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Speaker 4: Taste the Biscuit Mornings, Sweet World. Then welcome to the

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Speaker 4: No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network is Monday, October three,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: I'm j E.

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Speaker 4: Skips back in the classic fact and would you look

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Speaker 4: mother alongside me as always, we have mister Baseball task mellas.

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Speaker 4: It's the Beard and One, Mister f one, Trey Kirby.

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Speaker 4: Heyo to my right, the International Man of Mystery, Mister.

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Speaker 4: Yonder making the magic happen, Mister wonderful JD.

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Speaker 4: to No Dunks at the Athletic dot Com. On today's pod,

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Speaker 4: this this could be lengthy.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, let's get into it. You know

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Speaker 3: what you want to talk about?

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Speaker 4: Thirty six service. Okay, hold on, hold on, No. On

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Speaker 4: today's pod, we're going to dive into the regular season

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Speaker 4: win totals for all fifteen teams in the Western Conference.

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Speaker 4: All right, We're dividing this into two parts. We'll do

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Speaker 4: our over under win total bets, our favorites for each team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we got some news. I'm gonna do a

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Speaker 4: The Thunder and Rockets completed an eight player trade. I

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Speaker 4: Term, four years, one hundred and thirty million dollar contract

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Speaker 1: Come on, I'm acting tired.

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Speaker 1: Pickleball is the fastest growing sport in America.

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Speaker 2: We need more third places in America in society.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're at work where people gather. Have that

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Speaker 4: But the Warriors fifty two and a half wins.

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Speaker 1: On divisions really quick, just really really quick. The NBA

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't work for me, It worked for me.

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Speaker 1: like the Raptors first game. For instance. Divisions are good

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Speaker 4: Those Atlantic Division banners, Yes, I love it.

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Speaker 4: They won fifty three last year.

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Speaker 3: I don't really get well, because they don't care about

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Speaker 3: They could win sixty five if they went for it,

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Speaker 3: I think, but they won't do that, right, You know

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Speaker 3: that Draymond, Steph and Clay are probably going to have

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Speaker 3: ten to twelve games of rest. Yeah, load management.

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Speaker 4: Trey, What do you think.

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Speaker 2: I agree with everything these fellows have said. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: So the Warriors are still gonna have to care a

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Speaker 2: little bit about the regular season. Like you said, fifty

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Speaker 4: I agree with all of what you guys are saying.

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I mean, that's the thing. I think

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Speaker 4: But I counter that with, like, if Steph Curry plays

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Speaker 4: I think he could be really, really locked out, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, usually yeah, yeah, other guys playing contracts too, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And they're leading the conference for a long time last year,

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Speaker 4: Okay, so everybody going over right now. What you want,

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Speaker 4: regroup and you can give like your three three locks. Okay.

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Speaker 4: Some of them, you know, you're like you got to

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Speaker 4: I like that. Okay. The Los Angeles Clippers fifty two

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Speaker 4: People are high on these Clips, man.

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Speaker 1: They're deep too.

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Speaker 2: They're deep team, got a lot of stars, seem to

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Speaker 2: it's very likely that they could get to low fifty

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Speaker 1: Give me that under. I'm totally with you. Whoa fifty

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Speaker 1: but they'll they'll sneak in under that, I think, because

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Speaker 1: Kawhi is not playing for this Clippers team. Paul George

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Speaker 1: he's gonna save it for the postseason. And they are healthy.

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Speaker 1: As Trey said, they've got so much depth. They've got

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Speaker 1: You know. That points to them winning a lot of games.

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Speaker 1: With so many good Western Conference teams, there's gonna be

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Speaker 4: So they go forty to and forty. Last year, Qui

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Speaker 4: So adding a healthy Kauai and a healthy Paul George's

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, it assumes that Paul George and Kawai will be

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Speaker 3: if Kawai and Paul George play same sort of thing

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Speaker 3: like seventy games each. Then they probably go over that.

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Speaker 3: They go probably to fifty five wins. You're just better

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Speaker 4: It should, I'll swear and say over but you guys

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Speaker 4: So if they can, you know, keep that defensive identity

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Speaker 4: in there. We go to the Los Angeles Lakers. You

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Speaker 4: That's it, forty four and a half. Yeah, Lebron still

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Speaker 3: He's going to come out and prove to people wrong

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Speaker 3: back from an injury. But in those five or ten games,

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Speaker 3: he will absolutely dominate the league.

438
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:07,720
Speaker 4: Now.

439
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,160
Speaker 3: But honestly, this is the problem is he played forty

440
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,440
Speaker 3: games last season, he played thirty six the season before,

441
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 3: and he's already on the injury list now with lower

442
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 3: back tightness. So it's more you're going to get force

443
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,720
Speaker 3: fed the Lakers no matter what this season, and because

444
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 3: there's always big storylines Westbrook. He doesn't want to be there,

445
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,640
Speaker 3: They don't want him here, but they can't trade him.

446
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 3: Lebron in his twentieth season is a big sort of

447
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 3: anniversary and you know, celebration around that. But also Patrick

448
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,639
Speaker 3: Beverley coming in there. I actually think Patrick Bevy's a

449
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 3: fantastic pick up for them because he gives them some

450
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 3: defensive tenacity, and you know that he came in. I

451
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 3: mean the first thing he said in his preseason stuff

452
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 3: was like, hey, they have to learn to play with me.

453
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 3: I made the playoffs last season, So I actually think

454
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 3: that's a good thing for this locker room. They need

455
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 3: someone who's just going to go out there and scrap

456
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 3: and fight. Because defensively, Lebron included, they were terrible last year.

457
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 3: They didn't even try, and you know Beverly's going to

458
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 3: do that, so it's going to be drama and chaos there.

459
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Speaker 3: What did you say, low was forty four four and

460
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 3: a half. That's that's about where I've got him. Lebron's

461
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 3: obviously still great. He's probably better than eighty five percent

462
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 3: of the league, but he doesn't have that same ability

463
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 3: to just drag his team to wins that we've seen

464
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Speaker 3: for his days in Miami and Cleveland. Things like that

465
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 3: he doesn't do. And he slumped his shoulders a lot,

466
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 3: you know, and the Lakers sort of when they're down,

467
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 3: they almost sort of get pounded, I thought last season.

468
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 3: So I've got him. Give me the under, Give me

469
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: the under. I think they're about about a five hundred

470
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 3: team this season. I don't think they're a contender. I

471
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 3: don't think they're very good overall, and I really don't

472
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 3: think they're going to be able to survive the season

473
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Speaker 3: without all of their guys being injured at some point.

474
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Speaker 4: So they traded for Beverly Say, they signed Struder, they

475
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 4: signed Lonnie Walker the fourth, they signed Tony Brown, Junior

476
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 4: one Tuscano, Anderson, Thomas Bryant, Demian Jones. And then the

477
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 4: contract extensions with Lebron. Of course none and Westbrook exercises

478
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 4: player option. I guess none did that as well. They've

479
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 4: did a lot here, a lot of like those five guys,

480
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 4: six guys I listened, are sort of integral parts to

481
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Speaker 4: this team after your superstars.

482
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Speaker 1: Maybe do you buy it? They're desperate, they had to

483
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 1: make some moves. I see Fred Reel in the stream

484
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: team saying Data Davis won't be playing. Listen. I don't

485
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: want to get into the nicknames, but I do think

486
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 1: of all those players you just said, none of them

487
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 1: truly matter other than Anthony Dres If he plays, it's

488
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: like having a new player come back on your team,

489
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 1: like an MVP type player. I think he's been bad

490
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 1: for a few years, so I think that chip is

491
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: going to come in handy. I think he will decide

492
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Speaker 1: I am a top seventy five player this year. I

493
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Speaker 1: think it's been long enough since he's played well in

494
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Speaker 1: this league, so I think he comes in has a

495
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: good year. Forty four and a half is low to me.

496
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 1: I think Kendrick Nunn, who is a guy that's sort

497
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Speaker 1: of overlooked because he was there last year, just didn't

498
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Speaker 1: play a game, We'll have a good season. He's starting

499
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: right now in the preseason alongside Russell Westbrook in the backcourt.

500
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: He's played two years in this league. He played with

501
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Speaker 1: the Heat to start. If you remember, he was runner

502
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: up for Rookie of the Year. Then he got hurt.

503
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Speaker 3: He had some good games in his first game. Is

504
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 3: that right against the Hawks?

505
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Speaker 1: I think it was maybe, I don't know. He had

506
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Speaker 1: a couple the thirty point games out there. He had

507
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 1: a thirty six to thirty three. He had eighteen in

508
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: Game one of the finals that year. When he's needed

509
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 1: and he's needed on this team, I think he'll score.

510
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 1: I think he's that decent. I think he's pretty good.

511
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 1: But I'm taking the overt not only because Anthony Davis,

512
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 1: Kendrick Nunn, but I think they make a move. There's

513
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: an article on The Athletic that today that they're still

514
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 1: trying to move Russell Westbrook, and I think that happens,

515
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: and it's gonna happen at some point, and they bring

516
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: in either Buddy Heeld and or Miles Turner. I think

517
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: that's the important part. They're starting lebron A D, Kendrick Nunn,

518
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, and Damian Jones in the front court, who

519
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: is not really an NBA player. He's athletic, obviously, but

520
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 1: he hasn't shown that he can stay on the floor.

521
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is saying this looks like JaVale McGee when

522
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: we won the championship right now, because he's an athletic

523
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: big who does JaVale McGee type stuff, but he hasn't

524
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,959
Speaker 1: shown he can stay on the floor. I think Rappelling

525
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: eventually says Miles Turner's got to be our starting center.

526
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Speaker 1: It's been on the table so forty four and a

527
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: half with the front line of lebron A D and

528
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: Miles Turner, and then it gets juicy. Then that sort

529
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: of trade. I think, I think a trade has to happen,

530
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: So give him a.

531
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Speaker 4: Pick say that's what they're gonna do twenty seven.

532
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: The Yeah, I don't know.

533
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Speaker 3: They won't give up those peaks the bargain, but they

534
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 3: would have given them up on now. I think if

535
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 3: they were going to do that.

536
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the bargaining Right now, the Pacers are just chilling.

537
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: Miles Turner sucks to be you. You have to be

538
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: in trade trade rumors for another half the season, right right,

539
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: But I think he'll be their starting center.

540
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 4: Okay, so task goes over Leland under trade Darvin Ham

541
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Speaker 4: You believe in the ham Man?

542
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,959
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I really like is that they

543
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: have Darvin Ham and Dwayne Bacon team and they should

544
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: win forty five games. Come on, they should win forty

545
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 2: five games. Especially we got Lebron chasing down Kareem this year.

546
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 2: He's not gonna want to do it on a team

547
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: that's not playing for anything. He's not gonna want to

548
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: play on a thirty win team again, just gunning for statistics.

549
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 2: So I'm with Tass. I think they will make a

550
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: move eventually. Genie Buss had the interview where she said,

551
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: now that Lebron has committed to the Lakers, they are

552
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 2: continuing to commit to Lebron, which to me reads is saying, yeah,

553
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: we'll trade the picks eventually. Maybe they're just trying to

554
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: work out deals here, but I don't know. I don't

555
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 2: feel good about going over on the Lakers, and I'm

556
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: gonna reserve the right to completely change my mind. I

557
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: think I had the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals

558
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 2: last year until our very last show, and I'm like,

559
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: wait a second.

560
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: Wait a second.

561
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: They're starting who, And that's very much the same case

562
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 2: here where you're like, they're starting who Damian Jones who

563
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: couldn't even get on the court for the Hawks. Did

564
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: you remember on the Hawks? I think that was the case.

565
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: But they got some guys who should theoretically help, but

566
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. It's all about Lebron and ad. If

567
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 2: they're healthy, they win forty five games.

