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Speaker 1: had businessman. So never think that the Cripts come from

426
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: those factions or had their ideologies. Because most of those

427
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: dudes when we got the prison later on with b GFS, oh,

428
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: all of them. And then when the Bloods came to

429
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: prison when we turned twenty and months, since they were

430
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: fighting cripts only they turned in got in. That's why

431
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: that's where you get. You be in with Peabody, Jim

432
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: Brewer and they go to New York. I'm right there

433
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: on the tier. Please don't work with me this year.

434
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: So anyway, come and this is where another partner of

435
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: the Red Sea happened. That's for us gang activity. When

436
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: you really about it, see we need now you can

437
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: have nine sugar Beard one to three fold sugar Bear big.

438
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody in uh m l A nuts because it

439
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: ain't nobody following us. We only got us Crypts, Bloods

440
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: and the Mexican Mafields, which was the Sutherland Ramios. Now

441
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: those were the kids that were sowing day ots. But

442
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: in seventy five, what happens if you count the numbers,

443
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: they turned eighteen and can go to the prison. So

444
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: seventy five, that's when you get the rhythm. I'm for

445
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: the name of off you. It's there, Raymond Washington, and

446
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: they don't about Sydney Heffner dead. I you had bobbing them.

447
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: They actually were the first crops there where they were

448
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: threatening in where they were almost for the killing, for

449
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: coming in for killing the black and we're talking about

450
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: the black panther Jonathan Jackson, George Jackston. These men were

451
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: actually there as the solid Dad brothers. They witnessed that.

452
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: So after I followed, we followed them. And that's where party.

453
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: That means all the ones that were setting the tradition

454
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: on the West Side to Hoover, the hundreds, the sixties

455
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: dogs paid back watergates, UH one elevens, so everybody just

456
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: start forming. No that left for boy to wear the

457
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: leadership one cuts. Don't forget all my friends did thirty years.

458
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: If they just started in seventy one, that mean they

459
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: got twenty six years where they're gone. That's when the

460
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: new ones come in and the sets bro. Now you've

461
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: got people trying to tell other ones what to do,

462
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: and that's when the separation grew. Everybody wants to be

463
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: pink ship turretiving because that's what you're awn and that's

464
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: when the division here in jail. Now look at it,

465
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: the originals and our protocol has disappeared because now I

466
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: go from that to where when crips got killed, it

467
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: was internal where it was really personal. There wasn't no

468
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: thing about this gang is this business? Let me interject

469
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: this who you're talking about? Eighty eight one started the

470
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: error when gang violence was at the peak. The government

471
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: started with Operation wedn Seed. When you talk about the

472
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: O G is going to prison for thirty years, they

473
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: had s s U squad in any one to eighty three.

474
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: Every O G to get out of prison and we

475
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: get called and they felt when they wouldn't arrest them,

476
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: they was killing them and they had killed him and

477
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: they had to disband and nothing new said that were

478
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: the ones that would do jacket, but they were killing them.

479
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: They had to go and a lot of men was

480
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: from our community where they had to disband it where

481
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: they were trailing them, killing them and letting them do

482
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: the robbery and could have been stopped them. They would

483
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: kill them like Bob kind of like Bob motor mouths

484
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: in their stag got killed we can name a lot

485
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: of them. So that's also that's Operation We didn't Seed.

486
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: So when you talk about people and start infiltrating before

487
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: Operation we Didn't see it was corn Tell program. Corn

488
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: Tell got rid of the Black Panthers, the the midline

489
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: of Roan Karin getting us and Black dissing the organizations.

490
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: So they changed corn Tell Probe to Operation Weed and Seed.

491
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: So now they moved in new niggas to tell you

492
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: something that were informants. You know what I'm saying, So

493
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: hold on. So they just started the whole infiltration thing.

494
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: That's just came in with them with the US organizations.

495
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: But this is what go ahead, show qu quick. But

496
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 1: this is where we go in this Smith, I'll tell

497
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: you we're coming with facts. Most people say this's a

498
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: spinoff and that the crypts were infiltrated by them, but

499
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: they didn't even know about us. In seventy one. We

500
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: were dormant, so people would inferred that the Black Panthers

501
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: the police came, They didn't. We were juvenile while they

502
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: were passing out lunch. Since we're taking everything we can get,

503
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: so imagine that that's why you have to separate this.

504
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: They were plo brack and correct, we anti black. So

505
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: imagine when we go to jail and they fighting several

506
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: rights and we're coming in there with a blue rag

507
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: talking about were killing blacks. You know what they said,

508
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: tuck it? Can you just saying something that was deep

509
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: anti black? We didn't we we were anti anybody because

510
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: anybody could get it. But we're gonna address something where

511
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: when they talk about black on black crime, if we're

512
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: the closest, you only killed they got. Every race has

513
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: tried to kill me and this man because of the

514
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: club skin, including you, But we only kill ourselves because

515
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: of the areas that are near to us at the closest.

516
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: When the man reject this also, we need once once

517
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't that we started being anti black, not because no, no, no, no,

518
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about even when you don't care who it was.

519
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: Even even with the balluton murder, everybody got the ballute

520
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: murder came from a stomp and from a fight. They

521
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: didn't shoot them, you didn't. It came from fighting. And

522
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: so when they comes when it came from fighting, that's

523
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: when when when when the truck things started, but White

524
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: America did it, started glorifying it, and when they start

525
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: glorifying to put it onto me, it's easier for me

526
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: to kill. You didn't go kill somebody in Hollywood. You

527
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: do what I'm saying. The same thing happened, and when

528
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: it starts. You look in the nineties and the two thousand's,

529
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: they start glorifying carjacking and every guy high speech chase.

530
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: But before it was on the news, you never heard

531
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: about it, but everybody wanted that fifteen minutes of fan

532
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: so gang members we started the same ship. Well, okay,

533
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: if I kill somebody, gonna be all right, witness news

534
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: and throwing up my set exactly. It's to me, that's

535
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: operation we'd and see you think what I'm saying. So

536
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: it's not that you hate me when White America teach

537
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: you to hate me. When you knew better, you do better.

538
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: I mean because that ship happens today. I mean you

539
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: see the media glorifying some ship like yeah, so we

540
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: this is what we do as credible messengers do we

541
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: blame the way people. I don't even look at it

542
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 1: there now. I meant right here where we're the closest

543
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: to him, I'm worried about whoever got it backpack on

544
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: him and wearing a hoodie over that goddamn he at

545
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: a hundred and ten degrees on a goddamn summer day

546
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: to make that go away. You're out there. Rather, I'm

547
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: gonna watch that nigger because I childn't have to be

548
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: able to where I got to be worried about sitting

549
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: next to my brother. But right now you can't do that,

550
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: especially with a mask. Every niggad on one tune ball

551
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: felling off that stimulus check. But they don't want to

552
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: got a card with card MACGONI got their pistol in

553
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: the glove compartment. It's a new tendance on the grid,

554
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: so they go get your money. Let me say that

555
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: you was just back to James about should we hold

556
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: white people accountable? Should be hold right from everything? Now,

557
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: If me and you grew up and I feed you

558
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: skippy dog food until you was twenty one years old

559
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: and to you with steak, and then you go to

560
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: a restaurant and buy a state, shouldn't you hold me

561
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: accountable for not for feeding your dog food for twenty years?

562
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: So I can't be responsible for something I don't know.

563
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: Listening to you all, it's like we created a system

564
00:33:53,640 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: within ourselves to program Okay, We programmed ourselves to to

565
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: be efficient, to be that dude, to be that neighborhood.

566
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: Because when the hoods started, when the bloods and the

567
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: and the e Cryption was doing it, everybody had to shine.

568
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: Every side had to shine. But it wasn't well it

569
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't know. Nobody ever talked about what they did. No

570
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: I even know what I'm saying. Everybody knew about everybody.

571
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: You got to remember it only what's about thirty five

572
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: West Side. We didn't have nobody, no, not in the

573
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one. It ain't when you got it. But

574
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: still you gotta look at this. I don't care how

575
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: you shine if you're not. Now about when I ain't

576
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: got no money and I'm hustling and I gotta steal.

577
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: It's easy for me to break in your house. But

578
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: I never went to Beverly Hills. Why sch it I

579
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: steal an old TV when I can go and serious

580
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: and get a new one. And ain't nobody told me

581
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: that right here? So we would get it right to

582
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: where people think one over talking to other this that

583
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: are then it's not to them because they're not even tripping.

