WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Making a Difference? 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:07.960 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:19.439 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Blowing out of the 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:25.360 backfield's flowing down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:29.720 presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:39.360 your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Thursday, 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:43.239 it's not eleven thirty. It is one thirty pm in 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.600 the afternoon, and that can mean only one thing. It 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.240 is time for this week's edition of Hanging with the Boys. 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:54.200 There's a live look at the Tostitos Championship Plaza at 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.680 Ford Center. Here at the Star in Frisco, it is 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.680 eighty two degrees outside, it feels like a four. There 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.960 will be a low tonight of sixty five. And I 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:09.680 am joined here today by my co hosts, colleagues and friends, 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.119 Jesse Holly and Nate Newton. There, Hey, how are you doing. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.840 I'm doing great. Thank you for asking date. Let's see 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.120 I'm very sad to see you. We are. We have 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:23.160 upgraded Jesse's seat and uh we are kurtless today. So 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:27.319 Jesse is sitting in the co pilot chair over and 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:29.920 Chris beams back there on the ones and twos for 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.039 one more week before he goes on vacation, and then 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:33.800 tune in next week to see if we get it 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.240 even get on the air when Scott Purcell is running 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:41.959 the show. But uh, yeah, so we're here here, pray hard, 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:46.520 pray hard. We are two hours late because little practice 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.840 going on outside. They're wrapping up with the last day 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.760 I believe of well, last day this week of OTA's 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.680 and then I think, uh, next week is mini camp? 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.960 Is that right? Is that right? Chris? Did I get 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.880 that right? Uh? One more day tomorrow of ots okay, 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:06.120 and then three days next week of minim minicamp Tuesday, 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.360 Wednesday and Thursday. Wow. All right, So Jesse and I 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.160 watched practice together and we invited Nate. But Nate seems 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.880 to think that practice isn't an important So why is practice? 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.080 Watching practice not important? Date? Because after about two or 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.760 three belly bumps from three hundred pound guys, what more 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.480 do you want? I mean, it's the same routine. Bumper 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.320 belley hill, bumper belly there. You know what I'm saying. 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.520 So you're saying until the pads come on, it's really 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.880 not a hole. You see one practice? Well, you see 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:33.840 what they look like. You see there how they're moving 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.160 and it's time to go get it. Put it this way, okay. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:41.400 Zeke was on the sideline working out. Lake Jarlon was 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.600 on the sideline working out. Mitch Height was on the 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.079 sideline working out. We saw a little bit of number 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:53.000 seventy two, Tristan Hill. He was running on the sideline. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.960 He got a little bit of practice. You get me now, Shannon, 0:02:56.240 --> 0:03:00.359 did you think I did not watch practice? Dahn really 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.560 good brother two until he you know, he couldn't do it. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.880 Then he can't do no team. He's not participating in 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:09.480 teamwork out. But he looked good on it in the nets. Yeah, 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.359 with no defenders, no defenders. Didn't practice, Yes he did. 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.359 Seventy two, Yes he did. He didn't seventy two he didn't. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.040 Who was number seventy two? I saw him on the course. 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:21.679 So I'm on the court with the Marcus Lawrence the 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:23.520 entire pri I saw him on the court too. But 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.760 I also saw him in two man rush down there. Okay. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.600 So I got a question for you then, if you 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:34.320 watched practice, and we invited you to watch practice with us, 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.680 what do you have against me and Jesse Why would 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:40.000 you not watch practice because Jesse smells like lysol and 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:45.440 I don't want to be around. That's just not nice, Nate. 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.960 That's fine. You know what. I'm not gonna invite you 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:55.080 to watch practice with us ever. Again. Nice just joke 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.320 about Jesse. The only thing that yeah, the only thing 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.880 that I'm going to do is look at the fat 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.160 guys I have not. I saw one play with number 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:11.520 eleven Michael Michael, Michael Mica, Micah Parsons. Parsons got in 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.960 a sep went up for it. Yeah, stretched out And 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:19.080 the only reason I knew that it's cause Douglas told 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.760 me I was down there looking at it once again, 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.200 looking at the fat guys. I saw number seventy seven 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.880 out there made my heart warm. And seeing number seventy 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.840 seven out all I look at is the fat guys. 