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Speaker 1: Levels to This is an iHeart women's sports production in

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's up, everybody, it's your girl, Serrika Foster Bradsby.

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Speaker 3: What's going on y'all? It's Shagirl Cheryl.

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Speaker 2: Swoops And this is the levels to this podcast. This

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Speaker 2: is the show where we share the there's levels to

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Speaker 2: the ship that women go through. You know, I have

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Speaker 2: done this intro by heart for the last how many months,

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Speaker 2: and yet there's always that one time, you know, what's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to attribute it to coming back from Tampa.

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Speaker 3: Because I'm gonna give you that I.

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Speaker 2: Got my Final four head on today. Voice is gone, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Just yeah, tee.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm still in Tampa for real. Like

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Speaker 1: my body is like, bag, what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Yo?

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Speaker 1: I was bad to say when I stepped off the

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Speaker 1: plane it was not going there coming home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I stayed in extra like I didn't stay in an extra

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Speaker 2: day per se. But I didn't leave immediately like I

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Speaker 2: left on Monday after the Final four was over, but

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Speaker 2: I didn't leave until seven o'clock that evening, So it

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Speaker 2: felt like an extra day and I got to walk

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Speaker 2: around and just enjoy the sun and eat some food

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Speaker 2: and chill. And I got off that plane at eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Back in Connecticut, it was every bit of twenty two

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Speaker 2: freezing degree.

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Speaker 3: I was like, fuckt go, I hat it here.

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Speaker 1: Listen, you know, like, we're never satisfied. It was ninety

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Speaker 1: degrees in Tampa. You're going back home to twenty degrees.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm in Houston, So it wasn't twenty, but it

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Speaker 1: wasn't ninety. I got home at I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: I got home at a decent hour, but it was

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Speaker 1: like in the fifties. When I got home, it was

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Speaker 1: a little chili.

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Speaker 3: It was chili. See, that's privilege. That's privilege.

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Speaker 1: When fifty chill for you, that's a privilege we all

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Speaker 1: ain't gotten. No, ma'am, No, ma'am, we're not about to

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Speaker 1: start talking about privilege.

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Speaker 2: That is a privilege that I don't have in code

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Speaker 2: as Connecticut. But speaking of Connecticut, let me give a

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Speaker 2: shout out to the University of Connecticut a winning the

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Speaker 2: national championship. Just congratulations to the Huskies.

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Speaker 3: They pushed my sound off. I love it too.

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Speaker 2: They put on a show like they did did they

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Speaker 2: took care of business, and I don't think I have

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Speaker 2: seen a more perfect display of basketball on the collegiate

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Speaker 2: level in a very long time than I did in

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Speaker 2: that game. So shout out to Aisy Fudd, who truly

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Speaker 2: was to start the show. Sarah Strong, Honey, honey, you

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Speaker 2: give me how more years of that.

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Speaker 3: Girl?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, listen, beast as Fudd deserved the most valuable

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Speaker 1: player in that game. But baby, mm hmm, Sarah Denise Strong, I.

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Speaker 3: Know that heddle name.

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Speaker 1: I just, I just it's not her middle name, but.

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Speaker 3: I save name.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna give her like Shanika or something, but

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Speaker 1: I said, now we'll just stick with something simple.

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Speaker 3: Denise.

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Speaker 1: I said this the other day, and I'm better repeat

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Speaker 1: it and say it again. Sarah Strong, as a freshman

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Speaker 1: playing in the National championship game.

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Speaker 3: Doing the things that she.

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Speaker 1: Did, you ain't supposed to be that good as a freshman,

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Speaker 1: no period, but especially in that moment, like there were

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Speaker 1: was like, y'all don't come from me, because again, there

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Speaker 1: has been some incredible talent come out of Yukon like

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Speaker 1: nobody's gonna and I that Dina Trossi, Stewie, Sue.

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Speaker 4: Swim when.

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Speaker 1: Jones all the things right, but Sarah strong when it's

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Speaker 1: because a lot of things has gotta go. Well, this

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Speaker 2: That's a strong statement, Chryl. But but you but you're

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Speaker 2: not wrong. First of all, you got a big girl

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Speaker 1: That, all that with no fear, all that, and he

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Speaker 1: And my my thing is she's only gonna get better.

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Speaker 1: That's it, on both ends of the floor.

