1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: This is the Action Network podcast, but this one. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: Is good. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: All right. Here we go from We're throwing in job spect, 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: I'm hitting it to cash touchdown. We see most gamble 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: is when they go to gamble, they go to win. God, 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: that's incredible. 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: Big bank, small bank. 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: I like to make money, all right. 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: It is the ultimate kaban want to pull. 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: And we are underway. 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to another episode of strong Side Fridays 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: Here on the Action Network podcast. I'm your host, Brandon 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: Anderson here as always on Friday with Raheem Palmer, getting 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: you ready for some week ten action. We are playing 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: eighteen holes and we have passed the first half. We 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: are on the back half now we're hitting the home stretch. Rahim, 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: How did we already finish half of the season. 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, Tom is flying. It's just I 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: just can't believe how fast is gone. And I don't 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: know as fast as its gone. We still have so 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: much more of the season to be decided. So I 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: think that's the most exciting part. 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: It is exciting it more and more, it feels, especially 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: with this extra game. Now it feels like September is 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 3: kind of the continuance of preseason and you know, especially 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: the veteran teams or veteran coaches are kind of getting 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: things going. And in October it's like, all right, we're 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: really starting to see some of these top teams separate themselves. 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: And well, we thought we knew what was happening in 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: the last week, happened and all the good teams lost. 31 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: So we will see what we think about the games 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: this week. Of course, as usual, reminder to download the 33 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: app if you haven't done so yet again, how have 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: you not done that yet? Download the app, Follow all 35 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: all our picks, follow the sports, get all the live 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: updates on there. Great way to track everything and see 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: how much money we are winning from week to week. 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: Odds today are from BETTMGM, the official odds provider of 39 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: the Action Network podcast. So if you listen last week, 40 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: you know that we had a new format. We're going 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: back to the well again this week. So here's what 42 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 3: we're doing him. We are doing three marquee games. We 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: picked our three favorite games on the slate and just 44 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: games that we know you're watching, games that are going 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: to be on TV this week on your television. We're 46 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: gonna really break them down kind of like we do 47 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: on the Monday night game. So matchups, analysis, injuries, betting, angle, 48 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: the whole works. So last week too, we did pretty well. 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: We did Packers Chiefs last week. You and I both 50 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: liked the Packers. Packers covered. It was ugly, but the 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: Packers got it. We did Brown's Bengals. We both liked 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: the Browns last week. Brown's got the win in a 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: big way on that one. So I think that's setting 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: up well. We will hit those games. We'll do a 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 3: few other best bets and look ahead lines at the end. 56 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: But let's get down to business and start out with 57 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: our week ten picks. 58 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: Let's get down. 59 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: Let's get down to business. 60 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: So let's get down. 61 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: Let's get done business. Let's get down. Let's get down business. 62 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: All right, So marquee game number one, yea, if it happens, 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: if we actually get these quarterbacks out there, Seattle Seahawks, 64 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers. For a third straight week, we don't 65 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: really know for sure which Packers team were getting because 66 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: of COVID. We lost Devanta Adams at Arizona that Thursday 67 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: night game. We lost Aaron Rodgers in Kansas City last week. 68 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 3: We think Rogers should play. He's supposed to clear on Saturday. 69 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: Certainly to me with the line here, it looks like 70 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: the books expect Rodgers to play Russell Wilson as back 71 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: Green Bay right now minus three and a half at home. 72 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: I'm starting to see that even slip to minus three 73 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: at some books. It was five on Sunday, so it's 74 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: been slowly trickling down since then. Russell Wilson confirmed back this. 75 00:03:54,240 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: This line definitely assumes Rogers is playing, right rahem. 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: Where's is now? Like I think it assumes that he's 77 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: not playing. Really, yeah, I mean you got to think 78 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: this line has come down from five and a half, 79 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: So it's I guess you because I guess you could 80 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: assume that Rogers is playing right now, but it's continued. 81 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: My whole thing is that it is continuing to drop. 82 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: So like, is it assuming it's not playing or is 83 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: it a hedge that's kind of in the middle right now? 84 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a hedge, just in the middle, 85 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: like they're not completely pulling it off the board yet. 86 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: But it's just like you saw yesterday, this note was 87 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: three and a half. 88 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: Yep, So it's just like, let's slip him. 89 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's slipping, and then it's just there's so much 90 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: uncertainty right now, like with Rogers, and then also there's 91 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: this thing to where it's like he could be cleared 92 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: on Saturday, but at the same time, he still hasn't 93 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: practiced or like been with the team in two weeks. 94 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: So it's like, even if he plays, I don't think 95 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: you're getting Aaron Rodgers. Like I think you're getting He's 96 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: getting Aaron Rodgers, but you're not getting MVP level Aaron Rodgers. 