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Speaker 1: All right. Coming up a little later on this hour,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you some updates both of the terrible shooting

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Speaker 1: Walmart shooting. We're an overnight manager shot his co workers

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Speaker 1: John and Ken Show this hour. We begin with the

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Speaker 1: Idaho murders. Right, Alex Stone is with us because they're

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Speaker 1: still very little concrete information is to who killed the

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Speaker 1: four University of Idaho students, and I guess Alex is

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Speaker 1: coming on to tell us he's got nothing. Yeah, pretty much, right,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there you go back to you. We're two

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Speaker 1: weeks and one day into this and still police are

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Speaker 1: do now, they're dispelling a lot of the rumors like

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Speaker 1: them being bound and gagged, saying that's not true. In

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Speaker 1: the world of what's going on and online in the

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Speaker 1: real world crime podcasts, you know, all the different theories

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Speaker 1: that way the way misinformation runs around, So they're doing that,

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Speaker 1: but they don't have a lot of other details. And

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Speaker 1: today classes got going again at the University of Idaho,

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Speaker 1: and it's very quiet. Many students refusing to go back,

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Speaker 1: saying they're afraid, knowing that there is a killer of

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Speaker 1: us they're dealing now with a surge of nine one

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Speaker 1: and again we understand you want answers. We want answers too,

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Speaker 1: Alex Stone has been following the murder of the four

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Speaker 1: reporter Rob Lowe for Fox thirty one in Denver, and

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Speaker 1: what do you know, it involves a confrontation on an

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Speaker 1: airplane between Anderson all Rich, his mother, and some other people.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear the story. What makes me? What makes me?

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Speaker 1: A Maria Martinez had had enough when she started recording

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Speaker 1: Anderson Aldridge and his mother the damn fight. You dump

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Speaker 1: that up, you shut up. So it's just crazy to

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Speaker 1: think that this man had so much hate and he

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Speaker 1: threatened me and he clearly said he's gonna be up,

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Speaker 1: even with a face mask. Maria Martinez and her daughter

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Speaker 1: Kayla immediately recognized Aldridge as the man now charged with

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Speaker 1: killing five and injuring seventeen at Club que Parley because

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Speaker 1: they remember what they told each other after the July

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Speaker 1: thirty first flight home to Denver. Even my friend was like,

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Speaker 1: we won't be surprised, like if he's a mass shooter.

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Speaker 1: And it was like a scary to think that I

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Speaker 1: was having a hard time getting my luggage down and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I just hear this woman say,

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Speaker 1: hurry the and that's when I turn around and said,

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Speaker 1: excuse me. Tanya de Leo is the family friend who

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Speaker 1: says it was Aldridge's mom, Laura Vopal, who started with

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Speaker 1: the racist language and Anderson Aldridge who continued it. When

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Speaker 1: an African American passenger tried to de escalate tensions, he

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Speaker 1: tried to kind of stop the fight and turn around

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Speaker 1: and told her like, hey, bro, like there's no need

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Speaker 1: for that. And he also told him to show the

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Speaker 1: seems very hate hateful, like just evil. Like just being

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Speaker 1: in the presence of him, like I could just feel

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Speaker 1: like the hate. He just seems like he just has

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Speaker 1: hate deep down in his heart. He's got hate. I'm

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Speaker 1: and just by seeing his mom's behavior too, I can

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Speaker 1: see where he gets it from. She's the one that

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Speaker 1: started with the racial slurt and you're saying she was

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Speaker 1: obnoxious the whole She was obnoxious the whole fight. She

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Speaker 1: literally made the crew remove a young lady with her

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Speaker 1: baby that we're sitting behind her because she was complaining

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Speaker 1: about the baby. We had a conflict with a mass

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Speaker 1: shooter is like very scary and traumatic. Yeah, it's surreal.

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Speaker 1: As you're getting off the plane, what do you hear

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Speaker 1: Anderson say, I wish I can shoot all of you

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Speaker 1: right now. Of course, less than four months later, investigators

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Speaker 1: Aldridge did go on a shooting spree. The woman would

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Speaker 1: just spoke with tell us. They were disappointed that the

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Speaker 1: flight crew for Frontier Airlines, who they insisted all of

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Speaker 1: this commotion, didn't confront Aldridge or Aldridge's mother and have

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Speaker 1: security waiting when the plane landed. I wish I could

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Speaker 1: shoot all of you right now. It's so lucky it

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Speaker 1: was an airline where he couldn't take a gun on

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Speaker 1: board or well, yeah, but it's what I'm saying. He's

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Speaker 1: another one where this was building up inside for a

