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Speaker 1: backfield's flowing down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys,
Speaker 1: presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now
Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Thursday,
Speaker 1: it's not eleven thirty. It is one thirty pm in
Speaker 1: the afternoon, and that can mean only one thing. It
Speaker 1: is time for this week's edition of Hanging with the Boys.
Speaker 1: There's a live look at the Tostitos Championship Plaza at
Speaker 1: Ford Center. Here at the Star in Frisco, it is
Speaker 1: eighty two degrees outside, it feels like a four. There
Speaker 1: will be a low tonight of sixty five. And I
Speaker 1: am joined here today by my co hosts, colleagues and friends,
Speaker 1: Jesse Holly and Nate Newton. There, Hey, how are you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Thank you for asking date. Let's see
Speaker 1: I'm very sad to see you. We are. We have
Speaker 1: upgraded Jesse's seat and uh we are kurtless today. So
Speaker 1: Jesse is sitting in the co pilot chair over and
Speaker 1: Chris beams back there on the ones and twos for
Speaker 1: one more week before he goes on vacation, and then
Speaker 1: tune in next week to see if we get it
Speaker 1: even get on the air when Scott Purcell is running
Speaker 1: the show. But uh, yeah, so we're here here, pray hard,
Speaker 1: pray hard. We are two hours late because little practice
Speaker 1: going on outside. They're wrapping up with the last day
Speaker 1: I believe of well, last day this week of OTA's
Speaker 1: and then I think, uh, next week is mini camp?
Speaker 1: Is that right? Is that right? Chris? Did I get
Speaker 1: that right? Uh? One more day tomorrow of ots okay,
Speaker 1: and then three days next week of minim minicamp Tuesday,
Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday. Wow. All right, So Jesse and I
Speaker 1: watched practice together and we invited Nate. But Nate seems
Speaker 1: to think that practice isn't an important So why is practice?
Speaker 1: Watching practice not important? Date? Because after about two or
Speaker 1: three belly bumps from three hundred pound guys, what more
Speaker 1: do you want? I mean, it's the same routine. Bumper
Speaker 1: belley hill, bumper belly there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you're saying until the pads come on, it's really
Speaker 1: not a hole. You see one practice? Well, you see
Speaker 1: what they look like. You see there how they're moving
Speaker 1: and it's time to go get it. Put it this way, okay.
Speaker 1: Zeke was on the sideline working out. Lake Jarlon was
Speaker 1: on the sideline working out. Mitch Height was on the
Speaker 1: sideline working out. We saw a little bit of number
Speaker 1: seventy two, Tristan Hill. He was running on the sideline.
Speaker 1: He got a little bit of practice. You get me now, Shannon,
Speaker 1: did you think I did not watch practice? Dahn really
Speaker 1: good brother two until he you know, he couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: Then he can't do no team. He's not participating in
Speaker 1: teamwork out. But he looked good on it in the nets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with no defenders, no defenders. Didn't practice, Yes he did.
Speaker 1: Seventy two, Yes he did. He didn't seventy two he didn't.
Speaker 1: Who was number seventy two? I saw him on the course.
Speaker 1: So I'm on the court with the Marcus Lawrence the
Speaker 1: entire pri I saw him on the court too. But
Speaker 1: I also saw him in two man rush down there. Okay.
Speaker 1: So I got a question for you then, if you
Speaker 1: watched practice, and we invited you to watch practice with us,
Speaker 1: what do you have against me and Jesse Why would
Speaker 1: you not watch practice because Jesse smells like lysol and
Speaker 1: I don't want to be around. That's just not nice, Nate.
Speaker 1: That's fine. You know what. I'm not gonna invite you
Speaker 1: to watch practice with us ever. Again. Nice just joke
Speaker 1: about Jesse. The only thing that yeah, the only thing
Speaker 1: that I'm going to do is look at the fat
Speaker 1: guys I have not. I saw one play with number
Speaker 1: eleven Michael Michael, Michael Mica, Micah Parsons. Parsons got in
Speaker 1: a sep went up for it. Yeah, stretched out And
Speaker 1: the only reason I knew that it's cause Douglas told
Speaker 1: me I was down there looking at it once again,
Speaker 1: looking at the fat guys. I saw number seventy seven
Speaker 1: out there made my heart warm. And seeing number seventy
Speaker 1: seven out all I look at is the fat guys.
Speaker 1: Guys ain't fat. I was fat. Them guys look good.
Speaker 1: Tell you what, I am going to defend Jesse on
Speaker 1: this one, because Jesse, even though he smells like lightsaw,
Speaker 1: he was he was about two years ahead of this pandemic.
Speaker 1: Yes he was, because we made fun of you for
Speaker 1: two years for spraying off the mic, cleaning the studio
Speaker 1: and Guess what after we were gone for a year.
Speaker 1: Guess what everybody had to do when we came back.
Speaker 1: Lights all the yeah, wipe off the counter. So Jesse,
Speaker 1: you you were ahead of this thing. You were before
Speaker 1: your time. Me and doctor Fauci right, listen to us,
Speaker 1: We listen to him. No, but I agree a little
Speaker 1: bit with Nate right. We football is such a polarizing
Speaker 1: thing in Texas across the country with the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But when you're going you watch these practices, you don't
Speaker 1: really learn much. Yeah, you see guys, Ok, he looks good,
Speaker 1: he's in shape, he looks slender, he looks felt, he
Speaker 1: looks fat, he looks this. You want to see guys move,
Speaker 1: But you you, you don't learn a lot and a
Speaker 1: lot of it. Because I was, I was talking to
Speaker 1: you like I don't like watching seven on seven. I
Speaker 1: don't like watching half drills because they they're not realistic.
Speaker 1: I want to see some team stuff. But then when
Speaker 1: team stuff comes and you're not in pad, you don't
Speaker 1: really get a chance to fully see. You know, I
Speaker 1: hate I hate this when I played. I hate it now.
Speaker 1: I hate when you're watching practice and and a ball
Speaker 1: carrier has a ball and you see a dude come
Speaker 1: by and and do a little fake like he got
Speaker 1: you know, I thud or you know you tap them
Speaker 1: on the side or I got the tackle. No, you don't.
Speaker 1: I've watched you in real life games and not make
Speaker 1: the tackles. Stare tell me because you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: running by you happy to get the two hands on
Speaker 1: my hips that I'm tackled, because I've seen you standing
Speaker 1: square in front of a dude and not make the tackle.
Speaker 1: So when you you know, we get so excited about
Speaker 1: this practice, you know, and rightfully, so football's back, and
Speaker 1: we love that. And fans want to kind of hear
Speaker 1: things and they want to talk about things, but you
Speaker 1: don't really learn much. Their players are still learning, the
Speaker 1: coaches are still learning, the players. You're still trying to
Speaker 1: kind of implement some things. You're still trying to input
Speaker 1: some things, and and and and no one's fully going
Speaker 1: all out to do anything and so and that's why
Speaker 1: I always tell people like I can tell you what
Speaker 1: a team is going to be like when we get
Speaker 1: to training camp, when the past start coming on and
Speaker 1: the real stuff starts happening. Because here's my thing. When
Speaker 1: we're doing seven on seven, Right, that's a defensive drill.
Speaker 1: Why is that, Jesse, it's a defensive drill. Seven on seven.
