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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Sitting

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Speaker 1: in for Clay and Buck today syndicated radio personality Michael Berry,

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Speaker 1: and Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: As you put together your Christmas presents and head to

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Speaker 2: the stores to take back the returns and clear away

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Speaker 2: the tree and all the wrapping paper of twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three and prepare for twenty twenty four, so too, we

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Speaker 2: will take a look at the year that was and

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Speaker 2: begin discussing twenty twenty four, which will be a very

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Speaker 2: very eventful year in politics, culture, and America. In just

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Speaker 2: twenty days, less than three weeks, on Monday, January fifteenth,

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Speaker 2: the Iowa Caucus will be held, just twenty days away.

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Speaker 2: If it feels earlier than usual, it's because the last

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Speaker 2: contested Republican primary caucus we had, or Republican caucus we had,

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Speaker 2: was in twenty sixteen, and it was in the month

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Speaker 2: of February February first, when ran Paul Mike Huckabee and

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Speaker 2: Rick Santorum didn't farewell. They dropped out and the field narrowed.

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Speaker 2: Eight days after January fifteenth, in New Hampshire, on January

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Speaker 2: twenty third, they'll have the first primary Iowa having been

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Speaker 2: a caucus two weeks later. February eighth, Nevada will hold

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Speaker 2: their caucus, as will the Virgin Islands February twenty fourth,

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Speaker 2: the South Carolina primary February twenty seventh, the Michigan primary

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Speaker 2: March second, Idaho and Missouri will have their caucuses March third,

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Speaker 2: the DC primary March fourth, North Dakota Caucus, and then

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Speaker 2: the big Day, the single most important day of the

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Speaker 2: entire Republican presidential primary, Super Tuesday Caucus is in three states,

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Speaker 2: the last American, Samoa, and Utah primaries in thirteen states.

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Speaker 2: On that day, eight hundred seventy four delegates will be

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Speaker 2: up for grabs. To put that into perspective, there are

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Speaker 2: about two thousand, four hundred twenty nine total delegates, so

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Speaker 2: it takes about a one thousand, one hundred twenty five

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Speaker 2: delegates to win the Republican primary. So the magic number

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Speaker 2: is oney one hundred and twenty five. There will be

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Speaker 2: eight hundred seventy four up for grabs on one day,

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Speaker 2: two thirds of what you need. On one day. There

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Speaker 2: will have been just short of two hundred already up

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Speaker 2: for grabs across Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: So on the morning of March sixth, Wednesday, March sixth,

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Speaker 2: we will wake up very likely having our Republican nominee.

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Speaker 2: If not by the end of March, within the next

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Speaker 2: three weeks, another seven hundred ten will be ups meaning

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Speaker 2: that there are only about four hundred delegates out of

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Speaker 2: the twenty four hundred delegates up for grabs across April,

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Speaker 2: May and June. So my theory is by March sixth,

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Speaker 2: the day after Super Tuesday, we either officially or de

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Speaker 2: facto have our Republican nominee. And I would argue we

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Speaker 2: probably have our Republican nominee already. Now that causes some

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Speaker 2: people to be happy or to scream at the radio

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Speaker 2: because oh, you're promoting Trump. Not at all. I'm Colin Balls,

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Speaker 2: and Strike says, I see it. I wasn't a Trump guy.

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Speaker 2: I was a huge Ted Cruz guy. In twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: I introduced Ted Cruz the night before the Iowa caucus,

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Speaker 2: which who remembers he won. He narrowly defeated Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Ben Carson had a pretty good showing as well, and

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Speaker 2: that catapulted Ted Cruz into a race with Donald Trump that,

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Speaker 2: but for a lot of other people being involved, might

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Speaker 2: have even been closer. But the Trump juggernaut something I

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Speaker 2: did not understand. I didn't see it coming. I didn't

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Speaker 2: think Trump was for real. I thought it was a show.

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Speaker 2: I thought he'd spent too many years as a Democrat.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was too much of an opportunist. I

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Speaker 2: didn't believe he would govern as a con conservative slash libertarian,

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Speaker 2: which is what I would like to see of the government.