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Speaker 1: long time. He was going to blow eventually. He was

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Speaker 1: constantly was the feeling every time he was upset, he

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Speaker 1: wanted to shoot everybody, And finally something pushed him over

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Speaker 1: the edge and went into the game club. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I don't believe he's non binary, Okay, because somebody

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Speaker 1: who fantasizes about shooting people to death and is screaming

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Speaker 1: all kinds of racial epithets is not a guy who

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Speaker 1: suddenly wakes up one morning and says, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think I'm non binary. That's that's not that guy. And

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Speaker 1: he's he's using that in a way. He's mocking. He's

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Speaker 1: mocking our whole culture now and it's obsession with all

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Speaker 1: these sexual categories. He's making fun of it. He's trying

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Speaker 1: to claim protected status, thinking that'll that'll protect him against

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Speaker 1: some of the charges. Do you see that she called

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Speaker 1: him a fat something or other. Well you look at

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Speaker 1: him and the mom and yeah, these are two pieces

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Speaker 1: of fat trash, is what they are. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: really you could just tell, yeah, they're garbage. This is

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Speaker 1: just this is July. This is just months before the

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Speaker 1: then this is this is another day. This one just

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Speaker 1: happens to be on video. But they're they're they're they're

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Speaker 1: fighting and yelling at each other there all day wherever

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Speaker 1: they're going. They're going to the store, they're going to

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Speaker 1: the bar, they're going friend's house. Everybody's fighting and yelling

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Speaker 1: and carry it on. All right, we got more coming up,

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Speaker 1: John and Ken KF I am six forty live everywhere

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app well thousands thousands. According to the Daily Mail,

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Speaker 1: a tabloid out of the United Kingdom of California, sex

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Speaker 1: offenders appere to have served very little jail or prison time.

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Speaker 1: That was their review of the records, checking through Megan's

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Speaker 1: law websites and such. We'll talk about it with the

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Speaker 1: Deputy DA John A. Tommy of La County. Coming up

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Speaker 1: after the news five o'clock. This is ten years of

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Speaker 1: sex offenders, ten years child sex offenders being released quickly

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Speaker 1: in California. There's nothing this state won't put up with.

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Speaker 1: Speak of sex offenders. Steve Gregor will come back on

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Speaker 1: the show with a further updated. What happened out in

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Speaker 1: Riverside on Friday, Speaking of underage sex offenders, a man

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Speaker 1: from Virginia came to hopefully meet up with a teenage

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Speaker 1: girl he had been communicating with online, allegedly him not

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Speaker 1: representing his true age. He's twenty eight anyway, had ended

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Speaker 1: in a tragedy with three people dead in the home.

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Speaker 1: They were family members of the girl, and eventually this

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Speaker 1: cop was shot dead by police some time later as

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Speaker 1: he made his way away from the scene in Riverside

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Speaker 1: with the teen girl. All of this coming up in

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Speaker 1: the five o'clock hour. Well, mentally ill people are everywhere

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Speaker 1: and over the weekend, it's a busy shopping weekend for

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Speaker 1: people and also traveling because it was the Thanksgiving holiday

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Speaker 1: up in the area of Gorman Up near a New

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Speaker 1: Hall on the five freeway, there was a four to

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Speaker 1: five vehicle crash. This was northbound on the five. If

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Speaker 1: you know the area, this was just south of good

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Speaker 1: Old Smokey Bear Road. And Um. The reason for this

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Speaker 1: multi car crash there was a naked woman walking on

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Speaker 1: the freeway, probably on the shoulder, carrying a stuffed animal.

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Speaker 1: Um that would be considered the distraction. Is this an

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Speaker 1: attractive woman? I don't have because I mean a five

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Speaker 1: car crash. It's well, people were not really Oh. It

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Speaker 1: said she was in the number three lane where she

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Speaker 1: began dancing. And this is ten thirty eleven o'clock in

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Speaker 1: the morning. Uh, somebody must have taken video. Let's see here.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to bring up the story, but I don't

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Speaker 1: see any video yet. No. Oh, somebody whipped out their

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Speaker 1: phone to show yea naked woman. Yeah, the number three lane.

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Speaker 1: That's a dangerous place. I could think she wasn't run over. Um,

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Speaker 1: but she did cause a crash. They arrived at the

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Speaker 1: scene to taint her usta after eleven am. She will

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Speaker 1: of course be held fifty one fifty. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: a person with a mental challenge to be involuntarily detained

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Speaker 1: for three days for a seventy two hours psychiatric hospitalization. Right,

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Speaker 1: so when this happened Saturday, Oh, well then she'll be

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Speaker 1: out tomorrow. Tomorrow, Yeah, she'll be back on the freeway.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean it did cause a crash, which

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Speaker 1: is terrible. But why is she carrying a stuffed animal?

