1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: And welcome back to our Christmas night program, George Nor 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: are you with you? Santra champlain with us here, Sandra, 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: let's go back to the book or review. How big 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: is that book? 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's pretty big, but it happens really fast. 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: People say it's like an omnimax theater where you see 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 3: all these little screens at the same time and you 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: can experience it all at the same time in three D. 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: But we remember, we remember George Bailey from It's a 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: Wonderful Life, one of. 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: Our favorite favorite movies shows. 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and talking about a life review. After we 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: relive life from maybe the negative things that we did 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: to impact others, we get to see the positive and 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 3: the ripple effect. So we never know how much our 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: actions or our words make a difference. And through that 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: we get to see, like George Bailey did about It's 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: a Wonderful Life and the difference that we made, and 20 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: if we could only experience that right now, and I 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: think we can do our own life review right now 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 3: and review the good things that we have done and 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: know how much we make a difference. That being human, 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: we really do impact the lives of others, and so 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: don't discount that. 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 2: Want to hear my Jimmy Stewart impression, Yes I do. 27 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: All right, here we go all along. Burn my mouth 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: just bading burn, Remember that I do. 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: Thanks George, he. 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: Used to do that when I was a kid. I 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: bet these Christmas stories of near death experiences miracles. In 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 2: the next episode of your podcast, Shades of the Afterlife, 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: you talk about one, don't you. I talk about several. 34 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: I got the honor of interviewing music producer Joshua Silverberg, 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: who had a near death experience, and he with a 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: group of people on the Angel Network. That's one of 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: the streaming apps you can get. There's a new TV 38 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 3: show called Miracle eight episodes, and it's about people whose 39 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: lives were transformed medically through medical miracles, through near death experiences, 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 3: through the power of belief, through prayer, through different things. 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: And these things aren't wishful thinking. Like this guy. He 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: was ready to die. He had COVID, he was hooked 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: up to all the devices they given the last rites 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: it was over, and in his moments he actually felt 45 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: this joining of the light. You can call it God 46 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: and he felt all is well in the world. All 47 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: he felt was incredible love and that he was being 48 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: cared for, and so he said, okay, bring it on, 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 3: you know, like no fear at all. But what happened 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: was is he reviewed and he of course he's married 51 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: with children and he wanted to live. And so when 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 3: he came back these black spots that had filled his lungs, 53 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 3: he was fully back to health. And that's just one 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: of the miracles. And there was so many others, even 55 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: people who have had near death experiences, that were sick 56 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: and they were fully healed. And it's almost like people 57 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: make this promise with whether you call it God or 58 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: the light or the universe, that in response to getting healed, 59 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: is just share the good word, that there is a 60 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: much bigger picture, that our lives are for a reason 61 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: to have faith and that we're always loved and to 62 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: make a difference while we're here on planet Earth. 63 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: It is truly remarkable, isn't it how it happens. 64 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 3: It is No one wants to die. There's a lot 65 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: to live for here. But when that moment comes, we 66 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: are surrounded by love, there's no fear. We get to 67 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: realize that our life here will occur like just a 68 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: dream because where we go and being reunited, reunited with 69 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: everybody is incredibly real. So our life is for a purpose. 70 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: I don't ever wish to speed up anybody's life because 71 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: there's a lot to detect and do here. And even 72 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: people who have near death experiences, the ones that might 73 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: have shortened their own life, realize that they missed. 74 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 2: Out on a lot. 75 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot to explore. The more times 76 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 3: we can experience different emotions, do new things, especially with 77 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: people we love. Our soul wants to grow, our soul 78 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: wants to learn, and I think that's why we're. 79 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: Here, Sander. Some people with dementia, for example, snap out 80 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 2: of it right before they die. How does that happen? 81 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: It's incredible. This is a lot of current research on 82 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: something called terminal lucidity. It's also called rallying. A lot 83 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: of hospice doctors and nurses calling it that somebody could 84 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: be checked out for a whole year mentally nothing left 85 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: in their brain, really no brain function left, and moments 86 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: or days before they pass, they can become fully alive, 87 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 3: even sit up in bed talking to their relatives, and 88 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: then they pass. This tells us and medical and scientific 89 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: professionals that our consciousness is not in our brain. Our 90 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: brain doesn't produce it. It comes in from somewhere else, 91 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: from the ethers, from the invisible world. And even if 92 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: the brain is dead, we are still alive. So we're 93 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: on the radio now and people are tapped into Coast 94 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: to Coast AM in all the different ways. And just 95 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: because our radio breaks or our computer or iPhone goes down, 96 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: doesn't mean Coast to Coast AM is not still transmitting. 97 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: And that's just us. Our consciousness is outside of our bodies. 98 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 3: We are connected I think, to all people, all things. 