97 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: He's spent more time with Pat McAfee the last two 98 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 3: weeks than he is with his team practicing, which is 99 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: never really a great thing. So last week we saw 100 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: that the line for green Bay dropped basically a full 101 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: touchdown seven points when it went from Rogers to Jordan Love. 102 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: We saw Jordan Love. Now we got a whole game 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 3: of that. We saw a little too much Jordan Love 104 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: for my liking, if I'm being honest. So what did 105 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: you think looking back that seven point line move? What 106 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: did you think is that the right line move for Rogers. 107 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: I know you said your model had Rogers more value 108 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: closer to ten, but Love was a little better than 109 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: the usual. Guys, if you could do it again last week, 110 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: would you do seven for Rogers or if it does 111 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: end up being. 112 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: Out, should it be more or less than that. 113 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: I think seven was the right number. Like, I mean, 114 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: they end up covering the number, so like I think 115 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: that was the right That was the right number. But 116 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: it to me, I think it was clear that if 117 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: Rogers is out there, the Packers probably win that game. 118 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: So it's comfortably maybe yeah, maybe even comfortably so so 119 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: maybe like the fact that they could have won that 120 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: game comfortably. Maybe maybe it said the line should be higher. So, 121 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: but he just didn't look good at all. He was 122 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: nineteen to thirty four, one hundred ninety yards, one touchdown, 123 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: one interception. It's just it almost felt like they were hamstrung. 124 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: But at the same time, the one thing you got 125 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: to remember is that they didn't have a full week 126 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: of practice with Jordan Love, Like he kind of just 127 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 1: got thrown fire when Aaron Rodgers contracted COVID. So this week, 128 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: even if he doesn't play, they're going to have a 129 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: full week of practice with him, so he should look 130 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: a little bit better this week. 131 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it worries me that Jordan Love didn't look good. 132 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 3: It worried me more that it felt like the Packers 133 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: coaches knew that Jordan Love wasn't gonna look good. Like 134 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: it felt like they were really doing all that they 135 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 3: could to hide him and not really let him screw 136 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 3: things up too bad. And I get it, you know, 137 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: it's it's a first start in the NFL, but it 138 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: is a first round pick, Like you shouldn't have to 139 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: have training wheels on a guy who's had two years 140 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: to prepare. And I know it's still a little last sack, 141 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: but the guy is supposed to be, Like he's the 142 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: future of the franchise. He's clearly their next quarterback. You 143 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 3: don't take him the first round if that's not the case. 144 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: And like, the line is good, the run game is good, 145 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: you have receivers. I was a little worried that they 146 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: that they were so protective of him. So I know 147 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: that you have already got a bet in on this game. 148 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: So my question for you is this, as a handicapper, 149 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: and we don't know with Rogers yet, are you betting 150 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: at this point assuming Rogers plays doesn't play, are you 151 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: are you also hedging on your bat like as you 152 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: handicap this game right now on a Thursday afternoon, what 153 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: are you trying to do with Rogers. 154 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: See, for me, like with the COVID thing, I kind 155 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: of always have to assume that the guy's not playing. 156 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: So for me, like I like Seattle in this game, 157 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: I like him plus I took him plus three and 158 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: a half. Also took him money line plus one sixty four. 159 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at both scenarios. If Rogers doesn't play, 160 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: that means we have a matchup with Russell Wilson versus 161 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: Shortan Luck. And we noted Russell Wilson is actually practicing, 162 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: so yeah, he may be a little rusty. But if 163 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: I got to take a rusty Russell Wilson versus Jordan 164 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: Love who just didn't look good last week or hasn't 165 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: looked good at all, Like if you reback some of 166 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: his reports in training camp, they were talking about how 167 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: he was missing throws and stuff like that. 168 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: So if you mean Russell rusty Russell Wilson versus. 169 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 1: Him with three and a half points and plus money, 170 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: I gotta take it. And then when you look at 171 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: the other scenario, if Rogers is actually cleared to play, 172 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: that means he hasn't played football in two weeks and 173 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: he's just being thrown in a fire and we've all 174 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: seen how we've seen how players in every sport from 175 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: basketball to the NFL have struggled when they returned from COVID. 176 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: So that means I'm getting Russell Wilson with three and 177 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: a half points versus a quarterback who hasn't practicing two 178 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: weeks to struggle with COVID. So I like those angles. 179 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: And then there's other angles that I'm breaking down as well. 180 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you like it both the ways. 181 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: For me, I guess I'm assuming that Rogers will play, 182 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: and maybe that's not a safe assumption, especially as this 183 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 3: line drops a little bit. You know, he's supposed to 184 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: be potentially cleared Saturday. It's in Green Bay, so that helps. 