Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to a very special edition of and TJ.
Speaker 1: It is over recording this December fifth, and that is
Speaker 1: a very special day for us. It is our one
Speaker 1: year anniversary for the podcast. We'll take. We'll take what
Speaker 1: we can get and we used.
Speaker 2: To do back in the day. It's just a slow class, slow.
Speaker 1: Class, right. Yeah, that's ye powerful.
Speaker 2: Meaningful anniversary. Wow. We have so many anniversaries we can't yeah,
Speaker 2: we can't keep them straight. But this is a can't
Speaker 2: believe we're sitting here a year later. I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not saying I can't believe we made it a year
Speaker 2: during the podcast, but I couldn't imagine I would ever
Speaker 2: have a one year anniversary of a podcast. That's not
Speaker 2: something that was in my mind not too terribly long ago.
Speaker 2: So it's it's it's kind of incredible. And it's been
Speaker 2: a hell of a year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know that, you know, but and anyone
Speaker 1: who knows me knows I am a big believer in celebrating,
Speaker 1: in celebrating anniversaries and birthdays, because these are the moments
Speaker 1: where we can not only feel good about where we are,
Speaker 1: but reflect back on how far we've come. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what I wanted to do just for a
Speaker 1: little bit today. I also wanted to point out we
Speaker 1: on social media, on our on our social media page,
Speaker 1: asked all of you to send in your questions and
Speaker 1: we are going to be answering your questions in just
Speaker 1: a bit. Andy, how many questions do we get.
Speaker 3: You guys got I would say at least I have
Speaker 3: fifty questions at least right here.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's a lot of questions. And those were
Speaker 1: curated questions. We haven't seen them, by the way, but
Speaker 1: we can't wait to answer what is on your mind.
Speaker 1: But we wanted to share a little bit about what's
Speaker 1: on our minds on this day. First. And you know,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about starting over, and I was looking
Speaker 1: up starting over in your forties and fifties, and so
Speaker 1: many people, maybe some of you listening, have had to
Speaker 1: do that or maybe will have to do it. And
Speaker 1: anytime you have to start over, it's a daunting task.
Speaker 1: And I think back to last December fifth, and there
Speaker 1: were tears, there were fears. I was scared and excited
Speaker 1: all at once. Do you remember how you feel or.
Speaker 2: Felt December fifth of last year. I was frustrated, I
Speaker 2: was pissed, I was nervous. That became fear later, But
Speaker 2: it wasn't a celebratory a day at the time, because
Speaker 2: we learned that they are still forces out there who
Speaker 2: are after us no matter what we do, and our
Speaker 2: success and our joy and our happiness and our future
Speaker 2: is threatening and upsetting to some people. So that was
Speaker 2: a big day for us a year ago, and others
Speaker 2: chose to try to attack us on that day. Even so,
Speaker 2: that's my honest answer. I was I and that's how
Speaker 2: I was that day, and that was all kinds. We
Speaker 2: had family stuff going on because of it. That was
Speaker 2: some ugliness on December fifth last year, and nobody will
Speaker 2: ever know, and we will never reveal, but it was
Speaker 2: a difficult day, a very difficult day, and it shouldn't
Speaker 2: have been.
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know how I forgot about
Speaker 1: all of that, but you're right, that marked so much
Speaker 1: of the day, and I do believe looking back, and
Speaker 1: we have had plenty of tough days in between, and
Speaker 1: we still will have plenty of tough days going forward.
Speaker 1: But it's what you learn along the way about what
Speaker 1: you're made of and how you get through these things,
Speaker 1: how we get through it together, which is challenging in moments,
Speaker 1: but it's what brings us together in the end. And
Speaker 1: I think, gosh, going through darkness gives you the perspective
Speaker 1: of how great it feels to be in the light,
Speaker 1: to be in the sunshine. And when you have those moments,
Speaker 1: man lean into them, celebrate them. But I remember once
Speaker 1: we got the first podcast launched on December fifth, then
Speaker 1: became the real challenge of Okay, we're gonna have one
Speaker 1: podcast a week. What do listeners want to hear from us?
Speaker 1: What do we want to share with listeners? What is
Speaker 1: our lane? Is it news? Is it interviews? Is it
Speaker 1: personal insight? You know, we had all of these questions
Speaker 1: swirling around, and we struggled initially with just coming up
Speaker 1: with one podcast a week. Remember staring at each other
Speaker 1: with our computers up at your dining room table, trying
Speaker 1: to come up with ideas and feeling like we didn't
Speaker 1: know what we were doing because we didn't know what
Speaker 1: we were doing.
