WEBVTT - Enemies with Benefits

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Show Kaddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Arm Strong and Dedicating and he Arms Studio, sn.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey dinning in that room, people in the bowels of

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<v Speaker 1>the Armstrong and Getty Communications Compound, And hey y'all, today

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<v Speaker 1>we're under the tutelage of our title of our show,

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<v Speaker 1>the Iran War is enemies with benefits?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, yuh want to bomb each other for a while?

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<v Speaker 2>Or if you prefer don't look now California, America's stupid estate.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe New York? Wow? What explain the enemies with benefits?

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<v Speaker 2>To me? That's a clever term.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't say you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't bomb each other for a while? Alton, what do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Calls him and says, hey, yup, you mind if I

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<v Speaker 2>take out a few of your ports? Sure, well, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>hit your allies. Then you'd send it. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days later, you don't see each other for a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>So ran is hit? Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Seven ships in the last three days trying to go

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<v Speaker 1>through the straight twelve sailors that are either injured, dead,

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<v Speaker 1>or missing at sea. According to a report out today,

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<v Speaker 1>that's enough to make a lot of insurance companies say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how about you don't send that boat through there if

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have somebody die and all the imagine the paperwork, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Weig will not take a lot to close this tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently it takes a threat and a threat has been

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<v Speaker 1>made manifest. Yeah, that's something we will talk more about

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<v Speaker 1>that later. And Trump did an interview and talked about

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<v Speaker 1>bomb on their bridges and infrastructure again, which he has

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<v Speaker 1>said several times. So either he means it or he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess we'll find out.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hate to start with a tragedy, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was just looking at it. That ship that went down

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<v Speaker 1>in the San Francisco Bay area between Alcatraz and the

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Gate Bridge.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I missed that.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened? Oh last night? It was actually a memorial service.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody had died and they wanted to do some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of memorial service. Sprinkle the ashes out in the bay.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you know we live we broadcast from northern California.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I was there just the other day and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just glorious there. I mean that that people take

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<v Speaker 1>cruise ships underneath a Golden Gate bridge out there by

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<v Speaker 1>Alcatraz all the time anyway, big giant wave, hits boat,

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<v Speaker 1>flips over, people drown It's it's it's ugly, very ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>Stories. That's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I don't remember. You know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get pretty windy out there. I don't remember. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>in flip giant boats rough out there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've never seen that myself. It's a bay, for

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<v Speaker 2>goodness sakes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Yeah, we had getting back, getting back to the

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<v Speaker 1>straight and the the you know, the threat and the

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<v Speaker 1>closing of the strait and the rest of it. As

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I would talk about that for four hours,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know most people don't want to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm struck by, and I'm trying to come up

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<v Speaker 2>with a metaphor or a historical perspective on a situation

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<v Speaker 2>where it will take enormous effort to stop an opponent

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<v Speaker 2>whole only has to do a very little to render

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<v Speaker 2>that enormous effort moot asymmetric. Yeah, I mean, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>asymmetry of it is. Again, I'm struggling to come up

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<v Speaker 2>with an example, a suitable example. Of course, we are

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<v Speaker 2>in one of the first eras perhaps in human history

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<v Speaker 2>where the idea of total war was seen as a

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<v Speaker 2>super terrible, undignified're just a savage, in humane because in

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<v Speaker 2>the past, if you know, a superpower was faced with

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<v Speaker 2>this situation, you would just pound somebody into compliance.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, whether you were a Genghis Khan, or the Roman army,

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<v Speaker 1>or the French or the Germans or the English, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on who had the upper hand at the time. Spain

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<v Speaker 1>had the upper hand on France yesterday apparently, or the

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<v Speaker 1>Persians or the Spartans for that matter. Right, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way you would do it, and that's why it was.

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<v Speaker 1>We had that same asymmetry going on in Iraq and Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 1>which made it so difficult. We'd have troops out there,

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<v Speaker 1>we had rules of engagement. They just had to make

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of cheap, crappy bomb that you could set

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<v Speaker 1>off with a cell phone to blow some people's legs off,

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<v Speaker 1>which is horrifying. And what do you do about that

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<v Speaker 1>unless you're willing to just lay waste like has happened

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<v Speaker 1>throughout human history. The most powerful force just lays waste

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<v Speaker 1>until you stop doing that. Right, But that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>we're willing to do or the world will tolerate anymore. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. There hasn't been a good way out

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<v Speaker 1>of this situation yet. It'll tolerate it if we make them.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, does the American electorate to have

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<v Speaker 1>the stomach for that?

