WEBVTT - 3_24 Mick Shots _ Dallas Cowboys 2025.mp3

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Mick Shots screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's time for another week of fun on mix Shots,

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<v Speaker 3>or another hour of fun this week mix Shots Here

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<v Speaker 3>inside the SWBC podcast studio, Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and

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<v Speaker 3>Mickey Spagnola. The star of the show wearing his cowboy

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<v Speaker 3>blue with a big ol' star on his left chest.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's football players on the football field.

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<v Speaker 3>There are well, there was a tour workouts. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a tour going by, and so I couldn't stand there

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<v Speaker 3>and watch and see what playing. It looks like a

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<v Speaker 3>ragtag group.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, well you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, not the tour. Good people are good people,

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<v Speaker 4>My people. Now, the guys out there, they just all

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<v Speaker 4>kind of nobody had on anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Blue, you know what I mean, So you'll look like cowboy.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll appreciate this.

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<v Speaker 5>So watching the rehab group, which in the morning, as

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<v Speaker 5>we've seen Sam Williams and that John the tight End,

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<v Speaker 5>Steven Stephens Stephens always.

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<v Speaker 2>I always forget.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say Phillipsodan Stephens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, brother or brother half brother?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Out there watching the workout was Charles Haley.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so Charles.

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<v Speaker 2>Here first thing in the morning, keeping an eye on

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Williams.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to work out in the workout in.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's standing there.

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<v Speaker 5>His workout in was last week when I said the

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<v Speaker 5>apocalypse is upon us. He had two grandchildren he was watching.

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<v Speaker 5>They couldn't have been more than two three years old,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's chasing them around on the field and he.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of picks, you know, kind of like what he

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<v Speaker 4>used to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, truly too. I said, all the world's ready to

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<v Speaker 5>end as somebody's trust in him with grandkids.

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<v Speaker 3>He's granddad.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so there was football people out there.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, very good man. It's a beautiful day, beautiful week.

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<v Speaker 3>How's your bracket doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do one.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't do one. I did one. And it's actually

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<v Speaker 3>doing better with this transfer portal and nil stuff. There

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<v Speaker 3>aren't as many upsets as what.

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<v Speaker 2>They're well they're having.

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<v Speaker 3>It has got all the power forward teams that are

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<v Speaker 3>in the sweet Sea.

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<v Speaker 5>There's been one and it's too soon to talk about it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>what I said, there's been one upset and I said its.

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<v Speaker 3>Missouri, Missouri, Colorado State. Drake Drake, Oh, Drake, coach just

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<v Speaker 3>got a new job. He's now the Iowa coach.

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<v Speaker 2>He got Thank you, he got the job.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I always said to show me, I'll show you, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>take care of Missouri.

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<v Speaker 2>And now he's so he just moved right down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Yep, yep. All right. So there's plenty to

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<v Speaker 3>get to, yes, and but off the top, let's pay

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<v Speaker 3>tribute to one of the great sports broadcasters of our

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<v Speaker 3>era who passed away at the age of ninety nine yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>the great Bill Mercer, who was the Cowboys, the voice

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<v Speaker 3>of the Cowboys back in the late sixties and early seventies.

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<v Speaker 3>He was actually the original radio voice of the Texas

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<v Speaker 3>Rangers baseball team too, in nineteen seventy two. Some of

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<v Speaker 3>you may remember him as being the voice of World

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<v Speaker 3>Class Wrestling Saturday Night Wrestling on Channel eleven, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>probably best remembered for that. And then University of North Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>There have been so many sports broadcasters who come out

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<v Speaker 3>of that school and it's basically the Bill Mercer school

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<v Speaker 3>of sports broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 2>And he did a heck of a job.

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<v Speaker 5>And I didn't realize before the Cowboys JFK, JFK and

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<v Speaker 5>the Dallas Texans. Okay, Douglas had a cut from him

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<v Speaker 5>selling tickets. It was a promo radio promo for the Dallas.

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<v Speaker 3>Texans, the American Football League, Dallas Texans.

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<v Speaker 5>But he also has and I think Chris has it,

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<v Speaker 5>probably ready to go, a play by play cut from

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<v Speaker 5>the Cowboys Super Bowl victory against Miami Dolphins back in

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<v Speaker 5>would have been January of seventy two.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct tracks in.

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<v Speaker 6>A tight end on the right side, Thomas Garrison of

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<v Speaker 6>the backfield.

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<v Speaker 7>All words of them.

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<v Speaker 6>Both tight ends are enough. Garrison right, Thomas left, second

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<v Speaker 6>to go a three yard line saw back looks to

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<v Speaker 6>this left, check to the right at the three. Bet

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<v Speaker 6>you out of Thomas. Dwayne up inside of the five

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<v Speaker 6>with the rake Thomas.

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<v Speaker 8>He made a great move on ton of Connie, fired

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<v Speaker 8>in to the blackfield. Think bring Wayne Thomas left one

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<v Speaker 8>side of it, lancedalwarth It looks like the true fatty

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<v Speaker 8>and he goes lathy off the field, lapping.

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<v Speaker 6>His hands together.

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<v Speaker 8>Three The Cowboys and wracked them.

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<v Speaker 6>Up down to sixteen to three dry for extra point

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<v Speaker 6>by Clark. It's up, but it's cut Nollas seventeen Miami three.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, that's when Tom Lander was in a good move.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow you think, Yeah, he was never in a good

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<v Speaker 2>mood after the great.

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<v Speaker 3>Names on that bought a Connie Nick Wanna. Connie started

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<v Speaker 3>with Billy Truex was the tidy end for the cowboy

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<v Speaker 3>Allworth Glance Awworth. Dwayne. He did say Dwayne to Dwayne. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was on her first name, base Wayne, Dwayne. He

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<v Speaker 3>was the only guy in the building that was on

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<v Speaker 3>her first name.

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<v Speaker 5>Base Teammates that that cut sounds like somebody talking about

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<v Speaker 5>Babe Ruth hitting a home run.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that old voice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the quick, the quick, Yeah. The boys Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>all of them like this as if they were Ye.

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<v Speaker 4>They were in the choir.