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Speaker 2: Was he a perfect president?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Did he govern much better than I expected? And pretty

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Speaker 2: darnwell yes? Yes. And I think that a lot of

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Speaker 2: people that started where I did, which were sort of

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Speaker 2: Ted CRU's conservative Republicans, grew to like Donald Trump. A

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Speaker 2: have turned and become descentist people. And we'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in just a moment. So my theory is that

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Speaker 2: by March sixth, we probably have our nominee. If you

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Speaker 2: go to a lot of the sites that are doing

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Speaker 2: the polls now and you look at the polls, the

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Speaker 2: there's a greater likelihood that Trump will be the Republican

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Speaker 2: we'll get to that in a later segment. I've seen

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Speaker 2: a lot written and spoken about the fact that DeSantis

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Speaker 2: run a poor campaign. Jeff Rowe, who was a big

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Speaker 2: ted Cruz guy, was head of the pack, this very

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Speaker 2: are people criticizing the pack. There are people criticizing Dysantis.

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Speaker 2: They quote the things that the Trump crowd criticizes DeSantis

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Speaker 2: the best governor in the country by far, and almost

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Speaker 2: everybody in the country on the Republican side of the

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Speaker 2: isle especially and even some Democrats agreed with that until

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Speaker 2: he ran against Trump, and that's when he had to

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Speaker 2: be pilloried. And I understand it. But the real reason

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Speaker 2: Trump's going to be the nominee is not because DeSantis

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Speaker 2: ran a poor campaign, and I don't know that DeSantis

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Speaker 2: running a great campaign would have made a huge difference.

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Speaker 2: When Trump steps out of the debates, I pondered, I

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Speaker 2: spent a lot of time thinking if you remember he

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Speaker 2: episode with him and Tucker Carlson, and I remember thinking

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Speaker 2: what a gamble that was, because he's not showing up

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Speaker 2: at the debate. So much of Trump's persona, so much

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Speaker 2: back down from a fight. How does he justify that

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Speaker 2: he's not at the debates? I not being at the

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Speaker 2: of him, he's pretty quick with a quip, including putting

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Speaker 2: Chris Christy in his spacious space. But the reason for

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Speaker 2: the Trump juggernaut in twenty twenty four, and this is

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Speaker 2: I think where the political class gets it wrong is

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Speaker 2: the idea that a great campaign can change people's minds,

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Speaker 2: That the political class, that the operatives, that the consultants,

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Speaker 2: that the influencers and talking heads and any number of

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Speaker 2: other people can change people's minds. I think it's dead wrong.

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Speaker 2: I think the technology has democratized and pluralized the process

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Speaker 2: such that you've got a lot of influencers don't even

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Speaker 2: have more influence than perhaps DC and the big pack

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Speaker 2: not top down. And that's the difference between the Republican

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Speaker 2: into that now. The failings of our institutions have hit people,

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Speaker 2: whether directly or the perception of which would be indirectly,

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Speaker 2: not just in the big cities. The first is that

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Speaker 2: government is failing to protect Americans. The second that government

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Speaker 2: attacks and harasses everyday citizens, the third that government is

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Speaker 2: corrupt and helps only their friends. And finally that Republican leaders,

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Speaker 2: elected officials and party leaders, corporations and influence leaders are

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Speaker 2: considered weak and self dealing. We'll get to those one

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Speaker 2: failing to protect Americans, and I'll be with you the

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Speaker 2: is go through some of these at greater length, but

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Speaker 2: get you thinking and to understand that the reason Trump

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Speaker 2: will win, and whether you agree, whether you like Trump

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Speaker 2: or not, the reason Trump will win is because Trump

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Speaker 2: is perceived. You can say, well, he's not any good

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Speaker 2: or he's the best. Trump is perceived as the guy

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Speaker 2: who will best address this for each individual voter. Government

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Speaker 2: failing to protect Americans On May eleventh. The headline was

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Speaker 2: title forty two has expired. That meant that our border

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Speaker 2: that was already wide open, was now more porous, inviting

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Speaker 2: more people, and inviting is the word. They're not just coming,

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Speaker 2: they're being invited. We're seeing folks who are arriving with

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Speaker 2: they're given food. Why wouldn't you leave the poverty of

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Speaker 2: your country to come to all these things welcoming you.

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Speaker 2: This isn't asylum, This isn't natural. This is far worse,

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Speaker 2: exponentially worse than it's ever been. You've got crime on

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Speaker 2: the Soros back district attorneys. You can see it in retail, theft,

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Speaker 2: February third that the Biden administration announced they had shot down.

