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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This is Mick Shots screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: And it's time for another week of fun on mix Shots,

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Speaker 3: or another hour of fun this week mix Shots Here

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Speaker 3: inside the SWBC podcast studio, Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and

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Speaker 3: Mickey Spagnola. The star of the show wearing his cowboy

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Speaker 3: blue with a big ol' star on his left chest.

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Speaker 2: And there's football players on the football field.

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Speaker 3: There are well, there was a tour workouts. There was

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Speaker 3: a tour going by, and so I couldn't stand there

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Speaker 3: and watch and see what playing. It looks like a

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Speaker 3: ragtag group.

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Speaker 2: Actually, well you guys.

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Speaker 4: No, no, not the tour. Good people are good people,

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Speaker 4: My people. Now, the guys out there, they just all

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Speaker 4: kind of nobody had on anything.

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Speaker 2: Blue, you know what I mean, So you'll look like cowboy.

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Speaker 2: You'll appreciate this.

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Speaker 5: So watching the rehab group, which in the morning, as

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Speaker 5: we've seen Sam Williams and that John the tight End,

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Speaker 5: Steven Stephens Stephens always.

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Speaker 2: I always forget.

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Speaker 3: I want to say Phillipsodan Stephens.

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Speaker 2: Yes, brother or brother half brother?

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Out there watching the workout was Charles Haley.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so Charles.

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Speaker 2: Here first thing in the morning, keeping an eye on

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Speaker 2: Sam Williams.

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Speaker 4: He's going to work out in the workout in.

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Speaker 2: No, he's standing there.

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Speaker 5: His workout in was last week when I said the

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Speaker 5: apocalypse is upon us. He had two grandchildren he was watching.

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Speaker 5: They couldn't have been more than two three years old,

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Speaker 5: and he's chasing them around on the field and he.

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Speaker 4: Kind of picks, you know, kind of like what he

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Speaker 4: used to do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, truly too. I said, all the world's ready to

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Speaker 5: end as somebody's trust in him with grandkids.

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Speaker 3: He's granddad.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, so there was football people out there.

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Speaker 3: All right, very good man. It's a beautiful day, beautiful week.

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Speaker 3: How's your bracket doing.

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Speaker 2: I didn't do one.

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Speaker 3: He didn't do one. I did one. And it's actually

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Speaker 3: doing better with this transfer portal and nil stuff. There

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Speaker 3: aren't as many upsets as what.

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Speaker 2: They're well they're having.

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Speaker 3: It has got all the power forward teams that are

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Speaker 3: in the sweet Sea.

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Speaker 5: There's been one and it's too soon to talk about it. Okay,

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Speaker 5: what I said, there's been one upset and I said its.

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Speaker 3: Missouri, Missouri, Colorado State. Drake Drake, Oh, Drake, coach just

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Speaker 3: got a new job. He's now the Iowa coach.

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Speaker 2: He got Thank you, he got the job.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I always said to show me, I'll show you, I'll

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Speaker 3: take care of Missouri.

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Speaker 2: And now he's so he just moved right down the road.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Yep, yep. All right. So there's plenty to

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Speaker 3: get to, yes, and but off the top, let's pay

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Speaker 3: tribute to one of the great sports broadcasters of our

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Speaker 3: era who passed away at the age of ninety nine yesterday,

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Speaker 3: the great Bill Mercer, who was the Cowboys, the voice

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Speaker 3: of the Cowboys back in the late sixties and early seventies.

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Speaker 3: He was actually the original radio voice of the Texas

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Speaker 3: Rangers baseball team too, in nineteen seventy two. Some of

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Speaker 3: you may remember him as being the voice of World

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Speaker 3: Class Wrestling Saturday Night Wrestling on Channel eleven, and he's

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Speaker 3: probably best remembered for that. And then University of North Texas.

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Speaker 3: There have been so many sports broadcasters who come out

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Speaker 2: And he did a heck of a job.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't realize before the Cowboys JFK, JFK and

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Speaker 5: the Dallas Texans. Okay, Douglas had a cut from him

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Speaker 5: selling tickets. It was a promo radio promo for the Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Texans, the American Football League, Dallas Texans.

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Speaker 5: But he also has and I think Chris has it,

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys Super Bowl victory against Miami Dolphins back in

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Speaker 5: would have been January of seventy two.

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Speaker 2: Correct tracks in.

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Speaker 6: A tight end on the right side, Thomas Garrison of

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Speaker 7: All words of them.

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Speaker 6: Both tight ends are enough. Garrison right, Thomas left, second

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Speaker 6: this left, check to the right at the three. Bet

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Speaker 6: you out of Thomas. Dwayne up inside of the five

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Speaker 8: He made a great move on ton of Connie, fired

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Speaker 8: in to the blackfield. Think bring Wayne Thomas left one

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Speaker 8: side of it, lancedalwarth It looks like the true fatty

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Speaker 8: and he goes lathy off the field, lapping.

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Speaker 6: His hands together.

