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Speaker 1: your summer. Let's talk some sports and other stuff over

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Speaker 1: the next couple of hours. So I heard Isaac Lohencron

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Speaker 1: start the update with with the passing of Hulk Hogan.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not criticizing Isaac, Okay, So again, like I

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Speaker 1: don't tell Isaac what to lead with. He doesn't tell

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Speaker 1: me what to lead with. And I do think that

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Speaker 1: Hulk Hogan dying at the age of like seventy one

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Speaker 1: is a big story. I just personally tell you that

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Speaker 1: the things that he was outed for for saying on

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Speaker 1: for me to feel like a guy is an icon

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Speaker 1: when that's the way he spoke about people. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: I do think there's a bunch of different lessons in

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Speaker 1: Hulk Hogan dying. Right, that's the thing. And no, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going rule of three, as Jaycedu kind of eerily predicted.

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Speaker 1: I think it was two days ago. He's like, you

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Speaker 1: know what they're gonna say, It's comes in threes. And

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Speaker 1: with Ozzie dying, and with Malcolm Jamal Warner dying, and

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Speaker 1: now Hulk Hogan dying, everybody from the eighties is dying.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's actually the less not the rule of three.

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Speaker 1: It's that because I was thinking about this on how

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Speaker 1: we still, especially in the NBA, but some in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: we grip to this belief that athletes aren't going to age,

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Speaker 1: that who they were last year is who they're going

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Speaker 1: to be this year and next year. Again, it's the

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Speaker 1: age old thing of why I agree with not having

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Speaker 1: multi year, lengthy, guaranteed contracts in the National Football League

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Speaker 1: I don't care if that sounds like I'm anti athlete.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm a realist. I mean, heck, even justin fields.

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Speaker 1: And I think he may have dislocated a toe. We

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Speaker 1: don't know which toe. It happened earlier today, but it

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Speaker 1: caused you to hold your breath. But the idea is,

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Speaker 1: in football, you are just one hit away from never

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Speaker 1: playing again. And most guys outside of the quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: and even sometimes when you get to your late thirties

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Speaker 1: not the same guy you used to be in any way,

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Speaker 1: So maybe that's what it is. Maybe it's like we

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Speaker 1: make fun of the Clippers because the Clippers have gone

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Speaker 1: to James harden Kawhi's a little bit longer in the

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Speaker 1: tooth and oft injured and now Chris Paul And you're like, dude, really,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this team ten years ago amazing. This year

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Speaker 1: that'll make the playoffs? Then what? But we only do

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Speaker 1: it for Chris Paul. We don't do it for the Lakers, right,

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Speaker 1: we don't do it talk about Lebron. Remember last year,

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Speaker 1: heading into the playoffs, we were like, hey, I think

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Speaker 1: they got a chance. They had no chance. Why he's

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Speaker 1: a shell of his former self, especially the defensive end,

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Speaker 1: as he should be forty years old. He's amazing for forty,

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Speaker 1: but he's still forty. So maybe the start of the

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Speaker 1: show is age is just a number, or maybe it's

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Speaker 1: that Hulk Hogan. Tiger Woods now was never presented like

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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods was, but he was when we were all hulkomaniacs.

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Speaker 1: He was like an American icon. But just like wrestling itself,

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Speaker 1: it's fake. Everything about it was fake, and please stop

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Speaker 1: with the Those guys get hurt, They do get hurt,

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Speaker 1: they do jump off things, but they do the same

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Speaker 1: difference is it's a planned out act. In wrestling, they

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Speaker 1: not athletes. They may have been an athlete in a

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Speaker 1: Within reason like it's it's it's art, it's not sports.

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Speaker 1: and in this case, it's it's more of an art.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I actually believe in the good of people.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's why I feel so scorned at the fact

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Speaker 1: that my dad used to tell me, like that's real.

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Speaker 1: It's not real, Bob, It's not just like the presentation

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's the trappings of fame. Whatever it is. I

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Speaker 1: do think there's takeaways. I let me ask you a question,

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Speaker 1: do you consider this is just again you're allowed your opinion.

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Speaker 1: I have mine. Was Hulk Hogan an athlete?

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Speaker 2: And what to kinda do comedia in the largest arms

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Speaker 3: Brother, that's my response. No, it's a brother, It's it's

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Speaker 3: a valid question.

