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Speaker 1: with our radio. This is a special special episode. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I can tell that you, uh you really excited this

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Speaker 1: I mean I meant a lot for me too, because

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Speaker 1: I think it was my opportunity to change my storyline,

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Speaker 1: um like, to get away from the caricature that was

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Speaker 1: was like all I was was crying dramatic, uh starting

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Speaker 1: interesting because uh, I don't know if it's gonna make air.

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Speaker 1: But when you had me crying there at the picnic

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Speaker 1: two and a half years and I've never seen you

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Speaker 1: Eric Bigger, Welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me, guys. How you doing it? We're good? How

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Speaker 1: are you doing? Oh man, I'm just about to walk

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Speaker 1: That's right. You told me you're going to be out

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Speaker 1: east again. Well, um, Eric, tell us about what Bachelor

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Speaker 1: Winter Games meant to you, and like what kind of

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Speaker 1: going into this, I mean a Bachelor one of the games.

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Speaker 1: It was just something new, something different. Um. I kind

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Speaker 1: My attention was just to be open, have fun people.

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Speaker 1: You just mentioned you were going into a workout class

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Speaker 1: right now you are Mr Fitness. Did that have that

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Speaker 1: that you're a competitive sports guy. Yeah, honestly, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Uh will make some other people sore right now? Well, manute,

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Speaker 1: talk about a weird like the world's most awkward date ever. Uh, well,

425
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: will you be kissing? It was like it was yeah.

426
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: So we toured the Guinness um World Record Museum on

427
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: Hollywood Boulevard in l A. And I had no idea

428
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: that after this we were going to break our own record,

429
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: which was essentially the world's longest on screen kiss. And

430
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: I think at the time the longest screen kiss was

431
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: back from the Citties and it was like, I don't know,

432
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: maybe two minutes, so we had to beat that. But

433
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: what they didn't show is that our lips essentially couldn't

434
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: separate during this whole ordeal. But we were trying to

435
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 1: make it fun and and our lips didn't separate at

436
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: one point, and so we had to start all the

437
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: way over. And I think it lasts like some ungodly

438
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: like four minutes what seemed like an eternity, but I

439
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: have now have a world record to prove for it.

440
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: So Pepper, I was gonna say, this is the precursor

441
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: date to the Hot Peppers, and that was the world

442
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: honest kiss. Oh, that was the worlds hottest kiss. That's right,

443
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: that's right. Well, I thought I had the world's hottest

444
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 1: kiss ones, but it wasn't documented. Again, speaking speaking of kisses, Leslie,

445
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: are you kissing anyone on this season? Uh? Yeah, Yeah.

446
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: I looked back on the season and I think I

447
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: kissed too much on camera. I was I'm like, what

448
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: am I doing? Um? So it should be it should

449
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: be really interesting for everybody involved. I thought you guys

450
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: had the first kiss of the season. Did not know

451
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: that there was actually a kiss on Night one? Can

452
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: we say it was? I can't say who it was from,

453
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: but it was usam Usa had the first kiss, and

454
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: then I think with you t mus they had another kiss. Um. Yeah,

455
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, started making out early on. Yeah, sure, sure was. Hey, hey, Leslie,

456
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: I have a really close to worried about that. Uh

457
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: uh yeah. So I actually had a front row seat

458
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: at Leslie's first day. I was sitting beside literally the

459
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: person she was kissing. They're kind of hanging out the

460
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: good old evening on the couch, and all of a sudden,

461
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: I look over and I quickly realized that I was

462
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: no longer welcomed to the conversation on the conversation no

463
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: longer existed. They were making out, and I was just

464
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 1: sitting awkwardly close staring. Well. The weird thing about all

465
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: this has been I don't think you were the only

466
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: one there. I mean, there are a lot of people

467
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,719
Speaker 1: in the room and and so yeah, we'll see how

468
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: it plays out on screen. I'm a little nervous. You

469
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: guys are playing a game when your first kiss came about?