568
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess you always hear that you're right if

569
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 4: those two guys play, like, how could they not fall

570
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 4: into forty five wins? But last year they were eleven

571
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 4: and eleven when the two stars played some of their wins,

572
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 4: like we're against like the world teams, So it's not

573
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 4: like they were like, oh, those two guys are out there,

574
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 4: they're dominant. It was like, wasn't the case last year?

575
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 4: I'm at the can change and you got a new

576
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: coach and a bunch of new pieces, and then of

577
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 4: course you're betting on you know, we we pile on

578
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 4: ad for not playing. But Lebron the last couple of

579
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 4: years too, is h showed a little bit in terms

580
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 4: of staying completely healthy. So there is that as well.

581
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: Uh Man, this is a tough one. I saw Zach

582
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 4: Harper Wright though with this one, the Lakers is currently

583
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 4: constructed are one of those teams a lot of pundits

584
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 4: will overestimate. So maybe that's what's happening here. And it

585
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 4: simply has to do with two things. One, Lebron's resume

586
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 4: shows he can drag some pretty mediocre teams to a

587
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: lot more success than you would imagine. And two, the

588
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 4: Lakers fan base is so massive and present online that

589
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 4: nobody wants to get roasted by saying the team will

590
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 4: be bad yeah, when they might end up good. So

591
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 4: it's uh, I think those are great points from Harper,

592
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 4: but you're gonna get roasted if they hit over it.

593
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 3: They're not gonna well, well they might, they might hit

594
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: the other, but they're not they're not a contentent at all.

595
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 4: Right, you think they're a lot closer to the play

596
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 4: in tournaments.

597
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 3: Than you do to obviously acosilutely Yeah, And I mean,

598
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: you know, Zach makes some good points there, but again

599
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: it's like Anthony Davis. I don't believe he's ever played

600
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 3: eighty two games. So he just needs to get on

601
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 3: the stay on the court for fifty five games. That'll

602
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 3: be a goal there. And then if he can and

603
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: he can be dominant, because we have obviously seen him

604
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: be a very very good player, But it just feels

605
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 3: like those spurts are now becoming less and less frequent,

606
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: even though they weren't all that frequent to begin with.

607
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: So and look, Darvin Ham, I'm very excited that he

608
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: got an opportunity to coach. He certainly has done his time,

609
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 3: paid his dues to get there, but there's so much

610
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: untangling of that team that he has to sort of

611
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: figure out first. I mean, he's already kind of double

612
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: talking about what Russell Westbrook's role will be, whether or

613
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: not he's going to be coming off the bench, and

614
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: how he's going to have that conversation. Now, I would

615
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: pay a lot of money to be in the room

616
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: when Darvin Ham says, Russell, you're coming off the bench

617
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 3: this year. That would be a well hilarious.

618
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 4: So do you think they start with Westbrook in the

619
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 4: starting lineup and then see if the wins pile up

620
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 4: and if they don't, or how he plays, then you

621
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 4: might have to bet.

622
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: That would be That would be the smartest thing for

623
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 3: him to do, because then he can actually say, Okay,

624
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: we need to make a change, and you're the change

625
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: we're making. So but again, the Lakers, again, they're not

626
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: in rebuild murdering. They're in win now mode with players

627
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: that are older, injury prone, don't even really want to

628
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 3: be there in an environment where the media intensity, the

629
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: pressure of the media there is so intense.

630
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: You got Deeve mcmannumon breathing down your neck.

631
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: The fan base, the fan base, you know, I mean,

632
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 3: the fan base can't have another another bad season. So

633
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: it's so much pressure from the start, and we've seen

634
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 3: in the last couple of seasons things haven't gone well

635
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: for them.

636
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 4: I'm going to leave you on an Alen Lee I'm

637
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 4: going over that's just going all right. The Phoenix Suns,

638
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 4: we're on the Hape train.

639
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: I get it.

640
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 4: Phoenix Suns fifty three and a half. Uh, that's going

641
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: to start here? Well, yeah, I guess we already know

642
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 4: where you're leaning towards because they last to the thirty

643
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 4: six ers and you're like this.

644
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: May you tell us what you got the thirty sixers

645
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: in the NBL. Then if you've got over under there.

646
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: Them know that they were in the NBA. They have

647
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: that coach last year that was a yeller who light Yeah,

648
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: I mean.

649
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I couldn't tell you who their coach

650
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: is right now, let alone lots being the Ratelite is great.

651
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

652
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fantastic city to go for like a

653
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: weekend with the boys.

654
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah to Vegas.

655
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: Well, it's a different difference, it is it?

656
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 4: Okay sons son fifty three and a half?

657
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: Is Damian Jones on that team? I kid?

658
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: Uh?

659
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: Do you know Damian Jones a two time champ? Yes

660
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: with the Warriors? Yeah?

661
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: What maybe the number thirty draft said he wasn't even

662
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: a basketball he's a basketball player.

663
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: He's a borderline basketball player. But the Suns like to

664
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: have him on their team. I I just don't know

665
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: about the vibes on this Phoenix.

666
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 4: Suns team talking about the vibes.

667
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: That's all about the vibes. They're not good. Jay Crowder

668
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: wants once out and yeah, we're sitting here dissecting a

669
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: team with great leadership like Chris Paul on that team.

670
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: And I did go on a job with Chris Paul

671
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: and Ashton Kutcher on Peloton recently and Chris Paul looks,

672
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: it looks focused, it looks right, need to play basketball.

673
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: I don't know when that was filmed. It was film

674
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: during the off season.

675
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 4: Okay, But he's running, he's running with Kutcher.

676
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: He's running with Ashton Kutcher, and Alex Twussants is also running.

677
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: So there's three treadmills going Ashton treadmills. Yeah, yeah, treadmills.

678
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: We're not outdoors, ale I have I have another service

679
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: that I can do that on my treadmill. And they're

680
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: like running outdoors right Like I'm running in the hills.

681
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: Thank you for not saying the name.

682
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't pay me.

683
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: Peton also has that option to run in the hills.

684
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: But Chris Paul's on his treadmill, yeah, Ashton Kutcher's on

685
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: his tread Alex Dusson's on his treadmill. He's running the

686
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: show like, I get it up to seven miles an hour,

687
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: get it up to seven and a half, that kind

688
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: of thing. Cutcher's talking to Chris Paul about his why

689
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: and why you're running. He's training for a marathon. Cool,

690
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: and Chris Paul's just there. I guess he's his friend.

691
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: Chris Paul is not training for a marathon. He's just

692
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: He just says, I don't want to go up to

693
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: seven and a half miles an hour, No, thank you, sir,

694
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna run at seven point two. He does

695
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: his own thing exactly, so listen. I think that locker

696
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: room with Kutcher, Paul, and Tucson has got better vibes

697
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: than the Sons. And that's what I'm Maybe that's my analys.

698
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: Singling to buy the team. Maybe he's trying to get

699
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: good with Chris Smart.

700
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, in all, honestly, you got the crowded I'm

701
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 4: not going to be here. I don't want to be here, obviously.

702
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 4: I've got the cloud of cyber selling team hanging over

703
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 4: the squad. And then there is the weird thing that

704
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 4: we learned that Eaton never even talked to Miney william

705
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 4: like all summer long? Is that a big deal? Some

706
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 4: say why Harris, Like, but what do you think?

707
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: Well, they won sixty four games last year, best road record,

708
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 3: best home record, and they've got them now at fifty

709
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: three and a half. So that's a huge drop off.

710
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: But look, I think ultimately the continuity of the team.

711
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: I know there is some friction there with the coach,

712
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: with DeAndre Ayton and Monty Williams, but you know, Paul Booker,

713
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: I think macal Bridges is going to be in for

714
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: a big season. I think Cam Johnson the same. Yeah,

715
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: And look, the Sons have got that like revenge motivation

716
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: of like we were humiliated in Game seven at home

717
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: last season in a playoff. They're in win now mode

718
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: with Chris Paul. They're a chance. They were two wins

719
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: away from the championship only what eighteen months ago, really

720
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: it was. So I think they can actually still win

721
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: more than fifty four games if they're healthy and stuff

722
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: like that, because they've got the talent there, and they've

723
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: got the continuity and they, like I said, they've got

724
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: reason to be like, hey, all those off court distractions

725
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: that you know, selling the team doesn't you know, affect

726
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: the players per se. They should go out there and say,

727
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna let these last two seasons of disappointment. We're

728
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: going to go out there and make sure we win

729
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: lock up home court in the first round. So I

730
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: have them over. I don't think they win sixty four

731
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 3: like they did last year, but I think they can

732
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: still win fifty six to fifty seven games based on

733
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: talent alone.

734
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: Trail.

735
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: What do you think?

736
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm exactly with Lee here. I'm over on fifty

737
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: three and a half, just because even if they lose

738
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: ten more games this year, they're still hitting the over.

739
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: They're bringing everybody back, except for whatever happens with Jae Crowder.

740
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: But at least they can plug in Cam Johnson there,

741
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: Dario Sura his back off the bench as well.

742
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a.

743
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: Tiny downgrade Javel McGee to Bismack Biamba, but Biambo performed

744
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: in his little bit of a run with the Suns

745
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: there last year. It's just a question of can the

746
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: Vibes be so bad that they go under? And I

747
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: think the Vibes are gonna be pretty bad, But as

748
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: soon as they start winning a few games, the Vibes

749
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: will be average, and if they have average vibes, it's

750
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: an easy overton.

751
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 4: Okay, let's hear with all of these teams from everybody

752
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: in the stream team whether you're hitting the over under

753
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 4: when we dropped these this is a tough one. I

754
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 4: think I do tend to go over though. I think

755
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 4: they're just if these guys are playing, Yeah, a good

756
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 4: squad and like you said, it eating Bridges and Cam

757
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 4: Johnson and theoretically should get better. Hell, Booker could even

758
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 4: go a tiny little bit more level and then Chris

759
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 4: Paul sort of the studying pace many Williams I believe

760
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 4: in as a coach, and yeah, you know, maybe you know, look,

761
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 4: not a good look to lose to an NBL team

762
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: no offense. No, I already said it was like a

763
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: bunch of their you know, they're B and C guys

764
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: and this team couldn't miss from three. It's like, okay,

765
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 4: people are piling on a little much here, I think.

766
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again that's sort of another I think might

767
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: device you for the sun, Like all right, let's flush

768
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: that one down the toilet, you know, and and get

769
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: ready they just mean if honestly, I believe a lot

770
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: in a team that has at least kept their core together. Yeah,

771
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: and that's why, you know, Chris Paul, they do need

772
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: the regular season the Phoenix Suns because they haven't been

773
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: able to win the championship. They're not the Warriors, so

774
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: they need any little advantage they can get, even though

775
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: last season it counts for nought. But yeah, I just

776
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: fifty three and a half seems almost like that's a

777
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: little bit too low considering that they didn't lose any

778
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: of their talent.

779
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: All right, Sacramento Kingks final team in the Pacific Division.

780
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: Always high on the Kings that last year, just to

781
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 4: remind you, they started six and eleven. They fired Luke Walton,

782
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 4: so Elvin Gentry came in. Not much changed really, and

783
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: then they said, okay, thanks for filling in there, Gentry.

784
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 4: We're gonna go get some Mike Brown and he is

785
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 4: their coach.

786
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: Now we're getting yet another guy from the Warriors.

787
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. They traded for Kevin Hurter or

788
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: go ahead, thank you. They signed Malik Monk, so I'm

789
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: shooting there. Two years, about twenty million dollars drafted Keig

790
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: Murray at the fourth pick. That had a lot of

791
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 4: people raising some eyebrows. But he played really, really well

792
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 4: in the summer league and looks legit. They signed Matthew Delavandova.

793
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 3: Come on, man, Paula Yeah, former NBA chant.

794
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 4: Well yeah, Mike, that's just Mike Brown saying hey, come on,

795
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: come join the squad. So thirty four and a half

796
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 4: not not high. This team hasn't made the postseason like

797
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 4: sixteen seasons running here, longest playoff drought in major American sports.

