Speaker 1: The second date update.
Speaker 2: If you're like me, you've wondered is it possible to
Speaker 2: be too smooth on a date?
Speaker 3: I've been there.
Speaker 2: I'm putting hair moose on places where hair isn't that smooth?
Speaker 4: Are you stick?
Speaker 2: Apparently one of our listeners, Cam believes that may have
Speaker 2: been his problem. Too smooth during this day, Cam, you
Speaker 2: moos in right now?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 5: No, no, thank god.
Speaker 1: Because I am moosey goosey up in here. I am
Speaker 1: ready to hear the story. But Brook's getting too turned
Speaker 1: on by it. That's the problem. So Cam, you think
Speaker 1: you're so smooth? Huh smooth as.
Speaker 5: That's actually the problem is that she kept asking me like,
Speaker 5: are you a player? Are you so smooth? You pick
Speaker 5: up girls all the time? And I couldn't vincent. I
Speaker 5: was like, well, no, I met you. I like you,
Speaker 5: we had a connection, you would Well, I don't know,
Speaker 5: she's just met the wrong people. She just kept asking, well, maybe.
Speaker 4: Maybe you're more debonair and smooth than you realize.
Speaker 2: The sounds like a player to me, But I mean,
Speaker 2: it's interesting that you even had that conversation.
Speaker 1: How did you meet this girl? I'm assuming.
Speaker 5: Well her name is Ashley?
Speaker 3: Okay, and we met.
Speaker 5: At a food truck.
Speaker 1: Yes, how did that happen?
Speaker 4: Jose, You're going to get on a tangent.
Speaker 5: Well, I was out of the bars with some friends
Speaker 5: and we're getting kind of late. So I go to
Speaker 5: this food truck and I'm waiting for my nachos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's always Mexican food after the bars, like
Speaker 2: smooth boys do with their nachos.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know Alexis would fall in love with you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's smart.
Speaker 5: So then there's this girl and she's dancing to this
Speaker 5: street musicians playing guitar. But she's really into the music,
Speaker 5: and so I just give her a hard time. I
Speaker 5: start picking on her. I'm like, wow, you must be
Speaker 5: really wasted because she likes to dance. Well, I mean
Speaker 5: it was a street guitar player. It wasn't like this
Speaker 5: was a rock show.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't call that smooth.
Speaker 3: What's not smooth?
Speaker 1: Street performer and criticizing someone's.
Speaker 5: Dancing, Yeah, exactly, I'm not smooth, Okay.
Speaker 4: But she liked it, she liked be and made fun
Speaker 4: of well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so she picks on me back. She's like, no,
Speaker 5: I'm not wasted. I actually like good music. Don't you
Speaker 5: like this music. So it turns out we start talking.
Speaker 5: We end up at a picnic table with her friends,
Speaker 5: and then her friend starts complaining I want to go home,
Speaker 5: and we were having a good time, So her friend
Speaker 5: goes home. She and I actually go out for more
Speaker 5: drinks and we end up at my place.
Speaker 2: Wow, she's willing to ditch her friend group just to
Speaker 2: hang out with you.
Speaker 1: I'm back on you being on the smooth training and honestly.
Speaker 5: Well, the truth is, her friend group actually kind of
Speaker 5: ditched her because they were the ones that want to
Speaker 5: go home.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's always one in the girlfriend group that is like.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no self control.
Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously we'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, How did it go back at your place?
Speaker 5: Very well? I thought until I woke up the next
Speaker 5: morning and she was gone, and I can't get a
Speaker 5: hold of her since then. But like I said, the
Speaker 5: only thing I can think of is her main theme
Speaker 5: of the night was like, how often you pick up girls?
Speaker 5: Are you a player? Is this what you always do?
Speaker 4: It kind of makes sense why she would think that now,
Speaker 4: because you picked her up and like, you guys went
Speaker 4: back to your place.
Speaker 5: Well, no, I don't do that all the time, and
Speaker 5: I didn't just have a goal, like we went and
Speaker 5: had drinks first, like it just happened. Actually, I know.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like the situation she's probably feeling.
Speaker 6: I would only think that if like, at your house,
Speaker 6: did you have something that screamed player, Like extra toothbrushes
Speaker 6: A ton of them are like brought up.
Speaker 1: That's actually a good point, you know that, Or an
Speaker 1: extra room labeled for the girls. Yeah, do you have
Speaker 1: anything like that at your place?
Speaker 5: No? I would think an extra toothbrush would scream wife, but.
Speaker 4: It's not used.
Speaker 1: Don't you want to brush your teeth?
