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I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four o'clock and 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: after four o'clock as always a podcast, John Cobelt's show 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: on demand, So if you miss anything on the radio, 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: that's where you can catch up. 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: You may have heard. 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: On Friday, a federal district judge Miami UUSI Mensaw Frimpong 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: ruled that the Trump administration cannot have its ICE agents 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: detaining people on immigration issues without reasonable suspicion that goes 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: beyond their race, ethnicity, or occupation. In other words, the 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: administration ICE was accused of profiling people, for example, seeing 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: a bunch of Hispanic workers at a home depot and 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: ICE then starting to interrogate and possibly detain. According to 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: this judge, that violates the Fourth Amendment. Since then, the 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: administration has filed an appeal, and we have the Los 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Angeles US Attorney Bill Asalion to talk about the appeal. 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: Bill. How are you good, John? 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: How are you? 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm good? 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: So the appeal has just been filed this morning, or 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: it's about to be filed. 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: Where are we in the process? 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we follow or notice of appeal yesterday and just 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: minutes ago we filed an emergency motion for a stay 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: with the Ninth Circuit asking the Ninth Circuit to intervene 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: and put a hold on this order until we can 28 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: have it fully briefed. 29 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: Now. 30 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: The order that the judge issued says that the agents 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: can't use race, ethnicity, speaking with an accent, being at 32 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: a bus stop or a day labor site or a 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: car wash, you know, the typical sites you might encounter 34 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: illegal alien men looking for work or loitering around. So 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: are you saying ICE is not doing that or that 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: if they do, it's protected, it's legal. 37 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot going on here, but let's just 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: be very clear. This is law fair by a bunch 39 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: of activist groups, including the ASLU, and their intentions are 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: to stop immigration enforcement in the LA area. That's the 41 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: purpose of this litigation. The basis of our appeal is 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: there's multiple reasons we believe this order street put on hold. 43 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: First of all, the way this thing was brought about 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: is completely improper. John, They tried to bring a lawsuit 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: a few weeks ago and they drew not a favorable 46 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: judge who denied their lawsuit. So what they've been doing 47 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: is filing smaller cases. They filed a couple habeas cases 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: where it's individuals saying they've been individually been harmed. Once 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 3: they found a judge they liked, they took that case 50 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: and they mended it into a class action case, which 51 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: is what this case is now. And they filed it 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 3: on the eve of fourth of July, where we had 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: very little time to actually respond in substance. But what 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: I can tell you is we do not detain people 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 3: without reasonable suspicion. So the whole premise of this lawsuit 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: is just false. What they did is they cherry picked 57 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: a few examples. They said, look, they violated these particular 58 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: people rights. We didn't really have a full opportunity to 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: present evidence on that. Based on those few cases, she 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: issued this ruling. And so we're appealing it because one, 61 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: we don't do this. We already follow the law. We 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: use reasonable suspicion when we detain anybody. And secondly, what 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: they're trying to set up here John is basically like 64 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: a federal court monitor. So this is more just in 65 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: a court order. She's going to be monitoring all of 66 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: the immigration enforcement activities. She could hold individual agents and contempt. 67 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: She wants us to basically submit regular reports to the 68 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: ACLU on all our detentions and the basis for detention. 69 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: She's going to order us to do specific trainings and policies. 70 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: This is basically the digicial branch getting involved in how 71 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: the executive branch goes about doing its work. 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: How does a judge think they can take over the 73 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: Department of Homeland Security and institute immigration policy? That is 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: that is the presidential power period. I mean, that's been 75 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: ruled over and over again by the Supreme Court that 76 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: it's up to the executive branch of the government to 77 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: decide how this operates. 78 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what we're arguing in our appeal. We're 79 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: taking it up. This is why we have appellate courts. 