Speaker 1: It's three fifty am in fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada, and
Speaker 1: you're listening tonight call. Hello, and welcome to another night Call.
Speaker 1: My name is Emily Oshida. I am in New York
Speaker 1: and with me on the other line and on the
Speaker 1: other coast, I have Test Lynch and Molly Lambert. And
Speaker 1: give us a call. Give us your night call at
Speaker 1: two four oh four, six nights, share your thoughts, your feelings, uh,
Speaker 1: any questions you may have for us on these strange
Speaker 1: days and lonely nights. You can also send us an
Speaker 1: email at Nightcall podcast at gmail dot com and yeah,
Speaker 1: tell us what's on your mind? So what's on your
Speaker 1: guys is mind tonight? Uh? I feel like it's been
Speaker 1: a while since we last spoke, because it actually has been,
Speaker 1: even though the pods keep it coming. But my head
Speaker 1: is like a balloon today, floating away from my body.
Speaker 1: And why could that be? Molly? Because I went to
Speaker 1: Las Vegas with Emily. Yeah, we we We spent some
Speaker 1: good time in Las Vegas. I would say it's a
Speaker 1: pretty successful trip. It was very successful in that I
Speaker 1: was so ready to get out of Las Vegas. On
Speaker 1: day three, I was like, I need to escape and
Speaker 1: then by the time I was on the plane, I
Speaker 1: was already like, what a great trip and that was fun.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna have nostalgia for the thing during the thing, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: we uh we went. I guess we got there. It
Speaker 1: wasn't even quite a weekend, but it felt like mom
Speaker 1: seen we got there on Thursday. We thought, okay, so
Speaker 1: here's what we thought. We thought we were picking like
Speaker 1: a dead weekend that nobody would be there because it's
Speaker 1: like the middle of March, and who's in Las Vegas?
Speaker 1: And we picked like like, what's the point. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were like, it's the Presummer rush, there's like no holidays.
Speaker 1: Turns out a it was St. Patrick's Day on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Who among us could have ever known when since Patrick
Speaker 1: spent that on my calendar, And it was March Madness weekend,
Speaker 1: which none of us even knew existed, because it's not
Speaker 1: like we worked at ESPN for several years and we
Speaker 1: haven't gone mad I don't have ESPN. We were so like,
Speaker 1: what is this and then we were like, oh no,
Speaker 1: it was the world have convened in Las Vegas. I
Speaker 1: have never seen so many men in my whole life. Wait,
Speaker 1: so I want to before we get into like the
Speaker 1: full rundown of the trip. I want to like one
Speaker 1: of my early observations because I got there a day
Speaker 1: early and I spent a night uh at the Palms
Speaker 1: uh and this was just off strip. But like, if
Speaker 1: anybody watched any MTV reality show at any point in
Speaker 1: the two thousands, they know the Palms because I feel
Speaker 1: like there was always like people partying at Ghost Bar
Speaker 1: or whatever. It was like the hang out for the
Speaker 1: cast of the Hills and Paris Hilton and everybody. Um.
Speaker 1: And now I mean they're in the middle of this
Speaker 1: huge overhaul, so it's sort of sad it's been all
Speaker 1: ripped up. Um. But I uh, but now it just
Speaker 1: kind of feels it's halfway there too. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's remodeling, but it's also now just an odds themed casino. Like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were sending these like really sad pictures of like
Speaker 1: Dave Navarre, just like you were saying, it's like they're
Speaker 1: halfway through trying to turn it over from being the
Speaker 1: two thousand's place, but they still have all the two
Speaker 1: thousands people in billboards on the walls. Yeah, there's this
Speaker 1: walkway the sky Tube to like their fancier hotel, Palms place,
Speaker 1: and it's just these huge murals of like Alicia Keys
Speaker 1: and Dave Navarro and the cast of Entourage and stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's just like such a weird motley. It's so
Speaker 1: strang and like yeah, and then like Nellie I think
Speaker 1: is in there in the middle. It's just it's it's
Speaker 1: it's very evocative. I mean, I spent I had like
Speaker 1: a very memorable experience with the Palms in probably at
Speaker 1: the very last year that it was like super the
Speaker 1: spot to be and I was a little sad to
Speaker 1: see it all ripped up and unrecognizable because I had
Speaker 1: I had, I had some good times at the Palms
Speaker 1: in my day. But yeah, I it was, it was,
Speaker 1: it was. It's it's a theme. It's a theme hotel
Speaker 1: of its own now, yeah, it's the theme is death
Speaker 1: and Resurrection. Oh. The other thing is that Adrian Malouf
Speaker 1: I don't think her family doesn't have any ownership over
Speaker 1: it anymore, Like the maloof name is no longer on it.
Speaker 1: Um Really I don't think. I think they got bought
Speaker 1: by like the people who on the station, the Palestation,
Speaker 1: I think or Sinset station. I can't remember anyway, I
Speaker 1: know too much about Vegas. Well, one thing about Vegas
Speaker 1: casinos is don't ever get attached to anything about any
Speaker 1: of them, because that is their their reality. Wouldn't that
Speaker 1: be so sad if you made a habit of getting
Speaker 1: attached to Vegas casino's. What I keep saying is like
Speaker 1: a really smart person if they were going to open
Speaker 1: another casino, Um, if they want to make a nightcall
Speaker 1: casino in old Las Vegas, because like the best casinos
Speaker 1: are the ones that are still feel a little old
Speaker 1: and weird to me. To me, um, and that's why
Speaker 1: I like like the old strip with like the Fremont
Speaker 1: Street casinos because they are a little like older and
Speaker 1: sleazier and own it. Whereas the new ones are like
Speaker 1: new and sleazy and have like are so characterless in
Speaker 1: the same way. Um, they have their forced character, like
Speaker 1: like the Cosmopolitan. But if they didn't blow everything up
Speaker 1: all the time, and they had let some of the
Speaker 1: sixties stuff exist long enough to still exist, it would
Speaker 1: be so popular now. And you know retro casino, like
Speaker 1: if there was like a sands, like a you know,
Speaker 1: may build the original sands and make like a utpack
Speaker 1: theme casino people would love that. Especially it's like the
Speaker 1: next phase now that, like the E d M phase
Speaker 1: of Las Vegas, is maybe on its way out. I
Speaker 1: guess well, I think it is peaked. I think this
Speaker 1: is maybe a separate discussion for another day, but I
Speaker 1: think that we're certainly in the twilight of of the
Speaker 1: d and like the Vegas E d M thing, and
Speaker 1: I wish I could write something about this. This is
Speaker 1: like something I thought was happening four years ago, but
Speaker 1: it's just taken longer. Emily and I both also had
Speaker 1: only been to Las Vegas most recently on work trips,
Speaker 1: which are great way to go to Las Vegas, and
Speaker 1: we both realized that that is why Hunter Thompson went
Speaker 1: there for Fear and Loathing is because it's like the
Speaker 1: place you can scam people in the letting you go. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: we both were like should we be taking notes? And
Speaker 1: then we're like, no, we're just here. I was so
Speaker 1: sad to miss this trip. Husband had work, and uh,
Speaker 1: I have We have no babysitter, which is fun to
Speaker 1: have no babysitter and just be looking at Instagram. But
Speaker 1: it was you guys did a good job of we
Speaker 1: missed you very much, especially at Magic Mike. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we will get to Yeah. So yeah, we met up
Speaker 1: at the Venetian, which is where this this all took place,
Speaker 1: which I had also never been to before, which is
Speaker 1: a great silly Las Vegas hotel with fake canals. It
Speaker 1: was very like floral looking or was that somewhere else
Speaker 1: that you guys wan that was the wind. The wind
Speaker 1: is like rose Parade. We should like do the disclaiming
Speaker 1: that all of these places are owned by the most
Speaker 1: evil men. Uh, and that's just a fact of going
Speaker 1: to Vegas. It's like you're gonna eat the burger and
Speaker 1: it's going to have like hooves in it. Although the
Speaker 1: win even though um, when Steve Wyne is very evil, um,
Speaker 1: he's also a vegan. He's an evil vegan, So the
Speaker 1: burger isn't the most apt. No, they have like lots
Speaker 1: of vegan options. And we actually went there on St.
Speaker 1: Patrick's there because it was like they were like my
Speaker 1: friends that were left were like, uh, this one might
Speaker 1: have vegetarian options remain Yeah. Trip. Well, I thought that
Speaker 1: was interesting to the evil vegans because it's become such
Speaker 1: a trope, the like the evil billionaires and evil tech
Speaker 1: guys that are into like health and wellness and like
Speaker 1: fake into Eastern religion, you know, but are evil. And
Speaker 1: did you guys see that article about Um this is
Speaker 1: totally separate Powder Mountain. No, it's like an elite club
Speaker 1: for like millennials who are trying to have spiritual awakenings.