Speaker 2: Well, I question still if we have any frickin' idea
Speaker 2: what we're doing. But this was a learn We are
Speaker 2: very adept at broadcasting. We are trained, we are seasoned.
Speaker 2: Right with those resumes, you can put us in front
Speaker 2: of a microphone, and we know what to do. If
Speaker 2: this was a case where we didn't actually know what
Speaker 2: to do before getting to the microphone, and then to
Speaker 2: some degree, we didn't know how comfortable to get on
Speaker 2: the microphone. We didn't know how. I can give you
Speaker 2: a hard time all the time about getting into broadcast modes,
Speaker 2: but this is one place you cannot do that, and
Speaker 2: we've experienced that as well. And we learned that in
Speaker 2: conversations we've had in this very studio that wow, there's
Speaker 2: a warmth here, there's an energy here. We got something
Speaker 2: out of this interviewee that we never would have gotten
Speaker 2: in a studio at a network. So there was a
Speaker 2: huge learning curve and I am very much comfortable now.
Speaker 2: But you talked about we struggled with one a week,
Speaker 2: and now we're up to god knows how many.
Speaker 1: Well, we're doing at least six a week, sometimes eight,
Speaker 1: and even this week because we're taping a few ahead
Speaker 1: of time, I think we're going to be doing nine
Speaker 1: podcasts this week. So that makes me smile and laugh
Speaker 1: and also want to go take a nap. What a
Speaker 1: difference in your makes one a week seemed like a
Speaker 1: daunting task, and now we're just churning out sometimes nine
Speaker 1: a week.
Speaker 2: But again, not too long ago, we were wondering. We
Speaker 2: were sitting around wondering when we would have anything to do. Again,
Speaker 2: we're longing for some like, Wow, nobody's gonna want to
Speaker 2: work with us, so what are we going to do next?
Speaker 2: We had those questions, and now it seems I know
Speaker 2: where you're coming from, obviously because I'm right next to
Speaker 2: you through it. But it seems odd to complain a
Speaker 2: single bit about being busy.
Speaker 1: Oh please, I'm with you. I'm with you. I you
Speaker 1: and I both said this from the beginning. Give us work,
Speaker 1: Let's be busy. That's where we feel our strongest. But
Speaker 1: I will say, and this is honest, I have not
Speaker 1: worked this hard since I was in my twenties and thirties,
Speaker 1: early on in my career, trying to prove myself, trying
Speaker 1: to work my way up the ladder up to network news.
Speaker 1: And so in a way, we are doing that again.
Speaker 2: No, I've always worked this hard.
Speaker 1: You did work harder than I did. It can work,
Speaker 1: But you know, for me, I had gotten to a
Speaker 1: place where I knew exactly what I needed to do,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just goodbye.
Speaker 2: I'm kidding, I'm sorry. I'm actually thrive.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I would say that now
Speaker 1: there was this new feeling of having to reprove myself.
Speaker 1: I can only speak for me, but I felt.
Speaker 2: That and still do, which is always a mistake. Exactly
Speaker 2: And when was the last time I gave you that line?
Speaker 1: Probably earlier today?
Speaker 2: That line you talked about it when I looked at
Speaker 2: you and I said, you have nothing to prove.
Speaker 1: You said that to me in the marathon when I
Speaker 1: was very upset at feeling weak and sick and not
Speaker 1: feeling strong and was worried about my time and worried
Speaker 1: about ruining your time.
Speaker 2: Nothing to prove to anybody.
Speaker 1: And that made my shoulders relax. On this podcast, either,
Speaker 1: can you remind me of that daily? Because that would help.
Speaker 2: I nothing improved.
Speaker 1: I do feel like that still, for sure, because.
Speaker 2: Well, where does that come from? I mean, what did
Speaker 2: your mom do to you early on in life that
Speaker 2: got you?
Speaker 1: He says that because just full disclosure here, my mom
Speaker 1: and dad are actually visiting this week and my mom's
Speaker 1: in the studio with us, so that was a little
Speaker 1: a little fun Pope at Mama Roeboch. No, I didn't
Speaker 1: feel that way until we went through what we went through,
Speaker 1: and then you feel like you have to rebuild something
Speaker 1: or you have to restart something, and we did, and
Speaker 1: with that came this feeling of having to reprove I
Speaker 1: don't know, not just professional worth, but personal worth. And
Speaker 1: on a personal side, I think back to a year
Speaker 1: ago and where we were, and that's phenomenal. We weren't.