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<v Speaker 2>The answers probably know. I would just remind you all

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<v Speaker 2>of Sherman's incredibly gentlemanly and eloquent letter to the leaders

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<v Speaker 2>of Atlanta saying war is hell, War is misery, and

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<v Speaker 2>the kindest thing we can do is to end it

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<v Speaker 2>as quickly as possible, and that's what I intend to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, I'm not going to call off the dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>On the contrary, I'm going to be cruel to be kind.

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<v Speaker 1>You also have the unique situation of fighting an opponent

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<v Speaker 1>who doesn't mind dying. That's a fairly unique deal, too, true.

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<v Speaker 2>They think it's a good thing, right, and one could certainly,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not sure this is relevant to the discussion

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<v Speaker 2>we're having, but it's certainly relevant to the politics. Point

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<v Speaker 2>out that, you know, the whole uh war with Iran

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<v Speaker 2>in this shape was not a war of necessity. Knocking

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<v Speaker 2>the nuclear programs back way back was certainly this necessary,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, taking out their whole leadership and calling

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<v Speaker 2>for the people to rise up in the streets and

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of it was. Oh, that was an interesting gamble. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to the National Review podcast and Noah Rothman,

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<v Speaker 1>who we had on the air a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to spin it in such a way that

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually a positive.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing going forward. He could be right. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>He could be right, but I don't know. We will see.

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<v Speaker 2>I always darkest before the dawn, Jack, it's always darkest

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<v Speaker 2>before it's totally black.

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<v Speaker 1>We get two percent of our oil coming through the Strait.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bigger deal for the rest of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>way bigger deal for the rest of the world than

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<v Speaker 1>it is for us. That's one interesting part of this

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<v Speaker 1>is we started the war, the Strait was opened before

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<v Speaker 1>we started the war. The war closes, it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>have much effect on us. It has a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>effect on Japan and China and Europe and lots of

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<v Speaker 1>other people, but not us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I disagree. There are and I've never used this

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<v Speaker 2>term before in my life. This is exciting. There are

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<v Speaker 2>knock on effects. Jack. Oh, No, I didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't feel good, just because if it strangles the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the world. We're part of the world economy,

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<v Speaker 2>and it may not impact us as quickly as or severely,

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<v Speaker 2>but it'll impact us for sure, especially as oil reserves

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<v Speaker 2>are running dangerously low. According to experts I have read.

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<v Speaker 1>You would think the rest of the world would want

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<v Speaker 1>the straight open, like really want it open.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they are so flabby and unused to action.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where to start. That's me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to an expert on the top. I'm flabby

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<v Speaker 1>and used to an action.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So well, Plus you know, we've we've got a

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<v Speaker 2>significant military force there, so you know, if the if

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<v Speaker 2>Japan decided you know what this is or righteous cause

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure exactly what that would look like anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think we may well find out, because we

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<v Speaker 2>they everybody absolutely between a rock and a hard place.

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<v Speaker 2>The path out of this is to say it's unclear,

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<v Speaker 2>is to well to underestimate the murkiness of the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I s that Iran keeps firing on ships. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they're good.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I haven't convinced you, But go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Why weren't they better off just taking the money, dragging

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<v Speaker 1>their feet on the nuclear stuff while they tried to

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<v Speaker 1>make a bomb in that secret mountain hideaway that we

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<v Speaker 1>saw pictures of in the New York Times over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't they do that? They have decided control of

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<v Speaker 2>the Strait of Horrmus is their future. It's their nuclear bomb,

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<v Speaker 2>it is their superpower. They must cement it. That is

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<v Speaker 2>their only goal right now. Surely we are in charge

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<v Speaker 2>of the straight period. That's their only goal.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the chances the world allows that to happen? I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's zero. We're back to the asymmetry problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Though I agree with you in principle.

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<v Speaker 2>But do does the quote unquote rest of the world

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<v Speaker 2>have the stomach to do it's going to be necessary

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<v Speaker 2>the asymmetry problem if.