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Speaker 3: I think the I think maybe a more know The

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Speaker 3: answer is no, he was a it was sports entertainment,

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Speaker 1: It was not sports entertainment. It's not sports. It's not

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Speaker 1: you're you're letting the WWE get to you with like ah,

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Speaker 1: we changed it to w entertainment, like real wrestling. That's why,

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Speaker 1: I honestly think it's one of the reasons UFC and

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Speaker 1: and you know, MMA is so popular because it's real wrestling,

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Speaker 1: whereas we were sold fake wrestling for so long. So

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Speaker 1: how old were you when you found out it was fake.

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Speaker 3: Last last Thursday? No, I was thinking about this this morning.

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Speaker 3: I I deep down knew it was fake. But I

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Speaker 3: think why this is such a big story and it

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Speaker 3: evokes so much is less about as you said, who

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Speaker 3: Hulk Hogan was. I was not as given name, of course,

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Speaker 3: but rather the memories it evoked from a certain generation

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Speaker 3: charm of sports is nostalgia, and especially when you're growing

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Speaker 3: up in that age, you don't realize that there's a

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Speaker 3: real life where things probably aren't as clean cut as

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Speaker 1: Yeah's honestly, it's a beautifully put series of sentences. It's

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Speaker 1: there ever? I think part of it is because you're

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Speaker 1: you're not that much younger, but you're young enough to

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Speaker 1: where you were always in on it, right, you always

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Speaker 1: knew that it wasn't real, correct, Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, never never yeah, never confused uh, pro wrestling

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Speaker 5: You don't have all these crazy stunts and stuff in

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Speaker 1: Right because you can't actually do that if you're actually

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Speaker 5: Way, And there's not actually a whole lot of like wrestling,

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Speaker 5: like actual sport of wrestling in pro wrestling. It's more

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Speaker 5: of like violent fighting and with some grappling and stuff,

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Speaker 5: but it's it's it's not the same thing. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: I never thought it was never thought it was real.

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Speaker 3: During during the Kulk generation, if you will, I would

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Speaker 3: say there was more, like I said, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: a lot more seemingly athleticism than how it is now,

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Speaker 3: when it's way excessively based on storylines and anything but

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Speaker 3: the match.

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Speaker 1: Okay, again, I'm a fully disclosed I have never been

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Speaker 1: an avid watcher of WWF or WWE or any or

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Speaker 1: www dot com. Like I just have not. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: would tell you though that I think, and I yes,

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Speaker 5: I feel like some of the stunts from the eighties

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Speaker 6: On the line a little more, you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like uh, and I'm pleased, I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 5: a pro wrestling well and also like, what is it? Uh,

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm gonna miss quote this, but it's like

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 5: But but there was there was stuff that were they

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Speaker 5: were in the nineties. These people were when these people

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Speaker 5: were putting their lives on the line to entertain.

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Speaker 1: People, they were not putting their lives.

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Speaker 5: Oh, they absolutely were, doug They absolutely were. There were

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Speaker 5: like selling the you know, selling the sports, selling out

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Speaker 5: like it was real blood and stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was. It was all predetermined.

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Speaker 5: But I would definitely call these guys athletes, I absolutely would.

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Speaker 5: And I think there's a lot of crossover between sports

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Speaker 5: and pro wrestling. You say, George Kittle is basically setting

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Speaker 5: of the the persona he puts on the field now

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Speaker 5: and in in interviews.

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Speaker 1: But is it sports? It's not, it's not. Why is

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Speaker 1: it a sport?

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Speaker 6: It's not.

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Speaker 5: I didn't say it's a sport. I said they're athletes, athletes, But.

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Speaker 1: But they're athletic actors. They're not athletes.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we're arguing semantics here. I don't think it's competition.

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Speaker 5: It's predetermined competition. But they are athletes because they are.

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Speaker 5: They have to be in certain shape, they have to

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Speaker 5: you know, it's not competition. There's a I think there's

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Speaker 5: a difference there.

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Speaker 1: Like was uh uh Andre the Giant? Was he an athlete?

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Speaker 6: Sure? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just a giant. He walked around things

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Speaker 6: Was not but he used his body, He used his body.

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Speaker 1: If he was athletic at all, he would have played

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. That's an athlete.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't he a world champion drinker?

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Speaker 3: Outside the ring? I mean, I've heard stories.

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Speaker 5: We have all kinds of ways of defining athletes. Now,

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Speaker 1: Show Fox Sports Radio. I hope you're having a great day.