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Speaker 8: Three The Cowboys and wracked them.

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Speaker 6: Up down to sixteen to three dry for extra point

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Speaker 6: by Clark. It's up, but it's cut Nollas seventeen Miami three.

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Speaker 4: All right, that's when Tom Lander was in a good move.

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Speaker 2: Wow you think, Yeah, he was never in a good

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Speaker 2: mood after the great.

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Speaker 3: Names on that bought a Connie Nick Wanna. Connie started

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Speaker 3: with Billy Truex was the tidy end for the cowboy

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Speaker 3: Allworth Glance Awworth. Dwayne. He did say Dwayne to Dwayne. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was on her first name, base Wayne, Dwayne. He

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Speaker 5: Base Teammates that that cut sounds like somebody talking about

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Speaker 2: You know that old voice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the quick, the quick, Yeah. The boys Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: all of them like this as if they were Ye.

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Speaker 4: They were in the choir.

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Speaker 9: Like Lindsay Nelson at the night. Some of them for

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Speaker 9: cutting Lord Johnny Moss out of the twenty five yard line,

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Speaker 9: Johnny Mousso into the ends, one touchdown out of my may.

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Speaker 4: So that's that Oklahoma accent Muskegee Muscogee, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: Muscog Yeah, and Okie from Muscogee.

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Speaker 5: He's in the Muscogee High School Athletics Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: And I also read I didn't realize this. He during

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Speaker 9: He was.

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Speaker 5: In service for three years on a ship and one

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Speaker 3: So he was born in nineteen twenty six. My mom

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Speaker 4: It was something about Oklahoma was was going to grab

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Speaker 3: My dad from Okema, Oklahoma, just down the road from

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Speaker 2: Ninety nine years.

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Speaker 3: Ninety nine years old. And I actually you remember listening,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I was going to mention first that

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Speaker 3: I actually it was just a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 3: maybe during COVID. Exchanged some emails with Bill Mercer. I

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Speaker 3: know what it was. I was trying to track down

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Speaker 3: he did. He He was the Ranger's voice on when

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Speaker 3: So this is just a couple of years ago, and

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Speaker 3: I was trying to track down from a guy who

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Speaker 3: was mentored by Bill Mercer, Mike Kapps, who was a

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Speaker 3: so he got me in touch with Bill Mercer and

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Speaker 3: we exchanged emails. And what I was amazed about with

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Speaker 3: I answer your question, I remember as a kid in

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy two first Rangers game ever was. It was

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Speaker 3: against the California Angels, and Bill Mercer and Don Drysdale

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Speaker 2: Did you guys, did you listen to radio?

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Speaker 4: I did not listen to radio, but I was a

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Speaker 4: wrestling uh aficionado Fishonado and I was a major fan

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Speaker 4: of while who McDaniel.

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma sooner, while who McDaniel, Yeah, play football. This guy

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Speaker 3: and the Death Erics. Bill Mercer was very close with

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Speaker 4: But I mean I was, you know, young enough to

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Speaker 3: And did you watch it on Saturday nights? Yes, I

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Speaker 4: That was my grandmother. She died at one hundred and

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Speaker 4: four years old. But she would sit there and she

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Speaker 4: we would be in acting. We're acting what we just

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Speaker 3: She would hit us with something.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what she would hit us with, but

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Speaker 4: on it. So every Saturday night man grandmother's house watching.

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Speaker 3: Bill Mercer at the North Side Coliseum in Mortatory, mos too.

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Speaker 3: But the one, the one that was on TV was

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Speaker 3: in love with Killer Kowalski. Remember that dominal claw killer

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Speaker 3: Colonel Coler. It was a spoiler, know that Van Eric

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Speaker 3: had the iron cloth?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, it was the spoiler was the mask.

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Speaker 2: He had the mask, and.

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Speaker 4: They always tried to take off the mask and would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wa got love it scars. There was now the

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Speaker 5: And uh yeah, so we should have a special guest

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Speaker 5: here that we should knows quite a bit about Bill Mercer.

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Speaker 5: If Chris has online, yeah, you said next segment, next second,

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Speaker 5: all right, second segment, So I called.

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Speaker 2: Him the second thing we do.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he just felt.

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Speaker 4: All right, we'll take He just felt left out of

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Speaker 4: the conversation.

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 4: We didn't talk.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to take an early break, then let's

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Speaker 3: do that. Okay, we're going to take an early break.

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Speaker 5: And who do you want to yes, especially half a

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Speaker 5: North Texas alone George Dunham, who at one point was

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Speaker 5: the Texas Stadium uh pa announcer and uh knows Bill

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Speaker 3: All right, so George Dunham joins us as we go

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Speaker 3: down memory lane in just a mooment here on mix shots.