Speaker 1: It's like a place to do mushrooms with billionaires. And
Speaker 1: it sounds awful. It's like Ana somewhere. Um you should
Speaker 1: it's almost like my nightmare. Um. I heard that the
Speaker 1: tech yuppiece have taken over Lyn, which is not super surprising.
Speaker 1: That's that's a part of that story too, so we
Speaker 1: should hate Yeah. Sorry, let's get back to last. Speaking
Speaker 1: of journeys to the inside of the self. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: so so we mentioned that we went there during March
Speaker 1: Madness and it was just this complete and total like
Speaker 1: when did you realize it was March Madness? When I
Speaker 1: got on the plane to go to Vegas and it
Speaker 1: was all dudes, and I texted David and I was like,
Speaker 1: I've made a horrible mistake. Yeah, I didn't even really
Speaker 1: like I I remember when we booked and somebody was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be a busy weekend. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, like, you know, aren't they all uh
Speaker 1: But no, this was on a different level entirely. So
Speaker 1: everywhere we went, it was it was packed with dudes. Everywhere.
Speaker 1: It was like, I can't even describe it because I've
Speaker 1: never been in that experience. I kept saying, it was
Speaker 1: like we were in a zombie movie where all the
Speaker 1: women had been killed and we were the only women left.
Speaker 1: So like every time we did see a woman, we
Speaker 1: would be like hello. And so this being this was
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't mentioned this is my bachelorette party,
Speaker 1: and so this being a special occasion, I you know,
Speaker 1: I really wanted to work some some uh some looks
Speaker 1: or as you may pronounce them, Luke's um during the weekend.
Speaker 1: And the first second that Molly and I stepped out
Speaker 1: to go to walgre Is to get something, it's like
Speaker 1: just a bunch of guys being like interesting outfits ladies.
Speaker 1: And I was like, cool, I'm gonna go back and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna change into something even weirder. Yeah, we kind
Speaker 1: of we kind of decided against our like hot outfits
Speaker 1: in favor of our like scary outfits because the first
Speaker 1: time we went out in our hot outfits, the men
Speaker 1: who like hit on you that are super normy and
Speaker 1: are like weird, what's up? Weirdos like but yeah, so
Speaker 1: do you like books? What? Um? But we so we
Speaker 1: had been kind of dealing with this, like guys who
Speaker 1: were just so in their zone that they you know,
Speaker 1: don't like in the elevator door for women, like, oh no,
Speaker 1: we didn't exist to them. Every time we were in
Speaker 1: an elevator, they were having like an impassionate you know,
Speaker 1: like did you see that play? Like like really loud,
Speaker 1: like over us if we wanted to have a conversation,
Speaker 1: which we weren't even trying to, but just like it
Speaker 1: was just we we were completely invisible to them. It
Speaker 1: was like they were saying, did you see that play?
Speaker 1: My first thought was like theater Nert, that's madness. You know,
Speaker 1: we were so divorced, but it was hilarious. We were like,
Speaker 1: we didn't We didn't think about it at all. And
Speaker 1: then I didn't even know that it was like a
Speaker 1: thing in Las Vegas, even though of course it is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like the guys aren't even there to
Speaker 1: like party and get laid. They're literally just there to
Speaker 1: bet that's all they care about. Probably, I mean there's
Speaker 1: probably plenty of well, they wear their like daytime visor
Speaker 1: to the casino and then they have their nighttime visor
Speaker 1: sex visor the club. We were visors the whole time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, then we went to the club. We went
Speaker 1: to Hakkasan, which is the super super club, the like
Speaker 1: three stories to have to take an elevator like in
Speaker 1: the Haunted Mansion to get in um and I only
Speaker 1: and I both enjoy those sorts of things. We enjoyed spectacle,
Speaker 1: and I had always wanted to go there out of
Speaker 1: just like like sheer kind of morbid fascination with like Vegas. Well,
Speaker 1: the last time I went to Vegas was I was
Speaker 1: profiling Martin Garrick's superstar DJ Martin Garrick's for MTV, and
Speaker 1: we got to go to like a superclub through like
Speaker 1: the back door entrance, the good Fellows entrance, and it
Speaker 1: was like the best experience of my life. I was
Speaker 1: just like, can't be jaded about this. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: pretty cool, although I'm sure it gets old if you're
Speaker 1: like doing it every night one of those DJs. But
Speaker 1: Hakasan was like I was just like walking into a
Speaker 1: room of like testosterone using. It was like everyone was
Speaker 1: just hitting on like any woman in sight. I felt
Speaker 1: bad for any woman who was there because it was
Speaker 1: just like that kind of getting hit on where it
Speaker 1: has just so it's so indiscriminate. It's just like you okay,
Speaker 1: no you well yeah no, And I and I always
Speaker 1: try to just be like, hey, everybody in our group
Speaker 1: is spoken for, and then somebody will make fun of
Speaker 1: me for using the turn of phrase spoken for. It's
Speaker 1: just like there's no way to have a Niles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. We are all spoken for here. Um.
Speaker 1: That was funny too because there was nobody was single,
Speaker 1: but everybody came out of it like, man, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad I'm not single, because like what a nightmare. But
Speaker 1: so on our last night, um, we we went to
Speaker 1: uh maybe the pullar Uf. We we had like the
Speaker 1: best palate cleanser. Yeah, we counter programmed. Um. And the
Speaker 1: first I went to the National Atomic Testing Museum. There
Speaker 1: was that so we meant to talk about that radiation
Speaker 1: and yeah, we looked at a lot of that is
Speaker 1: a great museum that I recommend to everybody at the
Speaker 1: National Atomic Testing Museum it uh is really scary. And
Speaker 1: the first time I went it was before the election,
Speaker 1: so I had such a different experience of it because
Speaker 1: I was just like, Wow, the twentieth century was so scary,
Speaker 1: you know. I was like, yeah, I was like, imagine
Speaker 1: living under the like terror of nuclear threat all the time.
Speaker 1: That must have been so scary. No wonder, everything got
Speaker 1: so paranoid and weird. And then this time it was
Speaker 1: even weirder because it's a Smithsonian museum. But the way
Speaker 1: the captions work, it's like, and then we made the
Speaker 1: bomb because we had to because of the Russian arms race,
Speaker 1: and then the text democracy, yeah, and then there's got
Speaker 1: to have it. They very they like don't go into
Speaker 1: Hiroshima Nagasaki at all in terms of like what happened
Speaker 1: after you did that. It's just like, here's what you know,
Speaker 1: Then we made this bomb, and then we made this bomb,
Speaker 1: wasn't it? And then at the end it's like and
Speaker 1: then we won the Cold War. I think it was
Speaker 1: Dulcia who was saying that who had been to the
Speaker 1: museum in in Hiroshima the about the bomb there, And
Speaker 1: it's also equally like kind of gliding over the fact
Speaker 1: that there was even a war before the bomb was off.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you get the selective story no
Speaker 1: matter where you are, if you're easy, and that covers
Speaker 1: any kind of war conflict whatsoever. Yeah, it definitely was
Speaker 1: a national museum. Yeah, there's also like an incredible movie
Speaker 1: that I don't Molly, you weren't in there with us,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure you saw when you were there before
Speaker 1: where it starts with a bomb countdown and then they
Speaker 1: like filled the theater with smoke and like it and
Speaker 1: like jets of air blasts at you and all nerves
Speaker 1: were so afraid because it had been like a very
Speaker 1: long night before. Were also called the ground zero Theater, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's called. And like immediately my friend who was sitting
Speaker 1: next to me just like collapsed and coward and like
Speaker 1: wide into my arms. It's like too much, too much,
Speaker 1: too much, we can't do it. Uh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a lot. But then we got
Speaker 1: to see the sad little collection of alien memorabilia, which
Speaker 1: is the alien exhibit I saw when I first went
Speaker 1: was no longer up, but they had sort of like
Speaker 1: moved the remaining stuff into a sad corner, which was
Speaker 1: great because one of the things in the alien display
Speaker 1: was just the collection of vape juice that was called
Speaker 1: Area fifty one vape juice, like the last case in
Speaker 1: a museum that it has like the Smithsonian logo outside
Speaker 1: of it. There is they divide the like the real
Speaker 1: history stuff from the Area fifty one stuff. But they
Speaker 1: know that people are super interested in that also, um
Speaker 1: so they a little bit catered to it because I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's a spoonful of sugar to help the
Speaker 1: medicine go down. It's very interesting just from a point
Speaker 1: of view two of like, you know, because it's in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. It's outside Las Vegas because the Nevada test
Speaker 1: site is where they tested all these atomic bombs, so
Speaker 1: it's technically a museum about that, but it's you know,
Speaker 1: they talked about like, oh in the Earth, the places
Speaker 1: they considered for testing the atomic bomb? Where else New
Speaker 1: Mexico and Utah? And I think they picked last, like
Speaker 1: Nevada because there was like relatively nothing around it. And
Speaker 1: then Las Vegas was piste at first because they were like,
Speaker 1: please don't test atomic bombs. Everybody wanted to watch the
Speaker 1: bomb go off. Yeah, and then they just coveted to
Speaker 1: promoting it and being like, come get blown up in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, which you know, to be honest, that's still
Speaker 1: a draw. Yeah, although now that I say that, I
Speaker 1: realized how tasteless it is because they just had a
Speaker 1: big mass shooting, so uh they I think sometimes I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's what's part of weird about the sort
Speaker 1: of erasing of history in Las Vegas is that it
Speaker 1: was interesting to be there and be like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: there's some like veiggat strong hashtags and stuff, but other
Speaker 1: than that, every and there were some bomb sniffing dogs,
Speaker 1: but other than that, it was very like business as usual.