584
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: What happens is this you're hearing something from one bloody

585
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 1: that's saying something that eighteen were registered to him. We're

586
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: only fourteen and thirteen. We can't process that. So when

587
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what that experience and the error was,

588
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: we weren't thinking about none of that. So when I

589
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: say that, it's not a conflict, because a lot of

590
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: times people see what one say it's not right or

591
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: oh that's don't know, it makes perfect sense when you

592
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: dearly look at the other side. So if he's speaking

593
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: from an eighteen, he's an adult. I'm only thirteen coming

594
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: as an adolescent. So they called it the age of

595
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: what innocence. So we don't see nothing where we look

596
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: from bad to evil. We only thirteen. So when he's

597
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: saying in his perspective, that is correct. But the games

598
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: in l A on the West Side, nobody ever heard

599
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: said nothing about nothing about not level rights. We were

600
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: being able to do what we want. What we were

601
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: thribbing ice cream trucks or armored trucks at fourteen, with

602
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: freedom and impunity to do what y'all talk about the

603
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: police get away with We had era from seventy one

604
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: to seventy five that no matter what we do, we

605
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: only could get sentenced to a team and be kept

606
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: tell you with a juvenile and do you think that

607
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: that mentality made the youth, you know, more hyper or

608
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: because there wasn't to step on? You know, what were

609
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: you gonna worry about? When whatever now even go ahead?

610
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: And what I'm trying. And then because of the area,

611
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: do you think that the lawmakers and whatever did they

612
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: figured that because it was the west side or this

613
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: is how they figured out. They covered and made it

614
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: for the nation. But it started in l A to

615
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: where they knew Compton what east side west side? That

616
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: means you go down, don't forget you and have all

617
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: these freeways that one tid divided everything in correct, what

618
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: you're talking about for us when I went to prison,

619
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: all my homies was in prison, so I didn't miss

620
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: nothing in complete when he did when he went to prison.

621
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: When when they got the wine and ship it was

622
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: a thousand crips and then that wasn't Chris wanted to

623
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: be crips. You did what I'm saying, so we didn't

624
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: miss nothing. I remember when I grew up like Ozzie

625
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: and Harriet, I had been in my own house. My

626
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: father was in the Navy. My mother was a college graduate.

627
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: I was just a bad nigger. He understands me. So

628
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: I used to go to Juvenile Holland I wanted to man,

629
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: why y'all lowways? I'm always there, But why y'all there?

630
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Some dudes told me out the projects. Man, it's the

631
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: only place I had ever been where I had my

632
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: own bed. My my brother sus a pee in the

633
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: bid and it's one room, and my mom is a

634
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: wine or my daddy's in jail. So their sanctuary was

635
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: Juvenile Hall. You did what I'm saying, being in juvenile

636
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: Heart was better than being in the projects. And that's

637
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: a shame. Can I go back to something? I want

638
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: to go back to? Cointell Pro were impact on that,

639
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: I know, but for the audience, what impact did that

640
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: have on the community? Co and Tell pro on on

641
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: what happened on the community. It was a disenfranchisement of

642
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: neighborhood beliefs. So what they did they did what right? Now?

643
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: People talk about the breakfast breakfast program and they put

644
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: it into the schools, but nobody identifies that the Black

645
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: Panthers started that free breakfast program. So co and Tell

646
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: Pro with Angela Davis and Jane Finder single handedly told

647
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: up the Black Panther Party. You feel what I'm saying

648
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: because under the popular beliefs Angela Davis, who was never

649
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: a Black panther, she was in the Communist Party, you

650
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: think what I'm saying, So she didn't even have the

651
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: concept for what the black anths did you feel? So

652
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: they used co and tell pro to break this off

653
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: and bring so by nineteen seventy they went from Black

654
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: Power to issue your thing, do what you wanna do.

655
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: So we left unity in the community to having money

656
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six to boss in ten you a year,

657
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: everybody was having catalogs of money and everybody was had

658
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: the Black power struggling economically. By nineteen eighty they had

659
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: strict Compton of all economics and we became crickheads. And

660
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, you talking about nine eighty

661
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: one year to crack first into the community, they were

662
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: free base and eat the basin. Because at that time

663
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: my buddy name was Michael Gildaine, origin Vanair's boy. He

664
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: married a woman had a girlfriend that was two d

665
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: rees uh daughter Rhonda Reese High Rhonda rest in peace,

666
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: two d But this other status of key borns because

667
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: at that time the keys was fifty five or key.

668
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: And also let's remember this and this I go to

669
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: show you how they make it laws once black start

670
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: having money. When they made PCP, weren't nothing wrong with

671
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: it till the start affecting the whites. Now we're gonna

672
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: go to the cocaine and what happened with that before

673
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: seventy seven? That means seventy five seventy six, Yeah, what

674
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: they call the disco. Ever, wasn't it fashionable to snort?

675
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah's talking about you then? Was fashionable with something? It was?

676
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: It was the rich man. So it wasn't no law exactly.

677
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: They didn't have no asset for No, you didn't even

678
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: go to jail. It was fashionable. Yeah, Studio twenty one

679
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: disco and they made all those movies where they snorty

680
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: cocaine as a recreational drug. And Bill Cosbeek should be

681
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: out because that's what it was all about. And now

682
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: they had come twenty thirty years later. Three Bill Crosby

683
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: while he added, you don't do a black man, and

684
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: like that, we got our own law for him, Ronio.

685
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: And also while we talked about it, and uh, what's

686
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: my brother in Chicago, Jeff Fort, Larry Huber. They don't

687
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: need to be locked up at like an animal. When

688
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: they voice this can be heard. They help some of

689
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: these pockets of poverty or rat infested communities that Obama

690
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: say eloquently and Trump say right off the sleeve. But

691
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: they're still talking about Compton Watt all across black inner

692
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: cities that are being fleeched by America but winning off

693
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: the blood of our backs and our families. So let's

694
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: get back to the attack. And we need to start

695
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: here where we need to start organizing. And I want

696
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: to say, you really need to appreciate this brother, this brother,

697
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: that cameraman, that girls sitting into your audience. I'm proud

698
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: to be here where I made it here and this

699
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: is all it's about. This is where you need to

700
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: really come. And it ain't about no uh politics. We're

701
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: trying to get back in health these you. It's about

702
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: education because listening is learning and history is knowledge. And

703
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: you see when Barbn talking to come to Attenchen, I'm

704
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: listening to my older and we've gett back to where

705
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: we used the internet and other things. When all I

706
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: is the drum bread or Africa, when the olders tell

707
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: the story. And then that's why I listen. I don't distract.

708
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: I listen. And then I learned, and then I figured

709
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: out everybody think we are getting, but really he's a team.

710
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: We're our mindset. We're not even processing. We hadn't add

711
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: sex with our sucks off yet Ship to be talking

712
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: about being a black panther. Never. You're never too old

713
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: to learn to learn, especially me. I'm just sitting here

714
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: and all because of what I'm hearing about. You know,

715
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: the foundation of how you know, the situations got started

716
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: with with us as game banging, and I came later on.

717
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: You know, I was born in seventy one, so I

718
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't start getting in the gang banging until

719
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: like the mid late eighties and ship like that, so

720
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: I could understand that next situation right there. But just

721
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: to educate a lot of dudes, because it's tremendous to

722
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: see what has happened over over the course of fifties

723
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: sixty at that then with Marvin in their era for

724
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: the d and from the business man, the perspective of jail,

725
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: the criminal justice says them to three, it's called evolution.

726
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: And for me to be from Compton the here that

727
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: you know that it was all about, you know, just

728
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: the situations of everybody didn't beef and everybody was doing

729
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: their own thing, and it took a situation that went

730
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: sour and then everybody started forming their own gangs or whatever.

731
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: And the mentality of what gang banging is today is

732
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: far from what you know, the situation of why brothers

733
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: started gang banging the first place, like it was, like

734
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: you said it was, we was just robbing. And now

735
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: in turn of dudes, you know, a k and people

736
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: up and drawing byes and and just I mean, the

737
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: life thing got so mixed up now that we don't

738
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: even fight against crips, or crips don't fight against pirous.

