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Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 1: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 1: a sibling raivalry. No, no, sibling rail. Don't do that

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Speaker 1: with your mouth revely.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not, I'm walking on it. I never

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Speaker 1: thought I could films so free, flying away, all away

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Speaker 1: a prayer, who could it be? Believe it or not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was Saturday night, no Friday night. I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: all of the you know, old school theme songs for

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Speaker 1: TV shows like Hill Street Blues, Greatest American Hero, you know,

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Speaker 1: in my head. They were good, man, those theme songs

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Speaker 1: were good, very nostalgic. Anyway, all of Rudson here reporting

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Speaker 1: live from Rio Hudson's bedroom. If a clip is provided,

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Speaker 1: you'll be able to see. But you know, she's got

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Speaker 1: all the stuff on her door, and it's like I'm

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Speaker 1: constantly finding rooms to do this podcast in because my

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Speaker 1: think this should add an entirely different element to this interview. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: so much fun and it allows you to challenge yourself

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Speaker 1: You know who she is. She's one of the more

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Speaker 1: badass figures. It's fun. They all have those different personalities.

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Speaker 1: think it's a cookbook coming out. It's called Eat the Hustle.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring her on right now, Robin, come on in, lady, Hello,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm just hanging out my daughter's room because

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Speaker 2: You gotta pivot, You got to pivot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so meditation and breath work came in. Another

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00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 2: tool in the toolkit came in about four years into

434
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: my when I was practicing law, and that was clutch.

435
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 2: So I think obviously it's they all go hand in hand.

436
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 2: They're all like, you know, essential pieces of the puzzle.

437
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was it was a good ten years

438
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 2: before I felt like, okay, yeah, that's behind me.

439
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's funny because the all

440
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: of these things that you talk about, you know, breathwork, meditation, therapy,

441
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: you know, physicality, I think they're just such a necessity,

442
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, for everyone, no matter what your situation is.

443
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I've you know, I've been an anxious person.

444
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 1: I've had anxiety since my twenties, probably much much younger,

445
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: and you know, journaling was huge for me to get

446
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: through it. Meditation was big for me, of course, therapy,

447
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: and I didn't find sort of the physicality thing, the

448
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: physical just until a little bit later on. But it's

449
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: just so cruel it was. It's now so crucial for me,

450
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: you know. And as far as that body holding trauma,

451
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: holy shit, is that true. I mean, I was going

452
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: through some shit in my twenties and then my thirties,

453
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: fourth is whatever, but specifically in my twenties when it

454
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: hit me so fucking hard that I didn't understand. I

455
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do with it. I thought I

456
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: was dying half the time, throwing up on the street,

457
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: fucking couldn't breathe, trying to live my life. I mean,

458
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: it was so gnarly. And my mom had me do

459
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: this deep tissue, crazy deep tissue massage with this like

460
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: healer masuicse woman, and my mom's all about that, and

461
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: I'm in, but I'm always a little skeptical. And she

462
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: starts pushing down on my solar plexus like so hard,

463
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, fuck, I mean, I'm in like pain, pain,

464
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: and then she moves up sort of close to my

465
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: rib cage. Am I ah, And then finally she moves

466
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: in and I lose it, like crying like a baby,

467
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: like sobbing, sobbing, sobbing, and I'm apologizing, abzorry. I don't

468
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: know where it was coming from. And it was really

469
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: an amazing experience, you know, because we hold that shit

470
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: in our bodies physically, you know what.

471
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 2: I believe it, and I'll all like I take it

472
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: even further, like I'm into like all kinds of metaphysical stuff,

473
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: all kinds of spiritual stuff. I did a past life

474
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 2: regression just essentially like therapy, plus they you go into

475
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: like a meditation and then you basically talk through what

476
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 2: you're seeing. And it was like this whole thing and

477
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: I was like this spy in World War One. I

478
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 2: ended up getting shot in my sternum, and the physical

479
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: manifestations of my body now were like related to the

480
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: story that I was telling to this therapist in the

481
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: in the in the moment, and like in this vision,

482
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 2: I was shot like in my sternum. And then she

483
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: had me do this visualization where it was like healing

484
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: and a healing circle and whatever, and like whether you

485
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 2: think it's Mumbo jumpo or not, Like I haven't had