798
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 4: Now that the Mariners are making the playoffs, Oh wow,

799
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: is that right? The hunt that over? Okay, so Trey

800
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: gets started. I mean, like you could still win thirty

801
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 4: five games, hit the over and not make it playing.

802
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: So exactly right, Skeets. That's why I feel like I've

803
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 2: been putting on clown makeup the entire time you've been talking,

804
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: because I'm going over.

805
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, stupid Sacramento k Man.

806
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Darren Fox the Manta Sabonis, they showed some

807
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: good chemistry. At the very least, they're both good offensive players.

808
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: I think Fox was clearly energized by Sabonis coming over.

809
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: Last season. It was just sleepwalking through the first two

810
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: thirds of the season really, So those two being around

811
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: for the entirety of the year. I think is a

812
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: good basis for a decent offense. Herder Monk, Keegan Murray.

813
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: Hopefully they can shoot some threes make things a little

814
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: easier for their two main playmakers. I think they'll still

815
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: be pretty bad on defense, but at least they have

816
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: a defensive minded head coach in Mike Brown, who will

817
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: at least get them all on the same page. I'm

818
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: not expecting like it lights out season from the Sacramento Kings,

819
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: but I think they can challenge for the play in tournament.

820
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: I think they're definitely going over thirty four and a

821
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: half wins. Let's go Kings.

822
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 4: I love it.

823
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: That's the way to do it. You go over every

824
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: single year and hope it hits one time. Come on,

825
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm going under. Don't like you? Yeah?

826
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: Really what?

827
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: Well, look, the offense is going to be good, Mike

828
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: Brown come over from the Warriors. Well, I mean, suppose

829
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna score.

830
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: I know, I was like, oh, they must have been

831
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: decent on offense last year that I looked like twenty fifth.

832
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was bad shooting here, they're terrible.

833
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: Monk Yeah, and if you just imagine, you know, Sabonis

834
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 1: at the top with the ball. It's like Draymond Green

835
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: and Golden State, like Mike Brown had, you know as

836
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: the assistant coach. There guys running off the hymn. You know,

837
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: Fox running off Sabonis with the ball. It should be fun.

838
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: Samoa's a great passer. They should score, as you said

839
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: with Harrison Barnes, you know, Steady Steady, Freddy Keegan, Murray,

840
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: Malik Monk. But their defense is gonna stink Sabonis as

841
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: your center. It's not not not really gonna work all

842
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: that well. The sixteen years they've had this playoff drout,

843
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: they've stunk every year. It's amazing. You look at their

844
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: playoff ranking through sixteen years, or sorry, their defensive ranking

845
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: through this playoff drout each of these years. I'm gonna

846
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: go through it real quick. This is out of thirty teams,

847
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: remember twenty seven, thirty, nineteen, twenty one, twenty seven, twenty six,

848
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty seven, twenty three, twenty nine nine, twenty

849
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty thirty, twenty five, twenty two. It's bad

850
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: every year.

851
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 4: So I even go average Brown get them to ask.

852
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what he's saying.

853
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: To get Fox to like, really commit to the defensive

854
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 4: end along with Mitchell and at least stop some you know,

855
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 4: penetration from the perimeter. And then you're right the Sabona says,

856
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 4: your center is going to be tough to stop.

857
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: Will Deli instills some defense, No, it just just to

858
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: help out the locker room.

859
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: Really, that's what he's He's a bit of a Patrick Bell.

860
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly they've got. They've got Chimnecki who might be

861
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: their starting power forward to help out the defense. Yes,

862
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: that is a man who could help out their defense,

863
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: but uh, I don't see it happening here.

864
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 4: Here's what you have to watch with the Kings very

865
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: early in the season there for them to hit the over.

866
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 4: There are four teams that should be worse than them

867
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: in the Western Conference, right, the Jazz, the Spurs, the Thunder,

868
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 4: and then and then maybe the Rockets, depending on how

869
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 4: you feel about them. Yeah, so that's what I didn't check.

870
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 4: If they play all four of those teams four times,

871
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: sometimes it's three times, but let's call it. You know,

872
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 4: that's that's fourteen to sixteen games that the Kings have

873
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 4: to win a majority of those games, and that is

874
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 4: not a lock. But they need to win a very

875
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: high percentage of those games to this to then hit

876
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: this over because there's so many good teams in the West.

877
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 4: And I think they can because a lot of those

878
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 4: teams don't want to win, and I believe in Fox

879
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 4: having a big bounce back. Yere, the numbers were pretty

880
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: amazing with Sabonis. Now, I know you're not really playing

881
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 4: for much at the end of last year, and there's

882
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 4: the good vibes and new vibes of a new teammate

883
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 4: and Sabona, so everybody's happy. But I I think with

884
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 4: the moves they made, I think they had a really

885
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 4: good offseason. And Hollinger also says, remember that history is

886
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: not destiny. Just because we're used to seeing the Kings

887
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: screw up things doesn't mean they're bound to continue doing

888
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 4: so that's the belief you have to have.

889
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: I love the over for the Kings, Hollinger.

890
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, positive, John, that's right.

891
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: But at the same time, the problem is there's just

892
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: so many good teams in the West. Y. Yeah, you

893
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: mentioned the bad ones. There's four teams that are looking

894
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: for the lottery, but the Kings aren't going Even if

895
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: they play those four teams, they're not going sixteen to

896
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: zero against those teams.

897
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, for sure, and then the Kings are

898
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: battling your Lakers, maybe your hell hell, maybe the Blazer

899
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 4: is a good one. Yeah for Plan. I just can't

900
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: wait for the Kings to make the Plan Tournament and

901
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 4: then for us to have the very heated debate about

902
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 4: whether they snapped their right the playoff trail. Well, they

903
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 4: were just in the play that's what's gonna happen.

904
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 3: They'll finish seventh, but then lose to the first game

905
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: and then lose the second game, and.

906
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, people say, well they would have been Okay, I'm

907
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 4: going ultimately over, you were under. We had an over

908
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: of train, not happy about it.

909
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: And I look, I just want them to hit the over.

910
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say give me the over at thirty

911
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 3: six games. I mean, you feel the same way about

912
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 3: the Kings every season. I think it's like, okay, maybe

913
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 3: they can just get it together, and then something happened.

914
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: Listen Davy on Mitchell, I think good defensively. He gives

915
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: them some intensity, so they should improve defensively. Mike Brown

916
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: is exactly So. Now, I was a little concerned because

917
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: I saw a video game round that yeah, someone or

918
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: three people in a row. He had to hit two

919
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 3: free throws the other day at the end of practice,

920
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: and if they didn't, they all ran sprints. They were

921
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: running a lot of sprints. So I'm a little concerned

922
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: about the line. But look, I think for for just

923
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 3: I think if you're an NBA fan, you're just like,

924
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: let's just hope the Kings can get in and break

925
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 3: that trout and then pass the drought onto whichever team's behind.

926
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: It's probably a hockey team, I don't know whatever, but

927
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: I wonder who is who's next.

928
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 4: I don't know.

929
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 3: It just feels like at some point they're going to

930
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: just rattle off thirty nine wins and sneak in. So

931
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: let's hope it's this season.

932
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, three of us go on the over on

933
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 4: the King, So who you got that?

934
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 2: New York Football Jets Jet have the next longest playoff drought,

935
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: tied with the Buffalo Sabers.

936
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 3: Really, the Buffalo Sabers, with one of those just teams

937
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: that always made it, never threatened, but always made the.

938
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 4: Playoffs, was the opposite. I guess you're in the wrong decade.

939
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: I think that's what's happening. Okay, so let's take our

940
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 4: first break. When we come back, we'll get into the

941
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: Northwest Division. Don't go anywhere, all right, back in the

942
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 4: classic factory with the No Dunk's boys going through every

943
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: Western Conference team and debating whether they're going to hit

944
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: the over or when it comes to their win totals.

945
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: All of these coming by way of Bett MGM. We

946
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 4: go to the Northwest Division. We'll start with the Denver

947
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 4: Nuggets at fifty and a half wins, Trey. You can

948
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 4: get it started here, just to recap. They traded for

949
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 4: KCP who then signed a contract extension. They signed Bruce Brown,

950
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 4: which I think went under the radar a little bit,

951
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 4: and DeAndre Jordan is on this team. They traded for

952
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: Ish Smith, Jeff Green exercised his player option, and U

953
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: Yokich he signed that giant contract extension. No brain there,

954
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 4: all the barley you could feed the horses horses, Yeah, yeah,

955
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 4: I don't know what you give a horse? Yeah, alright,

956
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 4: like BEI okay, So the Nuggets though, and then yeah,

957
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 4: Jamal Murray coming back, Michael Porter Junior in theory fifty

958
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 4: and a half, what do you think? What do you think?

959
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: Telling me horses don't like greens. I know that this

960
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: is my lockiest lock of all the locks out here.

961
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 6: This is.

962
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 2: The over easy over forty eight wins last season, nine

963
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: games combined from Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Junior. I

964
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: like the additions of KCP and Bruce Brown. Yep, they

965
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: don't have a ton of depth, so certainly injuries to

966
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: any of their top guys will be a problem. But

967
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: it's those guys returning that make this an over for me.

968
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: We've seen incredible performances from Jokic. We saw how well

969
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: the starting lineup fit when Aaron Gordon was traded to

970
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: the team a couple of seasons back. They only played

971
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: five games together, they did go four and one. That

972
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: would put them on pace for sixty plus wins. I

973
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: think that's probably over shooting things a little bit, but

974
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 2: I think the Nuggets are going to be incredible. Jokic

975
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: is so good, and now he's actually got some co

976
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: stars alongside him.

977
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 4: Okay, easy over for yeah.

978
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 3: I was the same when I first saw it. I fifteen,

979
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: they'll be closer to fifty seven to fifty eight, But

980
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: then look, Jamal Murray has missed so much time and

981
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: he's he's back now and he's expected to play, but

982
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 3: it's gonna take a little bit of an adjustment there.

983
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 3: And Michael Port Jr. Who knows exactly what you're gonna

984
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: get out of him, you know, like.

985
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 4: Guys had three backs exactly the age of twenty four.

986
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: And even when he plays, he's very good score and shooter,

987
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: but he's still got tons of problems there defensively. So

988
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: I like the KCP addition, but I think this is

989
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: pretty much where I've got the nugger. I don't think

990
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: they smashed the over. I think they probably do get

991
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: over at about fifty one or fifty two. Because Trey

992
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: mentioned they only won forty eight last season with Yokic,

993
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 3: you think, well, all these you know, other players come up,

994
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: they should go over that. But it just feels to

995
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 3: me like I'm pumping the brakes a little on them.

996
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 3: I need to see I need to see Jamal Murray

997
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: back playing really, really good. He's the biggest pendulum swing

998
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: for this season. You know, Yokic is going to be

999
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: an MVP candidate even if they only win, you know,

1000
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: forty five games, because he's done that the last couple

1001
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: of seasons. But I just want to see it before.

1002
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 3: I really believe in the Nuggets, so I have them

1003
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 3: as the over.

1004
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 4: But just okay, what do you think.

1005
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: Tess Well, no more disrespect of Nikolay Yolkic anymore. We've

1006
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: disrespected him for long enough. We always say he's going

1007
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: to make his teammates better, and I think Jamal Murray

1008
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: is easily going to be an all star level. Obviously

1009
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: we got to see him play, but preseason Jamie jams

1010
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: all over the place. He's getting up, So not only him,

1011
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: but the guy he's got, Jokis has enough guys to

1012
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: make better this year. Bruce Brown, as he said, sneaking

1013
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: under the radar, he's going to be really good with Jokic,

1014
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: he's cutting all over the place. Is gonna find him?

1015
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: Can Davis Caldwell Pope another guy who's just a really

1016
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: solid veteran hitting threes around Jokic. And they traded Monte

1017
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: Morris because they believe in Bones Highland, so I think

1018
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: bones Hiland will take a step forward. Plus Aaron Gordon,

1019
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: as you guys said about Michael Porter Junior, I get it,

1020
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: who the heck knows, but I think there's enough other guys.