Speaker 1: It's a defensive drill. You think, So it's a pass.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows it's a pass. Well, why defense keep getting
Speaker 1: caught on that? Then stop? What has to happen has
Speaker 1: already happened. Ain't no lineman, so you you ain't running
Speaker 1: the ball. So in my mind, I'm already saying, well,
Speaker 1: I know it's a pass, so defense is gonna win
Speaker 1: a large majority of the seven on seven I don't agree.
Speaker 1: And then the thing when I played with Troy, he
Speaker 1: used to dominate. When he used to him, Mike and
Speaker 1: av they used to well to to d came. Then
Speaker 1: I agree with you. When someone who was for someone
Speaker 1: who wasn't afraid to tell Michael you ain't catching it.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Before Dion got there, Michael, tell a
Speaker 1: dB and listen, let me let me catch this. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to work on my catching, you know, my
Speaker 1: route running whatever. And then pron got there. Problem to him,
Speaker 1: you can kiss my no, you had to earn this right,
Speaker 1: And then then it became a little bit more competitive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's it's a defensive drill. When you do half line,
Speaker 1: you're gonna pads on. It's a differenceive drill. So all
Speaker 1: the different things you see. I look for the fluidity.
Speaker 1: I looked to see who's moving well. I looked to
Speaker 1: see who's kind of you know, out there and quick
Speaker 1: twitch and all that kind of stuff. But you don't
Speaker 1: really tell I have from watching practice today. Nothing has
Speaker 1: changed about what I know about this football team and
Speaker 1: I do yesterday. So you don't know if they're gonna
Speaker 1: be any better on defense. That's about looking at guys
Speaker 1: running around in shorts. No, ain't nobody making no calls.
Speaker 1: I told you upstairs. It's a lot different to stand
Speaker 1: out here in a practice field and play. And then
Speaker 1: when you got number twelve standing at the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage and he's saying number eleven is the mic and
Speaker 1: number twel I'm talking about number twelve and Tampa band
Speaker 1: do with all those Super Bowl rings. That's the difference.
Speaker 1: When he's saying, oh, he's the mic, and now you said, oh,
Speaker 1: he knows them the mike and he knows what we're in.
Speaker 1: That's when it gets a little bit real to me.
Speaker 1: You know, this is this is fun. It's necessary. It's
Speaker 1: important for them, for the players, for the coaches, fans,
Speaker 1: and for the fans because you're doing a great job
Speaker 1: of discredit and OTAs. No, no, no, OTAs are necessary.
Speaker 1: Yeah they are, y Yeah, but you can't have it
Speaker 1: both ways. Not for for our evaluation. Okay, you can't
Speaker 1: tell a different you. I can't you you can't. You
Speaker 1: can't go out there right now and tell me who's
Speaker 1: going to be the best player on a particularly side
Speaker 1: of the ball. I can. I can name three defensive
Speaker 1: players right now, defensive tackles that's gonna be better than
Speaker 1: Pole was last year. Hell, you can go back out
Speaker 1: there right now, ridiculous knees. And what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: for the fans, it's great to see the guys back
Speaker 1: out there. For the reporters, it's great to kind of
Speaker 1: start drumming up some of your stories. For the coaches,
Speaker 1: it's great to have the players back out there. But
Speaker 1: you really, for some former players, it kind of makes
Speaker 1: you wish you were still playing. It got me last week.
Speaker 1: It got me. Yes, you shared a moment with me upstairs.
Speaker 1: What happened to private private moment that no supposed about? No, no,
Speaker 1: I thought I'd have screwed up told another when uh,
Speaker 1: when we were leaving last week, I stayed and I
Speaker 1: watched some of the practice and and I had that
Speaker 1: feeling come over me again, like like I hadn't had
Speaker 1: that feeling a long time. What feeling is there? Like
Speaker 1: I want to play, but but no, I was I
Speaker 1: was trying to leave. I was trying to leave, and
Speaker 1: my legs wouldn't move, and the hair set up on
Speaker 1: the back of my neck and I got that that
Speaker 1: those butterfly tingly feelings in my stomach, and then drenaline
Speaker 1: started pumping, and I was just like, and I hadn't
Speaker 1: felt that in the law? Would you eat before you
Speaker 1: some bad food? It might have been some I haven't
Speaker 1: had some dreams. Well, I was playing in games and
Speaker 1: woke up and say that was just a dream. I
Speaker 1: got in the car, said to tell myself, Okay, I
Speaker 1: got I know. I got in the car like, what
Speaker 1: the hell was that? But how has it been since you,
Speaker 1: like wanted you had that feeling years years, at least
Speaker 1: five or six years, really, and you don't know why.
Speaker 1: I just it last week. It jumped on me, jumped
Speaker 1: on you think maybe it's because you hadn't like visually
Speaker 1: seen football in person in like over a year, and
Speaker 1: it was like the first time you've been I don't know,
Speaker 1: I like the football. Horny and me went through the roof.
Speaker 1: Anybody got Jim Myers phone, we can call it Psychostrius.
Speaker 1: We gotta fix, called me Jackie. Called back the Jackie.
Speaker 1: We got one over here. And I need this evaluation.
Speaker 1: But I know I came to my senses when I
Speaker 1: got in the car I was driving home. I was like,
Speaker 1: that was weird. And then he went home and looked
Speaker 1: in the mirror and he said, you know what, I
Speaker 1: probably can't play receiver, but I bet I could play safety,
Speaker 1: maybe even a little linebacker down in the box. Safety
Speaker 1: ran through my mind. It did. And then he saw
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow on the TV and he's like, don't laugh
Speaker 1: at me. I mean, what day, Nate, I'm loving this man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had him to own the couch with Jesse. He
Speaker 1: had had he had a problem sticking in the league
Speaker 1: when he was healthy, and he was prime, in his prime,
Speaker 1: and now he's ten years and I was thinking about
Speaker 1: switching positions and going maybe just maybe maybe I was out,
Speaker 1: Maybe I out of position, right right, maybe I should
Speaker 1: have been a see look right, oh man. The only
Speaker 1: way to find out is to find the way these
Speaker 1: tight ends and wide receivers coming back ass tight ends.
Speaker 1: That boy from Florida to change what I'm saying Tebow no, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he didn't change the game, bro, No, no. I came
Speaker 1: to my senses. It was it was one of those
Speaker 1: moments I had the moment. It was a weird felt
Speaker 1: I felt it felt odd, and then by the time
Speaker 1: I got down a toll way, it was like boy, please,
Speaker 1: and then he's like, you know what, I'll be back
Speaker 1: next week to make my ten dollars. And I went
Speaker 1: to workout and I realized, like how I felt after
Speaker 1: a workout, like imagine at it and doing the workout
Speaker 1: one hundred persons. I letn't to see if I can
Speaker 1: do it. Let me see if I can do it.
Speaker 1: I double scooped on on on the pre workout. It
Speaker 1: was like scoop shot yeah. Yeah. It was like red
Speaker 1: Bull and five hours and the pre workout and I
Speaker 1: felt my like, I'm so beat up. I thought I
Speaker 1: was done working out. I was like, now, imagine this
Speaker 1: on top of or two hour practice or on top
Speaker 1: of a training camp times what one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: days or whatever? What's the difference between is there is
Speaker 1: there a difference from a player perspective from OTAs to
Speaker 1: mini camp. OTAs are voluntary, right, Is there any difference
Speaker 1: other than you you have to be here from any
Speaker 1: camp from a is it a harder practice when I played?
