: so we get youpon holly leaves and make tea out 1274 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 3: of that. How do you get there's there's actually a 1275 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 3: couple of producers that make it. They are out there 1276 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 3: harvesting and then they do the whole drying process and 1277 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 3: then supply tea, which is really cool that they're making 1278 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 3: that product out of out of this this I mean, 1279 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 3: it's everywhere else. 1280 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 2: So your tea is from Texas. Yeah, you know, I 1281 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 2: could see a campaign like we put the tea back 1282 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 2: in Texas. 1283 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 3: It's pretty pretty solid. And so but most of the year, 1284 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 3: if you get iced tea and you say, hey, can 1285 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 3: I have a limon with that, We're like sorry, you know, 1286 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 3: and we have to give that. We don't say sorry. 1287 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 3: We we spent it in this like more educational direction 1288 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 3: of like, oh well, we we only source things from here. 1289 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 3: So sometimes in October, you know, barring a hard freeze 1290 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 3: the previous February, we will see some lemons and uh, 1291 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 3: you know, for a brief window of time if you 1292 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 3: wanted a limon with your ic T, we had it. 1293 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,919 Speaker 3: But we go through like we just recently had our 1294 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 3: our pork producer, our domestic pork producer went through a 1295 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 3: he he just ran out of product, you know, and 1296 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 3: he's like, listen, I need six to eight weeks to 1297 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:27,800 Speaker 3: get caught back up, and and we're not going to 1298 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 3: have any pork for a pork chop or bacon all 1299 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 3: this stuff. And so we uh, it was it was fun. 1300 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 3: We totally pivoted to Faral hogs and so we were 1301 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 3: just you know, having conversations with the processor that that 1302 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 3: handles all the hogs, you know, like what we're what 1303 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 3: we're looking for. Luckily it's at it's at peak time 1304 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 3: of year for Farrell hogs, like kind of they're when 1305 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 3: they're ripe. 1306 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 6: I can see it like cradle in the phone between 1307 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,920 Speaker 6: your neck and your ear as you're you're loading your 1308 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 6: fifty round mag on your ar. 1309 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 3: And so we had we had to pivot to that, 1310 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 3: which was you know, very I mean on brand for 1311 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 3: us at least and people because the pork chop is 1312 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 3: a very popular item. But they would come in and 1313 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 3: be like, oh my god, that well, we don't have 1314 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 3: it right now, but we do have these much smaller 1315 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 3: wild board chops prepared in exactly the same way and 1316 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 3: did a bunch of just different things. But we were 1317 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 3: having to process, you know, for every domestic hog, we're 1318 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 3: having to process three seventy pound farrel hog carcasses. But 1319 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 3: luckily they're all of you know that they're at their 1320 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 3: fattest right now because we had a really really killer 1321 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 3: acorn pecan drop. 1322 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:35,840 Speaker 2: How long does that run for when you're fat? 1323 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 3: It depends on weather, So I mean you get like 1324 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 3: your tree mass drop in October November. But we had 1325 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 3: the most atypical year and we have we still have 1326 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 3: pecans dropping right now in it's late February March, so 1327 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 3: we've had a really incredible year relatively dry, so all 1328 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 3: that stuff sits on the ground really well, and so 1329 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 3: the faral hogs have maintained a really high level of 1330 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 3: fat in the regions that have those trees prominence to 1331 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 3: like hill country and just to our southeast, and that's 1332 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 3: where we try to get our hogs from, and so 1333 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 3: they just look really good. So it's very very optimal 1334 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 3: timing for that lag to happen where we could just 1335 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 3: shift into the feral hogs because they were so fatty. 1336 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 3: But I mean that's kind of the level of thinking 1337 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 3: that we have to put in an organization. We have 1338 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 3: to call the processor and be like, listen, man, we're 1339 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 3: gonna need we're gonna need you to call out, you know, 1340 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 3: four or five six whole faral hogs weekly of optimal 1341 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 3: fat content and get them to us in this interim 1342 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 3: and made it work. 1343 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 2: There was a restaurant, do you remember that restaurant out 1344 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:48,040 Speaker 2: on those out in the San Juans San Juan Islands 1345 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 2: on the Willows. They want to be in a real 1346 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 2: controversial deal because they were acting like, you know, when 1347 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 2: I said the name of the restaurant, Phil. 1348 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 6: Wait restaurant, it's kind of what that that the menu 1349 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 6: is based off of, kind. 1350 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,040 Speaker 2: Of I don't want to get in over my waiters here, 1351 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 2: but I want to like someone in fact checked was it? 1352 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:10,160 Speaker 6: No, it was? It wasn't. 1353 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:15,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to like, yeah, Willows And there was 1354 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 2: like an expose a I don't want to like what's 1355 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 2: the call when you say something. 1356 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:20,360 Speaker 7: Back to me? 1357 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 5: Now? 1358 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:24,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to planters I don't want slander. 1359 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 2: Anyways, they had a thing where it was like everything's 1360 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,919 Speaker 2: from around here, but then there was in their minds 1361 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,120 Speaker 2: I should have brought it up. 1362 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 3: I mean, to be fair, there are some things you know, 1363 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 3: like there's some flour and sugar. 1364 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 2: Well no, no, no, I mean I was on. 1365 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 6: A lummy island Willows, and. 1366 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna do that. But I mean it was 1367 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 2: like a more like what the point I was gonna 1368 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,560 Speaker 2: make is that you because you couldn't get the pork 1369 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 2: chops you wanted from the guy you wanted from, you 1370 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,840 Speaker 2: pulled them from your menu as opposed to running down 1371 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 2: to Costco. 1372 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 3: Right, And a lot of places, unfortunately that say local 1373 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 3: or we use local and organic products whenever possible there 1374 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 3: aren't doing it. 1375 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's widespread, widespread, And do. 1376 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 6: Want to point out that it permanently closed in twenty 1377 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 6: twenty two, so you know you're. 1378 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a it was a little uh deceptive. 1379 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,840 Speaker 2: I went there and I could I smell the fish, 1380 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,679 Speaker 2: not just the fish was on my plate. I smelled 1381 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 2: the fish. I was like, no, man doesn't seem right. 1382 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 2: Doesn't seem right? 1383 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 4: It doesn't. 1384 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,280 Speaker 9: It doesn't add up when you say local whenever possible, 1385 01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,080 Speaker 9: you leave yourself a lot of. 1386 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 4: Uh, it wasn't possible, it's yeah, or. 1387 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 8: It depends on how hard you want to try it 1388 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 8: to get local. 1389 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 2: They would do this thing where they're like they serve 1390 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:53,360 Speaker 2: some c cucumbers and she gestures out the window being 1391 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 2: like they're right. She gestures out the window as though 1392 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 2: they were caught, they were picked right there, or it's 1393 01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 2: all that like our friends at this, our friends at that, 1394 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 2: our friends at this, And then you look the stuff 1395 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 2: up and you're like, sure, you're friends, you know, kind 1396 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,680 Speaker 2: of like and then like everything's from the garden, but 1397 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:13,599 Speaker 2: the guard's not that big. 1398 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's in. 1399 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:21,720 Speaker 2: It's in. It's in a temperate rainforest, right, and there's 1400 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 2: like limits to how much you can grow at that 1401 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 2: latitude certainly, and you just after a while I was like, 1402 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 2: come on, man, like running with it hard. 1403 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, but just like what you said about 1404 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 6: the I mean, think of the ability, the logistical ability 1405 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 6: that you need to have to forecast and work around 1406 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:47,720 Speaker 6: your primary hog protein supplier saying like six to eight 1407 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,720 Speaker 6: weeks we're out. I mean I think that's plenty for 1408 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,479 Speaker 6: people to be like, oh, this Green Michelin start things 1409 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,880 Speaker 6: pretty cool, but boy Cisco truck every Wednesday. 1410 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 3: Sure, right, I mean it's all it's enabled by the 1411 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 3: fact that we have such a good relationship with with 1412 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,719 Speaker 3: that producer, you know, and we've we've known him for 1413 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,800 Speaker 3: seventeen years and so when he called, he gave us 1414 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 3: for plenty of head start, and it enables us to 1415 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:13,920 Speaker 3: do it. But I think people expect that of us, 1416 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 3: you know, and we expect that of ourselves too. We're 1417 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 3: not gonna We're not going to ever purposely not serve 1418 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,120 Speaker 3: something that we don't know about. We've been misled before, 1419 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 3: we've been cheated. 1420 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 5: You know. 1421 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,559 Speaker 3: We've had farmers show up and swear up and down 1422 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 3: that they grew this thing, and then we find a 1423 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,679 Speaker 3: little grown in Mexico sticker on one of them. Really, 1424 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 3: what's happened? It's happened, and it's like what do we 1425 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,240 Speaker 3: do at that point? You know, it's like a very confusing, 1426 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,640 Speaker 3: it's a it's and you will have people just and 1427 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,599 Speaker 3: we had one guy in particular, like he misled us 1428 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,920 Speaker 3: for years about product, and it was it was devastating 1429 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 3: because I was like, man, that's our reputation right there, 1430 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 3: Like we stake everything on this, and I think he 1431 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 3: just he got into a lie and then never got 1432 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,680 Speaker 3: out of it. And then when we found out, we 1433 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 3: were just like kicked him to the curb, but like, 1434 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,200 Speaker 3: don't ever come back here. 1435 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 4: Man. 1436 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:01,759 Speaker 3: It was rough. 1437 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,439 Speaker 6: Well, so what about something like quail? 1438 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 7: Right? 1439 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 6: So, I mean you deal in like the exotics, which 1440 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,439 Speaker 6: would be a Neil guy and the hot ad that 1441 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,799 Speaker 6: that we mentioned, and then feral hogs. We've covered a bunch, 1442 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 6: like there's a legal way to get those two a 1443 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 6: resale market, but yeah, what about quail? How does how 1444 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 6: does that work? 1445 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? You have that you have like game birds or 1446 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,519 Speaker 3: game animals, and then you have wild game I think, 1447 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,599 Speaker 3: and there's I think there's two distinct categories. And we're 1448 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,280 Speaker 3: also very upfront about that. You know, duck. You know 1449 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,680 Speaker 3: there's some restaurant in New York City that's just like, 1450 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 3: you know, advertising that they're selling wild duck. I'm like, 1451 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 3: you want to probably tap the brake saw that first off, 1452 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,920 Speaker 3: you're not, you know, it's just but you also don't 1453 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,639 Speaker 3: even know enough about the topic to know that that's 1454 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 3: been illegal for more than a century. And but you know, 1455 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,600 Speaker 3: it just sounds good to them and but we we 1456 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 3: serve farm raised duck, you know, we serve farm raise quail. 1457 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,120 Speaker 3: And but then beyond that, if we're presented with an 1458 01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,479 Speaker 3: opportunity to source like true wild game, we absolutely will. 1459 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,880 Speaker 3: And we're in Texas where it's it's pretty easy. It's 1460 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,760 Speaker 3: facilitated by h t DA, the Department of Agriculture, and 1461 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,720 Speaker 3: we we can we can get nil ghui. And this 1462 01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,639 Speaker 3: is why we we tend towards noil guy especially. It's 1463 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,720 Speaker 3: because they don't like corn and they're they're field harvested 1464 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 3: in the wild by broken arrow ranch by shooters and helicopters. 