739
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: We're killing each other. We got the five hundred block

740
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: against the one hundred block. Exactly when a little Brook

741
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: told me one time, he said, he told already little

742
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: a little rock boy told me one day it's folksine

743
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: or nothing. I say folk line. It's not called four

744
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: lines Peru street hunt was never those hell of the guys,

745
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But no more, it's falling

746
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: that is not You can't get bigger than the pay,

747
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: you understand, me games, why you think, why do you

748
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: think set started with with fucking like sections and let

749
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: me say, let me say this, and no James gonna say.

750
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what. Boba Lewys and Baba Lewis

751
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: wanted the elegant because he really started the east Side.

752
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: They had never seen putting the floor in their life,

753
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: and they thought Baba Lewis was putting. So when you

754
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: start seeing sets where you if you don't, if you're

755
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: on m LA, it was just identifying where you was at.

756
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: We're all in the mob. It wasn't a set. It's

757
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: all power. It wasn't even it was it was if

758
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: you was in Back in the days, Loutis Park was

759
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: the headquarters rock. I don't give it if he was

760
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: a Ham Street, if he was Lionhood or whoever. When

761
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: I went to prison, I claimed Loutis Parks. It was

762
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: Loutis Park Park route period. So everything was based on

763
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: Lotus Park. So when when one fight took you away

764
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: from that line would get into it with somebody from Leutis.

765
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: Wein't working with him no more. The mob got into

766
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: it with Lotus when working with no more. So everybody

767
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: start breaking off and the sections of their neighborhood when

768
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: they started selling the dope. That's when you claim and

769
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: this piece of your territory, you know what I'm saying.

770
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: So like with with looters and and and the mob,

771
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: if you cross Bradfield, now we got a difference. So okay,

772
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: y'all stayed the funk over there. We stayed to funk

773
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: over here. But it never got to a point where

774
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: we had to kill each other because my fucker's was

775
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: meeting up and fighting. I remember, China Dog, you just

776
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: have mo fuckers come up in the in the headquarters,

777
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: which your niggers from over there. They know what the

778
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: headquarters was in the park up under the the the

779
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: what you call it, let up under there, and motherfucker's

780
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: was getting their fight on pool or a little liquor

781
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 1: and roll something up. Still Chronicles, we'll be right back. Hey,

782
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: James still eight. I need yo to tell me what's

783
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: the word on the streets? He is? What the hell

784
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: is going on? Ship? You know, Marcus did right the

785
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: park here, he right there, so he was always there

786
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: when he was home. But you know, it just it

787
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: just got to a point where, you know, everybody just

788
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: started claiming the own ship, which was cool. Let's talk

789
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: about just for this because that's competing now the West Side,

790
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: it's a whole different story on our the set start.

791
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: So once again that's where you don't get it unfiltered

792
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: and think that's how I went. For everybody on the

793
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: West Side. I'm gonna tell you how we started. Took,

794
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: he left. Everybody would assume when that murder happened, took.

795
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: It's incompetent. From seventy two on he was running Bob

796
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: Simmons boys home. They had one on punder Roads and

797
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: Prime had another one called the Red House and putting

798
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: them shot him over there. The other one I only

799
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: know because they shot his car up and they had

800
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: us me, Rusty and Qes go change the while he

801
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: bought the shotgun, the same one they got into death penalty.

802
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: That's how I got it, and that's what that was

803
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 1: down the line. But in our era, the West Side

804
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: Cripts started from seventy one. That's Bob and all of him.

805
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: That's when they ran into Rain and Hm at the

806
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: Ballston Cross Record hug up at Sportsman Park, which is Jesse,

807
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: the only two places Cripts ever met in l A.

808
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: When it came to east Side and west Side, and

809
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: now all we're talking about is the other side of

810
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: the one tent freeway. Anything over there is east side.

811
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: There are no sets. Everything over here on west side.

812
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: Then you got Compton, so over here. Uh took within Compton.

813
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: He was irrelevant here because he's in Compton dealing with them,

814
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: Little James Compton. Uh the booth heill was open, the

815
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: Grand East one light in one light out. I can

816
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: tell you a story about Budacious Border. I can tell

817
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: your story about Budacious and little Vic who I didn't know.

818
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: Its name of Vincent, and he had clarified the story

819
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: where we was at the Uh, that's when we used

820
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: to all go to the wash festival, right before they

821
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: shut down everything. But back to that, once the west

822
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: Side crips had stopped, which was really on our side

823
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: of the town. They only had clicks, not games. That

824
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: as opposed to because don't forget, we're integrating into where

825
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: they have homes and white folks. Still we got a

826
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: minute you golf, we got a giant slide, we have

827
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: a go cart, you got skating reas none of that

828
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: was available, or if it was, it was being gentrification.

829
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: See how they go now that I process it and

830
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 1: can remember now know what to say, and I didn't

831
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: realize it. So a lot of things that we have

832
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: going on don't take somebody as uh they should have known.

833
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: Now as you get older, that's the number one deterring

834
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: to crime. You start the game slow down, um, and

835
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: you started seeing I had to be in a zip

836
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: damn fool to go and do this goddamn ship. So

837
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: now the first set on the West Side was started

838
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: by month United Underground not Underground United Nix's Melvin Hardy

839
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: started Block, O'Neill Brown, O'Neill Brown started one eleven, Terry

840
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 1: Block started Watergate there for TWOPI started paidback now Godfathers

841
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: because they ended up signing up when we was at

842
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: Dorsey where they were hard on god Fathers and that's

843
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: what was going on over there. So now Hoover comes

844
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: out and they're mostly from uh Fremont, bred Heart and

845
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: Bethune where you got a meeting of Junior Hide. Now

846
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: they all at the school and now it's getting personal

847
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: because some area has to be king of that school.

848
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: So when we went to Washington from our the eighties,

849
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: soul train was coming out and all every three things,

850
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: what's happening, soul train, game banging and pop locking. They

851
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: all still talked about today. So we didn't set trip.

852
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: We set in trends here to night. So then when

853
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: they start, I get caught with a gun and no

854
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: more than by the time I come back. It looks

855
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: like they have a structure the way they got guys

856
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: telling them what to do. Don't forget we only fourteen fifteen,

857
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: so we got my crew were were just as active

858
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: as anybody because you can always heard the strangers. So

859
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: we're coming from the eighties and the sixties was coming

860
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: uh Odie Shaw, Raymond Potts, uh New House, Herman Mond Creek,

861
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: uh Mark Bolden Uh just a gang or we can

862
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: go back over him later. But the point was we

863
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: were unified. But when the hoobers came out, that's when

864
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: the problem happened. Because the hundreds now they're getting kicked out.

865
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you one of my friends. Y'all know

866
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: who Elvis is. If you don't know, that's who started

867
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: the Swans. I think its last name Wilson, Elvis Wilson

868
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: and Michael read my dear Washington. Okay, let's get a

869
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: lot of we're gonna make it happen to night. We're

870
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: gonna have some fun because tonight we're not playing. So

871
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: now Elvin's got killed that man Chester Park where really

872
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: what had happened because the boy was in by I'll

873
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: tell you all my friends got murder conviction and the

874
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: man that was accused of that was invited with me Peabody,

875
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: You Berry, Marcus, Uh None which is uh China Doll

876
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: SENTI and None. I've been known their family since they

877
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: were had at the house since thirteen. So when we

878
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: had to start, when we we and we let me

879
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: tell you any blood that was in their ear on down.

880
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: Tell about if we started breaking up in seventy I've

881
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: been going to jail. You got to get him that Chaluke,

882
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: because it would be about fifty us to one. But

883
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: we never abused the privilege and markets none to tell you.

884
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: When Peabody called it second murder, his little brother came

885
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: with him and they put him in the crypt module

886
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: and he only was eighteen, and he told me, Peabody,

887
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: my brother, I ain't never been in jail. He went

888
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: to jail where line Coop and I say, hold up, y'all,

889
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: this is Peabody brother and I say, don't worry about nothing.

890
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: True story. A lot of time we don't. We didn't

891
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: go because it's only business on the street. But it's

892
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: no way in our era we're gonna be honorable where

893
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to rat pack somebody or nothing. Then, Uh,

894
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: Salty got killed, Ricky Silas Chocolate. A lot of body

895
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: started falling in the early years. While I can name

896
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: it all day long behind what we're going through down.

897
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: So what happened on the West Side started internally when

898
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: the Hoobers came out the hundreds because they're coming to Watchington.

