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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys,
Speaker 1: good morning. Today is December twenty nine, Friday, December twenty nine.
Speaker 1: I'm taking over today's show because mister Derek Hilton just
Speaker 1: had too much of un last night. He is here today, though.
Speaker 1: Enjoy your birthdast I did enjoy my birth. Yeah, everybody,
Speaker 1: you're feeling okay today? Yeah? I texted Amber last night.
Speaker 1: It was like, you think you can manage hosting the
Speaker 1: show tomorrow? It might not be in the best state
Speaker 1: of frame, state of mind. A few too many Tito's
Speaker 1: and soda water water I drate as I drink. I
Speaker 1: feel like that text happened, like as the guy standing
Speaker 1: there like do you want another, sir, and You're like
Speaker 1: hold on, no, actually yeah, okay yea. As me and
Speaker 1: SE's are about to leave, we were like uber, it
Speaker 1: was like yeah, And I was like oh, let me
Speaker 1: make a text. So I was like, yeah, it's probably
Speaker 1: a good time to go ahead and let somebody know. Well,
Speaker 1: we're just glad that you made it out of life
Speaker 1: and your present. We're glad that you are responsible too.
Speaker 1: I am responsible all the time. Well, Amber made it
Speaker 1: clear too. She was like, you know, Uber, you guys
Speaker 1: make no she said, make sure no drinking and driving.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, we're going Uber. We're doing it
Speaker 1: Uber everywhere, Uber everywhere. Okay, Well, I wanted to start
Speaker 1: off with talking about some of the guys in on
Speaker 1: the injury report. One of them standing out that we
Speaker 1: spoke about yesterday a lot was that's Brian. So now
Speaker 1: he shows up on there with a knee injury, Jasmine
Speaker 1: demand that wasn't tendonitis? Wasn't that happens? So this first
Speaker 1: time he's been the injury report. No, no, no, okay, no,
Speaker 1: I think that needs to be cleared up a little
Speaker 1: bit too, Like he has been on the injury report
Speaker 1: for three weeks, right, Yeah, So it's not the worst
Speaker 1: thing that he said that that that comment, I mean,
Speaker 1: he probably shouldn't have. He was just always full right
Speaker 1: limited for a little while back around. He's missed some
Speaker 1: time late October early November. He had nothing serious. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he didn't miss into games. Yeah, it's probably justified,
Speaker 1: and he's and he's right. It just it was just
Speaker 1: poor timing to say it. Then. It's just not a
Speaker 1: good time to say, well, I've had knee injuries. Nobody
Speaker 1: wants to hear all that, you know, not in not
Speaker 1: on December twenty seven. I mean, I saw a guy
Speaker 1: that broke his hand in the middle of a game
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, and he dropped five passes, and
Speaker 1: he was crucified for dropping five passes. Teo, he broke
Speaker 1: his hand, No one cares. I mean whatever, very catch
Speaker 1: the ball. So I mean, yeah, your knee hurt, whatever,
Speaker 1: I get it. You're not as explosive as you were.
Speaker 1: But he's still all still hitting you in the face,
Speaker 1: still hitting me in the hands. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole thing has been off a little bit for him,
Speaker 1: a lot of it. It Actually, are you guys feeling
Speaker 1: that this is any indication that he might sit out
Speaker 1: on Sunday? Well, I was about to say, I mean,
Speaker 1: this isn't a coincidence, right, This feels very strongly like
Speaker 1: a message to me by whom, yeah, and for whom who?
Speaker 1: By Jason Garrett, for Dez Bryant. I mean that, I
Speaker 1: mean to not be on the report at all, to
Speaker 1: practice fully on Wednesday, to say Wednesday afternoon, Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: had a knee issue all the year, and then to
Speaker 1: sit down for practice with a knee just the next day.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like a coincidence. Yes, no, No, You're
Speaker 1: right about that. It doesn't. I mean, it doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like a coincidence. I don't know if I had necessar
Speaker 1: early by that it's Jason sending that message, or could
Speaker 1: it be the opposite? Could it be? Could it be Dez?
Speaker 1: That's like how I can't go. I need to rest
Speaker 1: it it could it could be, Although I mean he
Speaker 1: said he also said Wednesday he said I consider myself
Speaker 1: a warrior, and if I can move and I can walk,
Speaker 1: then I'm going to be out there. So that kind
Speaker 1: of clashes with his own statement. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure, and I'm sure Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: will be asked about it today, but that the timing
Speaker 1: is interesting. I mean, I don't I don't know if
Speaker 1: that would qualify as a benching or what but to
Speaker 1: have him not be at practice the day after talking
Speaker 1: about suddenly he didn't say anything that would get him
Speaker 1: benched though, right, I don't know. I like I like
Speaker 1: Nick said, I mean, you've been battling this problem for
Speaker 1: the whole season. But does anybody want to hear that
Speaker 1: right now? Like if you've been going through these games
Speaker 1: and then say, oh, yeah, by the way, I've been hurt.
Speaker 1: I mean I could see that, rubbin people. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying he implied some things like we talked about yesterday.
Speaker 1: Did he did not really come out and say anything.
Speaker 1: I don't think that was all that controversial. I think it.
Speaker 1: It kind of came off maybe a little bit as
Speaker 1: excuse making, But yeah, I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: he said anything. I didn't read it as anything that
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wow, coach is gonna have a
Speaker 1: problem with that. I didn't, but maybe you guys did.
Speaker 1: I didn't think so at the time. But again, for
Speaker 1: the third time, it's really interesting timing that twenty three
Speaker 1: hours after he said that he wasn't on the practice
Speaker 1: field after being full of the day before that, like
Speaker 1: he wasn't even on the report. Yeah, and then they
Speaker 1: add him to the report and he doesn't practice at all,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see, I mean, see what happens today. Well,
Speaker 1: and also it might just be them protecting themselves too,
Speaker 1: you know, from we did that for a reason. That's
Speaker 1: a good point too. I mean, you know, because you
Speaker 1: get guys. You know the way it is now if
Speaker 1: you don't report guys on the injury report, and you know,
Speaker 1: and the guy says he's hurt, he says it on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Well then maybe he's hurt. Let's hold him out. Then.
Speaker 1: If he's gonna tell the world that he's hurting, then
Speaker 1: let's set him out. Yeah, I mean, I think it
Speaker 1: is a true message. I'm interested to see what he does.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, he practiced fully Wednesday, so
Speaker 1: I would assume he's in a good spot where he
Speaker 1: could play in this game. But we'll see what he
Speaker 1: does today. And I don't like, is it gonna play
Speaker 1: very interesting? It's And yeah, I always there's always gotta like,
Speaker 1: there's always gonna be something to keep the intrigue going,
Speaker 1: Like they're not gonna make the playoffs. But now we're
Speaker 1: doing this whole dance with this right now, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: we're not hosting Eric, you can't. No, no, I was
Speaker 1: gonna ask this question, if we're gonna go down the
Speaker 1: path of maybe this I don't want to call it
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory, but if we're gonna go down the
Speaker 1: path of yeah, I did um. But if we're gonna
Speaker 1: go down that path, could this possibly be a situation
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys are deciding let's sit him because we're
Speaker 1: gonna have contract conversations with him and we don't need
Speaker 1: him hurt. I mean, could that be part of it?
Speaker 1: I don't what is being hurt? Really? What does that
Speaker 1: really matter? If if he let's say, this is what
Speaker 1: Dave was saying yesterday, the reason why you don't play
Speaker 1: your best players in a game like this is because
Speaker 1: they get injured. And the kind of injury that you
Speaker 1: could get could be an injury that holds a guy
Speaker 1: out all during the off season and into training camp
Speaker 1: and maybe even the next season. Do you can are
Speaker 1: you concerned about that? For players Let's say, and let's
Speaker 1: not even just say Dez. Let's say this is a
Speaker 1: player that actually has a contract that's coming up, or
Speaker 1: a guy that you're gonna have to make a decision
Speaker 1: on it's in the last year. Yeah, exactly do you
Speaker 1: do you? Maybe does that affect your decision making on
Speaker 1: whether you let that guy play or not because you
Speaker 1: don't want him hurt in a situation where you're trying
Speaker 1: to negotiate a content hasn't shown enough the season at least,
Speaker 1: he hasn't done anything to make me want to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's we know what he's all about. I feel like
Speaker 1: this game he should go out there and try to
Speaker 1: give it all he got and try to, you know,
Speaker 1: change some people's mind even though it's just you're big
Speaker 1: on You're big on like rewards. Yeah, like reward good behavior.
