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Speaker 1: Welcome to turning Point tonight, where we are charting the

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Speaker 1: course of America's cultural comeback. My name is job Bob.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for tuning, And we're doing things a

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Speaker 1: little bit differently because later on we're gonna bring you

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Speaker 1: Matt Walsh and Charlie Kirk in Atlanta last night conversation

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Speaker 1: that I think you're gonna love and need to hear.

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Speaker 1: So by doing things a little bit differently, we're just

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Speaker 1: gonna run through these stories as quickly as possible, but

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Speaker 1: also still have some fun with them. Here to do

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Speaker 1: that with us is Chris Hand, host of the host

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Speaker 1: of The Chris Hand Show on radio in the Nashville area. Chris,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Man, Hey, thanks for having me. This is my favorite

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. Actually, you know, we just learned this.

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Speaker 1: This show is the number one show on Real America's

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Speaker 1: Voice in this time slot. So it's a fantastic it's

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Speaker 1: a fantastic compliment. We love to say it. So to

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Speaker 1: get right into what's going on in the day, let's

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Speaker 1: play this first clip and we'll well up with tears

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Speaker 1: together and react.

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Speaker 3: And splashdown Crew nine back on Earth. Awesome splash down

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Speaker 3: good main release copy splash down.

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Speaker 4: We see main shoots cut Nick Alex Butch Sonny On

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Speaker 4: behalf of SpaceX welcome home.

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Speaker 1: Oh it just makes me feel so good, Chris, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you this. I'm so excited that Hitler was able

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Speaker 1: to save those astronauts that have been stuck in space

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Speaker 1: for the last several months, Which is what the headlines

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Speaker 1: would say if you were reading one of the lib

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Speaker 1: articles Elon Musk's SpaceX finally rescued those astronauts after being

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Speaker 1: told they couldn't during the past administration. Finally President Trump

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Speaker 1: gave him the Okay, you know, despite the political divide,

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Speaker 1: don't you think that this is something that we can

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Speaker 1: all get together on and be like this, this is cool,

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Speaker 1: this is objectively cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we should be able to come together and think

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Speaker 2: this is cool. Could you imagine if during the original

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Speaker 2: moon landing, half of the country said, well, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: my party, so I don't really like what you're doing. No,

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Speaker 2: that would never happen. And with Joe Biden, he had

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Speaker 2: But he had the opportunity to enlist Elon Musk and

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Speaker 2: do just this, save these astronauts. He chose not to.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump gets the win. Half the country is mad,

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Speaker 2: But this is an American moment. We should be able

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was awesome. I remember the first time Elon

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Speaker 1: on this. We all saw the JFK files being released.

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Speaker 1: President Trump finally released them. The media had a field

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Speaker 1: day with it. If you want some in depth deep

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Speaker 1: dive analysis, go watch Charlie Kirks Show or Steve Mannon

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Speaker 1: in much more deeply than we're about to hear. The

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Speaker 1: to release the JFK files. We have been asking for

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Speaker 2: And I would say, hey, pal, go talk to your uncle,

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing here that we can learn

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's why he's upset. Speaking of some people who

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Speaker 5: Watched this saying on my phone, I don't some of

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Speaker 6: Day two twenty five and dropping.

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Speaker 7: So and.

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Speaker 5: If you own one, if you own one, we're not

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Speaker 1: You, you know, regardless of your political ideology or political leanings,

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Speaker 1: for the economy to tank. Tim Walls also forgot that

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Speaker 1: apparently what most Americans probably who have four to one case,

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Speaker 1: probably have Tesla stock, so that's hurting them. Chris, your

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Speaker 2: My initial reaction is, weren't you just saying that federal

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Speaker 3: Go, that's a tragedy.