99 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 3: I think in this invisible world, we are connected. And 100 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: just because our bodies die, our energy continues on. So 101 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: having this terminal lucidity is just one of those facts 102 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 3: that mystify people that if we are just subject to 103 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: what's in our brain, you know, it just can't be, 104 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 3: you know, because our brain would die, This wouldn't be possible. 105 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: But it just shows that our human being is We're 106 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: like radio receivers. 107 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: You get many angelic stories going your way. 108 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: I do. 109 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: I do. 110 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: Lots of people believe in angels, and it's a good 111 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: time a year to believe in our angels and guardian angels. 112 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: But I think our guardian angels and our spirit guides 113 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: could all be one and the same. And I say that, 114 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: but I don't really know. We'll know when we cross over. 115 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: But there are wonderful stories of people talking to their guides, 116 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: talking to their angels, and having great things happen in 117 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: their life. I think each one of us has a 118 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: being that was a signed to us before we were born. 119 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: We met with them, we discussed what life was going 120 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: to be like. They said, I'm always going to be 121 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: here for you, but you're going to forget. So can 122 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: you imagine, George, that you have somebody that just has 123 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: looked at you with loving eyes since the day you 124 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: were born. You couldn't do any wrong, and they're always 125 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: here to support you. But I think the key is 126 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: we need to ask them for their support. They don't 127 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: just jump in. Sometimes they do life or death situations. 128 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of stories out there with 129 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: people that have had some terrible things happen and they 130 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: just felt like some divine being jumped into save them 131 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: from an accident. Say, but we have to ask, We 132 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 3: have to be in communication with them. But I also 133 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: think we don't just have them. We have our loved 134 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: ones who are by our side. We can do something 135 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: pretty fun when we transition to the other side. We 136 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: can multitask, So we could be learning the Kashik records, 137 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: we could be in that vast library discovering things. But 138 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: we can also see what our loved ones are doing 139 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: on Earth and be right there by our sides. So 140 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: there's a whole heck of a lot of support in 141 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: the unseen world around us. 142 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: But so some people, though Sandra, don't get saved. They 143 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: the worst happens to them. Why is that? 144 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: Is it the worst? 145 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 146 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: I can tell you, George. When my dad passed fifteen 147 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: years ago, we tried everything medically. I started reading about 148 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: the power of prayer. I was praying for a miracle 149 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: and nothing worked. He still died, Okay, So that became 150 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: the worst thing that ever happened to me. There was devastation, 151 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: with relationships breaking within my family. I had a dark period. 152 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: But the thing is, had that not happened exactly the 153 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: way it did, I wouldn't have gone on to write 154 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: my book to find more evidence of the afterlife. You 155 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: and I would never have met now between Shades of 156 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: the Afterlife, and I still have my YouTube channel with 157 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 3: interviewing people. I have about eight hundred unique episodes about 158 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: life after death. So Dad didn't get saved medically, but 159 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: here we are making such a big impact to the world, 160 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: giving hope and faith that not only is the afterlife real, 161 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: but help through grief and how to have a powerful life. 162 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: That I do believe Dad's by my side and he's 163 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 3: just helping out in a different way. So those bad 164 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: things that happen, maybe a couple of years down the road, 165 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: you think, oh my gosh, what was the worst thing? 166 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: Could have maybe not been the best thing. But you 167 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: never know who you'll talk to, who you'll meet, and 168 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: your story is just what they need to hear to 169 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: comfort them. 170 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm told. A couple weeks ago on Apple TV, somebody's 171 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: documentary called Evidence of the Afterlife popped up. 172 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 3: Yes, it's very exciting. For two years we've had it 173 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: in them making. It is about the world of evidential 174 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 3: mediumship George, and we're thrilled that it's on Apple TV 175 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: now and it'll be on the other streaming platforms. But 176 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: the reason we made it is your listeners will know 177 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: just how devastating grief is. It is I think the 178 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: most painful thing we human beings go through, especially when 179 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: a loved one dies and we go looking for answers. Now, 180 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: when somebody gets sick and they go looking for answers 181 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: and to help ease their pain, they go to a doctor. 182 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: Well what do most people do when a loved one 183 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: dies and looking for evidence of the afterlife. They'll go 184 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: to a medium. The problem is mediums are not trained 185 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: like doctors. They don't need to go to school, they 186 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: don't need to get a diploma, they don't need to 187 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: prove that they've learned for twelve years. 188 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: Or anything like that. 189 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 3: So people that have had their hearts broken have gone 190 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: to mediums and they've gotten some terrible readings they've gotten. 191 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to say a lot of 192 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: mediums are common artists. Well I'm sure there are, but 193 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: I think in the world today we have a lot 194 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: of untrained mediums doing the best they can, but they're 195 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: charging a lot of money, they're not bringing good evidence. 196 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: And so what the film is about, it's following two 197 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: great mediums, Carrie McLoud and Phil Dykes are their names. 