1465 01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 3: We tend towards nol guy because of that, because it 1466 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,800 Speaker 3: is such a pure ingredient. It's an invasive We'll get 1467 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,920 Speaker 3: some access here and there, and then feral hog has 1468 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 3: to be trapped live and then brought to the processor 1469 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 3: and killed with an anti mortem inspection and then post 1470 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 3: mortem inspection, and then we can get them like that. 1471 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 3: We can't go out and shoot them. And if you 1472 01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 3: have them in your back of your truck, we can't 1473 01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:56,760 Speaker 3: take those either. 1474 01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,680 Speaker 2: People show a. 1475 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,360 Speaker 3: Couple of times, but a lot of a lot. Hey, 1476 01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 3: we got all that you could ever use, and like 1477 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:07,760 Speaker 3: it's not how it works really, there's very strict UH 1478 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:12,560 Speaker 3: protocols behind that. And then lately we've been sourcing a 1479 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,759 Speaker 3: lot of odd ad and odd ads on the menu. 1480 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,960 Speaker 3: Those are maybe coming from high fence places, maybe coming 1481 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 3: from low fence places, or catching them in big pen traps. 1482 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 3: But we're putting add ad on there as part of 1483 01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:30,759 Speaker 3: a like a wider campaign to just to educate people 1484 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,200 Speaker 3: on the pure edibility of odd ad. 1485 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, can you go on to that more because 1486 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 5: I'm doing the odd ad hunt in Texas with my 1487 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,439 Speaker 5: boyfriend and Corey actually in April. 1488 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean to me, odd ad are kind of 1489 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:47,719 Speaker 3: these They're they're like hogs in a lot of ways 1490 01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,559 Speaker 3: and that, but they just inhabit I mean in an 1491 01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 3: impact and then they inhabit different regions, you know, the 1492 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,920 Speaker 3: far Hill country all the way out to West Texas 1493 01:13:55,920 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 3: where there's a lot of them and they're widely not eaten, 1494 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,120 Speaker 3: and so by we have them on our menu. 1495 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 7: You know when you say widely, let's just like set 1496 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:07,760 Speaker 7: the stage here. 1497 01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 2: I found it to be a rough I ate one 1498 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 2: down to the bone. I found it to be a 1499 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 2: pretty rough meat. 1500 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 5: Did you did you? How is that prepared. 1501 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 2: We made I made? 1502 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:16,720 Speaker 5: You made me? 1503 01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 6: You made a tough or rough is like it wasn't palatable? 1504 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 3: May I preface? No? No? Did you cook it in 1505 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:26,439 Speaker 3: a dry heat method? 1506 01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 5: Like? 1507 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 3: Did you grill it? Or our our smoke it? 1508 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 4: I made jerky with it. 1509 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:33,560 Speaker 2: We made barbe cool with it. 1510 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:34,040 Speaker 3: Okay. 1511 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 2: We cooked its lungs, not as lungs. We cooked its 1512 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 2: kidney's heart, liver, and then I did various like roasts 1513 01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,720 Speaker 2: and whatnot. Okay, I never it just wasn't you know, 1514 01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,920 Speaker 2: it wasn't it to me? Wasn't I wasn't like, oh 1515 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:50,719 Speaker 2: my god, I can't wait to get another audit? 1516 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 3: Was it a flavor or a texture? 1517 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 4: Flavor? Strongly? 1518 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it just wasn't my favorite. But everything 1519 01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:57,719 Speaker 2: can't be your favorite. 1520 01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,240 Speaker 3: No, I love it, But also I I have to 1521 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 3: be really clear, and I've never had an ad Dad 1522 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:06,559 Speaker 3: from West Texas. We've only eaten Hill country aud. 1523 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:10,320 Speaker 2: Ad mine was from very West. Yeah, like maybe, yeah, 1524 01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,640 Speaker 2: just like it was bad. It's just I kind of 1525 01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,759 Speaker 2: got a lot of times you eat something like take haveveleena, 1526 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:22,559 Speaker 2: for instance, if you just took like if you're cooking 1527 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,559 Speaker 2: to have a leena, you're gonna be doing steps and processes, right. 1528 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,320 Speaker 2: You can't just you don't. No one just takes like 1529 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,599 Speaker 2: a have a Lena steak and throws in a pan. 1530 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 4: Right. 1531 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,880 Speaker 2: It's like a thing that requires you to bring a 1532 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,320 Speaker 2: certain level of expertise to it. I found Awdad to 1533 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,879 Speaker 2: be the kind of thing where you need to bring 1534 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 2: a level of expertise to get something that you would 1535 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 2: be comfortable just serving to friends. 1536 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,000 Speaker 4: That come over for dinner. Sure it wasn't like fail safe. 1537 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that a lot of people go wrong 1538 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,479 Speaker 3: and they might treat addad like venison, and then that 1539 01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,200 Speaker 3: same person might treat venison like beef, and so you're 1540 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 3: you're kind of failing and that it's it's a particularly 1541 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,960 Speaker 3: it's I mean, it's a metaphorically tough meat. I mean 1542 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:08,200 Speaker 3: it's tough animal. You know they chewy, yes, yeah, and uh, 1543 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 3: I mean when you're cutting an add ad like you 1544 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,640 Speaker 3: can get tired. I found, you know, it's like the 1545 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,280 Speaker 3: meat is just like it's got a density to it. 1546 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,639 Speaker 3: Like you know, after I break down an aud aud, 1547 01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,479 Speaker 3: I feel like I've had more like forty percent more 1548 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,599 Speaker 3: resistance than I would if I'd just killed a dough 1549 01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:27,680 Speaker 3: like whitetail and the way that you approach cooking it. 1550 01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,599 Speaker 3: I mean it's very simple. I think grind and stew, 1551 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,640 Speaker 3: but you know, you have to incorporate, Like we're into it. 1552 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,800 Speaker 3: It has to be cooked for a very long time. 1553 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,000 Speaker 3: But I really like it. We grind it, we make meatballs, 1554 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 3: like good friend mentioned, make meatballs out of it, and 1555 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,920 Speaker 3: we can aggregate all animals that way too. We could 1556 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 3: get a you, we could get a ram, doesn't really matter. 1557 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,360 Speaker 3: All goes into the pile together. But more than anything, 1558 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,519 Speaker 3: we're just trying to, you know, illuminate the sheer fact 1559 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 3: that you can't he sure, yeah, and promote it. I 1560 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 3: probably the only restaurant in the hemisphere that's got all 1561 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 3: out on the menu. I don't know anybody else that 1562 01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,479 Speaker 3: even has access to them. And then when people say 1563 01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 3: where do you get them? 1564 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 5: I'm like, any part of that that you'd like, cut 1565 01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,799 Speaker 5: small and stir fry. 1566 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 3: The tender loins, and the loins tend to even be 1567 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,840 Speaker 3: a little on the dense side if you and backstraps 1568 01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:29,479 Speaker 3: have not a not a horizontal grain to them, they 1569 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,720 Speaker 3: have a slightly offset grain and with an odd dad 1570 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 3: you have to be particularly careful with that and that 1571 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,360 Speaker 3: you have to nail that, that ninety degree on that 1572 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,040 Speaker 3: on that slight offset, I'd say, and it's it's sitting 1573 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 3: at like thirty you know, degrees off. It's not just 1574 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,800 Speaker 3: straight down. And if you if you don't nail that, 1575 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,080 Speaker 3: then you still got this slight angle, this diagonal grain 1576 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 3: running through your slices. And if you get it super thin, 1577 01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:58,040 Speaker 3: it can be really good. I we uh cook then 1578 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,800 Speaker 3: odd Ad next to a white tail. One night, just 1579 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,080 Speaker 3: did steak freets. You know, it's like a Bordelai sauce. 1580 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,920 Speaker 3: And everybody liked the audid just as much as the 1581 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 3: white tail, but I had to slice it super thin. 1582 01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,960 Speaker 3: I I love them. I you know, we're in a 1583 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 3: way so lucky that we can. You know, like me 1584 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,080 Speaker 3: and my daughter hunt a lot, and we could. We 1585 01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 3: could kill access hogs and odd Ad only and these 1586 01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:26,799 Speaker 3: are all these high impact invasives and it feels pretty 1587 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 3: good to do something like that, and especially odd Ad, 1588 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,439 Speaker 3: it's like it's almost a goal. Now I'm going to 1589 01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 3: be an apologist for those as well. Try to get 1590 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,719 Speaker 3: more people on board with at least are equipping people 1591 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,280 Speaker 3: with better methodology to make it more palatable. 1592 01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, you turn. You turned the world down to hogs, 1593 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 2: and now you're gonna do uh, you're gonna help people 1594 01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 2: figure out how to do oddds. 1595 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm probably gonna call you and I'm trying to 1596 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:51,479 Speaker 5: figure out what to do with it. 1597 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:52,760 Speaker 3: Where are you hunting. 1598 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,160 Speaker 5: Way South bordering Chihuahua. 1599 01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, yeah, so that's yeah, West Texas. 1600 01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,600 Speaker 2: Ye yeah, yeah, you know I always put in I 1601 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,559 Speaker 2: always draw for the ie hundred mount in West Texas, 1602 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,879 Speaker 2: but I always draw, always put in in New Mexico, 1603 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:10,599 Speaker 2: but I haven't drawn in New Mexico. 1604 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you'll be out in the Davis Mountains probably coud. 1605 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:15,760 Speaker 2: You do like public like in New Mexico, you can 1606 01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 2: do like public land odd d hunts. 1607 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:17,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1608 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,920 Speaker 9: The grain, the differentiation in the grain in the in 1609 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 9: the backstraps as you're talking about, is that something that's 1610 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,559 Speaker 9: like characteristic to sheep in general, not deer too, deer. 1611 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 3: Too, Yeah, like if you have a larger deer loin 1612 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,320 Speaker 3: and I'm the ones the deer backstraps that I deal 1613 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,240 Speaker 3: with are way smaller than what you guys have with 1614 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,840 Speaker 3: elk or deer or even larger white tails. And so 1615 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,680 Speaker 3: if you like just take a really close look at it, 1616 01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,439 Speaker 3: and you'll see that it's just slightly offset. And then 1617 01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,840 Speaker 3: when you're slicing it out, you're gonna if you come 1618 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,519 Speaker 3: in and you kind to hit it at a very 1619 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,160 Speaker 3: slight angle, you're going to be getting that true ninety 1620 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:54,760 Speaker 3: degree on it. And that's where you get the most 1621 01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:55,920 Speaker 3: tenderness out of that slice. 1622 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,120 Speaker 2: Gotcha, No, I thought you were Yeah, okay, how do 1623 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,320 Speaker 2: these audi ads come to YEA, what form? 1624 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,799 Speaker 3: Uh? They're they're trapped in the same types of traps 1625 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,360 Speaker 3: that the faral hogs come in are trapped in. So 1626 01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:12,240 Speaker 3: you've got your like your cell phone style dropgate traps, 1627 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,680 Speaker 3: and so they'll just wait for them and drop the 1628 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 3: trap on them. And and we've been so consistent that 1629 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,680 Speaker 3: we've been able to get them because then our processor 1630 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,240 Speaker 3: is talking to trappers and then once that incentive like 1631 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,960 Speaker 3: stream is reached, they know, oh we need more odd 1632 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,479 Speaker 3: ad and so they start bringing us more. 1633 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,479 Speaker 2: But what I mean is how do they show up 1634 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 2: at your place? 1635 01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 3: In what form? Either trim or whole carcass depending what 1636 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:38,519 Speaker 3: our needs? 1637 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,000 Speaker 2: Are caught off behind the ears? 1638 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,759 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, the skin and gutted whole carcass. 1639 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:45,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1640 01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have a big old pile of them 1641 01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,559 Speaker 2: horns laying around now, no, no, no, got it. 1642 01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,080 Speaker 5: I got a question. So you were saying, like the 1643 01:20:54,120 --> 01:21:00,200 Speaker 5: odd ad like it needs like moisture water. So I 1644 01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:05,880 Speaker 5: defrosted some rib meat that I had sliced out from 1645 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 5: white from white tail, and I seared on a cast 1646 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:12,600 Speaker 5: I was just in a rush. I wasn't trying to 1647 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 5: prep a meal. I just want to eat some meat. 1648 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,960 Speaker 5: So I just like put some dry rub seasoning oil 1649 01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,439 Speaker 5: through in a cast iron pan just a couple of minutes. 