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<v Speaker 9>Like Lindsay Nelson at the night. Some of them for

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<v Speaker 9>cutting Lord Johnny Moss out of the twenty five yard line,

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<v Speaker 9>one of the Mos out of the fifteen yard line,

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<v Speaker 9>Johnny Mousso into the ends, one touchdown out of my may.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's that Oklahoma accent Muskegee Muscogee, Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 3>Muscog Yeah, and Okie from Muscogee.

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<v Speaker 5>He's in the Muscogee High School Athletics Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so he was a ballplayer too. I guess, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what.

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<v Speaker 5>And I also read I didn't realize this. He during

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<v Speaker 5>World War Two.

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<v Speaker 9>He was.

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<v Speaker 5>In service for three years on a ship and one

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<v Speaker 5>of those PT votes too during the whole too.

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<v Speaker 3>So he was born in nineteen twenty six. My mom

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<v Speaker 3>was born in moschool was from Muscoogee, Oklahoma too, really

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<v Speaker 3>about that same era. Not surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>It was something about Oklahoma was was going to grab

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<v Speaker 4>him again. He's going to grab us again with something

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<v Speaker 4>about this.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad from Okema, Oklahoma, just down the road from

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<v Speaker 3>Troy Yeigman's hometown of Henrietta, Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety nine years.

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<v Speaker 3>Ninety nine years old. And I actually you remember listening,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, And I was going to mention first that

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<v Speaker 3>I actually it was just a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe during COVID. Exchanged some emails with Bill Mercer. I

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<v Speaker 3>know what it was. I was trying to track down

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<v Speaker 3>he did. He He was the Ranger's voice on when

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<v Speaker 3>David Clyde made his debut and in nineteen seventy three.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is just a couple of years ago, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to track down from a guy who

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<v Speaker 3>was mentored by Bill Mercer, Mike Kapps, who was a

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<v Speaker 3>longtime radio voice of the Round Rock Express anyway, and

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<v Speaker 3>so he got me in touch with Bill Mercer and

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<v Speaker 3>we exchanged emails. And what I was amazed about with

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<v Speaker 3>him was, I mean, at the time, he's ninety seven

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<v Speaker 3>years old, and he was sharp as attack, even just

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<v Speaker 3>with emails, you know, and that sort of thing. But

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<v Speaker 3>I answer your question, I remember as a kid in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy two first Rangers game ever was. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a week night game on the West Coast at Anaheim

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<v Speaker 3>against the California Angels, and Bill Mercer and Don Drysdale

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<v Speaker 3>were the announcers. Oh way, yep, And I remember it

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<v Speaker 3>was a school night and so I went to bed

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<v Speaker 3>with the transistor radio under my pillow basically and listening

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<v Speaker 3>to the Rangers.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys, did you listen to radio?

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<v Speaker 4>I did not listen to radio, but I was a

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<v Speaker 4>wrestling uh aficionado Fishonado and I was a major fan

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<v Speaker 4>of while who McDaniel.

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma sooner, while who McDaniel, Yeah, play football. This guy

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<v Speaker 3>and the Death Erics. Bill Mercer was very close with

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<v Speaker 3>Von Erics.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean I was, you know, young enough to

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<v Speaker 4>where you know, the dad was still in good shape.

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<v Speaker 3>And did you watch it on Saturday nights? Yes, I

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<v Speaker 3>did too.

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<v Speaker 4>That was my grandmother. She died at one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>four years old. But she would sit there and she

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<v Speaker 4>would press her hair at night. You know, we had

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<v Speaker 4>the women had the hot comb and they would she

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<v Speaker 4>would just sit there and just she was fall asleep

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<v Speaker 4>watching wrestling, and me and my my cousin, who was

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<v Speaker 4>you know, her grandson, we would you just go at

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<v Speaker 4>it all the time in that room while she's over

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<v Speaker 4>there watching wrestling. She fall asleep watching wrestling. And then

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<v Speaker 4>we would be in acting. We're acting what we just

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<v Speaker 4>saw on TV. So we're wrestling on the floor, and

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<v Speaker 4>then she would get mad at us.

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<v Speaker 3>She would hit us with something.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what she would hit us with, but

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<v Speaker 4>hit us with another hot and you guys stopped doing

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<v Speaker 4>on it. So every Saturday night man grandmother's house watching.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Mercer at the North Side Coliseum in Mortatory, mos too.

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<v Speaker 3>But the one, the one that was on TV was

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<v Speaker 3>at the North side Colisee or that's where I fell

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<v Speaker 3>in love with Killer Kowalski. Remember that dominal claw killer

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<v Speaker 3>Colonel Coler. It was a spoiler, know that Van Eric

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<v Speaker 3>had the iron cloth?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, it was the spoiler was the mask.

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<v Speaker 2>He had the mask, and.

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<v Speaker 4>They always tried to take off the mask and would

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<v Speaker 4>just get right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wa got love it scars. There was now the

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<v Speaker 3>one that wore mask.

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<v Speaker 5>And uh yeah, so we should have a special guest

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<v Speaker 5>here that we should knows quite a bit about Bill Mercer.

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<v Speaker 5>If Chris has online, yeah, you said next segment, next second,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, second segment, So I called.

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<v Speaker 2>Him the second thing we do.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, he just felt.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we'll take He just felt left out of

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<v Speaker 4>the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all.

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to take an early break, then let's

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<v Speaker 3>do that. Okay, we're going to take an early break.

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<v Speaker 5>And who do you want to yes, especially half a

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<v Speaker 5>North Texas alone George Dunham, who at one point was

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<v Speaker 5>the Texas Stadium uh pa announcer and uh knows Bill

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<v Speaker 5>Mercer quite well.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so George Dunham joins us as we go

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<v Speaker 3>down memory lane in just a mooment here on mix shots.

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<v Speaker 3>we'll talk about the legacy of Bill Mercer, one of

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<v Speaker 3>to so many in the sports broadcasting community in North Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>In the meantime, Cowboys have a couple of gaping holes

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<v Speaker 3>on their roster. As we reached sort of the end

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<v Speaker 3>of free agency. It's not over yet, obviously, guys can

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<v Speaker 3>be signed at a moment's notice. We're through the first wave.

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<v Speaker 3>We might be through the second wave already by now

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<v Speaker 3>and there, with the exception of Will Greer, there's not

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<v Speaker 3>a backup quarterback on this team and a second wide

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<v Speaker 3>receiver is another what I would say is a gaping hole.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, because the New Orleans Saints just signed Brandon Cook's

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<v Speaker 5>Cooks two year deals.