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<v Speaker 1>The word, If the world isn't willing to take on

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<v Speaker 1>those nut jobs in Iran to keep a major waterway open,

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<v Speaker 1>then forget about Taiwan and a bunch of other places.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way you're taking on China if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>willing to take on the ragtag bunch that is, whoever

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<v Speaker 1>those nut jobs are in Iran?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? I agree? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we really are into a new era, flabby

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<v Speaker 1>and unused to action.

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<v Speaker 2>Practically the whole world. Pox Americana has been wonderful, wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>for like every human being on earth for the last

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five years, the Great American led international order. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's made everybody soft.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what a bunch of euro countries feel. Convinced them

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<v Speaker 1>that you can retire fifteen and take eight weeks vacation

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<v Speaker 1>and not produce anything, right, because you don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>spend money on military. I just saw France's economic growth numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I think their economy is going to grow by like

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<v Speaker 1>zero point four percent this year or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>barely a tall as we're going to grow, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three point six or whatever. And it's just, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>Euros are dying. They couldn't even beat Spain in soccer yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't score a single goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no kidding, nice job, France, Vivola, you suck.

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<v Speaker 1>Spain looked really good though, Oh I watched it every minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then England Argentina today, which I'm actually excited about.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for that. What is that game? It's

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<v Speaker 2>it a weird time, I don't know, middle of the night. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like in the afternoons. Let me figure that out.

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<v Speaker 1>So the localistics, So we've had a lot of security

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<v Speaker 1>all around the country for the soccer matches going on

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<v Speaker 1>because of you know, any big event there's always a.

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<v Speaker 2>Worry about terrorism or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But in particular, they they announced that by far they've

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<v Speaker 1>got more security for Argentina England today because of the

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<v Speaker 1>animosity that has existed for so long that you told

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<v Speaker 1>us about yesterday, which I had no idea of. If

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have told me about rivals, I would have never

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<v Speaker 1>thrown out England in Argentina. But the end of God,

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<v Speaker 1>the goal of the century, the Falklands War hatred is that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're tremendous security around that thing. Apparently I should

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<v Speaker 1>tell that story about when I went to a soccer

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<v Speaker 1>match in where I was near a soccer match in

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<v Speaker 1>Siena between Ciena and Florence. I mean, that's what soccer

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<v Speaker 1>is like for the world. We don't care about soccer

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, so we don't have this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. But the rest of maybe you go, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a beer and a hot dog and say that

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<v Speaker 1>was fun, you go home again. Yeah, let's start to

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<v Speaker 1>show officially much to talk about today. I'm Jack Armstrong,

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<v Speaker 1>He's Joe Getty on this it is how did it

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<v Speaker 1>already get to be? Wednesday, July fifteenth of the year

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six, War Armstrong the getting we approve of

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<v Speaker 1>this program.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go, let's begin officially according to the f

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<v Speaker 2>SEC rules. Rags at Mark One.

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<v Speaker 3>Research that said to me, they use the African fighters

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<v Speaker 3>mostly as cannon fodder. They come over, they're often not

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<v Speaker 3>well trained, and in any case, they then forced them

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<v Speaker 3>towards the front line because they want to use them

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<v Speaker 3>in an assault wave. They want to send this wave

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<v Speaker 3>of bodies forward to try and exhaust Ukrainian and troops

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<v Speaker 3>and ammunition.

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<v Speaker 2>A different horrifying conflicts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Russia has been advertising to the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the world, the poorest people in the world that hey,

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<v Speaker 1>come to Russia and you get a job or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get there and your job is you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the military, and they send you to the front. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's where those statistics came from from the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times a couple of weeks ago, where the average life

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<v Speaker 1>span of people who land once you get to the

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<v Speaker 1>front twenty minutes. Twenty minutes so you're some African guy

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<v Speaker 1>you answer an ad saying, hey, honey, if I'm away

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<v Speaker 1>for six months, it can work as a like mowing

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<v Speaker 1>parks in.

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<v Speaker 2>Russia and your family support us for years. Right right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go do it. And then they go and

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<v Speaker 2>they put a gun in your hand and a gun

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<v Speaker 2>to your head and say, yeah, attack that village.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure they even put a gun in your hand.

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<v Speaker 1>You might just be running at the Ukrainians. Why would

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<v Speaker 1>you waste a gun on somebody's gonna last twenty minutes?

