1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. Well, you know, if I hold the 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: wheel here, or if I'm driving down the road on 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: a Tuesday, if my husband's wearing plaid socks and suspenders, 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: it seems to turn on the check engine line. That's 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: pretty much the way the description was at the counter, 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: and I went to oh boy, man, maths friend is 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: its automobile. I got myself a title and a little 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: money down to dollars with a gas on to give 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: me into town. When you spend your life walking here 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: to there, the world looks better in the rear view 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: me the car doctor. It's got to be worked. Fo 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: here's the deal. The problem becomes you're talking about something 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: that's over thirty years old. That's right, so parts availability 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: you can be at a risk. Here. Welcome to the 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor. Since 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 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Mom waves everybody can see we've got Mom 42 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: here today. Um, she just said to me during the 43 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: break between the two hours, because obviously there's the second hour. 44 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: If you're an affiliate that takes both, she said, you know, 45 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: I'm glad I named you Ron and Nany. And she says, 46 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: because if I named you hog up a nany and 47 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: it just wouldn't flow on radio. And I said, well, gee, mom, 48 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad you were thinking so many years ago that 49 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: you got the name right. At least we'd have a 50 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: radio show all these years later. So at least that's very, 51 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: very important. So she's looking at me, and when he 52 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: gets smacked. When I get outside the booth, let's go 53 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: over and talk to Let's kick the garage doors open 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: right off the bat because we've got a lot going 55 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: on this hour. Let's go over and talk to Bill 56 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: sebring Florida Dodge ram Van. Bill, Welcome to the car, doctor, sir. 57 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: How can I help? Thank you? Y You're welcome, sir. 58 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: What's going on? And I replaced the plugs in. It 59 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: started running up and I started getting out of the gas. Marriage, right, 60 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: is it mostly at idol that it runs rough? Bill? Now? Serious? 61 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: Running rough? Uh? When I'm driving it okay and we're 62 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: not coming up to light, it stops, you know, roles 63 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: down better, It smooths out a little bit. But when 64 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: I take off, it starts up again, running rough again, 65 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: now could that be the plug wires are in the 66 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: transmission well, that could be plug wires. That could be 67 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: leaky intake gasket, that could be a dropped valve seat, 68 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: which is common on these Let me let me back 69 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: up a second. Let me ask you this, what sort 70 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: of tools do you have? You have a scan tool 71 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: by chance? Um? Okay, so let's do this. This is 72 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: this is the V six is a three nine V 73 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: six right, okay? So if I had a scan tool 74 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: which would give me the ability to talk to the 75 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: computer and this this could be a broken plug wire, 76 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: this could be something real simple. And never never rule 77 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: out basics. So you know, if we want to diagnose 78 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 1: from the seat of our pants without tools, my first 79 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: question would be, you just put plugs in it. How 80 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: old is the ruck? And when was the last time 81 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: you put wires on it? Well, it play a different 82 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: motor and it four years ago and when somebody else 83 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: owned it and I bought it a year later and 84 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: uh it ran fine, Okay, four years So you know, 85 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: if we want to, if we want to shoot from 86 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: the hip, which I understand we have to sometimes the 87 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: best way if we want to if we want to 88 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: troubleshoot the wires, although at this point, if it's running rough, 89 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: it's an educated guess in that you know, we could 90 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: miss the wires with a little bit of water sometimes 91 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: a little spray bottle and just you know, does it 92 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: make it run rough? But in your case, it's already 93 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: running rough. So will you know that it's running rougher? Now? 94 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: This is a ninety nine. So one of my questions 95 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: in the back of my head is does it have 96 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: any fault codes? Is the check engine light on? Does 97 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: the check engine lightbulb light? Does it work? Yes? I 98 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: got the check engine right, I got the brake lights on. Okay, 99 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: So in other words, the check engine lights on while 100 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: you're driving this truck already okay, So step one before 101 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: this started, okay, Step one, let's scan it for codes. 