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.080 Guys ain't fat. I was fat. Them guys look good. 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.760 Tell you what, I am going to defend Jesse on 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:40.400 this one, because Jesse, even though he smells like lightsaw, 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:44.280 he was he was about two years ahead of this pandemic. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.880 Yes he was, because we made fun of you for 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:52.280 two years for spraying off the mic, cleaning the studio 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.360 and Guess what after we were gone for a year. 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:57.560 Guess what everybody had to do when we came back. 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:02.160 Lights all the yeah, wipe off the counter. So Jesse, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.080 you you were ahead of this thing. You were before 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:10.240 your time. Me and doctor Fauci right, listen to us, 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:14.039 We listen to him. No, but I agree a little 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:19.680 bit with Nate right. We football is such a polarizing 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:25.360 thing in Texas across the country with the Dallas Cowboys. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:30.640 But when you're going you watch these practices, you don't 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.080 really learn much. Yeah, you see guys, Ok, he looks good, 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.760 he's in shape, he looks slender, he looks felt, he 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.760 looks fat, he looks this. You want to see guys move, 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.839 But you you, you don't learn a lot and a 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.599 lot of it. Because I was, I was talking to 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:49.599 you like I don't like watching seven on seven. I 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:56.400 don't like watching half drills because they they're not realistic. 0:05:58.000 --> 0:05:59.920 I want to see some team stuff. But then when 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.000 team stuff comes and you're not in pad, you don't 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.840 really get a chance to fully see. You know, I 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.400 hate I hate this when I played. I hate it now. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.760 I hate when you're watching practice and and a ball 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:13.800 carrier has a ball and you see a dude come 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.599 by and and do a little fake like he got 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.400 you know, I thud or you know you tap them 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.760 on the side or I got the tackle. No, you don't. 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:29.200 I've watched you in real life games and not make 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.440 the tackles. Stare tell me because you know, I'm I'm 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.440 running by you happy to get the two hands on 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.720 my hips that I'm tackled, because I've seen you standing 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.360 square in front of a dude and not make the tackle. 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.839 So when you you know, we get so excited about 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:48.240 this practice, you know, and rightfully, so football's back, and 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.320 we love that. And fans want to kind of hear 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.800 things and they want to talk about things, but you 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.279 don't really learn much. Their players are still learning, the 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.640 coaches are still learning, the players. You're still trying to 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.520 kind of implement some things. You're still trying to input 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:06.080 some things, and and and and no one's fully going 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.840 all out to do anything and so and that's why 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:11.480 I always tell people like I can tell you what 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.280 a team is going to be like when we get 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.600 to training camp, when the past start coming on and 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:20.280 the real stuff starts happening. Because here's my thing. When 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.200 we're doing seven on seven, Right, that's a defensive drill. 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.239 Why is that, Jesse, it's a defensive drill. Seven on seven. 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.760 It's a defensive drill. You think, So it's a pass. 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:37.520 Everyone knows it's a pass. Well, why defense keep getting 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:42.640 caught on that? Then stop? What has to happen has 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.440 already happened. Ain't no lineman, so you you ain't running 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:50.120 the ball. So in my mind, I'm already saying, well, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:53.160 I know it's a pass, so defense is gonna win 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.600 a large majority of the seven on seven I don't agree. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:00.960 And then the thing when I played with Troy, he 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:05.400 used to dominate. When he used to him, Mike and 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:11.040 av they used to well to to d came. Then 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:18.040 I agree with you. When someone who was for someone 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.400 who wasn't afraid to tell Michael you ain't catching it. 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.360 That's the thing. Before Dion got there, Michael, tell a 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.400 dB and listen, let me let me catch this. I'm 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:26.920 not trying to work on my catching, you know, my 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.560 route running whatever. And then pron got there. Problem to him, 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.000 you can kiss my no, you had to earn this right, 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.360 And then then it became a little bit more competitive. Yeah, 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:38.520 but it's it's a defensive drill. When you do half line, 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.880 you're gonna pads on. It's a differenceive drill. So all 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.480 the different things you see. I look for the fluidity. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.599 I looked to see who's moving well. I looked to 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.240 see who's kind of you know, out there and quick 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.360 twitch and all that kind of stuff. But you don't 0:08:53.440 --> 0:09:00.880 really tell I have from watching practice today. Nothing has 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.439 changed about what I know about this football team and 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.080 I do yesterday. So you don't know if they're gonna 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:07.920 be any better on defense. That's about looking at guys 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.920 running around in shorts. No, ain't nobody making no calls. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.000 I told you upstairs. It's a lot different to stand 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.160 out here in a practice field and play. And then 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.000 when you got number twelve standing at the line of 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.599 scrimmage and he's saying number eleven is the mic and 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.800 number twel I'm talking about number twelve and Tampa band 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.000 do with all those Super Bowl rings. That's the difference. 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.000 When he's saying, oh, he's the mic, and now you said, oh, 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.360 he knows them the mike and he knows what we're in. 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.440 That's when it gets a little bit real to me. 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.120 You know, this is this is fun. It's necessary. It's 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:40.000 important for them, for the players, for the coaches, fans, 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.240 and for the fans because you're doing a great job 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:47.760 of discredit and OTAs. No, no, no, OTAs are necessary. 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.400 Yeah they are, y Yeah, but you can't have it 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:57.360 both ways. Not for for our evaluation. Okay, you can't 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.200 tell a different you. I can't you you can't. You 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.120 can't go out there right now and tell me who's 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.360 going to be the best player on a particularly side 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.840 of the ball. I can. I can name three defensive 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:12.520 players right now, defensive tackles that's gonna be better than 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.520 Pole was last year. Hell, you can go back out 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:21.920 there right now, ridiculous knees. And what I'm saying is 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:23.920 for the fans, it's great to see the guys back 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.760 out there. For the reporters, it's great to kind of 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.040 start drumming up some of your stories. For the coaches, 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.480 it's great to have the players back out there. But 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.960 you really, for some former players, it kind of makes 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.520 you wish you were still playing. It got me last week. 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.600 It got me. Yes, you shared a moment with me upstairs. 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:49.280 What happened to private private moment that no supposed about? No, no, 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:54.800 I thought I'd have screwed up told another when uh, 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:56.959 when we were leaving last week, I stayed and I 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.280 watched some of the practice and and I had that 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.040 feeling come over me again, like like I hadn't had 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.360 that feeling a long time. What feeling is there? Like 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:12.600 I want to play, but but no, I was I 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.240 was trying to leave. I was trying to leave, and 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.480 my legs wouldn't move, and the hair set up on 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.160 the back of my neck and I got that that 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:24.840 those butterfly tingly feelings in my stomach, and then drenaline 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.520 started pumping, and I was just like, and I hadn't 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.480 felt that in the law? Would you eat before you 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.480 some bad food? It might have been some I haven't 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.720 had some dreams. Well, I was playing in games and 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.120 woke up and say that was just a dream. I 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:41.679 got in the car, said to tell myself, Okay, I 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.560 got I know. I got in the car like, what 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.320 the hell was that? But how has it been since you, 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.920 like wanted you had that feeling years years, at least 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.000 five or six years, really, and you don't know why. 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:57.720 I just it last week. It jumped on me, jumped 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.720 on you think maybe it's because you hadn't like visually 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.560 seen football in person in like over a year, and 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.880 it was like the first time you've been I don't know, 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.920 I like the football. Horny and me went through the roof. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.880 Anybody got Jim Myers phone, we can call it Psychostrius. 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:20.319 We gotta fix, called me Jackie. Called back the Jackie. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.040 We got one over here. And I need this evaluation. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:25.280 But I know I came to my senses when I 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:26.920 got in the car I was driving home. I was like, 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:29.360 that was weird. And then he went home and looked 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:30.600 in the mirror and he said, you know what, I 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:34.439 probably can't play receiver, but I bet I could play safety, 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.439 maybe even a little linebacker down in the box. Safety 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.120 ran through my mind. It did. And then he saw 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:46.199 Tim Tebow on the TV and he's like, don't laugh 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:50.760 at me. I mean, what day, Nate, I'm loving this man. Yeah, 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.640 he had him to own the couch with Jesse. He 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.839 had had he had a problem sticking in the league 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.680 when he was healthy, and he was prime, in his prime, 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.720 and now he's ten years and I was thinking about 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.800 switching positions and going maybe just maybe maybe I was out, 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.960 Maybe I out of position, right right, maybe I should 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.200 have been a see look right, oh man. The only 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.880 way to find out is to find the way these 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:17.120 tight ends and wide receivers coming back ass tight ends. 