185 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to like fly out after that or 186 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: anything like that. But my thing is I love Seattle anyway. Like, 187 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: even if even if Rogers was not in COVID and 188 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: this was just Seattle on the road as more than 189 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: a field goal underdog, I still really like Seattle here. 190 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: We've been talking all you have been waiting to fade 191 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 3: Green Bay because we thought this team wasn't quite as 192 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: good as what their record has been. Are we sure 193 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 3: Green htter team here like Seattle? Has been pretty quality. 194 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: There are four games without Russell Wilson. They were only 195 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: down six to the Rams when they lost him in 196 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 3: game until like the final seconds. They lost by nine. 197 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: They lost by three of the Steelers, they lost by 198 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 3: three of the Saints. Those are pretty respectable results when 199 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: you have Gino Smith that quarterback. 200 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: They crushed the Jags. 201 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: I think that was a fine stretch without Russell Wilson, 202 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: considering they've literally never done it before, Like there's no 203 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: Pete Carroll without Russell Wilson. This is what we've seen 204 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: for a decade. Seattle is twelfth in DVOA, green Bay 205 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: is fifteenth. Seattle's offense is eighth, green Bay is eleven. 206 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: Seattle's passing DVA is higher, Seattle's run DVOA is higher, 207 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: And remember that counts all the Gino Smith games. There's 208 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: no accounting for that in those numbers. Their special teams 209 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: is better. And I think Russell Wilson's numbers are better 210 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: than Rogers this season. I just think Seattle is good. 211 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: I think that they're being a little overlooked here. I 212 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 3: love them here. Like we've we've seen so many Seattle 213 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: games where it comes down to a final possession, Like, 214 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: come on, even if Wilson and Rogers, if this is 215 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: if they're at their best, this is a field goal game. 216 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: This is a who gets the ball last and comes 217 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: down for the win at the end, So, especially before 218 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: it drops to three or lower, I definitely want to 219 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: get the hook. I want to get this above a 220 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: field goal because like Seattle, even when they lose so 221 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: often loses just one of those like close late games. 222 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 3: So many of their games come down late either way. 223 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 3: So I like Seattle lot here, I think even more 224 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: than you, just because I'm assuming Rogers basically plays and 225 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: is fine, and I still love Seattle here. I'm a 226 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: little bummed I didn't take them at plus five. I 227 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: was kind of waiting out the news and does a 228 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: bad decision because the News was only going to ever 229 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: move it towards Seattle once Russell Wilson was cleared. But 230 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: plus three and a half, I'm seeing plus one sixty 231 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: on the money line. I'm assuming that you might like 232 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: Seattle as a teaser spot here as well at three 233 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 3: three and a half. 234 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely like Seattle's a teasers, but I think 235 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of good teaser lakes this week. I 236 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: mean you've mentioned it all. To me, I think Seattle 237 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: has plenty of advantages they think they could take advantage of. 238 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: And the biggest thing with this Packers team is that, 239 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: to me, their defense has been playing above their head, 240 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: like there's no way when you look at their schedule, 241 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: really look at who they played. They held Arizona under 242 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: twenty one points, so I mean pretty much twenty more points. 243 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: They held Washington to points, They held the Bears to 244 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: fourteen points. But when you look at all of those games, 245 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: Washington was in the red zone a million times and 246 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: just couldn't live budget. Yeah, they just couldn't. They just couldn't. 247 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: They probably should have won that game outright where they 248 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: just couldn't get it done. Justin phiels Is until last 249 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: night's game against the Stiller is he really he really 250 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: struggled And then I think Kyler Murray was a little 251 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: banged up for that Cardinals game. So to me, I 252 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: think this is a defense that's due for some regression. 253 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: When you look at their defensive metrics, their twenty six 254 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: in defensive success rate, they're allowing forty seven point seven 255 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: percent of the place great out successful the run game, 256 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: which is which Seattle does really well. They're twenty six 257 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: in EPA for play and twenty eight from rushing success rates, 258 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: so they're gonna be able to ease Russell Dack with 259 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: this run run game, and they're gonna be able to 260 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: pass the ball. So and it's also when you look 261 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: at this Packers and they don't have a good pass rush. 262 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: They're twenty six and in pass rush fringry, So if 263 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: they can't get to the quarterback, they can't stop the run. 264 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 1: I think Seattle is in for a big day and 265 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: they should win this game outright. 266 00:12:59,520 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 267 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: I mean coming to the season, I was highing the Packers. 268 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: I had them for I have a ticket for most wins. 269 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 3: But the whole thing with the Packers was there are 270 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: five premium positions, and the Packers have a great player 271 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: at all five spots, and all five of them have 272 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: been in trouble this season. David Bachtiari maybe will be 273 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: back for this one. We're not sure yet. He looks 274 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 3: like he's practicing and activated, but they haven't had him 275 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 3: yet all season. Devonte Adams had the COVID protocol. Aaron 276 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: Rodgers of the COVID protocol, Jyed Alexander still supposed. He 277 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: is a long ways away. So that's the cornerback they're missing. 