80 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: We disagree with the arguments in the district court. And 81 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: one of the cases we cite is the recent US 82 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: Supreme Court case where they said, you know, you can't 83 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: do these nationwide injunctions on these cases, and in our case, 84 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: this is a district wide injunction. The relief has to 85 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 3: be tied to the claims of the party. So here 86 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: the individuals who claim they were picked up by ice, 87 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: they're not at risk of being picked up again. There's 88 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 3: no foreseeable harm for them, so there's no reason to 89 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: have a prospective order ruled. But you know, they did 90 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: it anyway. So that's one of the cases that we're 91 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: citing to the Ninth Circuit is the recent Supreme Court 92 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: case which said that courts aren't supposed to be doing 93 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 3: these kind of orders anymore, these wide sweeping injunctions regulating 94 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 3: our conduct. That's the Supreme Court is said they don't 95 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: want to see those. 96 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: So the issue is firing filing these cases on behalf 97 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: of illegal immigrants who've been picked up or are these 98 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: people they turned out not to be here illegally. 99 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: They're either turned out not to be here illegally, or 100 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: they had some sort of status and you know, sometimes 101 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, that happens. But as soon as they 102 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: figure out what their status is and then they get released, 103 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: I mean, look, mistakes happen. The standard is reasonable suspicion, John, 104 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: It's a very very low threshold. It's lower than probable cause. 105 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 3: But if they have reasonable suspicion you're in the country 106 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: and lawfully, and you don't have proof on you that 107 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: you are, that you're here lawfully, then they can detain 108 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 3: you to ascertain whether you're here legally or not. 109 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: Is ICE picking people up off the street? What constitutes 110 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 2: reasonable suspicion? 111 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: Okay, So most of what we do, we do do 112 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: a lot of targeted enforcements, So we're out looking for 113 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: specific bad people that we know are in the country 114 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 3: here and lawfully. But there is also we are doing 115 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: general immigr enforcement as well that is happening. They do 116 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 3: operate on tips, on training, on experience, on work sites 117 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: where they know there's a high likelihood that people are 118 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: operating there who are not here legally. I mean, it's 119 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: not a stretch John that if you're a day laborer 120 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: at the home depot, you're probably not here lawfully. But 121 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: they don't just go off that. They do go and 122 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: they conducted an investigation, and a lot of it is 123 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: how people behave around Border patrol. You and I, John 124 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: probably would not start running when we saw a Border 125 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: Patrol agent throwing that out there. 126 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: Right, So you could start by saying, Hey, there's twelve 127 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: guys at the home depot and they're standing around and 128 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: it looks like they're day laborers. It looks like they're 129 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: here illegally based on why they're at home depot, right, 130 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: they're not walking in and out and buying supplies, and 131 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: then you show up and if they start to scatter, 132 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: that creates some more reasonable suspicion and that's all protected 133 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: under the law under the constitution. 134 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 3: Correct. Yeah, the courts have said reasonable suspicion is based 135 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: on the totality of the circumstances. It's a very nuanced 136 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: and fact specific inquiry. And when an agent detains someone, 137 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: they do prepare a report and they articulate what their 138 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: reasonable suspicion is. We didn't even have an opportunity to 139 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: present all that evidence of the judge because we again, 140 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: they filed this on the eve of fourth of July, 141 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: and we had very like I think we had one 142 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: or two days to respond to, like this fifty page 143 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: complaint that they've obviously spent weeks preparing against the government. 144 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: All right, BILLI Stanley, thank you for coming on and 145 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: explaining all this. 146 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: No, anytime, Yes, we'll go up on appeal. We'll see 147 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: what happens. 148 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you think the appeal case will be 149 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: heard and a decision will come down. 150 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: Well, we're asking for an emergency stay, so the court 151 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: can act at any time. They could act as soon 152 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: as today if they wanted to. But we will continue 153 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: doing immigration enforcement operations that comply with the law and 154 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: the court order. So I don't want people to think 155 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: that we've stopped working. 