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<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sinners Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>load glasses Malone. Everybody been asking me on the lunch

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<v Speaker 1>hour and where's Pete? And I really haven't told anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Why I'm like, oh, he

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<v Speaker 1>just taking a little sabbatical, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he'll be back, you know what I mean? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can tell people because this ain't for the

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<v Speaker 1>lunch hour, this is for the regular podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>This is for just audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I have to get back into like full time

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<v Speaker 3>like trading trading and shit, because like I functioned in

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<v Speaker 3>huge ebbs and flows the last couple of years, so

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<v Speaker 3>I've made like I've tripled my money in a quarter

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<v Speaker 3>and then like halved my money in a quarter like subsequently,

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<v Speaker 3>So like during stretches when I like pour a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of money into some shit and don't have any money

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<v Speaker 3>until it cycles back up again, I have to drive Uber.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got kicked off the fucking platform permanently. So

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<v Speaker 3>I joined this options trading group that goes in the mornings.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm new to it and I'm not throwing ten

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<v Speaker 3>K and these option moves out of the rip like

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<v Speaker 3>that shit's I mean, I got clobbered the first week.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, yeah, if I'm to do this

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<v Speaker 3>full time, I can't try to get in and out

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<v Speaker 3>in the mornings with the group. So I'm like on

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<v Speaker 3>the market all day long, trying to make more moves

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<v Speaker 3>at smaller volumes while I learned. And I've been learning,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's getting better. But yeah, the lunch table that

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<v Speaker 3>happens during trading hours, so I'm unavailable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they got to just hold up till we

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out. So what happened was because that was

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<v Speaker 1>your numb will just mess up pay your bills time.

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<v Speaker 1>I really tell what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is what made it even more weird. I

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<v Speaker 3>literally would just go to the gym, which is by

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<v Speaker 3>the airport in Miami Airport, sit there till someone was

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<v Speaker 3>going up to for Lauderdale and then once then go

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<v Speaker 3>to for a Lotder airport and wait till someone was

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<v Speaker 3>coming back to Miami and go home. That was all

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<v Speaker 3>I would do. I wasn't out all damn day and

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<v Speaker 3>all night long pick people. I just went from one

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<v Speaker 3>airport to the other and back. After the gym. That

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<v Speaker 3>was it don't enough enough, I don't. I got told

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<v Speaker 3>that I had complaints. Bear in mind, the city of

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<v Speaker 3>Miami is a third world cluster fuck shit show, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's more true on the roads than anywhere else. That's

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<v Speaker 3>where it all comes. Everything comes to Jesus on the roads.

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<v Speaker 3>These people don't know how to drive. They crash like

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<v Speaker 3>nothing I've ever personally seen. I've driven half a million

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<v Speaker 3>miles in Los Angeles County. I've never seen anything like this.

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<v Speaker 3>They banned me for I got apparently that I got

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<v Speaker 3>two complaints about unsafe driving practices. I must have used

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<v Speaker 3>my turn signal and it scared them strange as shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then what did Uber do?

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<v Speaker 3>They just sent me a message that you go, You're done,

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<v Speaker 3>no appeal process.

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<v Speaker 4>That's nothing I set.

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<v Speaker 3>In the peel and it's been over a week. Then

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<v Speaker 3>they don't know what They're not going to turn that.

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<v Speaker 3>I only did this to see what would happen.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna turn that shit. So we need an

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<v Speaker 1>inside plug at Uber. So shout out to everybody who

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<v Speaker 1>missions to No Sings podcast or the lunch tables. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to plug inside Uber to get Pete's account overturn.

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<v Speaker 1>Because how many stars did you have as a driver

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<v Speaker 1>out of five?

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<v Speaker 3>Like four point nine and then and then I got

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<v Speaker 3>lowered to four point like eight eight, So not real bad,

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean what I after after my spot burned

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<v Speaker 3>down in California, I drove ten hours a day, seven

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<v Speaker 3>days a week for three or four years in a row.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I didn't take a night off work for like

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen hundred days in a row. Like that's probably shortened

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<v Speaker 3>shorten it. It was probably more mh. But like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you got me. I never I never had a complain

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<v Speaker 3>like that. And usually even if you speed the app

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<v Speaker 3>tracks you you get a messa say, it looks like

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<v Speaker 3>you've been speeding lately. I hadn't had one of else.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, is I personally like I know what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple people I got a little impatient with because

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<v Speaker 3>they couldn't find where I was because they they know

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<v Speaker 3>it all, which they don't. And they go upstairs after

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<v Speaker 3>they asked me to go downstairs and then tell me

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<v Speaker 3>that they're downstairs. So I'm like, you're not, you're upstairs,

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<v Speaker 3>and they get and they get all chippy, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I tell them, go look at the sign, what's to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Read it to me out loud, And they read to

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<v Speaker 3>me out loud and they go, oh, I guess I'm upstairs.

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<v Speaker 3>I go yeah, But by that time I'm pretty pissed,

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<v Speaker 3>so they probably complained in a drive like shit, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the only thing that could have.

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<v Speaker 4>Happened that or twice.

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<v Speaker 3>I only got I only saw one of them, but

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<v Speaker 3>they said it happened twice, but they only said they

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<v Speaker 3>can only document one, so it's whatever I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>You never drove for Lyft.

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<v Speaker 3>I got banned from Lift for life.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, pe got banned from Twitter, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I got banned from every every big Silicon Valley based,

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<v Speaker 3>multi billion dollar tax.

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<v Speaker 1>Every liberal platform possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, I got banned from Lyft though for turning down

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<v Speaker 3>cheap rides at the airport. I didn't even do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just sitting there looking at it. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want that. I don't want that. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want that. And they're like, you're banned for life, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, happened. So again, to everybody who listens to No

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<v Speaker 1>Sellers podcast or or come watch the Lunch Hour on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube if you have a plug. Pete has great driving reviews.

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<v Speaker 3>We need you to make sure I want to be back.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't make more money last week than otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but anyway, we need to make sure we get

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<v Speaker 1>this off of your thing. Anyway, the option should be.

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<v Speaker 3>Available, so if y'all it's nice to have a back

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<v Speaker 3>safety of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so if the option was possible, y'all can help.

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<v Speaker 1>Please help reach out hit its own Instagram and you

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<v Speaker 1>can help out No Seilings Podcast. What's having gl I

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<v Speaker 1>got my brother Peter Boss, who hasn't been on the

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<v Speaker 1>Lunch Hour but he's back for the No Seilings podcast

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<v Speaker 1>because he does have time during the weekend and knock

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<v Speaker 1>out the weekly podcast. I got my brother King in

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<v Speaker 1>the house doing the laure's work. Then we off with

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<v Speaker 1>this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, So I hope we should have put upload the

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<v Speaker 3>video here because we finally get a chance to really

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<v Speaker 3>see King. His camera's not so far away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can adjust that too at the studio. But

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<v Speaker 1>then I kind of like the wide of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it's cool. You've got multiple people at the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So what you were saying gave me two thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why I was asking, and thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>letting me share you know what's happening. But you sent

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<v Speaker 1>me a really dope article and a lot of those

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<v Speaker 1>same things. I was thinking, you know what I mean

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<v Speaker 1>in that article, and the article just talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>America kind of how the elite and the most successful

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<v Speaker 1>people in America realized they could even make more money,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, and they decided to sell

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<v Speaker 1>out the average American citizen for their own personal glory.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the things I remember about it in

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation or in this article specifically, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>the address in this conversation was where they talked about

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<v Speaker 1>trading in production for service. Yes, like in the industry

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<v Speaker 1>for service. I read it to King too. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>crazy part. I read it to King.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to say, what, so that's the article you read

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<v Speaker 4>to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Was driving? Yeah, I've read it to King because I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to hear him and you could tell it

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody much more educated in it than I am, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because honestly, intellect will get you far. You can't overstep

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to think and process because you're lacking information.