Speaker 3: I'm saving that for my wife.
Speaker 4: It's like I had pictures of my wedding all around.
Speaker 5: But I told her like, look, I'm just a bachelor.
Speaker 5: I'm not dating anyone else. We happen to beat it
Speaker 5: a food truck and we just hit it off, and
Speaker 5: so I'm like, what is going on? Why did she
Speaker 5: leave early and disappear? It's so weird a lot of
Speaker 5: times her axe get.
Speaker 1: To cheat it on her big player, So it could
Speaker 1: be other stuff, is.
Speaker 4: Right, It could be uncomfortable to wake up the next
Speaker 4: morning when you're like completely sober, and some people just
Speaker 4: want to scurry out of it anything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, No, I totally understand that. But look now
Speaker 5: it's been four days and you at least text somebody back,
Speaker 5: like I've been texting her and she won't even respond.
Speaker 4: Okay, but you really, like you're saying you could have
Speaker 4: seen more than just one night of fun.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I thought, you know, we were great together.
Speaker 1: He probably doesn't believe you. Yes, it sounds like already
Speaker 1: she's like, no way, this guy's not well. We'll try
Speaker 1: and call her and change her mind.
Speaker 2: That you're not smooth and you're not cool. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: are just a totally average, regular.
Speaker 4: Type of Yeah, nobody wants you've never even.
Speaker 1: Been with a woman before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is more like Coldie Locks and the Three Bears.
Speaker 5: The porridge is too hot, the porge is too cold.
Speaker 5: Let's just keep it in the middle.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, we're going full extreme one way or the other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not a virgin, but one time he got to
Speaker 1: second base.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wait, yeah, let's just call her. We'll see what she
Speaker 1: has to say. For your second date update.
Speaker 2: Right after this second date update, we're in the middle
Speaker 2: of a second date update. It's broken Jeffrey in the morning,
Speaker 2: having kind of an interesting discussion in the studio. Is
Speaker 2: it possible to tell if a guy is a play
Speaker 2: you're right away? Like, just in general when you meet
Speaker 2: what are the signs that could point to that? Because
Speaker 2: maybe we could figure this out before we even call her.
Speaker 4: Oh if he if our listener is a player, because
Speaker 4: why she thinks he.
Speaker 3: Is our listener?
Speaker 2: Cam was accused of being a player by the girl
Speaker 2: he went out with Ashley the other night. And I'm wondering, Brooke, like,
Speaker 2: what are the signs that tell you a guy is
Speaker 2: a player?
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 4: Sane? I would say like using any sort of pet.
Speaker 1: Name right like Beethoven. No, that's probably not a good sign.
Speaker 4: I'd also say like any sort of like touching or
Speaker 4: really intense eye contact like a shoulder rub or or
Speaker 4: there's like you know, like the pop callar, like the
Speaker 4: Ferrari keychain.
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, I guess I'm not going to bring my
Speaker 1: Ferrari out on a dab. Sure what am I supposed
Speaker 1: to bring?
Speaker 4: I don't own. I'm sorry, any Ferrari driver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, general, okay, so there are some signs there.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe we could just break this down ourselves
Speaker 2: right now, Cam do you own any Ferrari money? Did
Speaker 2: you use a pet name when talking to Ashley?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: No, long pause there, think that's good.
Speaker 5: Well, I just think it's funny that, Like I was like,
Speaker 5: I own a Ferrari, Like where did that come from?
Speaker 5: But then I realized, oh, the key chain. Now, no,
Speaker 5: it's definitely not.
Speaker 4: I mean anything where it's like you're over compensating. You're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: trying to make it look like you have a lot
Speaker 4: of money.
Speaker 5: I mean, I remind you we met at a food truck,
Speaker 5: not a Michelin Star restaurant.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, normal, did you order side of walk because
Speaker 4: that could mean the same that's oh, be.
Speaker 5: Talking right there, big spender. Yeah you caught.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're still up in the air.
Speaker 2: We don't know for sure if any of this even
Speaker 2: matters to her, Like it could be something completely different
Speaker 2: than has her not calling you back.
Speaker 1: So let's just dial up Ashley and find out.
Speaker 3: Here we go, Hello, Hey is this Ashley?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Hey Ashley.
Speaker 1: Not sure if you're ready for this, but welcome to
Speaker 1: a radio show called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 2: Okay, probably because what we're doing here is a segment
Speaker 2: called a second Date update. We are reaching out on
Speaker 2: behalf of one of our listeners. It's a guy that
Speaker 2: you met just a few days ago.