102 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: Gotta do it, gotta do it all right? Uh, you 103 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: know it's there. There's there's no magic pill here. If 104 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: if you went to the hospital and and you weren't 105 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: feeling give bill, and you went into the emergency room 106 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: and you said, hey, I've got weakness in my arms. 107 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: What are they gonna do. They're gonna test everything, right, 108 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: They're not just gonna start giving you pills. So you've 109 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: you've got a symptom, the car's got a symptom. Check 110 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: engine lights on. So I'd love to know what that 111 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: fault code is. Now that being said, I'll give you 112 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: the two most common failures that I've seen to create 113 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: this condition before I let you go. Number one, if 114 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: the misfire is mostly at idol, and I'm not too 115 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: sure that it's not. Uh, If it's mostly at idol, 116 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: all right, it can be off vidal. I'd love to 117 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: have a scan tool and be able to look at 118 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: what we call i AC counts idle air control motor counts. 119 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: To put that in simple terms, think of the front 120 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: door to your house. If if the door is closed, 121 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: that's zero. If the door is wide open, that's an 122 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: IAC count of two fifty five to maintain a little 123 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: bit of airflow past that door. It might be open 124 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: to about position ten. All right. Same thing with a 125 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: car and IAC and IAC motor is like the front door. 126 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: It's it's held by the computer to open up and 127 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: create a little bit of an air leak to raise 128 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: and lower the idle speed based on load. If I 129 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: had a scan tool and I could look at IAC counts. 130 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: One of the things I'd be curious to see is 131 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: are the i AC counts greater than twenty. If they're 132 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: greater than twenty, then that's where I want to be twenty. 133 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: If there's zero and the IDOL is real rough, I 134 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: want you to take a flash light and look down 135 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: the throttle body. This is throttle body injection, and I 136 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 1: bet you're gonna see I bet you're gonna see oil 137 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the intake manifold. And that tells 138 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: me that the lower plenum gasket is leaking, and you'll 139 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: never find that by conventional means. All right, that's step one. 140 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: If the I A counts are good and you go 141 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: through ignition and the wires are good, and the injector 142 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: is good and that stuff. The next thing would be 143 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: for a shop, because I don't think you're gonna have this, 144 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: is to start doing a cylinder leak down test, pressurized 145 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: the cylinder. We're looking for air. We're listening for air 146 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: in the throttle body. The other thing that's common with 147 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: these is the exhaust valves, particularly the exhaust valves will 148 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: crack the seat in the cylinder head, creating a very 149 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: small leak and you'll get that to to to that 150 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 1: little bit of a miss that will develop into something 151 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: worse the more you drive it. So some of the 152 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: basic Yeah, this could be a leaky E g R valve, 153 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: This could be you know what, This could be a 154 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: lot of things. Those two are common. But get a 155 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: look at the check engine light and see what's going 156 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: on there. And you know, let's let's use that the diagnosed. 157 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: The car is trying to tell us something's wrong. Let's 158 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: use it to diagnosed it. Good luck to you, Bill, 159 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: and thanks for tuning in down there. See bring Florida. 160 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: Let me know if you need anything else. Let's go 161 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: and talk to Steve Almaha, Nebraska nine Camaro. Steve, Welcome 162 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? Oh man, 163 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: you have great problems to this car. Let me see, 164 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: it runs great and starts up. But there's a there's 165 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: a butt here somewhere. Um there's there's gotta be a 166 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: butt here somewhere, because I heard this car runs good, 167 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: and I know you were gonna say but so, um 168 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: so tell me that again. What's going on? Okay, it 169 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: starts up and dice, all right, start in stall. Yeah, yeah, 170 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: it starts up. You can rev it up stuff like that, 171 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: but it's still the whole eyeletan is dice. I replaced uh, 172 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: feel pump on it, and I thought that was it. No, 173 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: we had nothing to do with it. So and it's 174 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: still the same thing. Just starts up and die. The 175 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: two point injection, right, this is this is this is 176 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: throttle body injection. Yes, nothing, nothing you do will make 177 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: this car. If you if you hold your foot on 178 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: the accelerator on the gas pedal, can you hold a 179 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: fast title, will the car continue to run? Yes, yes 180 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: it will, all right, so it'll just die or as 181 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: soon as you try to let it idle, it'll die. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, 182 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: all right, any service engine, any service engine soon light on, 183 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: anything like that, all right, if you turn the key 184 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: to the on position without starting it, does the service 185 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: engine soon light up? Yes, it works in bulb check. Okay, 186 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: that's good. Um. And then Harry said something to me 187 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: that you said something about the heater core. Here's what 188 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: we did. The first my fun brought it to the 189 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: heater core is leaking. I said, okay, for right now, 190 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: we're just gonna bypass through the cart. So that's where 191 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: I did, and that's want to start to run bad? 192 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: Right after that, how did you bypass the heater corps? 