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Speaker 2: But when a company has over one hundred thousand employees

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Speaker 2: Because we're America first, you're America last. It is exemplified

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Speaker 1: I again like I don't root for the American people

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Speaker 1: hann thanks so much for running through those heads lines

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Speaker 1: Let's bring in our White House correspondent Monica Page Live

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Speaker 1: from the White House, Maicah. Yesterday there were some protests outside,

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Speaker 7: So as we know, President Trump spoke to Russian President

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Speaker 7: They both want peace. This moved in a pretty positive direction.

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Speaker 1: Anything else going on with the White House that we

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Speaker 1: It kind of seems like everything's kind of smooth sailing,

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Speaker 6: Matt, Welcome to Gainesville, Georgia.

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Speaker 6: soul are all kind of separate pieces. We as Christians

439
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Speaker 6: completely reject this. Through the record, we believe that the

440
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Speaker 6: body and the soul are actually really connected.

441
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Speaker 3: That's why in the.

442
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 6: Scriptures it says that our bodies will be resurrected again,

443
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Speaker 6: that our bodies actually have very physical meaning that it

444
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 6: says your body is the temple of the lords in

445
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 6: First Corinthians. That this Gnostic belief, though, is that beak

446
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 6: sense that you have a soul that is separate in

447
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 6: your body, then you can kind of be something that

448
00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 6: you physically or even independent or objectively observe that you

449
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 6: are not. So you could even be an animal. And

450
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 6: you guys laugh. I'm going to tell you a real

451
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 6: example donners Grove South High School. I think I got

452
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 6: this correct. In the middle school, the junior high in

453
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 6: the bathroom, they have accommodations for kids to be able

454
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Speaker 6: to use like kitty litter, not because the girls are

455
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 6: identifying as cats. That is an old Gnostic belief, by

456
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 6: the way of people that would say that I'm just

457
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 6: a reincarnated animal. And yeah, it's a form of paganism, Hinduism. Again,

458
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 6: this is nothing new. Again, you know what changed all this?

459
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 6: Christianity change all this. We're the first religion to come

460
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Speaker 6: through and say no, there's one God. It's Yahweh Jehovah.

461
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 6: This polytheism is a bunch of garbage. Right, So anyway, Matt,

462
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 6: can you can you risk?

463
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

464
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just want to add to that because I

465
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 4: think that one of the problems, one of the ways

466
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Speaker 4: that this narcissism took hold is is that you had

467
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 4: a lot of Christians who don't understand their own faith

468
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 4: and and don't know how to talk about it. And

469
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Speaker 4: so so for example, you'll hear and this is a

470
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Speaker 4: this is a quote you'll see I've seen circulating on

471
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 4: social media for years and years, and I think that

472
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 4: it's often falsely attributed to C. S.

473
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 3: Lewis sometimes G. K.

474
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 4: Chesterd And and the quote is something like, I don't

475
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 4: have a soul, I am a soul, I have a body.

476
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 4: That's that's the quote that you see sometimes. And this

477
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 4: is not something that that C. S Lewis would never

478
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Speaker 4: say something that stupid. Uh, because the the and and

479
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 4: this is you hear this from Christians sometimes, But no,

480
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 4: that's that's that's not correct. I it's not that you

481
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Speaker 4: are a soul and you have a body. You are

482
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Speaker 4: your body and your soul. There's a unity of the two.

483
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: You can't you can't separate the two. So we we

484
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Speaker 4: we to think of it like my body is a

485
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 4: some kind of receptacle or a vehicle. You know that

486
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 4: my soul is just kind of driving around and pulling

487
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Speaker 4: the levers inside my body.

488
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Speaker 3: That's not that's not it at all.