Speaker 1: Don't think about it being scary. It's so funny to
Speaker 1: me that you guys love Las Vegas because I hate
Speaker 1: lass I truly hate Las Vegas, and my my uncle
Speaker 1: lived there for a long long time, which maybe is
Speaker 1: part of why I not know. My uncle was great,
Speaker 1: but like, when you live in Las Vegas had the
Speaker 1: experience of like the non tourist well yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and also I had, like I just when you were
Speaker 1: talking about the guys going up and hitting on you
Speaker 1: and how awful they were, I was like, huh, maybe
Speaker 1: I was doing that back when I was in Vegas
Speaker 1: where you're just like anyone, anyone, and that's like part
Speaker 1: of that Vegas experience. I just felt bad for them.
Speaker 1: I wasn't like I was like, I know, but it's
Speaker 1: like that weird desperate Yeah, the desperate energy. I I
Speaker 1: enjoy observing that because I want some money in Las Vegas,
Speaker 1: the like one time that I went there in recent memory. Um,
Speaker 1: because I have a rule that I can only ever
Speaker 1: gamble twenty dollars what I do and I saw you
Speaker 1: with avouch. Yeah, but I spent five dollars, so it
Speaker 1: wasn't that loss. What's the best thing about Las Vegas? Okay?
Speaker 1: I think Emily and I probably both like it because
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, a postmodern fantasy and we like
Speaker 1: to think about it. Yeah. And uh, I also just
Speaker 1: like any large machine, and when you're you're driving into
Speaker 1: Vegas and you see all the resorts and they're just colossal,
Speaker 1: Like they're bigger than any building that you see in
Speaker 1: New York, just in terms of like the stats, like
Speaker 1: not in terms of height, but just in terms of
Speaker 1: like the mass of them. It's just so it's such
Speaker 1: an alien scale to be in and then to think
Speaker 1: about like like cities worth of people that just work there. Right.
Speaker 1: It's it's so far out in the desert that it
Speaker 1: has a real like space colony feeling to it. You're like,
Speaker 1: this is how we are thinking about, like how we
Speaker 1: would colonize Mars, you know, because you're like, what do
Speaker 1: you need? And how can you make buildings that have
Speaker 1: every possible thing you could ever need in them so
Speaker 1: you never have to leave the building, But then you
Speaker 1: always get that biggest casino space madness where you're like,
Speaker 1: I have to go outside where that day is night
Speaker 1: and night is day. And that accounts for a lot
Speaker 1: of my wooziness now, is just being so outside of
Speaker 1: like any kind of natural time cycle or like day cycle.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's so weird. I felt like fine
Speaker 1: on St. Patrick's Day, which was also hilarious because we
Speaker 1: were like at the end of our trip and then
Speaker 1: everybody else was like just getting there for St. Patrick's
Speaker 1: Day on Saturday, you know, so it was like, you
Speaker 1: guys are also lucky that you missed the spring break
Speaker 1: crowd or maybe not, like that would be more fun,
Speaker 1: that would have been better than this. This was like
Speaker 1: not there would have been more women there, like it was.
Speaker 1: That was the thing. On St. Patrick's Day. I was
Speaker 1: immediately more comfortable because there were suddenly like packs of
Speaker 1: sorority girls and I was like, right, you know what,
Speaker 1: my sisters, when else are you going to say, like
Speaker 1: think that? But then you're left like but no, I
Speaker 1: was like, the bros can't exist like alone. The bros
Speaker 1: need to like rove amongst the packs of like lady bros,
Speaker 1: you know, and find each other. When it was just
Speaker 1: bros and they were just like there to gamble and
Speaker 1: that's all it was. I don't know. That was maybe
Speaker 1: too dark for me, I think. I think also another
Speaker 1: part of me being always like drawn to Vegas from
Speaker 1: the first time I ever went there is like it's
Speaker 1: so outside of anything that I like, I would never
Speaker 1: have gone on a Vegas vacation when I was a
Speaker 1: kid one because we would have had the money into
Speaker 1: because it's just like completely not I'm aligned with any
Speaker 1: values I grew up with. So there's a sort of
Speaker 1: like forbidden fruit aspect of it, but like in a
Speaker 1: not in a like I'm gonna go and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: like shower myself in champagne and do all of the
Speaker 1: Debaucher's things. I'm mostly just like, what is it like
Speaker 1: all the crazy stuff that you can do here? Beautiful
Speaker 1: lights were like suckers for beautiful. There was that meme
Speaker 1: going around that was like about like how Neon and
Speaker 1: fog is so tired the Blade Runner like cyberpunk esthetic,
Speaker 1: and then it was like, also me, like, oh, Neon
Speaker 1: like a foggy nie. I do like the Neon. I
Speaker 1: just feel like there's a certain element of like being
Speaker 1: trapped with the bad decisions you're gonna make in a
Speaker 1: big giant hotel that just feels like the Twilight Zone
Speaker 1: that I would least like to experience. But yeah, the
Speaker 1: ship exactly. I mean I hated Las Vegas when I
Speaker 1: went there as a kid. I went there for the
Speaker 1: first time as a kid to see a Grateful Dead
Speaker 1: concert with my family. During the Bob were and Jared
Speaker 1: Garcia were wearing shorts a lot phase um, and I
Speaker 1: hated Las Vegas because it was like a hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty degrees um. I like the luxe mark because I
Speaker 1: was into ancient Egyptian art, but you know, I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I hated it. I thought I just
Speaker 1: really hated Las Vegas, and then I went back for
Speaker 1: the first time as an adult to a b N
Speaker 1: for Gretland and that was the best experience of my life.
Speaker 1: Fell in love with Las Vegas. I was going to say,
Speaker 1: we should we should break and do a question and
Speaker 1: then do something just on magic Mike, I think, yes, brilliant. Okay, Uh,
Speaker 1: We'll be back with the rest of our Vegas adventure
Speaker 1: after a night call. UM, Yeah, let's take a night call.
Speaker 1: Who do we have on the on the old message recorder,
Speaker 1: on the old voicemail box, we have a call from Kevin.
Speaker 1: Good evening, night call. My name is Kevin. I'm speaking.
Speaker 1: I'm talking from Los Angeles. UM. Extent of the podcast
Speaker 1: so far, I had a question for all three of you. UM,
Speaker 1: I wanted to get a sense of any experiences that
Speaker 1: you've had in terms of deep dives looking for stuff online,
Speaker 1: anything that is sort of inevertly become nightmare fuel. UM.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they'll spend a lot of times just doing deep
Speaker 1: dives on YouTube, and then I'll come across some strange
Speaker 1: pod video, kind of watch half of it, freak out
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then I kind of meditate on
Speaker 1: it and then did a little bit deeper looking for
Speaker 1: related content. I just wanted to know if there was
Speaker 1: anything in terms of what I described that you could
Speaker 1: identify in terms of your own internet or online deep dives.
Speaker 1: Al Right, have a good night, Hey Kevin, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for calling it. So we're we I think
Speaker 1: we are all mega deep divers, Is that right? Guys? UM?
Speaker 1: What this is interesting to me? So you you kind
Speaker 1: of accidentally stumbled on something that was really creepy, and
Speaker 1: then instead of closing the window, you were like, here
Speaker 1: into the darkness. I'm going in my the one that's
Speaker 1: kind of like terrible catnip for me. Well, there's two,
Speaker 1: and I think we'll probably have a whole episode devoted
Speaker 1: eventually to ghosts. One of them is ghost stories. But
Speaker 1: I am a'm I get very obsessed with medical mysteries UM,
Speaker 1: and so I tend to go like really really deep
Speaker 1: on those UM and that's a huge mistake that I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone should do. I signed up for UM
Speaker 1: this website called crowdmed after trying to solve several acquaintances
Speaker 1: medical mysteries by like obsessive Google. I got a couple solved.