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Speaker 4: I know why people hate Geno now, Like I get it.

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Speaker 2: Tell me because he about to have Sarah Straw for

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Speaker 2: and it was between Now you know, he gonna.

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Speaker 3: Recruit at least three or four more Fact like fact.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna see the same situation in a couple of years,

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Speaker 2: if not next year.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna see the same situation.

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Speaker 3: I get why they hate them.

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Speaker 1: The kid's good and I just had to remind some

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Speaker 1: work on stuff like we all do, right, But let's

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Speaker 1: just remind people who don't know Harmama, Alison Feaster.

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Speaker 3: Allison was a bucket herself.

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Speaker 4: Alison was a bucket, could definitely shoot the ball.

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Speaker 3: Facts.

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Speaker 1: And so that's why I'm like it ain't just because

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Speaker 3: At all at all.

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Speaker 2: They have a freshman of their own that is pretty

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Speaker 2: damn nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I.

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Speaker 1: Figured we get over there on that side in a minute.

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Speaker 1: And since you went there, then can we also talk

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Speaker 1: about Joyce Edwards.

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Speaker 2: Joyce Edwards is nice, and Joyce Edwards have been MA

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Speaker 2: for a couple of games. And then she showed up

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Speaker 2: in the semifinals against Texas and I said, okay, now

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Speaker 2: I was about to go down because Joyce then remembered

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Speaker 3: Is that part.

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Speaker 1: So you're talking about azy fuck coming back and Sarah

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Speaker 1: Strong and we know Geno gonna do what Gino does

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Speaker 3: So when we see Yukon.

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Speaker 1: Back in the final four, probably probably right say healthy

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Speaker 1: all the things. I'm gonna go on to South Carolina

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Speaker 3: You know they just got laxing in the portal.

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Speaker 4: Come on, get out there for a second, buck Cat.

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Speaker 3: Let's know, I in my head was like Dawn doing

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Speaker 2: That is why I call her the nick saving of

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Speaker 2: Don always gonna re up something stupid like bamn facts.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna just say it, is it safe

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Speaker 1: to say South Carolina gonna be back in the final four?

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Speaker 3: It's a I think so, I do think. So I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know social media and the media, all

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Speaker 1: the things, everybody's always gonna say whatever it is they're

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Speaker 1: I do believe one Like the last three final fource.

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Speaker 4: They won twenty two and they won twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Yep, it's right, they didn't. They did not win twenty three.

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Speaker 1: This would have been their third. Your correct, this would

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Speaker 1: have been their third. Thank you for that correction. But

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Speaker 1: I do want to say this, Sometimes shit just happens

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Speaker 1: and it ain't you a day or night. And the

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Speaker 1: other night was not South Carolina's night. Yukon came in

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Speaker 1: on a mission and they made sure that South Carolina

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Speaker 3: Think they had a shot to come back and win

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Speaker 1: But what I want to say is just because South

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Speaker 3: Staley ain't her that part. I've just I've read.

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Speaker 1: Some things, I've seen some things, and I'm like, y'all,

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Speaker 1: it happens to the best of us.

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Speaker 3: Like losing is a part of sports.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 1: Did they want to lose and lose like that and

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Speaker 1: go out like that? Absolutely not. Listen, don No, that's

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Speaker 1: like the last thing Don Staley wanted. But I just

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Speaker 4: Her and that ain't gonna never change, ever, ever change.

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Speaker 2: I've seen some of the comments that you may be

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Speaker 2: referring to and I just I didn't even have the

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Speaker 3: I was like, no, I'm not even gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: Didn't engage because you have lost your mind to think

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Speaker 2: that she just all the sudden is no longer.

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Speaker 3: People were comment and talking about this. What happened when

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Speaker 2: Focused on wearing outfit, No get out don business Number one? Okay,

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Speaker 2: number two, that woman is still her Okay, well, she's

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Speaker 2: accomplished in the amount of time that she's been in

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Speaker 2: this business as a head coach, specifically at South Carolina,

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Speaker 2: is crazy. And for you to even fix your mouth

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Speaker 2: Gino Oriemma has one loss in a national title game.

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Speaker 2: You know what that one loss was? You know that

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Speaker 2: was too South Carolina, South Carolina. South Carolina now has

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Speaker 2: one loss in a national title game?

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Speaker 3: Who was that to?