1021
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: Zeke Naji even is as decent. We're going deep here,

1022
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: but uh, I think Jokic is gonna make all those

1023
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: players look super good. And again we've disrespected him for

1024
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: two seasons, so that's part of my gotta go over.

1025
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: He's got to have a good team. I think Jamal

1026
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: Murray will be back. He took his time coming back.

1027
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 4: I was gonna say it's like eighteen months from his

1028
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 4: acl Aran repairs.

1029
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: That Australia kicking those rules around looking great.

1030
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're if you have a sore acl you're

1031
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: not not right.

1032
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 3: Australia kicked a golf too straight through the middle, looking great.

1033
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm hitting the over on this one too. This

1034
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 4: one actually I think open to forty eight and a

1035
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 4: half and so people are starting to like bet that

1036
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 4: one because they're like, what your kitchen. Then these guys

1037
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 4: coming back and the moves they made, I think it's over.

1038
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 4: I think they're like, I think they're in that fifty

1039
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 4: three to fifty five wins somewhere around there flirting. So

1040
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 4: that would be somewhat of an easy over. But we'll

1041
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 4: see next team. Minnesota Timberwolves. Oh boy, interesting, forty eight

1042
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 4: and a half gonna start at task. I mean the

1043
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 4: obviously they trade for Rudy Gobert, that's a big thing.

1044
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 4: They signed Kyle Anderson, they signed Austin Rivers, Nathan Knight.

1045
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 4: Those are the big, big moves the new pieces. Is

1046
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 4: this gonna work.

1047
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Rudy Gobert in the regular season, It's gotta work.

1048
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna help their defense. He puts less pressure on

1049
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns to play defense and protect the rim.

1050
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: I think what we're all sort of overlooking is he's

1051
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: going to be a great pick and roll partner for

1052
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: D'Angelo Russell. It's been written about on the athletic I

1053
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: think that makes total sense. It's gonna help out Daniel Russell,

1054
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: who is now the incumbent point guard. No Patrick Beverley

1055
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: breathing down his neck. The Wolves, they completed five lob

1056
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: passes last season. According to Chris Finch, their head coach.

1057
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: Gobert threw down eighty seven by himself last year. So

1058
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: Russell's going to have a partner to throw balls to.

1059
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: And this is year three for Anthony Edwards. He said

1060
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: he's added ten pounds of muscle, and I believe him

1061
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: and I think he'll he'll grow so Yeah, they're kind

1062
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: of top heavy. As I said, I just mentioned, you know,

1063
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: the top top players on their team and Kat go Bear,

1064
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: Daniel Russell, Anthony Edwards. Jan McDaniels might be their starting

1065
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: small forward. The Kyle Anderson move is good, So injuries.

1066
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: What would be a problem for you and a half

1067
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: is is I'm a little worried, but I think they're

1068
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: good enough in the regular season to get the fifty wins.

1069
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: I think they are a team that does need the

1070
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 3: regular season. They need to really establish themselves as a

1071
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 3: as a legit I mean not contain dra and I

1072
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: want to guy that far yet. But they made the

1073
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: big move. They gave up a ton to get Rudy

1074
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: go Bear, Karl Anthony towns Now has a legit defensive

1075
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: stopper there rebound a shop locker and then a guy

1076
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: who can go down and it'll still get your fourteen

1077
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 3: or fifteen points at the other end. So the Wolves

1078
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 3: need to be like, Okay, we are making real progress here.

1079
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: They're going to go for it. Anthony Edwards, I think, yeah,

1080
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 3: he's going to be in for an all star caliber season.

1081
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: You know that he wants it. He's going to go

1082
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 3: out there and try to really improve his own game.

1083
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 3: So I think the Wolves do hit the over here.

1084
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 3: I mean they have to. Surely they have to win

1085
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: like fifty three games this season. I think if they don't,

1086
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: I think it'll be honestly a real disappointment for them.

1087
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: You know, you don't make a big move. Tim Connolly,

1088
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 3: the new GM who came in from the Nuggets, made

1089
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: this big, splashy move, prepared to sacrifice some of their

1090
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 3: future in order to do it. So they need those results.

1091
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: Chris Finch as well, like he's not under pressure, but

1092
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 3: you know he's got to make sure this team gets

1093
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: out of the gate off to a good start and

1094
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: shows like these these years, these couple last season, of

1095
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: course they made the playoffs. They lost to the Memphis

1096
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 3: Grizzlies there, but they want to use that as a

1097
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: stepping stone to something better. Now. Karl Anthony Towns, this

1098
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: is a sort of situation. He's been wanting to have

1099
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: some defensive help and he's got it. So I think

1100
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: they're going to be super motivated to prove something in

1101
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 3: the regular season. I've got him well, well not well

1102
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: of it, but they had fifty three wins. I've got

1103
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 3: him met.

1104
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 4: Okay, So do you think they have to make it

1105
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 4: out of the first round of the playoffs to avoid

1106
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 4: criticisms of Gobert Dill.

1107
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

1108
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: I do.

1109
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, they just have to make

1110
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 3: people believe that there is something real about this team,

1111
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: not just like they're making up the numbers in the

1112
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: playoffs like they did a bit last season.

1113
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 4: What do you think on forty eight and a half

1114
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 4: for the Wolves?

1115
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: This is one of the toughest lines to me. This

1116
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: and Dallas Mavericks. Mavericks also at forty eight and a half,

1117
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: And it came down to Minnesota and Dallas for me

1118
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: for who is going to be the last fifty win team. Okay,

1119
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: on the Western Conference. So ultimately I'm going under a

1120
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: barely under for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Give me exactly forty

1121
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: eight wins. They are going to be playing two centers.

1122
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna be weird. There's gonna be some awkward moments

1123
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 2: with two big guys out there when Gobert sitting cat

1124
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: is still going to be a target, no doubt about it.

1125
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: I do love the idea of Anthony Edwards finally playing

1126
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 2: with a pick and roll guy. We've seen D'Angelo Russell

1127
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: have success with Jared Allen back in the day, a

1128
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: very similar player to Rudy Gobert. So I think they

1129
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: will be good. I think this will be a good

1130
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: season for the Timberwolves. But the Western Conference is tough.

1131
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: They could easily be a fifty win team. But I

1132
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: think they're just gonna be also a good team high forties.

1133
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,959
Speaker 2: So under Bear, how many.

1134
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 4: Fifty win teams then do you think for in the

1135
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 4: Western Conference? Okay, so you had the Suns is one, Yeah,

1136
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 4: the Warriors is another, Nuggets, Nuggets, and then okay tbd. Wow,

1137
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 4: it's gonna get the average Okay aage, Okay, Yeah, it's

1138
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 4: a good line. Oh man, I think I think I

1139
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 4: would hit the over just just just just so I'd

1140
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 4: see this team winning forty nine to fifty games, because

1141
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's really gonna be Go Bear

1142
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 4: or Draymond Green going for Defensive Player of the Year.

1143
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna come down probably to one of

1144
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 4: those two guys. Draymond because he really really wants it.

1145
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 4: Go Bear because he's got great built in narrative. If

1146
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 4: he can get another team as a top five defense,

1147
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 4: like when he comes in there, it's like just plug

1148
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: him playing and it's like, Wow, they're a lead on

1149
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 4: that level level that could get in his fourth So

1150
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 4: I'll go us just over. But it's banking on a lot.

1151
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 4: I mean, you're high on D'Angel Russell and you know,

1152
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 4: putting Gobert as sort of a role partner. Sure, but

1153
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 4: he struggles at times too, and crap the bed there

1154
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 4: in the in the postseason a couple of those games,

1155
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards, I mean, I'm almost like, I'm almost a

1156
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 4: little concerned. People are so like, lock him in as

1157
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 4: an All Star, lock him in as a potential superstars,

1158
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 4: Like I want it. I want to see it. But

1159
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 4: can we get ahead of ourselves sometimes with some of

1160
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 4: these players, we do that all the time. So yeah,

1161
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 4: but it should be really good in the regular season

1162
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 4: and then we'll get into the postseason and then the

1163
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 4: teams exploit them. Yeah, with Gobert out there, Okay, I'll

1164
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 4: hit just the over. Oklahoma City Thunder twenty three and

1165
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 4: a half wins one of the youngest teams, if not

1166
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 4: the youngest team in the league. No, Chet Holmegren, of course,

1167
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: he won't be playing the entire season twenty three and

1168
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 4: a half is not a lot though.

1169
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: No it's not. I mean, have they any better than

1170
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: with that Chet from last season? You know, I don't

1171
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 3: really think so. I mean I think they were playing

1172
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: on on obviously starting to make a bit of progress

1173
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: this season, and that now Chet really sort of sets

1174
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: them back to him not being there. So I think

1175
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: they're going to be just in another season of kind

1176
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 3: of development and gross seeing what Josh Giddy can do

1177
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: in his second season. Lou Dort got the big contract

1178
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: on the off two and a half, then Gil just

1179
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: Alexander's injured right now, and there's sort of there's a

1180
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 3: little bit of smoke about maybe they're going to move

1181
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 3: on from him going to the Raptors. That's what I'm hearing.

1182
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 4: They're taking a look Ader.

1183
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: I still don't quite know what to make He looks

1184
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: like a good player. I know you've had your all

1185
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 3: star sort of bet going there for a couple of years,

1186
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: but it's like, is he actually really good or is

1187
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 3: he just like the best player on a terrible team.

1188
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not sure where he falls, and he

1189
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: tends to he feels like he's injured a lot. So

1190
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 3: I've got him. Give me the ender I don't, honestly

1191
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 3: don't really know. To this team, you just don't quite

1192
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: know because they've tanked for a couple of seasons and

1193
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: you know the big blow with Jet there, So.

1194
00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, under under the I'm going over. They won twenty

1195
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: four last year. And uh Mark Mark Digno the most

1196
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: anonymous coach.

1197
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 3: In the NBA Red Light thirty.

1198
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: Well, so you know about their coaches.

1199
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure.

1200
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1201
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: Well, Mark Digno had this OKC team working defensively. I

1202
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: think he motivates them. They're middle of the pack defensively,

1203
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: they're twenty ninth on offense. They stunk. But if Shake

1204
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: Gills just Alexander's out there and and those rumors about

1205
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: the Raptors getting him, I mean, stop it. Our man

1206
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: Andrew Schleck talked to Shake Gils Just Alexander a one

1207
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: on one and Chase said, I signed here for five

1208
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: years for a reason. I think we're going to get

1209
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: better soon. So I think he's going to get on

1210
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: the floor, he said, And this is good for the

1211
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: team that what he worked on in the off season

1212
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: was getting better off the ball, because he's he wants

1213
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 1: to be a more complete player. So let's like say

1214
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: he if he's off the ball. You know, Josh Giddy

1215
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: can do some stuff, and Trey Man can do some stuff.

1216
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: He only played fifty six games last year. Yeah, I

1217
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: mentioned those guys because I think they're They're decent enough.

1218
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: If they if they work defensively to be a better offense,

1219
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: they'll grow. They'll grow. It does suck. Suck seeing those

1220
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: highlights highlights, they're not highlights. The video of Chet Holmgren

1221
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: on that scooter. Have you seen him. He's not putting

1222
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: any weight on his leg. He's got that the scooter

1223
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: device where he's shooting on the floor.

1224
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 4: Sucks.

1225
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: But I do think that this team is is kind

1226
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: of a for real team, not a for real contender,

1227
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: but a for real team. They want to get better.

1228
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: So they won twenty four last year. I think they

1229
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: can do it.

1230
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: Suy, Well, they're not the Oklahoma City Thover. There's one

1231
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: team in the league has under in their name, and

1232
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: they've earned him. Their two best players are hurt to

1233
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: start the season. They're going to be bad, and they're

1234
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: not going to have any motivation to bring Shrey Gil

1235
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: just Alexander back if they've already got him locked up

1236
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: for the next four seasons after this one. Why risk

1237
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: it in the year when you're gonna win twenty something games.

