1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: First Day follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Because it's Christmas time, we're counting down the twelve first 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: day follow ups of Christmas has voted on by you. Yeah, 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: we countdown all the way to the number one first 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: day follow up that you voted on. Shane is on 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: the phone today for our first date follow up, and 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: he's getting ghosted by a girl named Carolina. So in 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: a few minutes we're gonna call her and see if 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get 11 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 2: him another date. But first, Shane, how long has it 12 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: been since you heard from her? 13 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 3: It's been probably like three weeks? 14 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 4: Okay, have you reached out to her in that. 15 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: Time, Yeah, like maybe four or five times. 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 5: That is a definite ghosting. 17 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 6: So I don't think that's why he's tell him that 18 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 6: he knows tell us about your day. 19 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Shane. 20 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I actually met her on Instagram. She just 21 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: slid my DMS and apparently we'd gone with the same 22 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: college together, but I didn't know her while we were 23 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 3: both there. But we chatted for probably a few weeks, 24 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: and then we met up at this bar. It had 25 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 3: arcade games in it. We played Papa Shaw and ski 26 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: ball and stuff. It was cute. What really attracted me 27 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: to her was that she was competitive about it. You know, 28 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: I love that and a girl. But we did that, 29 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: had some drinks, had some snacks, and it was a 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: great time. Like a lot of floriding, a lot of 31 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: touching going on. We talked endlessly, we laughed like it 32 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: really seemed like perfect date. Yeah, I mean, the only 33 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: thing that I can think of is that we both 34 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 3: ubered there, and then after the date we both went 35 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: in our respective ubers now. But before that, she pulled 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: me into the alley and we made out like pretty intensely, 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: and it escalated into like this weird dirty talk. I mean, 38 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: she told me to tell her that I was a 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: piece what she Yeah, she made me do this little 40 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: strip tease and she was filming this and. 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: We were okay with that. 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: It was weird, but something about it was kind of hot, 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: like I was kind of into it. She kept asking 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 3: me if I wanted more, and obviously I said yes, 45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: And then on a dime, it just completely. 46 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 6: Stopped because your cars came or just all of a sudden, 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 6: She's like okay, I'm done now. 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: No, it's like the switch was just turned off, and 49 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: she thanked me for the night. She gave me one 50 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: more kiss, and then she asked me if I knew 51 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: what I did, and I didn't know how to answer that. 52 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if it was some kind 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: of like kinky build up thing. 54 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was it. 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: I mean, that was the That was the last time I. 56 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 5: Talked to her, So, you know, you did something, he 57 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 5: did a strip tease. 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: Maybe I did something to her. 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, I have no idea. It was so bizarre. 60 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, and you've texted her and she said nothing 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 5: to you. 62 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely nothing. 63 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 4: I was just so invested. 64 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, what was like the last thing you did 65 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: before she just stopped. 66 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: I mean I think I just you know, said I 67 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: like to see her again, and I had a great time. 68 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: You had the usual end of day small talk. 69 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, like when you was a naughty 70 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: little boy, well transition, Yeah, Like was there something that 71 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: you did when she was like, okay, I'm done. 72 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: Like pull your pants up, proclaim. 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: No. The way that she actually it didn't seem like 74 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: she was reacting to something that I did. It just 75 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, she just stopped. I really have 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: no idea why right. 77 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: In the middle of your first date follow up? If 78 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: you're just joining us. Shane is on the phone, and 79 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: Shane is getting hosted by Carolina. So we're about to 80 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: call her and see if just alice why she's ghosting 81 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: and maybe get him another date. But first, Shane, why 82 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: don't you catch everybody up on your date with Carolina? 83 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? So in our on Instagram we went out, had 84 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: a great time in Arcade bar. Afterwards she had me 85 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: do like this weird kinky stuff in the alley and 86 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: I was pretty into it, and then she just suddenly 87 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: stopped and I have not heard from her since. 88 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 5: Okay, are you ready for us to call her? 89 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: I would want to know what I'm ready? 90 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, here we go. 91 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: She will go laugh. 92 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 7: Sorry, Hi, Hey, Hey is this Carolina? 93 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: H Yeah, this is the Jewbil Show. It's a radio show. 94 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: My name is Jewbul. 95 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 5: How are you Hi? 96 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: Am Nina Hi, and I'm Victoria. 97 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 5: Do you listen to the show? 98 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: I I do? 99 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, do you have any idea why we're calling 100 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: you today? 101 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: Well? 102 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: No, not really. 103 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 5: Okay, have you heard a first date follow up? Before. 104 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, well that's why we're calling you. 105 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: We got an email about you from somebody that you're ghosting. Okay, okay, 106 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: his name is Shane. 107 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 108 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 5: Really yeah. 109 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: Shane emailed us and told us about your date and 110 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: he said it's been three weeks since he heard from you, 111 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: and he wants to know if you'll tell us why 112 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: you're ghosting him. 113 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I am ghosting him because I got what 114 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: I want from him. It wasn't Oh my god, I 115 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: can't believe you actually called you. It wasn't. It like, 116 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: was not a real date. 117 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 5: Fore, it wasn't a real date. 118 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 4: What does that mean? 119 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: Okay? So I was literally just on Instagram. You probably 120 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: told you that that's how we met, But I was 121 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: and I saw himma, and I recognized him because he 122 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: screwed over my sister in college. 