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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to a very special edition of and TJ.

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Speaker 1: It is over recording this December fifth, and that is

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Speaker 1: a very special day for us. It is our one

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Speaker 1: year anniversary for the podcast. We'll take. We'll take what

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Speaker 1: we can get and we used.

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Speaker 2: To do back in the day. It's just a slow class, slow.

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Speaker 1: Class, right. Yeah, that's ye powerful.

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Speaker 2: Meaningful anniversary. Wow. We have so many anniversaries we can't yeah,

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Speaker 2: we can't keep them straight. But this is a can't

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Speaker 2: believe we're sitting here a year later. I'm not I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying I can't believe we made it a year

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Speaker 2: during the podcast, but I couldn't imagine I would ever

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Speaker 2: have a one year anniversary of a podcast. That's not

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Speaker 2: something that was in my mind not too terribly long ago.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's it's kind of incredible. And it's been

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Speaker 2: a hell of a year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know that, you know, but and anyone

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Speaker 1: who knows me knows I am a big believer in celebrating,

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Speaker 1: in celebrating anniversaries and birthdays, because these are the moments

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Speaker 1: where we can not only feel good about where we are,

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Speaker 1: but reflect back on how far we've come. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's what I wanted to do just for a

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Speaker 1: little bit today. I also wanted to point out we

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Speaker 1: on social media, on our on our social media page,

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Speaker 1: asked all of you to send in your questions and

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Speaker 1: we are going to be answering your questions in just

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Speaker 1: a bit. Andy, how many questions do we get.

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Speaker 3: fifty questions at least right here.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's a lot of questions. And those were

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Speaker 1: curated questions. We haven't seen them, by the way, but

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Speaker 1: we can't wait to answer what is on your mind.

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Speaker 1: But we wanted to share a little bit about what's

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Speaker 1: on our minds on this day. First. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about starting over, and I was looking

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Speaker 1: up starting over in your forties and fifties, and so

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Speaker 1: many people, maybe some of you listening, have had to

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Speaker 1: anytime you have to start over, it's a daunting task.

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Speaker 1: And I think back to last December fifth, and there

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Speaker 1: were tears, there were fears. I was scared and excited

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Speaker 1: all at once. Do you remember how you feel or.

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Speaker 2: Felt December fifth of last year. I was frustrated, I

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Speaker 2: was pissed, I was nervous. That became fear later, But

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a celebratory a day at the time, because

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Speaker 2: we learned that they are still forces out there who

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Speaker 2: is threatening and upsetting to some people. So that was

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Speaker 2: a big day for us a year ago, and others

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Speaker 2: chose to try to attack us on that day. Even so,

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Speaker 2: that's my honest answer. I was I and that's how

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Speaker 2: I was that day, and that was all kinds. We

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Speaker 2: some ugliness on December fifth last year, and nobody will

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Speaker 2: ever know, and we will never reveal, but it was

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Speaker 2: a difficult day, a very difficult day, and it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know how I forgot about

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Speaker 1: all of that, but you're right, that marked so much

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Speaker 1: of the day, and I do believe looking back, and

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Speaker 1: we have had plenty of tough days in between, and

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Speaker 1: we still will have plenty of tough days going forward.

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Speaker 1: But it's what you learn along the way about what

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Speaker 1: how we get through it together, which is challenging in moments,

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Speaker 1: I think, gosh, going through darkness gives you the perspective

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Speaker 1: man lean into them, celebrate them. But I remember once

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Speaker 1: we got the first podcast launched on December fifth, then

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Speaker 1: became the real challenge of Okay, we're gonna have one

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Speaker 1: podcast a week. What do listeners want to hear from us?

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Speaker 1: What do we want to share with listeners? What is

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Speaker 1: personal insight? You know, we had all of these questions

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Speaker 2: Well, I question still if we have any frickin' idea

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Speaker 2: but this is one place you cannot do that, and

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Speaker 2: we've experienced that as well. And we learned that in

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Speaker 2: conversations we've had in this very studio that wow, there's

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Speaker 2: a warmth here, there's an energy here. We got something

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Speaker 2: But you talked about we struggled with one a week,

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Speaker 2: and now we're up to god knows how many.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're doing at least six a week, sometimes eight,

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Speaker 1: and even this week because we're taping a few ahead

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Speaker 1: and also want to go take a nap. What a

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Speaker 1: difference in your makes one a week seemed like a

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Speaker 2: But again, not too long ago, we were wondering. We

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Speaker 2: we're longing for some like, Wow, nobody's gonna want to

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Speaker 2: We had those questions, and now it seems I know

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Speaker 2: where you're coming from, obviously because I'm right next to

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Speaker 2: you through it. But it seems odd to complain a

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Speaker 1: Oh please, I'm with you. I'm with you. I you

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Speaker 1: and I both said this from the beginning. Give us work,

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Speaker 1: Let's be busy. That's where we feel our strongest. But

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Speaker 1: I will say, and this is honest, I have not

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Speaker 1: worked this hard since I was in my twenties and thirties,

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Speaker 1: early on in my career, trying to prove myself, trying

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Speaker 1: And so in a way, we are doing that again.

