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Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Commies a Myth and Bullshit, a radiophonic

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Speaker 1: novella Look Radio, hosted by Malama Locamorrees. Welcome to Season

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Speaker 1: three of Local Radio. Because fem revenge has never sounded

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Speaker 1: so sweet. Look At Radio is a radiophonic novella archiving

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Speaker 1: the legacies and brilliance of women and fems of color.

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Speaker 1: I'm Fiosa and I'm Mala, and we are las Mommies

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Speaker 1: of Myth and Bullshit, last locals of Radio Radio Phonic novela,

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Speaker 1: which is just a really extra way of saying a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Welcome back. It has been a while, and

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Speaker 1: we have missed y'all. Yeah, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: tuning in once again. We took a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a break from recording because we've just been really super

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Speaker 1: fucking busy events and all kinds of other crazy things.

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much for tuning in. And um,

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Speaker 1: I hope you missed us. We missed y'all. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope you missed us. It would be nice if

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Speaker 1: you missed us. But if you're if you're sick of

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Speaker 1: us and you needed a break too, that's also chilled.

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Speaker 1: Ben fine, been fine, whatever, it's cool. Um So, just

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Speaker 1: to get started, we want to remind you all that

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Speaker 1: But I got my first Yoni egg and it's rose

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Speaker 1: At first, I was like, oh my god, how do

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Speaker 1: So as you know, in twenty nineteen, we taught a

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Speaker 1: ton of podcasting one on one workshops at public library

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Speaker 1: branches throughout l A. A lot of fun. So we

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Speaker 1: And who are our beautiful, amazing, gorgeous guests are beautiful

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Speaker 1: and amazing were Cris Soul of Facts and Selenamos and

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Speaker 1: she performed her own set and it was amazing, and

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Speaker 1: then we got to interview her. And then additionally we

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Speaker 1: also interviewed and invited to perform Sancha of Sancha, like

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Speaker 1: the amazing, amazing, amazing performer like the Sancha, the Sancha

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Speaker 1: going to release that interview as a because we have

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Speaker 1: we interviewed Sizzle and Norms for Hispanic Heritage Month, and

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Speaker 1: and you know, the whole show in general was amazing,

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Speaker 1: but I think one of my favorite parts was shaming

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Speaker 1: so that was that was really such a cool thing

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Speaker 1: So yes, and then okay, so like so much to

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Speaker 1: tell y'all. Um. We also guest hosted our guest hosting

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Speaker 1: a mini series with Crooked Media. So we are hosting

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Speaker 1: a mini series called Me, My Self, Care and I,

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Speaker 1: And a part of me feels kind of weird and

426
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: kind of rude feeling that, But then it's also thinking like, well,

427
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: what is it that I want and what is this

428
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: boundary for me? I find feel this type of way

429
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: about my family and what it's like when we're all together.

430
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: Then why am I even inviting everyone over? You know?

431
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: So I set that boundary without even realizing that I

432
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: did it. So I'm proud of me. I think that

433
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: that's for me, what healing looks like is having those

434
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: boundaries and respecting them and not trying to change them

435
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: for myself. Yeah, it's almost like prevention, right. So, like

436
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: if you're on a healing path and you know certain

437
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: experiences are going to set you back or are going

438
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: to trigger things, sometimes setting those boundaries can help prevent,

439
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, like regression. Yeah, because sometimes like you need

440
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: to just not deal with everybody in their nonsense. There's

441
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: there's like this really good meme that I love like

442
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: sharing around Christmas time, and it's this meme of Plankton,

443
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: like from Spongefold and he's like I'll remember you all

444
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: in therapy, and like I truly feel that way around

445
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: the holiday. So it's like, no different for my birthday.

446
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: You know why I put myself through these kinds of things.

447
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: If you don't want to, If I don't really want to,

448
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: you don't have and it's my birthday, I'll do what

449
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: I want, Okay. Healing. I think healing too is like

450
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: oh my god. Um kind of allowing things not to

451
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: work out and then not stressing out over it. Life

452
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: is long, you know, like life is long and kind

453
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: of repetitive and things. There's always a new chance and

454
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 1: a new opportunity in a new situation, and you know,

455
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: see I would say life is short, so new opportunities

456
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: are going to come. I'm saying life is super long,

457
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: and so like I have to reserve my energy and

458
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: my disappointment and my stress so that I can apply

459
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: it to all these different things that are going to

460
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: happen over the course of many decades. You know what

461
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: I mean. That's how I'm feeling. I'm feeling super like

462
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: like with work or something. If something doesn't work out,

463
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: some people are super like, oh my god. Like catastrophizing

464
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: happens a lot when you know, uh, work or a

465
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: project are super important in a person's life. Then if

466
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: something doesn't work out, then it's like a major blow.

467
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: And so I'm trying really hard to put things in perspective.