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<v Speaker 1>God dang it, that's all. He takes a certain sort

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<v Speaker 1>of person to be able to do that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>to force people to do that, to be in charge

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<v Speaker 1>and know you're doing that. Putin is an evil, evil bastard,

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<v Speaker 1>and those of you come down to the squad level, evil, corrupt,

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<v Speaker 1>murderous bastard, and those of you have been convinced that

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<v Speaker 1>Putin's standing up for Christianity or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not know what's going on there. You're fools.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>We got some more headlines and a bunch of other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to talk about. I see more stuff about the

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<v Speaker 1>Odyssey on TV every time I look up that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It better be good. It better be good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going this weekend. He'd better make it back home

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<v Speaker 1>and see his wife or I'm gonna be very unhappy.

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<v Speaker 1>Reviewer Richard Roper said it was one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>movies he's ever seen. I don't doubt if Christopher Nolan

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<v Speaker 1>does good stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, he's amazing. I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't picture Matt Damon in this role. But maybe I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a gifted actor. Give him a chance. Should have

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<v Speaker 1>let Russell Crowe shave his beard, lose a few pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'd have been a perfect different, different movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we'll get to that stuff next.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay here, so before we get some some other headlines,

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<v Speaker 1>just following up on the one we are talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bombing people back to the Stone Age or

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<v Speaker 1>making them submit or whatever, which is what Senator Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Cotton has been suggesting with Iran. Trump had a meeting

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<v Speaker 1>in the situation situation room yesterday with all the big players.

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<v Speaker 1>And you meet in the situation room when you want

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<v Speaker 1>things to be super super secret and not leak in

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<v Speaker 1>theory anyway. According to Axios, Trump appears to be willing

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<v Speaker 1>to escalate the war to cause enough damage that the

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<v Speaker 1>Iranian regime will submit and open the straight of horror

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<v Speaker 1>moves and accept the nuclear demands. They're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>most serious strikes yet on all kinds of different stuff. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they just leak, Mark Halprin says, that's the story,

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<v Speaker 1>you leak out on purpose to let the Iranians know

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<v Speaker 1>you're serious. Problem with that is, are you actually serious

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<v Speaker 1>or not? So?

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<v Speaker 2>So many hollow threats have been made. I suspect it's

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<v Speaker 2>time now for the ass weapon, but who knows. I've

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<v Speaker 2>thought that several times. Yeah, I know, I know, and

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<v Speaker 2>full of headlines for a US inflation rate was three

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<v Speaker 2>point five percent June, down for four point two percent

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<v Speaker 2>in May and below economists expectations, maybe the economists expectations

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<v Speaker 2>or two. But anyway, three and a half percent is

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<v Speaker 2>being hailed as good news. That's almost double the Fed's

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<v Speaker 2>intended rate of two percent. So I'm a little skeptical.

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<v Speaker 1>Well so the lowest since pre pandemic, which is really

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<v Speaker 1>quite amazing because the pandemic was six years ago now.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we lived with two percent our entire adult

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<v Speaker 1>lives and it's practically double.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said, Yeah, but three.

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<v Speaker 1>Point five is better than four point two anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to be an improvement.

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<v Speaker 2>Although a note of caution, that was.

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<v Speaker 1>The month, the calmest month in the current conflict with

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<v Speaker 1>Iran so oil prices and the resulting, you know, lowering

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<v Speaker 1>of many other prices.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going on that month. Who knows what the truth is? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's way too much reporting and it's too

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<v Speaker 2>dumb generally about economics. Point check has made a million times.

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<v Speaker 2>Kathy hokel oh I mentioned New York may be the

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<v Speaker 2>dumbest state. Kathy Hochel and ounsdays statewide moratorium on data

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<v Speaker 2>centers on Tuesday. You can't build any data centers in

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<v Speaker 2>New York reminds one of AOC's idiotic stands against that

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon distribution center that would have provided so many jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about this yesterday when the news broke, and

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<v Speaker 1>you seem to have some hesitation whether or not that's

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<v Speaker 1>even legal. Can a governor just cancel a big segment

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<v Speaker 1>of industry like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly? Can you have a moratorium on a sector

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<v Speaker 2>of society? I haven't read the law. I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>might be of above, you know, fifty thousand square feet

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But wouldn't it be like saying, we are not going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a dairy business in this state. We will

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<v Speaker 1>not be involved in the dairy business. No airplane hangars,

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<v Speaker 1>why exactly? Yeah, hardware stores?