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Speaker 3: From the ticket, George. You got Bill Jones, You've got

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Speaker 7: Gosh, I never thought i'd have a day where I

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Speaker 4: By the way, almost all of my family went to

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Speaker 4: He's coming from North Texas and Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: But George, the reason we've got you here is to

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I found out yesterday. I guess Dave Barnett,

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Speaker 7: He called North Texas football when Abner Haynes broke the

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Speaker 7: Sorry about that, but you know, he just he told

443
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Speaker 7: us stories like that. They were so intact. And there

444
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 7: he was as a young reporter in nineteen sixty three,

445
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 7: and he did news, he did sports, he did Highland

446
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Speaker 7: Park football. And here he is in November of nineteen

447
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 7: sixty three getting ready to do a Highland Park football

448
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 7: game and the president of the United States was assassinated

449
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Speaker 7: in Dallas. And there he is at a press conference

450
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 7: surrounded by news men from all over the country. And

451
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 7: it was Bill Mercer who asked Lee Harvey Oswald or

452
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 7: told him, by the way, you've been charged with murdering

453
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Speaker 7: the president of the United States, Did you know that

454
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 7: he was an incredible reporter? And all of that being said,

455
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Speaker 7: and whether he was talking to you know, a Von

456
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 7: Eric or Lee Harvey Oswald play by play came back

457
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 7: to it because he could tell a story. He could,

458
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Speaker 7: you know, he could. He used to tell us a

459
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Speaker 7: story about when he was reporting on a fire Dallas

460
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 7: and he went live and he described it and the

461
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 7: news director apparently told him that's the greatest news report

462
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 7: I've ever heard. And it was because he was doing

463
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 7: play by play, he was descriptive about the flames and

464
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 7: the smoke and what the firemen were doing, and and

465
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Speaker 7: beyond all that, he was just kind.

466
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Speaker 3: You know, he.

467
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Speaker 7: He really was. He was really kind to all of

468
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Speaker 7: us and incutting me. And you know, Bill and I

469
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 7: at one point had our differences, and you know, it

470
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 7: was a very complicated situation when I eventually replaced him

471
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 7: as the voice of the Mean Green and some of

472
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 7: that was my fault of how everything happened. And I'm

473
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 7: so thankful that since then, you know, we talked and

474
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 7: he showed such grace and understanding with me, and that's

475
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 7: just you know, the essence of who he was. He

476
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 7: was just careerly a really kind, kind and intelligent man.

477
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Speaker 2: George.

478
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Speaker 5: You didn't get to Dallas in time to be able

479
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 5: to hear any of his broadcast live as a young kid.

480
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 7: No, I The first I saw of him, ironically, was

481
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 7: when I lived in Chicago and he's sitting next to

482
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 7: Harry Carey. It was he did White Sox baseball and

483
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 7: Channel forty four, and I was there every night for it.

484
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 7: And then when I moved down here, I saw him

485
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 7: doing wrestling and I thought, man, this this guy has

486
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 7: a tough gig. That's the guy I used to do

487
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 7: the White Sox. And here he is, you know, talking

488
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 7: to some wrestler and the chairs being hit over someone

489
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 7: head in the background. And then, you know, I heard

490
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Speaker 7: about his legendary status in North Texas when I went there.

491
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 7: But I went there as a business major. And then

492
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 7: I met Craig Miller and he told me that he

493
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 7: was a broadcast major. I didn't even know they had that.

494
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 7: And then I met Bill, and that just changed my life.

495
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Speaker 7: It changed the trajectory of what I was interested in.

496
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 7: I you know, I thought, wow, I never even thought

497
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Speaker 7: about being a sports broadcaster.

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Speaker 3: That sounds great, George, George, George. I wonder what it

499
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 3: sounded like when Bill Mercer and Harry Carey were in

500
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 3: the booth together. How about how about we reenact for

501
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: just a moment.

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Speaker 4: Here.

503
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 3: I'll be Bill, you be Harry Carey, and Wilberwood. The

504
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: knuckleballer is on the island for the Chicago White Sox.

505
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: And here's the pitch, Harry, you take it from here.

506
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 7: Here's the pitch, and that it's outside for ball four.

507
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 7: You know, you think you pay a guy one hundred

508
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 7: and twenty thousand dollars a year Bill, and they could

509
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 7: get it over the plate. I love it, George, but

510
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 7: you know, and that was that was the thing too

511
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 7: about about Bill. He he was critical without cutting, you know.

512
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 7: And he one thing that he always got on me.

513
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 7: And everyone assumes, oh, you took sports broadcasting. That was

514
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 7: probably a blowoff class. Hey, I did not make an A.

515
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 7: I made a B. And it killed me because you know,

516
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 7: only the best of the best made an A, and

517
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 7: I thought, you know, but again it was one of

518
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 7: those times where he pulled me aside and he said,

519
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 7: I gave you a B because I know you can

520
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 7: be better. And it made me work to get better.