1238
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: So I'm going under for the thunder under thunder.

1239
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 4: On Oh wow, Okay, okay, yeah, twenty three and a half. Unfortunately,

1240
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 4: I'm going under it as well and move on because

1241
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 4: they're at a certain point too. They'll make the calculation.

1242
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, it's in our best interest, like maybe

1243
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 4: we would get Henderson. Maybe I went by, I get

1244
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 4: a chance at it, and then wow, man, like then

1245
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 4: that team could have like five incredible players if they

1246
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 4: would all play. Yeah, so maybe one more year of

1247
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 4: just development, like you said. Unfortunately, but they should be

1248
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 4: scrappy at the very least. Okay, Portland Trailblazers, that's a

1249
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 4: tough one in my opinion. Thirty nine and a half.

1250
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 4: I do not know what to think of this team.

1251
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 4: You know, Lillard only played twenty nine games last year.

1252
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: They traded away like three of their best players really

1253
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 4: in Covington, Powell, McCollum, Anthony Simons had a great two

1254
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 4: month stretch, put up huge numbers. He got paid in

1255
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 4: the contract extension four years one hundred million. They traded

1256
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 4: for Jeremy Grant. They signed Gary Payton the second you know,

1257
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 4: they did some things here in also addition re signing

1258
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 4: Ur Kitchen, I guess said Drew Ebanks is on the

1259
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 4: team too, and they drafted Sharp with you know, one

1260
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 4: of their lottery picks. So where do you put the

1261
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 4: Portland Trailbazers tasks? I mean, are they going to hit

1262
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 4: over thirty nine a half wins? Are they have forty

1263
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 4: win team or they have five hundred team?

1264
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a good number for them. Right, you're

1265
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: in and you're out. This team is just an average team.

1266
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: Trey worked in a great joke there with the Oklahoma

1267
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: City Thunder. I'm trying to work in a Portland like

1268
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: a mediocre, mediocre type name here with the Trailblazers, like

1269
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: average Portland Trail Blaveragers. Nopeum, they're gonna be around that number.

1270
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: They continue to be lousy though defensively I think, uh,

1271
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: And they're gonna start Damian Lillard.

1272
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 4: Doesn't grant help, doesn't Gary Peters second help?

1273
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, is Payton will be coming off the bench their

1274
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: starting lineup. It's it's sort of it's sort of like

1275
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: Lillard and McCollum in the back court with Lillard and

1276
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: Simon's and Nurkic as your center. Same thing going forward.

1277
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: Listen Grant and Josh Hart at the forward positions, probably

1278
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: probably Heart alongside Grant. I could be wrong, but they

1279
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: are thin up front. Maybe Justice Winslow, one of my faves,

1280
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: will have a play center again as a backup to Nurkic.

1281
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but it's just feels like this

1282
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: team will be good offensively and bad defensively. Again, so

1283
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: it's a perfect average number. I'll go under just on here.

1284
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 4: Okay, perfect, I'll go just over.

1285
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna going like exactly forty or forty one wins

1286
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: because I think they are going to be just like

1287
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 2: you're saying, tass, a perfect middle of the road Blazers team,

1288
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 2: very similar to Blazer's teams we've seen in the recent past,

1289
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: only now CJ. McCollum has become Anthony Simons. I mean,

1290
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: how good of a defense can you have with a

1291
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 2: small back court and a slow center. That's the problem.

1292
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: And Nurkic at his best was a pretty solid back

1293
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: line defender, but he's been banged up for quite a

1294
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: few seasons now, so I don't know that he'll be

1295
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 2: able to hold down the fort but they'll be better

1296
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: than last year. That was one of the worst seasons

1297
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 2: we've seen from Portland in quite some time, and obviously

1298
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: they had no motivation to win once Dame went down.

1299
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: So maybe with his health he can reach forty six

1300
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 2: wins if they if everything hits perfectly. But I got

1301
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: them more right around five hundred.

1302
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, is it?

1303
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: You know?

1304
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 4: The revenge tour here for Damian Lillard because everybody's sort

1305
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 4: of moved on from him on the elite players in

1306
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 4: the league because of injuries and sort of this team

1307
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 4: being New Yorker for a little bit feels like that.

1308
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 4: But he's got something to say. What do you think?

1309
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean he signed the big two year,

1310
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty million. I think it was extension

1311
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 3: there to stay on the only one twenty seven. Now.

1312
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 3: I know he's a big factor, but to jump up

1313
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 3: to thirteen wins from last season. I like Gary Payton,

1314
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: but again, like a defensive guy, does he really improve

1315
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 3: them that many wins? Shade and sharp again, rookie, who

1316
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 3: knows what you're going to get? The people saying he's

1317
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: a great pick, but you just don't know what you're

1318
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: going to get out of him, So it's a little

1319
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 3: high for me. I'm not And the thing with Nurkich,

1320
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: I respect him because he came back from that horrific injury,

1321
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: but he is a bit of a lumbering big man,

1322
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 3: and he also sort of wonder how how many games

1323
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 3: he's going to miss an after him, they do seem

1324
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 3: very thin, so I'm going under. I think thirty nine

1325
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: and a half is too high. I think they're closer

1326
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 3: to about thirty five.

1327
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 4: I'm going over on this one. I think this is

1328
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 4: at least a five hundred team. If Lillard plays, I

1329
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 4: think he's still that good, and I like the routician

1330
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 4: If Sharp is sort of like a Damon in the rough,

1331
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 4: the eight man route would be Lillard Simon's heart nor

1332
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 4: little Peyton second Grant who we don't even talk about.

1333
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 4: He has a good player, and then you could throw

1334
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 4: Sharp in there. That's a solid eat man rotation. Excited

1335
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 4: to see what Phillips does with it. I think they're

1336
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 4: a five hundred squad, So that means I'm hitting the over.

1337
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: You're disrespecting a man. Justice Winslow, Well, you you you

1338
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: gotta let that go.

1339
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 4: It's like, uh, you're you're Wayne Ellington is my guy

1340
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 4: and Justice winslows.

1341
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: We gotta let it go, man, I just I want

1342
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: to judge connection here in the NBA. I've been talking

1343
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: about Aaron Judge for so long on no bunts, the

1344
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: Justice will be playing. No, you're right, You're I don't know,

1345
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: says he is in the best shape of his career.

1346
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: He took months off for the first time in his career.

1347
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: Maybe he's great, he could do it.

1348
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 2: Here's a couple of suggestions from the stream potential Portland

1349
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: trail Blazer's nicknames Portland trail Blazers, Portland Blase's my favorite,

1350
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: I think from C. W. E. Crocker The trail Blanders

1351
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: very good, it's weird, it's a rich Yeah.

1352
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 4: Utah Jazz twenty five and a half wins more wins

1353
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 4: than the Thunder. Yeah, you're perked up when I said

1354
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 4: that number, go ahead.

1355
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: Well, because when I was doing my research for them,

1356
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 3: I was like, man, what is going on with the Jazz?

1357
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: And then I thought, this is the real only question.

1358
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 3: If NBA jams started this year, who would be the

1359
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: reps from the Utah Jazz this season, Like Colin Sexon

1360
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 3: and Rudy Gay, Mike Conley, Kelly Olynyk.

1361
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 4: Clarkson, Yes, he's still there.

1362
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, because look that's Clark and Mark. Ultimately, if you're

1363
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 3: a veteran on this team, you're going to try to

1364
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 3: play your way out because they're nowhere near And if

1365
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 3: you're a young guy, you might want to go to

1366
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 3: try and press, but you're also not going to get

1367
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 3: a many many wins out there. So I think obviously

1368
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 3: you know the big three of Snyder, Gobert and Mitchell

1369
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 3: and not there. They've got a brand new coach, will Hardy.

1370
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 4: Snyder above bug Batavan.

1371
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 3: Well yeah, Buggy just got traded as well, clearly barely

1372
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 3: even trying to win. I think twenty six is why

1373
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 3: too hot for him. I've got him well below that. Yeah,

1374
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 3: but if they win twenty games, I think that'll be

1375
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 3: a surprise.

1376
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 4: I'll just give you some names that are on the

1377
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 4: Jazz because I don't think a lot of people really

1378
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 4: know Clarkson is still there, Conley is still there. You

1379
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 4: got Jared Vanderbilt, you got Lowry market In, you got

1380
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 4: Colin Sexon, you got Taylor Horton, Tucker Stanley Johnson, Malik Beasley,

1381
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 4: Balmorrow Walker, Kessler, Kelly Linnox Saban Lee in that trade

1382
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 4: with the Pistons. There at the end, those last.

1383
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: Two Alexander Walker.

1384
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 4: Oh yes, a Canadian boy. It's crazy. Harper wrote, this

1385
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 4: team won forty nine games and had the number one

1386
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 4: offense in the league last year. Yeah, and you know

1387
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 4: they've ripped it all down and are probably going to

1388
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 4: purposely try and lose. But can they fall into twenty

1389
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 4: six wins or more?

1390
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

1391
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: I think so?

1392
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 4: You think so?

1393
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh wow? I think Danny Angewant is going to

1394
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: play all those vets.

1395
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 4: You mentioned those vets.

1396
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: He wants to trade him. So the first part of

1397
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: the season, Mike Conley is leading your team. He can

1398
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: run ashore. Sure, Colin Saxon can score twenty per beside him,

1399
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: Clarkson coming off the bench can score twenty per.

1400
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 3: Both of them keep up fifty.

1401
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: Well, you've got Jared Vanderbilt manning the center. He's probably

1402
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: good for a few wins with the way he works.

1403
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 4: I think you play a link. Maybe he can get

1404
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 4: you a link first round? Mark, Mark, don't it?

1405
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: But no, Yeah, that's a little much. But market In

1406
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: looks decent recently. I think he's had a good year.

1407
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: Last year he played well in Europe twenty six wins

1408
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: for that those vets. I think it's doable. I think

1409
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: it's do I'm going over.

1410
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 3: I do not.

1411
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 4: I think this is I think this could be maybe

1412
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 4: the worst team in the league.

1413
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, what.

1414
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 4: Do you think they'll trade?

1415
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1416
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: I would go over for before the trade deadline and

1417
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: under for after the trade deadline. It all just comes

1418
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 2: down to when they trade all in their veterans. Like,

1419
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: if they're able to get it done in November December,

1420
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: then their total will be underneath twenty five and a

1421
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: half wins. But if they hang onto those guys and

1422
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 2: try and get the best deal they can come February,

1423
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: maybe they stack up enough wins to go over. I

1424
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: think they are going to be very bad. But they've

1425
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: got some veterans on the team right now who've shown

1426
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: flashes in the past, So I mean, ultimately put me under.

1427
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 2: I guess just because I feel like I got more

1428
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: overs right now.

1429
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 3: The you and Utah is Faranda.

1430
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 4: There you go.

1431
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, this year we're gonna do this everything. Yeah trying

1432
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 3: to okay?

1433
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 6: Good?

1434
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 4: All right, well that is the Northwest Division. I, like

1435
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 4: I said, I'm going under on the Utah Jazz. We've

1436
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 4: got one more division still to go, but we got

1437
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 4: to take one more break and TK, what do you

1438
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 4: got for us? All right? One more division to go

1439
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 4: here in the over unders, it is the Southwest Division.

1440
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 4: We start with the Dallas Mavericks forty eight and a

1441
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 4: half wins, exactly the same there as the Nuggets. They

1442
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 4: finished thirty six and twelve in their final forty eight

1443
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 4: games last year. Like on a tear, they make a

1444
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 4: conference finals run, but they lose Jail in Brunson. They

1445
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 4: bring in Christian wood Re signed a couple of their

1446
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 4: own guys in Maxi Kliba, Theo Pinson, and they also

1447
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 4: got JaVale McGee three years, seventeen million for Jamail. Hello,

1448
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 4: so you already sort of tipped your hat slash hand

1449
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 4: that you like the MAVs as a as an over team.