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<v Speaker 3>Where he started at the first round draft pick. It

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<v Speaker 3>started his career. That was the news on Friday. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be word to stay stay here. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>he wanted to stay. Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 5>Up to thirteen million. I don't think the Cowboys were

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<v Speaker 5>going there.

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<v Speaker 12>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, what is he thirty thirty one, thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>One something in that range? Yep, so fourteen. He was

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<v Speaker 3>a young guy from the end of the league in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 5>Three years, one year with the Patriots, two years with

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<v Speaker 5>the Rams, three years with the Texans, and then so

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<v Speaker 5>two years.

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<v Speaker 3>What did they get with the Calviny it was two

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<v Speaker 3>years up to thirteen million. I don't know what. I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't seen what the he has seen the guarantee.

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<v Speaker 2>But and this last year, remember he he only played

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<v Speaker 2>in eight games.

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<v Speaker 3>He uh half a season with like twenty six catches.

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<v Speaker 4>That's because they worked in the death off season twenty

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<v Speaker 4>six they worked in the death in training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>No, what happened was he did that deal.

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<v Speaker 5>He was getting those blood platelet injections in his knee,

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<v Speaker 5>and it was after the fourth game against the Giants, and.

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<v Speaker 4>He messed up his knee in training camp. He did

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<v Speaker 4>because he was getting his ass worked off spags. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you, no, CD, that's all came from training camp.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's just call it like it was.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he tried to do the injecting.

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<v Speaker 3>Reason that Kyrie got hurt, right, got carried the.

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<v Speaker 5>Loads, he tried to do the injection, and he ended

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<v Speaker 5>up with an infection, and then the knee really never

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<v Speaker 5>came around to the point where he was brandan Cook's,

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<v Speaker 5>which was a shame. He was a good guy in

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<v Speaker 5>the lock.

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<v Speaker 4>He was having a hell of a training camp as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, remember I was saying just what a player he was.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I remember talking to Dac about it, and Dak

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<v Speaker 5>pointed out that, you know, he got off to a

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<v Speaker 5>slow start the year before he goes, But when you're

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<v Speaker 5>throwing the ball to CD and you know everything we're doing,

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<v Speaker 5>he didn't get much of an opportunity. Plus he got

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<v Speaker 5>there late. I think he missed most of the off season.

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<v Speaker 5>So but yeah, he goes. Now you can see what

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<v Speaker 5>he can do with no CD there, and then unfortunately

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<v Speaker 5>the net thing cropped.

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<v Speaker 3>Up and the great influence on those young receivers in

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<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys locker room. I mean, you look at the

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<v Speaker 3>at the receivers the Cowboys have, and obviously behind CD,

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<v Speaker 3>who turns twenty six April eighth, by the way, Cavante,

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<v Speaker 3>Cavante turns twenty nine in August. But beyond that, and

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<v Speaker 3>of course Cavante's just three years into the league now.

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<v Speaker 3>Jayleen Tolbert going into his free agent year, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, contract year, he just turned twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Brooks turns twenty five, and May Ryan Illinois an

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<v Speaker 3>older player coming into the league, is a rookie last year.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually is twenty five years old. Jonathan Mingo turned

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four last week. And then Paris Campbell was signed

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<v Speaker 3>the veteran at the veteran minimum and he's twenty seven

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<v Speaker 3>years old in the second round. Hasn't done much at

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<v Speaker 3>all in the league so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he didn't get much of an opportunity in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, that's an ugly list right then, And so

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's what I'm saying. That's a gaping hole behind

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<v Speaker 3>there is a NFL draft, Okay, drafts a draft, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think they need a veteran guy. And that is

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<v Speaker 3>an ugly list right there. I think there's a Tyler

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<v Speaker 3>Lockett that needs to come into that locker.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a couple of veterans. They're ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right. We now are joined by a very

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<v Speaker 3>special guest. Do you believe in the mean green George? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>George Dunham from sports Radio. Well it was thirteen ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Now what's the what is it now? Ninety six point seven.

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<v Speaker 7>Ninety six seven? Yeah, you can say the ticket. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>whatever you want to call us, we'll answered it. Just

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<v Speaker 7>about anything.

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<v Speaker 3>From the ticket, George. You got Bill Jones, You've got

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<v Speaker 3>Everson Walls, and you've got Mickey Spagnola. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 7>Gosh, I never thought i'd have a day where I

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<v Speaker 7>got to talk to Everson Walls.

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<v Speaker 4>That was going on.

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<v Speaker 7>How you doing? But how number twenty four? Absolutely? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, almost all of my family went to

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<v Speaker 4>North Texas, So is that right? You were in good company,

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<v Speaker 4>from my oldest sisters to my youngest niece.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, that's awesome, awesome. But here's the big

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<v Speaker 3>news last night. North Texas advanced right in it. They're

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<v Speaker 3>into the quarterfinals, going up to still Wat Oklahoma to

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<v Speaker 3>face Oklahoma State on Tuesday night. Tomorrow night'll be packed.

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<v Speaker 4>He's coming from North Texas and Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no one, no one from still Water be there.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, they need to rename the tournament the North

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<v Speaker 7>Texas Invitational.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 7>Tournament's right.

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<v Speaker 3>They won the one at all with Grant McCaslin, who's

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<v Speaker 3>now the Texas Tech coach, as the Red Raiders into

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<v Speaker 3>the Sweet sixteen facing coach cal In Arkansas on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>But George, the reason we've got you here is to

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<v Speaker 3>reminisce a little bit about a guy who is very

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<v Speaker 3>important in your life and of course as a former

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys radio voice going back to the late sixties and

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<v Speaker 3>early seventies, a great impact on so many sports broadcasters

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<v Speaker 3>and came out of the University of North Texas or

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<v Speaker 3>going back in the day, North Texas State University, the

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<v Speaker 3>great Bill Mercer. Let's let's talk about Bill Mercer and

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<v Speaker 3>his impact on you.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, yeah, I found out yesterday. I guess Dave Barnett,

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<v Speaker 7>who's now the voice of the Mean Green contact to

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<v Speaker 7>me and told me the news, and you know, it

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<v Speaker 7>was said, there's been a real emptiness uh for a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of us, even though Bill was at the age