Speaker 1: When I played, Uh, we didn't have OTAs. Jimmy Johnson
Speaker 1: brought all of this in. Jimmy Johnson brought all of
Speaker 1: this stuff, you see now, he brought it in. You
Speaker 1: didn't have You had the draft week. You came in
Speaker 1: after the draft about a week or ten days days,
Speaker 1: and after that you started working out as a rookie.
Speaker 1: You didn't even go back home. So, but then when
Speaker 1: mini camp came, it wasn't about no rookies. You got in.
Speaker 1: When you got in, the veterans got that work, you know.
Speaker 1: So and then after that many camp, I think you
Speaker 1: had two if you had a new coach or something,
Speaker 1: and you had a mini camp and then you just
Speaker 1: started working out from that point on. So how was
Speaker 1: it with with y'all? I'm time when out first started,
Speaker 1: they got a little more advanced once we got going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I when I started, it was rookie minicamp after
Speaker 1: the draft. Ye, all rookies come in. Then I was.
Speaker 1: I came in, there was already man, you went to work.
Speaker 1: So now the thing is rookie mini caamp. Now ain't
Speaker 1: nothing to like when I came in. You were full padded.
Speaker 1: Ye two of days, three of days. I was on
Speaker 1: the tail end of the three of days two a
Speaker 1: day era. So you know you had that the difference
Speaker 1: between OTA's an actual mini camp like one. You're still fresh, right,
Speaker 1: You're excited to be playing football a track, you're running
Speaker 1: around training camps. It's real deal, right, Those days begin
Speaker 1: to add up, The days are longer, the practices are harder. Again, Nate,
Speaker 1: you were you had two, there's probably three days dream
Speaker 1: we we we had, we definitely had. We had full
Speaker 1: padded to it. We went to Austin and Coach Jones said, uh,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do for We're not gonna do the
Speaker 1: forty nine US. We're not the forty nine. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be more physical. And so everybody had this kind of
Speaker 1: all like, what do you mean, look in their eyes,
Speaker 1: We're gonna hit. I'm not gonna keep you out there
Speaker 1: more than two hours per practice. You know, at that time,
Speaker 1: the forty niners was going anywhere from two and a
Speaker 1: half the three hours because it's don't pass a lot
Speaker 1: of times, so they're expected for a lot of running,
Speaker 1: a lot of speed. Well, we opened up the first day,
Speaker 1: he said, full pass. Tomorrow we're gonna get We're gonna
Speaker 1: work our way into it. And working our way into
Speaker 1: it was seven on nine, seven on offense, nine on defense.
Speaker 1: Because they brought the safeties, one of the safeties in
Speaker 1: and man, you're talking about a slaughter house for like
Speaker 1: thirty five minutes. I was like, you know what, we
Speaker 1: just got undressed. Nobody said the word you know him.
Speaker 1: After that you everybody said the word, and we're like, okay,
Speaker 1: it can't be this way in the afternoon, Okay, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: The only difference was when we went inside run they
Speaker 1: changed from seven or nine to inside run. Was you
Speaker 1: just didn't tackle the back in the afternoon, they didn't
Speaker 1: changing the boys up front. So I said to myself,
Speaker 1: we all lived at each other and we just shook
Speaker 1: our head and we knew who ever survived. It wasn't
Speaker 1: about making the team. It's like whoever's walking at the
Speaker 1: end of these six weeks would make the team. That's
Speaker 1: how Jimmy was not accented these guys around. He was
Speaker 1: not playing man, he because he knew him and mister
Speaker 1: Jones knew, like, this is not gonna be my team.
Speaker 1: Three years from now, these guys you have on this
Speaker 1: field would not eighty percent of them would not be here.
Speaker 1: So he didn't care. It was like, we're gonna see
Speaker 1: what the toughest guys are. So times have changes. What
Speaker 1: you're saying, Yes, money has finally taken full effect of
Speaker 1: how you treat guys. He said, six weeks do you
Speaker 1: do do six weeks now training camp? It's like four
Speaker 1: weeks we did. We did six weeks three to five,
Speaker 1: and it's only five if you play two weeks before.
Speaker 1: You had a week with w the rookies. Then then
Speaker 1: the veterans came in and you know that next week
Speaker 1: you know, you know it was eight weeks and then
Speaker 1: the next week you get yeah, you get ready for
Speaker 1: you start getting ready for the preseason. Yeah, that's survival, yeah, Lee.
Speaker 1: And see the thing about it was if you moaned
Speaker 1: and groaned and miss practice, Jimmy didn't sale word. It
Speaker 1: was so funny. He just he'll let you get healthy.
Speaker 1: He'll come up to you, man, slick little dude. He
Speaker 1: would come up to you. Hey, y'all right today you
Speaker 1: feel good? Yeah, he'll patch you all on the butt.
Speaker 1: Oh man, he'll run around like a little pub what
Speaker 1: he's practiced in the day. Hey, hey, Rich, go get
Speaker 1: my medical man, he's out of here. Oh, it was
Speaker 1: so funny. I think of Kevin O'Neill. You know, Kevin
Speaker 1: O'Neill wants to do run off the practice. Kevin oornil
Speaker 1: do not let him practice today. Really, so you had
Speaker 1: to play through stuff is with Yeah, and that's why
Speaker 1: when a lot of people ask coach Johnson, will he
Speaker 1: ever come back to coach and he says, I cannot
Speaker 1: be that person again. You couldn't do it that way. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: The thing is he said he could not be that
Speaker 1: He could be that person, but he said he don't
Speaker 1: want to be that person again, because you literally did
Speaker 1: not care if it wasn't your team. You did not
Speaker 1: draft these guys. He did not want you. You had
Speaker 1: to be elite. If anybody that can go in and
Speaker 1: get rid of Damn Marino from Miami Dolphins that I'll
Speaker 1: tell you something, all right, fas, let's take our first
Speaker 1: break a lot to get to today. I want to
Speaker 1: know if y'all are worried about the backup quarterback situation,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, because there's three we have one there, well,
Speaker 1: there's three guys that we're all very familiar with that.
Speaker 1: I think we had all three of them last year
Speaker 1: and I think two, maybe all three of them played,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if any one of them really
Speaker 1: stuck that. Let's talk about Blake Jarwin hopefully getting back
Speaker 1: out on the field. And I want to talk to
Speaker 1: y'all about coach Quinn Jesse. You and I talked about
Speaker 1: this a little bit upstairs. What your expectations are from
Speaker 1: the defense and if you think that he can really
Speaker 1: make a difference. I saw he got hiptows earlier, one
Speaker 1: of them, Big Laman Hiptoss. He was out there with
Speaker 1: his hat turn around backwards and after he had to
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Speaker 1: let's do quarterback. Um, this is a very simple and
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Speaker 1: It's a very simple topic. Let me read very easy topic.
Speaker 1: Read these names for you. Okay, that quarterback right now?