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:21.440 That boy from Florida to change what I'm saying Tebow no, yeah, no, 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.680 he didn't change the game, bro, No, no. I came 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:27.600 to my senses. It was it was one of those 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.240 moments I had the moment. It was a weird felt 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.560 I felt it felt odd, and then by the time 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.760 I got down a toll way, it was like boy, please, 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:37.360 and then he's like, you know what, I'll be back 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.959 next week to make my ten dollars. And I went 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.080 to workout and I realized, like how I felt after 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.800 a workout, like imagine at it and doing the workout 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.520 one hundred persons. I letn't to see if I can 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:47.760 do it. Let me see if I can do it. 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.599 I double scooped on on on the pre workout. It 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:54.040 was like scoop shot yeah. Yeah. It was like red 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:58.080 Bull and five hours and the pre workout and I 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.360 felt my like, I'm so beat up. I thought I 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.320 was done working out. I was like, now, imagine this 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.000 on top of or two hour practice or on top 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.079 of a training camp times what one hundred and twenty 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:12.720 days or whatever? What's the difference between is there is 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.200 there a difference from a player perspective from OTAs to 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:21.040 mini camp. OTAs are voluntary, right, Is there any difference 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:22.840 other than you you have to be here from any 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:27.200 camp from a is it a harder practice when I played? 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:31.920 When I played, Uh, we didn't have OTAs. Jimmy Johnson 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.200 brought all of this in. Jimmy Johnson brought all of 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.240 this stuff, you see now, he brought it in. You 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.360 didn't have You had the draft week. You came in 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.040 after the draft about a week or ten days days, 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.480 and after that you started working out as a rookie. 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.400 You didn't even go back home. So, but then when 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:54.280 mini camp came, it wasn't about no rookies. You got in. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.320 When you got in, the veterans got that work, you know. 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.640 So and then after that many camp, I think you 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.400 had two if you had a new coach or something, 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:04.480 and you had a mini camp and then you just 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.640 started working out from that point on. So how was 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.800 it with with y'all? I'm time when out first started, 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.960 they got a little more advanced once we got going. Yeah, 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:16.160 when I when I started, it was rookie minicamp after 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.400 the draft. Ye, all rookies come in. Then I was. 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.880 I came in, there was already man, you went to work. 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.200 So now the thing is rookie mini caamp. Now ain't 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.120 nothing to like when I came in. You were full padded. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:32.400 Ye two of days, three of days. I was on 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.960 the tail end of the three of days two a 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:38.480 day era. So you know you had that the difference 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:44.480 between OTA's an actual mini camp like one. You're still fresh, right, 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.320 You're excited to be playing football a track, you're running 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:52.760 around training camps. It's real deal, right, Those days begin 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:58.800 to add up, The days are longer, the practices are harder. Again, Nate, 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.280 you were you had two, there's probably three days dream 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.560 we we we had, we definitely had. We had full 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:12.440 padded to it. We went to Austin and Coach Jones said, uh, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.720 we're not gonna do for We're not gonna do the 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.040 forty nine US. We're not the forty nine. We're gonna 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.160 be more physical. And so everybody had this kind of 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.320 all like, what do you mean, look in their eyes, 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.000 We're gonna hit. I'm not gonna keep you out there 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:33.360 more than two hours per practice. You know, at that time, 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.920 the forty niners was going anywhere from two and a 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.280 half the three hours because it's don't pass a lot 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.480 of times, so they're expected for a lot of running, 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:46.200 a lot of speed. Well, we opened up the first day, 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.800 he said, full pass. Tomorrow we're gonna get We're gonna 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.440 work our way into it. And working our way into 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:55.400 it was seven on nine, seven on offense, nine on defense. 