193 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: I just bypassed, you know, by um taking the hose off, 194 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: and I just connect them together, uh, you know, con 195 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: thro them the floe and it was it was. It 196 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: was immediately after that. Yeah, exactly right after that it started. 197 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: It wouldn't want to start. It won't well, it'll it'll 198 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: it'll start, but it won't old. I. This is a 199 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: van F motor, right, Steve, it's uh, it's called a 200 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: GB I uh, two point injection. This is the five leader. Yes, yes, 201 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: it's a five seven right, Okay, where's the distributor? Where's 202 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: the distributor on this Steve? It's in the back of 203 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: the motor, all right. For I was spencing with that stuff. Um, 204 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: by chance, did you happened to take the distributor cap off? Um? 205 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: It doesn't need it won't need bugs of wires in newcap. Well, 206 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if when you were bypassing it with 207 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: the heater hoses. I'm wondering how much cool and spilled 208 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: and dripped onto the radiator, onto the distributor cap itself. 209 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: And I wonder how what it is inside. Um right now, 210 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: it's often and uh let me see, nothing really leaked 211 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: on that because it was basically when it came home 212 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: I made my son had water in it, and uh 213 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: so nothing really got right there. So wait, wait a minute, 214 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: you said when your son came home it had water 215 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: in it. No, yeah, he's used water because because we 216 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: looked at the heat corps before and it went bad, 217 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: and uh so we had to do it all again 218 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: over again to bypass the heat cork. And my thoughts 219 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: said was overheated. And so that's where we readed, uh 220 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: the bypass, I'll tell you getting in there because we 221 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: got the heater car already for it. But it's a 222 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: big thing for him to put the heat core in 223 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: right bad but uh give done before he goes to 224 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: school something like that. But but I just can't figure 225 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: it out. I mean, right right after that, it ran back. 226 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: You know, won't the idle? You know it won't idle. 227 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: You started up and won't idle. Okay, So I'll tell 228 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: you what, Steve, stay put, I'm running up against the clock. 229 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: Don't go away. I'll be back right after this. I'm 230 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: running any in the car. Doctor, don't go anywhere, baby, 231 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: welcome back the car doctor. Let's just jump back in 232 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: with Steve Omaha, de Braska. Anyone, Camaralz Stephen. Yeah, Steve, 233 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: you broke your car. That's my that's my conclusion. Let 234 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: me let me, let me get serious for a second. 235 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: What sort of tools do you have? Do you have 236 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: have a do you have a spark tester? Um? Well, 237 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: I check how you're gonna check it? Tell me? Uh, 238 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: just well, no, I want you to go out. I 239 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: want I want you to go down to your local 240 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: Oato Parts. There, you got a Rallyota Parts near you? Okay, 241 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: get down to get down to your local Rallyota Parts. 242 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: Tell them you want to buy a spark tester, and 243 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,599 Speaker 1: they'll have they they'll have different varieties. They'll have the 244 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: type It will look like a spark plug with a 245 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: little alligator clip attached to it. That's a that's a 246 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: fixed voltage spark tester. See if they have the adjustable 247 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: style voltage tester, which will be a It will be 248 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 1: a piece of black plastic with some lines on it 249 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: for graduations. One side will be a steady fixed post 250 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: and the other side will allow you to adjust the gap. 251 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: That's how you check for accurate spark. I want to 252 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: see what sort of spark output this car has, all final, 253 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: all right? In that car should push twenty five thirty 254 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: thou volts out of that coil, all right. If it doesn't, 255 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna start to talk about a weekend ignition system. 256 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: And what I'm suspect of is the pickup coil the 257 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: piece in the center of the distributor isn't putting out 258 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: proper signal. Do you have a digital Do you have 259 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: a digital voult homemeter? Okay, So you want to measure 260 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: to pick up coil output? All right? You want to 261 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: set your vault meter to a C and you should 262 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: see over seven hundred milli volts while cranking, all right. 263 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: If you don't have seven hundred milli vaults, if it's less, 264 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: chances are you've got a moderately weak pickup coil or 265 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: the base magnet of the distributor the pole piece is bad. 266 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: And I've seen that too back in the day, where 267 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: they would crack and they would make all kinds of 268 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: screwy problems. And the only way you're gonna find that 269 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: is pulled a distributor out, drive the pin out of 270 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: the bottom, take the shaft out and you'll see a 271 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: crack in the bottom of the magnet. Now you used 272 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: to be you used to be able to back in 273 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,239 Speaker 1: the day by that pole piece, that centerpiece of the distributor. 