899
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: Not only did they not like the hunt Hooverers, they

900
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 1: didn't like the boys. They could have went to Crenshall,

901
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: which was the uh the hip hop school you had

902
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: so trained dancer. But y'all also that was the money

903
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: that dere heights and plus it weren't acted. Seeing sixty

904
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: nine Crenshall weren't acted. When you go to Watchington, it's activity. Yeah,

905
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: that's when you got underground Block one eleven, Uh payback Watergate,

906
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: Raymond all them are right there and they all come

907
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: from Henry Clay, So that means they got a farm system.

908
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: If you were treated like a team the way. They

909
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: don't want from elementary fucking up to junior fucking up.

910
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: Now the in high school and we're coming in. We

911
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: got the silves to make them respect us. We're not

912
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 1: from over, We're coming from a horseman. So when that happened,

913
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: the Hoovers, which ended up being the sixties because they

914
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: started to start the east side Bishops, which were west side.

915
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: When I moved off Thready Third, I went on six

916
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: tenth Avenue, and I knew about space coats and them

917
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: all over there on the east side bitshops, but I

918
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: never heard of a west side bit shop. Sow me

919
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: therefoot cookie, Michael Conception. Uh. We set up and I

920
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: pull up, and I see a group of men, and

921
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: this is how you get where you're from, sort of.

922
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: I see a group of dudes coming from Dorsey hey Pool.

923
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: Who stem over there? Oh, man, see you the marks.

924
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: I walk over there. I said, where y'all from? They

925
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: said west side? I mean now, they said bishops. They

926
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: need to have the west side. They say bishops. So

927
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: I say, like bishops with space coasting them on the

928
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: east side. He said yeah. I say, y'all ain't got

929
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: cripp on that. I say, don't be here, Tomorre m hm.

930
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: And next day I can see his name, they know it.

931
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: The next day they were there, and we had a problem.

932
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: And what I tell you about problems, okay you don't

933
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: so I don't have to see it to you. And

934
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: that's what happened. And then the sixties started. But it

935
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: was a problem you already had in hood from one eleven,

936
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: Baby's Face, the Manual family, Uh, the over Hills, Uh,

937
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: those were the ones, and baby Face in particular, and

938
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: Fred Hill because I was with him. Because I told

939
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: you we was robbing ice cream trucks or armored trucks

940
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: at fourteen, so we was having money also. So they said,

941
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: well they want eleven, we six. So see how they

942
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: go makes sense because you already had one eleven. But

943
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: they were in hood, So how are you gonna have

944
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: an in hood up there in the end up up here?

945
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: And we with hoovers and they're fighting hoovers because that's

946
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: when it started, so the hoovers and yes, right, you're

947
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: moving and groobing. We never turned our backs on them.

948
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: We didn't understand why they crips that y'all getting at

949
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: them like that. See, so internal fighting already had started.

950
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: So that's the longest war. When they come to crip hittually,

951
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: not the sixties and the eight trades, it's the Hoovers

952
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: and the hundreds. They never Chapin's to this day. So

953
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: we didn't understand it. So we joined up with them,

954
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: and then we end up and I say we're gonna

955
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: start against the Crips because I'm the founder, co founder.

956
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: So when I see them doing not this before that,

957
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: when I let's get back to when I come out

958
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: and now they don't start at the set where when

959
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: I went in it wasn't but one and I see

960
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: to get them, and I pulled my crew. We leave,

961
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: we stay on eighty three and I say we're gonna

962
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: be gainst the crypt. So I wrote on the wall

963
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: Melvin Farmer, Gangster Crypt. And then that's when we reunited

964
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: with the Hoovers and we had seven for eight tray

965
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: nine dues one oh seven. We locked down that corridor

966
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: down eighty three from that freeway down to where when

967
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: you come to van Nes that side it's crypt. Now

968
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: you've got Jan Brewer, which later would be the Enwood families.

969
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: That this time they were a chain game. Wesley Logan

970
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: little Caesar. So that was to make up on the

971
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: west side. We didn't have games. They had clicked and

972
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: they started from the junior highs mixing because remember when

973
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: that murder happened, they cleaned out the west side. That

974
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: was it wasn't a lot of people that were actually

975
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: get involved. It wasn't a lot of them. Like if

976
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: you would think it was, oh, it's ten tookies, then

977
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: now the eight crowd would be because she it maybe

978
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: four or five of them, it would never be done.

979
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: They hadn't expanded. But when we joined in and like

980
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: you say, the older ones say, we arrived to be

981
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: we juvenile. They didn't have to tell us took them

982
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: or none of them ever went to jail after we

983
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: got in the game. They didn't have to do nothing,

984
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: have fun. We got this and our records would showed

985
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: that we what we did. So we don't have to talk.

986
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: I don't We don't gualify. We just here to give

987
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: a testimony as witnesses and do God that we here.

988
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: We're not here to brag and we want to and

989
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: we want to give condolences to every mother, father, sister,

990
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: and brother in America that has lost somebody that sense

991
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: he's come by us because we cover it all, whether

992
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: his friends, family, folk, or even those that are here

993
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: to serve to protect you. We want to be where

994
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 1: we would be able to be and talk to all

995
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: community influencers now today with is your change. I don't

996
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: want four a circle where I don't want from a

997
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: tax burden to a taxpayer. While everybody talking about retirement

998
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: and getting home, I'm bragging about my little job at

999
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: Trader Joe's and I'm getting three hundred dollars and I

1000
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: ain't been broken this. I ain't been broke to talk

1001
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: about breaking the law for three hundred dollars and I

1002
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: don't add men. But I earned this, that's right. And

1003
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: I gotta sens a pride to where if I sucked

1004
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: this off, I could have gave that to my daughter

1005
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: in college. I ain't sucking it off. And don't y'all

1006
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: do it and sunk off this opportunity. I call it

1007
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: practicing poor passing over opportunities repeatedly. Okay, we've been doing

1008
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: it too long, y'all. Guy giving us an opportunity that's

1009
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: sharing care and we'll be all right. Yeah, let me

1010
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: ask you a question, because you go back the guns

1011
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: one and listen to you guys story. I think this

1012
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: is quietus I ever been to an interview because I'm

1013
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: just listening everything you talk about all of sounds like

1014
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: it was playing and orchestrated, like it was somebody's pupping

1015
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: mass from something. Because you know, most definitely, because if

1016
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: you go back to the cocaine and start off with

1017
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: some ball and stuff, then he turns the crack and

1018
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: tears the community of right then you said everything used

1019
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: to be from the shoulders like this. Then the choppers come.

1020
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: When did the guns win? And how did the guns communes?

1021
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: That's what I thought about. Sometimes you able to do it.

1022
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: Get freeway back up here. Don't forget he was messing

1023
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: with the con So when the drugs came, let me

1024
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: tell you what we thought, that's when the weaponry trained.

1025
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: They were sending. Also weapons of war were that were

1026
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: for military purposes. So that's when automatics come over here

1027
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: with the drug trade and the Consta Nostro there uh

1028
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: in El Salvador, and they found that the money trail

1029
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: could be easily attracted from the ghetto. And that's when

1030
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: they start, um what's his name, um the general? No, no,

1031
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: what the one we took the beach for America. John

1032
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: so he took the bet for getting the money and

1033
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: bringing the eight case to uh the United States and

1034
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: push pushing them into the ghetto. So it's always been orchestrated.

1035
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: Is we haven't from the Emascipation Proclamation. We have never

1036
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: been our own individual self. When we talked about the

1037
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: Emascipation Proclamation in eighteen sixty five, blocks were freed and

1038
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: done freedom. We never had an economical situation. In eighteen

1039
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: sixty five, blocks were one percent of the economical situation

1040
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: of America. In two thousand twenty, we're still one percent.

1041
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,959
Speaker 1: So we haven't made any progress and a hundred fifty

1042
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: six years, how did that be? Okay? So I answer

1043
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: this question too. You coming from you know the era,

1044
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: what do you feel and what do you see? Like

1045
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: every out he's screaming his vote vote this ship, vote that,

1046
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: vote that, do this? You what did you see as

1047
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: a system change? What have you've seen change as far

1048
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: as the time that you have sence from the only

1049
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: way with like me and Mevin involved with Credible Messengers.

1050
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: Credible Messengers is a nationwide community of ex convicts and

1051
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: we go out to make change in children's lives, in

1052
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: people's life. I don't tell you what I did to glorify.

1053
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: I tell you what I did that. It was just

1054
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: like me being in the third grade. From the sixth grade.