Speaker 1: You don't deserve a day off. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: like it. But like you, I think I know where
Speaker 1: days going with this. So when you were when he
Speaker 1: was talking about like a hitchens a guy getting hurt,
Speaker 1: or would you play him like that only hurts the player,
Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt the Cowboys helps their negotiating position maybe,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean, if let's say des were
Speaker 1: to get hurt in this game or whatever, and then
Speaker 1: that's a good point. And then you get into it,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, okay, do you want to take a
Speaker 1: pay cut. You know, as you're not you're not practicing
Speaker 1: right now, you're gonna rehab for a while. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not taking a pay cut. Well okay, well we're probably
Speaker 1: gonna release you then. And now now you gotta go
Speaker 1: with crutches to go visit these other teams, and that
Speaker 1: might hurt his you know, negotiations as well. It can
Speaker 1: hurt the Cowboys too. I'm number ninety, he's out there,
Speaker 1: he's coming up on a contract negotiation. You probably want
Speaker 1: to franchise him. He gets himself hurt, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do there? And then now you're talking about you
Speaker 1: don't have your best pass rusher for next season. It's
Speaker 1: a good point because if you're talking about a franchise tag,
Speaker 1: now you're doing a franchise tag, and maybe you got
Speaker 1: a franchise tag on a guy that may not be
Speaker 1: able to play at So you're like, well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: spend a franchise tag on a guy that's going to
Speaker 1: be rehabbing all year, or are we going to sign
Speaker 1: into a long term deal knowing he'll be hurt for
Speaker 1: the beginning of it and as good as he's looked
Speaker 1: this year, like he could still probably get a nice deal,
Speaker 1: even with teams knowing that he'll be out for twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: But that's just my point. It complicates things. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so we start thinking about it from that standpoint. Yesterday
Speaker 1: I was completely against what you were saying. Today, in
Speaker 1: that context thought about it, I would actually think a
Speaker 1: little bit more. And that doesn't mean I changed the concept,
Speaker 1: but I maybe think about a little bit more. If
Speaker 1: there were guys that I'm kind of thinking about contract
Speaker 1: situations for the offseason. Maybe, Again, these guys are assets.
Speaker 1: Their job. Their job is to play football, but their
Speaker 1: job is to help you be good at football. They
Speaker 1: can't really do that on Sunday, but they can do
Speaker 1: it next year. Yeah, that's my whole point. Yeah. But also,
Speaker 1: do you feel like that Jerry Jones has gone up
Speaker 1: to Jason Garrett and said, you are coming back, coach.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about any of this stuff. You're coming back.
Speaker 1: He said it in the media. Okay, but do you
Speaker 1: think he's pulled him into his office and said that,
Speaker 1: if you just had to guess, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, Okay, I don't know their relationship.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but if you're Jason Garrett, like, and
Speaker 1: you need to win this game. I mean you need
Speaker 1: to win it. So yeah, I think so you think
Speaker 1: that this game can make can ultimately make a decision
Speaker 1: as to whether he's here or next year or not.
Speaker 1: I think it helps to win on a you know,
Speaker 1: to in the season on a winning note. I think
Speaker 1: that you know, he doesn't probably know one. He's coming back,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna play these guys. They're gonna go and win.
Speaker 1: And what have we heard about Jason Garrett from a
Speaker 1: number standpoint, But everyone always puts a label on him
Speaker 1: eight Nate, I'm telling you what, I'll be damned if
Speaker 1: I go eight and eight this year. I'm gonna win
Speaker 1: this damn game. We're gonna win. We're gonna beat the Eagles.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a winning record. We're gonna go nine
Speaker 1: to seven. They might win the super Bowl, but we
Speaker 1: beat them. And I would go play this game and
Speaker 1: that for any other reason. I'm like, our guys are
Speaker 1: gonna and strong and we're gonna play. Well, that's that's
Speaker 1: the point I was making yesterday that that's just his mantra.
Speaker 1: That's always been his mantra. Is every day we show
Speaker 1: up and no matter what, until they tell us to
Speaker 1: stop playing, we're gonna keep playing, right, So, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's his that's his thing, and I wouldn't expect anything
Speaker 1: less from him. Everybody gets it. Everyone. I understand his point,
Speaker 1: he understands our point. And when the guy gets carted
Speaker 1: off the field, he Dave's gonna be like, that's where
Speaker 1: I know he's gonna have that saving little smirk on
Speaker 1: his face. I would not smirk about something. Smirk, but
Speaker 1: I mean just kind of like I told you guys,
Speaker 1: it's gonna happened. What I was telling Naked about daring
Speaker 1: my fat in trying to catch his cell phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can get hurt any way, Like you can get
Speaker 1: hurt outside of I hate that argument so much because like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can get hurt crossing the street, you can get
Speaker 1: hurt doing anything you paintball. No, you can get hurt
Speaker 1: in week one. Like, but but you're in control of
Speaker 1: the finite amount of things. So take control of one
Speaker 1: of the things that you're in control of. You know,
Speaker 1: you can hold be so funny if you just don't
Speaker 1: play them. And then as they're walking out to the
Speaker 1: field and they're sweats. They slip and fall and break something, right,
Speaker 1: that's life. This thing is scary because Seattle last year,
Speaker 1: like he was adamant about not playing Tony Romo. Remember that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it goes down. Um, let's quickly talk about
Speaker 1: Orlandos Kendrick, who has been out for a while with
Speaker 1: the backing trees now back to a limited and it
Speaker 1: sounds like he's just out. Yeah. So there was a
Speaker 1: lot of talk to the media and it was kind
Speaker 1: of interesting, a lot of um implications of him possibly
Speaker 1: not being here next year. Wait, des talk yesterday. What
Speaker 1: do you say? He said? A bunch of stuff, he said,
Speaker 1: hold on, yeah, come over here. To be ironical, not
Speaker 1: to put in house business out in public, but like
Speaker 1: it was a hell of an afternoon for our cms
Speaker 1: to go down because there's like all kinds of stuff
Speaker 1: coming out of that greatness coming out of that locker room. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it seemed though, I saw so many reports like
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was almost a foregone conclusion He's
Speaker 1: not here next year, or at least that's the way
Speaker 1: the story seemed to be written in so many different publications,
Speaker 1: like he's not coming back. Well, remember at the beginning
Speaker 1: of this year during free agency kind of there was
Speaker 1: a talk about that whole thing of and him very
Speaker 1: being very offended and having to talk with I think
Speaker 1: it was Jerry like and Jerry had to come out
Speaker 1: and be like, no, you're gonna be here, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Do you guys expect this for or for this to
Speaker 1: actually happen this year? Well, you know, his contract is
Speaker 1: really favorable to the Cowboys and so, and I haven't
Speaker 1: I haven't been one that's that's really been gung ho
Speaker 1: about the corners that are playing right now. I think
Speaker 1: that they're they're they're young, they're they're scrapping, They're they're
Speaker 1: doing the best they can. But you know, they have
Speaker 1: given up some some plays as well. I mean, and
Speaker 1: so I don't think that they they're ready. I mean,
Speaker 1: Scandrick should be out there. I know he's hurt, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying Scandrick is the is still the best cornerback.
Speaker 1: I think that they have. I believe that, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't close. I don't think I'm as down on
Speaker 1: these young cornerbacks as you are. I think neither. I
Speaker 1: think they've given up. They've given up some plays. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's what quarterbacks are not going to be perfect.