Speaker 1: We didn't spend Thanksgiving together, we didn't spend Christmas Eve
Speaker 1: and Christmas Morning together because we were being respectful of
Speaker 1: where our families were. But this year we were together,
Speaker 1: all of us waking up in Thanksgiving morning, and that's
Speaker 1: the plan for Christmas as well. And that is a
Speaker 1: remarkable thing. And I learned I'm learning still always to
Speaker 1: be more patient. I wanted people to meet me where
Speaker 1: I was, instead of me being willing to meet them
Speaker 1: where they were, and so being patient and letting people
Speaker 1: find their way and accepting where they are. That's a
Speaker 1: huge part of the process that I learned that I
Speaker 1: know intellectually, but to actually put it into practice as
Speaker 1: a whole other thing. And yes, I'm hungry. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you can hear my stummach.
Speaker 2: You'll hear her stuff that was loud enough that it
Speaker 2: might have picked up to go buy it back and checks. Right,
Speaker 2: she's going through this whole thing. That's soliloquy. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you about a life.
Speaker 1: You know it's and it's not to say we don't
Speaker 1: have tough days. Still, we still have tough days. Everyone
Speaker 1: out there, I think, if they're being honest, is having
Speaker 1: tough days with their own selves and their relationships and
Speaker 1: what's going on at work. But my thing that I've
Speaker 1: been trying to do is I'm forcing myself to quiet
Speaker 1: my mind when it starts thinking too much about the outcomes.
Speaker 1: And that's my biggest problem, the outcome of this part,
Speaker 1: the outcome of our relationship, that can really send you
Speaker 1: into a mind spiral that isn't healthy. And so the
Speaker 1: point is to focus on the present moment, right.
Speaker 2: I've learned that and had to put that in practice.
Speaker 2: But it's it's really so they call it stop and
Speaker 2: smell the roses. If you whatever is going on in
Speaker 2: your life and your world, if you just stop and
Speaker 2: just look, make eye contact with the person in front
Speaker 2: of you and just listen to what they're saying. Just
Speaker 2: be in the moment, you amazed at how just everything
Speaker 2: else this life is just stay where you are it is.
Speaker 2: It's a hard thing to do. It's the easiest thing
Speaker 2: in the world to do. It sounds like, but it's
Speaker 2: it's very difficult. But I've been practicing that for a while.
Speaker 2: I think I got that from you originally one of
Speaker 2: the books. Yeah, I mean you probably gave me early
Speaker 2: on with either Michael Singer or Ekar Totley or one
Speaker 2: of those guys. But but yeah, stand in the moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just the outcome is not ever what you're
Speaker 1: gonna think it's gonna be anyway, So trying to prepare
Speaker 1: for it or manipulate it so that you can get
Speaker 1: what you want it doesn't ever work. But it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I was looking up today, like I said, starting over
Speaker 1: and gaining wisdom from having to start over, because a
Speaker 1: lot of times people don't start over because they want to,
Speaker 1: it's because they have to. And that certainly was our story.
Speaker 1: And I found the story and I want to read
Speaker 1: it to you because I found this to be so beautiful.
Speaker 1: This was on a reddit, like some reddit I guess,
Speaker 1: I don't know that I found and I just thought
Speaker 1: it was such a cool story. Once a long time ago,
Speaker 1: there was a wise zen master. People from far and
Speaker 1: near would seek his counsel and ask for his wisdom.
Speaker 1: Many would come and ask him to teach them, enlighten
Speaker 1: them in the way of Zen. He seldom turned anyone away.
Speaker 1: One day, an important man, a man used to command
Speaker 1: and obedience, came to visit the master, and he said,
Speaker 1: I have come to to ask you to teach me
Speaker 1: about Zen, Open my mind to enlightenment. The tone of
Speaker 1: the important man's voice was used, was one used to
Speaker 1: getting his own way. The zen master smiled and said
Speaker 1: that they should discuss the matter over a cup of tea.
Speaker 1: When the tea was served, the master poured his visitor
Speaker 1: a cup. He poured, and he poured, and the tea
Speaker 1: rose to the rim and began to spill over the
Speaker 1: table and finally onto the robes of the wealthy man. Finally,
Speaker 1: the visitor shouted, enough, you are spilling the tea all over.
Speaker 1: Can't you see the cup is full. The master stopped
Speaker 1: pouring and smiled at his guest. You are like this
Speaker 1: tea cup, so full that nothing more can be added.