1055
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: I've done dumb stuff and I had to repeat the

1056
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Speaker 1: school year. You did what I'm saying, so you ain't

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Speaker 1: got to repeat it. So now today what we're doing

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01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,479
Speaker 1: and what we what we do as blocks in a hole.

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01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: Whoever is the president, it's not gonna change you. We

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01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: ain't got a dog in the fight. If Mickey Mouse

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01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,479
Speaker 1: was the president, it wouldn't change our lives. So people

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01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: screaming all the it's led by the old. So let

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01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: me show you it's a conflict the interest. I'm gonna

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01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: get right down to the point, not to cut you off,

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01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: but it's gonna make it real simple for y'all. Let's

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Speaker 1: look at it. We'll just say organizations. And I have

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01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: no problems with any organization that can do something to

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Speaker 1: brain and save a person's life. But I just attect

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01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: things differently, and that's by the law. Now, when it

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01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: comes to law, why is it when we were talking

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01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: about voting, why would the vote matter when the same

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01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: people are still doing the same things. Where we want

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01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: from water holes is to chokehos. Whether it's Democrat or Republican.

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01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: What's more important is we can make decisions. And when

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01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: we talk about changes voting, when they talk they're talking

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01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: on the federal level. But when it comes to change

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01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: in the community, you start at the local state and

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01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: elected officials that are getting the funding where it's not

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01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: coming to the community. So that's where we concentrate our

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01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: area on our boat. Ain't gonna matter if they beat

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01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: them so much to any because they get money. They up,

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01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: they're getting money. Black lives matter, get all the money,

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01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't they want to make a lot of

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01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: child law law change? When you see civil rights attorneys

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01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: that are got it locked in where they're getting fourteen

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01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: million jets for a child getting killed by police, it's

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01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 1: much simpler. Why would you want to change the law

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01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: when you're getting all the money. So when they're out

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01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: there as a spokesperson, there's a conflict the entrant. How

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01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: are you gonna try to stop something that will stop

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01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: your income? But now this is the thing twice, we

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: have to make it to where somebody where when you

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01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: talk about police brutality, it starts with qualified immunity. That

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01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: is what give them the opportunity to kill our kids

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01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: with impunity. Now we're gonna get to the civil rights

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01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: that I do for twenty three years, and I think

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01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm arguingly the most best in the nation because I've

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01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: been doing it and been awarded numerous but nobody really

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01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: here about it. See I got we have plans, not promises.

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01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: So when it comes to UH police brutality, when it

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01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: comes to a sessive force, it goes back to voting

1102
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: and and and walk intin your feet. Believe those are opinions.

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01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 1: But the problem stems from h the the UH preponderance

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01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: of evidence when it comes to standard of proof to

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01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: get a police in court, let alone for conviction, as

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01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: opposed to the standard of proof when we do the

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01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: same act, we got that so forth you commit murder,

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01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: the evidence means beyond a reasonable or beyond the preponderance evidence.

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01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: That's what we get, like for when an officer killed

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01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: because of qualified immunity. And that's why you m say

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: I thought that seeing that look it appeared, I feared

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01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: because in the court of law that means you have

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01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: to prove when anybody been to the fist that a

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01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: conspiracy and death because it's just that and intent, or

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01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: you won't have a federal case, you have a state case.

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01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: So the burden of proof is different when it comes

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01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: to the police. You have to prove intent. You never

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01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: can prove intent to a police when they wake up

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01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: in the morning not knowing what they job intel and

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01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: they're trained well enough to know all they got to

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01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: do it. So I thought it seeing that look it appeared,

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01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: I feared because in the court of law those words

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01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: means something. I had to life sentences where two words

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01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: were said at the end of the question, though, and

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01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: each time I got a reverse. Her one point can

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01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: change the whole outcome, and that's the word intent. When

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01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: you look up the color of authority that they work

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01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: up under, you cannot prove unless you prove intent. You

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01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: never can indict the police, but they'll be held accountable

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01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: for personal uh liability. And that's where we have a

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01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: five their plan, and that's when we talk about uh

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01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: ponent's over side. We have a plan for that. But

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01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: you see I had a knowledge to address that on

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01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: another It's where we just make it. But let me

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01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Let me inject on that on

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01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: your plan. When you talk about a plan. You asked

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01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: what we were doing about the vote and people crying

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01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: about the vote, right, And I told you we don't

1139
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: have a dog in the race. Every politician other than us,

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01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 1: they have accountability to their people exactly. Whatever they say,

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01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: whatever they say, they're held account before it. If a

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01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: Mexicans say something bore on the constituent, one of his

1143
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: kids get hung or his relatives get hung. In Mexico,

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01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: we have leaders that we have no accountability. They can

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01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: talk for Compton and never been in Compton. They can

1146
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: do these things, so it's no accountability to get them.

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01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: So we've never had we've never we've never had a

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01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: party of leaders to ask America for anything. We didn't

1149
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 1: We've never asked for anything. So you can't get anything.

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01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know. President Obama in eight

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01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: or nineteen, I mean two thousand twelve came up with

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01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: a law called the Jobs Act, and he says, I'm

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01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: gonna break the wealth gap so minorities can get the

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01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: same money as the class right in Chapter seven of

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01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,759
Speaker 1: the Jobs Act. And he said in two thousand and twelve,

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01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: go tell the blacks, right, So now, when they made

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01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: the law in two thousand and fifteen and made the

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01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: Jobs Act law economical wealth, they said, go tell minorities

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: that don't make you a nigger. Huh. So now the Iranians,

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01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: the Mexicans, the jack's been dealing with the job Acts.

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01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: Today is the first time y'all ever heard of it

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01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: on so the jobs Let me tell you the job

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01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: it's a closing the wealth gap. They have something if

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01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: you ever heard of unicorn stock. Unicorn stock is a

1165
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,839
Speaker 1: bucket stock that goes into when he goes to Wall Street,

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01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: it becomes a billion dollar stock. It's the only thing

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01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: that you can get a thousand percent of on interests.

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01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: If you give a hundred dollars, you get a hundred thousand.

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01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's unicorn stock. It automatically

1170
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 1: goes They say they find four hundred unicorns a year

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01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,480
Speaker 1: in the world. They don't have but three in America.

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01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: That dude, Robert Heren from Shark Tank. He left Shark Tank.

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01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: He has especially comes on YouTube called Angels and Entrepreneurs

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01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: and he charges from five hundred to five thousand dollars

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01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: to find a unicorn. They say in this first hour,

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01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: he had seventy thousand people that came in on him.

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01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: So he's getting paid every month just to find a unicorn. Right,

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01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: and in all of that, you won't have one black unicorn.

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01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: It's never been a black unicorn. But today it is

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01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: me and my partner's We just if you look at

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01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: the Black Unicorn factory, my partner's uh, Johnny Stewart just

1182
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: he just got out of the FEDS in April last month.

1183
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,839
Speaker 1: He just acquired two hundred and twenty five million dollars

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01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: for Unicorn stock. By March, he will be a unicorn

1185
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: and we will be the first black billionaire company. You

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01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: did what I'm saying, so not knowing, not knowing economical

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01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: value of what we're doing. People talking for us and

1188
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 1: talk about us. But even after the riots, everybody property

1189
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: but blocks. The Koreans got new money, everybody got new ship,

1190
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: but we still got vernal places on on Vere Mountain

1191
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 1: and Manchester people's but ain't nothing but a lie came

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01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: back and building nothing in the black community. Because we

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01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: asked for nothing, we ain't got. You think what I'm saying.

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01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: So when it all comes down and you hear every

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01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: politician when they speak and they said we're gonna do

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01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: this for minority and we're gonna do They never mentioned

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01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: black people in America. Can you guys, were nothing cuts

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01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: you off? I want to ask a question that may

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01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: be kind of rhetorical, it may not be an answer.

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01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: What do we do now? Because it seems like our

1201
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: community is another chaos. Our kids are losing their minds.

1202
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,839
Speaker 1: You got kids running around wearing dress, boys wearing dresses,

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01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: um and it's almost like, you know, sometimes if you

1204
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: look at it almost seems like, man, is the world

1205
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: about the end? You know, you got the rumors of war,

1206
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: you got the pandemics from the round, You've got people.