489
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Speaker 4: What I am, what you see, my body is who

490
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Speaker 4: I am, and my soul is in a mysterious way,

491
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 4: inextricably linked with my bides. It's part of my it's

492
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Speaker 4: part of who I am. And this is one of

493
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Speaker 4: the reasons why when we go to the transactivists and

494
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Speaker 4: now they don't like to talk about souls, even though

495
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Speaker 4: that is what they believe. As we've covered what they

496
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Speaker 4: will say though, and this is kind of their way

497
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Speaker 4: of saying soul. They'll say, well, you know, sometimes you

498
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Speaker 4: have a man that has a woman's brain, and they'll

499
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Speaker 4: start pointing to all these studies that allegedly show that

500
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Speaker 4: some men have the brains of women. And this is

501
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Speaker 4: why I'm you know, I don't really care about studies.

502
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 4: I'm not a big fan of studies most of the time.

503
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 4: I know, we want to sound like we're smart, and

504
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Speaker 4: so somebody brings up a study, we want to throw

505
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 4: another study back at them, and you get in.

506
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Speaker 3: Kind of a study food fight. Well, here's a study.

507
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Speaker 4: I think, in my opinion, ninety five percent of the

508
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 4: time when someone brings up a study, they said, well,

509
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Speaker 4: haven't you read this study? I say, no, I haven't

510
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 4: read it. I know based on what you just said

511
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 4: that it's totally bogus. I don't even need to read it.

512
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 4: I don't need to read it. Any study that claims

513
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 4: to show that a man has a woman's brain is

514
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 4: completely bogused. I don't care if this study was funded

515
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 4: with fifty million dollars, they took seventy years, they had

516
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: ten thousand people they were doesn't matter. Because what's the

517
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 4: definition of a man's brain. It is the brain that

518
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Speaker 4: is inside the head of a man. That is by definition,

519
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Speaker 4: a man's brain.

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Speaker 6: And so Matt to kind of further go into this though,

521
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Speaker 6: and ask a very obvious quest question. We are able

522
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 6: to isolate them now with humor and wit, and honestly,

523
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 6: I think good hearted ridicule because these kids that they

524
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 6: when they go after kids, they should be ridiculed. You

525
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 6: do not go after the children of a society without pushback.

526
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 6: Christ said, it's better for them to have a millstone

527
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 6: hung around their neck and thrown into the thrown into

528
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 6: the lake, see, than to go after the least to

529
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 6: these and so they should be ridiculed. But Matt, I

530
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 6: want you to I want you to go deeper into

531
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Speaker 6: something that you said. How is it that this movement

532
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 6: that is so philosophically and spiritually dark, that is so

533
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 6: obviously easy to refute with a sentence like yours, that

534
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 6: one that the majority of the country is now moving against.

535
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 6: How did they get so deep in our institutions?

536
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: Man?

537
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 6: How did they advance so far into into our territory?

538
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 6: Because now we have to go through what is going

539
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 6: to be everybody probably a ten to fifteen year project

540
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 6: of an extra to kick these individuals from How did

541
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 6: this happen?

542
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: Matt?

543
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 6: Was is it as simple as what we were just

544
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 6: asleep at the wheel? Or is it something more than that?

545
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 4: I wish so that I could say we were asleep

546
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: at wheel, because if you fall asleep at the wheel,

547
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 4: it's it's not necessarily your fault. That's something that happens accidentally.

548
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 4: I think it's worse than that. I think it was

549
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 4: a deliberate choice, deliberate it was a surrender, It was

550
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 4: a deliberate it was a waving the white flag. And

551
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 4: So to answer your question and to bring it to

552
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Speaker 4: kind of the point of this great event that I think,

553
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 4: I mean, there are a lot of answers to the

554
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: question of how it got this deepen in institutions, But

555
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 4: to me, the number one answer is that there is

556
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: one institution that is supposed to be there as the

557
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 4: vanguard against this kind of evil, and that institution refused

558
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: to do its job, and that is the Church. Now

559
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: I can again think back to twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen,

560
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, being out there kind of in the

561
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: field on this issue, fighting this issue out, whether it's

562
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: going to school board meetings or holding rallies or doing

563
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: anything for me, it's making a movie, just using whatever

564
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 4: resources are at were at my disposal to fight back.