156 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: We're not, all right, And it only applies to the 157 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: central District here in the Los Angeles area anyway, right, yeah. 158 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, about half of California. 159 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, just a small little sliver. Okay, all right, Bill, 160 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: we'll talk again soon. Thank you, all right, thank you, 161 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: uh Los Angeles US Attorney Bill Asale. 162 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: We'll have more coming up on all this. 163 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 164 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: six forty. 165 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: That's where you enter the keyword. You know, they did 166 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: not give me a reading test before I got hired. 167 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: Oh that was a big mistake. 168 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: Winners will be notified by email. Check your drunk and spamful. 169 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: Do you think they would right before they hired? 170 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? Did they give you a reading test? They did not, Okay, 171 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: now I understand. 172 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: Listen to KFI for the winning keyword every hour every weekday, 173 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: from nine in the morning all the way to five 174 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: in the afternoon. Next chance to win is it two twenty, 175 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: which actually looks back I look back at that. 176 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: It's kind of odd, right, it is kind of. 177 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 5: You know, I don't even think did I even I'm 178 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 5: trying to even think if Chris Little had me do 179 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 5: a writing test. 180 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: No reading test, no writing test. No, you know what. 181 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 5: I have to just say, this is really funny. Back 182 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 5: in the day, when I was first hired here, many 183 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 5: many years ago, I sent in a cassette tape Chris Little. 184 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 5: He lost three different times. Finally when he found it, 185 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 5: he said, I rank you about an eight out of 186 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 5: a tent. 187 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: I'm a ten. You're an eight, he said, he was 188 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: a ten. Eight. That was back in the day. I 189 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: better not say anything. 190 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: He's a private citizen now now, he'd sue, okay, at ten, 191 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: all right, you're you're better than an eight. 192 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, John. And you read well too, oh, thank you? Okay, 193 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: all right. 194 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 2: We just had Bill asaleon and Bill is the US 195 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: Attorney for the Central District of California and campus encompassing 196 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: the entire Los Angeles area and well beyond and uh. 197 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: The Trump administration is appealing an l judge's ruling. The 198 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 2: judge is ma Ami OWUSI Mensa Frimpong. She it's a 199 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: she and a Biden appointee, and she has decided, as 200 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: Bill explained, that she will dictate immigration policy in the 201 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: Los Angeles area, not the federal government. And Bill went 202 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: through all the reasons I won't I won't repeat it. 203 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 2: We will be following up on this story later. 204 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: Uh. 205 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: The appeal is UH could be acted on at any 206 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: moment if this the ninth Quarter of Appeals makes a 207 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: quick decision. In the meantime, I want to give a 208 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: good amount of time to this story in the National 209 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: Review because this explains so much. I'm not going to 210 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: be repetitious about this either. Where you know, you just 211 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: constantly complain about how left wing the media is, how 212 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: how intensely misleading it is, how they outright lie. I 213 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: think if you listen to this show, you've accepted this 214 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: is a fact of life. However, it's impossible not to 215 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: have all the lies and distortions and the misleading statements 216 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: seep into your head. And as you know, there are 217 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: many people in this country that actually take the media 218 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: at its word and actually believe in it. They have 219 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: faith and trust. Now maybe it's only down to thirty percent, 220 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: but it's still thirty percent. The National Review, one of 221 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: their writers put together a story on all the different 222 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: ways that newspapers and television stations are misrepresenting the ICE story, 223 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: the immigration enforcement story. I'm going to go through these. 224 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to go through every one of them. They 225 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: printed in the National Review, so you understand what we're 226 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: dealing with. We're dealing with an entire institution in America, 227 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: the media that willfully intentionally lies and distorts and exaggerates 228 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: and downplays anything to do. Will specifically hear Trump's immigration 229 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: success and what ICE is doing just out and out 230 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: falsehoods or downplaying something to the point of extreme distortion. 