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Speaker 1: I couldn't figure that out either. Where did she come

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Speaker 1: from her comfort? She she doesn't have any clothes, and

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Speaker 1: it's cold. They it's called up in the grape vine.

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Speaker 1: It is. This is Saturday morning, but it probably was

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Speaker 1: a bit chilly, like it was all weekend, probably forty

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Speaker 1: degrees there. They she's holding on for warmth. Yeah, let

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Speaker 1: me see if I can. Okay, here comes a story,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think there's a video. People take video

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Speaker 1: of everything. A naked woman holding a stuff, well, they

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Speaker 1: would blur it out, so you probably can't see what

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Speaker 1: she looks like. I know, I just want to just

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Speaker 1: want to yeah right now now they're just showing a

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Speaker 1: map of where this happened, and I think it's just

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Speaker 1: a quick story from yeah, thirty second story from Channel eleven.

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Speaker 1: There is so much public mental illness. Now. I was

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Speaker 1: this morning at the grocery store. I get out of

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Speaker 1: the car and I hear somebody, yes, ram it angrily,

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Speaker 1: and I turn around and it's a woman and she's

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Speaker 1: got a Polish accent, Eastern European accent. It's like, wait

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Speaker 1: a second, I recognize that mom. And she she is

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Speaker 1: yelling and yelling. She's standing at the garbage can and

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Speaker 1: she's shouting and shaking her fist and there's nobody there

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Speaker 1: but she homeless looking or yeah yeah. And then and

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Speaker 1: then I went inside the store and there's a security

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Speaker 1: guard and he's standing just inside the store and he

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Speaker 1: can hear this. He's doing nothing. And I look at

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Speaker 1: him and I go, you hear that, Oh, it's free speech.

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Speaker 1: And she goes and he says, oh, well, she comes

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Speaker 1: every day. She's she's not gonna hurt anybody. Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: you don't want to walk past this, Oh she was,

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Speaker 1: she was. It's not good for business, right, so uh.

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Speaker 1: And then I came out. I bought a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: I came out and she's now standing on the other

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Speaker 1: side of the grocery store, in front of it, at

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Speaker 1: another garbage can, and she's shouting there at her imaginary friend,

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Speaker 1: I mean Jess screaming, Hey, speaking of mentally ill. Guess

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Speaker 1: what story is one month old? And I looked for

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Speaker 1: an update on it. Remember the woman with the axe

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Speaker 1: who started bashing in the house in Pasadena? Oh yeah, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: October twenty fourth. Her name is Beverly Anne Baker, is

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Speaker 1: sixty five year old woman. They've charged her with one

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Speaker 1: fellow and he count of vandalism, but now apparently they

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Speaker 1: have to determine her mental competency. If you didn't this,

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Speaker 1: this was the fan. What's the point? Is the most

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Speaker 1: incredible story of the year that this woman just walks

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Speaker 1: up to this family's home and just begins chopping away

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Speaker 1: at the house with a pickaxe. And she had a

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Speaker 1: huge axe. And there was a little baby asleep underneath

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Speaker 1: the window, but the grandmother moved the baby just in

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Speaker 1: time before the glass. Yet baby easily could have died

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Speaker 1: with all the glass falling on him. The only quote

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Speaker 1: we have is the following from the woman questions questions

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Speaker 1: anyone I'll be back, get out great, that's what she yelled. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they took video of her. Wow, have you ever seen

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Speaker 1: there's so many deranged people wandering around? Now, is it

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Speaker 1: the dry Yeah, I'm saying it's got to be the drugs.

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Speaker 1: The drugs are more prevalent, and they're really more powerful

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Speaker 1: than they've ever been. I don't ever remember seeing so

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Speaker 1: many people in my wife, you know. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: live in cities. You'll see homeless derelicts, right, and you'll

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Speaker 1: see people passed out. But this kind of angry insanity,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen this, and it's almost every day, all right.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, The Daily Mail did a special

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Speaker 1: They're Own exclusive. Thousands of convicted pedophiles in California are

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Speaker 1: being released from prison in less than a year for

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Speaker 1: horrific acts including rape, sodoming, and sex abuse of kids.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it with Deputy DA John

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Speaker 1: Hatami the only County DA's office. John and Ken kf

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Speaker 1: I Am six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 1: and Debra Mark live in the twenty four hour Cafine

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Speaker 1: newsroom