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Speaker 2: You've got a tacks abroad, Americans attacked on October seventh,

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Speaker 2: visiting at Israel. You have hostages taken who are American citizens,

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Speaker 2: That's a government for hire that doesn't protect you and me,

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Speaker 2: and Americans know it. You've got Americans in the Middle

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Speaker 2: yesterday because Irani backed forces in Iraq have been attacking

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Speaker 2: Americans killed during the Afghan withdrawal, one of the worst

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Speaker 2: busts of the Biden administration. All right, coming up, I

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Speaker 2: want to talk about the mood in the country for

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Speaker 2: which Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley and no one else

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Speaker 2: the Trump presidency and why he is perceived as the

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Speaker 2: guy who would be the best leader for the country

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Speaker 2: on November fifth, when the election is held. Lots more

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Speaker 2: to go on, Michael Berry. I'll be in for Clay

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Speaker 2: and Buck the entire week.

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Speaker 1: He's Buck Sexton, He's Clay Travels together. They're breathing sanity

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Speaker 1: into an insane world.

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Speaker 2: Michael Berry in for Clay and Buck all week. I

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Speaker 2: want to start with how Republicans will choose the nominee

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Speaker 2: to be on the ballot on November fifth. I don't

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Speaker 2: believe it will be against Joe Biden. I think there's

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Speaker 2: a better than fifty odds that Joe Biden doesn't make

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Speaker 2: you think Biden's in trouble, if you've got five arguments

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Speaker 2: me the Democrat grand poobas fifty they are around him,

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Speaker 2: I'm Michael Berry in for Clay and Buck all weeks.

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Speaker 2: I know you know this, but a black swan event

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Speaker 2: to tell, how many lies were told about what happened.

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Speaker 2: You've now got members of law enforcement coming forward. You've

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Speaker 2: silent anymore. The narrative doesn't hold up. They have to

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Speaker 2: protecting us elon Musk investigations. Here was the guy who

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Speaker 2: Then he takes over Twitter, allows for free speech, which

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Speaker 2: is the enemy of the left, and now his businesses

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Speaker 2: are being investigated like some third world country. This sounds

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Speaker 2: like something Putin would do. Gun control. Gun control is

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Speaker 2: law abiding citizens. Gun control doesn't stop the thug from

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Speaker 2: The COVID mandates firings, shutdowns, the government harassing and eating

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Speaker 2: to this in just a moment, the indictments against Trump,

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Speaker 2: the March thirtieth first indictment, which was a state indictment.

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Speaker 2: Then we went to the federal indictments. And now what

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Speaker 2: need to panic over. We'll get to all of that

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Speaker 2: coming up. I'm Michael Berry in for Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 2: I'll be here all week.

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Speaker 2: in for playing Buck all week, and let's start with

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Speaker 2: a call. Let's go to Paul in Minnesota, Europe. Sir

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Speaker 2: welcome to play a buck shows.

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Speaker 3: Thanks. So, I just want to try to weigh in

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Speaker 3: on why I think so many people see Trump is

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Speaker 3: the only choice. You know, we're metaphorically and literally surrounded

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Speaker 3: by the enemy right now. The Democrat Party has gone

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Speaker 3: all in fascist, and we see, you know, when you're surrounded,

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Speaker 3: you're you're going to find the guy that's not afraid

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Speaker 3: to charge the metaphorical machine gun nests. And we don't

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Speaker 3: see Haley or DeSantis or any of the rest of

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Speaker 3: them as that guy. The first day that Trump takes office,

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Speaker 3: that that does happen, the Democrats are going to come

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Speaker 3: out of with one lawsuit after another to try to

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Speaker 3: him stream his presidency just like they did the first time.

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Speaker 3: It's going to take bold actions on Trump's part, And

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Speaker 3: what I mean by that is letting these active as

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Speaker 3: judges know that they're not going to interfere in his

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Speaker 3: administration's attempt to steal the border, to deport these illegals,

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Speaker 3: and on down the line as far as issues go.

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Speaker 3: If that means declaring a national state of emergency, whatever

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Speaker 3: he's got to do, I think Trump is the only

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Speaker 3: one with the cajones to actually do it, and that's

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Speaker 3: why we see him as the only choice.

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Speaker 2: Whether that's true or not. What's important is that is

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Speaker 2: the perception, and the perception is what will drive people

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Speaker 2: to vote. But you make an interesting point, and this

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Speaker 2: them are former Trump folks from sixteen. Some of them

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Speaker 2: served with Trump, some of them supported most of them

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Speaker 2: those folks arguing over policy issues and what Trump did

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Speaker 2: animal instinct. And I think that most voters are not

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Speaker 2: how someone voted on this or that issue. I think

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Speaker 2: that most voters get a gut feeling, and there's nothing

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Speaker 2: wrong with that, because they're running their bakery or patrolling

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Speaker 2: the streets, or raising their kids or teaching school. And

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Speaker 2: I think Trump wins that