Speaker 1: On the roster, we have Dak Prescott, yeah, QB one,
Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert and half Benda Nucci and Cooper Rush. Remember
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush. Yeah he's back. He's back. Wow. So those
Speaker 1: are our guys. So if Dad goes down, how do
Speaker 1: you feel about the backup? We don't know no more,
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, how do we feel about the backup quarterback spot?
Speaker 1: Are we good? I think they brought in Brett Hunley
Speaker 1: and Jeff Driscoll for visits, but they didn't sign either
Speaker 1: one of them. So it is the season, I mean,
Speaker 1: let's be real. Ninety five percent of the teams. If
Speaker 1: your quarterback goes down, your ding ding ding ding ding dinging.
Speaker 1: Unless you have any elite defense and an elite offense
Speaker 1: your your seasons, you're not going deep in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: nick Foles. So it doesn't even matter, is it is?
Speaker 1: It doesn't even matter. It doesn't matter. Okay, the Nick
Speaker 1: Foles scenario that happened to Philly when Carson Wentz went down,
Speaker 1: Like people fail to realize in those moments, like Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz was literally on the cusp of being league MVP
Speaker 1: that year. Like nick Fole didn't get him to that point, right,
Speaker 1: Like nick nick Fole didn't get him to the buy
Speaker 1: in the first round. Nick Fole didn't. Yes, he performed
Speaker 1: well in the playoffs and actually got him to a
Speaker 1: super Bowl. I get it, granted, that's an anomaly that
Speaker 1: that is not the norm you set ninety five percent.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go ninety nine of the NFL teams
Speaker 1: in the league. If QB one goes down, you're up
Speaker 1: Doodle's creek with no paddle and a hole in your boat.
Speaker 1: It's just you. It's like you wasted your time. You
Speaker 1: want you here's what you want to hope you want
Speaker 1: to hope that whatever injury that your quarterback has sustained,
Speaker 1: it isn't long term. And your hope is that I
Speaker 1: can somehow, some way put a guy in there that
Speaker 1: can manufacture Benji acture or hold the line to maybe
Speaker 1: one or two games. I am extremely and overly blessed
Speaker 1: if he goes too and oh, I am elated and overjoyed.
Speaker 1: If he goes one and one, I'm expecting him to
Speaker 1: go oh and two. Even when you see a player
Speaker 1: greatest big band with Pittsburgh leving and oh and once
Speaker 1: they figured him out, look how the season went, and
Speaker 1: that was a great player. Now he is you know,
Speaker 1: that was a great player. So just take a guy
Speaker 1: just off the street. And basically these are what these
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are. Even though there's some of them coming from college,
Speaker 1: they have basically off the street, don't have no experience
Speaker 1: last year. It's kind of like you're just spending your wheels.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say wasting your time, because some
Speaker 1: guys grew from last year, but it's kind of like
Speaker 1: you're wasting your time because you just knowing your heart,
Speaker 1: you're not going anywhere and going if that goes down
Speaker 1: for a season ending injury. Let me knock on wood.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not saying that he is. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: if it happens, I don't care who the backup is.
Speaker 1: You ain't winning. I don't care who the backup is.
Speaker 1: We had a we had a backup here last year
Speaker 1: who had a ton of NFL starts, a ton of
Speaker 1: NFL starts. What do you do he's actually is he starting?
Speaker 1: Where do he goes? Chica? Chicago? He starts? Is he
Speaker 1: gonna start for a little bit til they get ah?
Speaker 1: Who they got fields? Is that? Yeah? Justin Fields? Get
Speaker 1: him ready to Nick Foles. And so you had a
Speaker 1: backup that's actually was was picked up by someone to
Speaker 1: be a temporary starter and still couldn't win games. So
Speaker 1: you're just just you're saying it doesn't matter backups. You
Speaker 1: just need a body out there to hopefully maintain to
Speaker 1: your starter can get back right again. Yes, okay, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe he can come in, and you know, if it
Speaker 1: happens in the first half and come back in and
Speaker 1: cold the fort for the second half and pull out
Speaker 1: of victory. So don't go spend big buck on the
Speaker 1: backup guy. Just roll with one of these guys and
Speaker 1: hope they can sustain you in the same man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm not gonna say. I said I
Speaker 1: was a little harsh at the beginning, like this season
Speaker 1: there's a waste of time, but it's not. It's not
Speaker 1: a waste of time because some people grow within the season.
Speaker 1: But as far as you trying to get into the playoffs,
Speaker 1: it would be a miracle. And people people always here's
Speaker 1: the funny. I love this part. People will always always
Speaker 1: throw the whole Matt cast onto the mix, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you someone will tweat me, well what about
Speaker 1: Matt Cassel when Tom Brady went down? But people, it's
Speaker 1: like the Bible verse that people say, it's not it
Speaker 1: ain't ain't in corner yet, curse not people. People don't
Speaker 1: say money is the root of all evil, and it's
Speaker 1: absolutely wrong. It's wrong. Bible doesn't say that the love
Speaker 1: of money. They leave that part out and they'll go
Speaker 1: Matt Castle, what about him here? And I go, they
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs, They've worse that team did not
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs, and even worse, he came here
Speaker 1: and was worse. So like the same man, Castle Castle
Speaker 1: one ten eleven game whatever, they don't go to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: so off or not. You know what I'm saying, if
Speaker 1: you if it, I forgot what coach said it. You
Speaker 1: don't coach for backup quarterbacks. If you get to the
Speaker 1: point you gotta get the backup quarterback, your season is screwed.
Speaker 1: Period and you you you come to the point where
Speaker 1: you're just trying to hold on. You're trying to hold
Speaker 1: on because your playbook goals from this to this and
Speaker 1: knowledge and ability because guess what if he had the
Speaker 1: knowledge and the ability, guess what he'd be starting, he'd
Speaker 1: be starting. So the backup for me, we we we
Speaker 1: make a big deal. Blaine Gabbert, Cooper, Rush, bend Nucci,
Speaker 1: bend Hucci. I don't doesn't make a difference. If four
Speaker 1: goes down, we're going to Mexico. I didn't book the
Speaker 1: trip this year. We're going still. If four goes down,
Speaker 1: we are going in to buddies in Mexico. Now, but
Speaker 1: what the part of Mexico I'm going ain't too lavish,
Speaker 1: but we can party. I don't know if you should
Speaker 1: say that. History says you shouldn't say that. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying maybe I don't know. Are you offering to take
Speaker 1: us to Mexico, Jesse if four goes down, or we
Speaker 1: just gotta Derek the show down there? If Derek starts
Speaker 1: painting by the word, sure, Oh my god, wow, you
Speaker 1: could make a penny of word and be rich. Y.
Speaker 1: I'm taking out of Mexico though. All right, So in
Speaker 1: the part I'm taking you to, you're really gonna live large.
Speaker 1: You're saying there's no beach there. You're like, it's some beach. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's it's plenty of beach, But I don't know if
Speaker 1: you can begetting on it at all these That is
Speaker 1: the only nice place in this spot. It is that
Speaker 1: the coast, you know, Other than that when you go
Speaker 1: a little are you going on this trip? I went
Speaker 1: this past year. I don't think I'm going back. It's
Speaker 1: what part of Mexico I can't even remember. Man, it
Speaker 1: was rap by saying, did you yeah that pictures that? Maybe? Oh?