521
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 7: And you know, and again that was just a teaching

522
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 7: moment for him. And yeah, he was and all that

523
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 7: would be enough for a lifetime, But then you you

524
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 7: fight for our country on a little pet boat in

525
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 7: the South Pacific, and Bill went through some serious battles

526
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 7: and saw some terrible, terrible things and he never really

527
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 7: talked specifics about those arrible things that he saw, but

528
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 7: he that that's part of what made him. I think

529
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 7: he was so intelligent. You know, he was world traveled

530
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 7: and he read a lot and he just knew a

531
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Speaker 7: lot and would make references that you know, a students

532
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 7: would look at each other and go, not hear a

533
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 7: boxy where is that?

534
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Speaker 5: You know?

535
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Speaker 7: And but but he would one of the things I

536
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 7: was getting to that he would work with me. He'd

537
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 7: probably be telling me that, right now, smile when you broadcast,

538
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 7: this is supposed to be fun, you know. And I

539
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 7: think I was just sweating bullets trying to get names

540
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 7: and numbers right that I didn't often enjoy the broadcasts.

541
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Speaker 7: And it's something I've really worked on through the years.

542
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 7: And he could tell that just by listening to your tape.

543
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 7: You know, he'd say, well, are you smiling? And I'd say, well, no,

544
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 7: well why not. You're at a ball game, you know,

545
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 7: this is this is great and the people who are

546
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 7: listening that want to enjoy the game, they can't enjoy

547
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 7: it if someone's on the other end and all he

548
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 7: does is criticize and he's not smiling. That's just one

549
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 7: of the I mean, I could go on and on,

550
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 7: which is the helpful hints that he gave as to

551
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 7: make you a better broadcaster, but also just to I

552
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 7: think make you a better person.

553
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: George.

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Speaker 5: A couple of years ago, didn't you guys have some

555
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 5: sort of reunion with him.

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00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: With a bunch of the guys that we did, you know,

557
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: and this is.

558
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 7: I thought about this, and I'm so glad we did it.

559
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 7: A few of us got together, a lot of those

560
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 7: names that I mentioned, Craig and Don Harris who you

561
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 7: know Bill really well, and San Antonio and guys we

562
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 7: went to school with, and people and girls that came

563
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 7: before us, and we got a group together from the sixties,

564
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 7: seventies and the eighties and nineties and the aunts. And

565
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 7: of course, if you're going to name anything after or

566
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 7: someone these days, you got to raise money to do it.

567
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 7: But that's just part of the thing. And we raise

568
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 7: some money. And you know, anytime you cover a game

569
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 7: at North Texas and you go to app which is

570
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 7: now back to stadium, and you go to you know,

571
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 7: the dining services, the media room, it's the Bill Mercer

572
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 7: media room, and there's pictures of Bill. One of his

573
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 7: old headsets is up there. And it was it was

574
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 7: a really cool reunion and it was really neat hearing

575
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 7: from people who were put on the air in the

576
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 7: nineteen sixties, and you know, they were talking about going

577
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 7: on the air and telling Bill, Hey, I don't agree

578
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 7: with what's going on in our country right now, and

579
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 7: Bill say will say it, you know, and that's that's

580
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 7: your job as a broadcaster. You know, you can you

581
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 7: can have some editorial commentary. And you know, Bill was

582
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 7: right out there with him, and.

583
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Speaker 10: He was just he was.

584
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Speaker 7: It was almost like a Forrest Gump like life that

585
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 7: he had, you know, the high school Harry Carry, you know, Lee,

586
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 7: Harvey Oswald, Abner Haynes, the minor league baseball teams in

587
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 7: Dallas and Fort Worth that he did, the Dallas Texans

588
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 7: when the AFL came to town, you know. And and

589
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 7: Bill was right there in the middle of it.

590
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: And perhaps best known for his relationship with the vin

591
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: Erics and world class wrestling.

592
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, and Dave Barnett always quotes that that he was.

593
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 7: They took a poll in Saudi Arabia at one point

594
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 7: it was like the vn Erics, Scan Bar Act Bar

595
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 7: and Bill were the most oder people in Saudi Arabia

596
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 7: at the time. I mean, and when we would go

597
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 7: on the road doing North Texas and I worked with

598
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 7: Bill as a student, but I came back in nineteen

599
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 7: ninety and we worked together ninety through ninety three and

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00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 7: we would go to Lake Charles, Nakatish, Jonesboro, Arkansas, and

601
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 7: all those stops in Louisiana, and you would think we

602
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 7: were traveling with Elvis when we would walk into a restaurant. Hey,

603
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 7: that's the wrestling guy. Can I have your autograph? Can

604
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 7: you autograph my menu and say that you ate at

605
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 7: my restaurant? I mean, yeah, people loved Bill.

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00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: It's got to like Vern lundquisty Vern Lundquist did so

607
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 3: many great events from the Masters to the Cowboys, NFL,

608
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: the SEC. But he's best known for bolling for dollars.