470
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: Were you not what was this game? And it was

471
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: a wild night. I had gone to bed early. I

472
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: was emotional and exhausted. I went to bed, I missed

473
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: all the festivities. Tell us what was the scene? Was like, yeah,

474
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: I can we talk about something real quickly because I

475
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: feel like you said you were emotionally exhausted, and I

476
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: I never once you shed a tear? What when we

477
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: were when we were calling Bastard on our games? That

478
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: was because I cried right before I went to bed,

479
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: and then you were really distracted that night too, And

480
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: that was the only time I cried. Okay, okay, because

481
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: these proms, you know, I see these promos for Baster

482
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: Winter Games, and here you are shedding some tears, and

483
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I never saw her study singles here.

484
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: I did, definitely. Yeah, that was with Ben. I was

485
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: like all up in his shoulder definition of cry on

486
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: his shoulder, Leslie, I'm really interested. Okay, So I know

487
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: in the past you you've never done Paradise. You've you've

488
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: been I don't know how to stay that a hot

489
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: commodity in the Bastard franchise for a while. Um, you know,

490
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: obviously you're a catch. We all agree to that. I

491
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: think actually would definitely agree to that. You've never done Paradise,

492
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: but you chose to do win our Games, and I'm

493
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: very interested. Why. That's a great question, Ben, I'm glad

494
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: you asked, because I don't think Paradise is ever on

495
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: my radar because for me just it's just you know,

496
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: bringing on the beach all day, which is there's nothing

497
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: wrong with that. But I loved the aspect of Bachelor

498
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: Winter Games because it's a brand new show and it

499
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: brought people from all over the world together. All all

500
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: that's the franchises from Bashela Australia, Bachelor in New Zealand,

501
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: Bachelor Sweden, Bachelor of Germany and that, Um, that really

502
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: spoke to me because it's it's almost like it brought

503
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: my two worlds together, traveling people from all over the world,

504
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: and my favorite reality TV show ever, So it was

505
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: kind of a no brainer. It was just like brand

506
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: new show, people from all over the world living in

507
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: one house in Vermont together. What could possibly go wrong

508
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: working on Capitol Hill back when you're on Shawn season

509
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: and now you're a travel blogger and you're super successful

510
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: at it. Your pictures on Instagram are amazing. Where can

511
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: people follow you and see all your adventures? Oh thinks

512
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: as Um? Yeah, my my Instagram is my name Leslie

513
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: and Murphy, and my blog is called The row Less

514
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: Travels and it's less with one s. Um. It's so funny.

515
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: I have obviously it's a takeoff Robert Frost poem. Um,

516
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: and obviously my name is Leslie, so it's less fun s.

517
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: But I've had some people email me and say there's

518
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: a type of in the name of my blog, which

519
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: I find hilarious. But yeah, dot com it's funny. I

520
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: feel like I could talk to you forever. I still

521
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: have a couple more questions. Um, you were you're just

522
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: athletically inclined, you know, that's just like your thing. You

523
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: can even look at you and you're like, oh, that

524
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: girl's good at sports. She was like the hot soccer

525
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: player in high school that all the guys, it's just

526
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: like you were, Like you're like Blake Lively in traveling pants,

527
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: like your blonde hair just swinging back and forth as

528
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: you kick a soccer ball. You're really making my day. No,

529
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: you are, you know you are? Um, what was your

530
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: favorite competition we did? And? Uh, yeah, competition not usually

531
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: uhad on Twitter. Sometimes like when she actually says this,

532
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: she actually means it because sometimes you know, we can

533
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: really be brutal. So Leslie just take this for what

534
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: it's worth. Actually really loves you and thinks you're Oh

535
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: my god, I'm never going to be able. I love you,

536
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: asked me. I think the same. I think the same

537
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: of you. Anyway, let's go back to sports. Okay, my

538
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: favorite competition of Nastro winning games. This is tough, um,

539
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: but I feel like I've got to say, uh the

540
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: end where we did a couples ice skating dance. Umice

541
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: went into that. I think we practiced for three days

542
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: straight and I just really loved my costume at the end.