Speaker 1: These are not is not none of them are deon
Speaker 1: I know. And so I look at it and say,
Speaker 1: I actually feel pretty good about where they are right now,
Speaker 1: about the quarterback position without Scandrick. I'm not saying I
Speaker 1: don't feel good, but I think looking forward, I think
Speaker 1: you've got a couple of guys that that you know,
Speaker 1: you had to They didn't make the playoffs either way,
Speaker 1: so you got to learn. These guys got to play
Speaker 1: on the run, uh and and learn and and you know,
Speaker 1: they've get given up some some game winning touchdowns, they've
Speaker 1: given up some plays, but they keep fighting. I think
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis is I think Jordan Lewis is probably the
Speaker 1: most talented guy back. Yes, I actually think Cheetos a
Speaker 1: guy like the most out of them. I would move
Speaker 1: him to safety. But personally, I like break the tide
Speaker 1: Dave Oh. I like Cheeto at corner, and I think
Speaker 1: he's the most physically gifted. But I think Jordan's got
Speaker 1: that like it think that you need to have to
Speaker 1: play corner. I'm not saying Cheeto doesn't, but I've seen
Speaker 1: it more from Jordan. Yeah. Um, but I mean Cheeto,
Speaker 1: He's he's freakishly athletic. I mean, and he's got he's
Speaker 1: got good size. I like him at corner. If if
Speaker 1: if safety is that big of a deal, which I
Speaker 1: think it is, I would draft a guy. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I kind of think you could flip the Byron Jones
Speaker 1: and and Cheeto and do it in the off seat.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see Byron at corner. Well, where
Speaker 1: do you want to see him? I want to see
Speaker 1: him question play one more year the Bears one one
Speaker 1: more year as like a dime nickel hybrid guy, and
Speaker 1: let him ben and then I agree, well, or or
Speaker 1: depending on what his market is, maybe you bring him
Speaker 1: back like you did mo on a on a very
Speaker 1: agreeable But that's that's the point. Like right now, he
Speaker 1: hasn't done anything in my opinion to earn the starting job.
Speaker 1: He hasn't done anything in my opinion, to earn a
Speaker 1: new contract, a next contract. So he's got another year.
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens, and then if if he has
Speaker 1: a great year, then maybe you reevaluate it. I just
Speaker 1: don't think i've seen anything yet that suggests that either
Speaker 1: at corner or when he's played at corner when he's
Speaker 1: played a safety. To me, he's been just a guys
Speaker 1: like Combine was the greatest thing that ever happened to him,
Speaker 1: because if he doesn't go to the Combine, he's probably
Speaker 1: a third round pick. It just just because he's a
Speaker 1: you know, Yukon and don't know really where to play him.
Speaker 1: But he's a pretty good athlete and all that, and
Speaker 1: then and then it would everything would work. Then he
Speaker 1: could be a special teams type guy. Nickel guy goes
Speaker 1: around flipping around doing that great play a little bit
Speaker 1: at safety, not be a starter, just kind of nobody.
Speaker 1: Nobody would care that this is his role on the
Speaker 1: team if he wasn't a first round Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: JJ Wilcox type stuff. But probably would be better if
Speaker 1: Byron Jones was doing what he's doing as pick number eighty,
Speaker 1: which I think JJ was, he would go great about it.
Speaker 1: He would be a fan favorite. There's no doubt. Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and take our first break. When we
Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna discuss possible roster moves or guys,
Speaker 1: I may go into the injury reserve list. Yes, we'll
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Speaker 1: Back to the break. Okay, guys, we are back on
Speaker 1: the break. I'm taking over Derek's job for today, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into what was that face anything? Last shows,
Speaker 1: last last show of the year. Yeah, you just checked out.
Speaker 1: Now I didn't check out. I'm here Texas gets that
Speaker 1: big win against big bad MISSOI, and you're just sporting
Speaker 1: the long horn everywhere you're going out, sported it last
Speaker 1: week before the game. You're okay that your head coach
Speaker 1: just mocking love it because do you know the backstory
Speaker 1: of it? Not really well, the fact that he did
Speaker 1: it earlier in the game. No, the fact that the
Speaker 1: fact that Missouri started all this the day before at
Speaker 1: the din luncheon, was doing the horns down and talking
Speaker 1: about how when they score they're gonna do the horns
Speaker 1: down and all this, and before the game they're taking
Speaker 1: pictures doing horns down and all right, that's cool, hey,
Speaker 1: but if you can hand it out, then you gotta
Speaker 1: be able to take you back. I agree, nobody loves
Speaker 1: trash talk more than I do. But like, leave it
Speaker 1: for the players. Let the players do it. It's it's
Speaker 1: not a great look for the coach to do it. Coach.
Speaker 1: All I could say, though, is forty five year old
Speaker 1: band who made it out eight million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: When you give it out. You gotta be trash talk
Speaker 1: is the best, but like leave it to the twenty
Speaker 1: something and then just laugh when they do it, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: give the but there going to be any discipline for
Speaker 1: those guys now, he liked, no, sir. He wandered around
Speaker 1: the sideline for like ten minutes. He was used to
Speaker 1: do it too, he was he was so much. But
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes coaches do crazy things in college because
Speaker 1: they're trying to and over win over their teams. It's
Speaker 1: a good win. So it was a good win. They
Speaker 1: played pretty well. I was impressed. Hell if you can
Speaker 1: carry it over, Okay, we'll happen next year. I know.
Speaker 1: But let's start off with guys that may be placed
Speaker 1: on I R. Who are you guys expect? Well, Sandrid,
Speaker 1: we talked about Scandrick. I think he is gonna sounds
Speaker 1: like Scandrick's heading to IR. It sounds like Tyrant Smith
Speaker 1: is heading to IR. Which we could have told you
Speaker 1: these things. Well, we could have told you these things
Speaker 1: on Monday. But for it's all, it's got to be
Speaker 1: like an end of the week state secret. For some
Speaker 1: reason other than that, any specific guys I you would
Speaker 1: be wanting to see go to ir theyve wants the
Speaker 1: whole starting line up. Yes, I do, you have to
Speaker 1: just put them on Sean You're out of here. Um,
Speaker 1: I think it's just those two. I mean, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna put a ton of guys on I R because
Speaker 1: that I mean, that's more guys you have to pay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now you're starting to pay a roster of fifty because
Speaker 1: you got to bring somebody up and so so bring
Speaker 1: up Lance Lenore and Kadeem Edwards. Sounds like the guys
Speaker 1: that are getting elevated. They've been here since camp, both
Speaker 1: of them. Hey, like third preseason game, third preseason game.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, Dave, do you do you expect
Speaker 1: the final game of the season, lance Lenore is going
Speaker 1: to be playing in the game against the Eagles. I
Speaker 1: think we spent all of preseason waiting for then email
Speaker 1: that lance Lenore had been cut because he couldn't hold
Speaker 1: onto any punts like he was. They kept putting him
Speaker 1: out there to return punts. But he did have a
Speaker 1: nice touchdown again, that's true. He did have a deep,
Speaker 1: he had a big he had a long bomb from
Speaker 1: Cooper the goat Rush. Yeah, you guys, Cooper the goat
Speaker 1: Rush you know, we didn't talk to us again at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying obviously I'm he's gonna play,
Speaker 1: But how are you guys feeling with his condition right now?
Speaker 1: This is interesting because you know, if you follow the NFL,
Speaker 1: you know that this happens with kickers. They have these
Speaker 1: moments when, for whatever reason, sometimes it's just inexplicable, they
Speaker 1: just go through these periods where they start missing a
Speaker 1: really good kickers right. A lot of times it starts
Speaker 1: just like this, with an injury. Get an injury, you
Speaker 1: come back, you're trying to figure out how to you know,
Speaker 1: kick through it or whatever. And it happened with Nick
Speaker 1: Folk here. Nick Folk was a Pro Bowl kicker a
Speaker 1: rookie year, and then he gets hurt and it just
Speaker 1: isn't the same, and then he gets in your head
Speaker 1: and then that's right, you guys are bumming me out
Speaker 1: right now. No, And it just happens like That's the
Speaker 1: part that you have to worry about if you're the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: is you know, good thing is just at the end
Speaker 1: of the season, so he has an offseason to kind
Speaker 1: of get himself right. But yeah, it happens, and you
Speaker 1: see really good kickers. I'm look at how much like
Speaker 1: right now, if you're going to look around in the NFL,
Speaker 1: a lot of really good kickers are kicking for other teams.