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00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 7: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I remember that's right, bowing for dollars. Well, well, George,

611
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 3: we appreciate you reliving some of the memories with Bill

612
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: Mercer and great impact on so many I mean, from

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Speaker 3: you to Craig Miller. I mean you mentioned several of

614
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 3: them there, but there are so many that have gone

615
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 3: on to great careers. Who mentioned Craig Way with the

616
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 3: University of Texas, Mark Folwell with the Mavericks, Dave Barnett

617
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: for decades, and you know, at such an early age

618
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: became the Mavericks play by play guy. I think he's

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Speaker 3: twenty three years old, basically fresh out of the Bill

620
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 3: Mercer School of Broadcasting and so many more, the younger

621
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Speaker 3: ones like Ted Emrick and you know, Rich Phillips at SMU,

622
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: and then goes the list goes on and on.

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Speaker 7: It really does. And I appreciate you guys talking about Bill.

624
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 7: And it's really been gratifying the last twenty four hours

625
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 7: watching newscast and podcasts and radio and newspaper and they're

626
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 7: talking about Bill and he deserves it because he was

627
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 7: He was a legend. And yeah, they just don't they

628
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 7: don't make them like that anymore, for sure.

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Speaker 10: I know.

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Speaker 3: Bill Mercer was the voice of the Cowboys during the

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Speaker 3: Ice Bowl, first super Bowls and great legacy? Mickey? What

681
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Speaker 5: In our last Well, I think we can pick up

683
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Speaker 5: where we left off and look into your big green

684
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Speaker 5: notebook on wide receivers. Since we said that there seems

685
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Speaker 5: to be a void there, well, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Called it a sad list. Let's just call it what

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Speaker 3: it is. Sad. You know, that's a good idea round

688
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Speaker 3: to there. It's there aren't very many what I would say,

689
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Speaker 3: the Green notebook would say are first round wide receivers,

690
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Speaker 3: so you can get a wide receivers later in the draft,

691
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Speaker 3: but there's not the first round. There is T Mac

692
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Speaker 3: from Arizona. You you like the Teteroa McMillan. It's his name, Okay,

693
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Speaker 3: I couldn't say this first. He's he's a big six

694
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Speaker 3: four wide receiver, so he'll go buy T Mac. Yeah.

695
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Speaker 3: T Mac is just annoying by T Mac. You like

696
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Speaker 3: Matthew Golden from Texas. And by the way, Texas Pro

697
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Speaker 3: Day is tomorrow, and I'm going, are you really yes? Okay?

698
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: Like Isaiah Bond too, don't you? Yes?

699
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Speaker 2: Okay, That's why I'm going mysel.

700
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: Because Isaiah Bond or Matthew Golden. Both of them are

701
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Speaker 3: checking out those wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: That's right. I'll have a report out of next Monday.

703
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Speaker 3: They'll have a quarterback throwing to them as well. They

704
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Speaker 3: will yours who By the way, the reports are out

705
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Speaker 3: there that he has a visit with the Cowboys. Of

706
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Speaker 3: course he's a Dallas Day guy. But also there's a

707
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Speaker 3: report this morning that yours has thirty visits with a

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Speaker 3: number of teams, including the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: So the two wide receivers from ut first round, mid round,

710
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Speaker 5: late round, too early at twelve.

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Speaker 3: I would say it's too early at twelve, But when

712
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Speaker 3: you run a four to nine, that's going to catch

713
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Speaker 3: the attention, you know. And xavier' Worthy. Now Golden was

714
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Speaker 3: at Texas just one year, sixteen games and one year

715
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Speaker 3: fifty eight catches. Be it Houston who was at Houston

716
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Speaker 3: prior to that for two years. He also has kick

717
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Speaker 3: return ability and return two kicks for touchdowns at Houston.

718
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Speaker 3: So we saw the run on wide receivers at the

719
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Speaker 3: end of the first round beginning of the second round

720
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Speaker 3: last year. It just kind of depends where that run

721
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: starts this draft at running back is really good. Defensive

722
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: line looks to be really deep. Now, what happens on

723
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: that is sometimes because there's so many running backs, because

724
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Speaker 3: there's so many defensive linemen, maybe you want to get

725
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Speaker 3: your wide receiver earlier because of that, because they'll go

726
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: quicker and they're not as deep. Maybe, but so you

727
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Speaker 3: never know how it's going to play out. But typically

728
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Speaker 3: I think it's you'll find your wide receivers that are

729
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 3: Golden size five eleven one ninety. But with that speed.

730
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Speaker 3: The speed gets him into the first round, and but

731
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Speaker 3: the size would put him in the second or third round.

732
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Speaker 3: Both of them small. Let me sit fine bond here.

733
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Speaker 3: They're both similar size. To answer your question, yet under

734
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Speaker 3: six feet yeah for around that.

735
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Speaker 2: But he could be more than a slot receiver.

736
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Speaker 3: Gold Golden, Sure, okay, he can play outside.

737
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Speaker 5: Well, they've got guys that can play outside. I mean,

738
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Speaker 5: all the guys you just mentioned that are the Cowboys

739
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Speaker 5: have rights to. I don't know that there's a typical

740
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Speaker 5: slot receiver among them. If you think about it now,

741
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 5: they would do well for well. I mean Turpin can

742
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 5: run out of the slot. CD has done it. In

743
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 5: that group you mentioned the guy that needs an opportunity

744
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 5: and he's got to be able to take advantage of it.