Speaker 1: Is that when you drove? Yeah? Okay, just random stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's here's here's here's why we love Nate. We will
Speaker 1: ask me, I don't know what you were talking about,
Speaker 1: IM like Mexico? What is we will talking about? We
Speaker 1: will ask Nate to do stuff with us, and we
Speaker 1: won't hear anything from him, and he's in our own
Speaker 1: building and he's doing his own thing, and we like want,
Speaker 1: like it'd be cool to hang out with Nate and
Speaker 1: just talk and bond, and we don't any good dude
Speaker 1: to be around. He's super duper funny, right, some days
Speaker 1: he has he has his bad days where he's grumpy, old,
Speaker 1: crusty Nate and you just don't want to have anything
Speaker 1: to do with even most part he's he's jolly, he's
Speaker 1: the jolly Nate and he's the James way more funnier
Speaker 1: and candidate off oh oh yeah, oh yeah. When the
Speaker 1: filter's off, he's yeah. So, you know, we wanted to
Speaker 1: hang out with Nate, we don't hear anything from him.
Speaker 1: And then just out of the blue, you know, when
Speaker 1: the off season, when we're not having a show or anything,
Speaker 1: you just start getting random pictures from Nate and it's
Speaker 1: like of state signs, and he starts like on the
Speaker 1: East coast and you get one of like Florida, and
Speaker 1: then you get one of Alabama, then one of you know,
Speaker 1: miss Mississippi, Louisiana, and then all of a sudden it's
Speaker 1: like I'm in San Diego. And then it's like, like,
Speaker 1: what do you do it? I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: came down here to have much with a buddy. And
Speaker 1: then and then three hours later you get another text
Speaker 1: message back in California. And then the next day it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got home at like you know, three o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning. He just drives like that, like let's keep running,
Speaker 1: like I just thought it running. Yeah, like Nate, just
Speaker 1: get start driving. Don't you know what's so funny? Man?
Speaker 1: I think I told you this is man is when
Speaker 1: I came back from Mexico. Huh. That lady the officer
Speaker 1: who take everybody else, they just took a picture of
Speaker 1: the car, got their license, wrote down in licensed them
Speaker 1: and let them go. So she got mine. She said, sir,
Speaker 1: how you know I'm doing all right now? So you've
Speaker 1: been to Mexicans, Yes, sir, yes, ma'am. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: So how long did you stay? I said? Two hours?
Speaker 1: We need you pull over to the ring us over
Speaker 1: here where the dogs. I had a dollar a dog.
Speaker 1: Hey here, guys actually checked me, you know, I said,
Speaker 1: you want me to sit here because I'm like, ain't wait,
Speaker 1: you want me to just say, just sit right here,
Speaker 1: everything's fine, I said, Oh, man, I look up under
Speaker 1: the sea. Uh that is hey in there. Pick it up.
Speaker 1: So you had a dog crazy no dog, no dog,
Speaker 1: and and you went to Mexico for two hours, came
Speaker 1: back and you're wondering why they got customs. She looked
Speaker 1: at me even when she gave me my license back.
Speaker 1: She handed them to me, and she was just looking
Speaker 1: at me. Sir, your license plate says Texas. Yes, ma'am
Speaker 1: wildly texts nine. Yeah, yeah, And Jesus looked at me
Speaker 1: when I pulled off, I looked back. I'm still looking
Speaker 1: at it like I can't believe me. Texas for two hours,
Speaker 1: two or three hours with the dog crate and hay
Speaker 1: and no dog, yeah, and no horse. So random. That's
Speaker 1: why you ain't even have a many horse. Like many
Speaker 1: horse gonna be like the size of a dog. Right
Speaker 1: all right, before we go to break, since we're on
Speaker 1: the offense, man, this show has been all over the
Speaker 1: place already, and we still the last section. Your story
Speaker 1: about having hay and a dog crate and Tijuana for
Speaker 1: three hours way more interesting. I agree. I agree. CBS
Speaker 1: Sports came out with a little fun little uh. Rankings
Speaker 1: and we all love rankings. Put the hay and a dog,
Speaker 1: because you know what the dog. You know some if
Speaker 1: you get a pup about to learn to use the restaurom.
Speaker 1: You know, some dogs and used to trapping, they'll throw
Speaker 1: up and all that stuff is settled down in the
Speaker 1: hay and they can stay on top of the head.
Speaker 1: And some dogs smart to move it around so they'll
Speaker 1: be comfortable so they don't wall around in their mess.
Speaker 1: But you didn't have a dog. I don't have a dog. No,
Speaker 1: did you have a dog when the trip started? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: So why the hell did you have a crate with
Speaker 1: hay in it? I thought I may have may have
Speaker 1: got a dog from it. Oh, and then I didn't
Speaker 1: so because he didn't have any when you went to
Speaker 1: see you? But your buddy, all right, So you knew
Speaker 1: people in Mexico. Yeah, I've heard of him. Oh, I've
Speaker 1: heard of him. What kind of thing? I have a
Speaker 1: phone trying to get the guy. Does the guy have
Speaker 1: a name? You don't have a name? You have so fish?
Speaker 1: This sounds this sounds so shady. Nobody I wanted to
Speaker 1: meet him. Did you have to meet somebody before you
Speaker 1: could have him. He could have came over and and
Speaker 1: he could have came to San Diego. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: I had to overcome our fields of Mexico. Okay, So
Speaker 1: that's why I did it. So you over because not
Speaker 1: so much, you get it, doll, But it's overcome my
Speaker 1: fears of Mexico. Why are you scared of Mexico because
Speaker 1: everybody always said bad things about Mexico, especially the border cities. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean read a lot about it. You got the
Speaker 1: violence and stuff. Yeah, and it ain't it ain't like that,
Speaker 1: you know, if you you know? Because I asked to
Speaker 1: do it, I'm like, man, I was really nervous about coming.
Speaker 1: He said. The problem here, he said, the only problem
Speaker 1: you ever have is when you try to be a savior.
Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean, Well, if somebody over
Speaker 1: there getting beat up, that ain't your business. Okay, noted, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta worry about me? King it ran over all, right, CBS,
Speaker 1: this is going down. This is CBS sport is getting
Speaker 1: rank the Cowboys current triplets. Uh, dak Zeke and Amar.
Speaker 1: Does that offend you? What rank the current triplets? Oh? No,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's have fun. Okay, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you were, Yeah, you were a part of that triplets. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They ranked the current triplets, dak Zeke and amar. I
Speaker 1: guess Jesse's asking if if them calling them the triplets,
Speaker 1: if that upsets you, No, No, had they earned the
Speaker 1: right to even have a whole day. That's who they are?
Speaker 1: I mean that, you know me, I don't care because
Speaker 1: I don't care because as long as people say triplets,
Speaker 1: we know what they're talking about. So it's kind of
Speaker 1: like a hat tip tip Yeah, the old guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because anyone you know he said, you know the original
Speaker 1: ad we know who that is. You know, it ain't Mike,
Speaker 1: ain't Mike for me, as Drew, you know. Number twelve
Speaker 1: is Roger. It ain't nobody else. That's Roger. Okay, Number
Speaker 1: nine is Tony who who I'm just you know, I
Speaker 1: Messi Nate. I like him. I like Messi Ate and
Speaker 1: everybody else get cuts. That's a fact, all right. So
Speaker 1: they rank dak Zeke and Amari is the third best
Speaker 1: trifecta or trio in the league, behind Kansas City Mahomes, Edwards,
Speaker 1: Hilaire and Kelsey, and behind the Packers, Rogers, Jones, and Adams.