Speaker 4: Actually pretty cute.
Speaker 1: I think he really wants to see you again because
Speaker 1: his name is Cam.
Speaker 4: Oh you remember Cam the food truck.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I don'tbelievable.
Speaker 4: Ale, Yeah, yeah, that's a glory review the story.
Speaker 1: Why do you feel that way? What happened that night?
Speaker 1: Because we've heard a little bit of the story from Cam.
Speaker 4: Oh, and he said such nice things about you, about god,
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 7: No, let's just say I should have known at the
Speaker 7: taco truck red flag way too comfortable approaching me, Like
Speaker 7: what now?
Speaker 1: Wait wait, okay, too comfortable?
Speaker 4: What is the red flag? Because he said he you
Speaker 4: he was making fun of your dancing, remember your street dancing?
Speaker 7: Oh really? Oh god? Just he just like, I don't know,
Speaker 7: like he's gave me player vibes.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that you said to him you thought he
Speaker 2: was a player, and he denied it multiple times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he did many times.
Speaker 4: It didn't bother you enough to go home with him.
Speaker 7: So great he told you about that too.
Speaker 5: Awesome.
Speaker 1: Great, Well you went over and spent the night. He
Speaker 1: didn't say anything no details about it.
Speaker 2: But the one detail that he is totally missing is like,
Speaker 2: why haven't you spoken to him?
Speaker 1: Because he's trying to text you and you are not
Speaker 1: responding at all.
Speaker 7: Okay, So we've been drinking a lot and he kind
Speaker 7: of passed out, like nothing actually happened. Okay, and my
Speaker 7: friends had told me about this trick that they do
Speaker 7: to like check if a guy is saying who they
Speaker 7: say they are or whatever. I know it's really sneaky,
Speaker 7: but when he was passed out, I took a live
Speaker 7: photo of his face with my phone and then, god,
Speaker 7: I can't believe I'm telling you. I kind of went
Speaker 7: over to his phone and like held it over and
Speaker 7: it opened his smart.
Speaker 4: Opened his phone. Yeah, I get, it's.
Speaker 7: Probably just play Candy crush on it, right, dude, I
Speaker 7: wish that's all I found.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a smart move.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I would hate it to happen to me, but that
Speaker 1: is brilliant violent. What did you find on his phone?
Speaker 7: Okay, the whole I'm not a player, I'm not talking
Speaker 7: another girl, blah blah blah with In like ten seconds,
Speaker 7: I could see that was a complete lie.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, everybody would lie about that, Like what are
Speaker 4: you gonna say, I'm actually talking to ten other women
Speaker 4: right now, like come home with me?
Speaker 7: Like so many, so many texts, Like it was ridiculous,
Speaker 7: And I'm thinking, like how many times is he like
Speaker 7: met these girls and taco trucks?
Speaker 5: Like is this this thing?
Speaker 7: Is you hang out at the tackle trucks?
Speaker 4: What is back it times with him right there? So
Speaker 4: why do you care? I mean if you went home
Speaker 4: like a one night stand, like it's just like what
Speaker 4: do you expect?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't think it was going to be a
Speaker 7: one night stand. I didn't know it was good. I
Speaker 7: was hoping for a relationship. We seem to click. I
Speaker 7: just you know, I had a feeling.
Speaker 6: I mean I could think he thinks you're a player.
Speaker 6: You go home with a random guy for the taco
Speaker 6: truck to break in his phone.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 4: I do believe that he really really likes you, and
Speaker 4: that maybe maybe he will be a reformed.
Speaker 1: Player like you and twenty other women all at the
Speaker 1: same time.
Speaker 4: He only called us about her, that is true, But
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 2: A little bit mad that he lied to us about
Speaker 2: texting other women. We didn't ask about we didn't have to.
Speaker 1: He just came out and said that are.
Speaker 4: He said that he wasn't talking to anybody else.
Speaker 2: That's what he said in the first part. But now
Speaker 2: I want to ask him again, Cam Kim, you've.
Speaker 4: You've got a jilted man on the phone named Jeffrey.
Speaker 5: This is a real violation of privacy.
Speaker 1: Oh not a good first.
Speaker 3: Thing to say.
Speaker 1: You just say no.
Speaker 2: By the way, true, but also by the way, Ashley,
Speaker 2: Cam has been listening to this conversation the entire time.
Speaker 1: Another lie that he didn't come forward with.
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying jeff the truth. He didn't mention anything.
Speaker 2: So Cam, go ahead talk to Ashley there and trying
Speaker 2: to defend yourself.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's not cool to look for my song.