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Speaker 2: So if you're gonna talk about Geno's greatness in the

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Speaker 2: national title game because he.

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Speaker 3: Only got one, I lost, let's talk about the big

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Speaker 2: But she lost to who you think is the greatest,

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Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, facts facts get

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Speaker 1: Let's just give her her credit like we give Let's

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Speaker 1: just give her her credit.

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Speaker 3: But here's the other part. What the I don't even

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Speaker 1: I know we say what we want to say on here,

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Speaker 1: but I just don't want to use the F word,

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Speaker 1: So I ain't gonna use it just today. That's Sam,

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Speaker 1: What the fuck does her outfit have to do with

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Speaker 1: whether they want or lost.

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Speaker 2: I've been trying to figure that out for everything, because

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Speaker 2: you know, it's some folks out here who just hating

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Speaker 2: for no reason, and they don't have no legit reason

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Speaker 2: or no legit argument as to why they feel the

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Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all, come on now, If if that's what

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Speaker 3: On the sideline when when lose or draw period.

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Speaker 2: Because the jackets that Kim Walkee be wearing, it ain't cheap, honey.

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Speaker 3: God stop. They might not be Gucci, but.

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Speaker 2: They ain't They ain't two dollars they they ain't fluci either,

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Speaker 2: You feel me, honey, whatever, Baby.

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Speaker 3: Jackets ain't cheat what you're talking about? Seriously, come on, y'all,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we briefly talked on Tanayo Latson coming to

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Speaker 2: When we recorded this episode, Olivia had not yet announced

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Speaker 3: So sayces deuces.

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Speaker 2: So today we're gonna have a conversation about Olivia Miles,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna talk about when you know it's time

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Speaker 3: So let's go ahead and take this to the next level. Cheryl.

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Speaker 2: I was quite surprised when I saw the news pop

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't ripped in when I saw I'm gonna play

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Speaker 2: I wasn't tripping on I'm gonna use my next year

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Speaker 4: Was your reaction when you originally saw that.

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Speaker 3: The same right, I wasn't tripping that.

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Speaker 1: She was like, no, almost tay another year, because honestly,

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Speaker 3: So I was like, I am not mad at you,

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Speaker 1: But then I saw the entering the portal piece just

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Speaker 1: I'm like, honestly trying to understand her. Why because from

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Speaker 3: So from the outside looking in, everything.

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Speaker 1: Looks like it's really good, right, So my first question was, well, why,

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Speaker 1: well why? The other part though, is let's forget about

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yes, and you know, yeah, and you know it's going

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Speaker 4: Now it could potentially be in LSU.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could see Olivia going and I'm

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Speaker 3: We don't know.

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Speaker 2: So she hasn't said anything, but I think that the

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Speaker 4: So in your mind, you're like, of.

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Speaker 2: All the programs, Fast feels like the one that you

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Speaker 2: saying that maybe that's a factor. Is it the I

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Speaker 2: could also be, you know what, I just get four

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, We're so accustomed to when people start making changes,

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Speaker 1: we automatically want to say, oh, why what happened? What

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Speaker 1: who's to say that she won't go back to Notre

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Speaker 1: Day Just because enter the portal doesn't mean you can't

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Olivia Miles just doesn't seem like that

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Speaker 1: there were a few names that I was like, oh okay,

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Speaker 3: Was absolutely at the top of that list. Like what happens?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that kind of tricked me out.

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Speaker 2: But you know what it did for me though, is

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Speaker 2: the past is that we.

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Speaker 3: See coaches do this all the time. Like all the time,

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Speaker 2: Time necessarily have to sit here and think, let me

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Speaker 2: the loyalty that I have to this school. You typically

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead, look at Dion Sanders. No shade

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Speaker 3: In state here.

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Speaker 2: But when an opportunity came at Colorado, Colorado, and my

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Speaker 2: it was bigger. It was in a bigger conference, it

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like.

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Speaker 2: There was anything wrong with Jackson State, but when the

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Speaker 3: It was time to do something different.

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Speaker 2: And again I see coaches do that all the time

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Speaker 3: All the time, where's your loyalty? Time all the time.

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Speaker 2: But the moment of player says there's a bigger opportunity here,

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Speaker 2: We're criticizing the why this player has to make this decision.