231 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: Here's the first example. They used Cincinnati Inquirer, major newspaper 232 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: there headline Cincinnati children's chaplain detained by Ice. Now, what's 233 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: the picture in your head when you hear that a 234 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: children's chaplain is detained by Ice? Probably a nice, gentle, 235 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: elderly man who is roughed up and dragged away by 236 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: his heels by some over z bullying set of ICE 237 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: agents because maybe there was a paperwork error somewhere in 238 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: his past. No, this chaplain is an Egyptian. His asylum 239 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: status was revoked in December by the Biden administration. Biden administration, 240 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: the chaplain was flagged on the FBI's terror watch list 241 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: during a background check. The chaplain is claiming that his 242 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: fingerprints that led to his being flagged are not his. 243 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: Somebody stole his fingerprints. Maybe somebody cut off his fingers. 244 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: I don't know how that would happen. You see the 245 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: headline Cincinnati Children's chaplain detained by Ice, and it takes 246 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: a number of paragraphs, because it takes a number of 247 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: paragraphs before you learn that chaplain has filed multiple lawsuits 248 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: against the federal government, most of which have been dismissed. 249 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: One remains pending. That should be in the headline, Egyptian 250 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: chaplain on the terror watch list, arrested by Ice. That's 251 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: what it should say, not children's chaplain. That's just the beginning. 252 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: I mean that the Cincinnati Inquirer just outright lied by 253 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: not pointing out that this was a terror watch list 254 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: immigrant that the Biden administration wanted kicked out of the country. 255 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: Here's another one. The media uses the term Indiana man 256 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: to described an illegal forty three year old Mexican national, 257 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: and that's one of the tricks they use. They don't 258 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: write that, Hey, this guy is a Mexican illegal, or 259 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: even a Mexican undocumented, or or whatever country he's from. 260 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: Suddenly all these people get described by the state that 261 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: they're currently living in. If he's arrested in Indiana, he's 262 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: an Indiana man. He's not an illegal alien from Mexico 263 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: or Brazil or Sri Lanka or Ecuador. 264 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: No, it's from Indiana. 265 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: In other words, innocent American citizen beat up by ice 266 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: Do you remember what they called the guy who raped 267 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: and murdered Lake and Riley, a poor girl from the 268 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: University of Georgia. He was described as an Athens Man, 269 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: as in Athens, Georgia, because he lived and raped and 270 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: murdered in the city of Athens, and so the news 271 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: media wrote Athens Man. Ice cream man was used to 272 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: refer to a seventy one year old Lebanese national who 273 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: was deported to be route from Michigan for war crimes. 274 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: War crimes, and the media described him as an ice 275 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: cream man. In fact his crimes, he was accused of 276 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: torturing and killing two Irish soldiers way back in the 277 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: nineteen eighties, came to this country and started selling ice cream, 278 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: I guess out of the back of the truck. How 279 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: about the Russian national who was caught smuggling Petri dishes 280 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: into the United States. He was described as a Harvard researcher. 281 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: They found messages, Well, actually it was a she. They 282 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: found messages on her phone indicating she planned to smuggle 283 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: the materials and was trying to evade detection. I guess 284 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: this was some sort of contagious disease she had smuggled 285 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: into the country. How About an Indian citizen from India 286 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: whose father in law is a former high ranking Hamas official. 287 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: That person was described as a Georgetown scholar. How about 288 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 2: doctor recipient who came to the US when he was 289 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: four years old deported. Well, again, you got to go 290 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: through dozens of paragraphs before mentioning that the deported child 291 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: had been ordered removed during the Biden administration, presumably with 292 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 2: his family, that the parole document he received was issued 293 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: in error. Here's another one, veteran who's been in the 294 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: US since he was four faces deportation before, and you 295 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: have to go through many paragraphs before you find out 296 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: this veteran and fire on a house party, on a 297 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: crowd at a house party in Colorado Springs, hitting a 298 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: pregnant nineteen year old in the leg. You see what 299 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: it sees what I'm saying if you call them an 300 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: Indiana man, an Athens man, a veteran who's been here 301 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: since the age of four, and on and on and on, 302 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: and then way deep in the story you point out, oh, well, 303 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: he shot