Speaker 1: Come back to me when the cup is empty, come
Speaker 1: back to me with an empty mind. And that to
Speaker 1: me was such a beautiful way of putting out there
Speaker 1: that losing something, or even losing everything, actually can give
Speaker 1: you a fresh start. And when I was looking at
Speaker 1: these Reddit threads, someone talked about the story and talked
Speaker 1: about their journey of having to start over, and he said,
Speaker 1: my most important advice is empty your cup, leave your
Speaker 1: ego behind, and be open to learning from and collaborating
Speaker 1: with people half your age sometimes, but fill that cup
Speaker 1: with new experiences. And he said, this is difficult. It
Speaker 1: requires grit, determination, humility, and coping skills. And I have
Speaker 1: learned more about myself this year than I have any
Speaker 1: other year of my life, which is that I valued
Speaker 1: things about myself that were fleeting, that were from outside sources,
Speaker 1: that were about what I did or what I accomplished
Speaker 1: versus who I am and how I treat people and
Speaker 1: how I treat myself. And I had to admit that,
Speaker 1: and that was hard. And now you have to learn
Speaker 1: from it and grow from it and get excited about
Speaker 1: this new chapter where you actually can value relationships with
Speaker 1: yourself and with others above all else, because all that
Speaker 1: other stuff that you were valuing all that other stuff
Speaker 1: that you believed made you important or who you were
Speaker 1: or created your worth. It all went away. And when
Speaker 1: it all goes away, you're forced to actually just re
Speaker 1: examine everything.
Speaker 2: Well, it keeps us from taking that examination before it's
Speaker 2: taken from you. Isn't that the point is and that
Speaker 2: the hope right, You shouldn't have to have it taken
Speaker 2: away before you realize this isn't what you need or
Speaker 2: want or your identity in the first place.
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because, as you point out, I have
Speaker 1: been reading these books over the years. I was doing
Speaker 1: the work, so I thought. But it's very easy to
Speaker 1: do the work when you're coming from a place of
Speaker 1: empowerment or coming from a place of feeling like you're successful.
Speaker 1: So it's easy to say, oh, right, But then when
Speaker 1: actually the bottom drops out and then you actually have
Speaker 1: to put all that into practice, it's another story. It
Speaker 1: was for me.
Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Amy and Tjr. And your anniversary
Speaker 2: episode one year anniversary of this podcast. We launched it
Speaker 2: a year ago, can you believe it?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: I think we started off. Within the first few podcasts
Speaker 2: we had people ask us questions, so we had you
Speaker 2: will send us some more. And they've been coming in
Speaker 2: and our super producer Andy has curated a list for us.
Speaker 2: It's gotten it down to fifty. Now we don't think
Speaker 2: we're gonna get through all of the fifty. Well, it
Speaker 2: depends if they rabbit fire. But Annie, you tell us
Speaker 2: if you gave I they have names attached to them.
Speaker 2: By all means let us know, but less far away.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: The first question is a really nice one. It's very simple.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's not once you start answering, it's how are
Speaker 3: you guys doing?
Speaker 1: I would say good, but it depends on the day,
Speaker 1: you know, And we're doing better. And I feel like
Speaker 1: we are doing the work, because when you're in a
Speaker 1: relationship it requires work. And I see us rolling up
Speaker 1: our sleeves and sticking together and trying to figure this
Speaker 1: out and wanting to get it right. And why, you know,
Speaker 1: TJ is my best friend and he has been for
Speaker 1: a long time, and that is always for me, the
Speaker 1: best foundation to start from. And so I feel really
Speaker 1: good about where we are and I think we're going
Speaker 1: to get even better.
Speaker 2: Well that was that was a daunting answer.
Speaker 1: That was an honest answer.
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't there was some, Uh, well, we are
Speaker 2: apparently not doing as well as I thought after hearing
Speaker 2: that response, But the how are you guys doing? I
Speaker 2: would first answer, I'm happy and healthier than ever, and
Speaker 2: that's kind of it. I don't I don't know. I'm
Speaker 2: just in a mindset in a place where I appreciate
Speaker 2: everything that comes with it's a challenge, it's a blessing.
Speaker 2: Even the challenges are blessings and I get that. So
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not sleeping well. My ra ring
Speaker 2: has confirmed that I'm actually sleeping worse even than I thought,
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to deal with that. But I'm doing
Speaker 2: well all right.
Speaker 3: Next question is what is the significance of the ring
Speaker 3: around your neck? This listener says they sense a story.
Speaker 1: I don't know that we're ready to share that, DJ.