468
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: And when something doesn't work out, like at work, for example,

469
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: and the folks around me are catastrophizing and are like

470
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: in flames, I'm like, it really doesn't matter. Do not matter?

471
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: It is okay. Literally, we will come back to work

472
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: tomorrow and a whole new set of things are going

473
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: to happen, and we're going to forget what we were

474
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: upset about yesterday. Now do you think that that's more

475
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: for work or do you feel that that's like just

476
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: where you're at in general? Oh, that's totally where I'm

477
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: at in general. I'm like, I do not give a fuck,

478
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, um, about many things because I'm like, in reality,

479
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: we're doing fine and like I'm in a good place.

480
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: And so when there are like things don't go my

481
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: way or like whatever, whatever, it's okay, it's all right.

482
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: You know. That's how I'm trying to approach a healing process,

483
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: by letting things fucking go and not getting upset over

484
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: stuff that are ultimately inconsequential. Right right, Yeah, cool, Thank

485
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: you for sharing them. Those are my thoughts. Okay. So

486
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: final question that we have for today is for Mama,

487
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: and it's about tips ongoing to Morocco. This our listener

488
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: wants to go. So she's wondering if you can offer

489
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: any insight. Yes, okay, So let me preface this by

490
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: saying that all tourism is problematic and all travel, especially

491
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: if you are an American passport holder, is ultimately like

492
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: a mark of privilege and access, And there's all types

493
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: of power and balances that go into traveling as specially

494
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: two countries and um, parts of the world that are

495
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: considered to be like quote the Third World, right or underdeveloped.

496
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: I know, we all fucking know, Okay, Like it's that,

497
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: it's true, that's true. So that being said, here are

498
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: my tips on traveling to Morocco. Um, because I went,

499
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Speaker 1: and I also think it's important that in these conversations

500
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: to also acknowledge, um that, yeah, like there is ultimately

501
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: always a power and balance when we're talking about Americans

502
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: in particular going abroad and spending time and money and

503
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: like navigating different communities because we have like this like

504
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: global political and financial advantage over like locals in most places.

505
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: So like, let me be clear, that's understood, it's established.

506
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: I know this is not like social justice tips or

507
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: how to like do a non problematic trip. I don't

508
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: know how to do that in certain parts of the world.

509
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm not from Morocco. I don't know people in Morocco.

510
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: So I went as purely a tourist, right, like, with

511
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: no special circumstances or adjustments, you know what I mean. Like,

512
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Speaker 1: we stayed in an Airbnb, and a lot of those

513
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: airbnbs ultimately turns out are like managed by Moroccans but

514
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: are owned by like British people or French people, what

515
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: have you. So we stayed in an airbnb and then

516
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: all of the communications you know, Um, for the most part,

517
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: we're with the owners, but then when we got there,

518
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: the owners are not actually there. It's like local Moroccans

519
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: who run the home and who like keep it going.

520
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: And then every time we wanted to take a tour,

521
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: um our host would help us to arrange a tour

522
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: and like a Moroccan tour guide who's like with the

523
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: Ministry of Tourism would come and like arrange for a

524
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: car to come drive us around. And then the tour

525
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: guy would show us the different spots around the medina Um,

526
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: the mosques, the universities, the markets, all that good stuff.

527
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: We went to the tanneries um we saw the spots

528
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: where they do all of their ceramics and their pottery,

529
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: and like everything down there is had made. It was beautiful,

530
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: tons of shopping. We only were in Fez. We didn't

531
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Speaker 1: go anywhere else in Morocco. We did three days and

532
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: it was beautiful. So if you're not staying in an airbnb,

533
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: you know there are hotels, so you can look into

534
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: a hotel. I don't know anything about the hotels, um,

535
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: but we walked around the medina. It was four of

536
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: us for women, and we were fine. We didn't have

537
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: any problems, Like we had a great time and everyone

538
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: was really nice to us and respectful and kind, and

539
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: we did shopping and we talked to people and we

540
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: ate and it was chill, like it was a good time.

541
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: We flew into Fez from um Madrid, so if you're

542
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: going to do a trip out there, it's really not

543
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: um hard to get to Morocco from Spain. Um there

544
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: are flights from Madrid to Fez all the time and

545
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: they're like the flight is like an hour hour and

546
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: a half. So it was pretty chill and you know,

547
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: of course the American dollar like allows for it to

548
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: be pretty affordable for us if we go to Morocco.

549
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: I just recommend like to people well and too people

550
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: high and that's a really I think important way to

551
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: give back. And if you're going to be buying things,

552
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: buy it in cash, not don't put things on your card,

553
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: like give your money directly to artists and the artisans

554
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: because all that work is handmade and it's super high quality.