274 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's still available. If it is, 275 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: I would try that before I just brought a Reman distributor. 276 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: But talk to the guys at O'Reilly about that as 277 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: well and see what they've got. I'm just I'm just 278 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: kind of I just want to start with basics, that's all. 279 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: And then if you have the ability check fuel pressure. 280 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: Let's make sure fuel pressure is thirty eight pounds. You 281 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: know it's trying. It's okay, So then you're good. You're 282 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: gonna say something. Okay, you're gonna say something or was 283 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: that it? Oh no, no, I was gonna say, Um, 284 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: there is a MSD build distribut MSD ignition and okay, 285 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: if I just go take that distributor out, can I 286 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: I can just take another. I have a three or 287 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: five sitting out there was a good distributor. I just 288 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: try that and put that in there and strum to work. Yeah, 289 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: see if it runs absolutely the way I would The 290 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: way I would verify that is if you know what 291 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: car that three oh five came out of. When you're 292 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: at O'Reilly, tell him is it the same distributor five 293 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: seven to five oh to the part numbers match up? 294 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: Chances are they do, or at least it will give 295 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: you something to work from. There may be a difference. 296 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: There may be a difference because of the way the 297 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: modules were set up with different spark timing, And the 298 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: only way you're gonna know it the sure is to 299 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: plug it in and try it. Now, you could put 300 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: that other distributor in and leave the car in E 301 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: S T bypass mode, leave that brown wire with the 302 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: black trace, the pigtail that you use to set timing, 303 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: leave that unplugged, and then you'll just be running off 304 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: the distributor spark a spark at that point, just to 305 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: see what happens. All right, So but that's where I 306 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: would head. That's where I would head, all right, kiddo. 307 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: If you need me during if you need me during 308 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: the week, Steve send me an email Ron at Car 309 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: Doctor Show dot com. Will all right, brother, take good care? Um, yeah, 310 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: and listen. I'm glad the way with that in there 311 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: about the ms D that would change the whole diagnosis again, 312 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: So it's um, it's kind of tough. Hey, real quick 313 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: piece of email. Ron. I heard your respond to a 314 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: question about a vehicle that wouldn't shut off. I remember 315 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: this a couple of weeks ago. He said it was 316 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: a GM vehicle. Had a similar experience with a six 317 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: month Explorer while driving at seventy miles an hour, I 318 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: lost the entire dashboard instruments, radio is, no lights, no 319 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: turn signals, et cetera. The car seemed to be running fine, 320 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: but zero electronics. I was close to Madison, Wisconsin, drove 321 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: that and there was four dealer. Drove into service, turned 322 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: the key off, removed it, and the engine kept running. 323 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: The service advisor came over, asked me to turn the 324 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: vehicle off. I handed him the keys. Not sure, evers, sir, 325 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: reaction like that before he called over the service manager, 326 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: who also had what the heck look going on in 327 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: his eyes, and I could see. We opened up the 328 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: bat we opened up the hood, removed the battery, killed 329 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: the engine, waited thirty seconds, started the car and everything 330 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: came back. Did not lose anything, and it hasn't happened since. 331 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: That was two and a half years ago. The reboot 332 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: reboot cured it as um, something I've never seen before. 333 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? This comes to us from Michael. 334 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: You know what, Michael, you know I've seen weirder and 335 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: I think we're going to continue to see some strange 336 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: things like that. I think the Car of the Future 337 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: in a lot of cases gives us the potential where 338 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: like the desktop computer that locks up. Listen, twenty minutes 339 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: before we started the show today, one of the computers 340 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: here in my studio just dropped that just went into 341 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: a lock up. The mouse battery. I figured it out. 342 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: I ended up diagnosing that always diagnosing right. The mouse 343 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: battery was weak. I had to change the mouse battery 344 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: that put the computer because I'm using a wireless mouse. 345 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: That put the computer in lock up, and I had 346 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: to reboot it. And if I didn't do that, I 347 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to look at the call screens and 348 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: we wouldn't have a radio show today. So sometimes rebooting 349 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: the computer is the first and absolute mandatory step. Um. 350 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: I never thought I would see it come down to automobiles. 