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Speaker 3: I don't like it. No, I don't. I don't like

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Speaker 1: And to your point, sometimes we just outgrow stuff. We

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Speaker 1: And you know what, it ain't none of our damn business.

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Speaker 1: It ain't nobody's business. It's her business, and she can

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Speaker 2: I think the concept of folks just understanding that things

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Speaker 2: better is a lost contest.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, it is a loss. It is a lost concept.

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Speaker 3: And I'm glad you brought up.

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Speaker 2: People because like we all like there are friends that

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Speaker 3: Okay, but guess.

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Speaker 2: What, you ain't the same person you was when you

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Speaker 2: that she's ten. And it's toally, Okay, if at twenty

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Speaker 2: five and thirty, y'all have decided maybe y'all have outgrown

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Speaker 1: Yes, like maybe in opposite directions the thing, and that doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Necessarily mean that I that I got ill feelings toward you.

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Speaker 1: Now, because I'm gonna let you know. If I got

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Speaker 3: It won't be a question now, You'll just well know

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Speaker 2: But it's but it's like there there always is this

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Speaker 3: I need to grow, and in order for me to grow,

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Speaker 3: I can't be here. That's it.

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Speaker 1: And like I haven't looked at her recruiting class all

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Speaker 1: it could also simply be that she looked at what

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Speaker 3: To go to the final four, like I think a

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, maybe Olivia Miles looked at what

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Speaker 1: know what, I don't really like our chances of winning

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Speaker 1: someone else that I think we probably.

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Speaker 3: Have a really good shot at not just making it

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Speaker 1: Her last opportunity to do that, I'm not mad at

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Speaker 1: or regardless of what her reason is. Yes, you don't

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Speaker 1: owe nobody an explanation.

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Speaker 2: You owe nobody nothing, and you know, I think you

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Speaker 2: let me back up and say there are some people

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Speaker 2: because what that also means is that your draft stop

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Speaker 3: From the table.

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Speaker 2: If I'm someone like a Kiki heri FN who was

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Speaker 2: originally projected to be like the number two pick and

442
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: kind of had a rocky year, and now Olivia is

443
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: no longer on the table, you've got an.

444
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 3: Opportunity to increase your draft stock.

445
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: Now Anissamorrow not necessarily saying that you know she wasn't

446
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: a high draft I think you're crazy to not think

447
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: about picking a Nissamorrow. But now where you fall and

448
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: what your value is has to me instantly increased because

449
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: we don't have to worry about Miles being someone in

450
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: the pick. And then also on the professional side, Seattle,

451
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 2: you need to probably rethink what your strategy was and

452
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: evaluate the talent you were on because I'm pretty sure

453
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: y'all might have been considering picking up Olivia Miles. She

454
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 2: was projected to go to y'all number two and she's

455
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: not there anymore, So figuring out your team's needs, all

456
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: of these things are changed.

457
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 4: Like this move shifted the landscape.

458
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 2: Of women's basketball in a lot of different ways. And

459
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 2: again I tie this into just life overall, because there

460
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: are times we can make a move that genuinely. When

461
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: I made the move to see some renegotiations on my

462
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 2: contract with ESPN.

463
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 3: Like that was a big deal.

464
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: And again, I didn't leave that company with bad tastes,

465
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 2: with bad feelings. I didn't leave that company in beef

466
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 2: with nobody. It was simply time for me to go on.

467
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 3: It was about it was about you.

468
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: For me, it was about me, and that shifted the

469
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: dynamic of my entire life because this is what I

470
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: knew for so long. Similar to Olivia, all you've known

471
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 2: is is South Bend.

472
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 3: That's where you've been. It is a.

473
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 2: Defining moment to change this. This also reminds me of

474
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: Hayley van list Right.

475
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 4: She spent all that time at.

476
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: Louisville, went to LSU, it didn't really work out, came

477
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 2: to TCU and bald out.

478
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 4: Change is different Listen, yes, yes.

479
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: And so to your point when you talked about you

480
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: making the decision to walk away from ESPN, lots of

481
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: times it's not about the situation per se, right, Like

482
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't about the ESPN, it was about you.

483
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: Like Olivia Miles, this is about her. Sometimes you leave

484
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 3: where you are.