486
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: those physical sensations since I did that. And then she

487
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 2: took me through another one where I was like an

488
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: indigenous person and I was living in this hut and whatever,

489
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: and I was at a spear there was an arrow

490
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: went into my left heel. And let me tell you,

491
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: for twenty years, I have had pain in my plan

492
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: of fashion on in my left foot. After birth it

493
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: got worse. I've done every pt everything. When I tell you,

494
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: ever since this experience, I have not had a single

495
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: They're not a sensation, not of pain. Nothing. My my

496
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: physical therapist was like, what do you mean your left

497
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: foot doesn't hurt anymore? Like I've been treating you for

498
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 2: fifteen years, So I don't know whether that was like psychosomatic,

499
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: but like, listen, baby, I didn't care.

500
00:26:55,119 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, I feel better. But I

501
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: do think that you have to have some sort of

502
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: belief in order for that shit to actually work, you know.

503
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean, my mother is all about it, you know,

504
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: and I've had moments where she's like, you need to

505
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: see this channeler and it's incredible. You know. We just

506
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: had this guy John Edward on our show, who you know,

507
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: is an incredible clairvoyant who can see beyond I mean,

508
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: see the people in your life who have passed away,

509
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: who are It's just there are things that this dude

510
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: says that there is no world where he could and

511
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: know any of it unless he's actually experiencing it. You

512
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, That shit is real. There's no

513
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: world where we can't tap into certain energies. And everyone

514
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: that I've talked to, because we have a big psychic family,

515
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: just generally my mom and my sister, it's everyone has

516
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: the ability. That's what everyone says to us. It's like

517
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: you have the ability to go there. You know, it's

518
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: not just for the gifted. Yes, there are the gifted,

519
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: but there are we all have that ability. We all

520
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: have that psychic ability.

521
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: You know, I believe that, and I definitely my husband

522
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: is really like kind of tuned in. We're noticing like that.

523
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: My daughter is really tuned in, and those are like,

524
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: you know, those are gifts that I would love. You know,

525
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: I'm into the physical. I'm into the breath work, but

526
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 2: like there's like kind of that metaphysical piece that I'm

527
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: so curious about I would love to develop those those things.

528
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh for sure. Okay, so you get through

529
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: all this, you go to law school, you practice eight

530
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: years of all. What kind of law were you practicing?

531
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: Corporate litigation? So I was at a law firm called

532
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: Paul Hastings and we had just a bunch of corporations

533
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: as our clients and like high net worth folks.

534
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and was it fulfilling for you at the time?

535
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: It was because I made it about the hustle. I

536
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: was like, I'm this, you know, I got my cute

537
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: little suit, you know, living this like New York City

538
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: girly life. But it, you know, eight years in and

539
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: really hard work, you know, talking like eighty billible hours

540
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: a week. So it scratched that like work ethic itch,

541
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: which I think I will have till the day I die.

542
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: But the topics were pretty mundane.

543
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so then how did this all transition? I know,

544
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: we sort of touched upon it, but you know, was

545
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: it a scary moment to say, you know what, I'm

546
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: going to stop this and I'm going to go into

547
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: this When you started into the marketing world anyway, Yeah.

548
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: Well, it was a slow burn. I think for two years.

549
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, what's my escape patch, Like,

550
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: what's my route? And when I realized there was no route,

551
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: I was like all right, So I just got to

552
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: like quit and force myself to do something else. So

553
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: I initially had taken a leave of absence from my

554
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: law firm where they don't I still have a job,

555
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: but they don't pay me for that period of time.

556
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: And that's when I started making contacts like in the

557
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: agency world and with athletic brands and their cmos and

558
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: Da da da, and then the Olympic London Olympic Games

559
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: were coming around and I thought, Okay, this is like

560
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: my moment. How am I going to meet these apps

561
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: time I get a storytell around sport in my way

562
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: if I'm not physically there to have that experience. So

563
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: that was when I quit, and I was sleeping on

564
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: my friend's couch in London for three weeks. And I

565
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: left the London Games with a job with a sports

566
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: marketing agency doing that Nike Women's gig.

567
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and how are your parents take this?