351 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: Let's go back to points and spark plugs. Zero nine 352 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: zero zero. I'm running any in the car. Doctor, I'll 353 00:18:51,920 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: be back right after this. Don't go away back on 354 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: any of the car. Doctor. Five zero nine zero zero 355 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: is the phone number. What's on your mind? Let's talk 356 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: about it and fix your car problem now once and 357 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: for all. Jim, Pleasant Plains, Illinois, two thousand and six 358 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: for super duty to fifty diesel truck. What's going on? Jim? 359 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: Jim Jim going once? Jim Jim is Jim there? Jim's gone. Oh, 360 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: then let's go over and talk to Maynard Palatine, Illinois 361 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: with some questions and comments that Jaguar about oil change interval. Maynard, 362 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: what's going on? How are you? Sir? Yes? Yeah, it's 363 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: gotta be one or the other. Like I always say, 364 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: what's what can I do for you? Sir? Bringar where? 365 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: That's what you not? Six months ago? Give my oil 366 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: change every the jab right when they see one year thousands. 367 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: But next time I was there, they don't. You don't 368 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: bring the oils really nxect honor. And I remember when 369 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: I was to my own oil change. Just sit sometimes 370 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: let us slip and run and run all of that 371 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: spot the old blood don I'm I'm just wondering how 372 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: good is the vacuum aspiration for oil change. I'm not 373 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: a fan of it. I've you know, and and part 374 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: of the thing, you know, part of the beauty of 375 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: an oil change, you know what the best oil changes, 376 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: you know. And this will sound crazy, like I get 377 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: excited about doing oil changes if I'm changing the oil 378 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: on one of my own vehicles. This is the advantage 379 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: of voting in the place. I'll put it up on 380 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: the lift. There's you know, at night, before we go home, 381 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: I'll start the oil change and then I'll lower it 382 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: down and I'll let a drip overnight. You'd be amazed. 383 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: And you have to do this as an experiment. You know, 384 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: a little the oil drain out and it gets down 385 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: to those last couple of drops, throw a drain pan 386 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: underneath it. Let it sit overnight. There's another half a 387 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: quarter of dirty oil it comes out of that engine. 388 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: And you know that that dirty oil is contamination. When 389 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: you put in the fresh oil, it mixes and dilutes 390 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: it down. Now, yeah, the argument could be made. So 391 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: what you know, over the course of the life of 392 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: the vehicle, but over the course of the life of 393 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: the vehicle, you're leaving more and more contaminant in the engine. 394 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: And in my mind, the more contaminant I get out, 395 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: the better if I am so fast Forward to your question, 396 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: vacuum oil changes. We're gonna vacuum the oil out. I 397 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: think the reason we're doing that is because either the 398 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: oil change texts are too stupid to understand how to 399 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: properly tork a drain plug and worried about stripping it, 400 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: or in the ease of speed, they're looking to make 401 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: it as simple as possible to get the most cars 402 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: through and in and out the door and you know, 403 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: make more money. Um, I don't agree to it. I 404 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: think that. I think that's ridiculous. Well, this is the 405 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: demon who does it so well. And you know what, 406 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: I'd be curious if every Jaguar dealer did at I 407 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: know some that do not. And you know, while I 408 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: understand Jaguar and some of the other high line cars 409 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: all have their little unique idiosyncrasies that makes them, you know, 410 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: the better car, but in the end, it's still an 411 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: internal combustion engine. It still needs proper care and maintenance, 412 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: and I don't think vacuuming the oil is really what 413 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: I would consider to be correct. Well, the guy said 414 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: that is still to do it that way, there's little 415 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: type that right under the star camp which the machine 416 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: I know, in the interest of better service. Um, you 417 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: know it's it's I disagree with it. I disagree with 418 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: the oil drain interval. I definitely disagree with the fifteen 419 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: thousand my oil drain interval. And you know, I just 420 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: I just don't see it, you know how us still 421 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: but they used synthetic oils. Right, let me ask you this, 422 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: how many how many miles you got on the car? Right? 