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<v Speaker 7>of ninety nine. What an incredible life. Even so you

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<v Speaker 7>just he just thought, those are the guys that are

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<v Speaker 7>you know that they're always going to be there.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>What a life he had, and what a broadcasting life

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<v Speaker 7>he had. Bill was just a really kind, kind spirit

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<v Speaker 7>and teacher. And I think, you know, with all the

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<v Speaker 7>accolades and we can talk wrestling and cowboys in Dallas,

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<v Speaker 7>Texas and Chicago White Sox and and all that, but uh,

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<v Speaker 7>he was but you know he was. He was an

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<v Speaker 7>instructor at North Texas and the class he taught was

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<v Speaker 7>Sports Broadcasting thirty three thirty. It's still taught today by

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<v Speaker 7>my good friend Hank Dickinson. And when you took that class,

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<v Speaker 7>it was like a rite of passage. You know. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>now in a classroom where where Craig Way once sat,

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<v Speaker 7>and Dave Barnett and Ted Davis who was a longtime

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<v Speaker 7>voice of the Mavericks and Milwaukee Bucks, and David Hatchett

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<v Speaker 7>and all these names that we heard about. Phillis George,

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<v Speaker 7>the first female network sportscaster was influenced by Bill and

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<v Speaker 7>his tutelage at North Texas. And this is not an exaggeration.

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<v Speaker 7>He impacted thousands of lives. And maybe they didn't go

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<v Speaker 7>into broadcasting, maybe they went into something else, or maybe

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<v Speaker 7>they never got in front of the camera or in

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<v Speaker 7>front of the microphone. But you learn so much from

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<v Speaker 7>Bill's class and when you can sit down and say

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<v Speaker 7>it was helped me out with the date here Mick

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<v Speaker 7>and Bill, it was New Year's Eve nineteen sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 7>I do believe the Ice Bowl and Blackie Sheridan and

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<v Speaker 7>I had our coffee in front of us that it

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<v Speaker 7>was frozen. And I mean he called the ice Bowl.

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<v Speaker 7>He called North Texas football when Abner Haynes broke the

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<v Speaker 7>color barrier ten years before Jerry Lebias did at SMU.

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<v Speaker 7>Leon King and Abner Haynes played at North Texas and

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<v Speaker 7>what they went through, and he told us those stories

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<v Speaker 7>about you know, going on a train to Houston and

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<v Speaker 7>they wouldn't let the North Texas football team stay there

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<v Speaker 7>because they had two black players, and so the North

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<v Speaker 7>Texas football team stayed on the train. And you know, well,

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<v Speaker 7>I got two angry birds in my friend from each other.

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry about that, but you know, he just he told

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<v Speaker 7>us stories like that. They were so intact. And there

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<v Speaker 7>he was as a young reporter in nineteen sixty three,

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<v Speaker 7>and he did news, he did sports, he did Highland

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<v Speaker 7>Park football. And here he is in November of nineteen

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<v Speaker 7>sixty three getting ready to do a Highland Park football

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<v Speaker 7>game and the president of the United States was assassinated

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<v Speaker 7>in Dallas. And there he is at a press conference

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<v Speaker 7>surrounded by news men from all over the country. And

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<v Speaker 7>it was Bill Mercer who asked Lee Harvey Oswald or

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<v Speaker 7>told him, by the way, you've been charged with murdering

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<v Speaker 7>the president of the United States, Did you know that

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<v Speaker 7>he was an incredible reporter? And all of that being said,

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<v Speaker 7>and whether he was talking to you know, a Von

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<v Speaker 7>Eric or Lee Harvey Oswald play by play came back

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<v Speaker 7>to it because he could tell a story. He could,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, he could. He used to tell us a

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<v Speaker 7>story about when he was reporting on a fire Dallas

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<v Speaker 7>and he went live and he described it and the

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<v Speaker 7>news director apparently told him that's the greatest news report

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<v Speaker 7>I've ever heard. And it was because he was doing

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<v Speaker 7>play by play, he was descriptive about the flames and

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<v Speaker 7>the smoke and what the firemen were doing, and and

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<v Speaker 7>beyond all that, he was just kind.

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, he.

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 7>He really was. He was really kind to all of

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:28.119
<v Speaker 7>us and incutting me. And you know, Bill and I

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 7>at one point had our differences, and you know, it

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:37.880
<v Speaker 7>was a very complicated situation when I eventually replaced him

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 7>as the voice of the Mean Green and some of

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 7>that was my fault of how everything happened. And I'm

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 7>so thankful that since then, you know, we talked and

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 7>he showed such grace and understanding with me, and that's

0:26:56.760 --> 0:27:00.119
<v Speaker 7>just you know, the essence of who he was. He

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 7>was just careerly a really kind, kind and intelligent man.

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 2>George.

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 5>You didn't get to Dallas in time to be able

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 5>to hear any of his broadcast live as a young kid.

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 7>No, I The first I saw of him, ironically, was

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 7>when I lived in Chicago and he's sitting next to

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 7>Harry Carey. It was he did White Sox baseball and

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 7>Channel forty four, and I was there every night for it.

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:35.239
<v Speaker 7>And then when I moved down here, I saw him

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 7>doing wrestling and I thought, man, this this guy has

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 7>a tough gig. That's the guy I used to do

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 7>the White Sox. And here he is, you know, talking

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 7>to some wrestler and the chairs being hit over someone

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 7>head in the background. And then, you know, I heard

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 7>about his legendary status in North Texas when I went there.

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 7>But I went there as a business major. And then

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 7>I met Craig Miller and he told me that he

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 7>was a broadcast major. I didn't even know they had that.

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 7>And then I met Bill, and that just changed my life.

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 7>It changed the trajectory of what I was interested in.

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.360
<v Speaker 7>I you know, I thought, wow, I never even thought

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 7>about being a sports broadcaster.

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 3>That sounds great, George, George, George. I wonder what it

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 3>sounded like when Bill Mercer and Harry Carey were in

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 3>the booth together. How about how about we reenact for

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:26.439
<v Speaker 3>just a moment.

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 4>Here.

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 3>I'll be Bill, you be Harry Carey, and Wilberwood. The

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 3>knuckleballer is on the island for the Chicago White Sox.

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 3>And here's the pitch, Harry, you take it from here.

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 7>Here's the pitch, and that it's outside for ball four.