543
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: I think that really helped. Um. It kind of uh

544
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: made my childhood dream come true of being this like

545
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: fancy Um cargain that popular ice skater. But I don't

546
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: think in the end, I did the best that I

547
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: could do. But that's okay. Maybe we'll edit it in

548
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: a way that makes me look super athletic and great

549
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: on figures tape. Then do you have any more questions

550
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: for you know? I I don't. I think uh. I

551
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: guess My only question before we think good bye the year, Leslie,

552
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: is are you glad you did win a game? I

553
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: had the time of my life on Winter Games. I'm

554
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: so glad I did it. I I've always loved about

555
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: the franchise, and so I'm happy to be back. I

556
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: think we'll probably end up having you come on and

557
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: talk a little more detail throughout the next couple of

558
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: weeks of it airing. So I think there's a few

559
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: things we haven't talked about, and I think a lot

560
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: of people are like, why didn't you talk about that.

561
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: It's like, let's just talk about when it's airing, looking

562
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: up to your potential engagement. Yeah, leading up to the

563
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: potential engagement. Yeah, we'll be excited about seeing how this

564
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: plays out. All right, thanks for coming on by, Okay,

565
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 1: thanks absolutely. Yeah, do you think any of the couples

566
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: that come out of Winter Games will get engaged, like

567
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: maybe not on the show, but in the future. Too

568
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: early to say that's not fun. Actually answer my question, no,

569
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: um Ben, I want your opinion. Yes, I do you

570
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: do interesting? I think? Let me elaborate. So, I think

571
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: there are some couples that come out of Winter Games

572
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: that are some of the realist couples have ever seen

573
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: come out of this tranchise, and I think there's some

574
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: absolute actual chemistry going on. I think they're I think

575
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: Winner Games allowed an environment where people can really start

576
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: to work through issues as couples and also celebrate and

577
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: have fun memories together. I think the couples that walked

578
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: out of Winter Games actually as somewhat knew each other.

579
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: Like I I can't imagine if Winner Games not allowing

580
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: the environment for people to come out possibly finding left.

581
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: So I do think you maybe I shouldn't say engagement,

582
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: but I will say there will be some very serious,

583
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: long lasting couples, uh that I would not be surprised

584
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: if they got engaged that who met at Winter Games. Okay,

585
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: now I have a quick interesting question for you, knowing

586
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: that you went through the bachelor process, which is like

587
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: literally six times as long as the Bachelor Winter Games process.

588
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Do you think that the couples that are together now

589
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: from Winter Games know each other coming off the show

590
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: better than you knew Lauren coming off your show. I

591
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: don't think so, because I really thought I knew Lauren.

592
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 1: I think I did know Lauren. I think my feelings

593
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: for Lauren were very real. I mean, honestly, there was

594
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: no moment after the Bachelor that I can I remember going,

595
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: oh crap, I don't know this girl, Like I really

596
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: really cared about her coming off the show, during the

597
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: show and moving forward. But I think maybe that I

598
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: was an anomaly to at some level. I think, just

599
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: like every Bachelor show, it's about love and it's about relationships.

600
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: And I really do mean that, and I believe that.

601
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: I think Winter Games and Paradise and all of these

602
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: side shows now offer a really good environment for couples

603
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: to me, and I'm interested here for our next guest

604
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: feels the same way we have who we like to

605
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: call no Chill on the line right now, Bibiana, are

606
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: you out there? Welcomes all the same as podcast to be.

607
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: We're just talking about do you feel like Winter Games

608
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: allowed the environment or produce the environment for people to

609
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: truly fall in love. I think it did. I agree,

610
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: I completely agree. Yeah, I do. Okay, So I just

611
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: asked to ask you this question, and I know actually

612
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: has a list of questions here that she's excited about

613
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: asking you, and I'm gonna let her get into this

614
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: and take this away, but I want to ask you

615
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: the same question. Out of the couples, and you might

616
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: be in one of these relationships, We're not gonna we're

617
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: not gonna spoil this. Out of the couples that came

618
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: out of Winter Games, do you believe there's a possibility

619
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: that one of these pups will end up engaged? Absolutely?

620
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: I agree. I completely agree with Jana. Actually, I'm telling you,

621
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: I think there's some real love going on here. Very interesting.