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<v Speaker 1>But some of this stuff feels a little obvious, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And one of those things I thought about was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>America was a much better place. It might have been

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more racist, but it was a much

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<v Speaker 1>better place in the fifties and sixties, where the average

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<v Speaker 1>everyday American can go down to a factory, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and start to sacrifice their dreams per se right to

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<v Speaker 1>buy a house, take care of their family, and put

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<v Speaker 1>their kids through school. And they convinced every anybody in

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<v Speaker 1>America that you were going to become a part of

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<v Speaker 1>marketing or like service. And that's what I thought about

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<v Speaker 1>when when you taught me everything that was happening with

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<v Speaker 1>you with uber, where I was like, damn, this is

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<v Speaker 1>exactly that type of thing where it's now just a

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<v Speaker 1>service thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the economy shift happened on like I got hit

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<v Speaker 3>in the face with that when I was twenty four,

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<v Speaker 3>when the entire when like a generations model of like

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<v Speaker 3>how corporate sales worked shifted like on a dime in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and eight, and everybody went to like this

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<v Speaker 3>weird like ten ninety nine commission only sales jobs, or

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<v Speaker 3>you were either making two hundred grand or you were

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<v Speaker 3>getting like no money, or they were hiring it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I was thinking about. I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about that specifically, like that's one of those things where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the concept of convenience is ruined the

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<v Speaker 1>quality of life. Like I watched Dave Chapelle, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>huge fan of Da Chapelle, like a huge, huge fan

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<v Speaker 1>of Day Chapelle. And he was saying, like, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want those jobs. And he was talking about making shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, Yo, that's not the job he's talking about, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking about like if Trump, if we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is like he's talking about the industry jobs and

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<v Speaker 1>how everybody in America felt, oh, we were done with

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<v Speaker 1>those jobs. But whole nations are building, you know, their

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<v Speaker 1>whole economy off of those same exact like opportunities. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>And what I'm missing, Pete, like, how do they convince

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<v Speaker 1>the industry? How do they convince America? Like America? Why

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<v Speaker 1>can't America see it? Now? Like? What am I missing?

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<v Speaker 1>That makes it so hard for the average everyday American

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<v Speaker 1>to understand.

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<v Speaker 3>That understand the fact that offshoring the productive industry sector

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<v Speaker 3>had ramifications for probably a third to forty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the quality of life of working Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think like how could politics? How could politics

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<v Speaker 1>make Americans somehow not notice that this was something driven

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<v Speaker 1>by politics?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, people with politics, I mean, and it isn't a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of senses driven by politics in multiple ways. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that like you look at the agricultural and

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<v Speaker 3>like ranching sectors in the United States, which those supported

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<v Speaker 3>lots of people for a long time. You know, they've

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<v Speaker 3>become very consolidated. They don't support as many peoples they

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<v Speaker 3>used to. And a lot has to do with the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that other other countries, I mean, like like all

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<v Speaker 3>of the trade war stuff, people don't think. People think, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump's firing off tariff bombs at every country in

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<v Speaker 3>the world or whatever, Like he's basically shooting back with

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<v Speaker 3>fifty percent of the tariffs that they have on us,

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<v Speaker 3>just about like fifty two percent, it seems like. So

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<v Speaker 3>that means even if there's not a market for certain

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<v Speaker 3>things here that we could make, there might be a

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<v Speaker 3>market for them elsewhere, but it's not even cost effective

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<v Speaker 3>to send them out. So that's problematic. I think people

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<v Speaker 3>also just figured in reality, like a lot of poys

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<v Speaker 3>looked at it, well, Okay, who cares. If everything gets

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<v Speaker 3>cheaper and you make a little bit less money, you'll

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<v Speaker 3>be able to afford it because it's all so much cheaper.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the ultimate like frame of reference for

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<v Speaker 3>people in their understanding of consumer globalism.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they not see that you don't have money, so

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<v Speaker 1>these need to be cheaper, Like how could they miss

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<v Speaker 1>that obvious fact?

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<v Speaker 3>Now they part of that like as a car guard peak.

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<v Speaker 1>Like one thing you hear about I've always heard over

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<v Speaker 1>the last forty years, right this is now we're going

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<v Speaker 1>back to my teenage years, right is I've always heard like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, this stuff made in China, Like that's a

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<v Speaker 1>reference of bad quality. Sure like historically, now I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's being prejudiced, but historically I've read for

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<v Speaker 1>companies that was true. Yeah, I get it because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to just say that, but I understand why

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<v Speaker 1>it's that way. So like if prime example, shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to Airflow Research. Airfrs are like my favorite cylinder heads

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to drag racing cars. They just got

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<v Speaker 1>a free commercial. It's like one of the best heads ever,

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<v Speaker 1>cetldar heads. If you want to make your car make

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<v Speaker 1>more power, AFFR Airflow Research best cetlder heads and racing

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<v Speaker 1>as far as GM stuff for stuff, just really great company.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a head now, right that's like a head

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<v Speaker 1>for an LS motor, a cylinder head, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a it's like cheap. It's like twelve hundred dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>set for like a five to three. Well, five to

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<v Speaker 1>three is like the equivalent of a modern three twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>But the new motors and chevrolets, they you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't title them in cubic inch anymore. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>set of heads for those that run twelve hundred. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like, by far the cheapest head Airflow Research

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<v Speaker 1>ever had. And I'm asking a buddy of minds. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a really good friend who actually designed the

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<v Speaker 1>Airflow Research heads, which is crazy, Like, this is how

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<v Speaker 1>long I've been in the racing. This is how much

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<v Speaker 1>I'm into it. A buddy of minds who helped me

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<v Speaker 1>do my head race card, right, is actually the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who designed the heads for Airflow Research. And he said,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, but why these head so cheap? I asked him.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, it's my lowrider for my five three.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, man, glasses, those heads are junk. Like what

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<v Speaker 1>you mean they junk? He's like, man, their heads made

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<v Speaker 1>in China. I'm like, damn, airflow heads fucking made in China.

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<v Speaker 1>This is fucking crazy. He's like, all the airflow heads

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<v Speaker 1>are made in China. Right, he said. The difference is

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<v Speaker 1>they would get the cast done in China and then

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<v Speaker 1>they would ship them here and then do the actual

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<v Speaker 1>detailed labor to get the quality that we expect from

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<v Speaker 1>airflow research. And I heard the other day in like

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<v Speaker 1>the person's market, right in the bag market for women's purses,

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So right now, it's almost like the organic thing. You

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<v Speaker 1>could say made in America. If you assemble it in America.

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<v Speaker 1>That means the actual material could be cast in China

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<v Speaker 1>or made in China, as long as you assemble part

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<v Speaker 1>of it in America, a specific part of it in America.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>Beef yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So it becomes legal terms versus what the actual term means.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you cut the beef in the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>it can be USDA beef. The cow didn't have to

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<v Speaker 3>be from here, not that it probably matters all that

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<v Speaker 3>much where the hell cow's eating grass, but there are

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<v Speaker 3>certain standards, yeah, as to the grass and the environment

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<v Speaker 3>and all the rest, and it matters for us rancher.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like all of this stuff that I'm figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out is now making Trump look a lot less crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Like, imagine being on the other end of

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<v Speaker 1>that right, and taking advantage of everything. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>and you have enough information to take advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're like, man, I'm telling you, y'all think this

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<v Speaker 1>is cool, but look at this. This is bullshit. This

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<v Speaker 1>is this, this is that, And that's been his thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the first debate he had with Hillary Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>a viral clip where he was saying, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody accused him of like paying off politicians or something

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<v Speaker 3>when he was in you know, developing buildings or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And he says, yeah, because otherwise nothing could ever get done.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, you have to do that, otherwise you're never

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<v Speaker 3>going to get a permit. I had to contribute to

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<v Speaker 3>Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign. That's why she came to my

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<v Speaker 3>kid's wedding. Something along those lines. And it's that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>been his kind of mo o and that is very true,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think a lot of the issues now are

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<v Speaker 3>The name of this book that I read last year

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<v Speaker 3>was a great book. Guilder's latest book called Life After Capitalism.