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<v Speaker 2>About five? Where does the coverman get off in banging

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<v Speaker 2>a private enterprise that breaks no other laws?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everybody's just accepted this headline. I haven't heard any

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<v Speaker 1>analysis on this. Maybe we'll have to ask ten.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a Chinese woman in Las Vegas pled guilty to

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<v Speaker 4>marrying at least fourteen men at the same time. When

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<v Speaker 4>asked if she knew what she did was wrong, she responded,

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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was there just a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were dragging the strip in the classic Mustang

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<v Speaker 1>that I rented, me and my son, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>by all those little wedding chapels that they have, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to explain to my son about the

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<v Speaker 1>like Quickie Vegas marriage. But don't have a good explanation

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<v Speaker 1>as a why was that ever a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>How is it still a thing?

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<v Speaker 1>There are we probably passed eight different tiny little some

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<v Speaker 1>of them are drive through wedding chapels. I would assume

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<v Speaker 1>they're only open because they get enough business to make

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<v Speaker 1>it profitable. Why are there still so many people doing

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<v Speaker 1>the quickie Vegas wedding? Do you know anything about that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I really don't. I'd be guessing. I mean, my

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<v Speaker 2>guess is that a certain number of people, a certain

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<v Speaker 2>number of people don't want a big wedding, but they

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<v Speaker 2>want to have fun. They want the wedding to be

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<v Speaker 2>something just not the conventional, and Vegas will do it

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<v Speaker 2>for you with a dozen different varieties, I guess. And

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<v Speaker 2>they're supposed to go down to the justice of the

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<v Speaker 2>piece and signing papers and walking home, and enough people

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<v Speaker 2>do it to keep those places open.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all really small, like the size of a Dutch

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<v Speaker 1>Brother's coffee, and there's lots of them.

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<v Speaker 2>How many folks are still getting the Elvis themed wedding?

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<v Speaker 2>Like an Elvis imitator? I am personator does that because

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<v Speaker 2>that was big for a minute and.

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<v Speaker 1>Drove by that place. Yep, yeah, it still exists. There's

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<v Speaker 1>just one. Do they have some sort of some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of license from the Estate of the King or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, you'd think the First Amendment would protect faux

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<v Speaker 2>elvi from prosecution.

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<v Speaker 1>So every six months or so we change the clock

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<v Speaker 1>in this country, and every six months or so we

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<v Speaker 1>have an actual conversation about why do we do this?

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<v Speaker 1>And Congress voted overwhelmingly yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't even close.

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<v Speaker 1>It was three hundred some to one hundred sum to

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<v Speaker 1>make daylight saving time permanent. But the bill faces an

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<v Speaker 1>uncertain fate in the Senate. Why I don't understand the

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<v Speaker 1>resistance to this. Why I wish I were a congress person,

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<v Speaker 1>so I could have suggested an amendment, a sunset clause,

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<v Speaker 1>which is actually kind of funny if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>a sunset clause.

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<v Speaker 2>How about we try it for two years, and if

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<v Speaker 2>we decide we don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>It, we'll go back. It's not going to be a disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>We might just decide we like the other one better.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't a big deal. First of all, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand Arizona and Hawaii don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>There aren't stacks of dead bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't just run around screaming because the time didn't change.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know how to act.

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<v Speaker 1>It seem to be fine, right to let it go,

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<v Speaker 1>even do it for a year, and then everybody will

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<v Speaker 1>get together and say I thought it was okay, two

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<v Speaker 1>thirds of the world does not do it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>The third of the world does. Let's try it and

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. We'll either like it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Putting aside your trademark mirth Ah, what is is this

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<v Speaker 2>uniquely American or twenty first century or yet another example

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<v Speaker 2>of a very comfortable, wealthy people. We fear change. We've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this with the tax code a million times.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody who would design the federal tax code as it

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<v Speaker 2>is right now should be permanently held in a mental institution. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>our tax system is completely insane and bizarre. It's kafka esque.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet whenever a perfectly coherent, reasonable proposal comes along

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<v Speaker 1>to say, hey, how about we totally reformer text system

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<v Speaker 1>and do this instead, people go crazy about the small inconveniences, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard that. Mean to know, we should probably stick

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<v Speaker 2>with their courts.