622
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: I now that we've talked about this, I kind of

623
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: feel like I have a better idea. Why actually do

624
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: you think it's Do you think otherwise? No? I said

625
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: it was too soon to tell, But then I threw

626
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: it back at Ben and I said, like, these couples

627
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: have now known each other as long as Ben did

628
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: during his process with Lauren. But my, my, whole the

629
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: whole debate is just the Paradise Winter Games model versus

630
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: the Bachelor Bachelor atte model, where you have eight weeks

631
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: together on that show, but it's not constant time together

632
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: like it is on the other shows. So I think

633
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: the other shows, like the spin off shows, um prepare

634
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: you better to know who you're getting engaged too. I agree,

635
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: because it's like real life, like you're living together, living,

636
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: living and not just on mantic dates all the time, right,

637
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,959
Speaker 1: Like you're seeing everyone in different elements, like you're seeing

638
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: you're seeing each other when you wake up, you're seeing

639
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: each other like through these events. Yeah, you see each

640
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: other without makeup, with ice on your face, like me

641
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: in the morning. Right, So yeah, it's like for who

642
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: they are, you know, even if you're a little bit

643
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: nervous the first few days, eventually you just become really

644
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: comfortable and it's like this one big family. So you're

645
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: getting to know each other at a very Probably I

646
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: would like to think, like what you tend to see

647
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: after six months, you're seeing within three days. I probably agree. Yeah,

648
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think this just Babyanna even

649
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: watching these relationships kind of around us and and maybe

650
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: we're a part of these Uh, we're not gonna say,

651
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: I just really felt comfortable and not awkward about the

652
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: relationships that are existing. Like I remember the relationships outside

653
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: of myself being like celebrating those while I was in

654
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: the house, because like, this is a real thing, this

655
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: is a cool thing. I'm watching my and right next

656
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: to me developed relationships that I can now celebrate, and

657
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: I think those relationships were very real. Um And so

658
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: I this is my first time doing a show outside

659
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: of the Bachelor and Bachelor I'm a big fan. I

660
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: think people should do that Paradise. I think people should

661
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: do Winter Games. If they really are trying to find somebody,

662
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: why not. This is a great example of people that

663
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: can find love. Baby, you have a date on the

664
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: first episode. Um, I know from some Little Birdie's that

665
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: it's chopped down a lot. The whole scenario is chopped

666
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: down a lot. We talked a bit about it on

667
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: when you were on our podcast on these This Almost

668
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: podcast a couple of weeks ago, and how you and

669
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: I both had interest in the same guy. I don't

670
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: know if they're going to show much of our interaction, um,

671
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: and how I was actually quite supportive of you going

672
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: on this date. Of course, I don't know if I'm

673
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: getting get in trouble. No oh no, no, You're not

674
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: gonna get in trouble. As I love you, you're so worried, Like, hey,

675
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: let's just throw it out. I'm so worried because of

676
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: my past. I know, but as your as your co host,

677
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: I will tell you that I know, and Bibiana back

678
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: me up here if you can or if you agree,

679
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: don't agree, please go for it. It's a great podcast material, Ashley.

680
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: When it comes to women, you aren't dramatic, like You're

681
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: not gonna so stop trying to protect yourself. It's good.

682
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: I just like that's just like my That's the criticism

683
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: that I get the very most is that people don't

684
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: think like I'm supportive of like other girls. And there

685
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: was just really one scenario, one scenario in the past

686
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: where it was very hard for me to be okay

687
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: with what was going on. We get it, We get it,

688
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: and tell you if there's one woman that would tell

689
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: you how they feel, it's Bibiana. Bibiana, did you feel okay,

690
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: let's just settle this now so I don't have to

691
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: hear about if the rest of the season may be honest,

692
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: did you feel supported by Ashley. Yes or no? Absolutely, Okay,

693
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: you're supportive. She really is. I don't know what I

694
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: can or can't say, but she's basically like she just like, yeah,

695
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: go on the day absolutely like she was just like,

696
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: go for it. And then two days later when we talked,

697
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: I remember telling her, like, why didn't you tell me

698
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: not to do that? Astley is incredibly supportive one of

699
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: the things that you supportive of. We gotta take a

700
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: break here because one of Ashley's favorite things. I know

701
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: this for a fact as well. And we're gonna keep

702
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: talking about this. We might not keep talking about how

703
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,959
Speaker 1: Ashley is supportive of other women. We know that's true,

704
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,400
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705
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,160
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Speaker 1: I think I'm about to sign up. I was just

730
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731
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732
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733
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Speaker 1: along wine and what happened. I'm with you, Hey, actually,

734
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: I know you have more questions. My final question from

735
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: be hones at this point is this, are you still

736
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: watching this season of The Bachelor? I am. I want

737
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: to know what are you going to watch? Winter Game?