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<v Speaker 3>We are in a post like people like to people

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<v Speaker 3>I think think getting money means capitalism. We are in

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<v Speaker 3>a very post capitalist global economy. The regulations are so

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<v Speaker 3>great on so many levels, not only like what you

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<v Speaker 3>can and can't do, but financially how you can and

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<v Speaker 3>can borrow international trade tariff deals where you have to

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<v Speaker 3>do certain things certain way all the time. It's there's

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<v Speaker 3>not a robust free market where you can just have

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<v Speaker 3>the drive, have the idea, raise some money and go.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not. That's not the world we live in right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, that shit just blowing me away, Like some shit

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<v Speaker 1>could be made in China. It's cast in China, but

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<v Speaker 1>because they'll work on it here, they could say this

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<v Speaker 1>is made in America.

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<v Speaker 4>Mhm.

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<v Speaker 1>Or like I was telling King about organic, like organic

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<v Speaker 1>is more of a legal term than actually what you

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<v Speaker 1>would think that means. It goes back to that same

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<v Speaker 1>letter in spirit of the law, like the spirit of

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<v Speaker 1>organic what makes you think is grown naturally? But that

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<v Speaker 1>may not be the letter of what organic means or

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<v Speaker 1>USDA means, or made in America means.

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<v Speaker 4>Not very true, That's all I was just reading just

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<v Speaker 4>now where USDA got a certification program that they do

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<v Speaker 4>with other countries for organic fruits and vegetables. It's got

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<v Speaker 4>to meet their certain requirements. In other companies in USD

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<v Speaker 4>would live them say it's made in US.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gotcha?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>And I.

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<v Speaker 3>Organic?

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<v Speaker 4>Is there's some.

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<v Speaker 3>Slippery language I think in all the organic laws. To

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<v Speaker 3>a guy talk about that, who's one of the big

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<v Speaker 3>grower is it one of the heads of the big

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<v Speaker 3>grower associates, like you know, they have co ops in

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<v Speaker 3>the Central Valley in California, and saying like some of

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<v Speaker 3>you organic, you might like there's a period of time

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<v Speaker 3>like any pesticide made before or after whatever can't be organic.

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<v Speaker 3>So people use these old archaic ways to kill bugs

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<v Speaker 3>that are actually like less healthy than some of the

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<v Speaker 3>modern pesticides because you know, to a loophole in this

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<v Speaker 3>organic certification process, people still don't want bugs.

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<v Speaker 1>So how could polit seems to be so good that

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<v Speaker 1>people miss something that seems so obvious to me? Right, Pete,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably the most racist person you know, top of ten,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta be up there. I'm hello racist, But how

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<v Speaker 1>can I see the obviousness of what the fuck this

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<v Speaker 1>motherfuck or people talking about in general? Like how can

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<v Speaker 1>I it be that obvious to me but to everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else who's supposed to be less races or not into politics,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't get that shit. You know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it. I don't understand how. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks pretty obvious to me. Is it possible? It

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<v Speaker 1>is different, But you would think that what's happening makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, well you need to bring productivity back

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<v Speaker 1>to America. Yeah, it may not look like it looked

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<v Speaker 1>in the sixties technology, right, but you still have more

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<v Speaker 1>jobs here that would help more people here so they

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<v Speaker 1>could have more money here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And look, anytime something bad has happened, even small bad,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of protected from ever happening again, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And like one thing I've noticed it it's harder to

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<v Speaker 3>afford a house. Will create some sort of federal program

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<v Speaker 3>where you can put three percent down at whatever rate,

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<v Speaker 3>and that drives up the price of the house because

0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:02.600
<v Speaker 3>you don't have to have very much money down to

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<v Speaker 3>get the house, so you're making less of money. The

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<v Speaker 3>house is more expensive. So you're paying off the house

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<v Speaker 3>for yees thirty years, and you have a raiser with

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<v Speaker 3>you know, cost of living margin for thirty years, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're dependent now on your stock portfolio to support you

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<v Speaker 3>for the rest of your life. And you're just transit.

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<v Speaker 3>People are just walking through like a turnstile at a

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<v Speaker 3>department store going from mortgage to reverse mortgage, because when

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<v Speaker 3>it's talking to you to retire, you got to take

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<v Speaker 3>all the money out of that house, reverse mortgage it out,

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<v Speaker 3>and live off your four o one k because the

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<v Speaker 3>stocks in it all went up seven percent over the

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<v Speaker 3>course of the previous two decades because they cut costs

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<v Speaker 3>to increase you know, their bottom line margins and drive

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<v Speaker 3>up the price of stock. So that that's most Americans,

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<v Speaker 3>like the high part of the Bell curve is mortgage

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<v Speaker 3>four oh one k extremely dependent on the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>basically the index aggregate performances of Wall Street and huge companies.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's true with like especially like government employees with

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<v Speaker 3>huge pensions. They're very buoyed to the market. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of like, like I know, Black Rock has

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<v Speaker 3>trillions of dollars, like trillions and trillions of dollars in

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<v Speaker 3>their of their portfolio of assets in management that are

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:47.120
<v Speaker 3>government employee pension funds. So it's just borrow money now,

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<v Speaker 3>drive the prices of equities, tie your retirement and your

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<v Speaker 3>net worth into these equities, deal with it later, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, will inflate the dollar, will increase the debt

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<v Speaker 3>will do all these various things, will offshore jobs, you'll

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<v Speaker 3>make relatively less money, things will cost relatively more, and

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<v Speaker 3>in the back end you'll be fine and your kids

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<v Speaker 3>will have your same problem a little worse.

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<v Speaker 4>But go on, hey, Pete, how does that affect the

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<v Speaker 4>poor people that's not buying into pensions at work and

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<v Speaker 4>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Not well, I mean, I guess the argue would say,

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<v Speaker 3>like if you were really poor and didn't have a

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<v Speaker 3>job to pay you very much money before, you probably

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have a job pay you much money now. Not

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<v Speaker 3>a huge change, but for there is a significant check

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 3>of people who went from being an auto workers' union

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<v Speaker 3>to being a part time waiter now at two diners

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that. You know, and that's a that

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<v Speaker 3>is a real number. That is a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is a beating of a lifestyle change.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you reverse that?

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of like what they're trying to do now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you can try to ensure more production, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we even outsourced a lot of production of

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<v Speaker 3>military hardware, which that's governing money. There's no reason that

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<v Speaker 3>should be cent overseas. No, we have contracts with India

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. I mean, just from a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>civil responsibility standpoint, if you're gonna take tax dollars to

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<v Speaker 3>manufacture thing, you should at least manufactured here. Fuck, it

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<v Speaker 3>seemed like a real.