Speaker 1: The reason why is because they went through that moment
Speaker 1: where they just weren't for whatever reason, they just got
Speaker 1: off and they couldn't get back. A kicker of all time,
Speaker 1: they'd be a Hall of Fame kicker, maybe a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. But do you guys feel that this might
Speaker 1: be something just more mental for him? Yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: that's the point. Yeah. I mean, you know, eleven years ago,
Speaker 1: remember the Cowboys signed Mike Vanderjack in two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: He was the greatest kicker of all time and a
Speaker 1: head case he was, and he couldn't he was mental.
Speaker 1: He couldn't make any more kicks. It definitely is because
Speaker 1: the leg. I don't think the leg goes, it's just
Speaker 1: like it's just some how it definitely doesn't go. Because
Speaker 1: Adam Van Terry is still drilling him at your age
Speaker 1: and that's not an exaggeration, but he I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say that forty five year old to be an NFL player,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to do. But he went through.
Speaker 1: I mean and after the game I talked to to
Speaker 1: Dan for a while actually, and he was in better
Speaker 1: spirits than than I thought he would be much better
Speaker 1: spirits than he was after the Giants game and he
Speaker 1: had those those kicks. But you know, he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be fine. You know, I'm gonna be now.
Speaker 1: He was disappointed that he felt like he let the
Speaker 1: whole team down and all the guys that worked so hard,
Speaker 1: and you know, but he um, you know he's shaking
Speaker 1: your head. He because no, but he his job is,
Speaker 1: his job is to go make kicks. It just it
Speaker 1: just made me upset when I saw some tweets and
Speaker 1: about like oh Dan made us lose the game or
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. It's just stupid. That's it's it's
Speaker 1: you know, the guy hit three home runs than he
Speaker 1: has the final strikeout. Did he lose the game? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Or the only reason you had seven runs because of him?
Speaker 1: I mean, he had all of the points, right, you know,
Speaker 1: he didn't make six field goals. Okay, but but points.
Speaker 1: But you expect him to make those kicks. It's unfortunate
Speaker 1: that they have you know, first and goal from the
Speaker 1: three and you have to kick a thirty eight yard
Speaker 1: field goal or whatever it was. Yeah, you shouldn't have
Speaker 1: to kick any field goals, but they might have scored
Speaker 1: and he kicks extra point and might have missed that
Speaker 1: because it's the same distance. Okay, so the Cowboys, Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett said that they're going into this game and try
Speaker 1: to win it. We know that this game doesn't matter really,
Speaker 1: but who would be some guys? Are you? Guys are
Speaker 1: wanting to be watching at this game for the Cowboys? Yeah,
Speaker 1: specifically need to really impress us. I still want to
Speaker 1: see more from Byronbell just because they got to do
Speaker 1: something at swing tackle. I don't think Byron Bell had
Speaker 1: a horrible game last week, and I want to I
Speaker 1: want to see more of him to see is he
Speaker 1: good enough to be a solid swing tackle for this team,
Speaker 1: because I think you got to have a pretty good one.
Speaker 1: And they're not just out there like that's the thing.
Speaker 1: They're really good. They're probably starting for somebody, So it's
Speaker 1: hard to find a good swing tackling. I think as
Speaker 1: a swing tackle you probably want a veteran. I would think,
Speaker 1: because the two guys you got there are going to
Speaker 1: be solidified as your starters. So I want to see
Speaker 1: a little bit more Byron Bell so that or the
Speaker 1: I think the coaches should see a little bit more
Speaker 1: of him so that they can get a good handle
Speaker 1: on whether they think he can be the answer as
Speaker 1: your swing tackle. I don't think it's Jazz Green. I
Speaker 1: think after this year, Chazz Green might not be a
Speaker 1: part of what they're doing. I wouldn't think maybe he is,
Speaker 1: who knows, let him finished out his contract at least
Speaker 1: through really, I mean, at least there's no reason to
Speaker 1: get rid of him until the training camps over at least,
Speaker 1: like what's might I mean, why, oh yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: training camps over. I just don't expect him to be
Speaker 1: on this team when the season gets here next year.
Speaker 1: Like I think last year, if what was what was
Speaker 1: the guy that six foot whatever, the tree skipper? Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you cut? Do you cut him last year in favor?
Speaker 1: If you're going back into this and you had that
Speaker 1: guy somebody like him, do you cut him for the
Speaker 1: sake of chas? I think it's next year. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day, he's a veteran who can play
Speaker 1: guard and tackle, So I wouldn't bet against him just
Speaker 1: because of that. I'm not I don't know, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I don't know if I think he can
Speaker 1: play tackle anymore. I think he's been exposed as a tackle.
Speaker 1: Maybe he can play guard. I don't think he can
Speaker 1: play tackle. I wouldn't be surprised if he's one of
Speaker 1: your eight, That's all I'm saying. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: he could he you know, make him a guard, whatever
Speaker 1: you do, just call him a guard. Just go make
Speaker 1: him a guard. Yeah. Yeah, But the problem is is
Speaker 1: that he's you know, Looney is better as far as
Speaker 1: a backup pending free agent. True, it's gonna be interesting,
Speaker 1: that's yeah. You could get him though for a pretty
Speaker 1: or deal if to Cowboys one, I would assume so.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean who knows, Yeah, who knows what
Speaker 1: they want to do. Um, if you're gonna throw him
Speaker 1: out there, which I don't want to do, but if
Speaker 1: you're gonna throw him out there, I mean, I hope
Speaker 1: that can end on a high note. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: not he's he's not. To be clear, he's not in
Speaker 1: that Sean Lee Tyron Smith category where you're like, all right,
Speaker 1: you're you're good, You're an all pro like we know,
Speaker 1: you're a grot like he's still he's got a lot
Speaker 1: of improving to do, a lot of growing to do.
Speaker 1: He's far from a finished product as a quarterback. So
Speaker 1: every every rep matters, especially a regular season rep. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna put him out there, I hope, I
Speaker 1: hope he can play well and then prove on some
Speaker 1: of the things he struggled with down the stretch. And
Speaker 1: Tyron won't be there. But I mean, if Zeke's out
Speaker 1: there with him and he's got at least a few
Speaker 1: of his starting receivers, I mean, we'll see what happens
Speaker 1: with Dez, but I mean he should have most of
Speaker 1: the main players on his offense working with him. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I think about players that might affect the
Speaker 1: team to make decisions on the in the draft, and
Speaker 1: let's say they go first and second round and don't
Speaker 1: get a safety, well, you know whatever, you go any
Speaker 1: other round. You get to the third round, now you're
Speaker 1: get you're getting into players that may or may not
Speaker 1: start for you. You know, it's not a given that
Speaker 1: you're gonna put them out there. That's where I think
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods has a chance to you know, if if
Speaker 1: he can end this season on a high note, if
Speaker 1: he's not going to be the reason you don't draft
Speaker 1: a guy in the first round. If you like it
Speaker 1: this safety, you're gonna take him. You have nobody out there.