Speaker 1: Do you guys agree They also ranked the Giants eighteenth,
Speaker 1: Washington nineteenth, Philly twenty eighth. Do you agree with them
Speaker 1: being the third best? I don't think you can. I
Speaker 1: don't think you can argue putting him ahead of either
Speaker 1: one of those in front of him, Kansas City Mahomes, Edwards,
Speaker 1: Hilaire and Kelsey, and then the Packers Rogers, Jones and Adams.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you got the first and second best
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league, it's hard to argue. And those guys.
Speaker 1: Kelsey's a beast, which is interesting because he's a tight
Speaker 1: end and not a receiver that they put him in there.
Speaker 1: And then Edwards Claire like, I mean, his season was
Speaker 1: off through the roof, you know, and then you got
Speaker 1: Jones and Adams and the Packers maybe man Jones came
Speaker 1: alone ways this year. Yeah, I mean, what do y'all think?
Speaker 1: Y'all think? I think I think it's valid. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think three is a good spot. You think that's too
Speaker 1: high for a team that had the rucket. They had,
Speaker 1: no sir, they didn't have very good record for them
Speaker 1: to be there. That says that people respect them, right,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, is there is there another trio
Speaker 1: in the league? You know, could you Russell Wilson, Lockett mate, Now,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the guys in because you're going quarterback, running
Speaker 1: back and receiver and receiver. Maybe maybe after last year
Speaker 1: the Chargers with Rubert and Herbert and Keenan Allen no
Speaker 1: Eckler kind of messes that up then and Herbert does too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's on the rise, but he hadn't kind of cut.
Speaker 1: He hadn't got there yet. I was thinking, but he
Speaker 1: got hurt. Maybe Baker, Uh Chubb and Odell. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a good Yeah. Baker kind of throws you off
Speaker 1: and throws it off a little bit for me for
Speaker 1: that one. Trying to think of Tampa. They got it,
Speaker 1: they got a rink right, they got a rank right,
Speaker 1: they got that rink right, or you know what, I
Speaker 1: know he retired, but Breeze, Kamara and Thomas not the
Speaker 1: way Breeze finished now and he was hurt most of
Speaker 1: the year. Now, what would you say, Chris Tampa. You
Speaker 1: got Brady, You've got the guy from LSU, the running back,
Speaker 1: and then you've got number thirteen, the big wide receiver,
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette and Evans Fournette kind of throws me off
Speaker 1: on that one a little bit because you want you
Speaker 1: want to get playoff like playoff Lenny. Okay yea. But
Speaker 1: for the most part, it was Ronald Jones all year.
Speaker 1: That's right. He was a guy that was getting most
Speaker 1: of the snaps all year. Didn't playoff Lenny happened. It
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, that's the guy that we remember
Speaker 1: from LSU. I'm gonna tell you what, man, the two
Speaker 1: quarter act is what sells it both for the two groups. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you can say Tampa because they quarterback. Man.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine though, I'll tell you what. I think
Speaker 1: it's fair because if Dak would have stayed healthy last year,
Speaker 1: he was gonna put up probably record numbers or close
Speaker 1: to record numbers for the Cowboys. And then you know Zeke,
Speaker 1: I think he makes Zeke better. And then Amari, you
Speaker 1: know that's Zeke's gonna have a redemptive year. I think
Speaker 1: so too. I think your boys back this year that
Speaker 1: don't keep that mark, that mark that was Kirk. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what if he if he does not have
Speaker 1: a if he doesn't have a bounce back year, when
Speaker 1: he won't bounce back at all. Believe he won't bounce
Speaker 1: back with this team. What you mean if he don't
Speaker 1: bounce back next year? He yeah, it ain't because he's
Speaker 1: not in shape. Old boy is in shape, Like, that's
Speaker 1: not gonna be a question this year. He looks he
Speaker 1: looks fit, so hopefully he's he had a little birth,
Speaker 1: he had one, a little run. He took off on
Speaker 1: a dB a little burst. Tell you, let me ask you.
Speaker 1: Let's do it after the break. Let's take a break.
Speaker 1: I got a question about players looking in shape? Does
Speaker 1: it matter? Does it matter what a guy physically looks
Speaker 1: like if he's ripped, Like if you watch the UFC,
Speaker 1: you see a guy that's over there and he's jacked
Speaker 1: and he's got six packs, and then a guy that's
Speaker 1: fat and sloppy just comes in there and just wallops him.
Speaker 1: Does it doesn't matter in the NFL what you look like?
Speaker 1: And then let's talk about Randy Gregory and then uh,
Speaker 1: coach Quinn if we have time for all that. If not,
Speaker 1: then you'll just have to tune in next week to
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Speaker 1: What you got, net? That's a nice watch, Jesse? I
Speaker 1: saw that watch Man? That's pretty neat? Is that that?
Speaker 1: That doesn't look like practice squad? Money? That looks like
Speaker 1: that show? Either? That looks like real money? Why are
Speaker 1: you for you? Yeah? Why that that doesn't I'm bringing
Speaker 1: too much attention to me, y'all know I rolled on
Speaker 1: my Wait a minute, we're bringing too much attention to Jesse.
Speaker 1: What does Jesse do every single show on Twitter? And
Speaker 1: we're bringing too much? And never I never post. If
Speaker 1: you go back and look at all of my Twitter history,
Speaker 1: I've never post possessions. I've never posed or talked about money.
Speaker 1: You post pictures of guns all the time. Never these
Speaker 1: two Right now, I'm about saying I never post pictures
Speaker 1: of guns because I don't want them. I don't want
Speaker 1: to file one by that. I'm talking about your all
Speaker 1: these right here, those pythons, those yeah, look at him
Speaker 1: looking for the right camera so it looks more swollen
Speaker 1: areas there is. That's the Jesse we know and love. Now,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm attention. Bring some you know what
Speaker 1: I would love? We probably need to put them get
Speaker 1: up in hand. We need to put a Twitter poll
Speaker 1: out because we all like Jesse. Yes, because we know Jesse,
Speaker 1: we know Jesse's heart, we know how is right, and
Speaker 1: we have a lot of off air conversations and we
Speaker 1: know Jesse personally, and we we like Jesse. Jesse's a
Speaker 1: good dude. But you could come off arrogant, self center,
Speaker 1: self absorbed. Wi me MEMI. So I wonder if like
Speaker 1: our if our fans have bonded with Jesse like we have,
Speaker 1: and they really enjoy Jesse and understand Jesse for the
Speaker 1: human being the person he is, or if they just
Speaker 1: think that he's this jerk that talks a lot. I
Speaker 1: can care less as long as the people that matter
Speaker 1: to me know why, you know what, If more people
Speaker 1: had that attitude, the world will be here a better place.
Speaker 1: No Joe. Somewhere along the line, humanity lost itself. Yes,
Speaker 1: I agree, And we've gotten to a point where you
Speaker 1: care more about what other people think about what you
Speaker 1: think about yourself. We like the thing that I don't
Speaker 1: understand what we at. People wear big watches. We've allowed concealment,
Speaker 1: We've allowed this device of the apps that go along
Speaker 1: with it to have way too much, say so much value.