485
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: Because you're stuck and you don't see yourself either getting

486
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: a promotion or getting elevated or becoming a better person,

487
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: or you know what, making more money. Like there are

488
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: so many factors that go into someone making a decision

489
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: to make a change, right, And sometimes you just get

490
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: in a situation where you feel stuck and it's like,

491
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm not happy and your happiness should come before anything.

492
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: And so if you're at a place where you're like,

493
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: you know what, do I want to stay here and

494
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: just continue to go through the motions or do I

495
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: want to take a chance and do something different? And

496
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm the person that's like listen, I got to be happy, and.

497
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: I'm always gonna take that risk.

498
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a chance and say, you know what,

499
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: because I know me, I am always gonna bet on myself. Y'all,

500
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: bet on yourself because you can control you.

501
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you nailed it.

502
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: You nailed it.

503
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: I even I mean we we we record this podcast

504
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: for women to talk about the real ship that women

505
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: go through. And women go through this shit in relationships.

506
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: And I ain't saying men don't, but this ain't about y'all.

507
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm seeing women go through this shit in

508
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: relationships where it's like, outy, do you stay married to

509
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: this man because you're happy? Or do you stay with

510
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: this man because you're going through the motions because you

511
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: feel stuck, because you've been here, because it's familiar, because

512
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: it's the concept of leaving.

513
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 3: It's just something you can out.

514
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 4: It's comfortable, you know.

515
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: I don't.

516
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: I just it is is what it is like, Are

517
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: you a better person for staying here? Are you a

518
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: better person for And I'm not talking about like abusive

519
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: relationships or because that's a different situation, but I just mean, like,

520
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 2: you know, you're feeling stagnant, you don't feel the growth

521
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 2: between you and your partner, any of those types of things.

522
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: At that point, you got to say to yourself, is

523
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: my happiness worth just being just being here? If that's

524
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: not the case, if you can't wake up every day

525
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: feeling good about how you are and what you're doing,

526
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: maybe you need to it's time. It's time to move,

527
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: it's time to it's time to level up and do

528
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: something different. And so when we come back, we're going

529
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 2: to continue this conversation just about understanding when it is

530
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: time for us to be out.

531
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 4: Sureyl, when you've looked back over some of the.

532
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: Decisions that you've made in some of the times that

533
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: you've probably felt uncomfortable, is there one that comes to

534
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: mind where you're like, this is when I knew it

535
00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: was time for me to work.

536
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 3: You know, I probably knew long before I bounced. Do

537
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

538
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: That I should have bounced a long time ago, and

539
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: I did not for reasons that you just said before

540
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: the break right like it was comfortable, it was familiar,

541
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: I was, I wasn't happy, but I continue to stay right.

542
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: But I look back on it now, t and I

543
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: always try to find lessons in everything.

544
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: That I that I go through and that I do right,

545
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: because if you.

546
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: Learn a lesson from it, then chances are you won't

547
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: repeat that. And I don't even want to say it

548
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: was a mistake because I learned something from it. But

549
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: sometimes the hardest thing to do, though, is know you're

550
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about a relationship right, for sure, I

551
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: figured one of the hardest things to do is to

552
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: know you're in a situation or a relationship, whatever whatever

553
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: it is for you. In my case, sometimes it's hard

554
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: to be in a relationship and know that it's time

555
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: to move on. For me, I kept saying tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow,

556
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: and two years later, I'm still in the same relationship.

557
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what finally made me say, all right,

558
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: I gotta go. My kid, like I mean, he was younger.

559
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: But because when you're in a relationship where you're not

560
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: happy and things aren't going.

561
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: Well, and especially if you have kids involved, not only

562
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: does it affect you, it affects the child and they

563
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: can see like he could see my mama ain't happy.

564
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: Like you know, I wasn't doing the things with him

565
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: that I used to do. I was there, but I

566
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: wasn't present. If that makes sense. Yeah, it does. Like

567
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: my begne was all somewhere else, Like I got to

568
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: get out of this. How do I do it? When

569
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: do I do it?

570
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: When's the right time? Because so many times T and

571
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: I said this a second ago. You got to worry

572
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: about you. You can't worry about that other person. And

573
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: that's what I did. I was like, yeah, but if

574
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: I do leave, what's gonna happen?

575
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: How? Yeah, So not only a relationship, there have been

576
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: other instances and situations of just things that I've done

577
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: and I'm like, why am I doing this? Because you

578
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: know what this is.