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<v Speaker 1>This fear of change, that's got to be an evolutionary thing,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's we're alive and our kids are alive, let's

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<v Speaker 1>not mess with things, which is kind of the essence

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<v Speaker 1>of conservatism really, So it's got to be that. At

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, though the pace of change in the

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<v Speaker 1>modern world is is dizzying. But if we all get

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<v Speaker 1>together to vote for some everybody really hesitates. Well maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen it in your own life, your own household,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes I have to point out to myself or

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<v Speaker 1>my kids, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to change some minor thing, and then there's

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<v Speaker 2>the there's the but what of this? What if that?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if we don't decide we don't like you sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there and me sitting there at the dinner table, we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Go back to the old way. Nobody's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy absolutely anthropologically right. It's got to be anyway. The

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<v Speaker 1>vote was not even close in the House. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why they are going to be stumbling blocks from

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate to this major, major thing that they do

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<v Speaker 1>in Arizona, and tons of old people seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly fine with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that reminds me speaking of changes next door in

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<v Speaker 2>New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>They would go, well, they'll set themselves on fire if

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason we didn't change the clocks twice a year,

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<v Speaker 1>dogs lying down with cats, families turning on each other.

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<v Speaker 2>This will not happen. But I love the idea. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you know I should come up with a better form

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<v Speaker 2>of the question, when did Americans start voting for their senators?

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<v Speaker 2>Individual voters? When did they start voting for senator? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to go eighteen thirty, nineteen thirteen. Really, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>Senate was elected by state legislators until nineteen thirteen. From

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen eighty nine to nineteen thirteen, not a single American

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<v Speaker 2>casta ballot for the US Senate. Then the Seventeenth Amendment,

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<v Speaker 2>one of our were changed senatorial elections to the direct

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<v Speaker 2>popular vote following state level reforms in the years prior.

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<v Speaker 2>In June, a representative of Texas proposed legislation to repeal

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<v Speaker 2>the seventeenth Amendment, ending the direct election of senators that's

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<v Speaker 2>started in nineteen thirteen. As I mentioned repeatedly, I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to see this happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You would, Yeah, I was just trying to noodle it

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<v Speaker 1>through since I hadn't thought about it at all. So

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<v Speaker 1>in your one party states like California, it would end

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<v Speaker 1>the chance of any Republican being a senator.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, certainly, certainly would in the current you know state

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<v Speaker 2>of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Or the reverse in your rer read states. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make this a partisan thing, so you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the chance to like cast a blow against the

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<v Speaker 1>party in charge by getting one senator from the other

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:56.920
<v Speaker 1>party in your state, or something right right, the outside

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<v Speaker 1>of it would be I've lost my faith in voters.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be the upside, right right. The original constitutional

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<v Speaker 2>provision that the state legislatures choose the senators, uh, it

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<v Speaker 2>was not only not an accident, it was one of

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 2>the least controversial questions at the Constitutional Convention. There's no

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:22.919
<v Speaker 2>serious dissent to it. You want to hear the reasoning.

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 2>The Framers built a bicameral congress in which the House

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 2>would represent the people directly and the Senate would represent states.

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 2>As states with their own institutional interest in resisting federal encroachment.

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 2>A senator chosen by an answerable to a state legislator

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<v Speaker 2>had every incentive to defend that state's prerogatives against Washington

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:45.879
<v Speaker 2>and not be a populist not or a you know,

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Instagram fame seeker or whatever. Senator who needs a national

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 2>fundraising operation, a national media profile, and a national donor

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 2>base to win reelection often has little incentive to be

0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 2>just a fierce representative of their state. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So this sort of fits into the argument that I

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>brought up yesterday, which was floating around online over the weekend.

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.479
<v Speaker 1>There was a movement AOC might have brought it up

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody about how why does New York State, which

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>has New York City, have two senators when the population

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>of New York City alone is bigger than I think

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.400
<v Speaker 1>it was Montana, South Dakota, and North Dakota, Wyoming and

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Alaska added together, and that's ten senators. So and the

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:32.639
<v Speaker 1>argument would be what you just said there, because then

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>it's going to become the federal government or big cities

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:42.199
<v Speaker 1>making decisions for the entire country. Now, people who live

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 1>in big cities think that that makes sense for the

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>rural areas, but it doesn't being a person who's spent

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>most of my life in rural areas.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly, and the differing interests of the differing parts

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 2>of the country just you know, in general, it's in

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 2>genius design that the founders came up with, and we've

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<v Speaker 2>made the Senate more populist and more to quote James

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<v Speaker 2>Madison to something or other from the people's momentary passions.