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.000 Because they brought the safeties, one of the safeties in 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.480 and man, you're talking about a slaughter house for like 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:06.240 thirty five minutes. I was like, you know what, we 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.240 just got undressed. Nobody said the word you know him. 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.920 After that you everybody said the word, and we're like, okay, 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:15.119 it can't be this way in the afternoon, Okay, it wasn't. 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.639 The only difference was when we went inside run they 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:22.920 changed from seven or nine to inside run. Was you 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:27.280 just didn't tackle the back in the afternoon, they didn't 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.320 changing the boys up front. So I said to myself, 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.439 we all lived at each other and we just shook 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:36.160 our head and we knew who ever survived. It wasn't 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.560 about making the team. It's like whoever's walking at the 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.760 end of these six weeks would make the team. That's 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.560 how Jimmy was not accented these guys around. He was 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.800 not playing man, he because he knew him and mister 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.160 Jones knew, like, this is not gonna be my team. 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.639 Three years from now, these guys you have on this 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.800 field would not eighty percent of them would not be here. 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.560 So he didn't care. It was like, we're gonna see 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.439 what the toughest guys are. So times have changes. What 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:08.520 you're saying, Yes, money has finally taken full effect of 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:10.679 how you treat guys. He said, six weeks do you 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.720 do do six weeks now training camp? It's like four 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:16.200 weeks we did. We did six weeks three to five, 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.280 and it's only five if you play two weeks before. 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.240 You had a week with w the rookies. Then then 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.000 the veterans came in and you know that next week 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.080 you know, you know it was eight weeks and then 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.639 the next week you get yeah, you get ready for 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:36.000 you start getting ready for the preseason. Yeah, that's survival, yeah, Lee. 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.040 And see the thing about it was if you moaned 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:43.239 and groaned and miss practice, Jimmy didn't sale word. It 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.800 was so funny. He just he'll let you get healthy. 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.280 He'll come up to you, man, slick little dude. He 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.480 would come up to you. Hey, y'all right today you 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.680 feel good? Yeah, he'll patch you all on the butt. 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.480 Oh man, he'll run around like a little pub what 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:00.800 he's practiced in the day. Hey, hey, Rich, go get 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:08.040 my medical man, he's out of here. Oh, it was 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.280 so funny. I think of Kevin O'Neill. You know, Kevin 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.560 O'Neill wants to do run off the practice. Kevin oornil 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:20.040 do not let him practice today. Really, so you had 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:21.920 to play through stuff is with Yeah, and that's why 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.359 when a lot of people ask coach Johnson, will he 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.600 ever come back to coach and he says, I cannot 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:32.879 be that person again. You couldn't do it that way. Yeah. No, 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.879 The thing is he said he could not be that 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.120 He could be that person, but he said he don't 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.560 want to be that person again, because you literally did 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.439 not care if it wasn't your team. You did not 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:49.080 draft these guys. He did not want you. You had 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.359 to be elite. If anybody that can go in and 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.680 get rid of Damn Marino from Miami Dolphins that I'll 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.560 tell you something, all right, fas, let's take our first 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:01.679 break a lot to get to today. I want to 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.119 know if y'all are worried about the backup quarterback situation, 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:09.520 Oh my god, because there's three we have one there, well, 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:11.760 there's three guys that we're all very familiar with that. 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.160 I think we had all three of them last year 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.720 and I think two, maybe all three of them played, 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.760 and I don't know if any one of them really 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:27.120 stuck that. Let's talk about Blake Jarwin hopefully getting back 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:28.480 out on the field. And I want to talk to 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.600 y'all about coach Quinn Jesse. You and I talked about 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:35.680 this a little bit upstairs. What your expectations are from 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.359 the defense and if you think that he can really 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:42.600 make a difference. I saw he got hiptows earlier, one 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.639 of them, Big Laman Hiptoss. He was out there with 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.040 his hat turn around backwards and after he had to 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:48.560 pick it up off the ground of that big Laman 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.399 almost threw him on his neck. Let's talk about that 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:55.960 and more when we come back old hanging with the boys. 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