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Speaker 3: Yet, but he's on the He's got at least a start.

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Speaker 3: But I think you got to look at Justin Jefferson,

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Speaker 4: Guys and say, hey, you know, if he's in that company,

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Speaker 5: I mean, they're a little different team now than what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they got more guys on defense back, you know

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Speaker 4: In two weeks ago he was two hundred and eighteen

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson again, you know, he's rushed for five hundred yards.

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Speaker 4: You know, this season, you know a lot of it scrambles,

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Speaker 3: You know that regard defensively.

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Speaker 4: These guys. You know, it's again it's another good defensive front.

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Speaker 4: You know, with ninety and ninety nine coming off the ball.

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Speaker 4: There are two really good d tackles in this league

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Speaker 4: good blitzer. This is a this is a solid football team,

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Speaker 4: you know, And and it's it's a test.

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Speaker 3: For us where we are in our season.

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Speaker 2: You talk a lot, I mean, coaches talk a lot

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Speaker 1: How tough has it been that your offense has not

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Speaker 1: Seasons now, you know, I mean every once in a

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's it's it was evident, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Sunday we get we get to take away offense goes

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Speaker 4: anytime you can create the takeaway, you know, give your

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Speaker 4: this year, I think it's a it's big and.

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Speaker 3: You know, all things that.

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Speaker 2: Five cold times you got it were more touchdowns, one

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Speaker 3: It just I mean, it just goes without saying.

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Speaker 4: Some of the top teams that are that are still playing,

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Speaker 4: red zone drives go up, everything go up, sacks go up.

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Speaker 4: It there's there is definitely a correlation with with takeaways.

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Speaker 5: Ben's knowing the trials and tribulations and having a rookie

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Speaker 4: General, I think, I mean he's been he's been a

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Speaker 4: plus percent on field goal. I think he's missed too

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Speaker 4: You know, leg gets tired. You know, k balls aren't

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Speaker 3: Way, and it just gives you a confidence.

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Speaker 4: So Cam's done a done an excellent job for us

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