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01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: You know, if you broke it down the street man,

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01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, you passing brother using your acknowledge that the

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01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: brother you're doing bever, you look like you look like

1210
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: they you know you kind of like like like what

1211
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: I try to make it a point to when I

1212
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 1: see another brother, always say hey, what's up? Or try

1213
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: to give up that that that that you know you

1214
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: could pull up on the motherfuckering give him that look

1215
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,440
Speaker 1: and be wrong. So you try to do that nowadays,

1216
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: trying to break the ice in certain situations because I

1217
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: think you're gonna always run into that. And it's another

1218
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: thing too. What happened to are you doing? Sir? Where

1219
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,560
Speaker 1: did O G come from? Like? And I don't mind that,

1220
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: but to me, it's disrespect. We see what's happing O G.

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01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: What do you know what I mean? Like like O

1222
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: G right now, I mean the opportunity together. We need

1223
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,759
Speaker 1: to change that dialogue to where you think the bog

1224
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 1: you got the beach hardcore. See, sometimes we have to

1225
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: change the dialogue else we ain't gonna never change your thing.

1226
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: So we need to make it with O G. Just

1227
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 1: stand for opportunity. Gither then anybody age because what they

1228
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: do is try to make it look like they was

1229
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: here there in the beginning. But then when we do that,

1230
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: like his grandson, they don't want to listen to it.

1231
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: That's because you ain't give them them. No, they don't

1232
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: get the resources. And that's come back to where the

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01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: resources not coming because what happened is you have to

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01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: get economical developed in the community. Let me tell you

1235
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 1: they had the hundred days hundred nights. We're gonna get

1236
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: to the point when the hundred days hundred nights started.

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01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: That's when l A and UH every game in l

1238
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 1: A was after the hoovers and the trades, and that

1239
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: was when they said they was gonna kill somebody. Crime

1240
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: and murder was at all time low. And you probably

1241
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: heard of the community. I'm from their valley. So from

1242
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: to this day you hear all the politicians and Caring

1243
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: Bath and everybody that's against public safety, Mike Gibson, and

1244
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: they'll be bragging about crime is down. But it's also

1245
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: through their efforts. But a lot of times people that

1246
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: are closest and had a boot to the ground, they

1247
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: do the work when the cameras not around. So those

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01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: are the ones that are work where I can say

1249
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: just overall crime from the highest and where there was

1250
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: when the streets like come on to where we at now,

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01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: it's a tremendous uh. That's but like when Nipsey Hustle

1252
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: murder happened in Unity Games, if you think Nipsey Hustle

1253
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: murder made it to where the eight Trade gangsters overnight happened.

1254
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: I just put a picture of a big you tony

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01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: station where in Melvin already had a vision because I'm

1256
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: in a church where everybody in there, big youth, family

1257
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: and all sixties and they were still warn I've been

1258
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: discussed that and that's when the murders went down. Where

1259
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: we kept its secret. So when we hear the other stories,

1260
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: they add bros in it, But Melvin had his hands.

1261
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: And where I do deals to where I bring in

1262
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: opposing sets to where they create dialog. That's what I do.

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01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm a community organizer and I basically had where we

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01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: should have diplomatic and I do on my side of

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01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: the town and any where else because I never crossed

1266
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: the line. When the crypts went into crypt on crypt

1267
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: in a d I retired because I knew everybody from

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01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: seventy one that made it what it is at that

1269
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 1: time and I couldn't go back. So and at the

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01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: end of the day, we have an organization where we

1271
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: have on our own where we can do it on

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01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: our own to where we write, like I said, we

1273
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: cover police brutality, police oversight, community concerns, and community and

1274
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: citizens complaint. Not only do we talk about games, because

1275
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I'm coming to run for a district,

1276
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: I talk about homelessness. I'm gonna do it. A new

1277
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: bill called Isis, which is in a city stress central

1278
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: to where like they say, they got p s D

1279
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: or S T D or whenever they go to war.

1280
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: These kids been born in the war, and who talked

1281
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 1: for them? When these youths are being violated and they're

1282
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 1: not getting a chance. So we're not just talking about it.

1283
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: I feel that should be to where these kids we

1284
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: have to partaken in. Just because of elephant has the

1285
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: biggest head doesn't mean he got all the sense. So

1286
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: in other birds I want to get and where we

1287
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: all have a voice with your generation. That that way

1288
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 1: you hear the thoughts and then we react off their

1289
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: thoughts and go into action. If they say this what

1290
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: bothering them? I ain't gonna argue them. If that's what

1291
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: bothering You'm to see what I can do to help

1292
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: take that helment away. And that's how you preach and teach.

1293
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: We have to set example from him where he taught me,

1294
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: because you know, I'll tell y'all want to hear that

1295
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: we argued before we are exactly and hey, we argued

1296
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: all day. What we do shows high and we let

1297
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:44,560
Speaker 1: it go and look how the show came out. Nobody hesitated,

1298
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 1: all of us speaking from the heart. Grown men can

1299
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: talk to each other, especially when you've been through the same.

1300
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 1: You know, trials and tributa the same stand each other.

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01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 1: I just want to ask one more question. Um, I

1302
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: like to I want to give people because you know

1303
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: I when I do songs or when I write, you know,

1304
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: I put out music. I always try to give people

1305
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: to the sense of it's never to glorify where I

1306
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 1: was from or the situations Compton. You know, I grew

1307
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: up whatever, it was always a product of my environment.

1308
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: Now you say your grandson is uh, the the young

1309
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: Look he's how old? When my grand size twenty? My son,

1310
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:32,839
Speaker 1: I gotta some sixteen? Right, it's the product of your environment.

1311
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 1: Do you feel that adapts to the product of their environment?

1312
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 1: Because I lived in Spook Town automatically, by the time

1313
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: it was you to go was it was, it was

1314
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: natural to game, right to join the set, so to speak. Okay,

1315
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: I started wrapping, making music, whatever I moved out to,

1316
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: you know, the something birds, you know, emin Empire. My

1317
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: son never seen gang banging, but from what he's heard

1318
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: from me and stories of the homies and watching Minister Society,

1319
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: me acting and whatever, it's never had that. You know,

1320
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: his life was growing up. He's a football start at

1321
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: his high school and I put him in sports at

1322
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: three years old, so I gave him a different environment.

1323
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: So to speaking, if he grew up where I was banging,

1324
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: is natural that nine times out of ten he probably

1325
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 1: would be banging to because he has to serve a

1326
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 1: youth and in the city where when you moved him out,

1327
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: he had total freedom to be itself. Like when you

1328
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: take a youth into a music thing where they got instruments.

1329
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 1: You might want him to play a horn, but he'd

1330
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: be banging the drums when that's what you should have

1331
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: got cuts his ears telling him that's what he liked.

1332
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: But when let me, let me, let me invene intervene

1333
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 1: on that, because sometimes just because you move a kid somewhere,

1334
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: don't change their lifestyle. There's not let me just let

1335
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,600
Speaker 1: me just want some some work some people, and some

1336
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 1: people have moved out of Watts and moved to Rancho

1337
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 1: Coca Manga and they got Rancho Coca Manga bloods because

1338
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't doing nothing in the hood and when he

1339
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: got out there from but when they first rode the

1340
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: ranch from Cuca Manga was exclusive over time. That's not

1341
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 1: a long Let's not make it where he's wrong, but

1342
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you the calls and effects. Don't forget

1343
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: when they moved from watch that's the equivalent of Beverly

1344
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: Goddamn Hills. And during time with gentrification came and forced

1345
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: you there. Then they set you there, and now they're

1346
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: sending that environment where it don't being placed here. See

1347
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: how that's depantification. Because in the ever, when you say

1348
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: you move to Watts, don't. I'm not saying. You know

1349
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: when they from out there to Rancho, I guarantee you

1350
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: when they started it was an exclusive area. So now

1351
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,480
Speaker 1: when you say they went there and they were gangbanging,

1352
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: there was no gang banging there until they relocated. That's cobble.

1353
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,759
Speaker 1: You can research it so I can vigialize that area

1354
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: where you're right. But later on, but what he's asking,

1355
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: what he asked is about the environment of children and

1356
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: how his child where he grew up at now undercover,

1357
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: his kid may be a great kid, but he's still

1358
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: got the image gangster father. M c A right, he's

1359
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: still got the grounds a counter right. You know what

1360
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He may be where he at, but every

1361
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: night and then he gonna buffett to his peers. Because

1362
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: this is what it's it's about now doing the struggle.