568
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: They well, I made a bout to them that I

569
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: was never going to ask them for a cent, and

570
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: I made good on that and they you know, I mentioned,

571
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: you know, the immigrant story. Normally there's a lot more

572
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: there's a lot of pressure like this, and they were

573
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: incredibly supportive because I was so I mean, I was

574
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: so passionate about it. I was like lit on fire,

575
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: and having gone through this this traumatic stuff in my

576
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: early twenties, they just wanted me to feel like I

577
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: was impassioned and feeling coming from like a really safe place.

578
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: And I felt like, oh, okay, like this, this story

579
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: that I'm writing for myself feels not only empowering, but

580
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: it feels safe. And that was freedom that was worth

581
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: any any amount of money. Yeah, so they were sportive.

582
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: My OJ wolf pack was down.

583
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: Good. That's what you need, you know, you need pushback,

584
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: but you need support, you know.

585
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: And I am my own worst critic, so I didn't

586
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: My mom and my dad knew they didn't need me

587
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: any finger wagging. You know. It was like I'm gonna

588
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: look at myself in the mirror and probably be harsher

589
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: than anybody else.

590
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, okay, So how did Peloton come in to

591
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: your life?

592
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: Peloton came in It was before the studio had opened

593
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen. I read about the company in like

594
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: a magazine and I sent a cold email to the company.

595
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: It was info at Pelton Cycle dot com. Like the

596
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: alias doesn't even exist anymore. I just was like, I

597
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: gotta work with y'all. Like I just came off this gig,

598
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: you know, doing social media for this brand, and you know,

599
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: I want to do global storytelling and I do vision

600
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: boards a lot. And I did a vision board where

601
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: in the business quadrant it was like some type of

602
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: intersection between storytelling and technology. I had no idea what

603
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: that meant. I had a picture of like a little

604
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: Apple computer. I really truly didn't. I was like, what

605
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: is that thread that I need to pull on? And

606
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: it wasn't until I read this article that I was like, Oh,

607
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: that's the thread. So I auditioned. I was the second No,

608
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: I was the third instructer hired a Peloton and that

609
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: then we was like full steam ahead, Let's open up

610
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: a studio, let's start filming classes to like the twenty

611
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: bikes that are off the you know, bars from Taiwan

612
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: or whatever. And that was it. That was twelve years ago.

613
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: Wow. So you were one of three, the first three

614
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: hired and initially how was it set up? You know,

615
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: it was it how did it work?

616
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: Like duct tape and a dream?

617
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: It was why?

618
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So our office literally were like the CEO the

619
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: founders were. It was there were probably twenty five people

620
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: total at the headcount of the company at the time,

621
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: including those new instructors, and they just like put up

622
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: a black curtain in the corner of a Chelsea office space.

623
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: And when we were recording classes, like the people on

624
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: the floor couldn't do conference like phone calls. Like it

625
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: was like one pm, we're filming classes. No CEO, You're

626
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: gonna have to get investor go to Starbucks. And it

627
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: was like quite on set. The chief technology officer was

628
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: the one who was cutting our classes. Like we didn't

629
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: have there was no pa, there was no grip, there

630
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: was no there was nothing. It was literally like a

631
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: camera a bike. There wasn't even a Peltoime bike. It

632
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: just had Peltime branding because we didn't even have bikes yet.

633
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: When we started filming content and I would beg my

634
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: friends to come and be like extras in.

635
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: The holy shit, wait a minute, so then how was

636
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: it streamed or in the beginning.

637
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: In the beginning, we you know, we had the infrastructure

638
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: to stream, so I had a little rudimentary leader board

639
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: so I could see there were like seven people.

640
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: On how many people were subscribers at that point.

641
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: I mean I think we had like two We had

642
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 2: sold like a few hundred bikes. Yeah, with the initially

643
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: it was with an initial It was like the first

644
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: fundraising round was one of those online kickstarter and so

645
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: there were like some bikes sold with the kickstarter, so

646
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: we kind of had a built in base, but it

647
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: was minimal, and you know, finally we started getting the

648
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: hardware on site and then you know, we had a

649
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: few months to ramp up content before our twenty third

650
00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: Street studio.