up a house party, hit a pregnant girl. 304 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: Oh he raped and murdered a girl at college. I mean, 305 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: the all time classic was that that that monster from 306 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: L Salvador, Abrego Garcia who Trump deported to the prison 307 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: in L Salvador, and he was described as a Maryland Man. 308 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: Here's a headline, US renews opposition to bringing Maryland man 309 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: wrongly deported to El Salvador. President Buclea rejects returning Maryland 310 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: man Trump officials mistakenly deported. Outrage grows over Maryland man's 311 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: mistaken deportation to El Salvador prison. He's never a Maryland 312 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: man who was an illegal alien gangster from El Salvador 313 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: who is involved in human smuggling and beat the crap 314 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 2: out of his wife repeatedly. Got more coming up. 315 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 316 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 4: six forty. 317 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: We are on every day from one until four o'clock. 318 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: After four o'clock John Cobel Show on demand the podcast 319 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: that's what you listen to and catch up on. You 320 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: catch up on what you missed. If you're just joining 321 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 2: us now, you already missed. Bill asaleon the US Attorney 322 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: here in Los Angeles. He and his office has filed 323 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: an appeal with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to 324 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: challenge a ruling by a district court judge saying that 325 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: the Trump administration here was engaging in profiling and that 326 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 2: they did not have reasonable suspicion to be rounding up 327 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: some of the illegal immigrants. The easiest example is at 328 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: a home depot, as Sali says, we're not doing that. 329 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: There are a number of factors that go into who 330 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: we arrest or detain, and they're fighting that ruling at 331 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: the US District at the Court of Appeals in the 332 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: Ninth Circuit. This judge Miami Awusi Mensa Frimpong, and she, 333 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: in addition to that, wrote another directive micromanaging, telling Ice 334 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 2: and Department of Homeland Security and Trump how you're supposed 335 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 2: to round up illegal aliens. Well, she doesn't set the policy. 336 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: Federal government does. The executive branch does. These are the 337 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: kind of judges that we're dealing with, a Biden appointee 338 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: from a couple of years ago. We're waiting to see 339 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: if that appeals decision is going to come down this afternoon. 340 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: It could now. 341 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: Second segment spent a lot of time on all the 342 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: lies and misleading headlines about the ice raids and the 343 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: arrests and the detainment and the deportations. For example, they 344 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: described one guy in Cincinnati as being a children's chaplain, 345 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: and it turned out he was an Egyptian citizen whose 346 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: asylum status was revoked by the Biden administration because he 347 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: was on the FBI terror watch list. 348 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: We had a fresh. 349 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: Example right here in the LA area this weekend. Kt 350 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 2: LA Channel five they pulled one of these misdirection plays. 351 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: If you go online, you look on x they tweeted 352 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: out California State University channel islands is calling for the 353 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: immediate release of one of their professors who is detained 354 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: during a protest on Thursday. 355 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: Now. 356 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: They put this tweet out on Sunday yesterday at eleven am. 357 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: By then they knew the truth but they didn't put 358 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: it in the tweet. The truth was he was detained 359 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 2: and arrested for throwing a tear gas canister at federal 360 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: law enforcement at ICE agents a tear gas canister, and 361 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: somehow Channel five or whoever wrote this social media post 362 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: didn't know that, or I suspect intentionally downplayed it to 363 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: make it look like you had educators being pulled off 364 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: the street by the Nazis in the Department of Homeland Security. 365 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: By the way, have you seen the mugshot of this guy? 366 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: I'm assuming this is a mugshot. What a kook. 367 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: You had a big smile. 368 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: A big smile, bad teeth though. One thing when you 369 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: show off your teeth like that, they are yellow. A 370 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: couple of them are brown. The guy has a brown smile. 371 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: He's got wild hair, oversized glasses, bugged out eyes, and 372 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: a scraggly growth of beard. He looks insane. I thought 373 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: this when I first glanced at this, I thought it 374 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: was a story about a homeless guy. I did, like 375 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: a crazy drug addict, guy that committed some kind of 376 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 2: terrible crime. And then I look and see it's one 377 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 2: of these idiot protesters. And then I see he's a 378 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 2: cal State Channel Islands professor. Well, we got an actual 379 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: televised story from Channel five KTLA reporter Carlos Soceto. I 380 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: think by this time they caught up as to why 381 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: he was detained, So play it. 382 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 6: The professor is being hell behind me in isolation of this. 383 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: According to his attorney. 