123 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: Oh how so. 124 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: My older sister, Elena and him were together and he 125 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: was totaled, just sleeping with anything that moved, just mind her, 126 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: making empty promises and all this crap. And she was so, 127 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, I've never seen her more heartbroken. It 128 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: was ridiculous. 129 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: This was in college. 130 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: Mm hm. 131 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 2: So you saw him on Instagram and set up a 132 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: date with him to get revenge. 133 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 5: Yes, Oh, so. 134 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 6: He never met you when he was dating your sister, 135 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 6: Like he had no clue who you were. 136 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: No, No, I said that. I told him that we 137 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: went to college together. He just went to college with 138 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: my sister. And I wasn't even like in the picture. 139 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: But I mean he believed it. I guess he believed 140 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: what he wanted to believe that a girl would want 141 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: to go out with him. 142 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: And girl, Okay, does your sister know that you did this? 143 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: She knows now, she didn't know before the fact, but 144 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to give it to her kind of like 145 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: a surprise because she's like fine now, I mean she's 146 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: over him because she's garbage. But I and I wasn't 147 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: even thinking about it. I just saw him on Instagram 148 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, I have to 149 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: do this. 150 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: So is that why you filmed him doing all kinds 151 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: of weird things in an alley? 152 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 6: Like which part is revenge? Because it sounded kind of hot. 153 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: He definitely seemed to think that it was because he 154 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: was really into it, but I that was for Yeah, 155 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: that was for the wrench. I showed my sister the 156 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: video and we were cracking up about it. It was 157 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: so freaking funny mm hmmm, and him saying I wanted 158 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: to make sure that I made him say that he 159 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: was a piece of. 160 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: Because he. 161 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 5: Thought that that was okay. He thought you were like 162 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 5: you know, that was your thing. 163 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like the grade him or whatever. 164 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the next time someone pulls out their cell 165 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: phone in an alley and wants to film me doing 166 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: weird things, I'm gonna question it. 167 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 5: Twice made it. 168 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: He made it so easy. 169 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: He made it so easy. 170 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 5: Thank you for being honest with us. Karlina. Shane is 171 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you. 172 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, seriously, I honestly I can't believe what 173 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm hearing. 174 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: Are you serious? 175 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 176 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: It's uh after like, do you just not really want 177 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: to talk after what you did to my sister? This 178 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: is just like if you heard someone I love like, like. 179 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 5: Seriously, that was years ago. 180 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: You are seriously crazy for doing. 181 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're the one who would do whatever 182 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: a girl tells you in an alley, So I don't 183 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: really know, Like whatever. 184 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: You talk, I was in college, Like I'm a completely 185 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: different person now. 186 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 2: You are. 187 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely psychotic Okay, seriously, you're gonna record me like that? 188 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: Who else has seen this video? 189 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: Ja? Oh my god, literally read this Me and my 190 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: sister calmed down. 191 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: Why should I believe you? No, honestly, Carolin, I should 192 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: get a warrior. 193 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god, please always overreacting literally like, 194 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: chill the f out? 195 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: What do you? You don't even know me? 196 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: No, I know what you're like, I know you did out. 197 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: How should I react to this? 198 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean, this is insane. It's insane what you did. 199 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: You don't check people like that, you have. 200 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, absolutely, sever. 201 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: Man, it's just calm and it's just coming back around. 202 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: You just can't handle it. 203 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: Go yeah, sure, sure, Wow you're real. I really missed out. 204 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: Huh Yeah, I mean I guess you did. You're having fun. 205 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: You're the one who did all who was so willing 206 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: to do all this stuff in the alley with me, 207 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: Like you didn't take any convincing. 208 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I thought I was on a real date 209 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: and it turns you're doing a revenge on me. It's 210 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: just absolutely crazy. 211 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: Whatever. You just can't you just can't take it. Don't 212 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: dis it happen if you can't take it. Look Oh 213 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: my god, I'm gonna delete it anyway. I already said 214 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: my sister, and I'm gonna delete it after I show 215 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: one of my coworkers. 216 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 3: You'll be hearing from me, okay, getting legal advice about this. 217 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 3: I'm serious. I'm dead serious. 218 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll hear from me on Instagram. 219 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, you can do anything, though, What does you say? 220 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 6: I willingly did a strip teeth and now it's public? 221 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? 222 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sorry, Shane. I know that sucks on both sides. 223 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 6: I don't know what to say. 224 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I guess I wont to net to video. 225 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: Then I'll just puld on to it and tase I 226 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: need to show it in court and we'll just entertain 227 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: me until then. 228 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: Yikes. 229 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 5: Well, Caroline, would you like another date with Shane? We'll 230 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 5: pay for it. 231 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: If you're paying for it, I'll just record him doing 232 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: more stupid stuff. That's fine me. 233 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: You're gonna hear from my lawyer. 234 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: Okay, cool. 235 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: You know what, I'm glad I cheated on your sister. 236 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 5: Oh is that the second date for you guys? 237 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? No way in hell? 238 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah I don't think so. He obviously doesn't learn from 239 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: his mistakes, all right them? Bye, then stripper Boy Jubile's 240 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: first date follow up