651
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: Opened, right, And so initially because here's again, I told

652
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: you I had a Peloton forever and it's just so

653
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: unique and that you can curate, especially now there's so

654
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: much curation, but even in the in the infancy of it,

655
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, at least when I got my peloton, which

656
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't exactly remember when it was, and it was like,

657
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: oh shit, like you can listen to these playlists and

658
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: go through the playlist and sort of see what you

659
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: want to listen to, you know, and that was so

660
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: unique to me and the attitude of all of the

661
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: instructors sort of how you wanted to work out, you know,

662
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: if you wanted someone to beat your ass, okay, if

663
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: you want to, if you wanted something like nice and easy, okay.

664
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: So was there anyone in sort of like head of

665
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: marketing or who was explaining like, this is how this

666
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: is our vision, or was were the trainers themselves sort

667
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: of saying, hey, you know what, this is what we

668
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: want to do.

669
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: I think it was a little bit of both. I

670
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: say it was like the ship left the station. We

671
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: were like, oh shoot, we got to put a window here,

672
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: we got to fix this thing here, and you were

673
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: just it was just scrappy, and it still is in

674
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: many many ways, just a scrappy mentality of like we

675
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: will build it, we will build it, and there is

676
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: an innate sense of self. I think that this is

677
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: required of a Peloton instructor, Like you have to have

678
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: a point of view. It's not like you audition for

679
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: something and they're like, this is your role. You're the

680
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: girl next door, You're the hard ass syz. So you

681
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: have to have you have to come with that and

682
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: then we can hone it under the Peloton umbrella. But

683
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: it's not a role because after a thousand classes, you

684
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: can see that. So it's got to be like, obviously

685
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: there's musicality and there's a physical element, and you have

686
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: to be a subject matter expert on you know, as

687
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: a trainer, as a wellness expert. But there's like the

688
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: X factor that you cannot teach and that's just like

689
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: a likeability period.

690
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: So do you create your own playlists all the time?

691
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: Is that all you? Yeah?

692
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: All me?

693
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: How often are you? How often are you changing your music?

694
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean all the time.

695
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: Every I mean every class has a different playlist, but

696
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: I would say monthly. I'm kind of we're like bucketing, okay,

697
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: like these are rising Latin songs and the hip hop

698
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 2: things that drop, and we have a music team. Of

699
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: course we will say like okay, we're sourcing licensing for

700
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: this or we think this artist series may be coming

701
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 2: down the pike, because there's obviously legal things that come

702
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: into asset.

703
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: Is there a license? Is there license?

704
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: So we have to get licensing for literally every single

705
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 2: thing we play, and then we have we have great

706
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: relationships with the artists, so they'll say like, oh, we've

707
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: got this tour coming up, or I've got this album

708
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: that's dropping. And we have you know, amazing relationships with

709
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: the top artists in the world, and they'll do you know,

710
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: they'll work with us for really cool, really cool concepts.

711
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, because that can get expensive. I mean,

712
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: Jesus license all those songs.

713
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so we want to be we want to

714
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: be super serving what our members want to listen to

715
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: while also introducing them to cool new stuff. Right, So

716
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 2: it's a balance.

717
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: So you are sort of a pioneer in this world,

718
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: like you've been there forever. How do you work? Do

719
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: you work yourself up the chain, so to speak?

720
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: I have a hybrid role where I'm an executive and

721
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: an instructor. So I'm a vice president of fitness programming

722
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: and a head instructor. So in that sense, in my

723
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: VP role, it's like working with marketing and product and

724
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: working with my boss, who's our chief content officer, who

725
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: essentially runs the network like if we were a television network,

726
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: she would run the network. And then we've got executive

727
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: producers and you know, there's a lot of the hundreds

728
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: of folks that make these classes happen, not just the

729
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 2: instructors that you see on camera. And so in that vein.

730
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: I am more than an instructor, and I have more responsibilities,

731
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: more meetings X, Y Z. And then in my what

732
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 2: i'm in front of the camera, the same standard applies

733
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 2: to me that applies to you know, the other fifty folks.

734
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and how offering in front of the camera these days?

735
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: Four days a week usually you are, Yeah, I'm live

736
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,479
Speaker 2: four days a week.

737
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: Is that how it's always been? Or you have you

738
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: cut back?

739
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: It's more I would say we're more nimble and efficient now.