384 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 6: As you mentioned, he was arrested last week protesting. 385 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: Oh ray that was occurring at a farm in Camera Rio. 386 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 6: But US officials are now accused being that professor of 387 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 6: throwing a tear gas canister at law enforcement. 388 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 7: Many of my students are undocumented, and many of their 389 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 7: families are undocumented. It's my responsibility to protect them, and 390 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 7: so I've been patrolling the city streets following armed mask 391 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 7: thugs trying to kidnap my neighbors. 392 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: Wait, it's not that. 393 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: This guy says he's got illegal alien students in his class, 394 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: and we're paying for this. Cal State Channel Alans obviously 395 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: is a taxpayer paid college, right, so we're supplying the 396 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 2: tax money. He's got a legal alien students. We're paying 397 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: this guy's salary, and now he's his own. His own 398 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: vigilante is a vigilante un running around to try to 399 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: interfere with federal officials. He's taken it upon himself to 400 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: throw a tear gas canister. This guy's employed by US, 401 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: he's working for US, and he's throwing tear gas ca 402 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: miss at federal immigration agents. 403 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: Back that up and play this thing again. 404 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 7: It's my responsibility to protect them, and so I've been 405 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 7: patrolling the city streets following armed masked thugs trying to 406 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 7: kidnap my neighbors. 407 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 6: That's video of Professor at Jonathan Caravello speaking out against 408 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 6: the Trump administration's immigration enforcement crackdown during public comment at 409 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 6: last week's council meeting Incomerio. The CSU channel Islet's professor 410 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 6: was detained during the immigration raid at Glasshouse Farms on Thursday. Caravello, 411 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 6: a US citizen, was there protesting when he was arrested 412 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 6: by authorities. Many of his supporters, including the campus, call 413 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 6: his arrests unlawful, claiming that Caravello was peacefully protesting when 414 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 6: the situation escalated. They're demanding his immediate release. 415 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 8: Now, we spoke with one of his colleagues and his attorneys. 416 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: Did they mention the tear gas canister? 417 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: Yet they did at the beginning At the beginning Okay, 418 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 2: not not emphasizing it much though. Now it's quoting the 419 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: other people at the college saying this is an unfair risk. 420 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: You imagine they're law enforcement officers, They're like cops, They're 421 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: like sheriff's deputies. You can't throw a tear gas cannion. 422 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: What do you think is going to happen? If you 423 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: do that. That's a federal crime. You can go to 424 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: federal prison for it. 425 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: What the hell? 426 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: Now? 427 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: Now the people at the at cal State. 428 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: Channel Islands, they're protesting that this nutbag was taken in play. 429 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 8: Some more colleagues and his attorney after she was finally 430 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 8: able to meet with him, she says he's being treated 431 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 8: like a high risk violent criminal, being kept in isolation. 432 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: The professor was protecting his students. 433 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 3: He did share with. 434 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 7: Me that he was not trying to interfere with any 435 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 7: of the investigation that was happening. 436 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: He was simply there to help support and so he. 437 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 6: Feels that his arrest was unjustified. 438 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 9: He is just such a gentle person and an amazing colleague, and. 439 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: He's a passionate speaker. 440 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 9: But I could not imagine him him being in any trouble. 441 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 6: Carvello is a well known community activist who says many 442 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,239 Speaker 6: of his students are undocumented, so he was exercising his 443 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 6: First Amendment right to protest the ongoing raids. However, US 444 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 6: Attorney Bill Asali put out a statement saying Carvello was 445 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 6: not kidnapped by federal agents. He was arrested for throwing 446 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 6: a tear gas canister at law enforcement and is facing 447 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 6: serious federal charges. 448 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 8: Now things got ugly when protesters. 449 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: Closed a second. 