Speaker 1: I if you think it's all about cloud for one
Speaker 1: iota of a second, be careful because we do have
Speaker 1: fans on the show. We don't want to run them
Speaker 1: all off. We're not gonna run them off. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: because I, first of all, I'm probably the most interactive
Speaker 1: person out of this entire group combined with people. That's
Speaker 1: including Chris, that's including everybody. Ever. Yes, I love the interaction.
Speaker 1: I love our fans, I love the people I like.
Speaker 1: I speak to people all the time. Agree if anyone,
Speaker 1: let me say this, let's let's just be a that's
Speaker 1: the camera. Let this be a PSA and this should
Speaker 1: this should be for a lot of people. If you
Speaker 1: think for one second, you think for one second that I,
Speaker 1: me Jesse Holley, cares about what people think about me
Speaker 1: who don't even know me, who I don't know from
Speaker 1: a can of paint, You're sadly mistaken. Not only will
Speaker 1: I not care like understand, like this is an app.
Speaker 1: These are apps that goes on this phone. Right, just
Speaker 1: as fast as I added the app to this phone,
Speaker 1: I can delete the app from this phone. Can you? Though?
Speaker 1: Could you delete Twitter today? If you had too? If
Speaker 1: Twitter was causing me some sort of strain or strife,
Speaker 1: it would be gone. Really, you have that kind of
Speaker 1: willpower you could do. He don't if that was causing
Speaker 1: me pain, But would you know it was causing you pain?
Speaker 1: Until he said all the stories you've told us, you
Speaker 1: should have been past those those issues, and you still
Speaker 1: have those issues. So because my dad left me, no
Speaker 1: and other things you've told us. When he took your
Speaker 1: your your basketball number, you about cried and how to fit,
Speaker 1: you still bother about it. You sit up there and
Speaker 1: watch Smith said, this numbers a part of who I am.
Speaker 1: You sit up and you watched the guy's practice for
Speaker 1: five minutes. I was standing up, which I thought someone
Speaker 1: something wrong with Jesse. When I'm like, I'm more standing
Speaker 1: there for a little bit with I'm like, wow, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't want to leave you on the port. Yeah
Speaker 1: he had to go because he's he didn't care. Don't
Speaker 1: stop caused Jesse exactly. So my biggest grapple Jason Witton.
Speaker 1: Biggest grapple, Jason Witton, you let people on social media
Speaker 1: run you from a five million dollars year job. Are
Speaker 1: you crazy? If they bade me five million dollars a year?
Speaker 1: You can say whatever the hell you want about what
Speaker 1: an app for people who I do not know? I
Speaker 1: don't know these people? What about the people you do know?
Speaker 1: You care what they think? No? I really don't like.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I got really when you when you
Speaker 1: have a sense of righteousness and ain't somebody the ignorancy
Speaker 1: or the arrogance because he ain't that way. I'm telling
Speaker 1: when you have a sense of right you and you
Speaker 1: a sense of fair play, you don't worry right, it's
Speaker 1: it's confidence and it's like knowing you who you are
Speaker 1: and being comfortable blasting the person to blast person. I
Speaker 1: totally agree with that. More people should be Uh what
Speaker 1: the Jaylen Smith? Yesterday? Did you do? The Yeah? I
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Great conversation right outside there when uh, yesterday
Speaker 1: I came over right, So when you were up here
Speaker 1: after we invited you to come watch practice and you
Speaker 1: didn't even say hi. Two days in a Row. Well,
Speaker 1: you're here yesterday talking to Scott. You know you talked
Speaker 1: to Scott. Yeah, he had look see your emotional right now,
Speaker 1: that's why you see that. You see that bothered you?
Speaker 1: Your emotional I really don't care your emotional. So what
Speaker 1: what did you and Jayalen talk? Did you tell him
Speaker 1: you've been for the last two days? Come? Man, is
Speaker 1: this a true story? I said? Yeah, okay, no, seriously,
Speaker 1: this is a true story. Yesterday He'll tell Philms on
Speaker 1: this show. No, I'm not about just be here. Okay,
Speaker 1: I say, Jaylen, because I was talking to a Doug
Speaker 1: and this was up. I was talking to Where did
Speaker 1: you see Jalen? Right down here outside? In what time?
Speaker 1: Around about one o'clock to o'clock? All right, I said, Jayleen?
Speaker 1: Come in, man, I say, I've been bashing you. I've
Speaker 1: not said nothing positive about you in a year, a
Speaker 1: year or two. I said, Man, refocus, man, I say
Speaker 1: give me something that I can ride on with you. Brother,
Speaker 1: I say, please, I say, I remember you three years ago. Bro,
Speaker 1: can we get that jailer? He's I promise you you're
Speaker 1: gonna get it, man, I said, knowledge Aden, for real,
Speaker 1: He's I promise you all I said, I'm serious now,
Speaker 1: I mean he was happy, you know, just the same
Speaker 1: great kid that I always see. And then he went
Speaker 1: over there and it was the orange stick on his card,
Speaker 1: said the sticker. He said, they always get me bad
Speaker 1: about practice. He took the sticker through it in the
Speaker 1: backseat like most. Oh, yes, I told him, you've been bashing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good for you. Yeah, man, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something. And that's why I understand who Jesse is,
Speaker 1: because when you when you when you were just telling
Speaker 1: the truth, and you're you know, not trying to hang
Speaker 1: a guy out. Now. Sometimes I joke like that done Terry,
Speaker 1: he'll called him in. Man, you've been bashed me, Yes,
Speaker 1: I have, and probably I probably bashed you worshing anybody
Speaker 1: because I bragged on you worst than anybody. I remember
Speaker 1: how just hey, many are gonna eat the pol chops
Speaker 1: and we eat baking together, all these fat jokes and
Speaker 1: having fun. Actually did yeah, like we did a little
Speaker 1: too much of it, you know. And so don't don't
Speaker 1: don't try to. I ain't never believe in that because
Speaker 1: I used to read the paper and I used to member.
Speaker 1: They used to say about me. It's some guys that
Speaker 1: said things, and I'm like, it don't matter now because
Speaker 1: I made the team. But there's some guys everything like
Speaker 1: ain't away and this this dude gonna make the same
Speaker 1: Tom I'm that never kept a dude this size, and
Speaker 1: it's some people that I'm close to nine. But I
Speaker 1: knew a long time ago. They have a job to do,
Speaker 1: and my job is to show you that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: change your opinion on what you think about fat guys,
Speaker 1: because member, we said we're gonna talk about guys that
Speaker 1: don't look like it. I was one of the guys
Speaker 1: that did not look like of six to five two
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five pounds dude. I was six to
Speaker 1: three hundred and forty five pounds. I was a total
Speaker 1: officer of what they had around him. Six Pro bowls
Speaker 1: than it worked out. It worked out all right. Well,
Speaker 1: now that we bashed Jesse and we bashed Jalen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's end on a positive. We weren't bashing you. By
Speaker 1: the way. I know that you don't care because you
Speaker 1: just told me you really don't care what we think.
Speaker 1: Don't when I start caring when they start cutting me checks.