1650 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,080 Speaker 4: I'm already reaching for. 1651 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,120 Speaker 2: For three years. 1652 01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 5: As in aside, I'm I don't always like soft textured meat. 1653 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:41,120 Speaker 5: I don't always want like a really soft backstrap, like 1654 01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,760 Speaker 5: I'm used to eating tendon, which sometimes can be like 1655 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,320 Speaker 5: melt in your mouth, right, but sometimes it's true ear 1656 01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:52,200 Speaker 5: So I'm like, I think the breath of meat textures 1657 01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,640 Speaker 5: and I'm comfortable with and happy to now on like 1658 01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,840 Speaker 5: that's I mean an Asian cuisine, right, It's just not 1659 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:02,719 Speaker 5: exactly the same. But but I felt like the meat 1660 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 5: was it was juicier and yeah, like there was a 1661 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:11,200 Speaker 5: little bit of chew, but it was juicier. Then I 1662 01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,320 Speaker 5: use some of the same rib me and I like, 1663 01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,200 Speaker 5: whatever did Chinese five spice dikon blah blah blah through 1664 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,479 Speaker 5: them the pressure cooker for twelve minutes. Now that meat 1665 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,760 Speaker 5: was so dry, but like kind of pull apart, and 1666 01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:27,360 Speaker 5: I really didn't like that. What happens it's collagen. 1667 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,720 Speaker 3: So belly is very specific to this, where you're going 1668 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:35,480 Speaker 3: to have these striations of lean meat, very dense lean meat, 1669 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:39,960 Speaker 3: a very thick and solid layer of collagen or silver skin, 1670 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,040 Speaker 3: and then let me typically layers of fat. And you 1671 01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,839 Speaker 3: might repeat that a couple of times. And so collagen 1672 01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,040 Speaker 3: isn't going to melt into gelatin until it hits about 1673 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:50,320 Speaker 3: one ninety over a period of time. Now pressure cooker 1674 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:55,479 Speaker 3: can achieve that, but if you just cook it really quick, 1675 01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,800 Speaker 3: then you're not going to hit that. I mean you 1676 01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,599 Speaker 3: might hit one ninety, but you're not going to hit 1677 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,560 Speaker 3: it for two or three hours that it's going to 1678 01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,240 Speaker 3: start to break down. I was, you know, like pork, 1679 01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,840 Speaker 3: and people sometimes are surprised, like pork is cooked through 1680 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:12,000 Speaker 3: at one temperature, but it shreds at a different way. 1681 01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,679 Speaker 3: It's cooked through at you know, one sixty one sixty five. 1682 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,559 Speaker 3: But when pork shoulder starts to fall apart. That's one 1683 01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 3: ninety five two hundred and so that's that collagen breaking 1684 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:22,960 Speaker 3: down and then fat and things like that. 1685 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,760 Speaker 5: So that is, but the meat itself feels drier like 1686 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:27,559 Speaker 5: I wanted it. 1687 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's possible too. I don't have a ton of 1688 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,240 Speaker 3: experience with pressure cookers, so I don't know really what 1689 01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,400 Speaker 3: happened there. If that had if you had braised that 1690 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,280 Speaker 3: maybe with some sort of liquid like it was in 1691 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:42,040 Speaker 3: a maybe a more moderate temperature, you might have had 1692 01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:47,519 Speaker 3: a more silken experience for me braizing meats like stew 1693 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,439 Speaker 3: meat or if you want to make a sugo or 1694 01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:54,439 Speaker 3: a ragu or Bologni's chili borgignon. No better meat than 1695 01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:54,960 Speaker 3: rib meat. 1696 01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:59,360 Speaker 5: Okay, but you're but you're doing that low and. 1697 01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 3: Slow on four five six hours. 1698 01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:03,800 Speaker 5: No pressure cooker stuff. 1699 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,519 Speaker 2: You know what dish years I've been making a fair 1700 01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,040 Speaker 2: bit when I'm having company over. 1701 01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:11,000 Speaker 4: Is that one. 1702 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,360 Speaker 3: That? Uh? 1703 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,719 Speaker 2: That that German style relied? 1704 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:17,040 Speaker 7: Oh? 1705 01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a like one of the most popular 1706 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,600 Speaker 3: because we did it on the show down there at 1707 01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,960 Speaker 3: the Teria and I rolled that whole whole bell. Yeah. 1708 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,840 Speaker 3: People love that. It's it and it's accessible and it's 1709 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 3: a new use for that cut that they just didn't 1710 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,280 Speaker 3: really consider before. And it's so easy to peel that 1711 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:34,960 Speaker 3: whole thing off. 1712 01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,360 Speaker 2: You gotta be get, I mean, you gotta be decent 1713 01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,040 Speaker 2: with a knife. So what Jesse does, like, if you're 1714 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,719 Speaker 2: sitting there at home, picture like picture, you gotta skinned 1715 01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 2: out do your carcass land there. A lot of guys 1716 01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,320 Speaker 2: are gonna remove the rib meat. You're just gonna kind 1717 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,240 Speaker 2: of go between the ribs and get all these strips 1718 01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 2: that look like a jerky strip. Not suitable for jerky, 1719 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:56,280 Speaker 2: but it's gonna look like a jerky strip. 1720 01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:57,760 Speaker 4: Picture that you. 1721 01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,320 Speaker 2: Came in and removed all the meat and one big 1722 01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,200 Speaker 2: sheet so that you got every rib you come to. 1723 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,880 Speaker 2: You gotta skin around, not skin around every rib you 1724 01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:10,320 Speaker 2: come to. You gotta flay around the rib up and over, 1725 01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,280 Speaker 2: up and over, and you wind up with like you 1726 01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:17,280 Speaker 2: basically remove that deer's side as a sheet. And then 1727 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:22,800 Speaker 2: Jesse lays mustard, yep, good s good seed mustard all 1728 01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:27,639 Speaker 2: over it. Yeah, pickle, hollowpenios, onion, onion. 1729 01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:29,559 Speaker 4: What else you're putting there? 1730 01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,040 Speaker 3: Is it mustard, bacon, onion, and then some sort of pickle. 1731 01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,840 Speaker 3: Traditional German would be just like a girkin or like 1732 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,320 Speaker 3: a corner shone style pickle until pickles even, and then 1733 01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:40,719 Speaker 3: you roll that up. 1734 01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,479 Speaker 2: Roll that up, tie it, and then braise it. 1735 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,960 Speaker 4: Them suckers are good, man, good good. 1736 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:47,880 Speaker 2: And I've been cooking the hell out of those when 1737 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,559 Speaker 2: I get you know, when I get a piece, Yeah, 1738 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:50,120 Speaker 2: that's good. 1739 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. I always take that off the deer. 1740 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,120 Speaker 3: You also don't have to go in and get that 1741 01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:59,160 Speaker 3: meat between the ribs. A lot of times I'll just 1742 01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,200 Speaker 3: take that whole sheet off and then later I'll come 1743 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,960 Speaker 3: in and peel that are cut that meat out the 1744 01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:06,160 Speaker 3: intercostal or the fingers. 1745 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it depends on what time of year it is, 1746 01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:12,120 Speaker 2: because like if if there's your time of. 1747 01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:13,400 Speaker 6: Year where you can see through. 1748 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you kill a buck that's been if 1749 01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,120 Speaker 2: you kill a buck that's been gone through the rut, 1750 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,080 Speaker 2: I mean you got to get in there to wind 1751 01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,360 Speaker 2: up with a whole sheet because they lose so much weight. 1752 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,880 Speaker 6: If you take take the height off, it basically turns 1753 01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 6: into jerky in twelve hours on its own. 1754 01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 7: On the boat. 1755 01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you leave a hang in the wind and 1756 01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,959 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's like it's like a glass 1757 01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,080 Speaker 2: you can kind of see through. But yeah, that that 1758 01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,960 Speaker 2: is a good dish. Uh, there's one I texted you 1759 01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,000 Speaker 2: about there because I like your Uh this is more of. 1760 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,519 Speaker 7: A co can I do? I want to have a 1761 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,360 Speaker 7: follow up question because I think oftentimes I look at 1762 01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,760 Speaker 7: that slab of meat and I'm like, man, it's all 1763 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:59,800 Speaker 7: covered up and foamy, purple bloodshot. You know, how do 1764 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:00,599 Speaker 7: you deal with that? 1765 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,599 Speaker 3: I mean, if you've lost part of it, then I don't. 1766 01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,879 Speaker 3: I don't mess with bloodshot stuff. I cut it out. 1767 01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,040 Speaker 7: Well, but it's not it's not like it's actually where 1768 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,840 Speaker 7: the impact was or even where like the little you know, 1769 01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:16,040 Speaker 7: but it's just like the the blood and the purple 1770 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,120 Speaker 7: stuff is spread. Like at some point do you do 1771 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:19,799 Speaker 7: some cleaning. 1772 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,960 Speaker 3: I trim what I can, But if you've lost one 1773 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,800 Speaker 3: of your sides or flanks, what everyone caught, it is 1774 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:26,280 Speaker 3: what it is. 1775 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do it. I do that cut when I 1776 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:35,400 Speaker 2: see a piece that is suitable I've made. I did 1777 01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,519 Speaker 2: it with I took pulled a big sheet off of 1778 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,360 Speaker 2: a moose. There's too much, Yeah, it's gonna be Yeah, 1779 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,280 Speaker 2: it's too much. It's like a Yeah, there's a lot 1780 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,479 Speaker 2: of there's a lot going on between the layers of 1781 01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,360 Speaker 2: all the good stuff in the middle. It just winds 1782 01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,360 Speaker 2: up being like, yeah, I could see that it's too 1783 01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:52,120 Speaker 2: much of a good thing. 1784 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:53,879 Speaker 3: What was the other dish you're talking. 1785 01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,280 Speaker 2: About, Well, I texted you so when you me and 1786 01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,439 Speaker 2: Katie ate dinner. One of my favorite thing you guys 1787 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:05,519 Speaker 2: make is that that brind pork chop man things good, dude. 1788 01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:12,640 Speaker 2: So I had some. I had some wild hog. I 1789 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,479 Speaker 2: had a wild hog backstrap that had a nice fat 1790 01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:18,240 Speaker 2: layer on them, and I asked you about your brine. 1791 01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,080 Speaker 2: It was a very simple. Brian, I feel like you 1792 01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:22,599 Speaker 2: put some things in there that are dumb. 1793 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:25,120 Speaker 3: The star Annis. 1794 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I don't think it matters. 1795 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,080 Speaker 3: I think it absolutely matters. 1796 01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 4: You're the chef. You're the chef. 1797 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,880 Speaker 3: So I made I made smethered pork chops the other night, 1798 01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,559 Speaker 3: and it's the key to that is that you, Brian 1799 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,320 Speaker 3: does And if you have like a leaner parallel hog, 1800 01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,200 Speaker 3: this is great. You cut those pork chops, but you 1801 01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,120 Speaker 3: Brian them with that star anis dust them and flour 1802 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,519 Speaker 3: a ton of onions and then some stock and then 1803 01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,960 Speaker 3: cook that down and just makes this nice oniony gravy. 1804 01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:51,720 Speaker 3: But then when you go in and you. 1805 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:53,640 Speaker 2: Keep back up, I got I got too confused. 1806 01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,160 Speaker 3: Just little thin slices of backstrap or pork chops, but 1807 01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:58,479 Speaker 3: I wanted. 1808 01:28:58,320 --> 01:28:59,720 Speaker 2: I haven't told you what I did with it, so 1809 01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:00,600 Speaker 2: you can't correct me. 1810 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 3: Well, I'm just I'm a little worked up about the 1811 01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:06,639 Speaker 3: star anis right now. I want to give it. Explain 1812 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,320 Speaker 3: that you from the Brian. 1813 01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:13,000 Speaker 2: Yes, you know what I did, Okay, because like, if 1814 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,680 Speaker 2: I wanted to taste like that, I'd put that on 1815 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,479 Speaker 2: the meat rather than trusting that my Brian is going 1816 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,840 Speaker 2: to like. You know, you gotta admit, dude, you have 1817 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,719 Speaker 2: to admit sometimes people are putting things in Brian because 1818 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:24,919 Speaker 2: it looks cool in your fridge. 1819 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:31,479 Speaker 3: Okay, you don't agree that that star is absolutely if 1820 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,120 Speaker 3: you like the pork chop, it I do it. The 1821 01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,559 Speaker 3: star is a key component to that. 1822 01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,680 Speaker 2: So you're telling me. You're telling me that if I 1823 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:45,559 Speaker 2: PEPSI challenged you and I do one of your pork chops. 1824 01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,840 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, let's do it. 1825 01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:51,840 Speaker 8: I'll run down to Rose hours right now. 1826 01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 4: I would like to see it twenty four hours. 1827 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:55,840 Speaker 7: I was thinking you and I can fly down and 1828 01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,719 Speaker 7: die and we could have to make five. 1829 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make five. You have your team made me five, 1830 01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:07,040 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna have one of them be with star 1831 01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,400 Speaker 2: on ease. I got it, and I'm gonna have you 1832 01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,040 Speaker 2: eat it, and you tell me what one had in 1833 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:12,280 Speaker 2: the brine. 