579
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: Lessigan some like my mom used to tell me, all

580
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: money ain't good money, girl, not at all. To connect

581
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: my name and myself with certain brands or things like that.

582
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: And I'm at the time, right when I was younger,

583
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: I was like, yep, yep, yep.

584
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: Anybody that came, I was like yep, yep, yep.

585
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: And as I got older, I was like, I don't

586
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: even believe in this, right, Like, I can't even connect

587
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: it this, So why would I continue to put myself

588
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: in a place, a situation or connected with a brand

589
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: or something that ain't me?

590
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: And even in doing that, Yeah, the money was good,

591
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: but I wasn't happy.

592
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: And that's what I keep going back to is even

593
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: with Olivia Miles situation again, since don't owe us anything,

594
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 1: but I just whatever decision she makes, if that is

595
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: to go back to Notre Dame or wherever she goes,

596
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: I just hope she's happy.

597
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: Yep, whatever decision she makes, I really and truly hope

598
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: it is the hundred precision for her and not necessarily

599
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: based on outside influences. But what you think is going

600
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: to make you happy and make you a better person

601
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: and better your chances at having the career that you

602
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: want to have. And I truly hope this also gives

603
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: people an understanding of that don't necessarily mean it's nothing wrong.

604
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: Like I've had, you know, chances or relationships or situations

605
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: where I've had to move on and it was an

606
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: that the wrong with the person that I was with.

607
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 4: It just wasn't for me.

608
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 3: Like you are.

609
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: You are a good dude, you got stuff.

610
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: Going on for you just gonna be a good dude.

611
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: Somebody, like somebody else is gonna love the shout out you,

612
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: but it ain't gonna be me because I I can't

613
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: do it.

614
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 4: And so That's what I'm thinking, Like, I don't want.

615
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: People to start narratives about you know, what's going on

616
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: your dam why you know what I'm saying, like it's

617
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: eye opening, but it doesn't necessarily mean that there's anything

618
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: negative around the program, around her, around her teammates.

619
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: It could be.

620
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be, but at the same time, it's

621
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: a fifty percent chance that also could not be.

622
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: And so instead of us or it's I ain't gonna

623
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: say that.

624
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: Because folks, I'm like, you do what makes you happy?

625
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying, go, do you?

626
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: But I just want folks to not be so quick

627
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: to throw out these judgmental cards of what the reason

628
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: could possibly be in a negative connotation when quite honestly,

629
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: it could just simply be her.

630
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: Wanting to go.

631
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing I want to add to

632
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: that is like I hate it for Neil right because

633
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: as a black woman, people are always going to say, well,

634
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: what what is Neil doing wrong over there?

635
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: What is she doing wrong over there? How could she

636
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: not keep a living of miles?

637
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: You don't even know what's going on over there, So

638
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: don't put Neil Ivey's name in this. This is all

639
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: whatever the reason it's this is all on Olivia.

640
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: Miles wanting to do what Olivia Miles wants to do,

641
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: and she don't need our approval or okay, yeah, that part,

642
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: that part, that part.

643
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: Black female head coaches are few and far betein winning

644
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: as it is already. What we don't need is for

645
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: anybody to be out here trying to create a narrative

646
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: and disrupting a program that has done nothing, in my

647
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: opinion from what I've seen, but provide the utmost integrity

648
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: with their students and with their program.

649
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 4: Even when Muffatt mcbrau.

650
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: Was the coach, like I didn't, there was no reason

651
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: for me to think that there is something fishy to

652
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: where I genuinely like you think, this is just Olivia

653
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: making a decision that she wants to make and she's

654
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: totally within her rights to do so. So that's what

655
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: we're doing today. We are okay with moving on and

656
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: leaving situations that just simply don't make us happy. I

657
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: think when we started this year, I said this year

658
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: was my year of celebration, my year of everything think

659
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm doing this year make me happy. Everything I'm doing

660
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 2: this year I am going to celebrate. So I surely

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Speaker 2: will not cast judgment on somebody else doing the same thing.

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Speaker 3: You did say that at the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 4: Sure it is.

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Speaker 3: Listen, just be happy, Just be happy and love it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody else, go mind your business and go find you

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Speaker 1: some happiness.

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Speaker 3: Go drink some water. Treat me some stronger. Go drink

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Speaker 3: yourself stronger.