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<v Speaker 1>High bar, and that's what's driving me crazy. Like I'm okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm starting to understand is there's my belief

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<v Speaker 1>is so I am I genuinely feel not could be

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously I need to do more research. I'm I'm a socialist, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also believe in humans doing right by humans.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think if the government is forced to do

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<v Speaker 1>right by humans, then that comes a communist society. Does

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense? Is that is that? I'm sure it's

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>more difference, but like people like Hershey huh said, it's

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 1>probably less difference. Okay, but like people like Milton Hershey right,

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:26.400
<v Speaker 1>where like you have a good idea, you create town, right,

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you you bring people in, you take care of people future,

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 1>and you're wealthy and developing human life, you know, human lives,

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>human experience, cultivating human experiences, not just your customer, but

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>even the people that for you, right, which is why

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>we have Hershey's right. This is this great chocolate company

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know not that I but really the greatest

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>part of this legacy to me, it's Hershey, Pennsylvania, right

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>where you created a town where you you you got

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>human beings into careers, You built schools, You built an

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 1>opportunity for other you men who are not in your

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>position or you know, to be able to take care

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>of their families. That's to me like what wealthy means, right,

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a well of things you build in humans. So

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>it's weird when like people keep trying to get me

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to adjust my mind state of like this personal independence, like, oh,

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, you just live aspirationally. You know, the way

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to help black people is to show them you could

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 1>do it and then they'll figure out they could do it.

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, that's dumb as fuck, you know what

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:35.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like I'm from a gang. Bro Like, y'all

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>know I'm from a gang. Everybody listens, No siblings knows

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>that from a gang. But yeah, right, So I remember

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>talking to my homies and looking at their opportunities and

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>how they saw the world. My homeboy, Moto rest Is Soul,

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>dropped out in like fifth or sixth grade. His mom,

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, rest in Peaces. Soone his mom was on

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, she got she caught the worst of the

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>crack erar right, Pops, I don't know, because Pops, I

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>never met him. You know, I've been knowing Moto since

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>he was probably seven or eight, right, But I just

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>looked at our experiences. Right, my mother and father broke up.

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>But my mother, my dad, and my stepmom, you feel me,

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>they had a solid home. Neither one of them, you know,

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>fell victim to the crack air. My mother, you know,

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 1>had her own home and content. She didn't fall victim

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to the crack air. So I look at my foundation

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and things to keep me going, staying in school, and

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>obviously my mom goes to the FEDS right when I'm

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>a teenager. My father got a lot of kids. He's

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>trying to take care of the house, you know. And

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>it was just a small moment of time that I

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>was able to slip off end of selling drugs, which

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of created my level of street life. And I

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>look at his life and realized to myself, like, yo,

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>he never had a chance. So I don't care how

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>successful I How could I help him? Aspirationally, Like if

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I can't reach out, like shout out to my homeboy Snoopy,

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>my homeway Junior Junior right now, got about ten years

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>in prison, one of my closest homeboys. He my young homeboy,

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and we're talking. We're texting every day.

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>They have a tablet in there. He's using a tablet

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, man, what you're gonna do when you

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 1>come home? He's like, man, I don't know. Now. Mayu

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Junior is working on forty. He not quite forty, but

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>he's working on forty. To me, that's the Milton Hershey thing,

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>like what drives me to get better at what we do?

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Right king in his music industry and trying to redefind

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>it is the first time my homeboy. Look, Jay came on.

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Jerome came on from prison after doing fifteen years. He's

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>back in prison now. But Jerome aka scaff Right Scavenger,

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Look Jay, he comes home and he needs a career.

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't need a job. He needs a career to

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>keep him busy, to keep him into things. Because again

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>he was raised by his grandparents. You know, it's a

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>separation of time. It's harder for grandparents to stay on kids,

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>like it's hard for my mom and dad had to

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 1>stay on their grandkids. You know, that's why you know

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>my sister Edon is so important that she got to

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>stay on them. So nothing I did aspirationally helps scab

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.959
<v Speaker 1>or look, you know, drown. Nothing I can do aspirationally

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>is going to help Moto rest is soul. Nothing. In

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>real time, it didn't matter how Sobro was. It didn't

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>matter if I was making money, It didn't matter none

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff, because his problems was his problems. The

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.479
<v Speaker 1>only thing that could have helped him if I had

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>a fucking factory and they could say, hey man, you

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>know at this time, hey Moto, I can give you

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>sixty thousand dollars a year at a time in watch,

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you can get the house and watch for ninety thousand dollars. Right,

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a seven hundred dollars mortgage payment at that time. Right,

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>he could have had five thousand dollars a month before taxes,

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe forty one hundred or thirty nine hundred at of

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the taxes, we could have bought a house and moved

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>on with his life. Same thing for little Jay Junior

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>right now, Junior, who's like I said, he's like, I

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know what I'm gonna do, right, because he dedicated

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>so much much time. And that is what being a

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>great human is all about. It's not about me personally

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>going out making a bunch of money that I don't need.

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 1>It means how you take care of other humans. Same

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.959
<v Speaker 1>conversation that we've had often, right, being humane is caring

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>for other humans. And these are three certain homies. They

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>all three different. Junior situation is different than Little J situation,

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>lit J Jeronskaff his situation was different than Moto situation.

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>But aspirational don't help shit nothing, And I gotta figure

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>it out because he's probably three years in counting. Feel

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>me like on what to do. People can't understand why

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>you feel tasked by that. That's what hip hop or

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>gangbang it really is. It's the burden of humans. That's

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>what being a good human is. It's the burden of humans.

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>So when I watch America or you know, it empowers

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the elite to say, hey, you know, make your money

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>how you want. We want to open up a global economy,

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and you trade on you trade in people having to

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>be good to who lives next door to them for

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>their own personal aspiration of world conquests and world conquests

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and economics and they could just go to China and

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of some other people when you just outlawed

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the same thing in this country. It just seems counterproductive,

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>if that, If that makes sense, forgive me for that.

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Hella not true.

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 3>It's a past the buck kind of approach.

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Just passing the buck. Huh.

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I don't know. China's economy is not the

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 3>most transparent, so I really don't know as much about

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 3>it as i'd want to to make the assessments that

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 3>I want to make. Like, I know, they have the

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 3>weaker thing going on, and that's pretty brutal. Their entire

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 3>manufacturing economy is not the weakers and they have pulled

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people out of I mean, that was

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 3>a poor, poor, poor country. They were too poor to

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 3>feed their people in the fifties, Like they lost eighty

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:23.879
<v Speaker 3>million people, Like they were poor. So they've they've had

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 3>some growth trajectory, but still, I mean, like I think

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 3>they're a little over twenty trillion as a GDP for

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.319
<v Speaker 3>their country. Their population is a little old, that's about

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 3>one point what three or four trillion, So I think they're.

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Like I got they don't have a treating people here.

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, billion I'm sorry, trillions and billions in the field.

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Because because I got to stay up moment, you fucking mynds,

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you changed that.

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 3>They had a lot of kids.

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>If you think about all of those countries, uh, China, India,

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>it's those are really poor or places, but a lot

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of them are lifting the country out of those type

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of devastations through industry. True, yet we sold our industry out, like,

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>except the America is okay. So there's one part of America, right,

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the elite benefiting economically, and then the regular everyday American. Right,

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>they're like just getting a cheaply made, cheaply priced product. Yeah,

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I was telling King, we made we made a

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>deal for this merch piece that we were about to

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 1>drop for the single, right for the single that's about

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>to come out in a couple of weeks, and like

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>my whole thing, Like I told King, Like, the original

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 1>price of this jacket was like one hundred dollars, right,

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:45.839
<v Speaker 1>that was the price because I thought we was gonna

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>be in a jacket forty fifty dollars, right, We end

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 1>up probably be in a jacket a little less than

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>forty dollars. So I'm like, we don't need to make

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>more fifty dollars, so we're gonna pass the savings. You know,

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna pass the savings onto the customer. That's I

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.760
<v Speaker 1>believe in it. I didn't look at it like, Okay,

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>well we might be in the jacket now instead of

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.320
<v Speaker 1>forty and fifty bugs. We might be in a jacket's

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 1>thirty dollars, but now we're gonna make seventy dollars. It's like, no,

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>we could let the price of the jacket now to

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.760
<v Speaker 1>seventy five or eighty five dollars.

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:18.919
<v Speaker 3>Sure, And typically, I mean usually that's how things work.