1834 01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,360 Speaker 3: In the bag? Got it? Yeah, got it? It was 1835 01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:17,600 Speaker 3: pretty good. 1836 01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,200 Speaker 2: Anyways, what I did what I want to hear your opinion, 1837 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,040 Speaker 2: you know better me. But what I did is I 1838 01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,559 Speaker 2: soaked my it was you know, a wild hog backstrap. 1839 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,040 Speaker 2: It's a giant thing. I just did the whole damn 1840 01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,800 Speaker 2: thing in the brine, Okay, then grilled and sliced it. Yea, 1841 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,360 Speaker 2: some of the bitch that was good? Man, Tell me 1842 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:37,080 Speaker 2: what I should have done. 1843 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:43,439 Speaker 3: It's a key, you think. 1844 01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,200 Speaker 2: So you don't think it's just metal masturbation. 1845 01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,439 Speaker 3: No, not at all. I always I always compare like 1846 01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,640 Speaker 3: a like a a farreal hog. Especially it's got a 1847 01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:53,840 Speaker 3: bit of that overt, strong flavor to it. I won't 1848 01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:57,680 Speaker 3: use the g word as like a rough piece of 1849 01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:01,720 Speaker 3: plywood and the star annis is some fine grit sandpaper 1850 01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,519 Speaker 3: coming in and buffing that up, and it's just like 1851 01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:06,760 Speaker 3: it just helps it. And that's I mean the entire 1852 01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:10,120 Speaker 3: spice trade. Uh, were we talking about this last night 1853 01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:10,639 Speaker 3: in Venice? 1854 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know that you're in a safe place if 1855 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,200 Speaker 6: you haven't actually thought about your menu and the ingredients. 1856 01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:30,880 Speaker 11: It's okay to just say that. 1857 01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,920 Speaker 2: I never knew it was staring at the never knew 1858 01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,040 Speaker 2: it was so stupid to make one of my number 1859 01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:38,680 Speaker 2: one favorite dishes the. 1860 01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:43,880 Speaker 4: Way I made had my award winning restaurant. I'm glad 1861 01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:45,080 Speaker 4: I talked to that young man. 1862 01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:51,840 Speaker 3: But the entire spice trade was there to kind of 1863 01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 3: mask strong meats, and so the spices I think have 1864 01:31:56,040 --> 01:32:00,000 Speaker 3: a very clear role and it's not overt. And people 1865 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,879 Speaker 3: that hate fennel or liquorice and stuff like that typically 1866 01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:04,080 Speaker 3: still like the pork job. 1867 01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:07,240 Speaker 4: Okay, so I was maybe a little wrong. 1868 01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:07,680 Speaker 7: I don't know. 1869 01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:18,479 Speaker 6: I've ripping through just for funsies. Here some Google reviews 1870 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:23,800 Speaker 6: of Die Dewey No, and I think this would like 1871 01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:29,799 Speaker 6: fallen in Steve's review category. This person had a pistrami sandwich. 1872 01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:35,720 Speaker 6: Really good, but a little heavy to pick up. 1873 01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:40,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that pastrami is pretty serious, but I don't. 1874 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,880 Speaker 6: Understand, like what your expectation of a pastrami sandwich would be. 1875 01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,160 Speaker 2: It's too much. I got too much sandwich. 1876 01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, so that the dining experience was great. Knocked you 1877 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,000 Speaker 6: a star for your parking situation. 1878 01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, when I when I was born, the concrete out there, 1879 01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:58,880 Speaker 3: I was looking around thinking maybe a couple more of it. 1880 01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,240 Speaker 3: I was like, nah, I think this is enough. 1881 01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:04,280 Speaker 6: But I also just like, think of how many restaurants 1882 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,519 Speaker 6: there are in the planet that has no parking correct? None? 1883 01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:09,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I would like to address that person right now 1884 01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:13,320 Speaker 3: and be like, we've rented that building, not our parking lot. 1885 01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:15,680 Speaker 2: That's the thing when you're when you're checking out a 1886 01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:19,400 Speaker 2: product on whatever website, and then you know, you wonder 1887 01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,720 Speaker 2: like it has some one stars and it wants up 1888 01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:26,960 Speaker 2: being something that's like the delivery guy left it, you 1889 01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,479 Speaker 2: know at my neighbor's place one star. 1890 01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,040 Speaker 9: We had a guy, we had a guy who commented, 1891 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:37,400 Speaker 9: you know, he was very disappointed in you personally because 1892 01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:41,000 Speaker 9: of the parking situation at the University of Montana. He said, 1893 01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,000 Speaker 9: I would have thought you could have done a better 1894 01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,760 Speaker 9: organized event than to have parking like that. 1895 01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,080 Speaker 4: Oh, fair pressed about that. 1896 01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:51,320 Speaker 2: Turkey seasons coming. 1897 01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:57,559 Speaker 3: Up fifteen days from now, and I'll be uh looking 1898 01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:02,760 Speaker 3: at at Gobblers teen days from now and hopefully get 1899 01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:04,479 Speaker 3: a couple upside down on the fifteen. 1900 01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:09,360 Speaker 2: What are people dumb not to do this turkey season? 1901 01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:13,000 Speaker 3: I mean, we're gonna go We're going to go baseline 1902 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:16,920 Speaker 3: on this. And I recently had a in experience where 1903 01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:18,800 Speaker 3: I spoke to a lot of turkey hunters in one 1904 01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:23,120 Speaker 3: confined area, and the number that still aren't taking the legs, 1905 01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:27,679 Speaker 3: it's pretty stunning. I just don't get it, Like, I mean, 1906 01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,439 Speaker 3: they're tough. It's like, well, you didn't cook them long 1907 01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:34,439 Speaker 3: enough legs. I think there's a lot of value on 1908 01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:36,920 Speaker 3: the wings. Montana. I just I had no idea you 1909 01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:41,080 Speaker 3: have to take the wings according to the ring. I 1910 01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:43,000 Speaker 3: feel like I just saw that. 1911 01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,360 Speaker 7: You know, I mean last year I read those rags. 1912 01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:49,200 Speaker 7: You're still I think I'm supposed to take. 1913 01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,519 Speaker 2: I mean I know that they undid it on a 1914 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:54,360 Speaker 2: lot of other birds. 1915 01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:55,040 Speaker 3: Okay, so. 1916 01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,840 Speaker 6: I mean obviously this is not what a lot of 1917 01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,439 Speaker 6: people do, right, But like, if you it is not 1918 01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,520 Speaker 6: hard to pluck a turkey, I will argue with anybody 1919 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:08,280 Speaker 6: like it just does not take that much time. But 1920 01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:10,920 Speaker 6: if you go all the way out to the wing tips, 1921 01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,479 Speaker 6: like those things are so full of there's like probably 1922 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:17,360 Speaker 6: more fat and collagen in that little section than a 1923 01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:21,439 Speaker 6: lot of the bird itself. So like making a little 1924 01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:24,400 Speaker 6: stock out of those wings is absolutely worth your while. 1925 01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a routine with the wings. I am, 1926 01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,800 Speaker 3: and we covered this last time. I don't pluck my 1927 01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:34,840 Speaker 3: birds because what I use them for I don't need 1928 01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,759 Speaker 3: the skin on there, yep. I do mostly like fried 1929 01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,960 Speaker 3: turkey or cutlets off of off of the breasts and 1930 01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,120 Speaker 3: then you know, just slow cooking and shred in those legs. 1931 01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,760 Speaker 3: But I will every once in a while pluck one 1932 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:47,759 Speaker 3: just to just to look at it and have that skin. 1933 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:51,719 Speaker 3: But I don't know, just utilize more of it. I don't. 1934 01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:53,880 Speaker 3: I don't get the time deal. He sat under a 1935 01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:57,479 Speaker 3: tree for seven hours and take your thirty extra minutes. 1936 01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:00,760 Speaker 3: I don't have time for this. 1937 01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:03,960 Speaker 2: Can I give a I'm gonna give it. I'm not 1938 01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,360 Speaker 2: asking if I can. I'm gonna give a people leg 1939 01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:10,680 Speaker 2: away to think about turkey legs. So let's say you 1940 01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,479 Speaker 2: just skin the turkey leg out right, So you skin 1941 01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,240 Speaker 2: the breast back like your breast, and the bird you 1942 01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:19,040 Speaker 2: keep skinning to get to the thighs. I like to 1943 01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,960 Speaker 2: take and cut the foot off at the ankle. Take 1944 01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,960 Speaker 2: a flane knife and insert it and skin up. So 1945 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:27,479 Speaker 2: you know you got like where the skin meets the 1946 01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,599 Speaker 2: feather on a leg. That part's hard to pull. So 1947 01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,960 Speaker 2: take a flay knife and flay make a skinning cut 1948 01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:35,320 Speaker 2: like you're skinning a deer's leg. 1949 01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:35,559 Speaker 4: Out. 1950 01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,400 Speaker 2: Make a skinning cut a few inches up the leg. 1951 01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:38,080 Speaker 2: Then you skin it. 1952 01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:38,759 Speaker 4: It goes quicker. 1953 01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:40,720 Speaker 2: It helps because it's hard to skin that part the 1954 01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:44,400 Speaker 2: other way around. I freeze those so I got the 1955 01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,200 Speaker 2: drumming in the thigh and I put them. If you 1956 01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,400 Speaker 2: match them up, if you're smart about your geometry, you 1957 01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:51,080 Speaker 2: can match them up in a bag and you actually 1958 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,679 Speaker 2: wind up with a rectangle in a freezer bag. 1959 01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:59,519 Speaker 7: See. I'll even do them specific purposely part them out 1960 01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,439 Speaker 7: because because I feel like the drumsticks take so much 1961 01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:05,679 Speaker 7: longer than the thighs that I now cook him separately. 1962 01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:07,280 Speaker 7: I agree with that. 1963 01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:10,519 Speaker 3: I like that, okay, but also two turkey legs is 1964 01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:11,120 Speaker 3: quite a bit. 1965 01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:13,120 Speaker 2: I'm not but he had to let me finish. 1966 01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:18,680 Speaker 4: Sorry, hear me out. 1967 01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,599 Speaker 6: No, it's like that front of house, back of house. 1968 01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:25,120 Speaker 2: T I'm just walking through one. This is just one 1969 01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:30,320 Speaker 2: man's approach. This is one man's approach, right, So then 1970 01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:35,800 Speaker 2: come cooking time. I got one of those, any like, 1971 01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:37,400 Speaker 2: I have some of those when I got him, wh 1972 01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:38,000 Speaker 2: I got married. 1973 01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:39,679 Speaker 4: I've been married a long time. 1974 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:46,040 Speaker 2: Those la crusee the giant oval la crusade thing, lay 1975 01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:49,920 Speaker 2: as many of those two three four or whatever drumstick 1976 01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:53,439 Speaker 2: thigh combos. You put a season's worth of the turkey's 1977 01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,040 Speaker 2: in there. If you got two turkeys, put him in there. 1978 01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:00,360 Speaker 2: I cover him with liquid. If I got stock, I 1979 01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:01,760 Speaker 2: do it with stock. But you don't even really need 1980 01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,280 Speaker 2: to do that. If you just short on time, then 1981 01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:06,960 Speaker 2: I put foil over it to help not lose my 1982 01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:10,240 Speaker 2: liquid from steam, and just put it. Put it in 1983 01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:12,439 Speaker 2: your oven at three hundred degrees and forget that you 1984 01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,320 Speaker 2: did it. If you got to go work to work 1985 01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:19,040 Speaker 2: for nine hours, forget, Just add more water and forget 1986 01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,200 Speaker 2: that you did it. Leave a sticky note that says, 1987 01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:26,360 Speaker 2: do not mess with oven so that your wife doesn't 1988 01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:27,640 Speaker 2: come in and turn the oven off because you're not 1989 01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,840 Speaker 2: home and haven't been home in hours, and like, all 1990 01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,519 Speaker 2: you're doing is you're getting it to the point where 1991 01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:35,559 Speaker 2: you can like tear it up and then you'll pick 1992 01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:38,040 Speaker 2: it and you'll have a giant bowl to pick meat. 1993 01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:43,719 Speaker 2: Now get a bunch of get a cast iron skill 1994 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:45,720 Speaker 2: and put like a quarter inch of beef tallow in 1995 01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:50,479 Speaker 2: it or whatever beara and cram that shit on that 1996 01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:56,840 Speaker 2: pan until then the bottom is burning. Flip it until 1997 01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:58,280 Speaker 2: the bottom is like crispy. 1998 01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:04,440 Speaker 5: That's write a recipe, I was gonna say. 1999 01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:08,680 Speaker 12: And then you take all that and it's just like 2000 01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,559 Speaker 12: you just do whatever you want with that. Certainly, you 2001 01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,320 Speaker 12: put it on tacos, you put it on sandwiches. I 2002 01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:18,840 Speaker 12: freeze it again and mark it like camping. And then 2003 01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:20,559 Speaker 12: and then you go camping and no one feels like 2004 01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,800 Speaker 12: doing anything, so you open that bag up, dump it 2005 01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:29,000 Speaker 12: into a pant with barbacue sauce, and have more sandwiches. 2006 01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,880 Speaker 4: It's like, it's not that hard, let's write. 