738
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: Are you gonna watch when her game? Absolutely? Who isn't?

739
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: Who do you think she is? Then? I don't watch it.

740
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't watch any of mine. No, I don't watch

741
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: any of these this stuff I'm on. I might, I

742
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: might watch Winter Games, but I haven't seen The Bachelor.

743
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: Watch the Bachelor, right, Yeah, I haven't watched any of that. No, shot,

744
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: you didn't watch your win of the Batchel. No, we

745
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: have gone on this podcast for almost nine months and

746
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm just learning that you didn't watch your your season

747
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: of The Bachelor. If I releasedaw this early, we would

748
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: have a podcast to last actually funny enough, and I

749
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: was actually watching, so I my mistake was probably I

750
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: think one of my mistakes was not watching enough of

751
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: The Bachelor before I actually jumped onto this season. So

752
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: when you guys asked me, like what my thoughts were

753
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: on Aria as a batchelor, I really didn't have a

754
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: lot to stay because I didn't really know, so I

755
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: went back and I watched some of your season. Then

756
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: it just kind of like as a repression and you

757
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: were such a good battuet. What does that mean? I

758
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: don't even know what that means. I've always wondered what

759
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: that means when people say that. I feel like you

760
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: just knew how to navigate your conversations and even just

761
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: saying goodbye to the women, you had much more to

762
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: slay than It's almost like personal Um, I watched your

763
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: Woman's Tell All and you can just tell the women

764
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: just wanted you to really be happy, and that shows

765
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: a lot. That shows that you took the time to listen,

766
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: you navigated conversations very well throughout the date. I I

767
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: personally feel victimized that that what that? What? What do you? What?

768
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: Do you feel like I pick him up? That I

769
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: didn't get such a good bach? Hey, hey, hey, we

770
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: all have to feel that way. Here's okay, this is

771
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: what everybody said about your Women tell All. They're like,

772
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: it seems like all the girls who just didn't have

773
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: any complaints about him, they're just happy that he was happy.

774
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: You should I think I think that's changed. I mean,

775
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: here's here's the truth. And not to make this about

776
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: my season the Bachelor, but we we've touched it. I

777
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: got to know this question from the both of you now, um,

778
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: and then we moved into moor games here more. If

779
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: the women were happy for me, then I don't know

780
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: if there is happy for me now. I don't know why,

781
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's really hard for the bachelor

782
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: or bachelorette to keep any type of friendship or close

783
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: relationship or any type of relationship period, like even admiration

784
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: after the show. I mean, honestly, I would. One of

785
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: the hardest things for me coming off The Bachelor has

786
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: been the fact that I don't know if you need

787
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: these women that I really cared about, that I really

788
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,959
Speaker 1: think are great, that I really have a soft about

789
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: my heart for. I don't know if they still even

790
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: like like me as a person. And I don't know why.

791
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: Is that how you feel about your bachelor's You're just

792
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: different then, But I think you're referring to like they're

793
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: your Your girls are cookie, so they're either going to be.

794
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: I think it's as a post break up issue that

795
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: you're dealing with. I don't know, this is a post

796
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: show break a bus show issue. Okay, that makes sense,

797
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: that makes sense. I get that. Maybe on it. What

798
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: do you mean I'm different? He is, Yeah, you're just different.

799
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: Like that doesn't make me feel good? Okay a good way, No,

800
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: in a good way. Like you just you have a

801
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: different kind of presence, you have a different kind of energy.

802
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: It's really hard to have to not love you. You know,

803
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: either of these things don't work out. You're not the

804
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: guy that you're just people are drawn to you and

805
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: how this great? And then about like I can't explain that,

806
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: BENNI are just like different in a really good way.