450 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: This is exactly what I was talking about in the 451 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: previous segment. Why did Channel five and this reporter Carlos 452 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: Soceido downplay that the US Attorney is filing a case 453 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: that he threw that, this Jonathan Caravello through a tear 454 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: gas canister at ice agents a federal crime, very dangerous 455 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: to do that, and it was buried under an avalanche 456 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: of character witnesses testifying to how wonderful and gentle and 457 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 2: communities civic minded and organized, and he's protecting his students. 458 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: It's like that is not his job. He's a professor. 459 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: His job is not to interfere with federal investigations. These 460 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: people have lost their minds. They have lost their freaking minds. 461 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: They think they're now vigilantes against the federal government and 462 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 2: that they're justified in what they do so they can 463 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: injure or kill ICE agents and it's cool. And then 464 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: according to Channel four, there's a vigil being held for 465 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: this whack job, a vigil Sunday in front of the 466 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: Tention Center in downtown LA. They were demanding the release 467 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 2: of Jonathan Caravvello. Well, if he gets convicted, he's going 468 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: to be a federal felon and he's going to be 469 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: locked up in a federal prison. 470 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: What a bunch of nies. 471 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 472 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 4: six forty. 473 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: John Cobelt Show ron every day from one until four o'clock. 474 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: Follow us at John Cobelt Radio and social media. We 475 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: are less than seven hundred followers to hit until we 476 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: hit thirty thousand, So let's go to it. 477 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: Less than seven hundred to hit thirty. 478 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: Thousand at John Cobelt Radio, at social media. After two 479 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: o'clock on social media. After two o'clock, we are going 480 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: to talk with Michael Monks from KFI News. There is 481 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: a new homeless count, the twenty twenty five homeless count 482 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: that they did in February slightly postponed because of the fires, 483 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: and we're going to see what. 484 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: The new numbers are. Michael will tell us about it now. 485 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: Uh, we just played a Channel five story. Channel five 486 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: had had posted on on x a couple of lines 487 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: about a cal State Channel Islands professor a real freak 488 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: nut job, and the line said that cal State Channel 489 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: Islands calling for the immediate release of one of their 490 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: professors who was detained during a protest on Thursday, and 491 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: then didn't have a single word as to why he 492 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 2: was detained. It wasn't to take away his First Amendment 493 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: rights of free speech and the right to protest. It 494 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: was because he threw a tear gas canister at ice agents. 495 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: So we went to the audio of Carlos saida because 496 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: that was the thing I just read. Was was a 497 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: post and Carlos say it briefly mentions the tear gas 498 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: charge at the beginning. 499 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: But then the bulk of the story was. 500 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: Is testimony from cal State University adults and students saying 501 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: how wonderful this guy is and how much he cares. 502 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: And it's complete with a clip of him testifying before 503 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: some government body as to why he does this, and 504 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: he thinks it's his job now to. 505 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: A normal person. 506 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like I sound like an idiot because 507 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm explaining something obvious that any normal person would understand. 508 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: But look at all these lunatics. 509 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: A tear gas canister thrown at somebody could hurt them 510 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: very badly. 511 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: And clearly. 512 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: If you look at this photo, this guy looks just 513 00:31:50,200 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: absolutely insane, just unhinged. Anthony Caravello, I've also seen Caravovevello 514 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: depending on the media account. 515 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: The media accounts are so bad. 516 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if they're written by AI or they're 517 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: written by some sixteen year old interns. 518 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. But there's so many. 519 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: Have you noticed this stepper, so many misspellings, so much 520 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: just gibberish in the copy. 521 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: I have noticed a lot of crap. Yeah, there's a 522 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: lot of crap. 523 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: They have very young, very inexperienced, and untalented people who 524 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: are type it, and sometimes the information is wrong or 525 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: they're emphasizing the wrong part of the story. Carlos Orsato, 526 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: and I don't know, did he write this story? Somebody 527 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: wrote it for him? Why is ninety percent of the 528 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: story about what a wonderful character this professor is and 529 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: then at the very end, at the very end, he 530 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: reads Bill A. Saley's official statement on why they're pressing 531 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: charges against this lunatic. Now, I don't understand why the 532 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: Channel fied news department was the first news department in 533 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: Los Angeles. When I got here, it was considered one 534 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: of the gold standards of local news, just filled with 535 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: many famous reporters and anchors. And now they do this 536 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: piece of garbage story where it's mostly mostly a tongue 537 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: bath for a lunatic professor and very little time spent 538 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: on the dangerous felony that they say he committed. 