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Speaker 2: No, I've always worked this hard.

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Speaker 1: You did work harder than I did. It can work,

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Speaker 1: But you know, for me, I had gotten to a

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Speaker 2: I'm kidding, I'm sorry. I'm actually thrive.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I would say that now

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Speaker 1: there was this new feeling of having to reprove myself.

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Speaker 1: I can only speak for me, but I felt.

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Speaker 2: That and still do, which is always a mistake. Exactly

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Speaker 2: And when was the last time I gave you that line?

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Speaker 2: That line you talked about it when I looked at

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Speaker 2: you and I said, you have nothing to prove.

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Speaker 1: You said that to me in the marathon when I

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Speaker 2: Nothing to prove to anybody.

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Speaker 1: And that made my shoulders relax. On this podcast, either,

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Speaker 1: can you remind me of that daily? Because that would help.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like that still, for sure, because.

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Speaker 2: Well, where does that come from? I mean, what did

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Speaker 1: He says that because just full disclosure here, my mom

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Speaker 1: We didn't spend Thanksgiving together, we didn't spend Christmas Eve

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Speaker 2: she's going through this whole thing. That's soliloquy. Let me

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Speaker 1: You know it's and it's not to say we don't

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Speaker 1: have tough days. Still, we still have tough days. Everyone

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Speaker 1: And that's my biggest problem, the outcome of this part,

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Speaker 2: else this life is just stay where you are it is.

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Speaker 2: It's a hard thing to do. It's the easiest thing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just the outcome is not ever what you're

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Speaker 1: I was looking up today, like I said, starting over

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Speaker 1: lot of times people don't start over because they want to,

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Speaker 1: it's because they have to. And that certainly was our story.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Amy and Tjr. And your anniversary

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Speaker 3: The first question is a really nice one. It's very simple.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm trying to think crazy. I don't know.

439
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 3: Sad Well, this one's going different about love, but not

440
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 3: as maybe crazy. But what has your perspective on love

441
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: and how has it changed over the years?

442
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: Well?

443
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: Change, Love is it's an it's not a passive it's

444
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: an active verb. Right. You have to show someone that

445
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 2: you love them. And I just don't think anymore that

446
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 2: love is some feeling like I just get overwhelmed. And

447
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: a lot of people say, oh, I just feed it,

448
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: that that whole thing, that feeling is fine with some

449
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: other things that have to come along with it. I

450
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: think I've I couldn't imagine I look back soon where

451
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 2: I am now. I can't imagine being at this point

452
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: ever being interested in people that I dated previously, some

453
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: folks I've dated previously, because it's just that doesn't make anything. No,

454
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 2: of course we're not a match. Of course I'm not

455
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 2: interested in that, and of course I'm not.

456
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 1: So. Yeah, I've learned about love. I've learned how to

457
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: love because now I know what love is it's not

458
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: about you chasing the feeling of receiving love. It's about

459
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: giving it without expecting something in return. And that sounds obvious,

460
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: but when you're actually in a relationship, if you think

461
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: about it, a lot of what we do is we're

462
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: doing things so that we can get love back, that

463
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: we can get something to make us feel good back.

464
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: And it almost is with strings attached, if I'm being honest.

465
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: But I've now felt like I know what it's like

466
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: to love someone even when it's hard, even when you

467
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 1: don't like them in the moment, or you're having a

468
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: tough day with them, to say I love them anyway,

469
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna and I'm going to act in a way,

470
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: in a loving way, even if I don't feel it

471
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: in this moment. And to me, that is love, and

472
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 1: it is it's about the hard times. That's when you

473
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: actually I feel like I know how much I love you,

474
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: because even when it's hard, I feel so strongly and

475
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: I have so many loving feelings towards you, even if

476
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm angry, hurt, or upset like that is a totally

477
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: new feeling for me, and that to me. I was

478
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: telling my mom this last night. Actually that that is

479
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: something I have not experienced before, and that is why

480
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 1: I do feel like this relationship I have with you

481
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: is something I've never experienced before.