740
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: I think I might we cut down from like five

741
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: days a week to four days a week, but in

742
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: those four days, I'm filming as much, if not more content.

743
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

744
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: And then we also have other we have like social

745
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: media things, we have press things, you know, so they'll

746
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: fold that into our schedule where it might be I

747
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: might be on on set for four hours, but only

748
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: one of those hours is a class.

749
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: And how many locations are there? Now? Are you actually film.

750
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: In New York and London?

751
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: Okay? And do you still have live you still have

752
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: people come in to ride as well?

753
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I mean ride run lift row like

754
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: the energy When I tell you it is like SNL

755
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: meets visiting the Empire State Building meets like it is

756
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: a New York moment, Like if you are a Peloton member,

757
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: the people who just walk by and you can see

758
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: the live class, you know, we'll play the live classes

759
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: like on the screens and the plaza and whatever, and

760
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: it is such an exciting moment for people and then

761
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: they get to meet their favorite instructors afterwards, feel like

762
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: a photo line, and we try to make the experience

763
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: really special for people. And our studio team is absolutely incredible.

764
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: They our member experienced team, like really really cares, you

765
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: know for people, so celebrating anniversaries and birthdays and all that.

766
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's part of the craziest shit about this. And

767
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: I've talked to you about my friends because like all

768
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: my friends have Pelotons and we used to be nutty

769
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: on them, you know, Like, but you guys are famous,

770
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: You've got personality. You know, you're doing what you love

771
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: and and the byproduct of it is, Oh, now I

772
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: walk down the street and I'm recognized. You know, how

773
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: is that? What is that? Like? Do you dig it?

774
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I love it's such a privilege that any

775
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 2: he gives a crap. The interesting thing that I think

776
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: makes it super distinct from like Hollywood. Right, It's like

777
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: you see somebody that you love from a movie or

778
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: a TV show, like you know that they're not the

779
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: movie role or you should, Whereas this is like you know,

780
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 2: if At or Ali or Cody or you know, Matt

781
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: Wolper said something in a class that I took of

782
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: him as like, oh I fed my dog. I'm like, hey,

783
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: I heard about your dog. Like you know, it's like

784
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: a very specific, intimate parasocial relationship, which is a very

785
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: odd thing to negotiate, right, because like that is really us,

786
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: but also it's like a it's like adjacent to who

787
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: I am, right, and so like when I'm standing there

788
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: with my kids and my husband, ninety nine percent of

789
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: the time it is like totally cool and really flattering.

790
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: And then sometimes you're like I literally just got to

791
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: catch a flight, like I'm not trying to be rude,

792
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: but like I can't, and there's such an outpouring of emotion.

793
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: Often because they are intimate experiences, so we will very

794
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: very it's very very common for a peloton instructure to

795
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: hear like deep.

796
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: Deep stuff, right, No, for sure, because.

797
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: They're personal relationships that we have with.

798
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: People of course, not only that, but even going back

799
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: to sort of how you got through your trauma, that's

800
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: not you know, you're not on an island. There. So

801
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: many people are using what you do, using your words,

802
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: your inspiration to go to Robin because she gets my

803
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: shit going and Robin has changed my life. I mean

804
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: that's I mean, obviously they've done it themselves, but they

805
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: put in the work, right, But you've You've been the

806
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: inspiration and the impetus for a lot of these people

807
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: to change their entire lives. So there is an emotional

808
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: component to meeting you. I'm sure it is like.

809
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: The honestly the best job on the planet. And I

810
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: think that, you know, people ask like, oh, during the

811
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: pandemic or during this and during that, like how do

812
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: you keep going? And it's like how could I not?

813
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: Like what job do I get to like go to

814
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: the grocery store, or like walk on sixth Avenue and

815
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: get stopped by somebody being like holy crap, like you

816
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: got me through my divorce, or like you celebrated graduating

817
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: college by taking your run. You know, like that's a

818
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: wild cascade of impact that I don't think many, certainly

819
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: not many wellness jobs have no.

820
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: I know, you know, I walk down the street and

821
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 1: say I loved you in this movie or this TV show,

822
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: like oh cool, thanks, But no one's saying you've changed

823
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: my bucking life man, like you brought me through like cancer.