278 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: The Darius Smith they're still missing. So it's just the 279 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: stuff that's supposed to make green Bay really great. It's 280 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: trouble everywhere. So one other thing I want to say 281 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: on this game. If you like Seattle to win here, 282 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: I think you really have to like Seattle to make 283 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: the playoffs too. I'm seeing that at plus one to 284 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 3: ninety five, if Seattle gets this win, they still get 285 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 3: to play Washington, they play Houston, they play the Bears, 286 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: and the Lions. That's four wins that they should get 287 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 3: now that Willon in his back and presumably healthy. So 288 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: at this game, add those wins, you're eight wins already, 289 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: and the NFC wild Card is not exactly a super 290 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: fight at this point. So I don't you know, we 291 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: talked about them on our mid season pod. I don't 292 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: think they make the playoffs. It's too steep of a test. 293 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: They do still play Arizona twice, they play San fran 294 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: they play the Rams. That's the rest of the schedule. 295 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: It's those four easy games and four division opponents. I 296 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: don't think they can run the table, but plus one 297 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: ninety five to make the playoffs. If you like them 298 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: to win this game, I think this is the time 299 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: to grab that one to you. 300 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: What do you think about that? 301 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at 302 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: there at all. Especially with the extra playoff teams the 303 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: extra week. I think it gives Seattle an advantage. And 304 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, you're looking at some of the other teams 305 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: in the the NFC landscape, like I think Seattle's better 306 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: than Atlanta. Like, I just think they have teams that 307 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: they're much better than in that playoff than wildcard on space. 308 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: So I like it. 309 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to our second game. Went a 310 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: little long on that One's up to speed up these 311 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: next two. Sunday Night in Las Vegas, the Raiders host 312 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs. The Chiefs are two and a 313 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: half point favorites. I have been watching that line carefully 314 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: all week, waiting for it to budge in either direction, 315 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: and it is not moving. They are happy with that line. 316 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: They're just waiting for our money. So that's what I 317 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: want to start with. What do you make of this line? Like, 318 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: what did you see as the look ahead before this 319 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: season started? 320 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: And is this the right line. What's happening there? 321 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: I think this line is short. The look ahead line 322 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: on this game was my Chiefs minus seven before the 323 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: season started, and now we're sitting at two and a half. 324 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: I know, obviously Chiefs are just five and sixteen against 325 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: the spread in the last twenty one games, and just 326 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: they've only covered two games this season. They came against 327 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: the Philadephia Eagles and the Washington football team. But this 328 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: is a market, I think a lot of times sometimes 329 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: I like to look at the market as a whole 330 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: before even digging into the matchups, and at some point 331 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: the Chiefs kind of have to start covering if this 332 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: is this market is efficient, which I think it is. 333 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: And so I'm leaning the Chiefs in this direction, like 334 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: what do you what do you think? 335 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 3: So that's interesting because I am way the other direction 336 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: on this one. I think that what we're waiting on 337 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: is I think the books haven't adjusted yet. I think 338 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: that the books are like slowly nudging down and just 339 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: inviting give us your Chiefs money, bring us you're tired, 340 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: you're poor, you're your Chiefs money, yearning to breathe free. 341 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: They're just taking it all and keeping it for themselves. 342 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: At minus two and a half, They're just like, come on, 343 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: come on, really, is Patrick Mahomes just have to win 344 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: by a field goal? 345 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes will do it. I don't think so. 346 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: I honestly, I think the line is way off in 347 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: the other direction. 348 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: I think the Raiders should be favored. 349 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: I think the Raiders are the better team, and I 350 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: think the Raiders are gonna win, and like, yeah, the 351 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: look ahead was way off because the look ahead we 352 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: thought that the Raiders weren't gonna be good. We thought 353 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: the Chiefs were gonna be the Chiefs again. And I 354 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: just think, you know, there is value on a whole 355 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: season of data, and that first month doesn't not matter. 356 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 3: But if you look at just over these last this 357 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: last month of games, and not the first month and 358 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: not the last two years of Patrick Mahomes, I think 359 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 3: it's inarguable that the Raiders have been way the better 360 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 3: team over the last month. 361 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: Do you think that's true? 362 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: And what I think is that the Chief's been a 363 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: victim of turnovers, and I just think without these turnovers, 364 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: we're looking at the Chiefs as a completely different team. 365 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: They're they like, look at the team, they have a worse, 366 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: worst turnover differential forty nine Ers, the Jaguars, the Chests, 367 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: they have a minus non turnover differential. They have like 368 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: when you look at their interceptions, what do they have? 369 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: They have tennis interceptions to non fumbles, So it's just 370 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: to lose non fumbles that means you're just unlucky. Look 371 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: at the Raiders. The Raiders have eight giveaways the whole season, 372 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: so I just and they have one fumbled in separate interceptions. No. 373 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: I know, Patrick Mahomes, he's been quite reckless, but so 374 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: many stuff she even out eventually. And when you look 375 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: at what their offense is doing. Obviously they didn't play 376 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: well against Green Bay and they didn't play well against Tennessee, 377 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 1: but as a whole, when you look at their whole 378 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: entire resume, they still been one of the best offices 379 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: in the league. 