565
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: And I would look to the left of me and

566
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Speaker 4: look to the right of me. And what I noticed

567
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 4: is that I noticed what was missing, which is that

568
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: there were not a lot of Christian leaders standing there

569
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 4: beside me. I was more likely to look over to

570
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 4: my side and see a liberal feminist standing with me

571
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: on this issue than a Christian pastor. And not only that,

572
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 4: but it was in fact worse that. Very often, if

573
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 4: a Christian pastor were to say anything to me or

574
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 4: about me in relation to this issue, it was to

575
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: condemn me for being too rude, for being too mean.

576
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: You know.

577
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 4: They didn't like the way that I approached it, and

578
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 4: my answer to them was always, Okay, you don't like

579
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 4: my approach, what's your alternative, because your approach is nothing.

580
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 4: Your approach is to say nothing at all. And I

581
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: agree with something you said Charlie earlier about you know,

582
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Speaker 4: we talked about the woke churches that have the rainbow

583
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 4: flags and everything outside, and that's a big problem.

584
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: That is an issue.

585
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: That's not the biggest problem. Like those churches, they're not churches.

586
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: They don't count. I don't even that's not real. You know,

587
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 4: if you if you have a rainbow in your church,

588
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 4: it better be a part of some arc display.

589
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: That references Noah's Ark.

590
00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: Because the rainbow flag is anathema, it is heresy. And

591
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 4: any church that flies it is not a church.

592
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: It is you know, this is a it is it

593
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: is a or I.

594
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: Should say it's a church, but not for the Christian religion.

595
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: For the LGBT cult is what it is. So so

596
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: there's that, so like there's those kinds of churches and

597
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 4: they're not that's not real. Those are not real Christian churches.

598
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 4: The bigger problem has been for a long time the

599
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 4: kind of milk toast lukewarm. I don't really want to

600
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: get involved. And so you sit in these churches and

601
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: you're not gonna hear anything necessarily objectionable. You're not gonna

602
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: hear anything said that's wrong. Everything said is maybe true,

603
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 4: but it's what's not being said. And you know, to

604
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: reference something that C. S. Lewis actually talked about, I

605
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: think in in in screw Tape Letters. He talks about

606
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: it in multiple works of his how you know the

607
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: the we're on a spiritual battle ground.

608
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: We're on a spiritual battlefield.

609
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 4: And when you go to church, you've got your These

610
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: are your your soldiers, right are who are coming in

611
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: after being out of the battlefield for the last six days,

612
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: and they're bruised and they're broken and they're beaten, and

613
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: this is where they're supposed to hear their marching orders.

614
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 4: This is like, let's regroup, let's let's talk about our

615
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 4: battle plan.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's what it should feel like when you're in church.

617
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 4: And so often, at least in my experience, and I've

618
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: been going to church for thirty eight years, so often

619
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like that.

620
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: It feels like.

621
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Speaker 4: Maybe a meeting with the HR representative at a Fortune

622
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: five hundred company, or like I'm in middle school talking

623
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 4: to my guidance counselor. Again, it doesn't feel like this

624
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: is someone on the pastor. And other are exceptions to this,

625
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 4: but so often it doesn't feel like the pastor is

626
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: even living in the same reality.

627
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: As the rest of us.

628
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 4: Right, And so to go back to the trans thing,

629
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Speaker 4: This was going on for years, and I would hear

630
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 4: I'm not a pastor, I'm not a church leader, but

631
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: I would hear from these parents whose kids are being

632
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: kidnapped by this ideology. As kids are being their minds

633
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: are being stolen by this. I've heard the most, and

634
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: I know you have two Charlie. I've heard the most

635
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: gut wrenching stories from parents who have lost their kids spiritually, mentally,

636
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 4: and sometimes physically. I mean, their kids fall victim to this,

637
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 4: and two or three years later, their kids are gone.