555
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: So if if you're you know, conscientious in that way,

556
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: I think that you're good, you know. So yeah, that's

557
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: I also think something to note about traveling is like,

558
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: don't haggle with local artists and artisans, uh, for their

559
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: for whatever, for their craft. I like, yeah, Like whenever

560
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm in bid Oh, I don't haggle at all. Like

561
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: I will pay even if I'm getting the tourist price. Fine,

562
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: Like I'll still haggle because the dollar really is worth more,

563
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, obviously, like if you can't

564
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: afford it, don't do it, you know. But if you're

565
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: going to save yourself two dollars, five dollars, you just

566
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: pay the full price. Just pay the full price, you know. Um.

567
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: I will say that Morocco was different because on our trip,

568
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: we did Spain, we did Portugal, and we did Morocco.

569
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: And for us, there were a lot of men in Morocco,

570
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Like out on the streets, we didn't really see a

571
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: ton of women. And then in the Medina, in the shops.

572
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Speaker 1: All of the shop owners and the folks selling things

573
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: were men. Like women were there buying things, but anyone's

574
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: vending were men or little boys. So like there were

575
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Speaker 1: little boys who would be in charge of the shops

576
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Speaker 1: if you know, their dad or their uncle like wasn't

577
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: there or had to go run an errand they would

578
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: like let the boys, you know, watch the shop. But

579
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: there were no women. And it was interesting because in

580
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: the Medina there's like a men's section for men's clothing

581
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: and a section for women's clothing. The clothing is being

582
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: made by hand, like you can see the artists. They're

583
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: like sewing the clothing by hand. But the all the

584
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: women's shops were also run by men. So the men

585
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: were like sewing the women's garments and then like selling them.

586
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: So when we got there, you know, our airbnb host

587
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: was a woman, but like the taxi driver and then

588
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: like the guides and like the folks that met up

589
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: with met up with us and helped us with our luggage.

590
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: Once we got to the city, we're all men, so

591
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: we were dealing with like like four or five men,

592
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: and we were expecting to talk to a woman at first,

593
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: who was our host and we didn't see her to

594
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: the next day. So for us, especially just like where

595
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: we're coming from and we're not really used to that

596
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: much contact with men all at one time, that was

597
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: like a little bit um new on our first day there.

598
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: So that was like an adjustment because we really didn't

599
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: talk to a whole lot of women while we were

600
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: there because there just weren't I don't know just however

601
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: it worked out, So that was That's also something that

602
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: I would say, just like you know, we are we

603
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: have a particular audience of listeners and stuff. So that's

604
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: something just to keep in mind. And anytime you're traveling abroad,

605
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: I think it's important to be just aware of like

606
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: dynamics like that, especially having to do with gender. Um.

607
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, going abroad in college, like they

608
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: would talk to us about if you're going to certain

609
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: places and you're queer, you're a woman, like, there are

610
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: certain things you need to keep in mind, right and

611
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: like just be aware of as far as being out

612
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: in public. So it's that kind of a thing. Got

613
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: you well, thank you for sharing. I hope that answered

614
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: this listener's question. Okay, so just to close out, we

615
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: have a couple announcements. We will be um traveling doing

616
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: some traveling at the end of the month. So in October.

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00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: October we will be at Texas Lutheran University and we

618
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: will be delivering a keynote um at their university for

619
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: a conference. And then that same weekend we will be

620
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: in Charlottesville with the nonprofit Cresciando Puntos delivering a community

621
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: artist talk and a podcasting one O one workshop. So

622
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: we're excited we're gonna go into these Red States. So yes,

623
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Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. More travel advisories for ourselves

624
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: in state travel Advisory. Yeah, so we will see. We

625
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: will keep you all posted. But you know, we also

626
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: recognize that there are Latin X. There is Latin X

627
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: community living in these Red States, and that's why it's

628
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: important for us to go out there. I especially want

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Speaker 1: to shout out Guardina from Junto. She has been trying

630
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: to make this happen for two years. She applied for

631
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: a grant for us to go there, and then coordinating

632
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: with our schedules is very difficult. So thank you so

633
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 1: much to Guardina. We like see you, We thank you,

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00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: We will see you soon. Um and yeah, and then

635
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: we just want to give you all to say the date.

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Speaker 1: So we have um our next Look I Thought Alive

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Speaker 1: six here in l a more details to come, but

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Speaker 1: be a really big event for us, for all of us.

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Speaker 1: It will be the biggest event to date that we've done.

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Speaker 1: Um we're putting a lot of work into this and

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Speaker 1: there's some new new new stuff that we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: date November six. More infoto come. Yes, And this has

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Speaker 1: been in the process. This has been like a six

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Speaker 1: wasn't in case you were wondering in May, that's why

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Speaker 1: we didn't have a Look at Alive. Yeah, we were

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Speaker 1: saving all of our energy and our resources for this

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Speaker 1: upcoming Look Alive in November, for our anniversary or Look adversary.

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Speaker 1: So we will see guilt. Then. Thank you for rocking

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