2007 01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,200 Speaker 2: It's like it's like, oh wow, now I have a 2008 01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:37,840 Speaker 2: giant pile of super good stuff to eat. 2009 01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:39,360 Speaker 3: It's so easy. 2010 01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:41,680 Speaker 4: I can like do anything with. 2011 01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,160 Speaker 7: There is a couple of things that you can even 2012 01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:49,040 Speaker 7: to make it better. One we talked about this. You 2013 01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:52,919 Speaker 7: can't make it. Yeah, well no, it is like instead 2014 01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:57,160 Speaker 7: of like after you shed it back into the liquid 2015 01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,640 Speaker 7: and let it sit for a day or two, just 2016 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,720 Speaker 7: ok in that liquid and let that suck that moisture 2017 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,840 Speaker 7: back in. It makes a huge difference. 2018 01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,120 Speaker 4: I think for any you. 2019 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:09,320 Speaker 7: Can't make wild game. 2020 01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:10,960 Speaker 2: You can't make it certainly. 2021 01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,840 Speaker 7: And then I would say too, when you're gonna go 2022 01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,519 Speaker 7: with the big you know, bear grease cast iron skillet 2023 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,880 Speaker 7: fry session, you can't overload a pan because you're gonna 2024 01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,400 Speaker 7: bring down your temp too much. So you gotta do 2025 01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,120 Speaker 7: it in batches so you get that nice crisp that 2026 01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:25,719 Speaker 7: you want. 2027 01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:27,400 Speaker 2: I disagree because if you. 2028 01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:30,200 Speaker 7: Put all those four legs all in there, Oh, you 2029 01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:32,040 Speaker 7: can't do four No, No, because I mean you don't 2030 01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:33,559 Speaker 7: have to have an impressive cast. 2031 01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:37,479 Speaker 2: No, I didn't mean that. Yeah, like you got more 2032 01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:38,000 Speaker 2: than you can. 2033 01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:39,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, we can't have like two inches. 2034 01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:40,840 Speaker 4: You got more. 2035 01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,720 Speaker 2: That's a that's a great clarification. You wind up. If 2036 01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:46,680 Speaker 2: you got a if you got like a like a 2037 01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:49,439 Speaker 2: ten inch skillet, I don't know what you got. 2038 01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:51,320 Speaker 9: Like you're making three quarters of an inch of meat 2039 01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:53,479 Speaker 9: meat pancakes, Yeah you got three quarters. 2040 01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. You can't pile them on there. You 2041 01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,759 Speaker 2: just have a big be all steamy, and you wouldn't 2042 01:40:58,800 --> 01:40:59,519 Speaker 2: get what you're after. 2043 01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,520 Speaker 7: This is car Now, how important. 2044 01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:03,519 Speaker 2: I was trying to make it sound Oh can you 2045 01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:04,840 Speaker 2: settle of a fight between. 2046 01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:04,800 Speaker 7: Me and you? 2047 01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:05,160 Speaker 4: Honest? 2048 01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:09,519 Speaker 7: How can I have a question? First? How important is 2049 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,639 Speaker 7: it to you? Because you didn't mention this in your 2050 01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,280 Speaker 7: recipe here. I want to know if it's important to 2051 01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:17,840 Speaker 7: you that before they go into the liquid, that you 2052 01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:23,400 Speaker 7: would seer or broil those legs to sort of crispy outside, 2053 01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:25,639 Speaker 7: put salt and pepper on them, you know, do that. 2054 01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,120 Speaker 2: I was trying to do. I was trying to do 2055 01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,439 Speaker 2: the thing where I'm talking people into how easy it is, 2056 01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,160 Speaker 2: so I was leaving out all these little added things on. 2057 01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:37,200 Speaker 7: You can do. I feel like, well, the answer so 2058 01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:38,120 Speaker 7: doesn't make a difference. 2059 01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:41,040 Speaker 3: What he's describing is is I mean, there's other cultures 2060 01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,280 Speaker 3: do this, but most notably Mexico does it where they 2061 01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:48,120 Speaker 3: there's this very slow gentle cook followed by a crispying 2062 01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:51,800 Speaker 3: caramelization at the end. So the carneaita's effect if you 2063 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:53,639 Speaker 3: were to do that in the beginning where you're getting 2064 01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,360 Speaker 3: achieving the my ard reaction on the outside of getting 2065 01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:59,160 Speaker 3: those sugars caramelized on the meat and then cooking it 2066 01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:03,680 Speaker 3: and then doing it again, probably not necessary as much 2067 01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:06,120 Speaker 3: because you're going to achieve that at the end, you're 2068 01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:08,240 Speaker 3: going to get that crispiness at the end. So I 2069 01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:10,280 Speaker 3: would just go I would, I would. 2070 01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:13,519 Speaker 7: That's good. It saves me time. 2071 01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:18,439 Speaker 6: I'm a I'm a bird plucker because I don't like 2072 01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:21,040 Speaker 6: bring I don't do a lot of like packaging in 2073 01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:25,360 Speaker 6: the field, so I have that skin as my barrier 2074 01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:30,400 Speaker 6: to dirt and everything else. And and then when I 2075 01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:34,960 Speaker 6: get home, I inevitably am pulling the skin off of everything. 2076 01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:37,880 Speaker 6: But then I'll I'll throw that in the stock pot 2077 01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:44,840 Speaker 6: or what I've done, And this is experimentation at home. 2078 01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:49,000 Speaker 6: Is salt that stuff, cut it into strips and just 2079 01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:53,400 Speaker 6: let it like sit there. It's not like very moist anyway, 2080 01:42:53,880 --> 01:43:02,400 Speaker 6: but then fry it exactly. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's 2081 01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:04,559 Speaker 6: kind of cheating, like there's not a lot to that 2082 01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:08,240 Speaker 6: turkey skin, you know. Yeah, and fried things taste great. 2083 01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:10,960 Speaker 2: You know what I made one time? I actually made 2084 01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:16,640 Speaker 2: this way more than one time. Three times? Is you 2085 01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:18,320 Speaker 2: ever skin the whole damn turkey out? 2086 01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:18,479 Speaker 3: For me? 2087 01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:19,799 Speaker 4: Is way more than one. 2088 01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:23,080 Speaker 2: Well, hear me out. You'll see you'll appreciate. 2089 01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:28,760 Speaker 3: It, especially if you're a sailfish. That's it. 2090 01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:31,759 Speaker 2: That's the episode you ever skin a whole damp turkey 2091 01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:35,120 Speaker 2: out and then lay the hideout, and then you grind 2092 01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:39,080 Speaker 2: the turkey up, you grind the dark meat up, plaster 2093 01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:42,200 Speaker 2: it on that hide, and then you take the breast 2094 01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,280 Speaker 2: meat and cut long strips and lay those all out, 2095 01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:47,640 Speaker 2: and then you take like pistachio. 2096 01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:51,000 Speaker 3: Baalatine, yeah, Gallantine Valentine, Galantine, Yeah. 2097 01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,720 Speaker 2: And then roll it up like a sausage and then 2098 01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:58,360 Speaker 2: braise that that's pretty good. Yeah, but why you just 2099 01:43:58,360 --> 01:43:59,800 Speaker 2: can you settle the fight between me and you? Honest, 2100 01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:01,040 Speaker 2: it's gonna be the final word. 2101 01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:03,520 Speaker 4: I'm so excited. 2102 01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:04,599 Speaker 2: Do you know about the fight? 2103 01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:05,240 Speaker 4: No? 2104 01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:09,040 Speaker 2: You do, of course I have no Sam Bates has 2105 01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:10,040 Speaker 2: been moderating the fight. 2106 01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,479 Speaker 7: Mmmm ah yeah then I do know. 2107 01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:14,599 Speaker 3: Please let's go. 2108 01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:20,000 Speaker 2: If you're rating food R A T I n G. Yeah, 2109 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,920 Speaker 2: you're rating You're you're rating a dish. 2110 01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:25,679 Speaker 7: You could use the synonym judging. 2111 01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:29,360 Speaker 2: You're judging food. Do you feel that if if you're 2112 01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,960 Speaker 2: judging a dish and there's a bunch of criteria and 2113 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:35,280 Speaker 2: then those criteria get like a one to five score, 2114 01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,320 Speaker 2: so they're additive, right, Like they all need to work 2115 01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:42,559 Speaker 2: in Like they all need to work in synchronicity, or 2116 01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:44,080 Speaker 2: they all need to What am I trying to say? 2117 01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:47,479 Speaker 4: It's a holistic it's a whole. 2118 01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're making a holistic score with like five criteria, 2119 01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:55,640 Speaker 2: and all five criteria are scored one to five. Do 2120 01:44:55,720 --> 01:45:00,640 Speaker 2: you feel that's saying approachable and creative creates a conflict 2121 01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:04,760 Speaker 2: where if it's one, it's less likely to be the other, 2122 01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:07,640 Speaker 2: and if it's the other, it's less likely to be 2123 01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:07,960 Speaker 2: the one. 2124 01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:12,760 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. So there's a scale that goes from approachable 2125 01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:13,479 Speaker 3: to creative. 2126 01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,599 Speaker 9: No, no, no, I mean the question is, really, can something 2127 01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:17,280 Speaker 9: be creative and approachable? 2128 01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:21,519 Speaker 2: It can, Yes, in some circumstances, I agree. I just 2129 01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:26,920 Speaker 2: feel like in some cases these things are offset approachability 2130 01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:29,519 Speaker 2: in creativity, meaning we were just talking about let's say 2131 01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,600 Speaker 2: you were the first guy to ever make a gallantine. 2132 01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:38,479 Speaker 2: You would get a very high creativity score, yes, but 2133 01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,680 Speaker 2: approachability someone would say, see, I'm not gonna skin a 2134 01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:43,519 Speaker 2: whole damn turkey out like that. I'm gonna give that 2135 01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:49,000 Speaker 2: a one that's not very approachable. That looks impossible. I 2136 01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:52,800 Speaker 2: just think so my argument is that there's a conflict 2137 01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:57,640 Speaker 2: in scoring a dish. There's a conflict between approachability and creativity. 2138 01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:00,639 Speaker 2: Yanni believes that they are perfectly aligned. 2139 01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:04,200 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say perfectly aligned, but if you can create something, 2140 01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,679 Speaker 3: which is kind of a one of the key tenets 2141 01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:11,320 Speaker 3: of riding recipes is how do you achieve both of 2142 01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:14,000 Speaker 3: those things? You know, how do you? So much has 2143 01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,080 Speaker 3: already been written. So if you were to like make 2144 01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:20,600 Speaker 3: a really simple brine, you know, that's easy, that's approachable, 2145 01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:23,280 Speaker 3: But if you want to make it really good and 2146 01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:25,800 Speaker 3: really creative, you put stars in there. 2147 01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:34,719 Speaker 2: Can you answer the question I did, who wins the fight? 2148 01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,160 Speaker 3: Would? I'm gonna go Yannie, because I think that you 2149 01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,160 Speaker 3: it doesn't have to pull. You could have high scores 2150 01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:43,599 Speaker 3: in both because I think if it was easy enough 2151 01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,400 Speaker 3: and then it was just like and it was something like, 2152 01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:48,880 Speaker 3: oh I never thought of that. You know, like that's great, 2153 01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:50,680 Speaker 3: that's a great little trick to do, and it's just 2154 01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:52,960 Speaker 3: like it's easy. You can be creative and then you 2155 01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:57,000 Speaker 3: can still I mean, you want to inspire people that 2156 01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,840 Speaker 3: cook game to actually do it. You don't want to 2157 01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:03,400 Speaker 3: have these crazy complicated recipes. Maybe a couple, but for 2158 01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:06,880 Speaker 3: the most part, you want something approachable. But you got 2159 01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:09,720 Speaker 3: to have that. What's the thing, what's the what's the 2160 01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:11,840 Speaker 3: icing on there, what's the thing that really kind of 2161 01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,400 Speaker 3: makes that that recipe shine. You gotta have a little 2162 01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:16,960 Speaker 3: bit of creativity, or every recipe needs to have this 2163 01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:21,280 Speaker 3: one different technique, different ingredient or something that is simple 2164 01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,799 Speaker 3: that's just going to elevate that beyond all the recipes 2165 01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:24,479 Speaker 3: I've already seen. 2166 01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:27,720 Speaker 9: So I've been making grilled cheeses for a while, my 2167 01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:31,360 Speaker 9: whole life, and only a few years ago did I 2168 01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,760 Speaker 9: discover that you can make a traditional grilled cheese and 2169 01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:38,320 Speaker 9: then you finally shred some parmesan on the outside of 2170 01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:41,240 Speaker 9: the grilled cheese, flip it back and forth, and then 2171 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,200 Speaker 9: you have a crust of cheese on the outside of 2172 01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:43,840 Speaker 9: your grilled cheese. 2173 01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:46,280 Speaker 3: That is that is a perfect example of that that 2174 01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,639 Speaker 3: is approachable and creative. I say five and five. 2175 01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:51,960 Speaker 4: I didn't come up with it. 2176 01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:55,080 Speaker 6: His wrong answer face. 2177 01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:58,599 Speaker 4: I put it to him. 2178 01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:00,280 Speaker 2: He came out, yeah, and he's right wrong. 