638
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: They're dead because this this this virus, this mental virus,

639
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 4: infected their minds and killed them. And you have these

640
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 4: parents that are struggling with this for years and years,

641
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 4: and so many of them are going to churches and

642
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 4: never once hearing it even referenced.

643
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: It's like it doesn't exist.

644
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 4: And so I'm sitting in these churches, I'm thinking, are

645
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 4: do you not realize what's going on out there?

646
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: Do you not?

647
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 4: Do you not understand what these people? What us, what

648
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 4: we're going through?

649
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: What? What?

650
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: What actually matters? I mean now I'm just ran thing.

651
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 4: I could continue, but it's great, keep going. I I

652
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: I'll just say one one thing. I so just in

653
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 4: one of the most offensive just in this in this vein.

654
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: Here one of them. And I've told this story before.

655
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: One of the most offensive, uh sermons I ever heard

656
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Speaker 4: was years ago from a pastors you know, probably a

657
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 4: decent guy, but the past the sermon was about toy story,

658
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 4: the movie Toy Story if you guys are familiar, and

659
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 4: it was all about how And it was a long

660
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: sermon too, it was it was way too long.

661
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: And it went on and on and on about.

662
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 4: The movie Toy Story and all the lessons we can

663
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: learn from Toy Story, because you know, there are songs

664
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 4: and Toy Story about how we should be friends, and

665
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: so this this was kind of a sermon about the

666
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 4: value of friendship and how buzz Lightyear and Woody, you know,

667
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: they didn't like each other at first, but then they

668
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 4: learned how to be friends by the end of it.

669
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: And I'm sitting.

670
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: There and I was a young parent at the time,

671
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 4: you know, two or three kids, and thinking about all

672
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 4: the things that I and I'm very familiar with Toy Story.

673
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 4: I like the movie actually, as far as kids movies go.

674
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: But of all the things that I am worried about,

675
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 4: you know, all the things that matter to me as

676
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 4: a father, as a man, as an American, and you're

677
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 4: sitting there talking about Toy Story.

678
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the kind.

679
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 4: Of talk that I would expect a kindergarten teacher to

680
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: give to their class, their students when they're sitting on

681
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: an alphabet rug drinking apple juice, and it's that you know,

682
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: and and that's one of the worst that I've heard,

683
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 4: So it's not often that bad. But it's not the wokeness.

684
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: It's that it's just that it's nothing. That's nothing. It's

685
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 4: the sin of omission. It is the sin of silence.

686
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 6: Is that when you are silent, you're actually saying everything.

687
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 6: When you are silent, you are speaking to your congregation

688
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 6: that what you are omitting doesn't matter. And that is

689
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 6: so many pastors, unfortunately, will escape by and be like, well,

690
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 6: I don't mention the controversial stuff tonight, so therefore I

691
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 6: stay away from it. That's exactly what is wrong is

692
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 6: that you have to stand up and be counted. There

693
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 6: is no middle ground. It's either you're a yes or

694
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 6: you're a no on these very morally important issues. I

695
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 6: have two questions, and I want to go one at

696
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 6: a time. If a pastor in this audience privately, a

697
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 6: mom comes up to the pastor and says, Pastor, my

698
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 6: thirteen year old is a girl who thinks she is

699
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 6: a boy, how should a pastor in this audience deal

700
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 6: with that?

701
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 4: Well, I'll start by saying what even the left would say,

702
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: but they don't mean it, which is the way you

703
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 4: respond to that is by loving your daughter. You love her.

704
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 4: You never stop loving your child. But what that means

705
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: is that you will never surrender her to this madness.

706
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: You will just never do it.

707
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 6: You.

708
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 4: I've said before, and I've gotten in trouble with media

709
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 4: matters or whatever for saying it.

710
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 3: I'll say it again.