Speaker 1: But if you get into the middle rounds and you're thinking,
Speaker 1: you know what, this guy may not be better than
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods. So I think, I know that sounds kind
Speaker 1: of weird, but I think Xavier Woods has a chance
Speaker 1: to kind of do something here. Now. I don't believe
Speaker 1: there's anybody really that would that would say first round
Speaker 1: or any any positions corner maybe corner, But I still
Speaker 1: think if you're sitting at wherever you're gonna pick, and
Speaker 1: you have a corner, I think you take him. Even
Speaker 1: though the two guys you got, I still think you
Speaker 1: take it. Is there a position on this team where
Speaker 1: you can't where you're just like, I can't imagine taking
Speaker 1: a guy there? Probably running back. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: I get if Alfred's not going to be here next year,
Speaker 1: which we don't know him all on the draft or
Speaker 1: running back train, I think it needs to happen. But
Speaker 1: first round, Oh, I'm sorry, first round. Sorry, I thought
Speaker 1: you Yeah, I didn't hear that party the first round? Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably running back, running back. I think quarterback. I'm sure
Speaker 1: guy out there disagree. I think quarterback at nineteen. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's that's where you're gonna be
Speaker 1: our seventeen, whatever you're gonna be. I don't like the
Speaker 1: quarterback there. Now. If for whatever the reason this team was,
Speaker 1: maybe they had someone else's pick and they're sitting number
Speaker 1: two or three overall, yeah, I don't. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Dak is done. And I hate to say this
Speaker 1: but because it doesn't really matter, but I think if
Speaker 1: if you are sitting with a franchise type of quarterback
Speaker 1: up there, I think you'd have to make that decision.
Speaker 1: I still don't think you spend a first rounder on, say, like,
Speaker 1: would you spend a first rounder on an offensive lineman? Man,
Speaker 1: I saw a mock draft. Maybe a guard, but kind
Speaker 1: of a tackle. Really, you take a tackle in first
Speaker 1: round if looks fine? I mean, well if I would
Speaker 1: prefer a guard. If yeah, but if ty a tackle
Speaker 1: that maybe you can play a guarding like like Amber's
Speaker 1: got tiring. But we'll see. For how many games we got,
Speaker 1: we got tours walking by out there. We can't just
Speaker 1: be saying that. Lordy, you know, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean you're gonna resign lyle I guess at some point here, yea,
Speaker 1: what he's on a two year deal. It was a
Speaker 1: two year extension. Yeah, he's still got two years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but probably not probably not tackle, but any spot on
Speaker 1: the defense, any spot that you think this guy's worthy
Speaker 1: of the pick. Yeah, I'm in because of the bodies.
Speaker 1: Would you spend a first rounder on a defensive end?
Speaker 1: I know, And I'm not saying that you can't use
Speaker 1: a great one. I'm saying like, when you you still
Speaker 1: think about you spent a first round pick on tackle
Speaker 1: last year. If if it's ring it, keep bringing them.
Speaker 1: If he's clearly if he's clearly the best choice at
Speaker 1: that spot, then absolutely, I love But again, don't sorry.
Speaker 1: I just they did it. They had a couple of
Speaker 1: guys that were good players, and then they saw JPP
Speaker 1: and they're like, keep bringing them for good. I can't
Speaker 1: have too many good pass rushers, no doubt. I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say, I mean, it doesn't always really matter
Speaker 1: why the position is, don't They usually just go with
Speaker 1: the best guy available or at least, that's what I think.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It is a it is a thing
Speaker 1: that people love to say, which Stephen Jones is even admitted,
Speaker 1: He's like, it's a great idea that is can be
Speaker 1: hard to follow when it comes down to nut cutting time,
Speaker 1: which you know you see that play out all across
Speaker 1: the league. You're like, oh, yeah, but we really need
Speaker 1: that guy. I mean, this is a little better player.
Speaker 1: But was Taco inarguably the best player available at twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Probably not, But they knew that the back end was
Speaker 1: loaded with corners and safeties that they could get later.
Speaker 1: So I mean Kevin Kings, one of the guys you
Speaker 1: TuS talked about that maybe they should have taken there
Speaker 1: because he was a better player, but they knew that
Speaker 1: they couldn't get a guy like Taco if tackle's caliber
Speaker 1: a defensive end. Second right, I'm convinced that that draft
Speaker 1: was all about Dallas knew the other teams were not
Speaker 1: going to touch Jordan Lewis, not where they were going
Speaker 1: to take him. They knew that they could get Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis because they had done their homework. They liked what
Speaker 1: what they you know, what they obviously what they saw
Speaker 1: from him, and they felt confident about the story He's
Speaker 1: gonna be he was gonna be available. So they some
Speaker 1: teams took him off their board and they didn't and
Speaker 1: they know that, like they call around for for weeks
Speaker 1: saying this guy in the box is he off the board?
Speaker 1: So they knew they could get Jordan Lewis. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: and I think that affected the Kevin King not taking
Speaker 1: him getting in there and and going in the third round.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I don't know what who else
Speaker 1: is playing well, you know Corner in the third round.
Speaker 1: But you know Taco is playing pretty damn well over
Speaker 1: the month. Yeah about it. I'm not looking like I directed.
Speaker 1: That was directed that drop in a while, directed into
Speaker 1: the microphone to all those listeners haters out there. It's
Speaker 1: good to see some progress. He's playing pretty well. I
Speaker 1: mean that was kind of the point of my question though,
Speaker 1: is because of the way he's played, and obviously you
Speaker 1: still got you would think they're gonna do something. I
Speaker 1: would I don't think DeMarcus Lawrence is going There's no
Speaker 1: way they were gonna let him walk out of the door. Benson, Han,
Speaker 1: what plays a lot for you so you could replace?
Speaker 1: So if you if you had just another guy, if
Speaker 1: even if it was the first round, do you feel
Speaker 1: pretty good about that, because again, you're rotating anyway. As
Speaker 1: good as you feel about him right now, you can
Speaker 1: remove the tyrone Crawford back to tackle right and oh
Speaker 1: my god, I don't do that. We'll talk about that
Speaker 1: if and if and when that ever happen at training camp,
Speaker 1: If and when that ever happens, we'll have that conversation.
Speaker 1: Then I'm not having that conversation. He'll be at training camp. Maybe,
Speaker 1: how do you know? Maybe I mean, like we don't
Speaker 1: know that. Well, there's nothing you can say with certainty
Speaker 1: when it comes to that situation. Okay, but I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying all right, But I mean, why would
Speaker 1: he not be because he hasn't been reinstated by league.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not. Maybe he's not. Maybe he has not
Speaker 1: met all of the stipulations they need him to meet
Speaker 1: in order for him to get reinstated. I don't know,
Speaker 1: as I as I update on where he is, as
Speaker 1: I understand it, like, this isn't just like a suspension
Speaker 1: where when it's over you come back, right. You have
Speaker 1: to be and stated by the NFL. So that's up
Speaker 1: to them. Yeah, so yeah, I just don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know at this point anything more than the average person
Speaker 1: out there about Randy Gregory. So I'm gonna assume until
Speaker 1: the league says, yeah, you're ready to go. I know
Speaker 1: that he's not coming back. I know this. We put
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory in a headline for a mail bag, it
Speaker 1: gets a lot more, a lot more clearly. All right,
Speaker 1: let's start talking about the Eagles. We sorry Eagles. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so this thing we don't We don't necessarily know who
Speaker 1: they're gonna play exactly while players are gonna be available
Speaker 1: for that game. But we do know that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are trying to win this game. And if so, who
Speaker 1: would be some of the guys that the Cowboys should
Speaker 1: be aware of and kind of on the lookout. Well,
Speaker 1: they have six running backs that they play like regularly.
Speaker 1: Only a couple of good ones. Huh. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I just know every time that somebody's running the ball.
Speaker 1: Not only that, but they play I think they play
Speaker 1: or tight ends if you count, if you count, is
Speaker 1: mac Hollins a tight end? No, he's a receiver. Um
Speaker 1: looks like one. They got Trey Burton sellec and Um,
Speaker 1: Hurts are the three big ones. They probably have a four.
Speaker 1: It's been hurt some, so that may be what you
Speaker 1: think it'd have been. Hurts. Hurt's been hurts. Hurts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hurts and hurts. It's not drinking from last night. Yeah yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: one path yards would have got me two points Hurts
Speaker 1: were back on Fantasy Now Yeah it's over, Nick, it's over.