Speaker 2: It's around your neck, so I didn't know where I
Speaker 2: was gonna let you go first. But but yeah, I
Speaker 2: think maybe one day we will. We might reveal. I
Speaker 2: think somebody asked that last and we haven't given that
Speaker 2: up yet, so well, something will keep sacred. We're gonna
Speaker 2: hold onto that one.
Speaker 1: It was a nice try that we appreciate it.
Speaker 3: I love a tease.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: The next question is will you be on TV soon?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: I like that, Yes, we very much, We very much
Speaker 1: miss it. Okay.
Speaker 3: Next one is t J. How is your achilles doing?
Speaker 2: Not great? Oh man, I have a new issue now
Speaker 2: with the ligament on top of the foot. The I'm
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna be off of a four to six weeks.
Speaker 2: Doctor told me a lot of people familiar with what
Speaker 2: happened in Chicago couldn't finish that race because of an
Speaker 2: achilles And now I have a possible torn ligament in
Speaker 2: my foot, so not running for up to six weeks,
Speaker 2: wearing a brace everywhere I go, and so I'm on
Speaker 2: the mint but not running. Okay.
Speaker 3: Next question is who would you want to be with
Speaker 3: on a stranded island?
Speaker 1: Who would I want to be with on a stranded
Speaker 1: island or read it, on a deserted island? Okay, there
Speaker 1: we go. Uh duh, TJ.
Speaker 2: No, I'm trying to think of another and like, who
Speaker 2: would I prefer to be with? And now no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm digging here.
Speaker 3: Maybe like your three favorite people, so this way, Amy's
Speaker 3: one of them?
Speaker 1: No? Thanks? Is this because of the way I answered the.
Speaker 2: First question Obviously it's you. Obviously it's you. I'm just
Speaker 2: trying to it's such an obvious answer that I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think of what anything else come up? And I
Speaker 2: don't think so. So I get along with better than you.
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't want Sabine to be out there stranded
Speaker 2: with me, right. She needs to be in school, all right.
Speaker 3: The next question is what is your favorite way to
Speaker 3: spend a day off?
Speaker 1: Mmm? Okay, well, I would love to start my day
Speaker 1: off with a run. Then I'd love to go to
Speaker 1: the movies with TJ. A horror movie and then have
Speaker 1: a wonderful dinner where we're sitting out sitting at the bar,
Speaker 1: belly up and laughing about the movie and what we saw.
Speaker 1: And yeah, just the two of us, that would be
Speaker 1: a perfect day for me.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to take issue with anything in there.
Speaker 2: Maybe I would insert, depending on the time of year,
Speaker 2: an SEC football game.
Speaker 1: That would be great.
Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, the only other thing I would put in there.
Speaker 2: But we are very chill folks. We don't want to
Speaker 2: run around. We don't even go to a museum. We've
Speaker 2: been talking about a museum forever, but we just like
Speaker 2: to be together, just to have good food, have good drinks,
Speaker 2: sea good people, and enjoy good weather. That's u awesome.
Speaker 3: This next one is what's the craziest thing you've done
Speaker 3: in the name of love?
Speaker 2: In the name of love, I don't know if I've
Speaker 2: ever done anything in the name of love.
Speaker 1: I don't think we've thought what we were doing was crazy.
Speaker 1: But clearly choosing each other was probably the craziest thing
Speaker 1: we've done. But that wasn't a choice of doing something crazy.
Speaker 2: It wasn't didn't feel no, it did.
Speaker 1: Not at all.
Speaker 2: It was crazy well thought out of love. Man, that's
Speaker 2: a tough one. That's gonna take me a minute. In
Speaker 2: the name of the love.
Speaker 1: You could say, if you look at both of our lives,
Speaker 1: that the craziest thing we did was get married to
Speaker 1: twenty three. But I don't know that was in the
Speaker 1: name of friendship, same or duty or obligation. That was
Speaker 1: really in the name of obligation crazy though.
Speaker 2: Did you jump out of a plane? Did I make
Speaker 2: a surprise trip? Did I streaked down the Vegas Boulevard?
Speaker 2: That I did? I something? I did do all that
Speaker 2: stuff though, but not really. I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: To share with me when we get.
Speaker 2: Man that I'm the hate We got stumped this early.
Speaker 1: I know I can't if it comes to us, we
Speaker 1: will circle back. But right now that sounds so boring.
Speaker 1: But I can't think of something I did that was
Speaker 1: crazy in the name of love and it would probably
Speaker 1: be with you in some way.