380 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have bought that turnover argument a lot 381 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: better a couple of weeks ago. I don't feel like 382 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 3: that's what's happening anymore. Like early in the season, every week, somehow, 383 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 3: every week, you like the Chiefs would get in the 384 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: red zone and be about to score, and somehow it'd 385 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: be like, oh, the ball batted six times around in 386 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 3: the air and somehow the opponent came up with it again. 387 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: Like I one hundred percent bought the argument then, and 388 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 3: we kept betting on the Chiefs and being like, Okay, 389 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: they're fine, don't worry. The offense is moving the ball. 390 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: They're just getting these wonky turnovers they're leaving out. I 391 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: don't think that's what's happening in the last few weeks. 392 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: They're not moving the ball anymore, they're not getting the 393 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 3: ball downfield. They're they're like Patrick Mahomes just doesn't look 394 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: like Patrick Mahomes. And so here here are the numbers 395 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: for my argument and why I think the Raiders are 396 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: much better. So these are all over the last four 397 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: by EPA. The Raiders are in the second tier in 398 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: the tear NFL. Basically by full EPA, they're behind the 399 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: Cardinals and the Bucks, and then they're basically tied with 400 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 3: the Titans. That's where the Raiders ranked the Chiefs rank 401 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 3: outs average. Over that span. The Raiders are number two 402 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 3: in EPA on per run play, behind only the Ravens, 403 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: who we know are awesome at that. They're number one 404 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: in success rate on offense. The Chiefs during these last 405 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: four weeks are twenty eighth on EPA per pass play 406 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: twenty eighth. That is horrible. Patrick Mahomes EPA twenty second 407 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 3: out of twenty six quarterbacks. Here are the quarterbacks worse 408 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 3: on EPA over the last four weeks. Trevor Lawrence, Kaylor Hanike, 409 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, Sam Garnold, that's who. Patrick Mahomes has been 410 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 3: better than He's twenty first out of twenty six and 411 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: completion percentage over expectation. Der Carr is like fifth to 412 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 3: eighth in in those metrics. So I just think even 413 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 3: the defense, we've seen the Chiefs defense look a lot 414 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: better over the last four weeks, but have they really 415 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: they better against Heinike and Daniel Jones and Join Love. 416 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 3: They're still bad against Tennessee. That's the four weeks. I'm 417 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 3: not sure I can make so much out of that. 418 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 3: So I know, Look, the Raiders lost to the Giants 419 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: last week. 420 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: It was bad. I was on the Raiders then. I 421 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: wasn't not worry about it. 422 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 3: They were one and six in the red zone, they 423 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: had three turnovers. They're the thing we just talked about 424 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: with the Chiefs. That was just a lot of bad luck. 425 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: They still had a chance to tie in the final minutes. 426 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 3: I'm not too worried about that. To me, I've been 427 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 3: waiting on like you're waiting, I think, on the Chiefs 428 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: to finally regress to the mean, and the mean for 429 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 3: them is be good again. I'm waiting for the other thing. 430 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: I'm waiting for the ugly Chiefs game where it's just like, man, 431 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: we thought this team was not really doing it, but 432 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: they just came to Vegas and got crushed. And I 433 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: guess we kind of had that against the Titans a 434 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 3: few weeks ago, but we sort of threw it out. 435 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: And I just think that there's a chance here that 436 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 3: the Raiders are just a much better team. And I'm 437 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 3: waiting for that big game and for the books finally 438 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: be like, yeah, okay, you got us. The Chiefs aren't 439 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 3: very good. We're gonna have to adjust this a little more. 440 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 2: So. 441 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: I think that there's like a four or five points 442 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 3: of value in the Raiders paper on this game. 443 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 2: And I know that sounds crazy, but I like, I 444 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: love the Raiders here. 445 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, I just have it like I think 446 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: my model has it like rate a lot higher. 447 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 3: So yeah, well that makes sense too, because I know 448 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 3: your model I know your model is built against the 449 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 3: things I've just described, like to not go too much 450 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: on a recency bias. 451 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm normally that actual it's it's actually weighted towards 452 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: more recent games. So even with the interesting it being 453 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: rated towards more recent games, I have it at about three. 454 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: So okay, well, what is I don't play a lot 455 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: of totals. 