2179 01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:03,599 Speaker 7: Do you ever just make a regular grilled cheese, Well, 2180 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:05,719 Speaker 7: never think about it, don't stop there, and then add 2181 01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,760 Speaker 7: another layer of cheese and another piece of buttered bread 2182 01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:11,920 Speaker 7: and just flip it over and then start making layers 2183 01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:15,400 Speaker 7: of grilled cheese and have maybe two or three grilled 2184 01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:16,200 Speaker 7: cheeses all. 2185 01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,360 Speaker 8: In one different That is interesting. 2186 01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:21,439 Speaker 9: You're basically describing a burger King bacon eat or without 2187 01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:22,559 Speaker 9: the patties and bacon. 2188 01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,759 Speaker 7: I've never had one of those. If I've made many 2189 01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,120 Speaker 7: grilled cheeses that have four or five layers. 2190 01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:31,879 Speaker 4: Wendy's product. 2191 01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:35,519 Speaker 6: Actually, the burger King on getting it was called like 2192 01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:38,640 Speaker 6: a stacker or something you could get. You could get 2193 01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,040 Speaker 6: a quade four patties. It was great. 2194 01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:46,960 Speaker 2: Sorry, I got way off track. Tell people what else 2195 01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:48,759 Speaker 2: they're dumb not to make this turkey season? 2196 01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,800 Speaker 3: You know, the heart, liver, gizzard. It's good stuff. Of 2197 01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,920 Speaker 3: every of all those delicious animals out there, that's some 2198 01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:58,880 Speaker 3: of the mildest, especially that liver. I love it. What 2199 01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:01,120 Speaker 3: do you do with it? And it's a simple, Patti, 2200 01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:02,200 Speaker 3: really nice. 2201 01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:04,800 Speaker 2: Make it creative and approachable. 2202 01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:08,479 Speaker 3: You're gonna sear the liver till it's about medium. 2203 01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:11,920 Speaker 2: So like I'm dumb, So okay, you're gonna put it. 2204 01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:13,360 Speaker 4: I got a turkey, I got a turkey liver. 2205 01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:13,840 Speaker 7: Uh huh. 2206 01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,240 Speaker 3: Look, then I do what you're gonna You're gonna season 2207 01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:17,880 Speaker 3: with salt and pepper, and you're gonna put it in 2208 01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,639 Speaker 3: a hot pan with some butter, and you're gonna get 2209 01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,120 Speaker 3: a little brown on it, and you're gonna cook it 2210 01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:26,400 Speaker 3: till it's not super firm. A little pink in in there, 2211 01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:29,559 Speaker 3: you're gonna remove that, and then in a blender you're 2212 01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:31,800 Speaker 3: gonna blend and there's probably gonna be some sort of 2213 01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:33,280 Speaker 3: shallot or onions chopped up. 2214 01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:35,680 Speaker 2: So be good to have your body's turkey liver too, it. 2215 01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,200 Speaker 3: Would be it'll be helpful. Yeah. Yeah, if you've got 2216 01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:39,880 Speaker 3: a couple, it's gonna it'll it'll help. 2217 01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:41,519 Speaker 2: And it'd be also good if you got the gall 2218 01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:42,360 Speaker 2: sack off it. 2219 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:44,760 Speaker 3: Do that that little green thing cut around that, get 2220 01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:46,320 Speaker 3: out of the out of there. Yeah. 2221 01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:46,680 Speaker 7: Uh. 2222 01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:48,400 Speaker 3: And then that you cool it off a little bit 2223 01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:50,920 Speaker 3: and that goes into a blender, uh, and you blend 2224 01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:54,400 Speaker 3: it until it's a smooth paste. And you're adding a 2225 01:49:54,439 --> 01:49:57,559 Speaker 3: little bit of cold butter every couple of seconds till 2226 01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:02,519 Speaker 3: it kind of it's smooth and it incorporated. Check the 2227 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,360 Speaker 3: seasoning there's you know, add some sort of booze in there. 2228 01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:09,200 Speaker 3: It's usually good. A little bit of brandy or apple 2229 01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,320 Speaker 3: jack something like that is usually nice. Just a few 2230 01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:14,240 Speaker 3: drops of that and then if you really want to 2231 01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:16,200 Speaker 3: make it good, you're gonna you're gonna pass that. You're 2232 01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:18,519 Speaker 3: gonna press it with the spatula through a little mesh 2233 01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:21,280 Speaker 3: bol strainer and that's going to remove any of the 2234 01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:25,439 Speaker 3: sinews and and just the little stringing parts that are 2235 01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:28,639 Speaker 3: in a little yeah, and then that'll get it super smooth. 2236 01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:30,439 Speaker 3: And then you just chill that and then you eat 2237 01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:32,519 Speaker 3: that with a little bit of warm toasted bread. 2238 01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,120 Speaker 2: So good, Okay, hit hit me with the gizzard here, 2239 01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:36,879 Speaker 2: I got a gizzard. 2240 01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:40,559 Speaker 3: The gizzard, uh, my favorite way to do the combos 2241 01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:42,680 Speaker 3: with me and Kyle Cook. Last time I see it 2242 01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:46,320 Speaker 3: was the ragu where we you know, grind the heart 2243 01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:49,360 Speaker 3: liver gizzard all together and then render out a little 2244 01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,000 Speaker 3: bit of bacon or pancetta till that's browned, and then 2245 01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:54,400 Speaker 3: you add that ground heart liver gizzard in there. Then 2246 01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:57,639 Speaker 3: you grind some carrot, onion celery, put that in there 2247 01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:00,400 Speaker 3: and cook that down little tomato paste, little stock, and 2248 01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,880 Speaker 3: then hit that with pasta. It's fast, it's it's yeah, 2249 01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,320 Speaker 3: I mean like less than an hour and you get 2250 01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,720 Speaker 3: these three really distinct textures. You know, we were talking 2251 01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:10,400 Speaker 3: about that, you know, the gizzard you know, it's got 2252 01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:14,360 Speaker 3: a little strength to it that the liver smooths everything 2253 01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:16,519 Speaker 3: out and the heart's kind of in between. You get 2254 01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:18,400 Speaker 3: a little bit of a I mean, I prefer panchetta, 2255 01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,519 Speaker 3: but I make a lot of it out of hog bellies. 2256 01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:24,640 Speaker 3: But smoke bacon is delicious as well, a little bit 2257 01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:28,120 Speaker 3: of tomado paste and then that just slow cooks, and 2258 01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:29,880 Speaker 3: then you just cook some pasta. Toss that in there 2259 01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:31,400 Speaker 3: ton of pecorino or parmesan. 2260 01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:33,920 Speaker 7: Is that recipe in the Turkey book? It is? 2261 01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:34,880 Speaker 6: Turn right, it is? 2262 01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:35,240 Speaker 3: It is. 2263 01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:42,599 Speaker 6: I took everybody's collective uh turkey olefual and made made 2264 01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,040 Speaker 6: that in one big batch last year at the end 2265 01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:48,160 Speaker 6: of turkey season, and then uh package that up for 2266 01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:48,840 Speaker 6: camp meals. 2267 01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool me and Yanni, that's that's on the menu. 2268 01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:53,639 Speaker 3: Oh good, we're having. 2269 01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:55,120 Speaker 2: You want to know another one I stole from you 2270 01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:57,400 Speaker 2: that I tried. I took one of your domestic meat 2271 01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:01,080 Speaker 2: recipes and converted it to a wild eat recipe. Is 2272 01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:01,880 Speaker 2: that at die do? 2273 01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:02,160 Speaker 3: Way? 2274 01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:04,760 Speaker 2: You guys do that? If you're still doing it? You 2275 01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:08,320 Speaker 2: got all those chicken hearts, Oh yeah, which you're like, 2276 01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:13,280 Speaker 2: he's cooking chicken hearts in fat and then skewering them 2277 01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:16,599 Speaker 2: and then putting them on a hot grill. So I 2278 01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:23,200 Speaker 2: take a like a small little uh oh, I even 2279 01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:24,760 Speaker 2: describe it man, like a. 2280 01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:27,639 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, like. 2281 01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:31,040 Speaker 2: A really heavy sided like imagine like enamel dutch of 2282 01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:35,040 Speaker 2: and it's like dinky, you know, because that way I'm 2283 01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,360 Speaker 2: not wasting so much of my fat. 2284 01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:38,240 Speaker 7: A little crock. 2285 01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:40,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I take like a little crock and just put 2286 01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:43,680 Speaker 2: all a bunch of hearts in there and top it up. 2287 01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:45,400 Speaker 2: You can top it with olive oil if you needed to, 2288 01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:47,400 Speaker 2: but if you got like beef towel or something, top 2289 01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:51,040 Speaker 2: it in there and just ever so like turn your 2290 01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:54,479 Speaker 2: burner down about as low as you can get it 2291 01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:58,439 Speaker 2: and offset offset it even it's just like you're trying 2292 01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:01,679 Speaker 2: to do. You're trying to do like a con fee, 2293 01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:04,320 Speaker 2: which is a super low heat. Right, it's not it's 2294 01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:06,599 Speaker 2: not bubbling like fry oil. It's like a little bit 2295 01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:07,759 Speaker 2: like now. And then it's like a little. 2296 01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:11,880 Speaker 3: Blue yeah, blue blue, because if. 2297 01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,680 Speaker 2: You overdo it, it'll they'll mush out on you. But 2298 01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,160 Speaker 2: I do it like that, and then I ask for them. 2299 01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:19,240 Speaker 7: How long does that take? The oil part? 2300 01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:21,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, maybe I do them for an hour. 2301 01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2302 01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:23,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a little fun dude. 2303 01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, duck hearts, grouse hearts, turkey hearts. You want to 2304 01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:29,280 Speaker 2: cut them up? 2305 01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:32,599 Speaker 4: They're pretty big, yeah, probably half them. 2306 01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:36,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then get have either a live fire or 2307 01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,080 Speaker 2: on a grill, and then I put it. 2308 01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:39,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I. 2309 01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:40,360 Speaker 2: Don't know if you do it. I can't, mamor if 2310 01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,639 Speaker 2: you do it, but I do. I put some cayenne 2311 01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:45,479 Speaker 2: powder around there, some chili powder, something spicy. 2312 01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:47,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, hot honey would be really good. 2313 01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:52,880 Speaker 2: And then yea, that is good. My kids will walk 2314 01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,400 Speaker 2: I just eating those little things. They love them. 2315 01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:58,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, the chicken hearts at the restaurant, my daughter's favorite. 2316 01:53:58,240 --> 01:53:59,439 Speaker 2: You still serve that dish. 2317 01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one. I mean, the con fee 2318 01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,040 Speaker 3: technique is just so applicable to so many things, you know, 2319 01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:09,000 Speaker 3: just for getting it tender and then coming in on 2320 01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,519 Speaker 3: the grill afterwards and just getting it cold, and then 2321 01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:13,360 Speaker 3: putting it on the grill and just you've got that 2322 01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:15,200 Speaker 3: tender meat and then you're adding in the jar and 2323 01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:18,040 Speaker 3: steer and smoke. It works on a lot. 2324 01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:22,559 Speaker 7: Oftentimes, I'd limit myself with doing con fee because I 2325 01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:26,160 Speaker 7: feel like the amount of oil or fat needed and 2326 01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,920 Speaker 7: the costs associated with that. So a few times I've 2327 01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:31,600 Speaker 7: done it in a bag suv style. How do you 2328 01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:32,320 Speaker 7: feel about that? 2329 01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:35,440 Speaker 3: I feel like it just doesn't work as well. I 2330 01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:37,960 Speaker 3: get it, though I have to. I have a kind 2331 01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:40,560 Speaker 3: of unlimited source of it. I would say, just try 2332 01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:45,200 Speaker 3: to match your like he's saying, match your cooking vessel 2333 01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:48,200 Speaker 3: to the quantity of meat, and save as much of 2334 01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,400 Speaker 3: that fat as you can, and you can reuse the fat. 2335 01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:52,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I started doing. More. 2336 01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:55,840 Speaker 2: I got a shelf above my thing. I got little 2337 01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:58,680 Speaker 2: glass jars full of various oils that have had various 2338 01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:01,800 Speaker 2: things happened to them, and everyone knows not the mess 2339 01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:03,640 Speaker 2: with them. They just get the new stuff. But I'll 2340 01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:05,080 Speaker 2: be like, oh, I remember that oil, and I'll just 2341 01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:05,800 Speaker 2: use it for something. 2342 01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:08,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you can raise it for You might 2343 01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:10,560 Speaker 3: want to go in and get that that liquid bottom 2344 01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:14,640 Speaker 3: part out of there, because sometimes that can spoil. But 2345 01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:18,040 Speaker 3: if you've salted the meat previously, usually there's enough salt 2346 01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:20,960 Speaker 3: in that layer then it'll keep it from going off. 2347 01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:23,520 Speaker 3: But if it's another reason, you put it in like 2348 01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:26,040 Speaker 3: a glass jar or something tall sided so you can 2349 01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:29,080 Speaker 3: see it, maybe scrape it out and get that part. 2350 01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:31,080 Speaker 2: Off the bottom. You know what the fur trapper Stu 2351 01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:33,000 Speaker 2: Miller does with his old fish fry oil. 2352 01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:35,880 Speaker 4: No, he saves his old fish. 2353 01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:37,880 Speaker 2: Fry oil, puts it a squirt bottle and when you 2354 01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:43,400 Speaker 2: set in coon couffs and you get let it dribble 2355 01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:46,280 Speaker 2: down the bank and get into the creek or whatever. Yeah, 2356 01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:52,680 Speaker 2: flings a craving on him. Fish fry grease I've had. 2357 01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:55,160 Speaker 2: It's like everything a raccoon could possibly want. 2358 01:55:55,280 --> 01:56:00,960 Speaker 7: Right, It's like grease and fish. 2359 01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:04,720 Speaker 6: Really good luck with crane legs and goose legs in 2360 01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:10,120 Speaker 6: the doing it the souv com fee style. Yeah, and man, Yeah, 2361 01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:13,400 Speaker 6: a lot of times it's like dealing with the big 2362 01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:16,800 Speaker 6: vat to do a bunch of legs and like a 2363 01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:19,960 Speaker 6: meal for one person, pretty darn easy in the sub style. 