Speaker 1: Just let it go. I just I want I just
Speaker 1: want Fletcher Cocks. I'm trying to killing it. I want
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox and Timmy jurn again to sit out of
Speaker 1: this game. Um, that'd be nice. They have the first
Speaker 1: of all, they have the potential to stop Zeke and
Speaker 1: they have the potential to hurt back. I don't like
Speaker 1: either one of those ideas, So just get get them
Speaker 1: out of there. Don't play, don't play? Um what No,
Speaker 1: Just hand me that. Who's the bet of those two is?
Speaker 1: If Fletchercox the best guy? Yea, Fletcher Cox, He's a
Speaker 1: madman choice. Do you know, Dave the draft order where
Speaker 1: it stands and what could happen with wins losses? It
Speaker 1: too hard to tell. It's hard to figure out because
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, like throw head to head and
Speaker 1: all that type of stuff out the window. And you're
Speaker 1: talking about draft order, it's only record and your strength
Speaker 1: of schedule, and so it's hard. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: log jam of like seven and nine, eight and eight
Speaker 1: and nine and seven teams, and it's hard to know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to figure who's got the best to range
Speaker 1: right now? Do you know the range right now? Eight
Speaker 1: and eight to nine and seventeens they're picking. They're picking
Speaker 1: nineteenth right now, and depending on what happens this weekend,
Speaker 1: I think they could climb as high as sixteen, maybe fifteen,
Speaker 1: but no higher than that. How far down could they
Speaker 1: drop if they can't go any further than twenty, No,
Speaker 1: they can't go nineteen because either the Falcons or the
Speaker 1: Seahawks are gonna make the playoffs, So they're nineteen is
Speaker 1: the worst? Sixteen Maybe fifteen is the best, Probably sixteen.
Speaker 1: It's those four So like, really, I mean people are
Speaker 1: sitting like, oh, they gotta lose and get a better dress,
Speaker 1: Like is nineteen and sixteen? Is it really that big
Speaker 1: of a deal. Somebody's gonna come and say it is,
Speaker 1: because well, I mean, yeah, I believe and in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald went fourteenth and Odell Beckham went thirteenth. Wait wait,
Speaker 1: wait no, no, I'd let me Aaron Donald. Yeah he
Speaker 1: went fourteenth. Yeah, it's yeah, it wasn't right in front
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. Here's the if it wasn't that it was.
Speaker 1: I thought he was like eighth, No he was. He
Speaker 1: might have been twelfth. He might have Okay, he was
Speaker 1: in that rage. But so the difference between a win
Speaker 1: and a loss can matter. But it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to sit there and mf the Cowboys for that because
Speaker 1: they drafted Zach Martin, like they got the best guard
Speaker 1: in football. Like, Okay, you didn't get Odell and you
Speaker 1: didn't get Aaron Donald. Yeah, that was a deep draft.
Speaker 1: That was extremely draft, and especially first round. Hey, trust me,
Speaker 1: I would prefer that they lose this game. But I
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be the end of the
Speaker 1: world if they pick eighteenth because they win. I mean,
Speaker 1: what about the momentum and that they can't Yeah, when
Speaker 1: these guys get back to the facility in mid March,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a lot of momentum from this game
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Speaker 1: want to feel like you're the king of the world,
Speaker 1: I think I recommend Tommy John like and I want
Speaker 1: to feel like that every day. So yeah, let's just
Speaker 1: go Tommy Like. When you were a kid, like you
Speaker 1: had the underwear with the rocket ships on it, and
Speaker 1: it like just made you feel cool to wear it. Really,
Speaker 1: no all right, back in my day it is called
Speaker 1: underwoos whatever. You never heard of those, but what it
Speaker 1: was when I was a kid, Were you Tommy you
Speaker 1: John Undos? Right? No, No, I have kind of a
Speaker 1: really bad story about that. I was gonna I thought
Speaker 1: you're gonna say you still wear under? Still kind of
Speaker 1: haunts me to this day. Can you tell us you
Speaker 1: want to talk about it on the radio. I don't
Speaker 1: really want to talk about it, seriously. I'd love to
Speaker 1: hear the story. Tell me at least maybe I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: but I don't have to tell Like, you know, Rob
Speaker 1: Vegas about it. Oh my gosh, He's the only color
Speaker 1: I could think of, because you get it all the time. Still,
Speaker 1: we do have a caller Danny in Hawaii. Oh Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? Hey? How are you guys doing? Doing great? Um?
Speaker 1: You know, I would have used this game as like
Speaker 1: you know, um using more combinations of I mean, I
Speaker 1: know they did them some this year, but I would
Speaker 1: like to see it a little more ended with Ryan
Speaker 1: Switzer and and I'm Beasley on the field together, or
Speaker 1: like you know, put Zeke and Rod Smith in the
Speaker 1: in the backfield together, you know, like just to get
Speaker 1: things spread around and one more thing is like you know,
Speaker 1: with the whole dead situation. Sometimes I go crazy watching
Speaker 1: TV if there's a cornerback backing off. Why don't this
Speaker 1: um just dumped the ball off to him, you know,
Speaker 1: like this, give him that little wink and destroy it
Speaker 1: off because you know, one thing he's dominating at is
Speaker 1: running the ball. You know. That's the way I sometimes
Speaker 1: scream at the TV's like they're backing up. Hike the
Speaker 1: ball and throw it. You know, it's like stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And um also for nick Um. I know one thing
Speaker 1: about this draft what I'm liking is the big number
Speaker 1: one fatty number one technique Vita via Wilkins. You know
Speaker 1: those kind of guys. Yeah, that's you know, number one technique,
Speaker 1: you know, because he's got it all right, thank you
Speaker 1: for the um. It's like early in Hawaii, isn't it
Speaker 1: the six hours behind it? Some Oh it's four am
Speaker 1: over like it's six hours behind, right, I think I
Speaker 1: thought I thought it was always six. I thought it's
Speaker 1: it's early, really early. It's early over there, that's all
Speaker 1: I know. Even if they're only four hours behind, which
Speaker 1: know that they're way more than four hours behind. But anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there are some good defensive tackles in this class on technique.
Speaker 1: Would you spend a first round pick on a one
Speaker 1: technique if he was the man of this defense, I
Speaker 1: don't think they would, but they needed they need defense
Speaker 1: if they did that. Do you think Malie Collins didn't
Speaker 1: is your three technique? Because this year he played a
Speaker 1: lot of one. He was at he was not. He
Speaker 1: was better at one than he was at three. For
Speaker 1: the most part. I've been disappointing this year. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think we thought he would. We think the injury has
Speaker 1: been part of it. Yeah, it's even on the injury
Speaker 1: port all season pretty much most of the seas. I
Speaker 1: don't and I think that, yeah, part of it. I
Speaker 1: think so too. I wouldn't. I mean your foot, you
Speaker 1: talk about creating power and leverage. I mean that's what
Speaker 1: you need and taking double teams sometimes when you're doing that.
Speaker 1: But like, you know, it's what we've always talked about,
Speaker 1: Like he's he's his body type's not really for one,
Speaker 1: you know, not everybody's Jay Ratliffe. Yeah, and I say
Speaker 1: that with respect to him, Like we didn't think he
Speaker 1: was big enough Jay, you know, to to do anything
Speaker 1: that does it. Like, regardless how big or not you are,
Speaker 1: it's the best rebounder in NBA history. Rodman does he
Speaker 1: look like he would be the best rebounder, and oh
Speaker 1: but he was great. He was crazy sometimes great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: crazy helps, I would doubt I mean crazy, I think
Speaker 1: I don't be as he bucks his eyes, I think crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's there's a there's a d
Speaker 1: tackle front coming out of Washington that might have been
Speaker 1: who he was talking about. And then the kid coming
Speaker 1: out of Clemson is there's somebody at a Stanford that
Speaker 1: y'all were talking about. I don't remember. Off the top
Speaker 1: of mine, I'm not I'm not all the way there yet.