807
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: And you know, like watching your part of like what

808
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: you went through on yourself, I'm just like, this guy

809
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: is just incredible. Um, but I can't see anybody not

810
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: we should be the best, even like well, I mean

811
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: a moment breaking up with them, everybody seemed to be

812
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: really happy with Well, I mean, this is this is

813
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: the truth. And and I cannot wait to get into

814
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: your story because Viviana, you are one of the most

815
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: captivating people we've ever had in the Backlor franchise. There's

816
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: a moment at Winter Games that you sat me down

817
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: and I have never had this happened to me. And

818
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: I told you this there, and I told you that

819
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to respond to you, because

820
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 1: at the moment I was so taken back. Viviana sat

821
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: me down at Winter Games and she just spoke like

822
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: what she said was truth into me. She sat me

823
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: down and directly talked to me and said some the

824
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: most encouraging, some of the most raw, real things to me,

825
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: like at my face, just to say it and and

826
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: beyont that moment there, I realized that there is a

827
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: depth to you, that there is just a rawness and

828
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: a genuine and authenticity to you that I've never been around.

829
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: And I think for all of us coming out of

830
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: the Winter Games, all of us when we talk say

831
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: the same thing you. I mean, you might say that, Hey,

832
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: you know I look special. You, Bibiana, I can tell

833
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: are very very special. And I think Ashley can attest

834
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: to that because she loves you so much. Um down,

835
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm blushing. I'm glad that by honest and talked to

836
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: you about that, because I think like she really was

837
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: able to articulate everything that everybody in that house is

838
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: feeling about you, and you don't sometimes see about yourself,

839
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: which we are just mind boggled by well in Winter Games.

840
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: This is the cool part about watching this back is,

841
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: you know, we see your storyline change actually where you

842
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: and your supportive of the Beanna in her pursuit of

843
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: some of you may be into, and Bibiana you vice versa.

844
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: And then for me personally, it was a big moment

845
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: of discovery. For me, I had people around me like

846
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: you actually and Bibiana speaking to me and walking me

847
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Speaker 1: through something that wasn't necessarily easy, or maybe it was

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Speaker 1: just a little too raw and too real and not

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Speaker 1: something I expected to feel or think. And that's what

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Speaker 1: Winter Games was. Winter Games is gonna be a lot

851
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Speaker 1: of fun to watch because I believe that every turn,

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Speaker 1: in every moment, there was a genuiness and an authenticity

853
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: and and almost what I want to say, a joy

854
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Speaker 1: to being in the house. But I don't think you

855
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: get a lot on these shows. Yeah, yeah, there was

856
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: no hostility. That was what was interesting. You know, we

857
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Speaker 1: kind of laughed with the first day when Chris Harrison's like,

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Speaker 1: this is a demonstration of worldwide unity and love and

859
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, cheesiest line of all Bachelor history.

860
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Speaker 1: But it actually became the truth. Um, speaking of love, Bibby,

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Speaker 1: one last question, just to get some dirt out of you. Um,

862
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Speaker 1: when you walked into that house, who were the guys

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Speaker 1: that stood out as like You're like, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: get my flirt on with them? Well, I can't say

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Speaker 1: my flirt on it my thing. But I mean I remember, um,

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Speaker 1: somebody asking me like, oh, who's somebody that stands up

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Speaker 1: to you right now? I was like, it's so soon.

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Speaker 1: But if I had to pick one, it was Ben.

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Speaker 1: H Yeah. Other things that Ben did it now well

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Speaker 1: only because like how are you supposed to how are

872
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Speaker 1: you supposed to know within just like a few hours,

873
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Speaker 1: Like how you like who stands out? But one thing

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Speaker 1: that Ben did while during the parade when all of

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Speaker 1: us were you know, it's the first time all of

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Speaker 1: us are meeting, then just went around and just introduced

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Speaker 1: himself to every single person and we're like in this

878
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Speaker 1: we're all standing, so it's like awkward to get to

879
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Speaker 1: like make it wait if they hit everyone, he found

880
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: a way and he introduced himself and he just that's

881
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: that to me is something that you can't really teach

882
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Speaker 1: people to just to know how to connect and be attentive.