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like retail has what about a like a

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 3>three x markup. It's kind of industry standard, but it's

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 3>very competitive. So if you have something that's like if

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 3>somebody's ties specific, like the glasses of Alone brand, you're

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 3>not price competing against somebody else's glasses of Alone brand,

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. So it's a different consideration.

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I know what you mean. Like one thing's interesting,

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 3>like some you talk about like India and China and whatnot.

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Before a lot of this transition was we're gonna I

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 3>think a lot of people believed it's fine, we'll just

0:36:53.680 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 3>move into more of a of an information economy. Yeah,

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:03.720
<v Speaker 3>we'll even be on service there, like a technology based economy.

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Remember I think it was Hillary Clinton kind of got

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 3>a little razz a little bit. This might have been

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 3>eight in the primary against Obama. I can't remember memories

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.839
<v Speaker 3>I could, But the whole learn to code thing, Yeah,

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna, yeah, we're gonna shut down coal plants and

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 3>you'll lose all your jobs, but you'll learn the code.

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Which if you said to somebody who's forty five years

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.439
<v Speaker 3>old and we're gonna coal mine for twenty years, that's

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 3>just unbelievable. But there was a surge in programmers and

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 3>demand on shore in the United States, and they were

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 3>paying a lot of money. And how do we respond

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 3>to that by bringing in tens of thousands of H

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 3>one B visas from India to come and bring that

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 3>price right the fuck back down and take the jobs.

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>But and then it's also weird, like you'll call a

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>company bro and you'll ask to speak to an operator,

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and you could tell the it's somewhere cheap.

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.360
<v Speaker 3>But they always have American names and lie about it.

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 3>That's that's really finny Otho. This is Gerald. But they'll

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 3>have like their access. They'll say like the most like

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 3>like America, not like l Pool. Your name is not Gerald,

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it's Danesh. Come on, you're on Dennis Danesh. I

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 3>don't care. I just want to know.

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>It's just so clear that this country is said, you

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>know what's funny, shout out to my old g homies. Right. Look, again,

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I hear a lot of rumors about game mag and

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I always try to clear it that for people with

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 1>everybody's being then asshole and they think they know even

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>though I'm a gang member, I'm like a real gang member.

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm a real gang member that socialized with a lot

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>of gang members to this day. For me again, so

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:53.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like I don't think people understand, like, you know,

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you can go eat breakfast with gang members, you know

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. You play chess, you know, people build cars.

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's not just stealing pursons or murdering people. It's very

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:08.359
<v Speaker 1>much people that grew up in their community. And I

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>just was thinking to myself, like, man, my homies had

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>a great idea with the economy when it came to hustling.

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:19.479
<v Speaker 1>You bought your product right from one of your older

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>homies and then you sold it right there. The dollar

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>recycled in the seven two or three times before it left.

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>That's why our economy was so great. And it didn't

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>start to fall the power until people started going around

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the older homies trying to buy from somebody else to

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 1>save some money, when they didn't realize this is what

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 1>powers the economy. There was a time bro seventh Street

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 1>crypt might have one hundred hundred and fifty people. That

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>was a time that was thirty low riders. Like you

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.439
<v Speaker 1>know there's big sixties at that time didn't have thirty

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>low riders. It's a thousand of the motherfuckers six old

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>did not have thirty low riders. We had low riders.

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>That's how great our economy did. That's why my respect

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 1>from my older homie Pluck is so grand. He was

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>actually a really great kind of president of the community.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>That don't mean nothing because he had homies that had

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>as much power, but he did a better job of

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:18.399
<v Speaker 1>running it that way. And I realized why, like, yeah,

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.319
<v Speaker 1>I could go get this gallon of shrine from this

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>dude from Grave Street for seventy five hundred, and Pluck

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>is gonna charge me eighty five hundred. But guess what,

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>that extra thousand stay right on the seven. He gonna

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.919
<v Speaker 1>create other opportunities for other homies who not hustling. He'll

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:36.240
<v Speaker 1>put money on other homies books. It made sense. Why

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>don't Americans get the same thought? Because it shit kills me?

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Because anymore, because because we'll buy anything. It would be

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 3>the equivalent to if the consumers of the products from

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:55.320
<v Speaker 3>the seven just didn't give a shit, if shut stuff

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 3>was water down and crappy and just bought it from

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 3>the other side of croosis, just said, fuck it, five

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 3>dollars cheaper over there it's shitty. Who cares. We'll just

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 3>buy a shitty shit and lots of it.

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 4>But where'd that mentality come from?

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Though?

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 4>Like would build that mentality, you know in the years

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 4>where you're willing to buy you know, subpart ship from

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 4>somewhere else.

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 3>I think people, if something is so good and it's

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:37.800
<v Speaker 3>expensive and you can't afford it, that's like it internally troubling,

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, that's a hard pill to swallow.

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.879
<v Speaker 3>Someone else has a thing it's really nice. I'd love

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 3>to have that thing. I just can't get it.

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 4>So you can buy the next best team.

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 3>So you'd buy the second best thing. Yeah okay, and

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 3>there's always going to be more people than they can

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 3>afford the second best thing than the best thing. And

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 3>then before you know what, the people who got the

0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 3>best thing or got the money for the best thing,

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 3>you know something, And I think that's fine, now I

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 3>got it. Let's get that. I'll save the money. And

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 3>then the guy makes the nicest thing goes out of.

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:11.919
<v Speaker 4>Business because then the trend thing kicks in.

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like, look at the American car. Look at how

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 3>great the American sedan was in nineteen sixty five and

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 3>how shitty the American sedan was in nineteen eighty five

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 3>after the camera came and changed the market.

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because when you go to Germany, bro,

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody has a bands because you can't like it. It's

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:38.280
<v Speaker 1>like a cheap car.

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 3>You can't sell anything except German cars in Germany. I mean,

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 3>you couldn't.

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Any American cars.

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 3>You're right, Yeah, they've been talking about that. It's a

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:54.800
<v Speaker 3>triple digit tariff on US autobiles to Germany.

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.919
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's why when you go to Japan, the only

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>people who have American cars are low riders. They're paying

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the luxury tax to have it.

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or they're buying them really really cheap and redoing

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 3>them so that the teriff doesn't matter, or they're buying I.

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Don't know, they they're buying it from the streets, so they.

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, as I said, it's different when it's private party

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 3>than than yeah, business.

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.799
<v Speaker 1>But you don't see American cars in Japan. I didn't

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 1>see American cars.

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Japan has a has a two hundred plus I

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 3>think percent tariff on American cars very high.

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 1>But like that's crazy, But so how do so is

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the freedom the prisoner at that point that we think

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>is freedom in is? Like how does that make sense?

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Like like I could, like I want to ask my dad,

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.720
<v Speaker 1>like what it was like for him. My dad probably

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:51.280
<v Speaker 1>got his driver license in sixty five, maybe even sixty.

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>He would have been fifteen and sixty two, so sixty

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 1>three he was sixteen. I wonder how many import cars

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 1>were on the road in nineteen sixty.

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Three, leadership. I don't even think compared to like luxury

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 3>American sedans. I don't even think Mercedes were that nice

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 3>at that time. It pretty much would have been just Rolls,

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 3>Royce Bentley and then Ferrari and Porsche.

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>But like now you don't. Even if you walk outside

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>your house and you walk on your street and you count,

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>you're going to count less domestic cars right far.

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 4>Shit, the domestic cars are being built overseas with just

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 4>American tag on it.

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they put the windshield on here and call it

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:49.399
<v Speaker 3>an American car.

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:52.399
<v Speaker 4>You look at the engine parts and stuff they say

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 4>made from always over there.

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Sure, and even a lot of the assembly is done

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 3>in Mexico.

0:44:58.080 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's crazy.