539 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. 540 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 2: That's a complete version of the news process, a complete 541 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: bastardization of what you're supposed to do as a news reporter. 542 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: And again, I don't know if it's Carlos Sosto, somebody 543 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: wrote for him, there was an editor who got involved, 544 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: or a producer or what the hell. 545 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: Is going on? 546 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: But it's not just him and Channel five, it's all 547 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: the channels. It's Channel seven. A few weeks ago, remember 548 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: we talked about the father and son who was deported 549 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: from Torrance, and they did this whole sob story. They 550 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: even interviewed them in it was the country they were 551 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: deported to, somewhere in sentral America. And then it turned out, oh, 552 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: they've been deported twice before, twice before by the Biden 553 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: administration in the last few years. This was their third deportation. 554 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: But they didn't they didn't mention it in the Channel 555 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 2: seventh story at all. It's such intentionally false information by design. 556 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 2: So I'm wondering, what day, because I know Channel five 557 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: used to do one of the best jobs I'd ever 558 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: seen in news. What day did somebody at Channel five 559 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: get up and say, Okay. 560 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: Here are the new rules. 561 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 2: We're going all woke here now, we're going all resistance 562 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 2: against anything connected to Trump. We're going we're going against 563 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 2: We're going to do cheerleading for illegal aliens. We're gonna 564 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 2: do cheerleading for the violent protesters, the criminals. They should 565 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 2: be doing an expose on how Churlie got thirty four 566 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: million dollars of our tax money to help incite and 567 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: encourage the riot. That's what they should be doing a 568 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 2: Channel five. What's gone wrong there? What kind of insanity 569 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: has gone wrong? So I'm supposed to get up in 570 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: the morning and watch the Channel five Morning News or 571 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: watch their new newscast or I think they got news 572 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 2: running like seventeen hours a day. It seems I'm supposed 573 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: to watch them and think, oh, I'm getting a straight 574 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: story here, I'm getting the full truth. What's with the 575 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 2: incessant SOB stories either about the immigrants or the character 576 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 2: studies of the protesters. 577 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: These are violent protesters. I heard. 578 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: Somebody what was I listening listening to today? Somebody in 579 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: the Trump administration or an ice absolutely beside himself. Oh, 580 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: it was a former Border patrol official, obviously beside himself 581 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 2: at the violence of these protesters because they're throwing rocks, 582 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: and they're throwing bottles, and they're throwing tear gas canisters. 583 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: And he said, you know, somebody's gonna die here, somebody's 584 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 2: gonna die. You've got this is so violent and barbaric 585 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 2: and wrong. And all these people ought to be arrested 586 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 2: and put into federal prison for a long time, and 587 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 2: instead they're being glorified by by all these writers and reporters. 588 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I'm the journalism is being completely 589 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 2: destroyed by the woke generation. There is no possible way 590 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: I can turn on Channel five tomorrow, especially if I'm 591 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: watching an immigration story and believe a single word they say. 592 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: And one of the things is I don't know what 593 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: they're they're omitting. I don't know what's missing from the 594 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: story like. 595 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: This guy. 596 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 2: Well, I'll just go by the post one more time. 597 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 2: Cal State University Channel Islands calling for the immediate release 598 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: of one of their professors who is detained during a 599 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: protest on Thursday. No mention of the tear gas can 600 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 2: he threw at the Ice agents, which is why he's 601 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: being detained in a federal detention center and he's going 602 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 2: to be charged with federal crimes. Channel five does not 603 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 2: put that on their X post. 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