Speaker 1: So then crowd met is basically if you have something
Speaker 1: that doctors can't figure out, you post like an exhaustive
Speaker 1: account of your symptoms, and you get an anonymous handle
Speaker 1: and then, um, anyone can kind of weigh in and
Speaker 1: try and solve it for you, and there's like a
Speaker 1: cash reward if they get it right. I guess I'm
Speaker 1: not even sure how it works because I have not
Speaker 1: felt like an expert enough to actually diagnose someone. So
Speaker 1: I just look at their problems try and diagnose them
Speaker 1: and keep that information to myself, which is so horrible
Speaker 1: thing to do. Um doctor test, but it's been it's
Speaker 1: been super super interesting. So that's that's my deep dive
Speaker 1: nightmare fuel. Um. And I feel like I already know
Speaker 1: what Molly's is by wonder should you think I thought
Speaker 1: it was lotus bressed? Oh well, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: fear of fear of holes, fear of our text thread
Speaker 1: a lot yeah. Uh, but I'm trying to think, like
Speaker 1: what a recent one is, Sumily, what are yours? Well?
Speaker 1: This one, I mean I've been I've been watching this
Speaker 1: video since the beginning, like bench just freaked out. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it really has been uh since I was in college. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's a long story about what what opened me to
Speaker 1: the world of videos. But I haven't watched videos. You
Speaker 1: don't know about this now, this is legitimately a huge thing.
Speaker 1: Um it's I've learned a lot about you also on
Speaker 1: this trip, such as that you were a hair model.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, Emily's secrets. She's got great hair. She
Speaker 1: was like, I haven't been been to Vegas since the
Speaker 1: hair show. Oh no, I've been to Vegas since. They
Speaker 1: hadn't been to the Vegas was for the hair show. No,
Speaker 1: it was my second time, and it was. But it
Speaker 1: was the first time I stayed at the Venetian for
Speaker 1: inter coffee or two thousand and seven. It was there
Speaker 1: with the doll sets. Soon it was very fun. We
Speaker 1: did everyteen to the Clackson's if want to date that
Speaker 1: so Dave Navarro and the Palms. Yeah anyway, But okay,
Speaker 1: so there's that. I mean, those are two Sist videos.
Speaker 1: I can't funk with that. I know I can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know it's not for everybody. I don't want to
Speaker 1: get too much into it. I honestly haven't watched a lot.
Speaker 1: Last time I went to go see how this sist
Speaker 1: scene on YouTube was going, it was like, very very
Speaker 1: it was extremely like curated like all things on YouTube now,
Speaker 1: like a dermatologists who have UM channels endorsements. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's totally crazy. Like before it was always just like
Speaker 1: beauty bloggers. That's yeah, it's crazy. So like before it
Speaker 1: was just like my cousin has this thing on his
Speaker 1: back and we're going to take him out back and
Speaker 1: rip it open, Like I mean, there's by that. But
Speaker 1: she's like, I like to google medical Mr. Internal Medicine.
Speaker 1: I'm an internist. I'm a fake Internet amant, but I
Speaker 1: like to read about disappearances. I had one other one
Speaker 1: that because that one, like, I don't know, that's not
Speaker 1: like a really a current thing. That's just not anymore.
Speaker 1: The scene is dead, guys. But the one that I
Speaker 1: got into like a couple of years ago is UM
Speaker 1: kids who like you know, these like evangelical kids who
Speaker 1: record um their gloss alalia um. They do their speaking
Speaker 1: in tongues like in like you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: the videos would be kind of long because they have
Speaker 1: to wait for the spirit to take them over and
Speaker 1: then they start um, you know, doing They're they're leaning
Speaker 1: and rocking and doing all the speaking in tongues and
Speaker 1: everything and that can be very haunting and unsettling sometimes. Um,
Speaker 1: do you ever get too creeped out? Yeah? For sure,
Speaker 1: Like there are ones where it's like this kid is
Speaker 1: too young to be doing this on YouTube, Like there's
Speaker 1: something very like I think we're all too young to do.
Speaker 1: We know what I actually, Um, Molly Soda, who is
Speaker 1: an internet person, I really like she's an artist. She
Speaker 1: was posting yesterday about how like tween girls will like
Speaker 1: put up videos on YouTube of like dances they made up,
Speaker 1: and then there are all these mean comments from adult
Speaker 1: men being like you're ugly, like this dance sucks, and
Speaker 1: she was just like that should be like a safe
Speaker 1: place for people, Like girls should be have a phase
Speaker 1: where they get to like make up dances where they
Speaker 1: aren't like being critiqued by men about what they don't
Speaker 1: like about it. I was. I was like, she's so right, Um,
Speaker 1: but also like we all did that stuff. I feel
Speaker 1: like we were like eighties video cameras, Like we definitely
Speaker 1: have the tape of I Believe You're on It, Molly
Speaker 1: that my parents said, and I was like, oh, what
Speaker 1: if anyone has seen it? Can I tell you guys?
Speaker 1: Because Molly, I think you mentioned miss like disappearances. Um,
Speaker 1: I was. I did a deep dive where I was
Speaker 1: trying to see if I could find this woman who's
Speaker 1: been missing for gosh, I mean it must be like
Speaker 1: more than a year. Her name is Nancy, and there's
Speaker 1: a website for her called Nancy is Missing, and she
Speaker 1: has a Facebook page. She went she has Alzheimer's and
Speaker 1: she went missing from LACMA, and I decided to take
Speaker 1: it upon myself to try to find her. But in like,
Speaker 1: because there's a huge homeless population obviously in l A.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm just going to keep an
Speaker 1: eye out. But then I also started looking through um
Speaker 1: the databases of missing people in Los Angeles, and I
Speaker 1: was doing it so much that I like, I just
Speaker 1: feel like I maybe wanted to find like I wanted
Speaker 1: it to happen. And so I thought I found a
Speaker 1: missing person who had gone missing near my house a
Speaker 1: long time ago, and I thought I found him living
Speaker 1: on the streets, and I sent my husband to he
Speaker 1: was in a parking lot of a drug store, to
Speaker 1: go be like, hey, we found you, yeah, to to
Speaker 1: say his name just to see if he responded. But
Speaker 1: but he did respond. But then was like it's not me.
Speaker 1: But then they ended up having this long conversation. My
Speaker 1: husband had a hard time extricating himself from and he
Speaker 1: made me promise to to never do that again. But
Speaker 1: I like went so deep on it because I was like,
Speaker 1: I think I could find like half these people. I've
Speaker 1: got a lot of time on my ends. Like you've
Speaker 1: been a detective a few times. Actually it's always worked
Speaker 1: out so well, that's what I'm saying. You're such a
Speaker 1: great smith. Wow. Um, well, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: the caution. UM. I like Kevin's attitude also about like um,
Speaker 1: just sticking with it and waiting for an epiphany to happen,
Speaker 1: or meditating, or that you go too deep and you
Speaker 1: get spooked, which can happen, and then either way we
Speaker 1: have We've gotten so many good night calls and we're
Speaker 1: trying to work through all of them. It's going to
Speaker 1: take some time, but we've gotten a lot of very
Speaker 1: heartfelt UM questions and messages and we love them, so
Speaker 1: please keep them. Just because we don't play them doesn't
Speaker 1: mean we we don't see them. We read them all.
Speaker 1: So now that we've we've we see you and hear you,
Speaker 1: and we and we love your emails, yes, and we're
Speaker 1: going to get to more of them. Were going through slowly,
Speaker 1: so back to Vegas really quickly. UM. So we mentioned
Speaker 1: it was a complete manfest the entire time we were there,
Speaker 1: and it was a little overwhelming. But on our last
Speaker 1: night we had the palate cleanser of palate cleansers. Um.
Speaker 1: We went to Magic Mike Live, which was which is
Speaker 1: the live show they've had for about a year and
Speaker 1: a half now. I think at the hard Rock Hotel
Speaker 1: um produced by I think Cheney Tatum has like a
Speaker 1: producer role in it, but I could be mistaken. It's
Speaker 1: uh they saw his vodka at the bar, so he's
Speaker 1: definitely he's in it. He makes a voice cameo in it. Um.