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 7>You know, you think you pay a guy one hundred

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 7>and twenty thousand dollars a year Bill, and they could

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 7>get it over the plate. I love it, George, but

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 7>you know, and that was that was the thing too

0:28:56.360 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 7>about about Bill. He he was critical without cutting, you know.

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 7>And he one thing that he always got on me.

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 7>And everyone assumes, oh, you took sports broadcasting. That was

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 7>probably a blowoff class. Hey, I did not make an A.

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 7>I made a B. And it killed me because you know,

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 7>only the best of the best made an A, and

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 7>I thought, you know, but again it was one of

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 7>those times where he pulled me aside and he said,

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:25.719
<v Speaker 7>I gave you a B because I know you can

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 7>be better. And it made me work to get better.

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 7>And you know, and again that was just a teaching

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 7>moment for him. And yeah, he was and all that

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 7>would be enough for a lifetime, But then you you

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 7>fight for our country on a little pet boat in

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 7>the South Pacific, and Bill went through some serious battles

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 7>and saw some terrible, terrible things and he never really

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 7>talked specifics about those arrible things that he saw, but

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 7>he that that's part of what made him. I think

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 7>he was so intelligent. You know, he was world traveled

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 7>and he read a lot and he just knew a

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 7>lot and would make references that you know, a students

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 7>would look at each other and go, not hear a

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 7>boxy where is that?

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 7>And but but he would one of the things I

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 7>was getting to that he would work with me. He'd

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 7>probably be telling me that, right now, smile when you broadcast,

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 7>this is supposed to be fun, you know. And I

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 7>think I was just sweating bullets trying to get names

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 7>and numbers right that I didn't often enjoy the broadcasts.

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 7>And it's something I've really worked on through the years.

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 7>And he could tell that just by listening to your tape.

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 7>You know, he'd say, well, are you smiling? And I'd say, well, no,

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 7>well why not. You're at a ball game, you know,

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 7>this is this is great and the people who are

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 7>listening that want to enjoy the game, they can't enjoy

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 7>it if someone's on the other end and all he

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 7>does is criticize and he's not smiling. That's just one

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 7>of the I mean, I could go on and on,

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 7>which is the helpful hints that he gave as to

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 7>make you a better broadcaster, but also just to I

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 7>think make you a better person.

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 3>George.

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 5>A couple of years ago, didn't you guys have some

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 5>sort of reunion with him.

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 2>With a bunch of the guys that we did, you know,

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>and this is.

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 7>I thought about this, and I'm so glad we did it.

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 7>A few of us got together, a lot of those

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 7>names that I mentioned, Craig and Don Harris who you

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 7>know Bill really well, and San Antonio and guys we

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 7>went to school with, and people and girls that came

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 7>before us, and we got a group together from the sixties,

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 7>seventies and the eighties and nineties and the aunts. And

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 7>of course, if you're going to name anything after or

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 7>someone these days, you got to raise money to do it.

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 7>But that's just part of the thing. And we raise

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 7>some money. And you know, anytime you cover a game

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 7>at North Texas and you go to app which is

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 7>now back to stadium, and you go to you know,

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 7>the dining services, the media room, it's the Bill Mercer

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 7>media room, and there's pictures of Bill. One of his

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 7>old headsets is up there. And it was it was

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 7>a really cool reunion and it was really neat hearing

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 7>from people who were put on the air in the

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 7>nineteen sixties, and you know, they were talking about going

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:46.959
<v Speaker 7>on the air and telling Bill, Hey, I don't agree

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 7>with what's going on in our country right now, and

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 7>Bill say will say it, you know, and that's that's

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 7>your job as a broadcaster. You know, you can you

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 7>can have some editorial commentary. And you know, Bill was

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 7>right out there with him, and.

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 10>He was just he was.

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 7>It was almost like a Forrest Gump like life that

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 7>he had, you know, the high school Harry Carry, you know, Lee,

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 7>Harvey Oswald, Abner Haynes, the minor league baseball teams in

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 7>Dallas and Fort Worth that he did, the Dallas Texans

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 7>when the AFL came to town, you know. And and

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 7>Bill was right there in the middle of it.

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 3>And perhaps best known for his relationship with the vin

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Erics and world class wrestling.

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and Dave Barnett always quotes that that he was.

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 7>They took a poll in Saudi Arabia at one point

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 7>it was like the vn Erics, Scan Bar Act Bar

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 7>and Bill were the most oder people in Saudi Arabia

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 7>at the time. I mean, and when we would go

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 7>on the road doing North Texas and I worked with

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 7>Bill as a student, but I came back in nineteen

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 7>ninety and we worked together ninety through ninety three and

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 7>we would go to Lake Charles, Nakatish, Jonesboro, Arkansas, and

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 7>all those stops in Louisiana, and you would think we

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 7>were traveling with Elvis when we would walk into a restaurant. Hey,

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 7>that's the wrestling guy. Can I have your autograph? Can

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 7>you autograph my menu and say that you ate at

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 7>my restaurant? I mean, yeah, people loved Bill.

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 3>It's got to like Vern lundquisty Vern Lundquist did so

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 3>many great events from the Masters to the Cowboys, NFL,

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 3>the SEC. But he's best known for bolling for dollars.

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely.

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I remember that's right, bowing for dollars. Well, well, George,

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:54.919
<v Speaker 3>we appreciate you reliving some of the memories with Bill

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 3>Mercer and great impact on so many I mean, from

0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 3>you to Craig Miller. I mean you mentioned several of

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.919
<v Speaker 3>them there, but there are so many that have gone

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 3>on to great careers. Who mentioned Craig Way with the

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 3>University of Texas, Mark Folwell with the Mavericks, Dave Barnett

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 3>for decades, and you know, at such an early age

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 3>became the Mavericks play by play guy. I think he's

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.399
<v Speaker 3>twenty three years old, basically fresh out of the Bill

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Mercer School of Broadcasting and so many more, the younger

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 3>ones like Ted Emrick and you know, Rich Phillips at SMU,

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 3>and then goes the list goes on and on.

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 7>It really does. And I appreciate you guys talking about Bill.

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.760
<v Speaker 7>And it's really been gratifying the last twenty four hours

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 7>watching newscast and podcasts and radio and newspaper and they're

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 7>talking about Bill and he deserves it because he was

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 7>He was a legend. And yeah, they just don't they

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 7>don't make them like that anymore, for sure.