1450
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 4: You have him as a fifty win team.

1451
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: Definitely fifty two wins last year. And the big thing

1452
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: to me is that Lucas coming in in shape. He

1453
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: just played an international tournament. So I said, over the

1454
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 2: over the summer, I'm not talking myself into Luka Doncicz

1455
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 2: winning the MVP this year I'm not gonna do it again.

1456
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: Well guess what's suckers, no spoilers, but I'm probably hopping

1457
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: on the Luca bandwagon here. I just think he is

1458
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 2: so good that he can raise the level of the

1459
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: Mavericks and compensate for whatever loss they may have. With

1460
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson going to the Knicks, Tim Hardaway Junior is

1461
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 2: going to be back. He got a fifty point game,

1462
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: just weight y.

1463
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe this is the year.

1464
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: This is the year we'll see what Christian Wood does.

1465
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: I think he's a talented offensive player at the very least.

1466
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: I think that he will help pick up a little

1467
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: bit of the slack for Jalen Brunson as well. And

1468
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: he's going to be an awesome partner for Luca as

1469
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: well when they're on the court together. So they settled

1470
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: on on on an identity. Last year, they played really

1471
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: good defense and Luca was just straight up ball and

1472
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: that will be the case again this year.

1473
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 4: So give me the over. What do you think.

1474
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: Tests I'm with you. Fifty two wins last year, so

1475
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: this forty eight and a half seems a little low.

1476
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: Why is it low? I think people are down on

1477
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: the acquisitions as he said, Jalen Brunton out and Christian

1478
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: would in.

1479
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 4: People don't love Christian Wood.

1480
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: He's been giving up on a couple of teams. Now

1481
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: Detroit let him go. Houston signed a contract, but they

1482
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: let him go. I get that this is a contract

1483
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: year for him, so that bodes wor good. That's good,

1484
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: But the biggest factor is and none of those acquisitions

1485
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: really matter. I think it's it's all about Luca coming

1486
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: in in shape for the first time in his five

1487
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: year career. I think that's he He looks the best,

1488
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's just because he's tanned. I

1489
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: think in general he's he played basketball all summer, so

1490
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing. And so very Atlanta Braves like

1491
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: to finish the season. Would you say thirty two and sixteen, Yeah, twelve,

1492
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: I got those numbers round, But yeah, they finished hot.

1493
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: They start. You think got JaVale McGee starting at center.

1494
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: Is that a good thing? I don't know. They got

1495
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: Christian Wood coming off the bench most likely right now.

1496
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 4: That was news to him apparently, Yeah, was it a joke?

1497
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: He joked as as our Man Cato wrote about on

1498
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: the Athletic I got the over forty and a half

1499
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,479
Speaker 1: seems a little low soutly.

1500
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 4: A lot of people are wondering if this year's Mavericks

1501
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 4: are the Hawks from sort of two years ago. A surprise,

1502
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 4: you want to call it, that conference finals run. Everybody's

1503
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 4: high on them, here we go, and then last year

1504
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 4: of the Hawks sort of fall back to earth, and

1505
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 4: people are wondering if that could also happen to Mavericks here.

1506
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 3: Well, because I think they sort of snuck up a

1507
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 3: little bit with that late run because it was pretty

1508
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 3: much small ball, you know, they didn't really have a

1509
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 3: big so they addressed that somewhat by getting Wood and

1510
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,439
Speaker 3: Javaial McGee. I mean they sort of combined or one

1511
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 3: decent player, but individually they have their problem. Luca. Now, look,

1512
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 3: he will win the MVP if they win fifty seven games,

1513
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 3: I think because his numbers basically haven't really changed all

1514
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 3: that much in the last three seasons, so he's got

1515
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 3: the bar so high already that he's not going to

1516
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 3: do I don't think his numbers are going to be

1517
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 3: any different this season, so it's coming to go down

1518
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 3: to many wins the Mavericks get and if he stays

1519
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 3: on the floor, because he only played sixty five games

1520
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 3: last year. He played sixty six the year before and

1521
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 3: sixty one the year before that, and having played awesome

1522
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: in EuroBasket is great. But you wonder as well he

1523
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 3: had a long playoff run. He's got so much of

1524
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 3: that work sort of falls on his shoulders. Maybe that

1525
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 3: sort of catches up with him a little bit here,

1526
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 3: but overall, I think he is, you know, clearly one

1527
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 3: of the best players in the league. He should be

1528
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 3: an MVP favorite. And if he can get the Mavericks

1529
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 3: to a I think, yeah, I think fifty seven to

1530
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 3: sixty wins if they is, if they can.

1531
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 4: Get back that, then you can just handle them now.

1532
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 3: But that you know, it's going to be tough for

1533
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 3: them to get up to that level. So I've got

1534
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 3: I am surprised again. You guys mentioned fifty two last

1535
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 3: year and they've got him at forty eight. I'm surprised

1536
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 3: that's lower. I would have thought they're closer to what

1537
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 3: they were.

1538
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 4: So I've got to Jed louis a guy like jilln

1539
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 4: Brunso was damn good. Yeah, he was. I guess people

1540
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 4: are sort of like, is he that good? I don't know,

1541
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 4: but that's a proven scorer.

1542
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they will hope to replace that with

1543
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 3: hardaway plays. He's scoring anyway, I mean not the ball

1544
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 3: handling and the steady hand that Jalen Brunson gave him.

1545
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: But they surprised me last season. I was down at

1546
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 3: the Fortress for Game one when the Hawks smoked him

1547
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 3: by thirty, and I thought, this team isn't all that much.

1548
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 3: But Jason Kidd got whatever he wanted to play that

1549
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 3: style of just go out and just just run the

1550
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 3: other team off the court if he can.

1551
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 4: Everybody keeps bringing up Lucas coming into shape into the season.

1552
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 4: That's huge, that's awesome, probably will be. But what if

1553
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 4: the opposite's true. What if it's like he played too

1554
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 4: much basketball during the summer, the worklold was too heavy

1555
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 4: for him, and you know, it picks up a dumb

1556
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 4: injury or something like that. I hope that doesn't happen.

1557
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 4: But I think some of the teams in the Western

1558
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,479
Speaker 4: Conference got a lot better than they did. So that's

1559
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 4: like why I think this line is where it's at

1560
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: and why I'm just going under. And I think Brunson

1561
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 4: was that special for them, and I think they're gonna

1562
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 4: hurt there, and I don't believe in Christian would, so

1563
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 4: I'll dock him for that as well. Talk him a

1564
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 4: win or two for that as well. I think they're

1565
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 4: gonna be right right there around this line, so I'll

1566
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 4: i'll say under just under it. But a lot of

1567
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 4: that has to do with I think some of the

1568
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:57,919
Speaker 4: other teams getting better in the West.

1569
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 3: So his name should be not Christian, would be Christian

1570
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 3: lude w and elp. You know what I'm saying.

1571
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 4: We don't have to try.

1572
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 2: We don't have to all right.

1573
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 4: A couple of teams left Houston Rockets at twenty three

1574
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 4: and a half a low low lyne it's pretty well.

1575
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 4: I mean who you.

1576
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: Guys didn't care about okay, see, I don't care about

1577
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: this team.

1578
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 4: I think these teams can get better than okay see.

1579
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 3: I think sheng Gun Jabari Smith their draftier like him

1580
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 3: and Jalen Green. I think they can sort of stumble

1581
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 3: their way to twenty five wins. This team, I think

1582
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 3: if they're healthy, they've just got young guys who are

1583
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 3: going to just run and run and run and got

1584
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 3: the energy. Defensively, they won't be great, but I think

1585
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 3: they can just sort of get out and just be

1586
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 3: one of those annoying teams, you know. That's like this

1587
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 3: team just doesn't give up. They keep scrapping, they keep

1588
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 3: trying to be like, hey, we don't want to be

1589
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 3: one of those sucky teams that people think is an

1590
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 3: easy w So I think the Rockets twenty three and

1591
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 3: a half, I think they hit the over I think

1592
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 3: they I think they can get to maybe thirty.

1593
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 4: Do you think they're gonna be a fun team?

1594
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so for sure. Shoo was good to

1595
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 3: at EROI, Bosket.

1596
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 4: So Jill and Green in the final third or almost

1597
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 4: half of the season last year was pretty damn good.

1598
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 4: His consistency got up there. He was scoring like twenty

1599
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 4: one per game. But you are not so as high

1600
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 4: on the Rockets.

1601
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: No. I want to circle back to that eight player

1602
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: trade at the beginning of the show. Derek Favors is

1603
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: going to take all Shangons minutes. That sucks for them.

1604
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: The Rockets were the worst team in the NBA last

1605
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: year at twenty wins. I see a repeat. I'm a

1606
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: little bit worried about this team being good and they

1607
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: want to be bad as well. I think, okay, ce

1608
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: S talent is better overall, I don't think there's a question,

1609
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think the Rockets fall under.

1610
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 4: Okay, Trey, where do you go here?

1611
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I'm going with a barely under as well,

1612
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 2: like they'll get twenty one or twenty two wins. All

1613
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 2: of their best players are in year one or year two,

1614
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 2: and that just adds up to your team maybe being

1615
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 2: exciting and having a lot of flashes and also taking

1616
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of losses. So I'm minuskewle under.

1617
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 4: For the Rockets. Yeah yeah, who is still on their team?

1618
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 4: Chris Burke, name everybody?

1619
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1620
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 4: They got all the rookies too, because you have.

1621
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: Aric Gordon, yeah yeah, Josh Christopher yeah yeah.

1622
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 4: And then and then they like we say, because he's

1623
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 4: the third pick, but they have Easton, they got Washington Junior.

1624
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 4: Those are other two first round picks. So Tita is

1625
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 4: still there. He re signed with them, he got a

1626
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 4: deal three years, twenty two million. So I'm I look, yeah,

1627
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 4: they're not trying to win, But I'm with you. I

1628
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 4: think they like fall into like at least what twenty

1629
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 4: four wins because I think there's some teams again that

1630
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 4: are still going to be worse than them in the West.

1631
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: Stevens Satas will have them working. Yeah.

1632
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're trying to figure out like, hey, is

1633
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 4: can Porter play with Green? Like is that a back court?

1634
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1635
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 4: I mean they'll give it a go, but that's a

1636
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 4: tough one and that is why that line is so low. Okay,

1637
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 4: a few teams left Memphis Grizzlies forty nine and a half,

1638
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 4: that is it.

1639
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you gotta start well, yeah, fifty six last season,

1640
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 3: so that's a that's quite a drop off. But I

1641
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 3: think I actually I'm with the bookies on this one

1642
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 3: because you love Jackson Junior. Yes, and he's out until

1643
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 3: at least December, and he's coming back from a footing,

1644
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 3: so you know that could sort of drag out to

1645
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 3: January February potentially. Also, Jar missed the twenty two games.

1646
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 3: I know they went seventeen and five without him, but

1647
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 3: I'm just so worried that Jar has got a you know,

1648
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 3: an injury coming up because of the way that he

1649
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 3: plays and throws himself around here. But also I think

1650
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 3: we see team sometimes just catch the league by surprise.

1651
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 3: They started off bad last season, bad defensively, then all

1652
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 3: of a sudden their defense was just impenetrable. So I

1653
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 3: think this year they're going to be scouted differently. I

1654
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 3: think teams are going to come in and say, okay,

1655
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 3: you got to watch out for Memphis. They were good

1656
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 3: last season. Kyle Anderson I think is a loss for

1657
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 3: them too. I think just that steady veteran, you know,

1658
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 3: like doesn't do anything sort of super well, but he

1659
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 3: doesn't do anything bad either. fIF team good to have

1660
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 3: around there. So I just think, you know, fifty six

1661
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 3: was a real high watermark for them last season, and

1662
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 3: I think Jar's going to miss time. Jaron Jackson order

1663
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 3: took about him. They just resigned Steven Adams to a

1664
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 3: two year twenty six million or something like that. He

1665
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 3: was good for them. But I think they're actually a

1666
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 3: touch under. I think they're closer to about forty seven wins.