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 1>They just cut on the doors here, but it's made

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 1>in America because that's of America.

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.760
<v Speaker 4>A lot of these big countries now are from people

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 4>in Japan and China that we think of American companies

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 4>are no longer even American companies no more. Your parent

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:18.879
<v Speaker 4>companies is in Japan and other countries and stuff like that.

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.240
<v Speaker 3>Hello Kentucky Fried Chicken.

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just say owned by young brands out of Japan.

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 4>You know, a lot of these places that people think

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 4>of American tradition now hasn't been for years. Sure, so

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 4>they're not trying to put the money back in America

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 4>if you look at it, If you look at it

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:41.839
<v Speaker 4>that way, they're not worried about the American economy in

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 4>that sense. Yeah, they're just using it so they don't

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 4>care what they do. Just burn it up and they gone, Yeah.

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot of stuff that could reasonably

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 3>be Like it feels like a cell phone assembly. People

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 3>don't want to sit there and you know, micro assemble

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:58.359
<v Speaker 3>circuit boards all damn day. Fine, we could sure shit

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 3>make gorilla glass.

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 4>You got a prisoner's peak that would do that with

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 4>cell phones all day.

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:07.920
<v Speaker 3>You aren't allowed to have cell phones in prison, I thought.

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:10.439
<v Speaker 4>I mean, but no, they got you know, you could

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 4>build things in prison. They got factories that you could

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 4>build stuff in prison. Now security may be up, but

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 4>you could build things. Prisoners is building funditure and stuff.

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 4>Will they take all those programs out of the prisons

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 4>then well, who else got a building? Now they send

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:27.920
<v Speaker 4>it out of the country. Cheap is cheap as the prisoner.

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, they take it from a cheap prisoner building

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 4>it by saying it's in humane and all this crazy

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 4>stuff they say in another kind.

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you think in your opinion that if the

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 3>cost benefit analysis are consideration, so to speak, for being

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 3>in prison as an inmate, that the opportunity to acquire

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 3>a marketable skill but having to actually do work while

0:46:58.080 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 3>you're in there. Is that a good trade off in

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:01.359
<v Speaker 3>your or you think that it's a shitty trade off

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 3>when you're in there, so trade off.

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 4>They don't work to get a skill in prison, for sure, Okay,

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, the question is the opportunity once they get out.

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 3>So who the fuck was advocating against that for all

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:15.840
<v Speaker 3>those years and saying it's inhumane to have them in

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.400
<v Speaker 3>there working. It's just a bunch of it's It's like,

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 3>that's like a bunch of stupid, like fictitious do gooders

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 3>who just want to like.

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 4>Well it was ap. What it was was the benefit

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.839
<v Speaker 4>of working because they exactly like if you take those

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 4>jobs from prisoners, people on the outside would get them.

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 4>But it's still the neighborhoods they sent them out of

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 4>the country.

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Gotcha, gotcha?

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Well. Also also they were saying that they were working

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:44.040
<v Speaker 1>for so cheap. It was like you're in jail, you

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>feel me so like to me, like that made the

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 1>most sense, right, It's like.

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.160
<v Speaker 3>You create internship around college.

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was about Hey, it was you know,

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean I saw I saw complaints on outside about

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 1>the pay at that time. Yeah, you know what I'm

0:47:58.239 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 1>saying now.

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying, those type of thing titious do gooders.

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm saying think about it, though, King, Like,

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you learn a trade in jail, you're able to come

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 1>out and get a career. Wouldn't that be kind of

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 1>close to rehabilitation.

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, what reality is if I wanted to go

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 3>to a trade school and not get paid to do work,

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 3>I would be paying.

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 4>Then in Washington State, I was like one of the

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:27.360
<v Speaker 4>last part of rehabilitation where they let us go to

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.880
<v Speaker 4>school and everything, college and everything. And I was the

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 4>last year where the citizens like, you're paying for their

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 4>school and you're giving them pail grants, you're doing all

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:38.040
<v Speaker 4>that for them in prison. And that's where they cut

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 4>the rehabilitation off.

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 3>At gotcha, what year was that about?

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh Jesus gonna tell my age. Bout nineteen two thousand

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 4>around there, ninety eight two thousand, your age. But that's

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 4>about the time period where they started talking about not

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 4>rehabilitation because they're wasting all this money. They're supposed to

0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:59.000
<v Speaker 4>be punishment. It's supposed to be punishment, you know. So

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 4>when he was getting jobs, it was getting the education

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 4>and rehabilitation. When we came out. The studuma now was

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:09.879
<v Speaker 4>you're at felon. Yeah, so it didn't matter what you

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:13.560
<v Speaker 4>did inside prison. The chances of getting a good job

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 4>when you got out was neil. It's different nowadays, but

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 4>back in the days when the transition from rehabilitation to punishment,

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 4>it didn't offer nobody a chance when they got out.

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that funny that it's harder now when there's no

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 1>rich Like now they don't matter, but now they're not

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna teach you nothing, you know what I mean? People

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 1>go to jail, like my homeboy going to jail for years,

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 1>and like he's not going to have an opportunity to

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 1>learn a livable ways trade where he can make a living.

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's putiful, But we don't worry about that because

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 4>we were about them sending people out of here to

0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 4>other prisons. That's what trists me out.

0:49:53.760 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what's funny, man, The thing that this country

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:03.439
<v Speaker 1>was established on, they figured out a way to turn

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 1>it into what they were trying to not turn it

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:08.920
<v Speaker 1>into in the same instance, but they were able to

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:11.480
<v Speaker 1>turn it into it right here. You know what I mean?

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>With these sets of rules like the government, like your

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:19.360
<v Speaker 1>forefathers fought for this not to be a country like

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the country that they left, you know what I mean,

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:23.840
<v Speaker 1>where it was hard to change the stars, where you

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:27.240
<v Speaker 1>had to be what you were. But now they're because

0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 1>the elite are at the top, they're ruling so hard

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 1>and they want to just keep you know, their goal

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:41.560
<v Speaker 1>is to keep just financially destroying, getting money right, just going,

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 1>going going. Now they're just they're trying to import people. Right.

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:51.360
<v Speaker 1>You gotta realize, real estate in America, like California is

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:55.760
<v Speaker 1>so bad. It's mainly because people coming into this country,

0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 1>like you're competing with different families, multiple families sometimes to

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 1>get one house. So guess what, it makes it hard

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:08.920
<v Speaker 1>for you to change your stars because now everything becomes

0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 1>this ridiculous who will work for the cheapest and who

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:16.319
<v Speaker 1>will pay the most, right, So you know who's going

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 1>to pay the cheapest, right, who's who don't mind getting

0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:21.839
<v Speaker 1>paid the less the least, right, and then who will

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:24.920
<v Speaker 1>pay the most of this house? So they turned it

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:27.440
<v Speaker 1>into the actual country they were running away from when

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:29.640
<v Speaker 1>they came here in the first place. They're making it

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 1>to where now is. That's why the middle class is

0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:37.640
<v Speaker 1>being like obliviated, like it's over because obliterate, excuse me,

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:43.400
<v Speaker 1>is over because it's like you're what's like the broke

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and wealthy. That's what's happening.

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:50.400
<v Speaker 3>And that's yeah, and that's Europe, which is a I've

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:53.360
<v Speaker 3>referred to Europe as a bastion of mediocrity, maybe not

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:58.759
<v Speaker 3>on here, but many times. And there isn't a lot

0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 3>of vertical mobility. And again, disruptors come from the middle class.

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 3>They have enough know how, enough understanding, enough resources, and

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 3>they have the hunger. I mean, it's not always the

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 3>rich guy's kid who redefines some industry.

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Rarely is it the rich guy's kid.

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:26.240
<v Speaker 3>It's it's not a guy who lives thirty minutes away.