Speaker 1: Like Brian's already like thirty guys in and I'm like,
Speaker 1: let me get, let me get to let me get
Speaker 1: through the season. Speaking of defensive tackles, is irving up
Speaker 1: after this year? He's a restricted free agents. Has anything
Speaker 1: that's happened recently change your opinion on what they should
Speaker 1: tender what they should offer him as a tender My
Speaker 1: opinion or their opinion. Both start with their opinion. I
Speaker 1: they're gonna tender him. You have absolutely gonna tender you
Speaker 1: have I'm saying, does it affect where they would so,
Speaker 1: just there's only three options for people out there who
Speaker 1: aren't familiar, and I think we've talked about it before,
Speaker 1: but just in case, we also had a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, just for clarity's sake, we all said first
Speaker 1: round tender. Right, what I'm asking is does it continue
Speaker 1: with it? And they say, you can offer him a
Speaker 1: first round tender, which means any team that wants to
Speaker 1: sign him would have to give you a first round
Speaker 1: pick and be it out your offer like you have
Speaker 1: the ability to match. Second round tender is the same thing,
Speaker 1: but it's a second round pick. Then the third option
Speaker 1: is original draft spot, which is not an option for
Speaker 1: David Irving because he wasn't drafted. So essentially, if somebody
Speaker 1: beats out, you're if you're not willing to match their contract,
Speaker 1: they get him and you get nothing in return. Right,
Speaker 1: so that's out of the question. Let's put some money
Speaker 1: values on that too the last year and they will
Speaker 1: go up a little bit. Say it was it's four millions,
Speaker 1: but first it'll be about four this year for the
Speaker 1: first round, and then second round was like two eight
Speaker 1: to nine. That's what you have to guarantee. In the contrast,
Speaker 1: that's what his contract will be, a one year, two
Speaker 1: point eight million for a second round tender. I think
Speaker 1: that's the way they go second round. I kind of
Speaker 1: leaned that way. I think I would still be willing
Speaker 1: to go first because four million dollars in the grand
Speaker 1: scheme of things is not a lot of money. Seven
Speaker 1: sacks and he hasn't played in the last month, that's true.
Speaker 1: So he's and he hadn't played in the first month. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, oh geez, so basically have seven sacks. It's
Speaker 1: got seven seven sacks and eight games. What you say, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, now, are you at all concerned with the
Speaker 1: fact that even before he got injured, there was some
Speaker 1: games there when it just like he was not necessarily
Speaker 1: getting sacks Like he seems to me to be the
Speaker 1: kind of guy that's like feast or famine. He can
Speaker 1: have some games that he's just just so disruptive and
Speaker 1: you can't do anything with him, and other games where
Speaker 1: it's like, did he was he on the stat sheet?
Speaker 1: I think does that concern you at all? I think
Speaker 1: he's he's so rawly talented and freakishly athletic that he
Speaker 1: can do stuff like that. I think he's got a
Speaker 1: long way to go. This is an unfair comparison, but
Speaker 1: he's he's a lot like Rico Gathers a little bit,
Speaker 1: I think, just in terms of like, again it's not
Speaker 1: a totally just comparison, because like David Irving's played more
Speaker 1: football than he has, but like he's just this freakish
Speaker 1: guy who in terms of like the Rod Marinelli stuff,
Speaker 1: like the intricacies of football, like I feel like he's
Speaker 1: barely touched tapped into that, Like he's just now getting
Speaker 1: to that in his third year, but he's so freakishly talented.
Speaker 1: Was Irving drafted, No, he was an undrafted free agent.
Speaker 1: He signed with Kansas City Because I know, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of a weird rule, but if you are drafted
Speaker 1: by somebody else and then you go to the you know,
Speaker 1: to another team, you are like if you could put
Speaker 1: an original drafting or it's it's whatever you were drafted at,
Speaker 1: not what you got him at, so that that's off
Speaker 1: the table because you wouldn't get any competition. Honestly, Like,
Speaker 1: I hope somebody, if it's not a deep blue, I
Speaker 1: hope somebody does a thirty for thirty about him at
Speaker 1: some point, assuming he keeps playing football, because like just
Speaker 1: the fact that he's even here is one of the
Speaker 1: most fascinating. I mean, he comes out of this like
Speaker 1: tiny little high school. He wound up at Iowa State,
Speaker 1: got kicked out. Like there's a whole litany of back
Speaker 1: off field, backstory things there that like, like I think
Speaker 1: he might have played like twenty snaps for his entire
Speaker 1: college career. And did you know he's a theater guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh that was remarkable to me when I found that.
Speaker 1: That's where I was going to go next. Like he
Speaker 1: talked about it this season, like he's he's into acting.
Speaker 1: He kind of wants to do that. He was I
Speaker 1: think he was in like a like a C list
Speaker 1: movie or something like that. And he does some theater work,
Speaker 1: like he's he's actually done some work in theater. I
Speaker 1: never covered Marty b but I kind of get that
Speaker 1: vibe from him, No, I do, though, Like I mean, really, yes,
Speaker 1: Marty Bee's you know, he's he's a cartoonist and he's
Speaker 1: interested in way more stuff than football. He's not He's
Speaker 1: not that football player that you can like put into
Speaker 1: that box where it's like, well, at eight a m.
Speaker 1: I go to meetings and then I go to practice,
Speaker 1: and then I watch my tape and then I go
Speaker 1: home and I watch more of my tape and I
Speaker 1: go to bed and I do it again and I
Speaker 1: dream about it. Yeah, that aint David Irving. And I
Speaker 1: think there's still a nipple ring out there. That's why
Speaker 1: he's good with the media, because actors love cameras. Somewhere
Speaker 1: it's still out there. Like he's an interesting guy. He is.
Speaker 1: He is a free spirit in a in a lot
Speaker 1: of good ways and in some regards in bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't report a concussion that he got during a game,
Speaker 1: and that's part of the reason why he's not playing
Speaker 1: right now. All that type of stuff. So he played well,
Speaker 1: he did, he did. He's not the most reliable guy
Speaker 1: in the world. Football teams love reliable guys, and I like,
Speaker 1: I think about all that stuff, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe they put a second round tender on him.
Speaker 1: And you know, they either they get to keep a
Speaker 1: good player who is not totally reliable, or if somebody
Speaker 1: wants to give him a second round pick for him,
Speaker 1: then we get a great pick and we kind of
Speaker 1: get this sort of unreliable you know what I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not doing the second round tender. Actually, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do the first round because it's only a million dollar difference.
Speaker 1: It's about four or three or you know, two eight
Speaker 1: or something like that. I'm gonna do that because nobody's
Speaker 1: really gonna drop there, even if it's the thirtieth pick.
Speaker 1: No one's gonna do that for David Irvy. But someone
Speaker 1: will do the sixtieth pick exactly, because that's what That's
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys did. They wanted Gregory at twenty eight,
Speaker 1: but they said, Noah, let's just don't do that. But
Speaker 1: at sixty, yeah, we can do that. I agree. I
Speaker 1: would put the first round tender on him because I
Speaker 1: think that almost assures that scares people. But but back
Speaker 1: up a second. If you were to get somebody told
Speaker 1: you right now that you could, they would trade you
Speaker 1: David Irving for a second round pick. Would not be
Speaker 1: okay with that, not not late second. How do these
Speaker 1: second round picks? I know, I get that, but the
Speaker 1: second round pick is valuable. It's for other teams. Sure, seriously,
Speaker 1: you have no effective tackle who can who can bend
Speaker 1: the way he does and dominate games at times. And
Speaker 1: like I just said, I get that, but I don't
Speaker 1: know if I you've just been saying he's not reliable.