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 2>The design is as it was originally said, a body

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<v Speaker 2>removed from the immediate popular passion would provide a defense

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<v Speaker 2>to the people against their own temporary errors and delusions,

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.879
<v Speaker 2>preserving public opinion's true interest until reason, justice, and truth

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:32.120
<v Speaker 2>can regain their authority. Meaning you know the off heard

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.639
<v Speaker 2>phrase that the Senate is the saucer that cools the milk.

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 2>It would be a very very careful, very slow moving,

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 2>deliberative body. It would be essentially a committee of all

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 2>fifty states getting together and saying, hey, let's be fair

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 2>to everybody here. I don't have to run for reelection

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>in a couple of years. In fact, as long as

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I represent Montana faithfully, I really don't have to worry

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 2>about re election at all. But in the you know,

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 2>in the interest of the people of Ontana, I've got

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.160
<v Speaker 2>to tell you, this scheme to drain all of our

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 2>water and send it to Los Angeles ain't good. So

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>that's what the Senate was supposed to be. I like it. Populism,

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 2>especially in the age of the Internet, I think is

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 2>a dangerous force. Absolutely. Yeah.

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>And then the Senate being staggered, so you can't have

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 1>a wave that really upsets the Senate as opposed to

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>the House where you can where if all of a

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>sudden there's a passion about a war we're in, or

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 1>a tax policy or whatever. You can have a giant

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.719
<v Speaker 1>wave happened within two years, right, which is just you know,

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>like you said, it's a really an ingenious system.

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:39.719
<v Speaker 2>As to the night were accidentally building a case here.

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Let me throw in one more thing real quickly, because

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the president now is the party which can ride cause

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:51.199
<v Speaker 2>wild wild swings in policy. And then you have senators

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 2>who right now, for populist reasons, are kind of afraid

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 2>of opposing the sitting president. I'll admit it. It's true,

0:27:57.600 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 2>you see it all the time. This would fix that

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 2>to a large extent. Ah, You're right.

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>In terms of the national elections thing, though, I was

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>reading some piece about how much more we have that

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.719
<v Speaker 1>now than we used to. You run on whether you

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>were with Donald Trump or Joe Biden. It used to

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 1>be all my whole life what you heard on the

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 1>like Tim Russert's style, meet the press or whatever. It

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>was all politics are local, and that's just not true anymore.

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 1>All politics is national, right, right, It's all about what

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>everybody's watching in the news and whatever hot YouTube video

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, including politics, which is bitterly needs to be local,

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>becomes national. Yeah, I mean, I got into a conversation

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of with a guy last night about the It

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>was a crazy drug addict, homeless person screaming their head

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>off violently near a group of people last night, and

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I went out and dialed nine one one and the

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>cops talked to him. And then the cops called me

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>back and said, yeah, we know this guy. We talked

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 1>to him all the time. And I mentioned to a friend.

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>He said, yeah, because they talk to him every day.

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Somebody calls nine to one one every day because he's

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 1>dangerous and scary, and they come and talk to him

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>every day, and he's still on the street, right, And

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of got into the whole idea because of our

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 1>whole nationalized politics, you've got this crowd that well, to

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:20.959
<v Speaker 1>do anything about the crime or homelessness or this or

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that would be make you a Trump person or not

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>a Trump person, which is a ridiculous way to look

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>at your local school, your local taxes, your local water,

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>your local whatever. You know, just like through the pandemic

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>with masks and schools and everything else is Trump order

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>against it.

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>That's the way we run everything now, right, or you know,

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 2>to put the shoe on the other foot if some

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 2>senator had been willing to stand up to Joe Biden

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, this is a gigantic, multi trillion dollar

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 2>COVID bailout is going to cause spiraling inflation. I won't

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 2>do it.

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't threaten to primary him, because the people of

0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 1>a state, the legislature of a state is say here,

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he stood up to you.

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>That's fine. We'll decide who our senator is not you

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 2>pouring a bunch of money into our elections and trying

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>to whip up the populace base. Blah blah blah. I

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 2>like it. Probably won't happen, but I like it. M

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I had a physical yesterday.

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Apparently you have to have one every so often according

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>to your insurance or something. I hadn't had one in

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>a long time.

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>You go to Trump's doctor, so he would declare you

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>the most physically fit talk show host in history.