1363
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: My kids grew up in County. Most I got him

1364
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 1: that didn't grew up in Pasadena. My son the one

1365
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: that just told me that, Uh, couldn't nobody tell me nothing.

1366
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 1: This boy went to private school, he went to Sarah

1367
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: High School, went to college, came back out and still

1368
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: became a fruit time by her, You did what I'm saying,

1369
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: So the environment sometimes perceives it's not what I did

1370
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: for him, but what somebody else told him. I was like,

1371
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: I told him, I just met you. How do you

1372
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: know what I did when I was a kid. You

1373
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: did what I'm saying, So, environment a lot of times

1374
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: just because he's basing his reputation or being from fruit

1375
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 1: Town because of what he heard about O your dad

1376
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: was doing this, and you got, like I'm telling you,

1377
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: you got a forty fifty year old dude and still

1378
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 1: in the park. He's only in the park because he

1379
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 1: lost his mama's house. He's riding the bicycle, not because

1380
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: the exercise, because he don't have a driver's license. And

1381
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: he's telling a fifteen or sixteen year old about being

1382
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: O G's and he really never met James. You didn't

1383
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: say he wasn't cool. At the time, James was cool,

1384
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: but now, oh yeah, man, I was with him c

1385
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: A not in this. But who is the one the

1386
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: balance that say you're lying? So that's why I could

1387
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: when we talk about how we control I keep it

1388
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: relevant in the hood. Like brother was just saying, I

1389
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: have to have respect. Don't call me O G. I'm

1390
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 1: now Mr. Mr Kenzie. I earned that respect, Nigga when

1391
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: when we're not teammates, you did what I'm saying, you

1392
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 1: feel okay? Do you feel offended when when Nigga's come

1393
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: up to you or know of your history, do you

1394
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: feel offended by them associating you with that? No? I

1395
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: mean I'm who I am because of what I wouldn't

1396
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 1: change a thing in my life. I grew up, like

1397
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 1: I said, I thought I was in the Beaver Clear.

1398
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: They told me Compton was together in nineteen seventy and

1399
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: why I didn't understand it. It's nothing I would have done.

1400
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: I would have changed my some things that I read

1401
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: my mother through. You did what I'm saying, But everything

1402
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: else I did it for a purpose. I didn't go

1403
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: in I didn't get into gang banging for because somebody

1404
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 1: jumped me in I see the economical value, and I was,

1405
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 1: I was. I was manufacturing PCP when I got out

1406
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 1: of prison, and I put it down with my little

1407
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: homeboys so we could do things out of time. Everybody

1408
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 1: had catalogs A little fellow, uh babe for all all

1409
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: of them, Uh Danny Pittman, all of them dudes came

1410
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 1: up under me. You did what I'm saying. So it's

1411
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 1: certain things that I can't hide from. And I don't

1412
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: say I'm sorry for what I did. It was an education,

1413
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 1: but you don't have to go through the same struggle

1414
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: I did. Now I want to answer that. And asked

1415
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: me the same question because that's from a prospective view,

1416
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: and that's from a political view where they priested that.

1417
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna talk about the crypts view because I

1418
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 1: believe Blew. Now, I asked me the same question because

1419
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: he eats under the four years. Now, I asked me

1420
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 1: the same question. That's what you asked. Was you asked,

1421
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: was do you think when I moved my son to Rancho?

1422
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 1: Did you think that make it? Because my son ain't

1423
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: been subjected to it. And now let me tell you

1424
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 1: when I said what I said, and it does make

1425
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: a difference. Sometimes you can be blinded by the light

1426
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 1: with their answers. In the dark, all I know is

1427
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 1: whatever you did was successful, and that's what I would

1428
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: call protocol. There's nothing else to explain because as I said,

1429
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: his opinion is right. And once again I always go

1430
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: back to pro black and anti black. Those are two

1431
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: different ideologies. So you cannot press your ideology when what

1432
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: you're talking about is the kids that committed violence that

1433
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: create exactly what they're talking about. That era didn't commit

1434
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: and make the bloods and the crypts. They were pro

1435
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 1: blacks or else we when they had to fight him

1436
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 1: when we went there. That that so that. But what

1437
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying is the question was did it change to

1438
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: where he had a chance. To me, when I look

1439
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: at it, all I see as a kid because he

1440
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 1: didn't have to avoid gun violence, didn't have to worry

1441
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: about being pressure, could concentrate and focus on and have

1442
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: a chance to survive. It succeeded and he didn't get

1443
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: in trouble where a lot of times we're just born

1444
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: in the in the community where to where we don't

1445
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: have no choice but to try to survive every day

1446
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: and get what we can, how we can, and it

1447
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: could be kind of any kind of way. So it

1448
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: goes back to your economic cor and we need to

1449
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 1: start doing what you say as for us bringing the thing,

1450
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: but also practicing what you're telling us now to where

1451
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 1: I understand what I made. My mistake. That was a

1452
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 1: hellable question you did and his solution. I learned something

1453
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: that Hey, they go back to listening and saying all

1454
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: we need to do is sprouted their protocol because they

1455
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,799
Speaker 1: were pro That means they never had no hard feelings

1456
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: towards me in your life, which you fas them different, right,

1457
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 1: but the he in the same what you're talking about.

1458
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 1: What you're talking this is two thousand and twenty, and

1459
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 1: we got the same plague. So these kids don't are

1460
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: not growing up having to really set You were setting

1461
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: tripping off each other. Now, so where did we get

1462
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: that dispensation? You did what I'm saying, Well, I can

1463
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying about moving the child out in

1464
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: a safe space, but now where's the safe space with

1465
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: the media with the thing. You got gang bangers in

1466
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 1: Mississippi in the woods exactly, you did what I'm saying,

1467
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,839
Speaker 1: So what was what's their difference. So with media changing

1468
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: with this and that it's not all the time you

1469
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: can save a kid. I had. I had a lady

1470
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: tell me one time that she never knew. She sent

1471
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 1: her son out every day in a uniform, and he

1472
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: went to the bushes and put on some gang to

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Speaker 1: her and when people told her about it, she custom

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01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 1: out until he got arrested for a murder. Ten years

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01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: this boy was gang banging and his mom them never knew.

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01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 1: Because now with the workforce, with the things that parents

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01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: are doing. See, the system took children out of our

1478
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: control for thirty years. You can't whoop them. You can't

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01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,560
Speaker 1: do nothing to him. So now children feel like I

1480
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: gotta right. I'll call nine one one on. You have

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01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:24,799
Speaker 1: parents scared of their children. Now America has abandoned black children.

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01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,839
Speaker 1: Now they tell you that they closed down LP. Juvenile

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01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 1: Hall only has hard crimes. You did what I'm saying,

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01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: They closed LP down the county system. Yeah, the county

1485
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: system has turned over everything to another form. Now your

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01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: child has to go and replacement. If something happened to

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01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 1: like I said before, I could put my my mother,

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01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: damn could put me in juvenile hall for incorrigible. That

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01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 1: they I wouldn't mind, and I had to go to

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01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: juvenile hall. But today if a child is incorrigible and

1491
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 1: you can't have them a child, you go to jail, yasue.

1492
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 1: In some states your fucking kid miss school or this.

1493
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 1: That's so now they didn't turn the children loose on you.

1494
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: You ain't even that with this kid in twenty years

1495
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 1: now they gotta tell you you got to deal with him.

1496
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 1: You I don't even know him. Yeah, you know this stuff. Man.

1497
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: We can go on on like man, and we will

1498
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 1: have to have y'all come on again, man, because this

1499
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: has been an incredible episode. Man, it's nothing but the

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01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 1: truth coming out. Man. Can't nobody to big enough of

1501
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: your sin because it's true and big personally. It's not

1502
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: about bloods and crypts. It's not about what side was

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01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 1: the best and what's I was this Every prison I

1504
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 1: went to, we was out numbered by cripts. You recognize

1505
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: the bloods because they still a tall and fault nine

1506
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 1: against two forty. You know what I'm I'm saying. So

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01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 1: it didn't matter about the power, It didn't matter about

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01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 1: who would I mean, it didn't meant none of that

1509
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: ship matters. Today we're killing each other. You got more

1510
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: cryps killing crypts than crypts killing bloods. What was our purpose?