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Speaker 4: Go drink some water, Go enjoy life.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, any rate, when we come back, guys, we

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Speaker 2: will level this thing off.

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Speaker 4: Please stay with us.

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Speaker 2: Well, Cheryl, I will say that throughout the entirety of

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Speaker 2: this conversation, I feel good about having the discernment to

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Speaker 2: know when it's time to move on, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? And like everybody don't really have that ability.

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Speaker 2: Like you know, you ever pray for something and then

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Speaker 2: God answers your prayers, but you're too busy worried about

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Speaker 2: the prayer being answered the way you wanted to be answered,

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Speaker 2: that you don't recognize he didn't already answered you.

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Speaker 4: Or like when you you know you're dating somebody and

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Speaker 4: you'd be.

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Speaker 2: Like, Lord, show me if this is the one, and

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Speaker 2: he showed you he didne showed you fifteen red flags,

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Speaker 2: and you're still sitting up here talking about but if

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Speaker 2: you just let me know like he.

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Speaker 3: Didn't let you know. Yeah, yes, yes on.

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Speaker 1: Te But like we talked about, though, sometimes it's hard.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to say, you know what. I know you've

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Speaker 3: sent me.

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Speaker 1: The sign I see it, but just just let me

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Speaker 1: stay a little bit longer. So seriously, kudos to Olivia,

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Speaker 1: Kudos to every single player that's like it's time. It's

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Speaker 1: time for me to make a move, to make a change.

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Speaker 1: And like we said, keep doing you and whatever makes

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Speaker 1: you happy, if that's to stay safe, is to go, go,

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Speaker 1: but make sure you're doing it for the right reason

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Speaker 1: and you're doing it for you.

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Speaker 4: And you're doing it for you.

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Speaker 2: So with that, let's take a moment to level up

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Speaker 2: and Cheryl, let me know what you got for the

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Speaker 2: people today.

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, all right, all right, I got

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Speaker 3: a good one. I got a good one. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's just since we celebrate Black History Month, Women's History Month,

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Speaker 1: and with April being Black Women's History months, I just

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Speaker 1: got a good one for the women out there. And

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Speaker 1: this is for all women and it's unknown, I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you that now, but it says a strong

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Speaker 1: woman knows she has strength enough for the journey. But

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Speaker 1: a woman of strength knows it is in the journey

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Speaker 1: where she will become strong. I need that and that

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Speaker 1: that can apply to so many different parts of our life.

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Speaker 1: Olivia Miles going into the transfer portal to Naya letson.

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Speaker 1: Even the ones who decided they're not gonna go in

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Speaker 1: the draft, this is your journey, says and nobody can

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Speaker 1: walk your journey like you, So just know that in

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Speaker 1: that journey, that's where you're going to find your strength,

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Speaker 1: becomes strong, all the things.

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Speaker 2: That is a wonderful way to end this week's episode,

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Speaker 2: And thank you all for listening. I hope those of

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Speaker 2: you that are listening to us find the strength that

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Speaker 2: you have within yourself, within your own journey and whatever

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Speaker 2: that journey is that you're currently taking and you're walking

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Speaker 2: at this moment. So we're gonna be back next week

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Speaker 2: with more next level conversations, and let me tell you,

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Speaker 2: for the month of April, we have some incredible conversations

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Speaker 2: lined up. I'm not gonna give it away, but I

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Speaker 2: need you gotta make sure you are subscribed. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: good old podcast because we are definitely gonna be bringing

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Speaker 2: the heat this much and Remember, this isn't.

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Speaker 4: Just our show, but it is our show and we

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Speaker 4: love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: So leave us a review in Apple Podcasts or email

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Speaker 2: us at Levels to this Podcast at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 4: Tell us what you thought of this week's show.

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Speaker 2: Also tell us what you might want to talk about

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Speaker 2: in the future, and you can also follow us on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: At ltt pod.

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Speaker 2: You definitely want to make sure you're following us on

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Speaker 2: Instagram because, first of all, them fits that I got

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Speaker 2: off last week was killing it, and so was Cheryl. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna need you all to throw me some hearts

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Speaker 2: on the line, Okay, So until then, keep your mental's

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Speaker 2: ground level and.

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Speaker 3: We will be back next week.

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Speaker 1: Please and listen to Levels to This on America's number

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