Speaker 1: But it is uh something I kind of had to
Speaker 1: be talked into it first. You did totally have to
Speaker 1: be talked into it. Uh. You were more leaning towards
Speaker 1: the Boss Lerman review, which is incredible and I will
Speaker 1: go to that someday. But I was totally the I
Speaker 1: am such a bro because I was the person who's like,
Speaker 1: it's your bachelor getting strippers, even though it's like it's
Speaker 1: not like you're getting strippers it's like they're going to
Speaker 1: a play no that has men dancing in it. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing that's funny is that I when I came back, Um,
Speaker 1: David was watching Atlanta and I don't remember what it's
Speaker 1: from the new season, but there's like a scene that
Speaker 1: was in a strip club and I was just sort
Speaker 1: of like, it's so different from like strip reviews, like
Speaker 1: male strip reviews, Like it's more like an ambience where
Speaker 1: like a strip like for like a female stripper in scenario,
Speaker 1: it's like the musical cabaret. It's right, yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: a no you're in like Weimar, Germany. You know everyone's
Speaker 1: in the club. Yeah, um well they come we're studying
Speaker 1: in a balcony, but they came up to the Belfi, right,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's uh, first of all, well okay, so
Speaker 1: my my, I'll tell you my my reservations were just that,
Speaker 1: like I love both Magic Mike movies a lot. I
Speaker 1: think they are so fun and like very life affirming
Speaker 1: in right, I also had no interest in being one
Speaker 1: of the women in it, like even in those like
Speaker 1: really incredibly choreographed ones like the mirror dance at the
Speaker 1: end of Magic Mike XXL like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be the person who's being thrown around on a chair
Speaker 1: like and like yeah, or being made to do the split. Right,
Speaker 1: you don't want to get called on stage at the
Speaker 1: Magic show. You're not like a volunteer. Well, I have
Speaker 1: been called on stage in a magic show. That's sort
Speaker 1: of fun. Um, Okay, you're a selective but not where
Speaker 1: you might have to like spread eagle in front of
Speaker 1: a crowd or whatever like that then or so you
Speaker 1: sawn um. I was really campaigning for the Magic Mike
Speaker 1: Show also because like three out of the five people
Speaker 1: at this bachelor att party or film critics or film programmers,
Speaker 1: and so I thought it would be funny to go
Speaker 1: to a strip show based on a Steven Soderberg movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was, but also to encourage like more Las
Speaker 1: Vegas reviews based on Steven Soderberg movie. What would be
Speaker 1: the what would be the next on like obviously Behind
Speaker 1: the Candelabra Lives, Yeah, you would be that would that
Speaker 1: would definitely bring me to Vegas if I could go
Speaker 1: to Okay, when we build the nightcalled Casino that's the sixties,
Speaker 1: that will be the in how show is the liberat
Speaker 1: Behind the Candle labbr show, it would be amazing. So uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much we want to spoil from
Speaker 1: The Magic Mike Show because there are some like definite surprises.
Speaker 1: And this is the other thing that intrigued me about
Speaker 1: the show and kind of won me over is that
Speaker 1: on Yelped, people are like, the Magic Mike Show is
Speaker 1: so amazing. I kind of don't want to go into
Speaker 1: too much detail here because I want to like preserve
Speaker 1: the experience for people who come to see it later.
Speaker 1: So maybe, like, but there is like a total there's
Speaker 1: a fake out moment in it that like it's very rewarding.
Speaker 1: We were all faked up. Yeah, but but but it
Speaker 1: has it has this incredible female m c which I
Speaker 1: think is like the reason so much of it works.
Speaker 1: Much like reason it works, yeah, much much like in
Speaker 1: Magic Mike XXL with Jada Pinkett Smith. I mean she's
Speaker 1: not really doing the same thing as Jada Picket Smith,
Speaker 1: but it's just like this like female like this like
Speaker 1: dominating female energy, and the room is like what makes
Speaker 1: us Like Ben having been in March Madness for like
Speaker 1: the previous day, it was like the opposite. It was
Speaker 1: like she was like here's a space that's just for you,
Speaker 1: the ladies. Nothing is about anything but like what you're
Speaker 1: interested in and like catering to your needs. And we
Speaker 1: were like a great thing about it is that so
Speaker 1: many of the like when they have you know, she
Speaker 1: does like little interactions with some of the guys and
Speaker 1: like they've all they all just like act in the
Speaker 1: cutest like kind of dumb puppy dog way, like they're
Speaker 1: they're legitimately hot. Yeah, they are like waxed in some
Speaker 1: incredible way. Yeah, which we know because well everybody was
Speaker 1: like you thought they'd be gross to touch, but then
Speaker 1: they were kind of like very soft. We thought that
Speaker 1: they'd be grew. Somebody was saying that they weren't sure
Speaker 1: if they wanted to about that person, but yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's great everybody around. Um, it was just like a
Speaker 1: room full of women, you know. It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: here's where everybody is. Like it was like ten different
Speaker 1: I was telling David, like, upon reflection, it was kind
Speaker 1: of like being in a big banquet hall and like
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones or something, except it was just all
Speaker 1: bridal parties and like all the different instead of all
Speaker 1: the different houses, and so it was like here's one
Speaker 1: one group, but they're like their queen and her veil,
Speaker 1: and here's the group where everybody's wearing like mass like
Speaker 1: glittering and masquerade masks, and everybody sort of gathered in
Speaker 1: the round around all the male strippers. It was very
Speaker 1: kind of incredible. Um, yeah, you could tell who the bride,
Speaker 1: like the bride would be wearing. Everybody was wearing like
Speaker 1: a like a slutty bride dress with like a bride sash,
Speaker 1: you know, and then their bridesmaids wearing like slutty bridemaid's dresses.
Speaker 1: And then all the brides are the people who got
Speaker 1: the like special dances because their parties told them in advance,
Speaker 1: and our party also told the show, and you know,
Speaker 1: uh so they asked Emily if she wanted to come
Speaker 1: on stage and she said, yes, yeah, I wouldn't. Well
Speaker 1: because you said you weren't. You didn't want to. You
Speaker 1: thought you didn't want to at all. But then they
Speaker 1: came over and by that point you were because it
Speaker 1: was like a few numbers into the show. At that
Speaker 1: point too, you knew they were going to like take
Speaker 1: care of you and they weren't gonna like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be a bad experience. It would be
Speaker 1: like a lovely and tender experience. We also, the whole
Speaker 1: thing is so based on consent, so like they So
Speaker 1: they came up this guy, like not one of the dancers,
Speaker 1: just like another guy working the show, came up and
Speaker 1: asked me would you like to go on stage for
Speaker 1: a dance? And it was like very like gentlemanly. It
Speaker 1: was like would you care to have this dance? And
Speaker 1: I was like would I? Like, you know, I thought
Speaker 1: about it for a second, was like yeah, sure, And
Speaker 1: then the whole time was that they were like bringing
Speaker 1: me down and like prepping me for what's going to
Speaker 1: go on. Like the whole thing was very like are
Speaker 1: you okay with this? Is this? Are you going to
Speaker 1: be okay doing this and this? And it was just
Speaker 1: like so gentlemanly the entire experience. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: so Millie, what did they do? Um? So I got
Speaker 1: an aerialist. There we go. She got the nine inch
Speaker 1: which is so perfect that we were all like did
Speaker 1: they how did they know she would get the industrial
Speaker 1: music aerialist song? Sir? Of course, of course, okay, And
Speaker 1: maybe I didn't know. Maybe it was going to be
Speaker 1: strapped her down to a big round leather bed in
Speaker 1: the middle of the floor, and then a guy did
Speaker 1: an aerial routine over her that she had to participate in. Well,
Speaker 1: he's like so it they he comes down like he's
Speaker 1: spinning around and stuf. First of all, it just feels
Speaker 1: like a dream because you're like lying down you just
Speaker 1: have this man like spitting above you. There's not that
Speaker 1: much contact for most of it. No, it wasn't like
Speaker 1: you didn't get like grinded on drip on you. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but they're sweat dripping on you, and it's I know
Speaker 1: it's gross, but I just on my face. Molly was like,
Speaker 1: looking at my face is so horrified. Look at your face.
Speaker 1: But I've also seen pictures of you from college. He girl, No,
Speaker 1: there was no sweat. He was surprisingly dry. He but
Speaker 1: there are these moments where he'll like he came down
Speaker 1: and was like, okay, like grab onto my jacket and
Speaker 1: just pull and then he would like and then he
Speaker 1: would like lift himself up and somehow his jacket would
Speaker 1: just like come off into my hands. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I'm part of the trick. It was like you ripped
Speaker 1: his pants off and then he would like slide away
Speaker 1: and then come back, and then at the end he
Speaker 1: like lifted it Emily onto his lap and then like
Speaker 1: they flew together. There is video of this somewhere, but
Speaker 1: oh my god, it was the greatest. I'm so happy
Speaker 1: that didn't stay in Vegas, right, Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: was incredibly like do you don't have to tell anyone
Speaker 1: about this? Just for you? But then there's nothing to
Speaker 1: be embarrasseduff, because all I did was just like lie
Speaker 1: there and enjoy the show. Yeah, it was it was all.