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 3>All right, George Dunham from ARGE, we appreciate you joining

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<v Speaker 7>Off CEA believe that Joe Montana was throwing it away.

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I promise you he was.

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 10>I know.

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm with you, all right, George, appreciate it, See you guys,

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<v Speaker 3>Right, very good. Great to have George Dunham on and again.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Mercer was the voice of the Cowboys during the

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<v Speaker 3>Ice Bowl, first super Bowls and great legacy? Mickey? What

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<v Speaker 3>else you got there on your legal pad.

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<v Speaker 5>In our last Well, I think we can pick up

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<v Speaker 5>where we left off and look into your big green

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<v Speaker 5>notebook on wide receivers. Since we said that there seems

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<v Speaker 5>to be a void there, well, I'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Called it a sad list. Let's just call it what

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<v Speaker 3>it is. Sad. You know, that's a good idea round

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<v Speaker 3>to there. It's there aren't very many what I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>the Green notebook would say are first round wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 3>so you can get a wide receivers later in the draft,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's not the first round. There is T Mac

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 3>from Arizona. You you like the Teteroa McMillan. It's his name, Okay,

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:53.359
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't say this first. He's he's a big six

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.439
<v Speaker 3>four wide receiver, so he'll go buy T Mac. Yeah.

0:39:56.520 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 3>T Mac is just annoying by T Mac. You like

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 3>Matthew Golden from Texas. And by the way, Texas Pro

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Day is tomorrow, and I'm going, are you really yes? Okay?

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Like Isaiah Bond too, don't you? Yes?

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, That's why I'm going mysel.

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Because Isaiah Bond or Matthew Golden. Both of them are

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 3>checking out those wide receivers.

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 2>That's right. I'll have a report out of next Monday.

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 3>They'll have a quarterback throwing to them as well. They

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 3>will yours who By the way, the reports are out

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 3>there that he has a visit with the Cowboys. Of

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 3>course he's a Dallas Day guy. But also there's a

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 3>report this morning that yours has thirty visits with a

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 3>number of teams, including the Cowboys.

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 5>So the two wide receivers from ut first round, mid round,

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 5>late round, too early at twelve.

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 3>I would say it's too early at twelve, But when

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 3>you run a four to nine, that's going to catch

0:40:57.040 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 3>the attention, you know. And xavier' Worthy. Now Golden was

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 3>at Texas just one year, sixteen games and one year

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 3>fifty eight catches. Be it Houston who was at Houston

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 3>prior to that for two years. He also has kick

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 3>return ability and return two kicks for touchdowns at Houston.

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 3>So we saw the run on wide receivers at the

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 3>end of the first round beginning of the second round

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 3>last year. It just kind of depends where that run

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 3>starts this draft at running back is really good. Defensive

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 3>line looks to be really deep. Now, what happens on

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 3>that is sometimes because there's so many running backs, because

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 3>there's so many defensive linemen, maybe you want to get

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 3>your wide receiver earlier because of that, because they'll go

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 3>quicker and they're not as deep. Maybe, but so you

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 3>never know how it's going to play out. But typically

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 3>I think it's you'll find your wide receivers that are

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Golden size five eleven one ninety. But with that speed.

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 3>The speed gets him into the first round, and but

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 3>the size would put him in the second or third round.

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:11.399
<v Speaker 3>Both of them small. Let me sit fine bond here.

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 3>They're both similar size. To answer your question, yet under

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 3>six feet yeah for around that.

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 2>But he could be more than a slot receiver.

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Gold Golden, Sure, okay, he can play outside.

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 5>Well, they've got guys that can play outside. I mean,

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 5>all the guys you just mentioned that are the Cowboys

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:43.240
<v Speaker 5>have rights to. I don't know that there's a typical

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 5>slot receiver among them. If you think about it now,

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:56.399
<v Speaker 5>they would do well for well. I mean Turpin can

0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 5>run out of the slot. CD has done it. In

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 5>that group you mentioned the guy that needs an opportunity

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 5>and he's got to be able to take advantage of it.

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Is Mingo.

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, that guy was awfully good at Old Miss,

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 5>and he really didn't do much in Carolina. I don't

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 5>know if that has to do with the quarterback play

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:30.479
<v Speaker 5>while he was there, but I mean, as a number

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 5>two guy outside, pretty darn good. You know.

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.919
<v Speaker 4>I recall when I was playing ball. I mean even

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 4>going back to high school, I always knew that the

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 4>off season was my ticket. Never was a good first impression. Guy,

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:51.959
<v Speaker 4>never did a wow any coaches right off the bat.

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 4>But if you could just just let me work in,

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 4>let me work in, and let me show you what

0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 4>I can do. You're not going to do that during

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 4>the season. Got to do it, and back then we

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 4>would do it in the spring. The spring ball was

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 4>when you made your move, whether it was high school

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 4>or whether it was college, and when you came to

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 4>when you came to camp, you better do something to

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:16.399
<v Speaker 4>show people what you got inside of you. I don't

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:20.799
<v Speaker 4>think he's Mingo has taken that. He hasn't taken that leap.

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 4>You have to have that leap. You have to have

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 4>confidence in yourself to take that leap, to be able

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 4>to say I'm going to go out here and show

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 4>you what I show.

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 3>What's going to be crucial for him is here. In

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 3>just a couple of weeks, the Cowboys start there, I

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:35.240
<v Speaker 3>mean because.

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 2>They get that coach.

0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 3>They get after time he got is April, May and June.

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 3>What he shows to the coaches, he got to show

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:43.839
<v Speaker 3>and got to show. Worry.

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 4>If you're gonna be if you're gonna be lukewarm and

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 4>doing this time of your career, then that's all you got.

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 3>You can't bring.

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.879
<v Speaker 4>If you can't bring it out of yourself to show

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 4>them exactly what you have to have the confidence and

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 4>the courage to show them what you can do, then

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 4>then you're never gonna go. You're never gonna advance towards

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 4>where you are right now. If he's gonna do this,

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 4>and we talk about his side, talking about what he

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 4>did old miss somehow, he's got to bring that back.

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what happened in Carolina, right, Yeah, I

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 4>don't know what happened in Carolina, but he got to

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 4>bring that bag. He has to show and with the

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 4>DBS that he has out here. One advantage I had

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 4>when I went to the Giants. The Giants didn't have

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 4>good wide receivers. So I look good in practice?