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Speaker 1: So um I would say that Ben was the guy

884
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Speaker 1: who said got to be the most first thing. Yeah. Well,

885
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Speaker 1: oh Bibby, you continue to to just make me feel

886
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Speaker 1: a lot better about my stuff than every foot before

887
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Speaker 1: you and actually have this way about you. Babiana. We

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Speaker 1: love you so much. We want to have you back

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Speaker 1: on the podcast as Winter Games continues. Can you can

890
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Speaker 1: you agree to that? Can you come on? Absolutely? I

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Speaker 1: love you guys, All right, thanks babe, Sam of course

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Speaker 1: already tucked. Well, that was fob and she's fit. We're all.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask one favor of you? I don't know

933
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Speaker 1: if this is overstepping my bounds, and if it is,

934
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Speaker 1: just tell me please. Um. I have this new pet

935
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: peeve when it comes to people in the Bachelor franchise,

936
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what it is. They overuse the

937
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: word obsessed. Obsessed. Okay, obsessed? I just say obsessed? Did

938
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Speaker 1: he did just say obsessed? And I want to challenge

939
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Speaker 1: you now to see Okay, I just want to ask you,

940
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: in all and and anything that you do from here,

941
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: try not to use the word obsessed. To see it.

942
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: You're part of this crew Okay, so that is something

943
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: that I've been noticing too. I'm trying not to use

944
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: the word amazing or awesome anymore or excited. No, that's awesome, amazing.

945
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that that's overused. It's the words excited. I

946
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: don't like to say, oh, I'm so excited, because it

947
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: just between The Bachelor and the Kardashians, everything is so exciting.

948
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: It's like I'm going to go eat a burger. Oh

949
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: my god, I'm so excited. You know what. We all

950
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: have our issues. But actually, I'm just asking you as

951
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: a friend, and I'm gonna follow up with this in

952
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: the weeks to follow. Is if you feel like obsessed

953
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: is overused as well, like, oh my gosh, I'm so

954
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: obsessed with this new product. No, you're not. You're not obsessed,

955
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: And if you are, you have major issues. I'm really

956
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: passionate about it, really passionate. Yeah that's good. That's good. Hey, um, okay,

957
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: we we've briefed Winter Games. Winter Games is coming to you.

958
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: And there's a rumor one of the executive producers on

959
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: The Bachelor and Bachelor d secretly told me and I

960
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: mean this, and I know they meant this because this

961
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: was just between us, but Winter Games betweend of you listeners.

962
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: That's what you get for telling a podcast guy, secrets

963
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: of the show. Um that Winter Game is some of

964
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: the best television The Bachelor's ever produced, if not the best.

965
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: I've heard that too. I've heard it too, and not

966
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 1: from an executive. We all have different sources from people

967
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: who have already seen the press release. I agree it's

968
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: gonna be amazing. People have to watch it. It's gonna

969
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 1: be I mean, it's gonna be like you said, Astley,

970
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: what were the words that you just use? Yeah, something

971
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: like that. That's really shappy and weird and makes me

972
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: awkward to say, but it's probably It's probably true. Um,

973
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: but we gotta think all of our guests are coming

974
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 1: on the day because these these guests, including the international guests,

975
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: are the ones that make this show so great. It

976
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: was very real, very real, very raw. Real relationships are formed.

977
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: Ashley and I are both a part of it. We

978
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: cannot wait for our listeners out there to watch. Please

979
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: email us, email us any of your thoughts, questions, Um,

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00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, reviews of Winter Games at Ben and Ashley

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Speaker 1: I a i heeart media dot Com. We want to

982
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Speaker 1: then also go out and review our podcast on the

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Speaker 1: to hear if you like this podcast, because we like

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Speaker 1: doing it. We of it and thank you to our

987
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Speaker 1: guest Eric Bigger, Leslie Murphy, Bibianna, Juliana, and Claire Crawley.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening to this. The

989
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Speaker 1: Winter Game starts Tuesday, February. It's Galantine's Day. That the

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Speaker 1: Official Galantine's Day, So you guys, get some wink wine,

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Speaker 1: sweatpants on with the gal pals. Alright, we love you

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Speaker 1: so so much again. Email us at Ben Ashley at

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