Speaker 1: It was also, like I was saying, it was like
Speaker 1: the pit and the pendulum, like part of it was
Speaker 1: like is he gonna fall on you? It's but we
Speaker 1: we left and we were just like, I think we're
Speaker 1: all just in this like crazy euphoria because it was
Speaker 1: just the most like it was better than I think
Speaker 1: any of us could have imagined the like, aside from
Speaker 1: even me going on stage, just the entire atmosphere and
Speaker 1: it was great and just there were like a million
Speaker 1: women around and they were so happy. So we were
Speaker 1: also just like because we hadn't seen any women all weekend,
Speaker 1: we were like, yeah, like the end of the sci
Speaker 1: fi movie we found like the secret part of Logan's Run.
Speaker 1: Totally always do a Logan's Run metaphor because it's the
Speaker 1: only metaphor. Uh. Hey, guys, want to take another night call? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This one comes from Darcy Wilder. Hello, guys, it's Darcy Wilder. Um.
Speaker 1: I saw a post on Instagram and I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: a few questions. I don't know exactly what is type
Speaker 1: you're looking for, but I have a few. How come
Speaker 1: when I, um pour tap water into a cup its cloudy? Um?
Speaker 1: Did you guys go to Chuck E Cheeses when you
Speaker 1: were kids? And was there an animatronic can? Because I
Speaker 1: never saw one. I r L and I think that
Speaker 1: would be cool. Um. What are you guys as skincare routines?
Speaker 1: And if you have, it's an exhausting conversation. I understand
Speaker 1: if you don't want to do that. Um huh uh
Speaker 1: all right, I hope you guys are doing well. Very
Speaker 1: m fan Um. Other questions Uh all they're also boring.
Speaker 1: It's like, do you have you ever repotted a plant?
Speaker 1: Because like, I need to repot a plane. Okay, bye.
Speaker 1: I love the Lightning round from Dark. Um. I feel
Speaker 1: like we should just like all go around and answer
Speaker 1: all four questions. Oh yeah, alright, okay, should we just start? Okay?
Speaker 1: Why is tap water cloudy when you poured in a cup?
Speaker 1: I always thought it was because there were bubbles bubbles,
Speaker 1: because then like if you leave it long enough, it
Speaker 1: is kind of weird. Is that does that happen in
Speaker 1: in l A? Because it definitely happens everywhere in New York.
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, I also think the top water in
Speaker 1: New York is better than the top water in l A.
Speaker 1: It is, it definitely is. Maybe the cloudiness is like
Speaker 1: delicious fluoride um. The the rookie move of the few
Speaker 1: people who moved from l A to New York is
Speaker 1: that they have brittle pictures, which is just like you
Speaker 1: don't need it. It's fine everything else, Well, we don't
Speaker 1: have the fluoride. Also because they thought that it was
Speaker 1: gonna like allow communists to put messages into your brain. Well,
Speaker 1: to be fair, if you overdo it on the flooride,
Speaker 1: your teeth turned brown. Really yes, so don't drink too
Speaker 1: much tap water? Yeah, well, it's just if you were
Speaker 1: getting like floride treatments using floridated tap water, you need
Speaker 1: us in floridated toothpaste and drinking a ton of top water,
Speaker 1: you run the risk. Okay. Now I don't remember any
Speaker 1: of the details about why we don't have fluoride and
Speaker 1: California top water. We still did, I know we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't. We're like the only piece that doesn't. I
Speaker 1: think I'm going to find outa tell you next time
Speaker 1: question to question two, and I couldn't check to understand
Speaker 1: this an animatronic aunt an animatronic Okay, So she asked
Speaker 1: if we had gone to Chucky Cheeses and if we
Speaker 1: had seen an animatronic because she never saw one in
Speaker 1: real life ant but in animatronic, no, it would have
Speaker 1: been it would have been Charles Entertainment Cheese. Yeah, Chucky Cheese.
Speaker 1: Charles Entertainment Cheese is his name, is his real real
Speaker 1: full name. Um, But he's not animatronic. He's a man
Speaker 1: in a suit. No, there's animatronics. There is animated them.
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. They got rid
Speaker 1: of the animatronics. But in the eighties there were animatronics.
Speaker 1: So this is the true. This is the millennial old
Speaker 1: millennial divide. But that's weird that they would have done that.
Speaker 1: Now they're doing. They got rid of them because they're
Speaker 1: like expensive to repair and they were terrifying. I'm like,
Speaker 1: did you ever see them? I think so. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the thing about Chuck E Cheese is it
Speaker 1: was such a like event place to go to that
Speaker 1: I did not form the bond around like whatever characters
Speaker 1: they tried to sell you on at Chuck E Cheese,
Speaker 1: the same nay that you do even like a McDonald's.
Speaker 1: Like I definitely remember Grimace and the Hamburgler, but I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you. I know that there were other characters
Speaker 1: that like populated the land of Chunky Chucky Cheese Chuck
Speaker 1: E Cheese, but I don't remember them. Um, it's just
Speaker 1: Chucky Cheese. And then uh, he has like a band
Speaker 1: and when it is someone's birthday, the band would like
Speaker 1: rise up on this. I do remember that because you
Speaker 1: grew up in the eats. And then, uh, my boyfriend
Speaker 1: who is from the South says, they didn't have Chucky
Speaker 1: Cheese and instead they had Showbiz pizza, which was like
Speaker 1: a rip off of Chucky Cheese, or maybe Chucky Cheese
Speaker 1: riped off Showbiz Pizza, but it was the same idea
Speaker 1: or it was like an animatronic band rises out the
Speaker 1: rock a fire explosion, and then that guy made a
Speaker 1: documentary about it a little while ago where the guy
Speaker 1: like bought the whole band. We had a place locally
Speaker 1: in Tacoma, Washington, shout out anybody from Tacoma called Pizza
Speaker 1: and Pipes that had a live organist, like a huge
Speaker 1: organ that took up the entire room, and it was awesome.
Speaker 1: He could play, he could do any requests at all.
Speaker 1: That was where we always went after like softball and
Speaker 1: oh we always went to Shaky's. I feel like I
Speaker 1: was just talking about we're talking about and we're talking
Speaker 1: about where you go after the like the sports tournament,
Speaker 1: the soccer tournament trophy where they give you the participation
Speaker 1: trophy if you're a Cadi baded sports. My old thing
Speaker 1: growing up was we had we would go to the
Speaker 1: really shitty McDonald's, but tell them about Stu Letters. Do
Speaker 1: you know about Stu Leonards? I think it actually closed,
Speaker 1: but that was like the only real East Coast It
Speaker 1: was a destination grocery store. And I'm trying to remember
Speaker 1: if it was in like mon Talk or nut. It
Speaker 1: was in some place that was a drive outside the
Speaker 1: city and it was a grocery store with like I mean,
Speaker 1: it was amazing. It had animatronic cows, animatronic chickens. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was like the kind of place where you
Speaker 1: went and like the groceries all seemed really fancy and
Speaker 1: they were all like your towards. Like it was like
Speaker 1: a bougie dream of like kids food. Like you would
Speaker 1: buy eggs and you'd see like the animatronic chickens as
Speaker 1: if they were like laying the eggs that you would buy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and they had like a lot of samples.
Speaker 1: But it was my favorite place. And I think it
Speaker 1: closed a couple of years ago, but that was that
Speaker 1: was another big thing of like, oh, let's take a
Speaker 1: weekend trip to this fun grocery store. That sounds like
Speaker 1: it was No, it sounds it was pretty grocery store.
Speaker 1: It was pretty awesome. A true dream. Um. Have you
Speaker 1: guys ever seen the Five Nights of Freddie's video game? Uh,
Speaker 1: it's they're making a movie of it. It was popular
Speaker 1: with kids. It's like a guy who made this video
Speaker 1: game and as like the only video game he made.
Speaker 1: It's like a homemade video game called Five Nights at Freddy's,
Speaker 1: and it's about your the security guard at a pizza
Speaker 1: chain that is clearly Chucky cheeses is called Freddy's. And
Speaker 1: it's the scariest game because the whole thing in the
Speaker 1: game is that you just have five surveillance cameras and
Speaker 1: you just click on the windows to see the different
Speaker 1: rooms of the You see the different rooms of the
Speaker 1: pizza place other than the security room that you're in,
Speaker 1: and at a certain point in the night, the animals
Speaker 1: animatronics come to life and start walking towards the security room,
Speaker 1: and you have to make it through the night, so
Speaker 1: you keep like clicking on the cameras to see how
Speaker 1: close they're getting, and they just start like in these
Speaker 1: like scary positions in the scary surveillance rooms. Um, and
Speaker 1: then they either get to you before the night is
Speaker 1: over and eat you, or you make it through the night,
Speaker 1: and then you have to do it for four more nights.