Speaker 2: She said, what does that make us if we don't
Speaker 2: have anything? I mean, shouldn't everybody have that? It seems
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: No, okay, oh running a marathon, Emma saying running a
Speaker 1: marathon is crazy in the name of love. But you
Speaker 1: did I did.
Speaker 2: Oh, that wasn't crazy. Let me go on a limb
Speaker 2: here and stay with the guy I love who's bombity
Speaker 2: can't walk.
Speaker 1: Sorry, babe, I really trained hard for this. I'll see
Speaker 1: you love the medical tent.
Speaker 2: No, that was but thank you Amma forst.
Speaker 1: Suggesting that that was crazy. But that was. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: never even considered for one second not staying and not stop.
Speaker 2: We got to go back. Oh that was tough.
Speaker 1: I feel like it.
Speaker 3: Makes you seen and stable. It's not like you're throwing
Speaker 3: about windows doing crazy things like that.
Speaker 2: Wow, have you done anything like that?
Speaker 1: I've never even, like I know people burn letters. I've
Speaker 1: never done anything with.
Speaker 2: A key to guy's car.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Do you think that I know, got nothing
Speaker 1: even high school?
Speaker 2: Though I'm going back and back and back.
Speaker 1: I know I'm trying to think crazy. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Sad Well, this one's going different about love, but not
Speaker 3: as maybe crazy. But what has your perspective on love
Speaker 3: and how has it changed over the years?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: Change, Love is it's an it's not a passive it's
Speaker 2: an active verb. Right. You have to show someone that
Speaker 2: you love them. And I just don't think anymore that
Speaker 2: love is some feeling like I just get overwhelmed. And
Speaker 2: a lot of people say, oh, I just feed it,
Speaker 2: that that whole thing, that feeling is fine with some
Speaker 2: other things that have to come along with it. I
Speaker 2: think I've I couldn't imagine I look back soon where
Speaker 2: I am now. I can't imagine being at this point
Speaker 2: ever being interested in people that I dated previously, some
Speaker 2: folks I've dated previously, because it's just that doesn't make anything. No,
Speaker 2: of course we're not a match. Of course I'm not
Speaker 2: interested in that, and of course I'm not.
Speaker 1: So. Yeah, I've learned about love. I've learned how to
Speaker 1: love because now I know what love is it's not
Speaker 1: about you chasing the feeling of receiving love. It's about
Speaker 1: giving it without expecting something in return. And that sounds obvious,
Speaker 1: but when you're actually in a relationship, if you think
Speaker 1: about it, a lot of what we do is we're
Speaker 1: doing things so that we can get love back, that
Speaker 1: we can get something to make us feel good back.
Speaker 1: And it almost is with strings attached, if I'm being honest.
Speaker 1: But I've now felt like I know what it's like
Speaker 1: to love someone even when it's hard, even when you
Speaker 1: don't like them in the moment, or you're having a
Speaker 1: tough day with them, to say I love them anyway,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna and I'm going to act in a way,
Speaker 1: in a loving way, even if I don't feel it
Speaker 1: in this moment. And to me, that is love, and
Speaker 1: it is it's about the hard times. That's when you
Speaker 1: actually I feel like I know how much I love you,
Speaker 1: because even when it's hard, I feel so strongly and
Speaker 1: I have so many loving feelings towards you, even if
Speaker 1: I'm angry, hurt, or upset like that is a totally
Speaker 1: new feeling for me, and that to me. I was
Speaker 1: telling my mom this last night. Actually that that is
Speaker 1: something I have not experienced before, and that is why
Speaker 1: I do feel like this relationship I have with you
Speaker 1: is something I've never experienced before.
Speaker 2: Wow, well keep them coming, this is going well.
Speaker 3: Tell us about your Thanksgiving with Amy's family, TJ.
Speaker 2: No. No, I wasn't with Robox family really for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: I was with a Robox family a couple of weekends prior.
Speaker 2: They had a death in the family. Unfortunately we had
Speaker 2: to go back for but it happened that I ended
Speaker 2: up meeting the family for the first time at a funeral,
Speaker 2: And so I can tell you about that family, or
Speaker 2: I can tell you about Thanksgiving. It's funny. But Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: was great because we did have at least of course overseas,
Speaker 2: but Ava two of her friends, Ben Montgomery, who's been
Speaker 2: around I feel like I know her as well as
Speaker 2: anybody these days. And then Sabine and the two of
Speaker 2: us had a nice It was a wonderful, wonderful Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: And it was the first holiday that you and I
Speaker 2: have had a chance to spend together. But to have
Speaker 2: the girls there and just everybody knowing everybody, and the
Speaker 2: food was great, the games were great, and it was
Speaker 2: there was great.