711
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 4: I would rather die than have any of my children

712
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: be succumbed to the trans call. I would rather be

713
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 4: dead than that. I will do anything to stop that

714
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 4: from happen.

715
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: I will.

716
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: And so that's what you do as a parent. You

717
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 4: never give into it. It doesn't they're gonna they're gonna

718
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 4: say they hate you, they're gonna scream at you, they're

719
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 4: gonna want to lock themselves in a room. That's all

720
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: part of the cult programming, and you got to go

721
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 4: through that. But you never give into it. You never

722
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: you never give into the lie that that the fact

723
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: that you've made your daughter and your child upset means

724
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: that you don't love them, or you're not loving them

725
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 4: the right way. No, in this case, the fact that

726
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 4: they're upset means that you are loving them. It means

727
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 4: that this is exactly how you should be responding and

728
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 4: on a more practical level. By the way, Uh, if

729
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: your child is actually struggling with this again and they're

730
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 4: gonna hate you for this, and that's fine, but you

731
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 4: gotta look at what their influences are.

732
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: And most likely, if you've got a thirteen.

733
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 4: Year old daughter or son who's experimenting now with this

734
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 4: idea that he's trapped in the wrong body, almost certainly

735
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 4: he's got the smartphone and he's on social media.

736
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: Take the phone away.

737
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 4: Okay, it's not just oh we're gonna we're gonna limit

738
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 4: the amount of time you spend on it. Take it away.

739
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: I got six kids. None of my kids have this

740
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 4: technology we have. We have one My wife and I

741
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: have phones. We have one other screen in the house.

742
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 4: It is our family TV. That's in a public area.

743
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 3: In the house.

744
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 4: There's no doors. We don't have any screens for kids

745
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: in a room where a door can be shut. We

746
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 4: don't have that. So you can watch TV. We're gonna

747
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 4: know exactly what you're watching, and it's gonna be in

748
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 4: a place where we can hear it anywhere in the

749
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: house where we go, So you can't even change the

750
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 4: channel and try to sneak something past us. And certainly

751
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: we are not giving them unfettered access to the internet,

752
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 4: and so take that away from your child, look at

753
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 4: who their friend groups.

754
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 3: Are, and hopefully that will be enough.

755
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 4: And then you might have to resort to even extreme

756
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: measures or measures that might seem extreme. If they're in

757
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: public school, you might have to think about do we

758
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 4: have to pull them out of school? We have to homeschool.

759
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 4: It sounds crazy and unworkable. It's not I do it,

760
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 4: You can do it. You're just doing anything that is

761
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 4: necessary to protect them from this madness.

762
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Speaker 6: And I'll add to that every pastor here, I encourage

763
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 6: you to buy doctor Miriam Grossman's book Lost in TransNation.

764
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 6: She's an actual clinician. She's not just a theoretical thinker

765
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 6: about this. She deals and treats kids with gender dysphoria.

766
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: Understand.

767
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 6: Up until recently, we had a whole treatment protocol for this,

768
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 6: which was very simple. It's called watchful waiting. We believe

769
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 6: that puberty was the solution, not the problem. And usually

770
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 6: kids usually like ninety nine percent of the time, they

771
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 6: grow out of this thing and understand this. Here's some

772
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 6: facts about transgender ideology. When it comes to young people,

773
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 6: seventy five percent are girls seventy five percent. Why does

774
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 6: that matter? Well, girls are far more likely to get

775
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 6: involved in social contagions, whether it be cutting puss, whether

776
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 6: it be dressing, to be able to accommodate their peers

777
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 6: social stigmas. They're far more likely to be pressured by

778
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 6: clicks or social stigmas. Young ladies are in a very

779
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 6: difficult time of their life at twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old,

780
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 6: and the trans ideology swoops into them.

781
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 3: Fact number two.

782
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 6: There's almost Matt would know this even better than I would.