456 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 3: As we know, I'm intrigued by under fifty two and 457 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 3: a half here the last four Chiefs games twenty thirty, seven, thirty, 458 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: and forty four points, so with their offense not really 459 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: scoring it almost even seems like they're doing a little 460 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: more ball control, like I think that they know that 461 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 3: they're struggling. So Chiefs, the last four Chiefs games have 462 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 3: averaged thirty three points a game, barely so, and this 463 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: line is rising too. So what do you think about 464 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: the under there? What's your model say about that? 465 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: My model actually puts it straight at fifty two, So 466 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: it's just it's pretty much right where it is if 467 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: I just used this season's numbers. Though, I do have 468 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: it at forty eight and a half, so that maybe 469 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: or like you may be owing to something with the 470 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: under us. See what the division game. A lot of 471 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: times we see these division games. These teams know each other, 472 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: so they tend to like goal under. 473 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, they did have two very high scoring games 474 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: last year. I think sixty six and seventy two points 475 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: on those. But to my credit, the Raiders did go 476 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: to Arrowhead and beat the Chiefs last year, so this 477 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 3: team knows they can hang with them. I just I 478 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: like the Raiders. We talked about them on Tuesday. I 479 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 3: like the Raiders plus six hundred in the division. And 480 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: if you like if you like them, this game, that 481 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: looks a lot better. 482 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: If you don't like. 483 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: Them this game, don't bet that, because if you're the 484 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: team that's going to win the division, you have to 485 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 3: win a home game against a frankly a relatively average 486 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: Chiefs team. 487 00:22:59,320 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 488 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: All right, let's let's go to our third game here, 489 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 3: Saints Titans in Tennessee. The Titans have been red hot, 490 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 3: absolutely like probably the hottest team in the NFL. Tennessee 491 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: is minus three, dropping a little bit. I'm seeing two 492 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: and a half at some books, but it's held strong 493 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 3: and about a field goal. I'm very curious, where what 494 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: does your model do with this game? 495 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: My model makes this getting closer to a pick them 496 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: than it does for three. And I know the Titans 497 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: have beaten like a murderous role up opponents to beat 498 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: the Bills, the Chiefs, the Coast in the Rams, but 499 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: I think that could come back to Burton here. And 500 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: when you look at the Saints, the big thing about 501 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: my model is that it inherently involves strength of schedule. 502 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: So the Saints have beaten the Buccaneers and the Packers 503 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: this year, so they have some big wins on their own. 504 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: And obviously the Saints have struggled with some and fear 505 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: of competition, but they plan, they proved they can step 506 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: up against big competition. And I think one of the 507 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: biggest advantages they have here is the Saint really stopped 508 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: to run, and you can't run against this team, which 509 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: is third in both rushing its EP eight and success 510 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: rate and second ESPN's run stop win rate. And it 511 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: didn't hurt them last week with the Titans not having 512 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry because Matthew Stafford basically gifted them fourteen points. 513 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: The Titans only have one hundred and ninety four yards 514 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: of offense on three point five yards per play, So 515 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: if Matthew Stafford doesn't throw a pick six and then 516 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: a pick inside that left the Titans inside the two. 517 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: This is a totally different game. So I think the 518 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: Saints defense will be able to slow the Titans down. 519 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: And I think you have a game here, Like, what's 520 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: your thoughts? 521 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with basically everything you said. I don't 522 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: have a model like yours that spits out the numbers, 523 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 3: but before each week of games, I kind of just 524 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: do my own lines of Okay, here's where I put it. 525 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: I had Titans minus one, so I agree. I think 526 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 3: I think this should be close to pick them. I 527 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 3: definitely am on the Saints here, and I'm. 528 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: Definitely taking it out the three. I don't want to 529 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: lose the hook there. 530 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: Again, we've seen so many of these close games all 531 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 3: season long. We've seen so many road teams be great 532 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 3: this season. Road underdogs this season fifty one, thirty and 533 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: a one against the spread, covering sixty three percent of 534 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: the time, road underdogs under a touchdown thirty five and 535 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 3: twenty three straight up. That's a sixty three percent ROI 536 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 3: this season. And there are a bunch of interesting spots 537 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 3: for road dogs. We already had Seattle earlier as a 538 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: possibility as well, So yeah, I like them. Here Sean 539 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 3: Payton coming off a loss sixty percent against the spread 540 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 3: as an underdog coming off a loss that moves to 541 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: eleven and six, and he's eight and nine straight up 542 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: even though he's an underdog in those games. Mike vrabel 543 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 3: in toss ups only forty percent against the spread when 544 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: it's three or lower. So a lot of trends here 545 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: that like the Saints. This just it feels too easy 546 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: to be Tennessee. It's like, oh, yeah, Tennessee is good. Now, 547 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: they beat everyone, so just take Tennessee to keep going. 