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's tougher for a poor person because they don't

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:31.800
<v Speaker 1>believe they could do it. So it's when you it's

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 1>so what happens is it's that that factory worker's kid

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:39.320
<v Speaker 1>who goes on to college, right, that that factory worker

0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 1>in fifties and sixties who sacrifice their own dreams to

0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:44.640
<v Speaker 1>take care of their family, get their kid through college.

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 1>That kid is the guy that's changed, that changed America.

0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 3>It's describes Steve Jobs, a guy stand's parents' house was

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 3>a modest looking house in the Bay Area. It wasn't

0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:59.560
<v Speaker 3>on the water, it was in the valley. And he

0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 3>started the company his parents' garage.

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:06.239
<v Speaker 4>So is so is he hating what his parents do

0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 4>looking down like his parents worked in that factory. Now

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 4>he's looking down at that as like, I don't want

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 4>to be like my parents working in the factory.

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 1>That it is just a hunger to exceed.

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:20.960
<v Speaker 3>And I think there's also a lot of it is.

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:28.240
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if it's always Apple's competing against Google,

0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:33.319
<v Speaker 3>and these are hyper performers, like hyper achievers, so they're

0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 3>extremely competitive. They're really good at what they do. These

0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:39.360
<v Speaker 3>aren't everyday people. There's why there's only a couple hundred

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:43.880
<v Speaker 3>of them. But I'm not positive if it's an obsession

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:48.440
<v Speaker 3>to be the best in competing against the other company

0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:53.279
<v Speaker 3>and ramifications be damned, or if it's and it does

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 3>look like this in a lot of ways. You get

0:53:55.239 --> 0:54:01.080
<v Speaker 3>a lot of strategic corporate partnerships or whatever I've said. Now, California,

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:03.120
<v Speaker 3>in my life, I would define it as a barrier

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:06.640
<v Speaker 3>of entry. Economy. Yeah, a bunch of in a lot

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 3>of money. It's not a lot of great ideas. I

0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:11.760
<v Speaker 3>mean there's a handful of great ideas in one little spot.

0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Other than that, there's not a ton of great ideas happening.

0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 3>It's just I made a bunch of money. I want

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:21.400
<v Speaker 3>to secure my assets from possible loss of value.

0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:25.359
<v Speaker 4>So what was promised to people to leave to get

0:54:25.360 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 4>them out the factory to go to school or something

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 4>like that, Because we're talking about the industrial age being

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:32.399
<v Speaker 4>one of the greater times where people had the chance

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 4>to get a job, get enough paid to buy a house,

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 4>and make kids to college. So what stop people for

0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:41.640
<v Speaker 4>one to do industry and go and shut them down.

0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:43.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they close a lot of them, and then I

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 3>think they STIGMATI.

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:48.240
<v Speaker 1>It too, I see me saying. So the wealthy person

0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:51.600
<v Speaker 1>who started the industry right, realize they can get even

0:54:51.640 --> 0:54:55.520
<v Speaker 1>wealthier if they outsourced the work based off of certain loans,

0:54:55.760 --> 0:55:00.840
<v Speaker 1>certain things being brought down. Right. So before before America

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:05.360
<v Speaker 1>was incentivized to build here, Americans were incentivized to buy American,

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 1>they were incentivized, it would have been hard to import things, right.

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:16.280
<v Speaker 1>That would have been a really different challenge probably thirty forties, fifties, sixties,

0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:19.359
<v Speaker 1>That would have been a different type of task, right,

0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 1>versus so American, you know, even the wealthy American were

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:28.600
<v Speaker 1>incentivized to build here. It wasn't this concept of free

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:32.359
<v Speaker 1>pray that was so free. And when they opened it up.

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 1>You go around, obviously you see places like China, you know,

0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and again, this is why I kind of worry about

0:55:40.520 --> 0:55:42.520
<v Speaker 1>being as wealthy as I'm about, like as we're about

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:46.080
<v Speaker 1>to get, right, is when you get wealthy, it seems

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:49.479
<v Speaker 1>like you start to pray on people. Like you either

0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:51.720
<v Speaker 1>really poor and you pray on people, or you're really wealthy.

0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I always say, poor people and wealthy people are exactly alike.

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:58.799
<v Speaker 1>They're not really different at all when you really get

0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:01.480
<v Speaker 1>into it. But start to pray on people, so imagine

0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you're going to kind of write like Pete just described

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:09.000
<v Speaker 1>when they just had this this this mass hunger, you know,

0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:12.000
<v Speaker 1>deaf people dying of starvation, you know what I mean.

0:56:12.040 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 1>And you could go over here and set up businesses

0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:19.880
<v Speaker 1>where you can pay people like a recording guardist fractions

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:23.440
<v Speaker 1>on a cent for hours of work. Right, you could

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:27.040
<v Speaker 1>pay them fractions of a cent per hour to work

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:33.160
<v Speaker 1>on things because they're starving and the one barrier is

0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:36.040
<v Speaker 1>shipping it here. The tax you would have to pay

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:39.320
<v Speaker 1>getting it here. Those are the barriers. They have already

0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:43.040
<v Speaker 1>passed quality. They these people are not incentivized to become

0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, great at building this stuff. They can't even

0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't make more money in China. It's

0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:50.720
<v Speaker 1>not that type of program. They have a communist society,

0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:54.319
<v Speaker 1>they don't. It's not incentivized by that. So they just

0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 1>build things to the minimum standard.

0:56:57.560 --> 0:56:57.759
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:01.439
<v Speaker 1>But in the fifties and sixties, right, King, you could

0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:04.239
<v Speaker 1>go to China and or Indian you could see these

0:57:04.239 --> 0:57:06.880
<v Speaker 1>economies in Mexico. Mexico is a third world country, was

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to until win is it still one? Now it's passing.

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:12.160
<v Speaker 3>I would describe that as being still true now.

0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it's like you can go to places where

0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:18.880
<v Speaker 1>people don't have a ton of opportunity and hire them

0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:25.640
<v Speaker 1>ford try to. You can hire them, yeah, and imagine

0:57:25.640 --> 0:57:27.919
<v Speaker 1>what you're gonna pay them. You could teach them, King

0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 1>and pay them a fraction of what you're gonna pay

0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Americans for it. And in the in the tear flaw

0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:39.120
<v Speaker 1>that you had to import, right, that shit was it

0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 1>was nothing void. You were almost incentivized to go out

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and take advantage of other people and then seem like

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:48.520
<v Speaker 1>they're blessing. It's like if somebody is thirsty, right, Like

0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you go to somewhere where somebody's dying of thirst and

0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you piss in their mouth, You still a hero.

0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's camping on a broken bitch.

0:57:58.800 --> 0:58:02.800
<v Speaker 1>The hero. Dirty water in the desert probably tastes like Fiji.

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:07.000
<v Speaker 4>It was all the broke bits upfeat broken.

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, you find some broken, abused, cast out bitch

0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:12.520
<v Speaker 3>for it the work. You got a nicer place to

0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:13.000
<v Speaker 3>stay now.

0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:17.640
<v Speaker 1>But you could always catch yourself on the back publicly

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 1>for that. Yeah, and people like only to a mind

0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 1>like mine, you look like a hero.

0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:24.280
<v Speaker 4>But that was the leak that did that. What about

0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:26.160
<v Speaker 4>the poor people that can't see that? How do you

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 4>get them to see this?

0:58:28.200 --> 0:58:30.320
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have anything to do with it. They just

0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>came to the factories one day and the factories were

0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:32.880
<v Speaker 1>shut down.

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 3>And part of it also like just to be like

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 3>well rounded on the on the math you started getting

0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:44.920
<v Speaker 3>and like you know how you see it now with

0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:49.320
<v Speaker 3>like government pensions like like the California teachers, like cowpers

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:51.920
<v Speaker 3>pension stuff and the way that that's straining the budget.