Speaker 1: And it's great because it's like a weird it's the
Speaker 1: weirdest game play. It's like so slowly, Yeah, they don't
Speaker 1: you don't see them move. You just see them when
Speaker 1: you click on the lights on the pause in place,
Speaker 1: so they just it's really frightening. And I think they've
Speaker 1: made like a bunch of sequels to the game, but
Speaker 1: are all kind of the same but with like more animatronics.
Speaker 1: But it's such a simple concept and it's really it's
Speaker 1: really scary um and kids love it, Like I It's
Speaker 1: a thing that kids like, which is interesting because those
Speaker 1: kids never went to Chucky Cheese, so it's not based
Speaker 1: on like nostalgia, because that that fucking animatronic band was
Speaker 1: so scary because they were so they were so rickety,
Speaker 1: you know, even though they were like theoretically top of
Speaker 1: the line, there was something so off brand and kind
Speaker 1: of like uncanny value about it. UM. That reminds me
Speaker 1: of the really scary show I watched on the plane
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas that was called Spy in the Wild.
Speaker 1: It was narrated by David Tennant and it was like
Speaker 1: a BBC Nature documentary, but it was about placing robot
Speaker 1: animals in animal packs to observe the animals. So they
Speaker 1: made like fake baby animal but then they were so
Speaker 1: obviously robots, so they'd be panning across like African wolf pups,
Speaker 1: and then they get to this one wolf pop and
Speaker 1: it's a robot with a robot, I like a camera
Speaker 1: lens I and I couldn't get through it because I
Speaker 1: was so it triggered some uncanny values where the other
Speaker 1: animals just like, you know, the other animals like accepted
Speaker 1: it as they were like they just think it's one
Speaker 1: of them, and you were, like, nobody thinks since one
Speaker 1: of them. There was one where it was like a
Speaker 1: crocodile like picking up all the crocodile picks up all
Speaker 1: its babies in its mouth to carry them to like
Speaker 1: the water, and it just kind of sees the robot
Speaker 1: one just like whatever, like crunch, I'll take you. But
Speaker 1: it was so it was yeah, yes, I m Darcy's
Speaker 1: last couple of questions. Uh I I do actually plead
Speaker 1: that that's too exhausting for me to get into. And
Speaker 1: I also don't want to run the risk of like plugging. Um, Hey,
Speaker 1: if anybody wants us to recommend their skincare line, just
Speaker 1: send me, send me the free stuff. Yeah. Yeah, here's
Speaker 1: all I'll ask because how many steps? How many steps? One, two, three, three? Nothing? Nothing?
Speaker 1: How about you too? Yeah? Yeah, what about you? I
Speaker 1: can't get Yeah, I can't, but I do have to
Speaker 1: say that occasionally I add a mask so that I'm
Speaker 1: bordering on three. Yeah, okay, Tess, you will know the
Speaker 1: answer to the repotting a plant. I love plants. It's
Speaker 1: crazy how much recently I've loved plants even more because
Speaker 1: I realized that those like figs that are in all
Speaker 1: of their in every like interiors magazine and stuff, and
Speaker 1: they're described as looking like babies. They have the broad
Speaker 1: rounded leaves and they're kind of fig but they don't
Speaker 1: bear fruit. But you can take one of the leaves
Speaker 1: off those things, put it in a glass of water
Speaker 1: and give it like it takes a long time, like
Speaker 1: six to eight weeks, and then as soon as it
Speaker 1: will sprout roots and then you can repot it. But
Speaker 1: those plants are expensive and they're beautiful, and so I
Speaker 1: just did that, but just learned about taking clippings and
Speaker 1: making plants. I've done it for a while, but I
Speaker 1: had never done it like I hadn't done it with
Speaker 1: green onions, and I didn't know that you could do
Speaker 1: it with U with tree. I didn't have any I
Speaker 1: tried to do with green onions recently and I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get it to work. I don't know what
Speaker 1: you couldn't make it, but I put mind getting northeast light,
Speaker 1: and I found that that help. No one's for real
Speaker 1: because with orchids too, you need to get the north
Speaker 1: or the east light. I think is that's the only
Speaker 1: way I can cacorn. You know, I was literally getting
Speaker 1: the southwest light. So this explains everything. Great question, Darcy,
Speaker 1: A great series of questions, Darcy. Thank you for calling in. Yeah, Darcy,
Speaker 1: come on nightcall. Yeah, Darcy, come on nightcall. So, guys,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I am deleting my Facebook. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I haven't been signed in for a while, but I
Speaker 1: was very impressed that you were actually deleting it. Trus,
Speaker 1: We're what's your status, dude, I don't care. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like I I believe that all of these.
Speaker 1: So we're bringing this up because of the data breach, which,
Speaker 1: which to be technically clear, is not a breach, but
Speaker 1: because Facebook security with information is like so lax and terrible,
Speaker 1: they didn't like qualify as a breach for them because like,
Speaker 1: you can find out so much about people on Facebook
Speaker 1: without technically violating any of their security. So there's that. Uh,
Speaker 1: but yeah, the go ahead though this this breach, this
Speaker 1: the Cambridge Analytica UM story that came out in The Guardian,
Speaker 1: in the New York Times, and that data was used
Speaker 1: by the Mercer and Bannon think tank, right, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: they also like they did it through a quiz. They
Speaker 1: did through a quiz, and they gave it like an
Speaker 1: Anglo you know, tell there for white nationalists. They gave
Speaker 1: it like a real anglophone name that would make idiots
Speaker 1: be like, oh, a trusted source for Cambridge, anneal would Cambridge.
Speaker 1: But I think what it really comes down to with
Speaker 1: all this stuff that, you know, in terms of the
Speaker 1: legality of it is so hazy because it's so new. Um,
Speaker 1: the idea that we've let all this stuff happen and
Speaker 1: now we have to roll it back and regulate it
Speaker 1: seems like pretty hard to do, like kind of like already.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the thing that's so insane that
Speaker 1: was only like banned from Facebook as of was that
Speaker 1: when you know, you you get you sign up for
Speaker 1: some app or service or something that uses your Facebook
Speaker 1: profile and then they ask, you know, uh, can we
Speaker 1: look at your your your friends list, or your your
Speaker 1: information on your about you or your likes and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, and um, for a very very long time,
Speaker 1: like it was totally fair game to use like have
Speaker 1: in among those permissions be to like look at the
Speaker 1: profiles of your friends. So like even if you personally
Speaker 1: we're not going to give permission to an app to
Speaker 1: you know, look at your information, one of any of
Speaker 1: your friends could do that, and then it's like who cares,
Speaker 1: Like you're still you're still being used for that purpose.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I I kind of early
Speaker 1: on I've had a policy I do not like things
Speaker 1: on Facebook, so I try to make it very hard
Speaker 1: for it to know how to target me because I
Speaker 1: just don't have any Like I know people who like
Speaker 1: everything so that they get like the weirdest mixed possible
Speaker 1: of stuff. I'm a big like yeah, they like to
Speaker 1: like stuff that they don't like in order to see
Speaker 1: what like someone else might get from their feeds. So
Speaker 1: they get all this weird, like all right meme stuff
Speaker 1: because I want to see what those people's feeds look like.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that Okay, So that's what the
Speaker 1: deal is with this stuff is, you know, didn't influence
Speaker 1: the election, and my feeling about it is like there's
Speaker 1: this group of people that are like still looking for
Speaker 1: this authoritarian out from the reality that we live in now,
Speaker 1: you know, who are like Mueller is going to fix it,
Speaker 1: or like we're gonna sue Facebook and that's going to
Speaker 1: fix it. You know, like we're gonna put the genie
Speaker 1: back in the bottle, which is just like, no, we
Speaker 1: clearly can't do that. And if these people were making
Speaker 1: memes and fake accounts and all this ship all this
Speaker 1: like cyber you know, seating stuff that they were definitely doing,
Speaker 1: but they were stoking you know, you can't stoke racism
Speaker 1: that isn't already there, you know, like America was having
Speaker 1: already like a crisis of escalating police violence. That like
Speaker 1: was an easy thing for people to prey on. But
Speaker 1: but a lot of it is also the thing we
Speaker 1: always talk about, like you know, the like like make
Speaker 1: Nazis scared again. Like like I think a lot of
Speaker 1: that that meme stuff can make people feel the permission
Speaker 1: to like exercise and bully like people that they wouldn't
Speaker 1: normally feel like because they would feel more alone in
Speaker 1: their beliefs. And then you like see enough memes on
Speaker 1: the Internet and you're like, hey, more people think the
Speaker 1: way I do. And I think that that gives you
Speaker 1: much more of a past. Well, these people found their community.