Speaker 1: When they started cutting the checks, that's what I don't care.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, so Jesse loves money. So that's what the
Speaker 1: Bible was talking about. You threw it back on your
Speaker 1: Jess the money. I love to earn my money. Good point,
Speaker 1: so different one. Okay, you don't want to hand it
Speaker 1: to you? What do you think? What if you won
Speaker 1: the lottery? You don't never at least because you don't,
Speaker 1: because you don't play ever happen because you don't play it.
Speaker 1: God will never let me win the lottery. Never. You
Speaker 1: would do so much good, though, Jesse, you do so
Speaker 1: much bad. Me too, that's all. I would do so
Speaker 1: much good, but I would do a ton of good,
Speaker 1: and so many folks would be blessed, not bad to people.
Speaker 1: Bad for me, Yeah, for me, for me personally. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'd still do this show. I can see Jess now
Speaker 1: man Jesse's trailer park and all welcome free. Opal you
Speaker 1: have a trailer park franchise sponsored a trailer park tour,
Speaker 1: but Jesse Holly FunTown RV trailer park tour, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: park near you? Yes, Oh my goodness. All right, let
Speaker 1: me at least get to one of these points. We
Speaker 1: have three, we have three minutes, so yes, Dan, Quinn.
Speaker 1: Great sounds like he's going to utilize a three four defense,
Speaker 1: right or did you see that? Jess? That's what you know.
Speaker 1: I thought it was four to three, sorry for three?
Speaker 1: Do you guys like that move? Is there an advantage
Speaker 1: to that? And then my my big question is will
Speaker 1: he as a coach and has a presence in that
Speaker 1: locker room and in that defensive team meeting room does
Speaker 1: his presence make a difference. Let me answer your second
Speaker 1: question first, okay, and then we'll answer your first question second.
Speaker 1: And this is fresh off the press our good friend
Speaker 1: James Later of course, she was out of practice today
Speaker 1: and they has him and he was in the locker
Speaker 1: room newly signed defensive end here Terrell Basham, he had
Speaker 1: this to say about um working with Dan Quinn. So
Speaker 1: I love working with Dan, He says that. Uh says
Speaker 1: he heard how into the defensive line he was. He says,
Speaker 1: Quinn and coaches all work together to help to help
Speaker 1: him recognize things about hisself habits good or bad. Like
Speaker 1: he never knew he took a bad angle until now.
Speaker 1: So he's saying, like Terrell bash Like, I didn't know
Speaker 1: if it's a bad angle until now. I started working
Speaker 1: with dan Quinn, and you and I had the conversation
Speaker 1: about dan Quinn. Every player on the football field is
Speaker 1: a gifted. Now there's levels to that gift. The coach's
Speaker 1: job is to get the elite level players to be
Speaker 1: elite at a consistent level. His job is all so
Speaker 1: to get the players that are not elite to play
Speaker 1: above their abilities at a consistent level. See flashing at
Speaker 1: any point in time offense, defensive, special team is bad
Speaker 1: in football. To be a flash player is to be
Speaker 1: a bad player. It makes you you can't be dependent
Speaker 1: upon because I don't know what you're gonna do when
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it. You're a potential guy, not a performer.
Speaker 1: And so coaching brings out the best in guys and
Speaker 1: the best coaches. And Aaron Rodger, we're talking about this
Speaker 1: relationships and everything that you hear about dan Quinn is
Speaker 1: about his relationship with guys. And when you have a relationship,
Speaker 1: and Nate, I know you can attest to this because
Speaker 1: one of the one of the most tightest nick groups
Speaker 1: of all football groups is old line, and it's talking
Speaker 1: with their old line coach. Yes, and when you when
Speaker 1: you believe in your old line, coach, what he's saying,
Speaker 1: what he's preaching, what he's teaching. Not only do you
Speaker 1: take on that personality, but you're willing to go above
Speaker 1: and beyond to make sure that the guy who's calling
Speaker 1: the shots for your group is right. And so for
Speaker 1: dan Quinn being a defensive coordinated but also working with
Speaker 1: each individual guy, he's building that relationship with players that
Speaker 1: are going to get guys to play above their normal
Speaker 1: talent level and then you get the elite guys to
Speaker 1: play at a more consistent level at their elite level.
Speaker 1: And he's going to get you to run through a
Speaker 1: wall for him, and that matters. That matters. One of
Speaker 1: the reasons why you saw a lot of that freestyle
Speaker 1: and a lot of that doing my own thing and
Speaker 1: whatever they call I'm gonna do something opposite. They didn't believe,
Speaker 1: they didn't believe in that coach, They didn't respect that coach,
Speaker 1: that that that that there wasn't a relationship there with
Speaker 1: that coach. And I think early on you're seeing dan
Speaker 1: Quinn have an effect on a lot of these players
Speaker 1: on the defenside of ball of saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: this is a guy I can get behind, and when
Speaker 1: you have players in this league because they can. You can.
Speaker 1: When you become a man, you can start seeting through
Speaker 1: a lot of that bull crap quick. And if you
Speaker 1: bull crapping me I coach or not, I ain't really
Speaker 1: fooling with you, because we got too much on the
Speaker 1: line for you to be bull crapping me. My future
Speaker 1: is on the line here. This is how I feed
Speaker 1: my family, this is how I feed every this is
Speaker 1: how I do my deal. So if you're bull crapping me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do just what I'm supposed to do and
Speaker 1: nothing more, especially if I'm a player that got some
Speaker 1: cash in the locker room and some cash on this team.
Speaker 1: But if I know you man, you're a man and
Speaker 1: I'm a man, and you come at me like a man,
Speaker 1: and we have that relationship like men, you can get
Speaker 1: me to do anything for you, and I'm gonna believe
Speaker 1: in what you tell me. I'm gonna believe in what
Speaker 1: you teach me, and I'm gonna go out there and
Speaker 1: do my very best to give you everything that you
Speaker 1: need so that you can be successful and I can
Speaker 1: be successful. And I think I think that's happening with
Speaker 1: dan Quinn. A lot of these guys on this defense.
Speaker 1: You know, I agree, man, I agree because and more importantly,
Speaker 1: not only getting a guy who's not elite to play
Speaker 1: at a certain level, to get him to accept his
Speaker 1: role and love it. And that's when you really when
Speaker 1: coaches start sending in certain situations, we want this guy
Speaker 1: because this guy know who he is and know what
Speaker 1: he does well. You see that a lot in basketball
Speaker 1: when you have three elite level players. They don't have
Speaker 1: money for the rest, but they got certain guys that
Speaker 1: can do certain things real well and when they come
Speaker 1: in the game, they try to master at all times.
Speaker 1: And that's what coach Quinn is gonna do right here
Speaker 1: because we're not we don't have a lot of them
Speaker 1: money players, as you know, we will say, so we
Speaker 1: gotta get the best out of these guys. He's got
Speaker 1: to he's got to see these guys. That's why training
Speaker 1: camp is so big for coach Quinn to get this
Speaker 1: thing across. So you guys are saying, even before you
Speaker 1: install your system and your game plans and all that,
Speaker 1: you're already you're already seeing buying from players. So you're
Speaker 1: already better off than what you were. Because sounds like
Speaker 1: guys are buying in