548 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: What goes up must come down, And I just feel 549 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: like this is kind of a chance to even these 550 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: teams out by DVA. The Saints are the better team, 551 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: their offenses are pretty similar, but the Saints defense, as 552 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 3: good as Tennessee is playing. The Saints defense has been 553 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 3: great all season, so I like the Saints O line 554 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 3: to be able to hold up against the D line 555 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 3: Titans run defense this week. So I'm kind of keeping 556 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 3: in mind on Taysom Hill. I'd like to see maybe 557 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: a little more Taysum this week. I think he could 558 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: do some damage there. Like you said, the run d 559 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 3: for the Saints is great, so I think that that 560 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: can really shut down what's left of the rushing attack 561 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: and let them really focus on the pass. So yeah, 562 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: I like the Saints here. I'm taking all three of 563 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: the underdogs in our marquee games this week. 564 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: And I think one of the tricks you actually had 565 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: in your article. Road dogs are fifty one, thirty and 566 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: one against the spread this year. That's sixty three percent. 567 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: So if you can get some good road dogs, I mean, 568 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: we already gave you two right now with Seahawks and 569 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: the States. I think I think those are two that 570 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: we agree on, so we can move on to like 571 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: our best bets now. 572 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I think in my article, I think I'm 573 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 3: on eight of nine road dogs this week against the spread. So, boy, 574 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 3: I texted you a few days ago, help, I'm taking 575 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 3: too many road teams. I think I'm on like twelve 576 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 3: or fourteen road teams overall this week. 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Let's 613 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 4: get back to the show. 614 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: All right, best best of the week. 615 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: We're just gonna get in and out on these Rahiem 616 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: and I already have articles up, we've got videos up. 617 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: Didn't get more details there, but just want to give 618 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 3: you the radio version to hear Rahim. What is your 619 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: first best bet of week ten? 620 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: My first bet bet, but we're gonna go with the 621 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys Falcons over fifty four. I gave this out the 622 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: other day at fifty two. I still like it. I 623 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: think this is a big smash spot for the Cowboys offense. 624 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 1: When you look at this Cowboys offense, they're still scoring 625 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: thirty points per game and they're going against a Falcons 626 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: team it's twenty seven points per game, twenty fifth and 627 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: EPA for Play thirty second success rate and they've just 628 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: played the twenty ninth rank schedule reposed of offenses. We 629 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: heard it do today about the Cowboys. Randy Gregory is 630 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: out on defensive end, so they may not be able 631 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: to rush the passer as much. This game is gonna 632 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: go over with East, So I really liked over. 633 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that a lot of points coming to 634 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: that one. I'm gonna go with Colts minus ten against 635 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: the Jaguars. I've talked about this one already. I think 636 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 3: on the hot read, I just think it was a 637 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: great spot for the Colts. This is in a week 638 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: in a row, They're facing an opponent coming off a 639 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: huge upset win as a double digit underdog, and I 640 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: think that's buying them some value on the line here. 641 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: I think this line should have been closer to two touchdowns. 642 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: I thought it might move. 643 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: It might still, so I'm gonna grab the ten while 644 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: it's there. The jaguars one strength all season has been 645 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: their run game that's tanked lately. James Robinson has hurt, 646 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: and the Colts rundy is awesome. So this the Colts 647 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: are just built to take care of bad teams with 648 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: their run game and their defense, and they did it 649 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: last week against the Jets. I think they do it 650 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: again here. All right, Raim, what is your other best 651 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: bet for Week ten? 652 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: You go to Philadelphia Eagles. I actually tease this on 653 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: the hot read. You look at the Philadelphia Eagles is 654 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: another road dog, but they're playing against a Broncos team 655 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: which the whole offensive line is being them right. Guark 656 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: bram glasnow is out for the season with the ankle injury. 657 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: Right tackle Bobby Macy's has fifted to miss this week, 658 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: and then left tackle Garrett Boles he he already missed 659 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: some time. He's going to miss some time. So there'll 660 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: be Ryan on the youth movement. They're playing defense, which 661 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: is second in ESPN's pass worst win rate. Bridge was 662 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: not gonna have a ton of time to throw, But 663 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: then you look on the other side of the ball. 664 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: Eagles have been running the ball. They have the seven 665 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: highest run pass ratio this season. They're first in Russian 666 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 1: success rate, and the big thing is that Jalen Hurts 667 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: has really been playing well in play action. He's completely 668 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: eighty three percent of his passes in play action, and 669 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: just with his dual threat ability to run and pass, 670 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: it's just a dangerous Eagles offense. The Broncos defense is 671 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: twenty third and rushing success rate, so the Eagles have 672 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: capitalized on it. I'm selling high on the Broncos and 673 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: taking the Eagles. 674 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: That was so funny because I was trying to figure 675 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: out what's my other best bet here, because actually my 676 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: best bets are the Raiders in the Seahawks, so we 677 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 3: already cover with them, though those are my upset specials 678 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 3: this week, I was gonna do the Eagles here. That 679 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 3: was gonna be my other pick. I do like them here, 680 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: so I agree with you there. Instead, I will just 681 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: give us a shout to our mid season The Future 682 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 3: Is Pod that we did a few days ago. Check 683 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 3: that out from Tuesday if you haven't yet. My favorite 684 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: out of that one, Tom Brady plus three thousand to 685 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: an Offensive Player. 