783
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 6: But according to doctor Mirin Grossman, she's almost never seen

784
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 6: a case of a kid that falls victim of transcender

785
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 6: ideology that does not also have autism or other underlying

786
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 6: neurodivergent type disorders. This is very important everybody. So if

787
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 6: you have a kid with autism, it's a higher likelihood

788
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 6: that they're going to be able to fall victim to

789
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 6: the transgender social contagent. What are we getting at before

790
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 6: I continue the next point? It shows that it's actually

791
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 6: not something within them. This is an ex externally received

792
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 6: communicable mind virus that kids catch through a screen. They

793
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 6: catch through a teacher. It's not something in them they've

794
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 6: always had. It's something they get like COVID, but it's

795
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 6: far more dangerous and deadly than COVID. For our nation's

796
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 6: youth number three, which is very important, which I can

797
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 6: if you are a pastor, you need to get on

798
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 6: your hands and knees and pull every possible thing to

799
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 6: prevent a parent from sending that kid to a medical doctor.

800
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 6: I don't care if it's been their pediatrician since they

801
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 6: were six months old. I ninety nine percent of them

802
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 6: are being trained in bad medieval witchery, witchcraft science that

803
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 6: says that they should go on hormone blockers. They could

804
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 6: be the best meaning kids possible. The guidelines of the

805
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 6: American Pediatric Association will will take your breath, am I

806
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 6: Right on this, Matt, it will take your breath away

807
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 6: because the mom will say, oh, well, you know, my

808
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 6: daughter's thirteen, but we're gonna go see our pediatrician. She

809
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 6: has a whole plan. The goal will be hormone blockers

810
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 6: and a psychiatrist, and a psychiatrist immediately say lupron intervention, surgery.

811
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 6: Eventually no breast by the age of sixteen. Not an exaggeration.

812
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 6: And that mediatrician is schooled to believe that it is

813
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 6: a body disorder when it is a brain disorder. The

814
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 6: final point I'll make is this is that that first interaction.

815
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 6: Doctor mir Engrossman crushes it in her book. That first

816
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 6: interaction means so much. You need to tell the parent this,

817
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 6: that you need to ask your daughter. It's most likely

818
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 6: a daughter a ton of questions. Really, where'd you hear

819
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 6: about this? When'd you start thinking that? Be infinitely curious

820
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 6: about the condition. The more curious you are about the condition,

821
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, all the defenses start to go down.

822
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 6: It's very tempting to be hostile to a kid who

823
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 6: thinks they're trans, but curiosity, all of a sudden, it

824
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 6: feels okay, you're loving them, you're learning. Oh, really, are

825
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 6: any of your friends thinking that way? We have learned

826
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 6: the same way that we have outbreaks of certain diseases.

827
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 6: We see clusters of transgenderism in the Pittsburgh Greater Area.

828
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 6: We saw it where like half of the girls and

829
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 6: when middle school all of a sudden became trans. And

830
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 6: guess what, all the psychiatrists were affirming it because you

831
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 6: can't challenge it, Matt, Yeah, and.

832
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 4: The only and one thing, and doctor Mirion Grossman is

833
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 4: absolutely fantastic and she's also in our film What Is

834
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: a Woman. The one thing I would add to that

835
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: is before you also have to think about before you

836
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 4: get to that point where your daughter comes to you

837
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 4: at the age of thirteen and says, I think I'm

838
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:18,479
Speaker 4: a boy.

839
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: How do we avoid getting.

840
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: To that point, because there's the question of what do

841
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: you do when that happens? And Mirin Grossman has a

842
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: great lot of great advice on that. Do you how

843
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 4: do we stop that from happening if we can, And

844
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: we've already gone over some of it. Some of it

845
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 4: is pretty simple, though difficult, taking away the phones, taking

846
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 4: away these influences, but at kind of a deeper level,

847
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 4: and you won't be able to do this perfectly. But

848
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 4: you want your children to stay attached to you. And

849
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 4: I know we use that word attached and it sounds

850
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 4: like I'm saying, oh, you want to be a helicopter parent.