1511
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: The purpose is gone now. This is what matters, the

1512
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 1: purpose of being a game member. It's no good. It's

1513
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 1: we exhausted everything here. You know what I'm saying. After

1514
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're thirty, if you eight, and you

1515
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 1: have there banging like you don't know ship, you know

1516
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. This is the experience right here. But

1517
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: people gotta understand, man, it just don't matter. Look at

1518
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 1: the color of our skin. Let's pay attention to where

1519
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: we at. As we get older, we get smarter. That's

1520
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 1: when we grow up. That's when our mentality changed. And

1521
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 1: that's when we stop doing what we're doing. And that's

1522
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: why we at the table now because we want that

1523
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: change because we got grandkids. My grandson is gonna be

1524
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: as solid as as everything. Because I'm raising the hands

1525
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 1: on not get out there and go shoot if boy,

1526
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 1: if you don't, if you get your ass, whoop, whoop

1527
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,759
Speaker 1: your at, we don't have to do that. I'm teaching

1528
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:21,720
Speaker 1: you how to be a little man, a young man,

1529
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: and then a dog man. I'm teaching me and that's

1530
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 1: what all of us need to stand up and do

1531
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 1: just teach our grandkids and our grand our sons and them.

1532
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: But you don't know what you just said, James, whether

1533
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: we was out up, but they're not in the penitentiary.

1534
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: We understood that we wasn't the enemy of each other.

1535
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: We had white boys and mesticans. Before I get mad

1536
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: at the crip, I had to take care of my

1537
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,919
Speaker 1: other business. You think I'm saying. I was in tracing

1538
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: in with nine hidden sixty crips on the line and

1539
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 1: book of Teeth and broad Away and and Swan. Big

1540
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: Swan came and told me you can't stay here, man,

1541
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 1: this is blue city. Like the same bus brought me

1542
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: brought you. How you how have the rolling up? I

1543
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 1: just did twenty two months in the hole in saying

1544
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 1: corne you think I'm a lock up. This is not

1545
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 1: going down. So now the representatives from Compton, Uh Santanna,

1546
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 1: Mike Sherwood boun they I've been knowing these since kids,

1547
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 1: and they're like, man home, if y'all got some against marm,

1548
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: you've got something. Sherwood came out one morning with a

1549
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: red sweatshirt on a front hood crib. That's right. This

1550
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 1: was you could still red where you did what I'm

1551
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 1: saying so so so we understand that it was basic us.

1552
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 1: You did what I'm saying when he sat tripping and this,

1553
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 1: and like I'm saying, uh Malarbruke, Mike from Hoover, all

1554
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 1: of these dudes that I've been going with, Like, man,

1555
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 1: if even that being growing up, being a blood, you

1556
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 1: had to respect each other because wherever you went you

1557
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: was out number. You didn't have a choice. If I

1558
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 1: don't if we now we can go into shell and fight.

1559
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 1: But after that show, but we're gonna go to child hall.

1560
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 1: We're gonna do whatever. We can walk to yard and

1561
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 1: do whatever. But I mean all of that is like

1562
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 1: out the window. Let's let's say, yeah, this could be manday.

1563
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,719
Speaker 1: But I think I, like you said, we we've learned

1564
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: a little better that you know, a lot of us

1565
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: who have grown up and mature, have you know, learned

1566
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 1: the ways of trying to educate, at least in our

1567
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 1: section or the youth we know we try to give

1568
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 1: knowledge to. So, like you said, we could talk for

1569
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 1: hours an hour about the same ship we go. Can

1570
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 1: we gonna shut it down? No, man, because I can

1571
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 1: keep we can keep going to twelve o'clock and legs

1572
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 1: now Man. Where can the people find out your information?

1573
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:58,440
Speaker 1: Then where can they go? Melvin Farmer um credible messenger.

1574
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm on all forms of media outlets, social media, when

1575
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 1: it comes to audio, video or print, I have a

1576
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 1: YouTube station hid in Corners. I'm an author where you

1577
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: can go to Amazon. I wrote a book called The

1578
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: New Slaves to Shift three strikes you in because I'm

1579
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,560
Speaker 1: the first three striker to get a life sentence and

1580
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 1: the first in the history to ever be released on

1581
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: a reversal. I've also a new political action committee. You

1582
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: can email me Melvin Former uh three five nine at

1583
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Or you can call Dr Rosie Milligan

1584
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 1: Books and you guys that have ideas to where you

1585
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 1: want your books published. We have a publishing company, Milligan Books.

1586
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 1: If you have loved ones in jail, you can come here.

1587
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 1: We can get the magazines where they have to uh

1588
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 1: give it miss the way it be consent to them.

1589
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 1: So a lot of information that's hid in books. So

1590
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 1: you aspiring authors, you're free to come. But there you

1591
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 1: can go and called us three two three seven five

1592
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 1: Old thirty five ninety two. You can also get your

1593
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 1: health products they do UH cat scans. They give out

1594
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 1: insurance because a lot of these kids and you all

1595
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: agree it is one of our major problems is we

1596
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 1: don't have insurance and these kids die where you have

1597
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 1: to have car watches for their generals. We have another

1598
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: company that's one of the biggest growing in Inglewood that

1599
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: I've worked with as an ambassador, UH called PHP People

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01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: Helping People run by Donald Quay nine and so we've

1601
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 1: got a lot of information and things. We don't really

1602
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 1: have enough time, but I have a plan to where

1603
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 1: if we organize and UH we can make something happen,

1604
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 1: where we can make a change. But more importantly, I'm

1605
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 1: running for the eighth district. I think that's where change starts.

1606
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm not here UH sit and talk about it like

1607
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 1: you said here and we have to go to local.

1608
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: It's not the fall of the elected officials when it

1609
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 1: comes to the federal level. To bring change, you have

1610
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:03,599
Speaker 1: to go through the local and elected officials that are

1611
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:08,640
Speaker 1: held responsible for protecting our community and making sure that

1612
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 1: the community is UH represented in and that they're doing

1613
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 1: due diligence. I don't believe that due diligence in my district,

1614
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 1: eighth district is being served where one side it's getting

1615
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 1: the electric trains and new malls and another side is

1616
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 1: getting busted but only one streets. Are we gonna go

1617
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 1: and see what we can do to bring economical empowerment

1618
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 1: UH and redefine our community while also attacking the criminal

1619
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 1: justice alive tolam are Um National Representative for the West

1620
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Speaker 1: Coast with a Melvin Firmer for Credible Messengers out of

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Speaker 1: a Washington d C with Clinton Lacy and Antonio Fernandez

1622
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Speaker 1: King tone with the Latton King shout out to Sean

1623
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Speaker 1: Steph Incredible Messengers side and Um, I'm at my organization

1624
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Speaker 1: is public and makes your relationship in Compton, California. I'm

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Speaker 1: associated with the Black Unicorn Factory dot com uh bridge

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Speaker 1: and the Wealth Gap. My email is ny Protection at Gmail.

1627
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Speaker 1: That's it, man, Right, there's some incredible brothers man. And

1628
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Speaker 1: you know, we'd like to thank you man for tuning

1629
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 1: into another episode against the chronicles. You know, this is

1630
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 1: truly being man history lessen tonight, UH. One that you

1631
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 1: need to really just look at once or twice, as

1632
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 1: we got a lot of issues in the neighborhood and

1633
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 1: these are the guys. Is the leader to the future

1634
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 1: because you can't go forward without knowing your past, and

1635
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Speaker 1: go forwarding about knowing your past. Man, download I heard

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Speaker 1: Thanks we out in here yea all across the usc

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Speaker 1: Compton Watts, Thank you, l A. I'm on the California Valley.

1639
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 1: We represent at Kelly County. So if you're keeping it

1640
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 1: real on your side of your town, you tune into

1641
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles, Gangster Crown the Goals. We're gonna tell you

1642
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 1: how we go. If I lie my nose will girl

1643
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 1: like Pinocchio. We're gonna tell you to choose and nothing

1644
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: but the truth. Thanks to chronic Goals, this is not

1645
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 1: your average show. You're now tuned into the real m

1646
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 1: C eight, Big James and Big Stairs, strictly from the streets. Hello,

1647
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 1: we uh you know we represent the Jeus never no

1648
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 1: wanna bees hust Let's plays. Tune in point if you

1649
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 1: want to hear the real when you didn't come to

1650
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Speaker 1: the Rice five Gangster Chronicle, finally get a chance to

1651
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 1: let the real wants be gangster crying the coals. What's

1652
01:38:53,800 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: the word on the streets? When I right? Y'all all

1653
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:04,679
Speaker 1: across the USC Compton