Speaker 1: So if he's not reliable and somebody's offering you a
Speaker 1: second round pick for him, that's not a win. That's
Speaker 1: what I well, I don't I only have to deal
Speaker 1: with David Irving, like the one time a week that
Speaker 1: he talks and then during the games, and he plays well,
Speaker 1: So it seems worth it to me. Maybe it's not
Speaker 1: worth it to the people that have to work with
Speaker 1: him all day, every day, and that's may And that's
Speaker 1: why I think they probably will put a second round
Speaker 1: tender on him because they line up more with what
Speaker 1: you're saying where. But from my perspective, where I'm just
Speaker 1: a writer that watches him and sees him get sacks,
Speaker 1: I think he's worth the first round tender. And he
Speaker 1: makes the defensive lines so much better. I mean, just
Speaker 1: having him there, it just helps the Marcus Lawrence, everyone
Speaker 1: else I've he's his presence is just really good on
Speaker 1: the field. How how frustrating would that be if I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, last year you let Burry Church and Brandon Cargo.
Speaker 1: You're We're like, all right, we don't need that, We're
Speaker 1: not spending money on that. We're gonna bring in these
Speaker 1: young guys, and they've been pretty good, but you've seen
Speaker 1: some noticeable drive off. You don't have playmakers on this defense,
Speaker 1: do you. But they weren't playmakers last year either. Let honestly,
Speaker 1: would you agree with that? He's still saying, yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't have hendymakers on these defense. So you find this
Speaker 1: guy and develop him into and he's just tapping into
Speaker 1: what he can do. Like I said, he's still learning
Speaker 1: a lot about football. And he goes out, he gets
Speaker 1: seven sacks, he helps to Marcus Lawrence set a career
Speaker 1: high most sacks on this defense since twenty thirteen. And
Speaker 1: then you're just like, ah, we'll find somebody else. We'll
Speaker 1: get a second round pick in here. That's counterintuitive, but
Speaker 1: we're also forgetting one part of that. Step two. You
Speaker 1: issue the tender, a team goes out and they sign
Speaker 1: him to an offer sheet. The Cowboys have the ability.
Speaker 1: It's true, absolutely yeah, not just out the door. Right.
Speaker 1: That's that's a really good point that I didn't meant.
Speaker 1: Just so even and the Broncos did this with C. J.
Speaker 1: Anderson last year. The Dolphins offered him whatever eighteen million
Speaker 1: I think or something. The Broncos came back and We're like, no,
Speaker 1: we want you, we're keeping you, and they offered him.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much more. Was last year or
Speaker 1: maybe two years ago, I don't I don't even remember
Speaker 1: it ever happening. I'm just thinking after they knew that
Speaker 1: they didn't want Jhi E last year or right oh,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, Dolphin might it might have been two years ago.
Speaker 1: I don't remember off the top of my head, but
Speaker 1: I know they did that. They met like they've been
Speaker 1: Dolphins offer. Yeah, it hadn't happened much since I've been here.
Speaker 1: I want to say Keith Davis maybe safety. I think
Speaker 1: Saint striged, you know, and they matched it, but it
Speaker 1: hadn't been a lot. I just Cowboys actually do something
Speaker 1: kind of different when it comes to free agents, a
Speaker 1: restricted free agents that they really like, they'll they'll I
Speaker 1: forgot what they're what they do, but it's almost like
Speaker 1: they just extend him. They just buy out that restricted
Speaker 1: year and they extend him another year, so they still
Speaker 1: get the money in the pocket and they don't have
Speaker 1: to go through the restricted So they may do something
Speaker 1: like that's sign Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what they
Speaker 1: just did with Lyle because since he was undrafted free agent.
Speaker 1: He would have been restricted free this year and that
Speaker 1: they guys extended him, and now he is on that
Speaker 1: contradict at this point with David Irving. They can't do that,
Speaker 1: right because once the is it, once the season's over,
Speaker 1: they can't do anything until free agency begins. I believe so,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. They could do it, and they
Speaker 1: can do it, but they can do it before free
Speaker 1: agency begins. I think. So, yeah, you becomes you can
Speaker 1: negotiate with those guys. It never happens because by the
Speaker 1: time you get to January, you'd rather just go to
Speaker 1: March and see what you can get. But yeah, arn't. Second,
Speaker 1: I was actually sitting at a basketball game, Arkansas and
Speaker 1: Kentucky basketball game, and they did that with one who
Speaker 1: won that game Arkansas. Really yeah, thank you, Happy birthday
Speaker 1: to me, Phil Costa. I remember Arkansas. No, Phil Costa
Speaker 1: was a restricted free agent, and they did that, and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here at the game and I'm like about
Speaker 1: to watch Arkansas Kentucky and I'm like, wow, this is
Speaker 1: finally I'm waiting. It's like a bucket list thing. And
Speaker 1: they get it's called They're like, we got Phil Costa
Speaker 1: signed to a two year extension and just like this
Speaker 1: is not messing up my day, Like no somebody else
Speaker 1: whilst a lot of guys but not Phil. I just
Speaker 1: I get I joked about this like a week or
Speaker 1: two ago. I hope I'm not like sitting on a
Speaker 1: bus in Indianapolis in a couple of months and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: Taco really came on at the end of last year,
Speaker 1: so like we feel good about that, and like we
Speaker 1: got this draft pick, and it's like, can you build
Speaker 1: on what you have instead of just trying to get
Speaker 1: away just restart every year? And you know, Outsmart, I
Speaker 1: outthink yourselves seem like I'm I don't. I don't understand
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I mean, like keep you found a
Speaker 1: good player, keep him here is what I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: rather than letting guys walk because he's got another but
Speaker 1: if they were, if they were to let Irving leave,
Speaker 1: then they would be well, Taco had a great ye Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we feel great about Jeff. He was awesome in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Like I kind of agree with you, like actually build
Speaker 1: on it, like, actually take those guys you got the
Speaker 1: are good, keep them and then get more good players, right,
Speaker 1: I'm all and like, I love the That's my one
Speaker 1: of my favorite things about the NFL was like the
Speaker 1: schematics of trying to efficiently and cheaply build your team.
Speaker 1: But at some point got to bite the bullet and
Speaker 1: be like, this guy's a good player, and we're going
Speaker 1: to keep him here. Yeah, And I mean, like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't have to deal with him behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: but I think David Irving is a good enough player
Speaker 1: that he's worth that. And I think that that's a
Speaker 1: really big part of it. The Cowboys need to kind
Speaker 1: of figure that out too, because there's been a history
Speaker 1: of guys that that maybe you know, don't they're not
Speaker 1: all like Jason Witten, you know, they kind of do
Speaker 1: their own thing, and when that happens, they have to
Speaker 1: be really really good to get caught up in this.
Speaker 1: If aolitics that that happened around this organization, because it happens,
Speaker 1: you would obviously prefer that all your players be Witten,
Speaker 1: Lee and Dak Like if every player was like that,
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't have any problems. But they're not. But
Speaker 1: the thing, like a lot of the guys who aren't
Speaker 1: like that are still really good and so right, make
Speaker 1: it work. But I mean, that's that's it's just if
Speaker 1: if he wasn't rushing for sixteen hundred yards and jumping
Speaker 1: in the kettle and doing awesome, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it would be the Cowboys, they'd be scratching their head
Speaker 1: on what they want to do? Is he But he's
Speaker 1: so good that you do that. But there are guys
Speaker 1: that are not that good, that do their own thing
Speaker 1: and gotta go too. So it's all the time we
Speaker 1: have for today. When are we back Next Wednesday? Next? Yes,
Speaker 1: next Wednesday. Actually next week we will be starting up
Speaker 1: our once a week show, so so we're not even
Speaker 1: gonna do like a rap or anything. That'll be our raping,
Speaker 1: all right. So the schedule will be on Monday, we'll
Speaker 1: have Hanging with the Boys, On Tuesday, we'll have Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Wednesday is Cowboys Break, and on Thursdays we will have
Speaker 1: the Draft show. All the shows will be at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 1: Next week we'll be back on we'll start our Wednesday show.
Speaker 1: Start next week. Yeah, next Thursday. I wasn't I wasn't
Speaker 1: consulted about that, but you don't want that to happen.
Speaker 1: I think people are ready for it. I know are
Speaker 1: They are so excited? Yeah, all right, do you want
Speaker 1: to do the owners with your eighteen? Have a great
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