423 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting to me. In all the 424 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: years I'm doing radio, I don't have anybody call me 425 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: and say, my car's got two under thousand miles on it. 426 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: I've been changing the oil every miles. They're they're fewer 427 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: and farther between, and I wonder if that means something, 428 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, just to make the point you had mentioned 429 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: that there's no right, there is no there is no one, 430 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: there's there's well, there's very few oil filters that will 431 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: go to limit. There's none that will last fifteen thousand 432 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: that I know of, all right, And what I encourage 433 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: everybody to do is to hold the dealer's feet to 434 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: the fire, which will ultimately hold the manufacturer's feet to 435 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: the fires when you go in, ask him, ask him 436 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: about the oil filter. Is it something special? Is it 437 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: the something manufacturer design that it's designed to go? That 438 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: oil change inerval. Every oil filter manufacturer that I talked 439 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: to always brings up the point that you know, of 440 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: the top of the heap. Now, Wicks does have some 441 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: oil filters that will, you know, go the furthest from 442 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: what I've seen with the studies and the results, maybe 443 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: approaching the eight nine thousand mile mark, but beyond that, no, sir, 444 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: not more than that. And I encourage you to get out. 445 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 1: I was doing some reading. I was out on their 446 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: website the other day. Get out to Wicks Filters dot 447 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: com and you'll see some of the things I was 448 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: talking about. But you know, to go fifteen thousand, No, 449 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't see it. So I thought sometimes and I'll 450 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: tell you what and then then I'm gonna go if 451 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: if the vacuum tube way of changing oil was so 452 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: wonderful and worked so well, how come everybody's not doing 453 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: it right? That's a good that's a good question. Do 454 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: you ever notice do you ever noticed how all the 455 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: cars today look alike? They all seem to look alike, 456 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: all right, they all seem to look like a hard 457 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: hat with four wheels, you know, going down the road. 458 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: How come that is? That's because everybody's accepted that style, 459 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: and what one does, the other does, and they all 460 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: become copycats. And there's nothing really new on cars today. 461 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: They've all got a B s and air bags and 462 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: fancy radios and GPS and satellite guidance and all the 463 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: rest of that nonsense. They all duplicate and emulate each other. 464 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: If vacuum change oil changes were so gosh darn great, 465 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: how come they're all not doing it? And that's the question. 466 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: Take that back to the dealer and tell him to 467 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: stick that in his pipe and smoke it. Zero nine 468 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: zero zero ron any of the car doctor coming back 469 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: right after this path, he said, son, you're gonna drive 470 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: me to drinking if you don't stop driving out hot 471 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: rod Lincoln. Have you heard the story of the hot 472 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: rod race with the Forwards and the Lincols was set 473 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: in the face? Set story is true. I'm here to 474 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: say I was dry and that model. Welcome back the 475 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: car doctor. Let's see if Jim's there this time, Pleasant Plains, Illinois. Jim, 476 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: you're there are two thousand six for Super Duty. What's 477 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: going on? I'm here? How you doing? Ron? Good sir? 478 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: How can I help you? Well? I bought a for 479 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: the Super duty OH six O six new and probably 480 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: about four years later, can you hear me? Okay? Sure? Ken? Okay? 481 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: About four years later, starting OH ten, my first caliper 482 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: locked up. Since then, I've had nine calipers locked up, 483 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: half the time polling the camper out of town and 484 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: that the other half approximately locally. When when you say 485 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: locked up, Jim, are you saying they're hydraulically locked or 486 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: they seize on the slides? They hydraulically locked up? Okay? 487 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: So in other words, if you were to if if 488 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: it's it's not a question of the caliper will move 489 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: on its pins or it's slide bushings, it's the piston 490 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: is stuck in the boar, That is correct, The piston 491 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: is stuck in the board, not the fly delub that 492 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: they're free, but the exactually locked up, okay? And then 493 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: what do you do to fix it? Just put a 494 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: caliper on, believe the system and you're done. Caliber pose 495 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: go to you know, just depends uh where I'm at. Yeah, 496 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: basically change the caliper and some of them will last 497 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: two three years. And then in the last recent time 498 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: here I lasted up. I was down in Florida and 499 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: I had to find places down there on the case. 500 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: So I just had him redo both of them at 501 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 1: the same time, because take a chance. But that one 502 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: every last of the year. So I didn't know if 503 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: you have any idea. Did you ever take one of 504 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: the old calipers apart to see what it looks like inside? 505 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: Did not? You know? I'm wondering any corrosion. I'm also 506 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: wondering about anything that looks like a galvanic reaction, uh, 507 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: any signs of electrical arcing. I'm thinking about a bad 508 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: ground issue in the vehicle, as crazy as that sounds. 509 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: I start when I get repeated metallic failure. You know, 510 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: back in the old days, Chrysler's used to go through 511 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna date myself here, Chrysler aries K cars, we 512 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: used to go through wheel bearings. When the ground strapped 513 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: between the engine and the right front motor mount fell off, 514 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: they would it would seek ground through alternate means, and 515 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: it would actually wipe out the wheel bearings on a 516 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: repetitive basis. And I just start to think about chassis, 517 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: ground engine ground Are they good and clean? You know 518 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm reaching, but I'm looking for a reason. But I would, 519 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, ask you the next time it fails. Pulled 520 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: the piston apart, take it out? Is the bore spotlessly clean? 