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Here's the worst thing, and I'm not going to lie

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>about this for the rest of my life. Uh oh

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>my height. Oh you'd say, yeah, yeah.

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Freaking gravity man. No, you pastor my yr own business.

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>You had your dang old discs between your vertebrae. They

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 2>get squashed it's maddening. I know, I know. My doctor

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 2>actually said, he said, call yourself what you used to be. No,

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't cost anything. Jack's gone from six foot two

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 2>to four eleven. I mean, it's really really shocking. Had

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 2>to get rid of all his clothes. All right, the

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 2>pants I keep, I gotta like buckle him around my neck.

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 2>It's really kind of a jumpsuit.

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I can't go on those amusement amusement rights anymore. Right,

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm too short for It's terrible. Damn it.

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>We've got mail bag next they here, Are you serious, Hanson?

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 2>That's true.

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Mike Hanson, our executive producer, just sat in my ear.

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Trump just endorsed Mike Lindell for governor of Minnesota.

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Nobody. He threw back his head with a laughter after

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 2>he did it. You think I don't know? Oh wow, wow.

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'd like to like to meditate on that

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>announcement for a few minutes before I comment, yes, Michael will.

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Vote for me. Get one pillow free.

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>It might be two years ago today that I met

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Mike Lindell, because it was the beginning of the Republican

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:19.479
<v Speaker 1>Convention two years ago today, and I remember meeting him

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and he was not really much interested in talking to me.

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Mm, that's a shame. Here's your freedom loving quote of

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 2>the day, sent along by Brian in Beautiful Santa Rosa.

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Actually he writes on a number of different topics. Ah,

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 2>it's from Thomas Paine. When men he let women vote. Now,

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 2>so we'll say people, when people yield up the privilege

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 2>of thinking, the last shadow of liberty quits the horizon.

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, self governing people has to be a thinking people.

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>But oh boy, that's a can of worms. We don't

0:32:55.440 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 2>have time for the discussion mail bag canned worms delicious? Hmm.

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Drop us a note mail bag at Armstrong you gety

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>dot com. Brian also wants to weigh in on the

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 2>topic of the brand new, sweeping the West Coast computerized

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 2>AI dating platform, in which you don't look at pictures

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 2>and swipe right left, you align common interests and attitudes

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 2>and that sort of thing, which might actually be worse

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 2>than basing it on looks the more I think about it, Yeah,

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know's it's funny. Well, we'll let the comment.

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 2>There's comment, but he says it's funny how computer geeks

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>don't get the spark that's caused between two people when

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 2>they meet. I've had several in my life. Fortunately I'm

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 2>happy and Mary now don't have to go down that

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>missy messy road. But back when I was young, you

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 2>just had a certain something. Oh, we're right.

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.959
<v Speaker 1>There's a line from a counting Crow's song Edam dur

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>it sings and then he's heartbroken or whatever. But then

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>you look across the room and see the weight, the

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>way that light attaches to a girl. There's just something

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>that happens sometimes with people. You look at somebody and

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>then something what happens in your brain and you have

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>no idea why, and they're never going to figure that

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.280
<v Speaker 1>out with I don't think algorithms.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>And Alex actually quotes a lyric from one of my

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 2>favorite Rush songs Entre New which is friends for between us.

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I think it's time for us to realize the spaces

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 2>in between leave room for you and I to grow.

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Judy has her stuff, I have my stuff. We

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>have our stuff, and.

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 2>It works great.

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>It's quite possible that if you two listed your interests,

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the algorithm wouldn't put you together.

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Well right, yeah, uh, you know. In describing what makes

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 2>relationships work, there's obviously a biochemical reaction that nobody can

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 2>fully explain. And then her crazy and my crazy matchup.

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 2>There's that too.

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, that's the thing, no doubt about it. My

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 1>worst qualities match up with her highest levels of patience

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and vice versa. Right, Why it works well, You and

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I have talked about how like in dealer with corporate

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:05.359
<v Speaker 1>stuff in the business, we've never both been too mad

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>to deal with it at the same time.

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 2>We've never both lost our ass at the same time.

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.280
<v Speaker 2>One of us storms out and the other is certainly

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 2>willing to discuss this for whatever is not why, I

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know why it's not more male bag will sprinkle it. Well,

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 2>we will get to that. We got more stuff on

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 2>the way.

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