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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Speaking of track at Buck, we tease

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Speaker 1: this earlier, and I do think it's kind of fascinating.

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Speaker 1: There is a real controversy out there as we speak

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Speaker 1: surrounding the Little Mermaid. So I guess there's going to

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Speaker 1: be a live action version of the Little Mermaid? Is

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Speaker 1: that what they're doing? All these Disney movies they're coming out.

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Speaker 1: They just came out with Pinocchio, they did The Lion King,

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Speaker 1: I think live action somewhat the Aladdin. They've tried to

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Speaker 1: remake all of the animated films as live action versions, right,

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Speaker 1: and so my understanding is that they have cast a

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Speaker 1: black Little Mermaid to play Arial, so the character will

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Speaker 1: now be black as opposed to blonde and with I

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Speaker 1: think Ariel actually had correctly in the cartoon. Yeah blonde,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry, white with red hair, which was the

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Speaker 1: original aerial. And this is thrown everybody into an uproar.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm not personally if it's a fantastical character or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but this hole's scenario, like I don't watch it, but

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Speaker 1: Bridgerton where they have all these people playing eighteenth century

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Speaker 1: I think British individuals like Jane Austen novels effectively and

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Speaker 1: they just randomly assigned different races to them. That feels

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Speaker 1: weird to me. Same thing with Hamilton, where you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna make Alexander Hamilton a black guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this are historic figures that had a race, So that

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Speaker 1: feels weird to me. But on the fantastical element, when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about, hey, this is Ariel, she is a

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Speaker 1: made up character who's a mermaid, I don't really same

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Speaker 1: thing Captain America James Bond. Like these fictional characters, I

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Speaker 1: don't really care what race they are. I understand why

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Speaker 1: they try to get attention by changing the race, because

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Speaker 1: they're like, we're reimagining everything about about this character. But

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like these are silly controversies now

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Speaker 1: historical figures. I think it's a bit weird when you

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Speaker 1: have people who are definitely like you know, Hamilton. Everybody

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Speaker 1: in Hamilton was white by and large, so I think

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Speaker 1: it's kind of weird that you change the races to

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Speaker 1: try to make some sort of political point. But little

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Speaker 1: Mermaid I don't really care about. Do you have a favorite?

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Speaker 1: Are you a Disney like because you have kids and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Are there? Are the Disney movies something that they grew

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Speaker 1: up watching? Or ye watched all? We watched all the

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Speaker 1: Disney movie. I watched all the Disney movies growing up.

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Speaker 1: My boys watched all They're kind of growing out. Do

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Speaker 1: you think is the best of the of the cartoon

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Speaker 1: I should say the animated Disney movies. My favorite as

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Speaker 1: a kid was Peter Pan. The one that my boys

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Speaker 1: loved the most and would watch most frequently was the

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Speaker 1: Original Cars the Lightning McQueen Pixar film, which is relatively

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Speaker 1: recent vintage sometime in the twenty first century. They would

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Speaker 1: watch that all the time without fail, and so that

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Speaker 1: was their favorite. If you had to pick one, they

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Speaker 1: wanted to stay in the Cars motel. They wanted to

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Speaker 1: ride the cars rides. That was their favorites by far.

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Speaker 1: I liked the The Robin Hood where Robin Hood is

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Speaker 1: a fine I like that one a lot. But I

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Speaker 1: thought Aladdin and the Lion King. I remember I saw

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Speaker 1: those in theater you know, yeah, so you know, Clay,

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Speaker 1: I was getting your or your gad I mean at

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Speaker 1: that time, but I saw those in the theater um

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Speaker 1: in the seventh or eighth grade probably and those things

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Speaker 1: came out maybe a little younger. And uh, the Disney

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Speaker 1: movies are true are true classics. Look, I mean in

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Speaker 1: terms of the Little Mermaid movie that's coming out, if

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Speaker 1: it's a good movie, it's a good movie. I you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that as long as decisions are being made

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Speaker 1: with an idea toward story that's compelling, and that's that's fine.

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Speaker 1: This is this is the realm of fantasy. This is

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Speaker 1: the realm of storytelling. It's only when there's a real

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Speaker 1: when when there's a clear effort to make things political.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll give you an example. I was watching

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Speaker 1: a or a clear effort at wokeness. I was watching

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Speaker 1: a Vikings because I'm in. My brothers always make fun

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Speaker 1: of me if the guys if there's swords, beards and

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Speaker 1: if it's anything Viking related, anything like that. And they

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Speaker 1: but I mean, this was this was not fantasy, to

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Speaker 1: to me seemed like a bit of a shoe out,

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Speaker 1: but at least but the Bridgerton thing is they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the race doesn't matter. This is seventeenth eighteenth century England

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Speaker 1: eighteenth or nineteenth century England, and you're just not supposed

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Speaker 1: to recognize that they have random people playing what would

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Speaker 1: have clearly been white women or white men from the

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Speaker 1: Jane Austen novels. That feels weird to me because it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: race doesn't matter at all, Therefore we're just going to

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Speaker 1: randomly have a bunch of different people who are of

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Speaker 1: itself wouldn't have had people there, right, But if they

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Speaker 1: explained it and they were like, hey, we're redoing Jane

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Speaker 1: Austen and now we've got people from India and people

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Speaker 1: then I would be like, Okay. Like the fictional characters

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Speaker 1: in the context of like you know, James Bond, which

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Speaker 1: is the Captain America, the Little Mermaid, all that seems

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Speaker 1: very reasonable to kind of be able to change the

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Speaker 1: race as you see fit. But the historical context is

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Speaker 1: just weird to me when it's rooted in a particular era,

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Speaker 1: guess they tried to explain why there would be an

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Speaker 1: African person with the Vikings. I doubt that happened very often,

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Speaker 1: but who knows. The Vikings went all over there. There

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Speaker 1: were just you know, in Game of Thrones, a series

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Speaker 1: there were black actors and actresses cast in that series,

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Speaker 1: and they were some of the really actually some of

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Speaker 1: the better characters. I thought in this series, and it

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Speaker 1: all fit within the context of the story that never

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Speaker 1: felt woke, as in people were trying to make some

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Speaker 1: kind of a political decision, political statement. It was no,

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Speaker 1: this is just a part of the story. These are

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Speaker 1: just actors that are coming from different and it's a

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Speaker 1: fantasy realm and it all made sense. So I just

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Speaker 1: becomes problematic. And that's why I mean with the Netflix shows,

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is actually the subject matter decision

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Speaker 1: of the show, right, It's all, yeah, they're they're pushing

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Speaker 1: about transagenda and things like and that's where you say, okay,

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Speaker 1: it also takes you outside of the story. Some of

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Speaker 1: Netflix credit, and this was Vivic Ramaswami was talking with

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