686 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: Of the Year. It's Tom Brady. 687 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: He's leading the league in completion attempts and passing yards 688 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: and touchdowns per game. And he's on pace for over 689 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 3: five thousand yards over fifty touchdowns. It's not gonna slow 690 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: down with the way that their schedule looks and all 691 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: their weapons. So I love him there Still I'm for MVP. 692 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 3: Be sure to check out that mid season future is 693 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 3: pot if you haven't yet, and you hear more. 694 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: About lots of those futures. Bets for him. 695 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 3: Let's do our week eleven look ahead and get out 696 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: of here hot. 697 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 4: Rap seventeen on ice rights ice cream, Oh sir, nineteen 698 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 4: sound nineteen. 699 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 3: So we look ahead to next week's games, get some 700 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: early winners on the board. Before the line moved, who 701 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: do you like for next Sunday? 702 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: I just realized that we have a disagreement. Ah yeah, 703 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: Like I see like the Jaguars next week. And a 704 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: big part of it is, obviously the numbers all always 705 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: say that the forty nine are probably in a good spot. 706 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of sharp money in the 707 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: flidough on the forty nine ers on Monday against the Rams. 708 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: But Kyle Shanahan is a favorite, Like, I just don't. 709 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: Know how you back ugly. 710 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: He's No. Twenty two and one, that's twenty nine percent 711 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: against the spread as a favorite. I think the Jiangs 712 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: are a love next week with the five and a 713 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: half points, I probably wouldn't take it now. I think 714 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: you maybe you might want to take it now considering 715 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: that they do play the Rams Monday night they get 716 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: blown out that line of go down. But I really 717 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: like that one. I think you're on the other end, 718 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: so I'd love to hear your case. 719 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was on the other end. 720 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: You know, we're only doing one pick each, so I 721 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 3: have another pick that I'll make only because I tucked 722 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: myself out of the Niners for some of the reasons 723 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 3: you said. It does seem like San fran is good. 724 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 3: They should beat the Jaguars, but I just don't trust 725 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: them too. It's an early kickoff for a West Coast team, 726 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: which is never a great look either. There's a lot 727 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: of reasons, you know, coming off a short week, it's 728 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: a very letdown you sort of spot for the Niners. 729 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: I liked it because I actually think. 730 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: The Niners maybe can hang with the Rams on Monday Night, 731 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 3: and that the line maybe moves and you might lose, 732 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 3: It might get to a touchdown. So that was my 733 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 3: big reason, just looking for value on the line. So 734 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 3: I think you might get some closing line value, but 735 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 3: I'm not sure it's going to work out for you anyways, 736 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 3: because of all the reasons you' said. So I understand 737 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 3: going with the Jaguars, an underdog as well, another team 738 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: that you and I have picked against recently and often. 739 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 3: I'm taking the Pittsburgh Steelers next week Sunday night in 740 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: Los Angeles to face the Chargers. Pittsburgh is plus three 741 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 3: and a half right now. It's a game that iys 742 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: think is going to be close, closer to a coin 743 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: flip than it is a plus three and a half, 744 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 3: So I want it before the hook. Pittsburgh faces the 745 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 3: Lions this week. That might be ugly either way. It 746 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 3: probably will be ugly, but it could be an easy 747 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh win. The Chargers play the Vikings. I know you 748 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,959 Speaker 3: like the Vikings. There's a chance that the Chargers lose 749 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: that one. I think this line easily could go to 750 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 3: three or under three. Mike Tomlin has an underdog great 751 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 3: in that spot, Najie Harris running the ball against this 752 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 3: rough defense. Hime in Los Angeles, it's going to be 753 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 3: a home game for Pittsburgh like that's that stadium is 754 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 3: going to be Steelers fans Sunday night. I just think 755 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a great spot for Tomlin and you 756 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 3: know raw Raw, Tomlin is underdog. 757 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,479 Speaker 2: So I like Pittsburgh plus three. 758 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: And a half. 759 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: What do you think about that one? 760 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? I like that one. I think Pittsburgh is an underdogs. 761 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: It's just perfect and yeah, like I can't argue with 762 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: that at all. Like I really like that. 763 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 2: Right. 764 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: That is going to wrap it up for our week 765 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: ten of Strong Side Fridays. 766 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: Make sure you get the app. 767 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 3: If you haven't, please rate, subscribe, and review the podcast. 768 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: Check out those podcasts from this week. You had our 769 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: Tuesday mid season of Futures podcast, you had Stuck in 770 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 3: a Raybaund on the six Pack. Raheem and I are 771 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: back first thing Monday to wrap up the action from 772 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 3: this weekend. Go We're gonna check out Bockets on the 773 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 3: Action Network podcast network, where you can hear Raheem and 774 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 3: myself and Matt Moore and others talk about basketball all 775 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 3: week long. For Raheem Palmer, I am Brandon Anderson. This 776 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 3: has been the Action Network podcast. 777 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: Enjoy your weekend