745
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Speaker 2: Is Mingo.

746
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Speaker 5: I mean, that guy was awfully good at Old Miss,

747
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 5: and he really didn't do much in Carolina. I don't

748
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 5: know if that has to do with the quarterback play

749
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:30,479
Speaker 5: while he was there, but I mean, as a number

750
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Speaker 5: two guy outside, pretty darn good. You know.

751
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Speaker 4: I recall when I was playing ball. I mean even

752
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: going back to high school, I always knew that the

753
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Speaker 4: off season was my ticket. Never was a good first impression. Guy,

754
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,959
Speaker 4: never did a wow any coaches right off the bat.

755
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Speaker 4: But if you could just just let me work in,

756
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Speaker 4: let me work in, and let me show you what

757
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Speaker 4: I can do. You're not going to do that during

758
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 4: the season. Got to do it, and back then we

759
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 4: would do it in the spring. The spring ball was

760
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Speaker 4: when you made your move, whether it was high school

761
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Speaker 4: or whether it was college, and when you came to

762
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Speaker 4: when you came to camp, you better do something to

763
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Speaker 4: show people what you got inside of you. I don't

764
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Speaker 4: think he's Mingo has taken that. He hasn't taken that leap.

765
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Speaker 4: You have to have that leap. You have to have

766
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Speaker 4: confidence in yourself to take that leap, to be able

767
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Speaker 4: to say I'm going to go out here and show

768
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Speaker 4: you what I show.

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Speaker 3: What's going to be crucial for him is here. In

770
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Speaker 3: just a couple of weeks, the Cowboys start there, I

771
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Speaker 3: mean because.

772
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Speaker 2: They get that coach.

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Speaker 3: They get after time he got is April, May and June.

774
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Speaker 3: What he shows to the coaches, he got to show

775
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Speaker 3: and got to show. Worry.

776
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Speaker 4: If you're gonna be if you're gonna be lukewarm and

777
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Speaker 4: doing this time of your career, then that's all you got.

778
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Speaker 3: You can't bring.

779
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Speaker 4: If you can't bring it out of yourself to show

780
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Speaker 4: them exactly what you have to have the confidence and

781
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 4: the courage to show them what you can do, then

782
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: then you're never gonna go. You're never gonna advance towards

783
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Speaker 4: where you are right now. If he's gonna do this,

784
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: and we talk about his side, talking about what he

785
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Speaker 4: did old miss somehow, he's got to bring that back.

786
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Speaker 4: I don't know what happened in Carolina, right, Yeah, I

787
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 4: don't know what happened in Carolina, but he got to

788
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Speaker 4: bring that bag. He has to show and with the

789
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Speaker 4: DBS that he has out here. One advantage I had

790
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Speaker 4: when I went to the Giants. The Giants didn't have

791
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 4: good wide receivers. So I look good in practice?

792
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Speaker 3: Why didn't this guy playing one?

793
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Speaker 10: Right?

794
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 4: I look great? I mean he can't. You know, no

795
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 4: one could catch anything. He's out here working now against

796
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 4: some dbs that he should be able to beat. He

797
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 4: should be able to show us what he can do

798
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 4: against average dbs. He better starts showing it now because

799
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Speaker 4: that list. We are not going anywhere with that list.

800
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Speaker 4: I don't care how good your running back is. You've

801
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: got to have some guys that's willing to step up.

802
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: And I'm talking about tob It as well. They got

803
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Speaker 4: us do more than what I've seen because other while

804
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 4: we're looking at a quarterback who's going to get hurt

805
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 4: again trying to wait for these wide receivers to get open.

806
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: You can't just keep looking at one all the time.

807
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 4: You got to look at a team of receivers that

808
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 4: you can have, that you can depend on like clockwork.

809
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 4: It's got to be the system has to be able

810
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 4: to You have to work within the system to make

811
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 4: yourself good to where you can say, okay, he can

812
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 4: depend on me on second and thirteen. You know he

813
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 4: can depend on me in critical moments of a ballgame.

814
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 4: Right now, I don't know if that list is going

815
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: to work it for us.

816
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: I would like to go down the running back road here,

817
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 3: because you've got Pro days this week. We mentioned Texas

818
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: is tomorrow, Ohio State is Wednesday. Got a couple of

819
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 3: Pro days today, which two running backs from Ohio State.

820
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: A couple of running backs working out today Pro days

821
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: at North Carolina Omari and Hampton, and at Iowa Klee Johnson.

822
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: But the two Ohio State guys quin Shawn Judkins and

823
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 3: Travion Henderson. I've been looking at these guys and this

824
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: is where cowboys are going to be. They're going to

825
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: find them. Well running back. Yeah, my draft in the

826
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: draft and it's going to be in the top hundred picks. Okay,

827
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: we're not waiting till the fourth round here, right? Are

828
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 3: we an agreement on that? Yeah?