2364 01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:23,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, buddy of mine shows up at the tailgate with those, 2365 01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:26,760 Speaker 7: so after long day hunting, just pulls that out of 2366 01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:30,520 Speaker 7: the cooler, cold, already done, and just cuts that back 2367 01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:33,760 Speaker 7: bag open and just hands out pheasant legs to people. 2368 01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:37,320 Speaker 7: So you're having a beer and a comb feed pheasant 2369 01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:39,880 Speaker 7: leg It's delicious. 2370 01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:42,440 Speaker 5: One of you guys do it the Seth and Kelsey 2371 01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:47,040 Speaker 5: Morris Way, because I know that they're pretty anti plastic, 2372 01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:51,320 Speaker 5: and I put myself into that camp to where I. 2373 01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:51,960 Speaker 11: Just I don't know. 2374 01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:55,720 Speaker 5: I'm like, heating plastic doesn't sound like. 2375 01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:58,120 Speaker 2: Souv and the silicon the silicon zip. 2376 01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:03,400 Speaker 5: They pack a sin jar full and then put the mason. 2377 01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:07,040 Speaker 2: Jar that's been reading up on that taint shrinkage. Yeah, 2378 01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:09,160 Speaker 2: he's gonna start a podcast called taint Talk. 2379 01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:12,360 Speaker 5: It could be maybe it's about that, but it's like, 2380 01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:15,200 Speaker 5: I don't know. My reasons are different. I don't care 2381 01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:16,480 Speaker 5: about that, but just like. 2382 01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:19,120 Speaker 2: We're gonna try to get them sponsored by Tate Cookies 2383 01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:20,680 Speaker 2: taint Talk. 2384 01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:24,040 Speaker 3: I have a recipe in my first book where you 2385 01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:26,400 Speaker 3: take a teal and you put it in a in 2386 01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:29,160 Speaker 3: a pint mason jar with some par cooked beans and 2387 01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:30,960 Speaker 3: sausage and bacon, and then you put it in a 2388 01:57:31,080 --> 01:57:32,840 Speaker 3: water bath and cook it in the in the jar 2389 01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:34,360 Speaker 3: like it's really good. 2390 01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:35,440 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's a good way to go. 2391 01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:37,640 Speaker 2: Let me hit you in another one. Yeah, why not 2392 01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:40,000 Speaker 2: just set it in a set it up, put your 2393 01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:42,040 Speaker 2: put your fat and your meat and a glass jar 2394 01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:43,440 Speaker 2: and set the glass yard down in there. 2395 01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:48,360 Speaker 4: Take more fat again, or use the silicon bag silicon. 2396 01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:49,480 Speaker 3: Back it in there pretty good. 2397 01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:53,000 Speaker 4: Let me hit So you did. You did the guts? 2398 01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:57,480 Speaker 2: Mm hm you we covered uh skin, We covered the guts, 2399 01:57:58,160 --> 01:58:01,040 Speaker 2: We covered the legs. You stole the breasts out. 2400 01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,000 Speaker 3: Throw them out. I got on this. 2401 01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:07,160 Speaker 4: You find Jesse's turkeys. Everything's gone with the breast. 2402 01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:08,720 Speaker 7: Not true? 2403 01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:12,800 Speaker 3: That is that my birthday meal. My birthday is mid May, 2404 01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:14,840 Speaker 3: and so it's like it is turkey and do verry 2405 01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:20,880 Speaker 3: cobbler along the lines of suv I think that I 2406 01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:24,640 Speaker 3: the how we cook our Thanksgiving turkey breasts. 2407 01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:25,960 Speaker 2: Wild turkey, wild turkey. 2408 01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:29,880 Speaker 3: I put them, you know, we suvium all kind. 2409 01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:31,800 Speaker 2: Of but like I'm dumb, like yeah, yeah, tell me 2410 01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:32,200 Speaker 2: the whole thing. 2411 01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:35,400 Speaker 3: So you're gonna use what essentially would be poultry seasoning. 2412 01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:39,360 Speaker 3: So you're gonna have time and regano, maybe some garlic, 2413 01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:43,920 Speaker 3: maybe some lemon, rosemary, and then most importantly a little 2414 01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:44,600 Speaker 3: bit of celery. 2415 01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:46,120 Speaker 2: I have a jar of your poultry seasoning. 2416 01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:48,960 Speaker 7: There you go, or fresh we talk. 2417 01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:50,960 Speaker 3: It, it doesn't matter. You can use celery seed, a 2418 01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:53,240 Speaker 3: few celery leaves, just kind of get that in there, 2419 01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:56,160 Speaker 3: and you can just change up your herbs as you 2420 01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:59,120 Speaker 3: want and then season your turkey breast as you want 2421 01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:01,480 Speaker 3: it and put it in the bag and then. 2422 01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:04,640 Speaker 2: You take it to me shortcuts. Here is this in 2423 01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:05,000 Speaker 2: your book. 2424 01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:06,960 Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent in there. 2425 01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:09,120 Speaker 2: Okay, go God the way to go. That's what to 2426 01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:10,880 Speaker 2: make sure people can get it. But it's in the 2427 01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:12,800 Speaker 2: turkey book. It's in the turkey but still walk us 2428 01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:13,040 Speaker 2: through it. 2429 01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2430 01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:15,879 Speaker 2: And so if you're if you're listening and you're like, what, now. 2431 01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:19,320 Speaker 3: Take your turkey breast, season it with those delicious things. 2432 01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:21,680 Speaker 7: So you haven't sliced the turkey breast. 2433 01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:24,480 Speaker 3: No, No, it's a whole turkey breast. Got it could 2434 01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:26,880 Speaker 3: be tenderloin on if you want. I usually remove the 2435 01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:30,400 Speaker 3: tender loins, yep. But uh. And so I've got that 2436 01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:33,440 Speaker 3: whole turkey breast in there, and then seal that up 2437 01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:35,680 Speaker 3: to three days before you're going to cook it, and 2438 01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:37,720 Speaker 3: then just let it sit and then all that season 2439 01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:41,920 Speaker 3: will basically act as a Brian And then I cook 2440 01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:45,120 Speaker 3: that in a water bath at one hundred and forty 2441 01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:48,960 Speaker 3: degrees for three hours on the nose and it is 2442 01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:52,600 Speaker 3: phenomenal from end to end, perfectly cooked. 2443 01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:56,000 Speaker 6: And you didn't add any fat in there, no oil, 2444 01:59:56,160 --> 01:59:57,040 Speaker 6: no butter. 2445 01:59:56,920 --> 02:00:01,280 Speaker 3: No sometimes that pass Thanksgiving or I've gone and taken 2446 02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:03,440 Speaker 3: that and you can time it. You know, it's like 2447 02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:07,680 Speaker 3: everybody's getting here at twelve thirty, you know, like at nine. 2448 02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:09,400 Speaker 4: Are coming at twelve thirty. 2449 02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:10,800 Speaker 6: That's how they do it. 2450 02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:13,560 Speaker 4: What do you mean at night. 2451 02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:15,240 Speaker 5: Am? 2452 02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:18,280 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, after Thanksgiving lunchtime. 2453 02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:21,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, he just picked a random numbers. You can count 2454 02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:22,960 Speaker 7: back earlier. 2455 02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:27,200 Speaker 3: Hours anyway, is that central time. 2456 02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:31,000 Speaker 7: You were thinking every one of those things? Steve wouldn't 2457 02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:31,800 Speaker 7: have an opinion, I. 2458 02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:35,040 Speaker 2: Know, I know, although I love all this because I 2459 02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:36,960 Speaker 2: was I had the same thing like I would in 2460 02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:38,880 Speaker 2: the end. I'd be like, well, you're supposed to put 2461 02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:39,880 Speaker 2: a bunch of butter in there, but not. 2462 02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:41,960 Speaker 3: You could if you want it. But what I'm what 2463 02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:45,320 Speaker 3: I'm getting to is I have in the past couple 2464 02:00:45,800 --> 02:00:48,360 Speaker 3: Thanksgivings taking it out of the bag and then seared 2465 02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:50,560 Speaker 3: it in a lot of brown butter or just butter 2466 02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:53,240 Speaker 3: in just one side, and it just got a nice 2467 02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:55,080 Speaker 3: lights sere on it. I actually don't want to cook 2468 02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:59,040 Speaker 3: it that much, more like that one on turkey breast. 2469 02:00:59,080 --> 02:01:00,600 Speaker 3: It's just it's so spot on. 2470 02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:06,320 Speaker 10: Three hours, just super moist and then just slice it out, 2471 02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:09,920 Speaker 10: you know, make some turkey stock gravy with giblets and 2472 02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:11,919 Speaker 10: so forth, and then mashed potatoes. 2473 02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:15,600 Speaker 2: You mean giblets? You call them giblets? 2474 02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:17,280 Speaker 3: I guess I do. 2475 02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:22,919 Speaker 2: What do you call them? Randall call them giblets. 2476 02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:25,720 Speaker 3: I think that's right now that I hear it out 2477 02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:27,760 Speaker 3: loud tonight. 2478 02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:32,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were talking about this yesterday. What was the 2479 02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:34,800 Speaker 4: word yesterday that we couldn't figure out? 2480 02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I told my favorite tonight a story. 2481 02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:43,240 Speaker 4: Yeah what was that? We'll never know? 2482 02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:43,680 Speaker 3: I guess. 2483 02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:48,680 Speaker 7: I guess it's nice to hear a non cutlet, non 2484 02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:52,520 Speaker 7: fried turkey breast recipe that they are really high on. 2485 02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:55,600 Speaker 3: No offense to cutlets and turkey breasts. Yeah, I mean 2486 02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:58,560 Speaker 3: are fried turkey. I love fried turkey a lot. 2487 02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, case. 2488 02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:04,320 Speaker 2: Oh you know what here we left one off. Let's 2489 02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:07,000 Speaker 2: say you did your so we got the guts the 2490 02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:08,640 Speaker 2: skin you said. 2491 02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:10,240 Speaker 4: Let's say you pull off the tenders. 2492 02:02:10,880 --> 02:02:13,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, hit me with so now you've pulled 2493 02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:15,919 Speaker 2: your tenders off, not hit me with the tenders. 2494 02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:18,760 Speaker 3: Uh, there's a there's a cool visual trick. Actually this 2495 02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:20,560 Speaker 3: didn't go in the book. I cut it out with 2496 02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:23,000 Speaker 3: a knife. But since now I have you seen the 2497 02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:25,240 Speaker 3: fork trick where you hold you know, it's that there's 2498 02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:29,040 Speaker 3: that really thick sinew that runs down about half of 2499 02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:32,280 Speaker 3: the tenderloin. Grip that in your hand and put a 2500 02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:36,080 Speaker 3: fork behind it, just and so that the two times 2501 02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:41,440 Speaker 3: are around that sinew. So then yes, and then pull 2502 02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:44,640 Speaker 3: your hand back and push the fork forward and it 2503 02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:46,040 Speaker 3: just pulls that entire scene. 2504 02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:47,480 Speaker 4: Was that not in the book? 2505 02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:50,840 Speaker 3: I came to it after, you know, we published that 2506 02:02:50,880 --> 02:02:51,520 Speaker 3: thing pretty quick. 2507 02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:52,880 Speaker 4: I mean, there's a hot tip. 2508 02:02:52,920 --> 02:02:56,040 Speaker 3: Man, it's good, it's really cool, and it gets that 2509 02:02:56,120 --> 02:02:57,840 Speaker 3: seam out of the tenderloin and then you throw that 2510 02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:01,680 Speaker 3: in your stock. I with grilled tender loins, you can 2511 02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:04,400 Speaker 3: kind of weave them onto a skewer to kind of 2512 02:03:04,400 --> 02:03:07,440 Speaker 3: give them more, get them more even Yeah, I would 2513 02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:12,680 Speaker 3: say that or or fried. That's not not not too 2514 02:03:12,720 --> 02:03:13,600 Speaker 3: creative with that. 2515 02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:16,240 Speaker 2: Okay, we're missing anything, were missing any parts of the turkeys? 2516 02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:18,520 Speaker 7: I think I think you should just walk us very 2517 02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:20,839 Speaker 7: quickly through, just like you take those tenne of loins 2518 02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:22,720 Speaker 7: basic turkey nuggets. 2519 02:03:23,080 --> 02:03:27,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I brin them, uh and then Brian a little 2520 02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:30,120 Speaker 3: bit of buttermilk so that you get a really good adhesion. 2521 02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:33,440 Speaker 3: So wet Brian Yep. Yeah, it can be simple. I 2522 02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:35,720 Speaker 3: mean that's you know, it could just be salt and water. 2523 02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:37,840 Speaker 3: Maybe add pickle juice in there, if you like. 2524 02:03:38,040 --> 02:03:39,840 Speaker 2: You to correct them about how it drives you crazy 2525 02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:40,560 Speaker 2: when people say that. 2526 02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:44,840 Speaker 3: Dry Ryan, you remember, yeah, it's fine. 2527 02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:50,320 Speaker 2: Little he maybe is the kind of guy that forgets 2528 02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:50,920 Speaker 2: his pet peet. 2529 02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:56,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's funny. And then a little bit of buttermilk 2530 02:03:57,440 --> 02:03:59,840 Speaker 3: or yogurt whatever, just some kind of thick and then 2531 02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:02,640 Speaker 3: and then it goes into the seasoned flour, which is 2532 02:04:02,680 --> 02:04:06,520 Speaker 3: going to be most importantly. Again, it's going to contain 2533 02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:09,680 Speaker 3: celery seed, Like, out of all all those spices, I 2534 02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:12,240 Speaker 3: think celery is the celery and black pepper kind of 2535 02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:16,320 Speaker 3: the most important thing for poultry in general. That's gonna 2536 02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:20,080 Speaker 3: gives you that KFC. You're like, oh, that's what that was. 2537 02:04:21,080 --> 02:04:24,040 Speaker 7: It's always like, what's the key to getting it? Really? 