198 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: Through what proper mediumship is what proper training is. When 199 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: you are a recipient of a reading, you are only 200 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: to say yes, no, or I don't know. You don't 201 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: feed the medium. You look for a medium that offers 202 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: a ten minute money back guarantee. If they don't give 203 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: good evidence in the first ten minutes the reading comes 204 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 3: to an end, you don't pay. So it raises the 205 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: level of mediumship. And we're hoping to inspire not only 206 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 3: people that go to mediums, but actual mediums that you 207 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: can have a level of communication with people in the 208 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 3: afterlife that you couldn't even imagine with really good evidence, 209 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: and all in all to help grieving hearts and to 210 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: help people know they aren't alone. Yeah, it's on Apple TV. 211 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 3: It's called Evidence of the Afterlife. 212 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: Thanks you're asking. Good for you, Santra. Do you find 213 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: that during the holiday season more and more people get 214 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 2: these incredible visitations of the loved ones from the afterlife? 215 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: I do, but I don't think it's because the veil 216 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: is thinner. There's a belief out there that during the 217 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: days of the Dead in October, around Halloween time are 218 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: around Christmas, that the veil thins. I don't think that's 219 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: the case. I think the veil is always thin. However, 220 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: we human beings are so busy we don't slow down 221 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: enough to feel our loved one's presence or talk to them. 222 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: We know it's a tough time of year with the holidays. 223 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: Not everybody is as rosy as I feel right now, 224 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: because we have loved ones who have passed or not 225 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: only that, some of us are alone. We're not with 226 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: our families. We're grieving that. You know, it's not life 227 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: like we thought it would be. And so this time 228 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: of year, people start talking to their loved ones more. 229 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 3: They in turn start getting these little signs, these little synchronicities, 230 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: whether it's some music playing or smell of Grandma's apple pie, 231 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 3: just seems to come out of nowhere. Our loved ones, 232 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 3: I think, make an extra special effort just to let 233 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: us know that we're not alone. But it takes us 234 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 3: having a little bit of a quiet mind and reviewing 235 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: some of the memories with our loved ones. And that's 236 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: to me, George, the best way we can be in 237 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: touch with our loved ones is take a walk down 238 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: memory lane. Emotionally think of the good times and how 239 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: it made it feel. It sends a signal to them, 240 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 3: and then if you just quiet your mind a little bit, 241 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, other memories of pop up things 242 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: you hadn't thought of in years, And those are just 243 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: little calling cards that our loved ones are saying, we're 244 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: right here with you. 245 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: Long I've had a lot of friends die in December. 246 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: I don't know why. It's weird. Is there something special 247 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: about that month? 248 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: I don't know about that, George. I don't think we 249 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: have our exit from this earth planned. Some people believe it, 250 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: but I don't really. But I do know that as 251 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: humans we can die of a broken heart. We hear 252 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: the story a lots of times when people are married 253 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: for sixty years and one passes and then two weeks 254 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: later the other one goes. I do think there can 255 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: be some melancholy around this time, and so this is 256 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: just me speculating, But if we are a little bit 257 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: down and maybe our health is failing, maybe just it 258 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: being this month gives people that final Okay, let me 259 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: check out. 260 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: Now, what do you recommend to people who are suffering 261 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: extreme grief about their loved ones that have passed on 262 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: to the afterlife. 263 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: Well, the first thing I recommend is to get a 264 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: little bit of grief education, just to understand and what's 265 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: in our control and what's not in our control. In 266 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: my book We Don't Die, I give more copies away 267 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: I think than I sell. If people wish to have 268 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: a free PDF copy on my website, We Don't Die 269 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: dot Com, you can have one. Chapter ten is about 270 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: grief and how to survive it. The fact that grief 271 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: is almost one hundred percent out of our control almost. 272 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: I say that because our biology actually changes when we 273 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: grieve George. We have healthy things called neurotransmitters that go 274 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: through our body, things like dopamine and serotonin. When we grieve, 275 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: those things are depleted massively, so we cry. We're in pain. 276 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: Our memory, our perception, all kinds of things change, and 277 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: of course we all feel that incredible pain in our stomach. 278 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: Some of us want to eat too much, some of 279 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: us stop eating, some turn to substance abuses and all that. 280 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: So I want to. 281 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: Educate people of what's happening in our bodies and what 282 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: we can do to raise that healthy level, and being 283 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: around people, being around pets, if you can, watching movies 284 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: or listening to music that may be made you happy 285 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: and in your high school days. There are different things 286 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: that we can do to lift that, but I think 287 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: once we first start understanding what grief is and what 288 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: is it isn't, what's in our control and then what isn't, 289 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: and then we can do things proactively to understand that 290 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: our loved ones are around. 291 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 292 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: one am Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot 293 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: com for more