521 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: What's in it? Is it's is it sludge? Is it? 522 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it a contaminant that you can identify? 523 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: Is it little pieces of something else? This? This is 524 00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: a hydroboot system. Correct, there's a diesel and um you 525 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: know what does the master look like? You know, have 526 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: you done a complete break fluid flush? Do you flush 527 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: the brake fluid on a regular basis? Or this is 528 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: a camper you said, I pull a camper with it. No, 529 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: it's it's the regular pickup. So you use it, so 530 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: you use it all the time? Not all the time. 531 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: That's one of the things that they've told me because 532 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: I have a work vehicle, so I don't. I've only 533 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: got sixty eight thousand miles on it. I mean to 534 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: pop back camp and drive it sparingly the rest of 535 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: the time. So what does it sit? Does it six 536 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,239 Speaker 1: six months out of the year? Oh no, never more 537 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 1: than a week? Or okay, okay, um? If this reminded 538 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: I were trying to maintain it number one, to track 539 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: the problem down, I'd be looking. I'd be looking at 540 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: the failure. What failed in there? Is it? Is it 541 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: that there's there's got to be something that's making this stick? 542 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: Is there something that looks like it's an electrical issue, 543 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: that's you know, a bad ground that it's seeking ground 544 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: through the caliper brackets and and doing it like that. 545 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: Does it look like contaminant from an outside source? Do 546 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: I have the Is this still the original master that's 547 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: on the car? Yes, the fluids been completely flushed white. 548 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: You know? Is this is this a question of that 549 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: the environment that it's in is causing moisture inside the 550 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: break fluid? You know, break fluid absorbs moisture, and it's 551 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: creating that issue. And I wonder if you went to 552 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: a silicon based break flure, you went to dot five 553 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: and dot five is a pain in the butt to bleed, 554 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: and dot five will not intermix with dot three or four, 555 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: So the system has to be completely flushed when you 556 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: make the changeover. But I wonder if a silicon break 557 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: fluid would resist moisture. Of course, you'd have to know 558 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: if that's how the caliper or why the caliper failed 559 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: in the first place, right, you know, certain, not like 560 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: maybe got calipers during that time of anything, nothing like that. 561 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: And I would venture to get that you've probably purchased 562 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: calipers from all the rebuilders out there, from A one 563 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: on down to everybody else. You know, it sounds like 564 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: you travel with this, so it sounds like you're you know, 565 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: you're not able to be choosy about where you get 566 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: them from, am I right? Yeah? Um? You know I 567 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: would hope you're buying them from at least somebody that 568 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: you've got a lifetime guarantee on them. You know, I 569 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: think a one or I think if you buy something 570 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: through a Riley Oto Parts, uh, it's got a better 571 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: guarantee on it than most You can take a look 572 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: at that and maybe that's a source, but you know 573 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: it is your right. And I do this all the time. 574 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: I get a part that fails, I will send it 575 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: back to the manufacturer and say what failed on this, 576 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: and let them do a little n C I S stuff. 577 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: Um Lets let their abbey SHOOTO go through it with 578 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: their spectrometer there and uh see what kind of contaminants 579 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: in it? And um, you know, kind of take it 580 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: apart like that, but I would think about a ground, 581 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: I would think about contamination. I would think about and 582 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: obviously the quality of the calipers is in this conversation too. 583 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: But I don't want to just blame bad parts. I'm 584 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: looking for a reason, all right. I appreciate it, all right, sir. 585 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: Let me know how you make out. I'm kind of curious. 586 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: It's um. I always like a good mystery. You're very welcome. 587 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: You take good care. Let's go over real quick and 588 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: talk to Bruce Sarasota Springs. See what's going on here? Bruce. 589 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. How can I help? Okay? Hello, run, Yes, 590 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: taking my call. You're welcome. What's going on? And i'd 591 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: just like to say, real quick, then listen to your 592 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: show a long time. Very good. Thank you for podcasting. 593 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: And it's like my winter, our classroom and automotive technology 594 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: every week. I'm glad to be here for you, buddy. 