482
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 2: Wow, well keep them coming, this is going well.

483
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: Tell us about your Thanksgiving with Amy's family, TJ.

484
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 2: No. No, I wasn't with Robox family really for Thanksgiving.

485
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: I was with a Robox family a couple of weekends prior.

486
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: They had a death in the family. Unfortunately we had

487
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: to go back for but it happened that I ended

488
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: up meeting the family for the first time at a funeral,

489
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: And so I can tell you about that family, or

490
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: I can tell you about Thanksgiving. It's funny. But Thanksgiving

491
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: was great because we did have at least of course overseas,

492
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 2: but Ava two of her friends, Ben Montgomery, who's been

493
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 2: around I feel like I know her as well as

494
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: anybody these days. And then Sabine and the two of

495
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: us had a nice It was a wonderful, wonderful Thanksgiving.

496
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: And it was the first holiday that you and I

497
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: have had a chance to spend together. But to have

498
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: the girls there and just everybody knowing everybody, and the

499
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: food was great, the games were great, and it was

500
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: there was great.

501
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: It was the first time either one of us had

502
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: ever cooked with someone else like our partner and prepared

503
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: the meal together. You did the turkey and the greens

504
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: and then I did the sides, and that was like,

505
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: that was really fun to be working alongside in the

506
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: kitchen with the person I love. Like that was a

507
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: really fun We had music playing.

508
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we had a great Thanksgiving. Now the it

509
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 2: was it was wild. The meeting Robot's family. It was

510
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: the circumstances. Again, it was unfortunate we were there for

511
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: a funeral. But I did take it as a bit

512
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: of a blessing, Like, what other opportunity were we going

513
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: to get that I could see all of your family members,

514
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: because we do end up Thanksgiving or Christmas would probably

515
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: end up somewhere else, the girls somewhere, so it's probably

516
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: not likely we get back for a big family thing.

517
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: So I was I took it as a blessing to

518
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: be able to meet everybody in the in the family.

519
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: And when you say everybody, there were a lot of people.

520
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of folks.

521
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: My mom's one of nine, and all the siblings were there, Yes,

522
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: all the siblings and all the cousins.

523
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: Frank, David, Paul, Steven, Patty, Kathy, Oh my dear Annie,

524
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: I love, There's Leslie. And then then that last one.

525
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: I can never remember who is it. It's Johnny, of

526
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: course that's her mom.

527
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: That is impressive. You just like like totally went through

528
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: all those names without any hesitation.

529
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm working on the spouses. I'm getting a few of them,

530
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: and I'm the cousins and the kids next.

531
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: That's that's impressive.

532
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: Speaking of holidays, what are your plans for Christmas?

533
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: So we because we have two New York City apartments

534
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: that are fairly small, so the only way that we

535
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: could all be together it would be too good a house.

536
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: We got a house upstate. All the girls are going

537
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: to be there. So this is momentous and historic and

538
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: excited it is. And we have a big fireplace. That

539
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: was the big That was the big draw. We had

540
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: to find a house with the fireplace. So we are

541
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: we are going upstate. We're just gonna kind of hunker

542
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: down and play games and make hot chocolate and make

543
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: memories really more than anything, all right.

544
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: Next question, was there a moment early on where you

545
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: thought the podcast was a mistake.

546
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: Oh? No, I actually never thought that. I think that's

547
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: part of it, right, grit, perseverance, that thing. There's something

548
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: in us. I don't know, but there was never a

549
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: moment where we we got frustrated plenty, but there was

550
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: never a moment where we thought we couldn't figure it out.

551
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: And we kept again, Andy, you know, as you own

552
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: these these text messages and our team they they're getting

553
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: stuff and we're firing off questions and please somebody help,

554
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: and so we are. We were always committed to figuring

555
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: this out and giving it a long run to not

556
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: just get frustrated. We are are people listening, Why didn't

557
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: they react to this? And they reacted to that. We

558
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: had to get away from that and just let it

559
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: be a steady, steady beat. And now we literally have

560
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: three podcasts that we put out regularly.

561
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I the whole time, the first time we

562
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: sat in front of the mics, it felt right, It

563
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: felt good. I think even when things are swirling around

564
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: us outside of this room, when we come into this

565
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: room in front of the microphones, I feel at home,

566
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: I feel at peace, I feel happy. I always felt

567
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: like this was almost a haven for life to be

568
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: able to come and hear and either talk about other people,

569
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: or talk about issues, or do these fun quizzes, or

570
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: even talk and share things that are happening in our lives.