829
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 4: I agree, because once again that list of y is ugly. Yeah,

830
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 4: that's why you need a running back.

831
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Speaker 2: So when they had the assistant coach interviews.

832
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Speaker 5: The end of Febebruary, yeah, somewhere in there, I was

833
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 5: looking at everything.

834
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Speaker 3: Oh, we're looking at some video here. Thirty two for

835
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Speaker 3: Ohio State is Travion Henderson five eleven two O two

836
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 3: ran a four to four to three at the forty

837
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Speaker 3: ren for one thousand yards seven point one yards to

838
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Speaker 3: carry ten touchdowns, had twenty seven for another two hundred

839
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: and eighty four yards. Team captain at Ohio State. That

840
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: was it. Those are his senior year overs.

841
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: Which one's the Ohio State.

842
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: This is Ohio State. Number thirty two Treveon Henderson.

843
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: Okay, and.

844
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 5: The other guy Quinn showIn John Judkins Unkins who had

845
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 5: a pretty good playoff run. Both of those guys are

846
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 5: first round picks right.

847
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: Well, they could be. They could be first rounders, or

848
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: they could because you know teams and team needs and

849
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: that sort of thing and feelings about running backs in general.

850
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Speaker 3: Number one is Quinn Shawn Judkins.

851
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 4: How was the injury of history?

852
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 3: It appears that they've been healthy throughout their career. Now

853
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: Judkins here, number one. He's a bigger back, six foot

854
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: two twenty one. Ran a four to four eight with

855
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: a thirty eight and a half vertical on eleven broad jump,

856
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 3: so he's got a good explosion. Yeah, and he he

857
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 3: started his career at Ole Miss. He was first team

858
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: All SEC in twenty three at ole Miss. His first

859
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: year at ole Miss, he ran for fifteen hundred and

860
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: sixty seven yards and sixteen touchdowns. And this this year,

861
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 3: I told you what Henderson did at Ohio State with

862
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: one thousand yards and ten touchdowns. Well, Judkins had one

863
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: thousand yards and fourteen touchdowns.

864
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 5: And I heard a interview with Henderson yep, And the

865
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 5: question was, so you saw Judkins transferring to Ohio State.

866
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:40,959
Speaker 2: What went through your mind?

867
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Speaker 5: Were you thinking, oh, I got to go and he goes, no,

868
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 5: he goes, We're going to compete, and he goes, if

869
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 5: he's that good, then we're going to have a hell

870
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Speaker 5: of a competition.

871
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: And this was before the and I'm going, okay, I

872
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: like that.

873
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 5: I like the way he handled the entire interview and

874
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 5: it was from the combine and it's.

875
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 4: Like a Jalen Hurt situation.

876
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And so don't.

877
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 5: Be afraid of the competition. So what I was going

878
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 5: to tell you when you went into that, if you

879
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 5: look at what the Cowboys have done putting this staff together,

880
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 5: starting with Schottenheimer when he was offensive coordinator Seattle uh

881
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 5: and the Jets, he had dynamic running games. There was

882
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 5: a couple of times once with the Jets they led

883
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 5: the league in rushing.

884
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 2: He did it in.

885
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: SEETFC championship game that year, too, right, and Seattle led

886
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 3: the league.

887
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 5: Also, it's right and so, and then look who he hired.

888
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 5: And I think, I want to say Miles Sanders might

889
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 5: have said it. He goes, they asked him about coming

890
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 5: here in the running game, and he goes, well, you

891
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 5: don't always see the offensive coordinator is an offensive line coach.

892
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 5: So they have made I think a priority hiring Clayton Adams,

893
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 5: a proven offensive line coach who had been an offensive

894
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 5: coordinator line coach in college the last two years at Arizona,

895
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 5: and they ran the ball and someone said, well, that's

896
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 5: because of Kyle Murray. Well, Murray ran well the first year.

897
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 5: The second year he didn't have but two hundred yards rushing.

898
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 5: So James Connor was running back, yes, and he flourished.

899
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 5: Arizona's ran for more yards than they had in sixteen

900
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 5: years with him as the offensive line coach. Then you

901
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 5: hire a offensive line coach who had been the OC

902
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 5: and offensive line coach at Kansas State, Connor Riley, Connor Riley.

903
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 5: And so I'm sitting there looking at this and I'm saying, well,

904
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 5: they seem to be making a priority of this running game.

905
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 5: So when Schottenheimer was walking off when the assistants were

906
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 5: doing the interview, I said, am I right to think

907
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 5: that you're putting an emphasis on the running game? And

908
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 5: he goes, I'd say that's accurate. And then I said,

909
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 5: and the hires you made.

910
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 2: Was it intentional to boost the running game? He says,

911
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: I think so.