824
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm like I did. Like that's never gonna happen. It

825
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: would be fun to go to the headquarters and see

826
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: that shit go down.

827
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: You're invited.

828
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: I would love to. I'm actually gonna be in New York.

829
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: I got to do press for a little while and

830
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: for about a week in New York in November. Maybe

831
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: I'll maybe I'll stop by.

832
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: All right, cool, we have members in on the weekends.

833
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: Let me talk to you really quickly before we get

834
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: out of here about your your book, Eat the Hustle. Yeah,

835
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: what inspired this?

836
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: So everything?

837
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: Look I can only see your shoulders, but you're fucking

838
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: it's I'm jealous, you know what I'm saying.

839
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: Well, this has got for plants. It's from plants and

840
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 2: lifting weights and doing all the things.

841
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: Yes, this is what I want to talk about is

842
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: food and how how much of this is food and

843
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: how much of this is actual working out?

844
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: Well, you need listen, like you need a layer, a

845
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: layer of muscle underneath all of it to kind of

846
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: bulletproof you for old age longevity. I believe that strength

847
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: training is the fountain of youth. That is like the

848
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: that's the base of my pyramid if we're looking at

849
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: a fitness pyramid. So somebody might think it's actually cardiovet

850
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: like running and cycling whatever. Actually it's strength that's three

851
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: days a week, non negotiable. And then I'm layering on

852
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 2: you know, you know, zone two, zone three, all different

853
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: types of modalities. I mix up my modalities quite a

854
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: bit from a cardiovascular perspective, but from a fuel perspective.

855
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: I've been plant based for over twelve years, and I

856
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: wrote Eat to Hustle, which is available for pre order now.

857
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 2: I wrote Eat to Hustle because I kept getting asked,

858
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: number one, how do you get your protein? And number two,

859
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: how do you robin fuel yourself and your family? So

860
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: this is someone you know, I'm someone who I consider

861
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 2: myself a remix artist in the kitchen, and I wanted

862
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: to simplify plant based eating for people when they say, like,

863
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Speaker 2: I literally don't even how do I eat plant based

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Speaker 2: and still get protein. So seventy five protein packed recipes

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Speaker 2: that have the macros, you'll know exactly what you're putting

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Speaker 2: into your body. And I actually attached a dumbbell score

867
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Speaker 2: to each recipe, so there's one dumbbell, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: easy all the way up to three or four dumbells

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Speaker 2: for the stuff that's a little bit more complicated, but

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Speaker 2: it is, you know. I include like what I do

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Speaker 2: for my mail prep, what I fuel weekly, like what's

872
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Speaker 2: on my grocery list like these are. This is truly

873
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Speaker 2: like how I fuel in my kitchen for over ten years.

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Speaker 2: As somebody who trains multiple hours a day.

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Speaker 1: Do you create You have your meal plans, but do

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Speaker 1: you cook for ahead of time? Like would you put

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Speaker 1: something in the fridge to sort of so like that

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Speaker 1: quick sort of grab and go stuff that you need.

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Speaker 2: I do I meal prep over the weekend my proteins

880
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: and like roasted veggies and stuff. And then I'll also

881
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: do like protein breads and things like that, like I'll

882
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Speaker 2: batch make that maybe like once a month or once

883
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Speaker 2: every few weeks. But for things like this, like I

884
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Speaker 2: literally had twelve minutes to fuel before I got on

885
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Speaker 2: scree with you, and I don't time to make a meal.

886
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Speaker 2: My kids are going crazy. You know, so it's like

887
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Speaker 2: airfraing tofu, making satan. Having veggies in the fridge like

888
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: just making it harder to make the wrong choice. And

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Speaker 2: I think that that's where people And my meal prep,

890
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Speaker 2: by the way, isn't hours and hours and measuring and

891
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Speaker 2: weighing and whatever. It's literally just having batches of things

892
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Speaker 2: that I know are going to move the needle for

893
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Speaker 2: me in the direction that I want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it can get so overwhelming, you know, I've

895
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Speaker 1: always food has always been a tough one for me

896
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Speaker 1: because I love to eat, you know, and I can

897
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Speaker 1: get into it, but it just gets hard. I'll open

898
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: up the fridge, I'm like, the fuck am I gonna eat?

