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Speaker 2: Hell lo Lower Lowerllo, Welcome to the nord ve Nic Show.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host of Shooter, and it is Wednesday, which

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Speaker 2: means our dear friend Donnie Meecham is joining us. Hey, Donnie,

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Speaker 2: are you there?

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Speaker 3: Loi Low It is Wednesday, and so and so and

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Speaker 3: so Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: We had a really heavy show yesterday. It was all

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Speaker 2: Rob Ryer. Who's our lead story today? And then we're

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Speaker 2: going to move on to some other celebrity news too.

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Speaker 2: But this story, Donnie, just awful. Let's get to the news.

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Speaker 2: What time is it, my friends? It is tea time. Okay,

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Speaker 2: big story. At the top of the show, Rob Reiner

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Speaker 2: and his wife brutally murdered. It looks like it was

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Speaker 2: their son Nick that did this. All indications are pointing

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Speaker 2: to him, although we should be careful here. Anybody is

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Speaker 2: guilty until they've had a trial, so we're going to

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Speaker 2: try and keep an open mind. However, I'm told that

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Speaker 2: just two weeks ago the family had a meeting about

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Speaker 2: what to do with Nick. It was not a secret

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Speaker 2: in Hollywood that Nick was a troubled individual. In fact,

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Speaker 2: at the Conan O'Brien party the day before they were murdered.

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Speaker 2: I know somebody at that party, and when Rob and

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Speaker 2: his beautiful wife Michelle turned up with Nick, people rolled

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Speaker 2: their eyes. He's thirty two years old. It's not like

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Speaker 2: bringing your ten year old son to the party. He's

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Speaker 2: thirty two. He got invited to events because of his

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Speaker 2: mom and dad. People in Hollywood knew he was difficult,

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Speaker 2: he could be a bit of a bully, he could

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Speaker 2: have a huge ego. However, they were kind to him

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Speaker 2: because of who his daddy is. Was It feels weird

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Speaker 2: to say it was, but I think that's probably the

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Speaker 2: past tense. Now is probably the right tense. It's complicated

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Speaker 2: because you hear these stories about him having a chip

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Speaker 2: on his shoulder, that he could never really be as

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Speaker 2: successful as his dad, as his grandpa. But then, on

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Speaker 2: the other hand, was he lived in a twenty five

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Speaker 2: They paid for him to go in and out of

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Speaker 2: rehabbit here like fifteen or sixteen times. He never really

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Speaker 2: had a job. His daddy wanted to be a screenwriter,

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Speaker 2: so his dad let him write a screenplay and it

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Speaker 2: wasn't really that great. If it'd been, if he hadn't

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Speaker 2: been his son, Rob Ryder, wouldn't have produced or directed

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Speaker 2: that that film. Let's be clear about that. And so

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Speaker 2: I think my feelings, which at first were really stunned,

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Speaker 2: and now I think I'm really angry. It feels really

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Speaker 2: really like a spoilt brat, like a spoil bra He

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Speaker 2: had everything to live forward. Now, obviously we're a compassionate show.

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Speaker 2: We're kind here. I got to be compassionate to drug addiction.

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Speaker 2: It's a disease, it really is. It's not a choice.

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Speaker 2: It is a disease. I believe that. So I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to be kind here, Donnie. But it's so complicated because

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Speaker 2: this kid had everything we did not, Donna, You and

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Speaker 2: me have had to rough it. We had tough childhoods.

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Speaker 2: He did not. From the day he was born, people

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Speaker 2: And to think that we've got to this end of

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Speaker 2: it makes me sad. Also to makes me really really angry.

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Speaker 2: I met with Nick about five or six years ago.

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Speaker 2: I was in LA and he had a project that

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Speaker 2: We met at the coffee shop. And let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: contacted me on social media and said I'm writing a screenplay,

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Speaker 2: was running away from, which was his legacy, his parents,

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Speaker 2: about this story. But today I'm not so sad. Today

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Speaker 3: It's incredibly just and it sounds weird, but it's confusing.

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Speaker 3: It's what it is because and you know, also, I

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Speaker 1: It's like we you have the addiction issue. It has

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Speaker 1: They didn't murder anybody.

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Speaker 3: And so I think that it sounds sometimes it's so

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Speaker 3: there's no telling what exactly was going on in that

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Speaker 1: But there is a whole issue that you.

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Speaker 2: Rob Ryino, he was in his seventeenth a little bit.

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Speaker 2: probably you would run away, but you're not going to

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Speaker 2: It's just the scene. And to think their daughter Romany

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Speaker 2: What what does the family do now? Do they forgive him?

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Speaker 2: I still love him. It is so complicated, is so rich.

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Speaker 2: It is so disturbing that this story is going to

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be careful about how we cover it, though,

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Speaker 2: you come here for a giggle for twenty minutes, so

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Speaker 3: Speaking of tricky relationships, but I actually I saw the

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Speaker 3: photo of Madonna and Guy Ritchie awkward. Well, you know

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Speaker 3: So Madonna and Guy Richie, which you know, we're married

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Speaker 2: He was always working, so there's always costs and benefits

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Speaker 2: to all these situations. To be born as a child

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Speaker 2: an extraordinary thing. The life you live already, it's unfair.

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Speaker 2: We'll never get to live that life, Donna, you and I. However,

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Speaker 2: I don't think people change. I would imagine this is

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Speaker 2: no part of her. They didn't speak for a really,

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Speaker 2: I do wish, though, that Eddie's art opening, she didn't

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Speaker 1: She looked, and hat she looks ridiculous. She looked ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: She looked. I love you, I've always loved you, but

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Speaker 2: Chanel pants suit? It's an art? She went fishes what

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Speaker 2: we're wearing now, Donnie to do the podcast is more

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