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Why didn't this guy playing one?

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 10>Right?

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:33.360
<v Speaker 4>I look great? I mean he can't. You know, no

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 4>one could catch anything. He's out here working now against

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 4>some dbs that he should be able to beat. He

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 4>should be able to show us what he can do

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:44.760
<v Speaker 4>against average dbs. He better starts showing it now because

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 4>that list. We are not going anywhere with that list.

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't care how good your running back is. You've

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 4>got to have some guys that's willing to step up.

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 4>And I'm talking about tob It as well. They got

0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 4>us do more than what I've seen because other while

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 4>we're looking at a quarterback who's going to get hurt

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 4>again trying to wait for these wide receivers to get open.

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 4>You can't just keep looking at one all the time.

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 4>You got to look at a team of receivers that

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 4>you can have, that you can depend on like clockwork.

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:17.879
<v Speaker 4>It's got to be the system has to be able

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 4>to You have to work within the system to make

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 4>yourself good to where you can say, okay, he can

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:26.759
<v Speaker 4>depend on me on second and thirteen. You know he

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:29.400
<v Speaker 4>can depend on me in critical moments of a ballgame.

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 4>Right now, I don't know if that list is going

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 4>to work it for us.

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 3>I would like to go down the running back road here,

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:42.320
<v Speaker 3>because you've got Pro days this week. We mentioned Texas

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 3>is tomorrow, Ohio State is Wednesday. Got a couple of

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:51.839
<v Speaker 3>Pro days today, which two running backs from Ohio State.

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:55.840
<v Speaker 3>A couple of running backs working out today Pro days

0:46:56.000 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 3>at North Carolina Omari and Hampton, and at Iowa Klee Johnson.

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 3>But the two Ohio State guys quin Shawn Judkins and

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Travion Henderson. I've been looking at these guys and this

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 3>is where cowboys are going to be. They're going to

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:15.360
<v Speaker 3>find them. Well running back. Yeah, my draft in the

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 3>draft and it's going to be in the top hundred picks. Okay,

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:20.440
<v Speaker 3>we're not waiting till the fourth round here, right? Are

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:21.839
<v Speaker 3>we an agreement on that? Yeah?

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 4>I agree, because once again that list of y is ugly. Yeah,

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 4>that's why you need a running back.

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 2>So when they had the assistant coach interviews.

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 5>The end of Febebruary, yeah, somewhere in there, I was

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 5>looking at everything.

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh, we're looking at some video here. Thirty two for

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Ohio State is Travion Henderson five eleven two O two

0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:54.240
<v Speaker 3>ran a four to four to three at the forty

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.719
<v Speaker 3>ren for one thousand yards seven point one yards to

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 3>carry ten touchdowns, had twenty seven for another two hundred

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 3>and eighty four yards. Team captain at Ohio State. That

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 3>was it. Those are his senior year overs.

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Which one's the Ohio State.

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 3>This is Ohio State. Number thirty two Treveon Henderson.

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and.

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 5>The other guy Quinn showIn John Judkins Unkins who had

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:26.839
<v Speaker 5>a pretty good playoff run. Both of those guys are

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:28.360
<v Speaker 5>first round picks right.

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, they could be. They could be first rounders, or

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 3>they could because you know teams and team needs and

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing and feelings about running backs in general.

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Number one is Quinn Shawn Judkins.

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:43.720
<v Speaker 4>How was the injury of history?

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:47.359
<v Speaker 3>It appears that they've been healthy throughout their career. Now

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Judkins here, number one. He's a bigger back, six foot

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:53.759
<v Speaker 3>two twenty one. Ran a four to four eight with

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.480
<v Speaker 3>a thirty eight and a half vertical on eleven broad jump,

0:48:56.680 --> 0:49:00.040
<v Speaker 3>so he's got a good explosion. Yeah, and he he

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:02.879
<v Speaker 3>started his career at Ole Miss. He was first team

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 3>All SEC in twenty three at ole Miss. His first

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 3>year at ole Miss, he ran for fifteen hundred and

0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 3>sixty seven yards and sixteen touchdowns. And this this year,

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I told you what Henderson did at Ohio State with

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 3>one thousand yards and ten touchdowns. Well, Judkins had one

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 3>thousand yards and fourteen touchdowns.

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 5>And I heard a interview with Henderson yep, And the

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 5>question was, so you saw Judkins transferring to Ohio State.

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:40.959
<v Speaker 2>What went through your mind?

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 5>Were you thinking, oh, I got to go and he goes, no,

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 5>he goes, We're going to compete, and he goes, if

0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 5>he's that good, then we're going to have a hell

0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 5>of a competition.

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 2>And this was before the and I'm going, okay, I

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 2>like that.

0:49:56.280 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 5>I like the way he handled the entire interview and

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:04.320
<v Speaker 5>it was from the combine and it's.

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:05.760
<v Speaker 4>Like a Jalen Hurt situation.

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, And so don't.

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 5>Be afraid of the competition. So what I was going

0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 5>to tell you when you went into that, if you

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:19.520
<v Speaker 5>look at what the Cowboys have done putting this staff together,

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 5>starting with Schottenheimer when he was offensive coordinator Seattle uh

0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:32.360
<v Speaker 5>and the Jets, he had dynamic running games. There was

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:35.879
<v Speaker 5>a couple of times once with the Jets they led

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:37.120
<v Speaker 5>the league in rushing.

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 2>He did it in.

0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 3>SEETFC championship game that year, too, right, and Seattle led

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:41.799
<v Speaker 3>the league.

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 5>Also, it's right and so, and then look who he hired.

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:52.560
<v Speaker 5>And I think, I want to say Miles Sanders might

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 5>have said it. He goes, they asked him about coming

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 5>here in the running game, and he goes, well, you

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 5>don't always see the offensive coordinator is an offensive line coach.

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 5>So they have made I think a priority hiring Clayton Adams,

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:13.920
<v Speaker 5>a proven offensive line coach who had been an offensive

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:18.879
<v Speaker 5>coordinator line coach in college the last two years at Arizona,

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 5>and they ran the ball and someone said, well, that's

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 5>because of Kyle Murray. Well, Murray ran well the first year.