899
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Speaker 1: There's nothing? What a gonna eat? What am I gonna eat?

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Speaker 1: I can't and I'm starving. I'm like, I'll just do

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Speaker 1: some chips and then leave, you know, because it's it's

902
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Speaker 1: always difficult to like find something that is specific to

903
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Speaker 1: what you're trying to do. Yeah, that meal prep is

904
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Speaker 1: probably huge.

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Speaker 2: Well, once you have some things in your rotation. And

906
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Speaker 2: this is why I wrote Eat the Hustle because I

907
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 2: was like, it's not a book for people who exclusively

908
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: want to eat plant based they will get you there.

909
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: But what I say is I want to expand people's

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Speaker 2: protein portfolio. So you just put other things in your

911
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 2: mix that give you energy, don't sap it, that aid

912
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Speaker 2: your recovery, that are better for inflammation, better for longevity,

913
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Speaker 2: and really great for your gut. Help too, because all

914
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Speaker 2: these recipes are packed with fiber, and most people are

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Speaker 2: actually more likely to be fiber deficient than protein deficient.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is great, This is good. Now do do

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Speaker 1: you have cheat days? I mean, do you eat do

918
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Speaker 1: you eat it like a slice?

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Speaker 2: I don't consider it a cheat, but yeah, sure, Like

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Speaker 2: I you know, my birthday was a few weeks ago,

921
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Speaker 2: Like I ate literally ate birthday cake for breakfast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you have to have moments. And I also don't

924
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Speaker 2: I want a model for my kids. They don't have

925
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Speaker 2: to there's no perfection, there's no like hiding. I don't

926
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Speaker 2: want them to be like twenty, downing donuts and eating

927
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Speaker 2: crazy stuff in college because they didn't let them have

928
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Speaker 2: birthday cake at a party. Y.

929
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Speaker 1: Yes, I see that. I see that where I see

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Speaker 1: parents who are so gnarly strict that the minute that

931
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Speaker 1: the kids sort of get out of that world, they

932
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Speaker 1: are just grinding on the bad shit.

933
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Speaker 2: I'm super mindful of, like modeling, not only like healthy

934
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Speaker 2: eating habits except that I'm you know, healthy for me,

935
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Speaker 2: but also like movement habits, right like I want my

936
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Speaker 2: kids to see some balance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and do you drink it all?

938
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Speaker 2: I don't drink. I haven't drunk in years, not and

939
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Speaker 2: my husband doesn't drink either. So we're a sober family.

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Speaker 1: Clean, clean, clean. Well, I'm not going to tell you

941
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Speaker 1: whether I drink or not, So I'm not going to

942
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Speaker 1: tell you. You will never fucking know.

943
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Speaker 2: Just on me when you come to.

944
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Speaker 1: Great I mean, I mean, I'll bring a little airplane

945
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Speaker 1: bottles something. Well, this has been so much fun. I'm

946
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Speaker 1: gonna take I've never even taken a live class ever

947
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: on the pellets on ever. It's always been just the

948
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Speaker 1: just the recorded classes.

949
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, now we're gonna level it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna find you. I got to get into

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Speaker 1: one of your classes, for sure, I'm going to. But

952
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Speaker 1: this has been so great. I'm excited to get I'm

953
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Speaker 1: excited the cod When does it come out? I know

954
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Speaker 1: it's a for pre order, but when.

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Speaker 2: Muscle comes out in March of next time.

956
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's pre order that. Let's do that, all right. Well,

957
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Speaker 1: this has been so fun, Robin.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you, appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all right, We'll see you soon.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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Speaker 1: Man. What kind of work ethic? It's just just jealous.

962
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Speaker 1: She's energy, clear, muscle, skin looks good. Bang bang bang.

963
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: And here I am in my daughter's room with a

964
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Speaker 1: tied ice shirt on, a shitty beard, bags under my eyes,

965
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Speaker 1: my eyebrow hairs are just growing, you know, a mile

966
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Speaker 1: a minute. I'm a mess, but I'm fun and I'm funny.

967
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Speaker 1: I'm a mess, but i'm funny. Great chest hair, you know,

968
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Speaker 1: just a belly hanging over my waistband. It's all bad.

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Speaker 1: But hey, it's me, all right. I'm out here

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Speaker 2: A