912
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 5: He says, I've been tracking some of these guys for

913
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 5: a long time. And he pointed out that, you know,

914
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 5: when he was an offensive coordinator, he had to put

915
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 5: staffs together, so he kept his eye on some of

916
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 5: these up and coming coaches, not only in the NFL,

917
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 5: but in college too. And then if you look at

918
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 5: Lunda Wells, the tight end coach, well he was an

919
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 5: offensive line He was an offensive lineman at LSU, and

920
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 5: he was an offensive line coach before he got the

921
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 5: tight ends here. So to me, they want to make

922
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 5: this running game go, whether it's the guys they have

923
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 5: now or adding somebody at least one guy in the

924
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 5: first two rounds.

925
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 3: All right, One other note on these two Ohio State

926
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 3: running backs. Henderson is the more veteran of the two.

927
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 3: He was at Ohio State for four years. He ranks

928
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: top five all time Ohio State running backs. Can you

929
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 3: name any Ohio State running backs from the past starting

930
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 3: with Archie Griffin? Number two on the list JK. Dobbins,

931
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 3: Three is Zeke four, Eddie George In. Number five is

932
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 3: Trevion Henderson as far as all time rushing at Ohio State.

933
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: The other thing that I picked up on from him

934
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 3: is he seems to be really good as a past protector,

935
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: a very physical, good blocker, and so he may be

936
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 3: as a every down back type. He may be more

937
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 3: ready to go right now than Judkins. But I love

938
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 3: Judkins too as far as his strength, Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

939
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 3: I like it. I like well Henderson too. Henderson at

940
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 3: a thirty eight and a half vertical and ten eight

941
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 3: broad jump, both of them are very similar. I like it.

942
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 4: I like Henderson's running style a little bit better, Yeah,

943
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 4: only because.

944
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 3: It's more elusive. Yeah to the right, not that he

945
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 3: would be would write more effective. All right, Then there's

946
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 3: North Carolina. They got their pro dated day Omaron Hampton

947
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: and a lot of people are ranking him just behind

948
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 3: Ashton Genty is the number two running back. Okay, we

949
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 3: just saw those Ohio State backs. Well, this guy must

950
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 3: really be something if we have if he ranks right

951
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: behind him six foot two hundred and twenty one pounds,

952
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: very similar to the numbers on Quinchan Judkins with four four,

953
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 3: six forty and a thirty eight vertical and a ten

954
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 3: ten broad jump. Was the machine broken at the combine?

955
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 3: They're all got the same numbers.

956
00:54:59,160 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just.

957
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: Let's just put this at Hampton at North Carolina the

958
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 3: last couple of years, over two hundred and fifty rushing

959
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 3: attempts over fifteen hundred yards both years and average very

960
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: consistent five point nine yards of carry and scored fifteen

961
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: touchdowns both years at North Carolina.

962
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 4: Now, how good are these as receiving backs?

963
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 7: I think that.

964
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: Hampton had thirty Hampton had thirty eight catches for three

965
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy three yards and two touchdowns his senior year.

966
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 3: One thing on Judkins with Ohio State, he did not

967
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 3: look as natural catching the ball as what Henderson did too.

968
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: And that's the other thing that.

969
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 4: Well, let's just say we have this issue with wide receivers,

970
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 4: and I just talked about the young man. If you

971
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 4: have a shifty running back that can also be a

972
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 4: good pass receiver. If you have a tight end that's

973
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 4: going to block well for you, then he's going to

974
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 4: be your best friend in play action. So I'm looking

975
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 4: at this list that we have, not just the wide

976
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: receiver list, but the entire roster that we could potentially have.

977
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 3: If we're going to be running the ball, then those.

978
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 4: Counters, those other options are going to be extremely important.

979
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: Your tight ends got to know how to block and

980
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: catch a ball.

981
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 4: You got to have more than one good tight end

982
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 4: that can do that, and you it'd be best if

983
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 4: you don't have a good number two receiver.

984
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 3: Then you're running back.

985
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 4: He needs to be a very shifty and good pass

986
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: catching running.

987
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: Back as well well.

988
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 5: And that's where at least one of the two guys

989
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 5: they've signed now Devant Williams, Fonte Williams and Miles Sanders.

990
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: You're going to keep a veteran running back, and.

991
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 5: Those guys have been pretty good in the passing as

992
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 5: I remembered.

993
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 3: Because Sanders, I think you're keeping both those guys. I

994
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 3: don't think either one of them is Royce Freeman.

995
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 2: Okay, you believe.

996
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 3: I think you keep both of those guys plus a rookie,

997
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: and then Douce fits in if if he can.

998
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: If he can somewhere. But I was looking up there

999
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: those guys, or.

1000
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: Beat Douce beats out one of those guys.

1001
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

1002
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 5: And those guys in the passing game previously have been

1003
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 5: pretty good catching the ball. Now, Williams had to come

1004
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 5: back from his torn acl Actually he hit the triple

1005
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 5: crown in knee injury his second year in Denver, so

1006
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 5: he's two years removed from it now, so you would

1007
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 5: hope that he can get back.

1008
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 3: He had won eight game stretch last year and I

1009
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 3: don't know what happened