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 5>The second year he didn't have but two hundred yards rushing.

0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:35.520
<v Speaker 5>So James Connor was running back, yes, and he flourished.

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 5>Arizona's ran for more yards than they had in sixteen

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 5>years with him as the offensive line coach. Then you

0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 5>hire a offensive line coach who had been the OC

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:57.320
<v Speaker 5>and offensive line coach at Kansas State, Connor Riley, Connor Riley.

0:51:57.760 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 5>And so I'm sitting there looking at this and I'm saying, well,

0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 5>they seem to be making a priority of this running game.

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:09.279
<v Speaker 5>So when Schottenheimer was walking off when the assistants were

0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 5>doing the interview, I said, am I right to think

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 5>that you're putting an emphasis on the running game? And

0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:23.319
<v Speaker 5>he goes, I'd say that's accurate. And then I said,

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 5>and the hires you made.

0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:29.879
<v Speaker 2>Was it intentional to boost the running game? He says,

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I think so.

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.080
<v Speaker 5>He says, I've been tracking some of these guys for

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:36.200
<v Speaker 5>a long time. And he pointed out that, you know,

0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:38.879
<v Speaker 5>when he was an offensive coordinator, he had to put

0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:42.600
<v Speaker 5>staffs together, so he kept his eye on some of

0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 5>these up and coming coaches, not only in the NFL,

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:49.400
<v Speaker 5>but in college too. And then if you look at

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 5>Lunda Wells, the tight end coach, well he was an

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:55.320
<v Speaker 5>offensive line He was an offensive lineman at LSU, and

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:58.840
<v Speaker 5>he was an offensive line coach before he got the

0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 5>tight ends here. So to me, they want to make

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 5>this running game go, whether it's the guys they have

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<v Speaker 5>now or adding somebody at least one guy in the

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<v Speaker 5>first two rounds.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, One other note on these two Ohio State

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<v Speaker 3>running backs. Henderson is the more veteran of the two.

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<v Speaker 3>He was at Ohio State for four years. He ranks

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<v Speaker 3>top five all time Ohio State running backs. Can you

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<v Speaker 3>name any Ohio State running backs from the past starting

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<v Speaker 3>with Archie Griffin? Number two on the list JK. Dobbins,

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<v Speaker 3>Three is Zeke four, Eddie George In. Number five is

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<v Speaker 3>Trevion Henderson as far as all time rushing at Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing that I picked up on from him

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<v Speaker 3>is he seems to be really good as a past protector,

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:56.600
<v Speaker 3>a very physical, good blocker, and so he may be

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<v Speaker 3>as a every down back type. He may be more

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<v Speaker 3>ready to go right now than Judkins. But I love

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<v Speaker 3>Judkins too as far as his strength, Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I like it. I like well Henderson too. Henderson at

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<v Speaker 3>a thirty eight and a half vertical and ten eight

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<v Speaker 3>broad jump, both of them are very similar. I like it.

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<v Speaker 4>I like Henderson's running style a little bit better, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>only because.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more elusive. Yeah to the right, not that he

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<v Speaker 3>would be would write more effective. All right, Then there's

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<v Speaker 3>North Carolina. They got their pro dated day Omaron Hampton

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of people are ranking him just behind

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<v Speaker 3>Ashton Genty is the number two running back. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 3>just saw those Ohio State backs. Well, this guy must

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<v Speaker 3>really be something if we have if he ranks right

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<v Speaker 3>behind him six foot two hundred and twenty one pounds,

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<v Speaker 3>very similar to the numbers on Quinchan Judkins with four four,

0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:53.799
<v Speaker 3>six forty and a thirty eight vertical and a ten

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<v Speaker 3>ten broad jump. Was the machine broken at the combine?

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<v Speaker 3>They're all got the same numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just put this at Hampton at North Carolina the

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<v Speaker 3>last couple of years, over two hundred and fifty rushing

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<v Speaker 3>attempts over fifteen hundred yards both years and average very

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:15.920
<v Speaker 3>consistent five point nine yards of carry and scored fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>touchdowns both years at North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, how good are these as receiving backs?

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<v Speaker 7>I think that.

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<v Speaker 3>Hampton had thirty Hampton had thirty eight catches for three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and seventy three yards and two touchdowns his senior year.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing on Judkins with Ohio State, he did not

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<v Speaker 3>look as natural catching the ball as what Henderson did too.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the other thing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let's just say we have this issue with wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just talked about the young man. If you

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<v Speaker 4>have a shifty running back that can also be a

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<v Speaker 4>good pass receiver. If you have a tight end that's

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<v Speaker 4>going to block well for you, then he's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be your best friend in play action. So I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>at this list that we have, not just the wide

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<v Speaker 4>receiver list, but the entire roster that we could potentially have.

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<v Speaker 3>If we're going to be running the ball, then those.

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<v Speaker 4>Counters, those other options are going to be extremely important.

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<v Speaker 2>Your tight ends got to know how to block and

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<v Speaker 2>catch a ball.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to have more than one good tight end

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<v Speaker 4>that can do that, and you it'd be best if

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<v Speaker 4>you don't have a good number two receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you're running back.

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<v Speaker 4>He needs to be a very shifty and good pass

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<v Speaker 4>catching running.

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<v Speaker 2>Back as well well.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's where at least one of the two guys

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<v Speaker 5>they've signed now Devant Williams, Fonte Williams and Miles Sanders.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to keep a veteran running back, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Those guys have been pretty good in the passing as

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<v Speaker 5>I remembered.

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<v Speaker 3>Because Sanders, I think you're keeping both those guys. I

0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 3>don't think either one of them is Royce Freeman.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you believe.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you keep both of those guys plus a rookie,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Douce fits in if if he can.

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<v Speaker 2>If he can somewhere. But I was looking up there

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<v Speaker 2>those guys, or.

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<v Speaker 3>Beat Douce beats out one of those guys.

0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 5>And those guys in the passing game previously have been

0:57:22.840 --> 0:57:26.360
<v Speaker 5>pretty good catching the ball. Now, Williams had to come

0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 5>back from his torn acl Actually he hit the triple

0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:33.960
<v Speaker 5>crown in knee injury his second year in Denver, so

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 5>he's two years removed from it now, so you would

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<v Speaker 5>hope that he can get back.

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<v Speaker 3>He had won eight game stretch last year and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what happened