Speaker 7: Okay, so you're telling me over and over again you're
Speaker 7: not a player.
Speaker 5: Not only are you a player, but you're a liar.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, I just think you need to You can't just
Speaker 5: dig like that. That's not cool. You should give me
Speaker 5: a chance to, you know, get to know you myself,
Speaker 5: to lie to.
Speaker 7: Me some more like are you kidding me?
Speaker 5: Who are these girls? Chloe?
Speaker 7: What was the other going on?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, the pictures from her name was April.
Speaker 2: Maybe they were not girls that you're dating. Maybe they
Speaker 2: were family members. Oh my god, Brook talks like that
Speaker 2: to her family members.
Speaker 3: You know that is not.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to help. Maybe there's an explanation Cam
Speaker 1: is not jumping in and offering up.
Speaker 4: I think Cam needs to explain why he was lying,
Speaker 4: because obviously you were. You got caught, Like why lie?
Speaker 5: Well, honestly, I'm more curious about the little phone hack game,
Speaker 5: Like what the hell was that all about?
Speaker 4: That is kind of like CIA level that.
Speaker 7: I mean, I had an instinct and I followed it.
Speaker 3: I just knew. I knew rying, and I.
Speaker 7: Had to prove it before I left, so I didn't
Speaker 7: do something stupid like.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think it's interesting that you use the
Speaker 2: word instinct there, Ashley, because say what you will about
Speaker 2: violation of privacy, and you're crossing boundaries. Bottom line is,
Speaker 2: you don't go through somebody else's phone unless you really
Speaker 2: care about them.
Speaker 1: Something deep inside of your heart.
Speaker 2: Told you you need to steal this man's face and
Speaker 2: lead his text messages to make sure he's the right
Speaker 2: guy for you.
Speaker 1: I would follow that instinct all the word at Chili's
Speaker 1: for a real date that we pay for. Wow, we
Speaker 1: owe it to your heart, to your instincts to see
Speaker 1: this through.
Speaker 3: And that's a food.
Speaker 4: I have a feeling that that was not going to
Speaker 4: work on Ashley.
Speaker 5: I want that came from somewhere, That instinct came from me.
Speaker 7: Not want to be fooled again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I said Chili's, Did you hear me? Those
Speaker 1: baby back ribs are worth it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: That's not healthy.
Speaker 1: They're not even sponsoring us. And I'm throwing that out
Speaker 1: there like it's the.
Speaker 7: True love pushing him. I'm the not happening. So just
Speaker 7: I don't know what you're doing with this phone call.
Speaker 7: Just forget it, like to lose my number.
Speaker 4: Man, that's pretty clear there account. He messed up.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 5: I've been deleted that picture of my face.
Speaker 7: Oh I already did. Don't worry about that.
Speaker 4: I thought for sure she would have printed it out
Speaker 4: and framed it.
Speaker 2: Just post that picture right on the side of the
Speaker 2: taco truck for the next girl that he games down.
Speaker 5: That's not a bad idea. Look, I'm only there Thursday
Speaker 5: through Saturday.
Speaker 2: It's not that big a ca Okay, looking Jeffrey in
Speaker 2: the morning did we just unlock a dangerous new life
Speaker 2: hack for couples too?
Speaker 4: Yeah? We did. I'm telling you that's why I don't
Speaker 4: have my face idea on my phone. Oh yeah, any number?
Speaker 2: You know, Michael opening up your phone, finding that Silver
Speaker 2: Singles account that you've been hiding out there, reading all
Speaker 2: the smut you right on there.
Speaker 1: It's uses that much money's in her bank account. It's
Speaker 1: like a fourteen digit goha. I'm not saying all guys
Speaker 1: should be scared. We should be scared too. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: if you missed it.
Speaker 2: Ashley took a live photo of her date's face and
Speaker 2: used it to unlock his phone when he wasn't there
Speaker 2: and read his incriminating text.
Speaker 4: Is that illegal? Like, I'm being serious, Like, are you
Speaker 4: allowed to do that?
Speaker 1: I think only maybe you post something with them knowing.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's illegal.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's just crazy people can do that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's smart, it's smart, and it shows you care.
Speaker 3: I'm going to that.
Speaker 2: But if anybody has actually tried this before and it works,
Speaker 2: text into seven eight five nine two and.
Speaker 4: Confirm text it on whose phone? Though?
Speaker 2: It is gonna be crazy, But we can always try
Speaker 2: and help you with your dating life. If you want
Speaker 2: some help, email the show. We'll call that person who's
Speaker 2: not calling you back. And go.
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