851
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 4: You don't want your kids to be able to, you know,

852
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 4: function in the world. That's not what I'm saying. They

853
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 4: you want to keep that attachment, that bond with your

854
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 4: child so that they're orienting themselves to the world based

855
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 4: on you.

856
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: So they're looking at you as the adult.

857
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 4: As the parent, to figure out how they're supposed to

858
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 4: operate in the world.

859
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: And that used to be kind of a given.

860
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 4: I mean, for most of human history, children would orient

861
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 4: themselves to the world by looking at their parents and

862
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 4: then also looking at their grandparents, looking at their elders,

863
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 4: and that's how they figure out how to just be

864
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 4: in the world, how to be a person, how to

865
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 4: be an adult, how to be a man or a woman.

866
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: And what ends up happening in the era of public

867
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 4: school and especially now with social media, is that this

868
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: that bond is severed, and it's severed sometimes very very early,

869
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 4: and the kids start orienting themselves to the world by

870
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 4: looking at their peers. And when that happens now it's

871
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 4: like they don't care what the parent thinks anymore.

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Speaker 3: Now that it's.

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Speaker 4: They they don't want to hear from the parent. They

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Speaker 4: hate their parents. And we take that for granted, we say, oh,

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Speaker 4: it's a teenage phase. They just they hate their pay.

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Speaker 4: Every teenager goes through this. No, it's it's a phase

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Speaker 4: now in modern society. It was not a phase back

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Speaker 4: in eighteen thirty two. It was not taken for granted

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Speaker 4: that your fourteen year old daughter would hate you and.

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Speaker 3: Want nothing to do with you.

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Speaker 4: It happens now because our kids are living in a

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Speaker 4: culture that does everything it can to rip them away

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Speaker 4: from their parents and from the elders who love them

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Speaker 4: and know them and care for them, and to put

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Speaker 4: them into this confusing environment where they're they're learning about

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Speaker 4: the world by looking to each other, looking to other

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Speaker 4: people who are also confused, and so then they're just

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Speaker 4: going around in circles, following each other. And so to

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Speaker 4: whatever extent possible, you know, to keep that bond with

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Speaker 4: your kid, to keep them orienting based you know, based

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Speaker 4: on you, I think is a is a big, a

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Speaker 4: big way to do it.

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Speaker 6: So we're over time. I do want to get a

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Speaker 6: chance for one or two questions. I think we have

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Speaker 6: the ability to do that, and just so let's make

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Speaker 6: it good. And then I know Jensen's coming up and

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Speaker 6: it's going to close out the night as we are

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Speaker 6: bringing up the mics. I want to remind you guys,

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Speaker 6: and I didn't do this in my opening speech. I

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Speaker 6: know Lucas mentioned it. We here at TPUSA Faith are

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Speaker 6: not going to ask you guys for anything except for

902
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Speaker 6: one thing. We're not going to ask you guys for money.

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Speaker 6: We're not going to ask you for any of that.

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Speaker 6: We are here to help you guys with a buffet

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Speaker 6: line of options of things you guys can bring back

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Speaker 6: to your church from guest speakers, Freedom Night in America,

907
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Speaker 6: Biblical citizenship where you guys can be equipped and actually

908
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Speaker 6: speak out on these issues. If you have questions, Hey Charlie,

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Speaker 6: how do I speak out on transgenderism? Do you have

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Speaker 6: a good model sermon to talk about biblical approach to borders?

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00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 6: How do I think about the deportation issue from a

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Speaker 6: biblical perspective. We are here to help you to make

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Speaker 6: it a no excuse strategy so you could be the

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Speaker 6: best possible pastor that you need to be with the

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Speaker 6: congregation that you are tasked to oversee. And so Lucas

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Speaker 6: and the whole team are here to help and bless

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Speaker 6: you guys,