0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 3>So you get a pension contract, let's say it's ten years,

0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:00.680
<v Speaker 3>and then it contracts up, so the union has to

0:59:00.720 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 3>show up for the employees and they got to raise

0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:08.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, the shit, or we're gonna strike or whatever else. Well,

0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:10.680
<v Speaker 3>it becomes a lot easier to play kick the can

0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:12.400
<v Speaker 3>down the road by saying we're gonna give you a

0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:15.880
<v Speaker 3>three percent raise, but we're gonna increase your pension benefits

0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:20.400
<v Speaker 3>by whatever, or your healthcare benefits in retirement by whatever.

0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:25.040
<v Speaker 3>So it's gonna be expensive later but cheaper now, but

0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:27.520
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna give you these these benefits. Well, when later

0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:32.640
<v Speaker 3>shows up, you have this ballooning of your cost of

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:35.680
<v Speaker 3>labor because some of it's not even active labor by

0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 3>that point in time. So now it's not like the government.

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:42.120
<v Speaker 3>The government can borrow money differently, it can prove it's

0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:46.040
<v Speaker 3>a whole different party for the public sector. But a

0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:48.880
<v Speaker 3>lot of that does happen. I mean, like I remember before,

0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:54.000
<v Speaker 3>I remember they had a when they did the GM bailout.

0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:59.040
<v Speaker 3>I think the real cost for GM per line worker

0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:01.720
<v Speaker 3>was something like ninety dollars an hour. Now they weren't

1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:06.320
<v Speaker 3>seeing the ninety dollars, but the cost their labor budget

1:00:06.400 --> 1:00:10.680
<v Speaker 3>divided by line workers actually working employed at the time

1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:15.680
<v Speaker 3>was ninety dollars an hour. That's an awful lot for

1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Schetty Cruz.

1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:27.720
<v Speaker 4>What was they actually seeing when they wasn't seeing the ninety.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, depend on their contract to go back

1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:31.320
<v Speaker 3>and do the math. But I mean, you figure you're

1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:36.920
<v Speaker 3>paying in your salary, your assurance and your pension contributions,

1:00:37.400 --> 1:00:38.800
<v Speaker 3>and then some of that also is you have to

1:00:38.880 --> 1:00:42.919
<v Speaker 3>keep up payments for retirees and they're you know, what's

1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:45.680
<v Speaker 3>due to them. So yeah, it was like we got

1:00:45.840 --> 1:00:48.040
<v Speaker 3>very expensive for some of these companies. So that's that's

1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:48.960
<v Speaker 3>also part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, shit just is irritating me. And I'm sure

1:00:56.920 --> 1:01:01.040
<v Speaker 1>somewhere along the line the American government. So I have

1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to find somebody that's in the politics and the history

1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:06.160
<v Speaker 1>of politics. I probably know the right person, but I

1:01:06.200 --> 1:01:08.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're up on business, but I know who

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<v Speaker 1>to ask. So America either had to start over taxing

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<v Speaker 1>people right in this country, like Peter saying, where certain

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<v Speaker 1>things will happen in the fifties and sixties. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what happened first. Did the American government starts saying, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to start getting more money out of you,

1:01:24.640 --> 1:01:27.720
<v Speaker 1>or did they realize it made more sense to go

1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:30.320
<v Speaker 1>out of the country and advantage the cheap labor or

1:01:30.360 --> 1:01:33.680
<v Speaker 1>did they happen somewhere at the same time simultaneously. What

1:01:33.720 --> 1:01:38.800
<v Speaker 1>do you mean then, what was the true motivation? We

1:01:38.960 --> 1:01:39.880
<v Speaker 1>have to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what's the question? The questioner?

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<v Speaker 1>So like government, Like, let's say you own a GM factory,

1:01:46.920 --> 1:01:49.360
<v Speaker 1>your General Motors. You have a GM factory in Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifties. What happens first is the American government saying, hey,

1:01:54.200 --> 1:01:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what, we need more money out of UGM

1:01:57.000 --> 1:01:59.920
<v Speaker 1>for this factory, or is it, hey, you know what,

1:02:00.600 --> 1:02:04.640
<v Speaker 1>we've been to China. There's a greater opportunity to make money.

1:02:05.320 --> 1:02:06.320
<v Speaker 1>What happened first?

1:02:06.560 --> 1:02:10.600
<v Speaker 3>What happened was like that industry taxes really have come

1:02:10.680 --> 1:02:13.520
<v Speaker 3>down since Kennedy. I mean they've they've in general, there

1:02:13.520 --> 1:02:16.000
<v Speaker 3>have been you know, ebbs and flows, but in general

1:02:16.080 --> 1:02:20.720
<v Speaker 3>they've come down a lot, as far as the minutia

1:02:20.920 --> 1:02:24.080
<v Speaker 3>of exemptions and right off and whatever else. But in

1:02:24.120 --> 1:02:27.360
<v Speaker 3>general they've come down. But the total revenue of the

1:02:27.400 --> 1:02:30.640
<v Speaker 3>government has gone up because the economy has grown. So

1:02:31.960 --> 1:02:34.600
<v Speaker 3>a million times five is better than one hundred thousand

1:02:34.720 --> 1:02:43.080
<v Speaker 3>times ten. But they had again because we don't tear

1:02:43.120 --> 1:02:49.320
<v Speaker 3>iff like other countries. So you get not just like

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<v Speaker 3>what I was saying with there's a lot of unions

1:02:53.160 --> 1:02:55.920
<v Speaker 3>out there, you know, so that and that does manipulate

1:02:56.000 --> 1:03:02.520
<v Speaker 3>the job market. And that has been like the parasite

1:03:02.560 --> 1:03:05.160
<v Speaker 3>that killed the host in a lot of cases. It's

1:03:05.200 --> 1:03:09.800
<v Speaker 3>not a fake thing that happened. That started to those

1:03:09.840 --> 1:03:11.720
<v Speaker 3>chickens streed to come home to roost right around the

1:03:11.760 --> 1:03:15.840
<v Speaker 3>same time that the Chinese, that the Japanese automobile became

1:03:15.840 --> 1:03:21.880
<v Speaker 3>introduced to the marketplace. And you can't have a seismic

1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:29.880
<v Speaker 3>reassessment of consumer retail price expectation at the same time

1:03:29.920 --> 1:03:31.960
<v Speaker 3>that you're going to have to deal with a seismic

1:03:32.080 --> 1:03:39.160
<v Speaker 3>reconsideration of labor costs upward first downward. That's that is suicide.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're saying like that, like the unions and stuff

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<v Speaker 4>helped make it easier for GM or somebody like that

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<v Speaker 4>to say well we'll go out the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Then hey, I would say made it easier, they made

1:03:48.320 --> 1:03:51.080
<v Speaker 3>it necessary. Oh okay, I mean it was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like your only choice. It was like, well, we're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to continue to sell our cars at thirty five

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<v Speaker 3>K in nineteen eighty two, whatever the hell the price

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<v Speaker 3>would have been to have the same quality of car

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<v Speaker 3>when the camera's coming in and then Honda Accord is

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<v Speaker 3>coming in or whatever the hell, and they're selling them

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<v Speaker 3>at eight grand. There's probably was eighteen to eight reever

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<v Speaker 3>the hell the number one. We're gonna have to drive

1:04:14.160 --> 1:04:18.400
<v Speaker 3>the price of our Sedana way down. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think there's really enough corners to cut.

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<v Speaker 1>And just the American people screw themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>In some ways. Yeah, I mean, is it better if

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<v Speaker 3>you're a family of four to have one really nice

1:04:33.600 --> 1:04:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Chevy and Paula or two Honda Accords.

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<v Speaker 1>But looking out for tuning into the No Sllers podcast,

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