595 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you. I have an O to 596 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: Honda's c RV that's not charging. But I called you 597 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: earlier in a week. I was looking for a little 598 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: experience really with these and as I went on through 599 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: the week to look into it a little further. I 600 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: found out they had an E L D device, which 601 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: I think you're familiar with. And I'm wondering, what is 602 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: your experience round at a hundred and fifty two thousand miles? 603 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: What usually goes an alternator? Usually, I'm sorry, Usually it's 604 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: the alternator, all right? Um, Usually what happens here is 605 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: that the diagnosis is there's a black, yell low wire 606 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: at the alternator, right, Okay, you want to make sure 607 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: that that has battery voltage key on, and you want 608 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: to also make sure that the charge light lights up 609 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: with the key turned on. All right, all right? Right, 610 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: turn the key on and make sure that the charging 611 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: light is lit. All right. What happens next is the 612 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: voltage regulator will ground the white blue wire to illuminate 613 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: that charge light. So if that charge light is not lit, 614 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: that tells me you've got a problem in the voltage 615 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: regulator circuit. Okay, I can tell you this much that 616 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: the charge light does come on when I do the 617 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: light test with ignition, but once I start the vehicle, 618 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: the light will not come on. Okay. The last thing 619 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: you can do is and this is this is the 620 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: final test, if you've got power, if you've got voltage 621 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: on the black yellow all right, and you've got a 622 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: good ground between the alternator case and the engine block 623 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: and the engine block to the body, all your grounds are, 624 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: all your ducks are in a row there. Okay, The 625 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: white green wire all right, if you, if you is 626 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: connect that white green wire from the alternator circuit, the 627 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: charging system will work like any other alternator because that 628 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: the bypassing e l D right, correct, The e l 629 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: D is there so they can modify the charge rate 630 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: to achieve emissions in fuel economy and idle quality. They 631 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: won't charge as heavily based on state, the charge of 632 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: the battery and demand on the system. Okay, all right, 633 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: that's real quick question. Where do I find that harness 634 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: connector for the alternators? Is it buried down in there? 635 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's buried down in there. Okay's underneath her 636 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: from the top wherever the connector comes in. I think 637 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: that comes in from the top, if I'm not mistaken. 638 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: And that white that white red wire is just signal 639 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: return to the computer so that knows when to idle up. 640 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: That's got really nothing to do with the circuit, all right. 641 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: If you need. If you need more information, if you 642 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: need a wiring diagram or something, email Meronic Card Doctor 643 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: showed dot com. I'll send something out to you. All right, Bruce, 644 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: you take good care. Zero the Car Doctor coming back 645 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back right on any of the 646 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: Card Doctor at zero zero zero. Keep in mind you 647 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: need me during the week. You want to get in 648 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: the queue for next week's show, call eight five zero 649 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Leave a message fast, Harry. We'll call 650 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: you back and put you in the lineup for the 651 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: show that's coming up. We are live Saturdays two to 652 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: four pm out on the Affiliates as UM. We are 653 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: here each and every weekend for you. We want to 654 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: thank you for allowing us to be part of your 655 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: your radio listening experience and your podcast listening experience. I'm 656 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: very happy to be able to do this for you 657 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: all these years and answer questions and answer emails like 658 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: this one from Michael, who writes and Hey, Ron, I've 659 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: got a teen jeep Rubicon and I'm interested in tires 660 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: and I'm reading on the General Tire website about this 661 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: Grabber X three that's rumored to be coming out. What 662 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: can you tell me about it? Well, I can tell 663 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: you this, Michael. It's sort of a secret, so I 664 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: can't tell you too much. I can tell you that 665 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: the Grabber X three is going to be unearthed in 666 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: the fall, sometime in the fallen coming up. Um. There's 667 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about it about his performance in mud, 668 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: dirt and rock, and that's really what they're going for. 669 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: They're going for a real off road tire. It's supposed 670 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: to be a very big seller. And more to come in. 671 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: More information here as soon as I get it. As 672 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: soon as I'm able to talk more about it, I will. 673 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: But right now, all I can tell you is, Yes, 674 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: General Tire has a new tire coming out. It's the 675 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: Grabber X three. It's an aggressive mud terrain tire. The 676 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: three stands for extreme performance in mud, dirt and rock 677 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: and um that's about it until the next time. The 678 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive. Their prices