571
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: It feels right, so I never questioned. It always felt

572
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: like the best way to build a foundation back, to

573
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: restart our careers and to take them in a direction

574
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: that we hadn't anticipated but are really enjoying. All right.

575
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: This next question is what is your favorite and least

576
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: favorite thing about podcasting?

577
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: Mmm.

578
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: I think my least favorite is being the inability to

579
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: get guests in the studio all the time, because people

580
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: are just all over the place and it's hard to

581
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: catch them so and it's so easy to just get

582
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: somebody in front of a computer while come into a studio.

583
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: But I think I miss having it in the times

584
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: we've had it. We've loved having people in studio and

585
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: we've had them plenty, but I think I wish we

586
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: could have more face to face time with our guests.

587
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: That's my barber least favorite. The most favorite, I guess

588
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: the freedom. I mean we have a freedom now in

589
00:31:52,840 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: all we put out to to shape the outline the podcast,

590
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: but also just the information we think we should be delivering.

591
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: And we didn't always get that freedom. And now I'm

592
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: comfortable that we have enough experience in the business to

593
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: actually know how to put a rundown together, to know

594
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: how to point out to the viewers, what's the viewers,

595
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 2: the listeners, viewers coming to the listeners, what I don't know. Editorially,

596
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: I've appreciated being editorially in charge.

597
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that has been a new thing for us. That's

598
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: that has been very gratifying actually to be able to

599
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: make those choices as a producer. My least favorite part

600
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: of podcasting is the fact that it's not live. I

601
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: miss live broadcasting, and I love live broadcasting. With this guy,

602
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: there was so much fun and energy to knowing you

603
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: can't you can't edit it, you can take it back

604
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: and you've got to be on your toes and there's

605
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: something really fun and enner about that. So maybe that

606
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: means radio or doing something on television, but I do

607
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: miss the live element. So that's we try to do

608
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: that as much as possible here in the podcast. We

609
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: don't edit hardly anything, but there is that thing when

610
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: you know it's live, it's just got a little different.

611
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I know you miss it too.

612
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: Oh but it gives you that. I mean, it's just

613
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: a it's a rush knowing no matter what comes out

614
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: of your mouth, you gotta go with it. And it's

615
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: just that's why when I think you, I think you'll admit.

616
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm not throwing you under the buzz here, but I

617
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: think you'll admit once you get into a recording mode

618
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: you stumble. You're like, oh, let's do it again. You

619
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: keep messing up because yeah, it totally gets in your

620
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: head and I'm the same way. But when it's live,

621
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: there will not be a stumble.

622
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: I love that I missed it, and my favorite part

623
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,239
Speaker 1: of podcasting just to be because I do like what

624
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: you said in terms of having the editorial control, but

625
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: I like that it's just you and me. I like

626
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: that you and I get to sit across the mics

627
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: from each other and just do what we do and

628
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: it's not really about the news of the day. Necessarily,

629
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: we do do that, but I feel like it's more

630
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: about us sharing and the dynamic between us. I've always

631
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: like my favorite thing about going to work every day

632
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: when I was at Network was getting to sit next

633
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: to you and have fun with you and enjoy what

634
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: we're talking about together. It's the I just I think,

635
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: and it's fun. In this environment. It feels intimate, it's

636
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: just the two of us, and I really appreciate it.

637
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: I look forward to recording every podcast every day.

638
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: Oh it's horrible. All right.

639
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: The next question is, would you guys ever do a

640
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: reality show.

641
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Under the right. Yeah, that's a big ask, is there

642
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 2: under what circumstances would have to be?

643
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: Like if you asked us to do the Amazing Race

644
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: or something cool like that, where we you know, we

645
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: would consider, I think a reality show that was based

646
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: on something fun and active and adventurous. But if you

647
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: just want to have cameras in our apartments, that's a

648
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: big hell no, Like absolutely not what we just want

649
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: to have like you know, Life with Amy and TJ

650
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: behind the scene. No, but other reality shows possibly, That

651
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: is my answer.

652
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: All right, This next one, I think out of all

653
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: of them, we got a million of this one. Actually,

654
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 3: when are you guys going to get married?

655
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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Look at the time, looks like we might have to

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Speaker 1: wait until the next episode to answer. This was the

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Speaker 1: most asked question.

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Speaker 3: Really the most Yeah, it was all over.

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Speaker 2: Look, let us give it some thought. We'll get back

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 1: Tune in Yeah, tune into the next episode. We'll have

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Speaker 1: our answer ready and we can't wait to answer that

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