2538 02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:30,120 Speaker 7: Like that thick? You know, batter on there? Like I 2539 02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:32,320 Speaker 7: feel like I'm in there and it's all buttermilky, And 2540 02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:35,720 Speaker 7: then do I put them all my basket first and 2541 02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:38,040 Speaker 7: drop it all at once? Are you going straight out 2542 02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:40,120 Speaker 7: of that buttermilk and dropping it? 2543 02:04:40,640 --> 02:04:43,720 Speaker 3: Let them sit. Let I'm sitting the refrigerator for twenty 2544 02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:47,720 Speaker 3: thirty minutes, hour or two, doesn't matter. You let them sit. Also, 2545 02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:51,320 Speaker 3: as you you've got your your your dreads, your flour, 2546 02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:54,280 Speaker 3: and maybe a little buttermilk, maybe drizzle a little bit, 2547 02:04:54,280 --> 02:04:56,680 Speaker 3: so you get these little beads in there. And then 2548 02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:58,680 Speaker 3: what that's going to do when that adheres, You're not 2549 02:04:58,720 --> 02:05:00,600 Speaker 3: just going to have a thin layer of flower on there, 2550 02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:02,320 Speaker 3: but you're also gonna have these little beads of like 2551 02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:05,000 Speaker 3: buttermilky flower. So they kind of give you a little 2552 02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:08,800 Speaker 3: more of those like crackling textures. Oh, a little drizzle 2553 02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:11,760 Speaker 3: of that in there, bred them up really well, and 2554 02:05:11,800 --> 02:05:14,240 Speaker 3: then just set them in the refrigerator, get him cold 2555 02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:16,120 Speaker 3: in like twenty minutes. And then when that. 2556 02:05:16,640 --> 02:05:18,520 Speaker 2: When it gets kind of doughey, you don't mind that. 2557 02:05:19,080 --> 02:05:19,960 Speaker 3: No, it's gonna be fine. 2558 02:05:20,440 --> 02:05:21,680 Speaker 2: You don't mind it getting a little doey. 2559 02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:22,520 Speaker 3: No, I don't mind. 2560 02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:25,760 Speaker 2: You know what my kid's been doing. He just makes 2561 02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,440 Speaker 2: a god awful mess where he does it. But he 2562 02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:31,320 Speaker 2: cuts the turkey breasts and makes a little a bunch 2563 02:05:31,360 --> 02:05:34,280 Speaker 2: of little tenders and then he just keeps doing it. 2564 02:05:35,560 --> 02:05:40,240 Speaker 2: Dredge flower, dredge flower. Because he's looking to try to 2565 02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:42,400 Speaker 2: build up like a long John Silver. 2566 02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:46,320 Speaker 3: I feel like you're gonna get some like doughiness on, dude. 2567 02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:48,920 Speaker 2: And then he drops him in the deep frar and Dude, 2568 02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:52,839 Speaker 2: that oil is so full of just all that garbage. 2569 02:05:52,920 --> 02:06:00,960 Speaker 3: Man, and he one round and walks away. I would go, 2570 02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:02,800 Speaker 3: I would go one round on the on the dresh. 2571 02:06:04,360 --> 02:06:08,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you learned it on the internet. That's awesome. 2572 02:06:09,320 --> 02:06:13,720 Speaker 2: I'm hungry, okay, man, the Turkey Book, the Hog Book. 2573 02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:15,200 Speaker 2: What's next? 2574 02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:18,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean I say that in all honesty. 2575 02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:20,480 Speaker 3: I've batting around some ideas, and you know, everybody likes 2576 02:06:20,520 --> 02:06:21,839 Speaker 3: to pontificate on what. 2577 02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:26,920 Speaker 2: You know what? It would be a book, the deer book. 2578 02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:28,680 Speaker 3: Right, it would be always I get a lot of 2579 02:06:28,760 --> 02:06:30,400 Speaker 3: quests for our ad but I don't think there's a 2580 02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:30,960 Speaker 3: book worth. 2581 02:06:32,240 --> 02:06:34,560 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be worried about there being a with you. 2582 02:06:34,560 --> 02:06:36,480 Speaker 2: You'll find a book worth, but I feel like you 2583 02:06:36,560 --> 02:06:38,400 Speaker 2: might not find the audience. 2584 02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:42,800 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. The marketability of that would be more very 2585 02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:43,960 Speaker 3: very specific, dude. 2586 02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:44,440 Speaker 4: I feel like that. 2587 02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:47,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, But if you keep going like the way you're 2588 02:06:47,480 --> 02:06:49,520 Speaker 6: doing it, people are going to be like, I need 2589 02:06:49,520 --> 02:06:52,920 Speaker 6: the series. Yeah, oh right, they're beautiful and it's like 2590 02:06:53,560 --> 02:06:54,800 Speaker 6: Turkey Deer. 2591 02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:56,720 Speaker 2: Or you could do the fish book bow Headway. 2592 02:06:56,840 --> 02:06:59,640 Speaker 3: I like fish a lot, bullhead whale book. 2593 02:07:00,080 --> 02:07:04,200 Speaker 2: The fish book, you'd probably want to yeah, like for 2594 02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:05,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean you have you have a 2595 02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:08,120 Speaker 2: great sense what to do, like you know, hogs in 2596 02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:10,240 Speaker 2: and out. There's a lot of misinformation about hogs. It's 2597 02:07:10,280 --> 02:07:13,480 Speaker 2: a great book. Turkey book. You got a lot of experience. 2598 02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:15,800 Speaker 2: I mean you have a ton of venice experience. There's 2599 02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:18,720 Speaker 2: a ton of interests America's deer people are hunting them 2600 02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:20,200 Speaker 2: from top to bottom, side to side. 2601 02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:23,640 Speaker 3: The Deer Book, it's true. I will say it's the 2602 02:07:23,680 --> 02:07:26,640 Speaker 3: front runner. I just want to be noncommittal in this. 2603 02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:28,480 Speaker 2: Because you could be cute and'd be like the Squirrel Book. 2604 02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:29,720 Speaker 2: But that's just cute. 2605 02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:33,160 Speaker 7: You're just being cute, you know, and a little too niche. 2606 02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:37,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you'd be squirrel. But it's like representative of 2607 02:07:37,560 --> 02:07:38,360 Speaker 6: the rodent book. 2608 02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:39,040 Speaker 4: Right. 2609 02:07:39,120 --> 02:07:42,120 Speaker 6: You can do like the Beaver's Muskrats, the Beaver Book 2610 02:07:42,280 --> 02:07:46,360 Speaker 6: Nutria about that. Yep, people would love it. I got 2611 02:07:46,360 --> 02:07:47,520 Speaker 6: something Jesse and I are doing. 2612 02:07:47,600 --> 02:07:48,600 Speaker 2: Please tell me about it. 2613 02:07:49,200 --> 02:07:53,080 Speaker 6: This will be super fun. Uh, buddy of mine. Eric 2614 02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:57,120 Speaker 6: Johansson out in South Dakota. He's he wouldn't like me 2615 02:07:57,160 --> 02:07:59,000 Speaker 6: saying this, but he's kind of like a poster child 2616 02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:03,280 Speaker 6: for it. Wou'd be like quote unquote progressive farming practices 2617 02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:10,960 Speaker 6: these days, so real heavy on you know, easements for 2618 02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:16,320 Speaker 6: wetlands and native grasses and and stuff like that, right, 2619 02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:19,440 Speaker 6: but which in turn happens to be really really good 2620 02:08:19,520 --> 02:08:24,200 Speaker 6: for wildlife. So he's got on the family farm out there, 2621 02:08:25,160 --> 02:08:31,080 Speaker 6: he's got just an unbelievable wild pheasant hunting situation and 2622 02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:35,440 Speaker 6: lodging and stuff, and and he's a big believer as 2623 02:08:35,440 --> 02:08:37,800 Speaker 6: am I in like the habitat work of pheasants forever. 2624 02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:43,000 Speaker 6: So we and and Jesse included here have come together 2625 02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:46,960 Speaker 6: to we're gonna do a hunt that we're auctioning off 2626 02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:51,360 Speaker 6: at Pheasant Fest this year as a fundraiser for Habitat. 2627 02:08:51,800 --> 02:08:53,680 Speaker 6: And yeah, so we're gonna. 2628 02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:57,280 Speaker 2: So the fund raised money goes to where two pheasants 2629 02:08:57,280 --> 02:09:00,240 Speaker 2: forever in the quad, the and the then the and 2630 02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:03,840 Speaker 2: you're gonna hunt this property that is a demonstration of a. 2631 02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:07,400 Speaker 6: Lot of really good practices. Yeah, and you two both 2632 02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:10,720 Speaker 6: gonna hunt. Yeah, We're both gonna hunt. Eric's gonna hunt. 2633 02:09:10,720 --> 02:09:16,080 Speaker 6: I'm bringing snort out there. Eric has one of Snort's 2634 02:09:16,360 --> 02:09:22,400 Speaker 6: cousins too, so that's fun and super cute obviously, but it. 2635 02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:23,960 Speaker 2: Days the winner get the hunt. 2636 02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:28,040 Speaker 6: It's I think it's three days. Uh hunt for two people. 2637 02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:28,920 Speaker 4: Uh. 2638 02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:32,160 Speaker 6: Jesse's gonna be, you know, leading the cooking, but I've 2639 02:09:32,320 --> 02:09:35,840 Speaker 6: been emphatic about the fact that he's not shackled with cooking. 2640 02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:40,040 Speaker 6: I am there to help as much as possible as allowed, 2641 02:09:40,480 --> 02:09:43,000 Speaker 6: so I can learn stuff too. And then yeah, we're 2642 02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:47,800 Speaker 6: gonna hunt lodging and you just got to get get 2643 02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:52,200 Speaker 6: your butt there. But it is a really, really incredible 2644 02:09:52,600 --> 02:09:54,560 Speaker 6: I've been lucky enough to go out there and hunt 2645 02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:56,800 Speaker 6: with Eric a couple of times, and he always says, 2646 02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:01,520 Speaker 6: your dog's invited if you would like to come, that's okay. 2647 02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:03,880 Speaker 2: What's up with a thousand dollars I'm seeing a note 2648 02:10:03,880 --> 02:10:07,040 Speaker 2: about a thousand dollars gift card? Yeah, not related related. 2649 02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:10,240 Speaker 6: No, that's related. So then first light, we're throwing in 2650 02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:12,600 Speaker 6: a thousand dollars gift card, so to the winners, to 2651 02:10:12,680 --> 02:10:14,960 Speaker 6: the winners yep, so five hundred a piece to get 2652 02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:18,240 Speaker 6: get decked out. Just grease, grease the wheels a little bit, 2653 02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:22,320 Speaker 6: and I'm gonna be available to help you with getting 2654 02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:25,720 Speaker 6: outfitted in your upland stuff from first light. 2655 02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:27,920 Speaker 4: So thanks guys, I'll be fun. 2656 02:10:28,120 --> 02:10:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've already started. Uh. We shot a few Pheasants 2657 02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:33,560 Speaker 3: this year, and I always started playing with the menu. 2658 02:10:33,880 --> 02:10:36,800 Speaker 6: Nice yeah sighs. 2659 02:10:37,200 --> 02:10:39,080 Speaker 2: Yes, what about the game? 2660 02:10:39,120 --> 02:10:42,400 Speaker 3: Bird book could be I love poultry a lot, so 2661 02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:43,960 Speaker 3: we can. 2662 02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:47,800 Speaker 4: Just go with bird Book, the Bird Book an economy 2663 02:10:47,800 --> 02:10:48,360 Speaker 4: of dialogue. 2664 02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, do the Deer Book because I want that book. 2665 02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:56,720 Speaker 3: People are going to be like blowing me up right now, 2666 02:10:56,720 --> 02:10:57,840 Speaker 3: what are you gonna write the Deer Book? 2667 02:10:58,080 --> 02:11:00,680 Speaker 6: Well, hopefully you have all these names. Is already locked 2668 02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:01,720 Speaker 6: down somewhere and. 2669 02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:03,520 Speaker 2: I would kick that book from front to back if 2670 02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:09,160 Speaker 2: you did it right. Remember that movie where that. 2671 02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:11,839 Speaker 7: Gal Julia Julia. 2672 02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, a book called Stephen Jesse, Stephen Jesse where I 2673 02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:24,400 Speaker 2: cook all this stuff? Who is the actor Kevin ba. 2674 02:11:31,680 --> 02:11:32,360 Speaker 4: Mann? 2675 02:11:33,040 --> 02:11:33,440 Speaker 3: All right? 2676 02:11:33,680 --> 02:11:34,200 Speaker 4: Beautiful? 2677 02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:37,720 Speaker 2: Or I also get the jackass guy? 2678 02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:39,680 Speaker 7: Oh? Uh Steve? 2679 02:11:40,160 --> 02:11:44,560 Speaker 2: No, Johnny, Yeah, I've checked in lately, though I don't. 2680 02:11:44,600 --> 02:11:46,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm older and he is sometimes No, 2681 02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:47,360 Speaker 2: he's way gray. 2682 02:11:47,560 --> 02:11:49,560 Speaker 7: He's great out hard. 2683 02:11:49,480 --> 02:11:54,240 Speaker 2: Years those boys, Thanks coming on many thanks for having 2684 02:11:54,320 --> 02:12:01,680 Speaker 2: me Hog Book Turkey book, dear book, get to Are 2685 02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:02,560 Speaker 2: you to bundle them. 2686 02:12:04,120 --> 02:12:05,160 Speaker 4: When the Deer book comes out? 2687 02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:07,960 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, you should, you should, you should maybe 2688 02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:10,040 Speaker 2: do you have? You should maybe do a version where 2689 02:12:10,080 --> 02:12:11,440 Speaker 2: you can just get him in a little box like 2690 02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:12,360 Speaker 2: the pair. 2691 02:12:12,640 --> 02:12:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll wait until that third one comes. 2692 02:12:14,320 --> 02:12:15,240 Speaker 4: Oh, then you do a box. 2693 02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:16,720 Speaker 2: Good luck man. 2694 02:12:17,320 --> 02:12:19,879 Speaker 4: When you go to Austin, Texas and everybody eventually finds. 2695 02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:26,640 Speaker 2: Themselves in Austin, Texas, go to die doe. Unbelievable dining experience. 2696 02:12:26,760 --> 02:12:32,360 Speaker 3: Man again, I mean it literally means from the two 2697 02:12:32,440 --> 02:12:34,560 Speaker 3: It's part of an Italian phrase. It means from the 2698 02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:36,720 Speaker 3: two kingdoms of nature, choose food with care. 2699 02:12:37,520 --> 02:12:39,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny. We took an uber when 2700 02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:41,120 Speaker 2: we left. Guys like, how do you say that? 2701 02:12:44,720 --> 02:12:46,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, you should go on and ask the owner. 2702 02:12:49,080 --> 02:12:50,760 Speaker 2: It's like it's die do it, yeah, die do it. 2703 02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:57,720 Speaker 2: Unbelievable dining experience and not stuffy, man, No, not stuffy. 2704 02:12:57,840 --> 02:12:59,280 Speaker 3: It's meant to be a neighborhood restaurant. 2705 02:12:59,600 --> 02:13:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. And the waiters and waitresses. The waitress they don't 2706 02:13:02,720 --> 02:13:05,120 Speaker 2: act weird. The wait staff doesn't act weird. They don't 2707 02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:09,560 Speaker 2: like whisper and sit with you start telling you a 2708 02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:11,520 Speaker 2: bunch of ship you don't want to hear. It's just like, 2709 02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:14,120 Speaker 2: it's just a great dining experience. 2710 02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:16,120 Speaker 3: Man, they are the backbone of it. 2711 02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:18,440 Speaker 2: Well, what I have tonight, they don't. It's like they 2712 02:13:18,480 --> 02:13:20,280 Speaker 2: don't do all that garbage my friends. 2713 02:13:20,760 --> 02:13:22,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a delightful little dish. 2714 02:13:22,920 --> 02:13:26,440 Speaker 2: Well tonight I have from my friends at the winery. 2715 02:13:27,680 --> 02:13:31,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, oh my god, it's cool. 2716 02:13:31,440 --> 02:13:33,240 Speaker 2: They're cool. They come up and take your order and 2717 02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:37,280 Speaker 2: talk to you like you're a person in a restaurant, 2718 02:13:40,760 --> 02:13:44,320 Speaker 2: not like you're like an online like call for company 2719 02:13:44,680 --> 02:13:48,920 Speaker 2: one eight hundred number or something. It's a great It 2720 02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:50,280 Speaker 2: is a great restaurant. 2721 02:13:50,840 --> 02:13:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. I like eating there. 2722 02:13:53,840 --> 02:13:55,840 Speaker 2: And if you see Jesse eating their come up and 2723 02:13:55,840 --> 02:14:01,600 Speaker 2: be like, dude, shit you be working easy as all right. 2724 02:14:01,600 --> 02:14:03,600 Speaker 4: Thanks man, appreciate it, Thank you, Thanks Jessing. 2725 02:14:03,680 --> 02:14:03,880 Speaker 3: Thanks