1667
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 4: Wow, so quite a drop off.

1668
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1669
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 3: I just think last year was a little bit sort

1670
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:05,759
Speaker 3: of inflighted than the numbers.

1671
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 4: Okay, Trey, what about you.

1672
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 1: On with Lee?

1673
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: I think they caught the league by store them a

1674
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 2: little bit last year and then played incredibly well when

1675
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: Jah went down with an injury, which you know, maybe

1676
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: teams were overlooking him a little bit at that point.

1677
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: With their MVP candidate out Jaron Jackson Junior, we don't

1678
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 2: know how much time he's gonna miss, but at least

1679
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 2: they do have Steven Adams and Brandon Clark to kind

1680
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: of fill in for their They've still got good depth.

1681
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 2: They lost some guys who played quality minutes for him

1682
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 2: last year in Anderson and Melton. So I think anywhere

1683
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: between forty eight and fifty is still a good season.

1684
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 2: If they would have won fifty games last season, we'd

1685
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: be like, what an incredible year for the Grizzlies, But

1686
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 2: they overperformed last year. I think they performed this year.

1687
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 2: Still a good season, but I'll go forty nine wins

1688
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: yours just under tests.

1689
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: I believe in the vibes. I think this team is

1690
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: going to be good again, and I don't think they're

1691
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: going anywhere. This team made the second Round last year

1692
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: because they were able to carry the season the entire

1693
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: regular season where they're surprising teams over into the postseason

1694
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: because they're damn good. Uh, So I don't I don't

1695
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: see him going anywhere. I think this this team walks

1696
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 1: into the into training camp with John Morant leading them.

1697
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: They do obviously miss a couple of the guys that

1698
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: they they they left or that left this season. I'm

1699
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: a big d melt fan d Anthony Melton, but I

1700
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: think there's lots of guys to fill in. Tys Jones

1701
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: he re signed, John Conchar he resigned. They'll be all right,

1702
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 1: Desmond Bane another year in the league. I think they'll

1703
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: be good.

1704
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I go just over. I just like get into

1705
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 4: like this, like a lot of teams here, like are

1706
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 4: the Grizzlies going to be better than the Mavericks or

1707
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 4: the Pelicans or the Nuggets? Like I mean, I feel

1708
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 4: like they're all in the same sort of tier. I

1709
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 4: guess yeah. And you know, maybe you have the Warriors

1710
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 4: clear of everybody. Maybe you have them in that same

1711
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 4: group too, but that's a big drop off. I g

1712
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 4: John Jackson Junior is important to them, no doubt, dv

1713
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 4: Is and you you were like saying how he should

1714
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 4: have been DEFENSI Player of the Year and kept banging

1715
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 4: that drum, So I can see why. You know, it's

1716
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 4: a lot of wins less than it was last year,

1717
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 4: but I'll go that's a fifty win team still. If

1718
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 4: John Moran, I think is out there with Bane with

1719
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 4: all these guys, Danny Green's in the mix.

1720
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 6: Now.

1721
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 4: God, there's a vet.

1722
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: Some Danny Green stuff that he's won the most regular

1723
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: season games over the last ten years than anybody in

1724
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: the same Wow.

1725
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 4: Okay, well then that's fifty wins for sure. Yeah, I'll

1726
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 4: go over on the on the Grizzlies, I think they

1727
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 4: still uh still hit fifty. Okay, the New Orleans Pelicans

1728
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 4: forty five and a half. Task one. You guys started

1729
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 4: on this one. Yeah, that over underline was at forty

1730
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 4: three and a half. So it's jumped. Man, a couple

1731
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 4: of games, forty five and a half for the Pelicans.

1732
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: This is the hype train. That's why it's Yeah, that

1733
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: number has jumped. Yeah, I'm riding a baby. At some point.

1734
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: Zion Willinson is gonna have a great year. He's gonna

1735
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: play seventy five to eighty games, and this is the year.

1736
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: I don't know how, but listen. His waistline is getting smaller,

1737
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: his earrings are getting bigger. See even the press conferences.

1738
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: He's confident. The muscles are looking defined and not just big.

1739
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: I think you really put in the effort into his

1740
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 1: offseason training, and I think that's going to be all

1741
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: the difference with this guy. There is an article by

1742
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: Will Guillory with the trainer. We're talking to Zion's personal trainer,

1743
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: and he basically said, yeah, he got serious for the

1744
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: first time in his career. I'm buying it. And so

1745
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: does that mean he he goes injury free? No, obviously not.

1746
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: But this is the time to be positive. So he's

1747
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: dominating the scrimmages. He looks so good right now. I

1748
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: don't want to predict an injury. That's the only thing

1749
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: I think that derails their season. If he's out there.

1750
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: This team should be closer to fifty wins than forty wins.

1751
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 4: They started three and sixteen last year. I'd forgotten about that,

1752
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 4: and then obviously turned it around, made the deadline deal

1753
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 4: for McCallum and Larry Nance, who just got an extension

1754
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 4: as well, and so did McCollum, and then they didn't

1755
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 4: really do a whole lot else. They're just like we

1756
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 4: turned it on. We were like, actually got good at

1757
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 4: both ends of the floor over the final like sixty

1758
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 4: games or so, and so we made our draft pick

1759
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 4: and Daniels and then we obviously gave Zion wins to

1760
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 4: the extension, and these other guys, and it's like, this

1761
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 4: is our team. Yeah, do you believe that they can

1762
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 4: win forty six games?

1763
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 3: Ormot, Yeah, I do. Actually last year I locked them

1764
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 3: under thirty nine. I thought this team, especially with the

1765
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 3: zionis that there's nothing there. And you mention how badly

1766
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 3: they start. They finished strong and they won a couple

1767
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 3: of games off the suns, they won in through the

1768
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 3: play in And I do think that this is the

1769
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 3: good thing about them is whatever Zion gives them right

1770
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 3: now honestly is a bonus, because he just hasn't been

1771
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 3: able to stay out there on the floor and really

1772
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 3: put together a long extended stretch. Now, I don't expect

1773
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 3: him to play eighty two games. I think they're probably

1774
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 3: going to load manage him if he's fully healthy for

1775
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 3: the whole season. If he can get to like sixty games,

1776
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 3: that'd be great for the Pelicans. So but I think

1777
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 3: even again without him brandon Ingram, we know he's probably

1778
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 3: underrated at this point. He's a very very good player.

1779
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 3: I like CJ. I like Willie Green, the coach, Herb Jones.

1780
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 3: They're defensive guy there as well, so and Valentutis was

1781
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 3: actually really good for them. Last season. So I like

1782
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 3: the Pelicans, I mean forty five and a half. I

1783
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 3: think they if they can get it together and sort

1784
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 3: of use that momentum from last season, they sort of

1785
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 3: believe in each other and they're galvanized by the end

1786
01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 3: of their season. I think they can get over that.

1787
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 3: So not boy many, maybe forty seven wins, but I'll

1788
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 3: take the over on the on the on the pals,

1789
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 3: I like.

1790
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 4: Him, Trey, Are you like griff looking?

1791
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, sexy?

1792
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that.

1793
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 4: Was the adjective that photo of looking at Zion and

1794
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 4: CJ just talking each other and he's just absolutely looking

1795
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 4: in the background. Look at this team. Yeah, you're a believer.

1796
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 2: Those shoulders, that earring come on, man, of course. Uh,

1797
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 2: who's not fired up about the Pelicans. I'm still going

1798
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 2: under forty five wins is what I'll take for them,

1799
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 2: just because I mean, they were great last year after

1800
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 2: the tough start. They basically played five hundred basketball for

1801
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 2: five months of the season. They're adding Zion in the

1802
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: best shape of his life, allegedly. We shall see how

1803
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: he actually plays. I think he's a dark horse MVP candidate,

1804
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 2: could lead the league in scoring easily. They're still going

1805
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 2: to have to do some configuring because Brandon Ingram had

1806
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 2: the ball a ton last year.

1807
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: CJ.

1808
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 2: McCollum has had the ball a ton for his entire

1809
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 2: career as well as with the Pelicans last year. Zion

1810
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 2: is a guy who's going to have the ball all

1811
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: the time as well, So there will probably be some

1812
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 2: times where the offense just looks weird and looks very

1813
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 2: much your turn in my turn. You could take some

1814
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 2: losses there. Forty five wins, though, is another almost ten

1815
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 2: wins from last year. Like Lee, you locked them in

1816
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,759
Speaker 2: at under thirty nine wins. We all think the Pelicans

1817
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 2: had a great season, but you still hit your bet.

1818
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: They only won thirty six last year. Ten more wins

1819
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: is just tough in a Western conference that looks like

1820
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 2: it's gonna be better. So give me exactly forty five.

1821
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 4: And they are playing with expectations. They seem like the

1822
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 4: buzziest team of ye of the preseason. A big part

1823
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 4: of that is Ion, like in theory playing But like

1824
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 4: I said, they sort of stand a pat this year

1825
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 4: and didn't do a whole lot else and they got

1826
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 4: a really good team. I'm with Trey, though, I'm going

1827
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 4: just under I feel like everyone's convinced like, oh, they're

1828
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 4: gonna jump to a fifty three win team, like forty

1829
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 4: five would be good. I mean that you'll you might

1830
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 4: even have great you might even have home court advantage.

1831
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 4: I guess that's we're probably a little bit out of

1832
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 4: the out of the running there.

1833
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,440
Speaker 3: It's probably only game if all of these teams.

1834
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 4: Are like everywhere from forty five to fifty two wins,

1835
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 4: that it could be very very tight. I'll go just

1836
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 4: under on the Toelkins final team, the lowest over underline

1837
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 4: in the Western Conference, the San Antonio Spurs twenty two

1838
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 4: and a half wins. That's the over underlying. What do

1839
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 4: you think? What are they doing? Are they really gonna

1840
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 4: truly just lean into tanking and go.

1841
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 3: For I'm just gonna go on. What Greg Popovich said

1842
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 3: is don't go to Vegas and bet on us. We

1843
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 3: are not in think he said to win the title.

1844
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 3: Maybe I've never seen Popovich so down on his own team,

1845
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 3: Like he wasn't even like, hey, listen, we're just gonna

1846
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 3: go out there and play hard and there's wins. He's

1847
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 3: basically saying we're not gonna He's sand bagging yet, Yeah,

1848
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 3: you think.

1849
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 4: So, yeah, yeah, there's no way I'm taking under.

1850
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and that's the thing in the NBA, even

1851
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 3: you know, the Thunder and the Rockets, a couple of

1852
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 3: teams we've talked about there. You can just pick up

1853
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 3: ten wins because teams, other teams are tanking, other teams,

1854
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 3: resting guys, you get late in the season, whatever. So

1855
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 3: twenty two and a half seams low, I think they

1856
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 3: can win twenty three. Give me twenty three.

1857
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: To hit me over.

1858
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 4: Alright, alright, what do you think. I don't only have

1859
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 4: a whole lot. You know, they did all their draft

1860
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 4: picks and they got a real be off waivers. They

1861
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 4: signed Gorgie Jang, and they sign Kelvin Johnson to the

1862
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 4: extension for your seventy four million.

1863
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 3: That's it.

1864
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 4: Can they win twenty three games or do you think

1865
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 4: it will be one of the worst teams.

1866
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: They'll definitely be one of the worst teams. They want

1867
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 1: to be one of the worst teams. That's the plans stand,

1868
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: and I think that will come true. They gave up

1869
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: de Jonte Murray in the offseason, their best player, so

1870
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: now Calvin Johnson is their best player. They want to

1871
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: be in a rebuild, and I think, yeah, I get

1872
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,440
Speaker 1: what you're saying about Pop. Yeah, doing a little sandbagging.