Speaker 1: It was the first time either one of us had
Speaker 1: ever cooked with someone else like our partner and prepared
Speaker 1: the meal together. You did the turkey and the greens
Speaker 1: and then I did the sides, and that was like,
Speaker 1: that was really fun to be working alongside in the
Speaker 1: kitchen with the person I love. Like that was a
Speaker 1: really fun We had music playing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we had a great Thanksgiving. Now the it
Speaker 2: was it was wild. The meeting Robot's family. It was
Speaker 2: the circumstances. Again, it was unfortunate we were there for
Speaker 2: a funeral. But I did take it as a bit
Speaker 2: of a blessing, Like, what other opportunity were we going
Speaker 2: to get that I could see all of your family members,
Speaker 2: because we do end up Thanksgiving or Christmas would probably
Speaker 2: end up somewhere else, the girls somewhere, so it's probably
Speaker 2: not likely we get back for a big family thing.
Speaker 2: So I was I took it as a blessing to
Speaker 2: be able to meet everybody in the in the family.
Speaker 1: And when you say everybody, there were a lot of people.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of folks.
Speaker 1: My mom's one of nine, and all the siblings were there, Yes,
Speaker 1: all the siblings and all the cousins.
Speaker 2: Frank, David, Paul, Steven, Patty, Kathy, Oh my dear Annie,
Speaker 2: I love, There's Leslie. And then then that last one.
Speaker 2: I can never remember who is it. It's Johnny, of
Speaker 2: course that's her mom.
Speaker 1: That is impressive. You just like like totally went through
Speaker 1: all those names without any hesitation.
Speaker 2: I'm working on the spouses. I'm getting a few of them,
Speaker 2: and I'm the cousins and the kids next.
Speaker 1: That's that's impressive.
Speaker 3: Speaking of holidays, what are your plans for Christmas?
Speaker 1: So we because we have two New York City apartments
Speaker 1: that are fairly small, so the only way that we
Speaker 1: could all be together it would be too good a house.
Speaker 1: We got a house upstate. All the girls are going
Speaker 1: to be there. So this is momentous and historic and
Speaker 1: excited it is. And we have a big fireplace. That
Speaker 1: was the big That was the big draw. We had
Speaker 1: to find a house with the fireplace. So we are
Speaker 1: we are going upstate. We're just gonna kind of hunker
Speaker 1: down and play games and make hot chocolate and make
Speaker 1: memories really more than anything, all right.
Speaker 3: Next question, was there a moment early on where you
Speaker 3: thought the podcast was a mistake.
Speaker 2: Oh? No, I actually never thought that. I think that's
Speaker 2: part of it, right, grit, perseverance, that thing. There's something
Speaker 2: in us. I don't know, but there was never a
Speaker 2: moment where we we got frustrated plenty, but there was
Speaker 2: never a moment where we thought we couldn't figure it out.
Speaker 2: And we kept again, Andy, you know, as you own
Speaker 2: these these text messages and our team they they're getting
Speaker 2: stuff and we're firing off questions and please somebody help,
Speaker 2: and so we are. We were always committed to figuring
Speaker 2: this out and giving it a long run to not
Speaker 2: just get frustrated. We are are people listening, Why didn't
Speaker 2: they react to this? And they reacted to that. We
Speaker 2: had to get away from that and just let it
Speaker 2: be a steady, steady beat. And now we literally have
Speaker 2: three podcasts that we put out regularly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I the whole time, the first time we
Speaker 1: sat in front of the mics, it felt right, It
Speaker 1: felt good. I think even when things are swirling around
Speaker 1: us outside of this room, when we come into this
Speaker 1: room in front of the microphones, I feel at home,
Speaker 1: I feel at peace, I feel happy. I always felt
Speaker 1: like this was almost a haven for life to be
Speaker 1: able to come and hear and either talk about other people,
Speaker 1: or talk about issues, or do these fun quizzes, or
Speaker 1: even talk and share things that are happening in our lives.
Speaker 1: It feels right, so I never questioned. It always felt
Speaker 1: like the best way to build a foundation back, to
Speaker 1: restart our careers and to take them in a direction
Speaker 1: that we hadn't anticipated but are really enjoying. All right.
Speaker 3: This next question is what is your favorite and least
Speaker 3: favorite thing about podcasting?
Speaker 1: Mmm.