Speaker 1: I mean, like Jay Kang was tweeting about this today,
Speaker 1: What up ja King? Come on? I call uh uh?
Speaker 1: And he was saying to that, Yeah, it's like this
Speaker 1: is a place for alienated white men on the internet.
Speaker 1: They you know, they knew that they were all these
Speaker 1: white men who felt forgotten or whatever, um, young and old,
Speaker 1: who were like the world is changing in ways that
Speaker 1: don't benefit me, and that they could find like a
Speaker 1: community online of people that were like fuck everyone else
Speaker 1: except us, like let's torture them all. Uh. And you
Speaker 1: know you were saying also that like four Chan in
Speaker 1: Japan also turned into like a nationalist long ago, you know, right,
Speaker 1: which is also like again kind of off last week's episode,
Speaker 1: like that's not what we thought the internet was going
Speaker 1: to do. And when you oh, go ahead, oh go ahead.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that's like also like more of
Speaker 1: a macro thing in looking at this story is just
Speaker 1: how it only took one eight year cycle to go
Speaker 1: from like wow, the first presidency that was one with
Speaker 1: Facebook to like, oh god, the second presidency that was
Speaker 1: one with Facebook it's just like because there was so
Speaker 1: much optimism about and like this has also been brought
Speaker 1: up to like the Obama campaign used a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of like you know, information collecting apps, but
Speaker 1: there was much more transparency with those, and it was
Speaker 1: like not it was like you know, direct, like you
Speaker 1: were giving and like what is that Shepherd Faery poster?
Speaker 1: If not like a meme? Totally. Yeah, It's just like
Speaker 1: there there's a there's a way for all of these
Speaker 1: you know, supposedly good and powerful currents to be used
Speaker 1: for ill. Well, if it's powerful, it can be used
Speaker 1: in both directions that I also find the political discourse
Speaker 1: on Facebook is um it's it seems as though people
Speaker 1: like lead with their pain a lot in a way
Speaker 1: that they don't on Twitter and Instagram. And I'm guessing
Speaker 1: that's because it's older people. Um, but I think that
Speaker 1: it was just like more text based. It's like a
Speaker 1: good place to a long I mean it's also family
Speaker 1: members are often like the disagreements that I see on
Speaker 1: Facebook are often between family members, like you know, a
Speaker 1: younger person and then maybe an aunt or an uncle
Speaker 1: or you know, grandparent or whatever. And I think it's
Speaker 1: given me I mean, granted, like I'm not I'm among
Speaker 1: the people who are not big fans of news outlets
Speaker 1: giving a voice to the same conservative people over and
Speaker 1: over to make the same conservative points about why they
Speaker 1: voted for Donald Trump. I wanted to listen the first time,
Speaker 1: and then I'm not anymore my same story over and
Speaker 1: over over, exactly. I I like watching the debate though,
Speaker 1: between those people, because I do feel like I get
Speaker 1: very isolated and indignant in my opinion, and seeing kind
Speaker 1: of like you know, being a boyor and other people's
Speaker 1: politically based family dramas gives me a really I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a healthier insight into how people are negotiating
Speaker 1: their politics now, and like if they can find a
Speaker 1: middle ground, which often they can't. It's like a civil
Speaker 1: war thing, families divided by that, and you don't on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like you're you're getting a younger
Speaker 1: demographic that's um most interacting among people who don't know
Speaker 1: each other, or they know each other from work, like
Speaker 1: they're both political writers or you know, working in the
Speaker 1: same field and they're having an argument. But you don't
Speaker 1: often see people online having these fights amongst themselves that
Speaker 1: really kind of could be had on the phone, but
Speaker 1: for some reason they're happening on someone's wall, and I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's fascinating. But I think the
Speaker 1: thing you said about people coming on Facebook and leading
Speaker 1: with their pain is like so true, and like even
Speaker 1: outside of the context of a political campaign or like
Speaker 1: a an election season, like when I was so I'm
Speaker 1: I'm deleting everything and I'm kind of going back and
Speaker 1: looking at because I archived everything just for my own
Speaker 1: personal information, and just like realizing how the most active
Speaker 1: I ever was on Facebook. And I was never like
Speaker 1: super active on it, but was definitely when I was
Speaker 1: like the most like having the most problems and was
Speaker 1: like the saddest and wanted to go on and just
Speaker 1: like demonstrate my sadness to like all my friends, which
Speaker 1: I'm sure was super fun for all of them. But
Speaker 1: did it help, I mean, did you find it there?
Speaker 1: I felt I always really knew it was like a
Speaker 1: new way to do that. And I think everybody of
Speaker 1: our generation that was like the inn you know, the
Speaker 1: pioneers of using social media and getting it right when
Speaker 1: it first started. You know that we've all gone through
Speaker 1: the cycle of being like, yeah, my parents thought it
Speaker 1: was scary to like talk to people on the internet,
Speaker 1: but like we're beyond that now. And but again, I
Speaker 1: think there's just like all these ways in which it
Speaker 1: does overlap with real life that we're still coming to
Speaker 1: terms with. And this is a big one of them.
Speaker 1: Is like, hey, something that happened on the Internet totally
Speaker 1: influenced things that happened in real life. So it's not
Speaker 1: just this like repository where you put all your like
Speaker 1: dark energy. It's and you know, attention seeking it like
Speaker 1: you can have real life consequence. There's no it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no divider anymore between like your I AM chats
Speaker 1: and seeing people have to say too. In other defenses
Speaker 1: of Facebook, which I totally agree needs to be held
Speaker 1: accountable for the day, I mean, the data breach is terrible,
Speaker 1: and I think it does need to be held a cable.
Speaker 1: But I can't ditch my account also because I've been
Speaker 1: playing scrabble on that thing for years. But that scrabble
Speaker 1: app has no doubt been like scraping your information. You
Speaker 1: can have it all, No I have, but I play
Speaker 1: the same three I've been playing the same three people
Speaker 1: who are friends from college um, and I've been playing
Speaker 1: them for so long and it's like I just can't
Speaker 1: cut that court. And then the other thing is like
Speaker 1: I have to say I have a secret mom's group
Speaker 1: on Facebook and that I can't participating communities on I mean,
Speaker 1: that's my feeling to those is like they're all evil.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of other evil companies that were all
Speaker 1: like entangled with Ralph's Club, and you know, quitting one
Speaker 1: won't has not like and I I it's easier for
Speaker 1: me to quit than I think for a lot of
Speaker 1: other people because but Facebook does have the way like
Speaker 1: it has can have multiple tentacles around different portions of
Speaker 1: your life. I just feel and I feel like with
Speaker 1: this story specifically, what I'm afraid of happening with people
Speaker 1: rallying around it with like the neoliberal take on it
Speaker 1: is like we'll send Mark Zuckerberg to jail and then
Speaker 1: everything will be I don't think that's what the idea is.
Speaker 1: I think it's like we need to have a lot
Speaker 1: more regulation over this tool that everybody has in everybody's life.
Speaker 1: How why didn't we talk about that when we started.
Speaker 1: Everybody was just so like when there's a when there's
Speaker 1: a um, when there's a democrat and in the presidency,
Speaker 1: then we're all like, oh, all of the big businesses
Speaker 1: are good and fine and they're like working in our favor,
Speaker 1: Like that was how we were that Yeah, and now
Speaker 1: we kind of have the Wold pole from our eyes
Speaker 1: in a way, and we realized, oh no, they were
Speaker 1: always just working in their own interests and yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean we all saw The Social Network, like all
Speaker 1: those guys are evil, but like but they were played
Speaker 1: by just so it was fun. Uh well, I mean
Speaker 1: I think also, like there is a thing about movies
Speaker 1: like The Social Network and Wall Street and Wolf of
Speaker 1: Wall Street that enforced this idea that like you have
Speaker 1: to be ruthless, you have to be an evil on
Speaker 1: empathetic person to succeed, And I don't think that's true.
Speaker 1: I think we should especially given you know, the political climate. Now,
Speaker 1: I think we're all seeing like, oh maybe actually, like
Speaker 1: letting narcissistic sociopaths like rise to the top of every
Speaker 1: field is like a terrible idea. Well, once we can
Speaker 1: legislate that will be on a really good path when
Speaker 1: we can ban assholes. Uh well, we should probably call
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