1873
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: I get that. He also said why do you keep

1874
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: coming back? Or he was asked why do you keep

1875
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: coming back to work? And he said the pay check man,

1876
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: Bob Pop's gonna have some one liner.

1877
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna be must way. You don't you watch

1878
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 4: all of his uh scrubs? Yeah, I remember back of

1879
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 4: his leaders sitting there watching Pop.

1880
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 3: He's lost his possible though he doesn't I.

1881
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 4: May have gained it though again, he might have it one.

1882
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 3: More Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jeff McDonald, I think it is

1883
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 3: who covers this bes. I think he likes to trade

1884
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 3: Bob's with him. But if they're not winning, they're not

1885
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 3: really compared. Maybe there's just not that same energy around

1886
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 3: it anymore.

1887
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 4: But maybe he gets wacky, maybe he leans into it.

1888
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 4: Maybe I got to give the people something to talk about. Yeah, oh,

1889
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 4: anytime Pop is your coach, Like, your team's gonna be

1890
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 4: like average defensively and sort of average even offensively with

1891
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 4: not a lot of not a ton of talent. I

1892
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 4: just they couldn't win close games last year. I killed them,

1893
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 4: so maybe that continues. Trey are you going under? Yeah? Yeah,

1894
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I think they're gonna really lean into the tinker.

1895
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the Spurs are a great team unless there's

1896
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 2: a generational big man waiting there to be drafted, in

1897
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 2: which case there is right now. So I think they

1898
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 2: you know, want Shay Gil just Alexander It returns from injury.

1899
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: I think the Spurs have the worst best player in

1900
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 2: the Western Conference. If Kelvin Johnson's your best guy, your

1901
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: team is probably not winning a ton of games, but

1902
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 2: he'll score a bunch of points. I just don't think

1903
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 2: the Spurs are gonna be any good. Okay, give me

1904
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: the under.

1905
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 4: Okay, uh so there it is all fifteen teams. Now,

1906
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 4: what I want everybody do is to lock in their

1907
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 4: three must bets. All right, but you're gonna bet your

1908
01:21:58,320 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 4: house on this.

1909
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 3: You get a start, well you're three, okay, Well Son's

1910
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 3: over fifty three and a half. Wow, yeah, unlocking them

1911
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 3: into it. I think they Yeah, they're just too good

1912
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 3: to not win fifty seven games. Okay, I'm going with

1913
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 3: the Grizzlies under forty nine and a half. I think

1914
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 3: I just feel that again. Jaron Jackson's the big question

1915
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 3: mark for me and then I've got the Wolves over

1916
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 3: forty forty eight and a half. Excuse me, Okay, I

1917
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 3: just think they have to win it. They have to

1918
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 3: be a legit. They can't be your team's like, well,

1919
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 3: let's just wait to the playoffs. No, you want them

1920
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 3: to be rolling into players with momentum. They learned from

1921
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,879
Speaker 3: last season, you know, losing to the Memphis Grizzlies. Rudy's

1922
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 3: been great, Karl Anthony Town's has got something to prove.

1923
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 3: The Wolves have to win fifty games. They must do it.

1924
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Speaker 4: Okay, So you have the Wolves over yep, you got

1925
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 4: the Suns over yep, and you're saying under on the

1926
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Speaker 4: ground and the grizz Yeah, right, task, what do you go?

1927
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Speaker 4: Three likes?

1928
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna follow a tree on that. Denver Nuggets over

1929
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 1: fifty and a half. Lock it in. The team gets

1930
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: overlooked every single year, as we saw with Joka and

1931
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 1: the MVP. Plus Denver's just good for a few wins

1932
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: the way the travel schedule works. Plus there they altitude over.

1933
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: I'm going over on the Warriors as well. The fifty

1934
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: two and a half. I think the vibes are immaculate.

1935
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: The team is a great top to bottom. They have

1936
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: a lot of young juice coming in. As I said,

1937
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: I think they should go over and I'm going under

1938
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: on the Kings. Don't like to do.

1939
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 3: Come on, I know it.

1940
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: Sucks, it sucks, but I'm going with history number one.

1941
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: Number two. I think the West is so good up top,

1942
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: there's gonna be there's gonna be a drastic falloff, you know,

1943
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: after your eight teams or whatever it is. I'm hiring

1944
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: a lot of teams. I shouldn't have picked over on

1945
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 1: the Pelicans because I'm going nine to six terms over

1946
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: versus under. That's probably the one that's gonna come back

1947
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: to bite me in the ass. But eight seven that

1948
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: makes sense. Anyways. I'm just talking to myself, so over

1949
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: on the Nuggets, over on the Warriors, and under on

1950
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 1: the Kings for myself.

1951
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Trey, I'm also over on the Nuggets. That's my

1952
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 2: lockiest lock in the game in the Western Conference. I'm

1953
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 2: also going to go locking in the Clippers under fifty

1954
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 2: two and a half wins. I just don't think that

1955
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 2: they're going to be a team that prioritizes regular season success.

1956
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 3: That's your third do it, do it man, It's over

1957
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 3: on the King.

1958
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's over on the King, you can lock it in.

1959
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: I also picked the Timberwolves to make the playoffs last

1960
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 2: year and they had the longest drought in the NBA.

1961
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: So you're welcome, Kings fans. You're going over this year.

1962
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 2: Thirty six wins, tenth seed.

1963
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 4: Wow, all right, all right, I will you're my hodor,

1964
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 4: I'll jump on your back. I'm going Kings thirty four

1965
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 4: and a half over. I believe we're getting a massive

1966
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 4: Deer and Fox season. I do, I really am. I

1967
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 4: believe he's gonna.

1968
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 3: Winning the favorites here.

1969
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, no, I've been on the King.

1970
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: Look, thirty four and a half.

1971
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 3: It's very low.

1972
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 2: It's very low, very very low.

1973
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 4: It's not asking for a while.

1974
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 3: They're going to be five hundred at like you know,

1975
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 3: the Old Star weekend, and it's like, if they're.

1976
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 4: Five hundred the Ulstro weekend, I'll be excited.

1977
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 3: That's squad fifty games, yeah, twenty five, and then you'll

1978
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 3: be like, oh, yeah, I'm living. They're going a nine

1979
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 3: game losing streak.

1980
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going that's one of my locks. I am

1981
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 4: going Kings thirty four and a half over. I'm going

1982
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 4: Warriors fifty two and a half over. I think this.

1983
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 4: I think Draymond's gonna be locked in. Actually, I think

1984
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 4: the opposite is gonna happen with this team. I think

1985
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 4: he wants to get one more big fat pay day

1986
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 4: and he's gonna like try and win another Defense Player

1987
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 4: of the Year. So I'll take the over, especially if

1988
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 4: Stephen Clay are playing. And then my third one feels

1989
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 4: like I need an under, but I'm not. I gotta

1990
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 4: go with you, guys. I'm so high on the Nuggets.

1991
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 4: I almost want to go as far as say the

1992
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 4: Nuggets are gonna be in the finals. I think it

1993
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 4: might be a you'll get you on his finals. That's

1994
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:32,759
Speaker 4: what I saw. I squint and see into the future.

1995
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 4: So I'll go three overs. Very optimistic here today. I'm

1996
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 4: going the Nuggets, the Kings, and the Warriors. But let's

1997
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 4: hear from everybody out there. Wow, we did it about

1998
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 4: an hour and a half.

1999
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad at all, And we.

2000
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 4: Had the thirty six ers to talk about off the top,

2001
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 4: what are you doing over under?

2002
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 1: On there?

2003
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 4: What's there lying heading into the NBL season? How many

2004
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 4: games do they play?

2005
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 3: Not that many? Thirty? I think that's it. I think

2006
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 3: so yeah, yeah, there's another NBL team I think playing

2007
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 3: you know, okay, see actually oh coming up? Yeah ooh

2008
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 3: because the Josh Giddy connection. Yeah yeah, because Josh Landa

2009
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 3: was in Phoenix. I don't have that was the original connection.

2010
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 4: Ohkad okay ah.

2011
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think it's the thirty six. What if

2012
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 3: we get the two games sweep, I mean, the hype

2013
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 3: in Adelaide will just be pulpable.

2014
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 4: I think if they do that, they have to be

2015
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 4: included in Silver's mid season tournament.

2016
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and maybe you relegate this promotion relegation. One of

2017
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 3: the NBA teams has to go and play in Australia,

2018
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 3: and the thirty.

2019
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 4: Six is I'll mean, weird to have a league that

2020
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 4: has the thirty six ers and the seventy six ers.

2021
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 4: Some real rough riders type stuff there the CFL. All right,

2022
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 4: so let's hear from everybody out there. You're over under locks.

2023
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 4: Drop your three favorites in the comments section below. We

2024
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 4: will be back on Wednesday here in the Classic Factory

2025
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 4: to do the Eastern Conference. We'll go through all fifteen

2026
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 4: teams and ultimately make our favorite bets when it comes

2027
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 4: to those later today, though, we got No Breaks at

2028
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 4: two pm Eastern, Trey and Graydon talking about the Singapore

2029
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 4: Yellow Flag race. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was rough.

2030
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 2: That was so dumb man, And it was like, I

2031
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 2: got a busy Sunday. I'm a guy who's got a

2032
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 2: busy say, I got a lot of places to be.

2033
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 2: So I was watching it very choppy, like I watched,

2034
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 2: you know, like ten laps in the morning, ten laps

2035
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 2: in the afternoon, ten laps in the late afternoon, ten

2036
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 2: laps a little bit later in the evening, and it

2037
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 2: was just like, is this is this a race? Is

2038
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,839
Speaker 2: this actually what's happening out there?

2039
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 4: So tune in. Yeah, Why No Breaks has its own

2040
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 4: YouTube feeds on podcast feeds, So check that out with

2041
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 4: Trey and Grade and they'll have some larfs for sure

2042
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 4: tomorrow or I should say Wednesday, Just to reiterate, very

2043
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 4: busy day Eastern conference over under Bets at ten am Eastern.

2044
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 4: Is this good? At one pm Eastern with Maddio asking

2045
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 4: the hard hitting questions and then No Bunts special late

2046
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 4: night audition on Wednesday Night, Task and Guests. Is that

2047
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 4: because the regular season wraps up on Wednesday.

2048
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: Night, it does? It does getting into the wild card

2049
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 1: play on Friday.

2050
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 4: They turn it around that quick. There's off ye yeah, wow, okay,

2051
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 4: every day in baseball, that's right, that's right.

2052
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

2053
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 1: So that's Friday, Saturday, Sunday three game sets for the while.

2054
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 1: I like that's no breaks.

2055
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 4: I like that.

2056
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 1: Okay.

2057
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:11,719
Speaker 4: So No Buns is on Wednesday night at seven pm Eastern,

2058
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 4: and then on Thursday, No Buffs, our Survivor recap podcast

2059
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 4: will be breaking down episode three of that. And then

2060
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 4: on Friday, October seventh, we're gonna release our film Session

2061
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 4: on the Redeemed Team documentary airing on Netflix. So that's

2062
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 4: something to look forward to as well. And then guess

2063
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 4: what next week season previews? Yeah, it's NBA Sicko season time.

2064
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 4: It's No Dunk season. So hit the like button, subscribe,

2065
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 4: leave us your fight Star ratings and reviews if you

2066
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,799
Speaker 4: listen to the podcast wherever you do that and share

2067
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 4: the show with your friends. All right, good stuff, guys,

2068
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 4: we'll see it back here in the Classic Factory on

2069
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 4: Wednesday morning for the Eastern conference over under Bets. Till

2070
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 4: that Clipper Bro you heard it here first.

2071
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up, love you guys, awesome.

2072
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us and remember, whenever a car race

2073
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: takes a long time, I always say it feels like

2074
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: that four hour Lamont's race. So I'll tell great news.

2075
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: Said that, Okay, you people, I'll be here.