Speaker 2: I think my least favorite is being the inability to
Speaker 2: get guests in the studio all the time, because people
Speaker 2: are just all over the place and it's hard to
Speaker 2: catch them so and it's so easy to just get
Speaker 2: somebody in front of a computer while come into a studio.
Speaker 2: But I think I miss having it in the times
Speaker 2: we've had it. We've loved having people in studio and
Speaker 2: we've had them plenty, but I think I wish we
Speaker 2: could have more face to face time with our guests.
Speaker 2: That's my barber least favorite. The most favorite, I guess
Speaker 2: the freedom. I mean we have a freedom now in
Speaker 2: all we put out to to shape the outline the podcast,
Speaker 2: but also just the information we think we should be delivering.
Speaker 2: And we didn't always get that freedom. And now I'm
Speaker 2: comfortable that we have enough experience in the business to
Speaker 2: actually know how to put a rundown together, to know
Speaker 2: how to point out to the viewers, what's the viewers,
Speaker 2: the listeners, viewers coming to the listeners, what I don't know. Editorially,
Speaker 2: I've appreciated being editorially in charge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that has been a new thing for us. That's
Speaker 1: that has been very gratifying actually to be able to
Speaker 1: make those choices as a producer. My least favorite part
Speaker 1: of podcasting is the fact that it's not live. I
Speaker 1: miss live broadcasting, and I love live broadcasting. With this guy,
Speaker 1: there was so much fun and energy to knowing you
Speaker 1: can't you can't edit it, you can take it back
Speaker 1: and you've got to be on your toes and there's
Speaker 1: something really fun and enner about that. So maybe that
Speaker 1: means radio or doing something on television, but I do
Speaker 1: miss the live element. So that's we try to do
Speaker 1: that as much as possible here in the podcast. We
Speaker 1: don't edit hardly anything, but there is that thing when
Speaker 1: you know it's live, it's just got a little different.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I know you miss it too.
Speaker 2: Oh but it gives you that. I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: a it's a rush knowing no matter what comes out
Speaker 2: of your mouth, you gotta go with it. And it's
Speaker 2: just that's why when I think you, I think you'll admit.
Speaker 2: I'm not throwing you under the buzz here, but I
Speaker 2: think you'll admit once you get into a recording mode
Speaker 2: you stumble. You're like, oh, let's do it again. You
Speaker 2: keep messing up because yeah, it totally gets in your
Speaker 2: head and I'm the same way. But when it's live,
Speaker 2: there will not be a stumble.
Speaker 1: I love that I missed it, and my favorite part
Speaker 1: of podcasting just to be because I do like what
Speaker 1: you said in terms of having the editorial control, but
Speaker 1: I like that it's just you and me. I like
Speaker 1: that you and I get to sit across the mics
Speaker 1: from each other and just do what we do and
Speaker 1: it's not really about the news of the day. Necessarily,
Speaker 1: we do do that, but I feel like it's more
Speaker 1: about us sharing and the dynamic between us. I've always
Speaker 1: like my favorite thing about going to work every day
Speaker 1: when I was at Network was getting to sit next
Speaker 1: to you and have fun with you and enjoy what
Speaker 1: we're talking about together. It's the I just I think,
Speaker 1: and it's fun. In this environment. It feels intimate, it's
Speaker 1: just the two of us, and I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I look forward to recording every podcast every day.
Speaker 2: Oh it's horrible. All right.
Speaker 3: The next question is, would you guys ever do a
Speaker 3: reality show.
Speaker 2: Under the right. Yeah, that's a big ask, is there
Speaker 2: under what circumstances would have to be?
Speaker 1: Like if you asked us to do the Amazing Race
Speaker 1: or something cool like that, where we you know, we
Speaker 1: would consider, I think a reality show that was based
Speaker 1: on something fun and active and adventurous. But if you
Speaker 1: just want to have cameras in our apartments, that's a
Speaker 1: big hell no, Like absolutely not what we just want
Speaker 1: to have like you know, Life with Amy and TJ
Speaker 1: behind the scene. No, but other reality shows possibly, That
Speaker 1: is my answer.
Speaker 3: All right, This next one, I think out of all
Speaker 3: of them, we got a million of this one. Actually,
Speaker 3: when are you guys going to get married?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: Look at the time, looks like we might have to
Speaker 1: wait until the next episode to answer. This was the
Speaker 1: most asked question.
Speaker 3: Really the most Yeah, it was all over.
Speaker 2: Look, let us give it some thought. We'll get back
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: Tune in Yeah, tune into the next episode. We'll have
Speaker 1: our answer ready and we can't wait to answer that
Speaker 1: question and all the other she said it