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Speaker 1: It's the summer, middle of summer, right, slugging it out,

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Speaker 9: both realize this is where we are. So, you know,

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Speaker 9: best guests thirty two million a year or something like that,

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Speaker 9: which is great, but it's not top of the market.

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Speaker 9: I just think that's where the Browns are. The tougher one.

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Speaker 9: Doug is that rookie. And again people have asked me

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Speaker 9: a lot about this. CBA does basically determine what you're

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Speaker 9: going to make in a rookie contract. We know what

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Speaker 9: Schamarsh threw at their top pick is going to make,

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Speaker 9: how much bonus, how much per year. What it doesn't

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Speaker 9: tell you is how to negotiate the contract beyond that,

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Speaker 9: how many guarantees, what's the language like, what's the offsets?

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Speaker 9: And here are The issue is language. So Mike Brown

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Speaker 9: and the Bengals want to impose language that other teams use.

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Speaker 9: We use in Green Bay. The Eagles have it. The

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Speaker 9: Rams have it. If you have a default at any

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Speaker 9: point in the contract, and default can be defined as

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Speaker 9: a suspension, a conduct, detrimental discipline, something that takes you

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Speaker 9: off the field, and it can be even broader than that.

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Speaker 9: The rest of the contract loses its guarantees. So this

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Speaker 9: is going to be a four year guaranteed contract. If

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Speaker 9: something were to happen in year one, he'd still have

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Speaker 9: the contract, but it wouldn't be guaranteed. And they're trying

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Speaker 9: to impose this as they've never had it before. They

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Speaker 9: don't anything against Shamar Stewart, although the language from Mike

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Speaker 9: Brown was really disturbing, you know, but they just want

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Speaker 9: impose in their contracts so that next year, the year

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Speaker 9: after and forever. This is not a negotiation. They say, well,

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Speaker 9: now we got it in our contracts, so it's always

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Speaker 9: tough to do the first time. But they've been behind

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Speaker 9: other teams and getting this in.

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Speaker 1: Is it an unreasonable ask what Mike Brown's trying to

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Speaker 1: get through.

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Speaker 9: Yes and no, No, because other teams have it. Yes,

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Speaker 9: because they had a number one sick last year who's

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Speaker 9: picked lower than Shamar Stewart. He didn't have it and

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Speaker 9: Their response is, well, here we go. We're starting in

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty five. It all comes down optionality, Doug, as

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Speaker 9: you know, and leverage. I don't see Shamar Stewart having

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Speaker 9: any other options. And people he's not going back to

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Speaker 9: Texas A and M Please, No, he's not. He'd have

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Speaker 9: to win a lawsuit that would take months off years.

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Speaker 9: He is has no options, so I think he'll sign.

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Speaker 1: I tend to agree with you. This is the Doug

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Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show only on Fox Sports Radio. We're so happy

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Speaker 1: to be joined by the Guru of business himself, that's

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Speaker 1: Andrew Brant. Andrew, there's a change in leadership in Green Bay, right,

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Speaker 1: and what's that mean for how the Packers do business.

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Speaker 9: I don't think much because before my time, my time

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Speaker 9: and since my time, the president is important and obviously

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Speaker 9: directs the franchise from a leadership view, from strategy, from

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Speaker 9: doing a lot off the field, with real estate, with politics,

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Speaker 9: with buying up land around Titletown. But there's a tremendous

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Speaker 9: difference in the Packers and always has been to the

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Speaker 9: football operation. They don't get involved. Now. They could fire

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Speaker 9: the coach, they could hire the coach, they could fire

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Speaker 9: the GM. I get that, but there is deference to

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Speaker 9: when it was Ron Wolfer, Ted Thompson now Brian gudukunst

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Speaker 9: to run the team the way they want and not

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Speaker 9: get involved in their tech management, and not get involved

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Speaker 9: in who they pick, and not get involved in free

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Speaker 9: agency discussions. So the Packers are a very much in

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Speaker 9: your lane team where coaches coach, scout scout, management manages,

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Speaker 9: and general manager picks the players. So I don't think

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Speaker 9: it'll change too much. Policy is a longtime fixture. As

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Speaker 9: everyone knows his father with the forty nine ers in Browns.

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Speaker 9: It's a royalty name in the NFL. He'll fit in seamlessly,

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Speaker 9: has been there a while. So yeah, and I was

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Speaker 9: asked about him and the whole process, and I was

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Speaker 9: very pro policy because I thought continuity is always important

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Speaker 9: in any organization.

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Speaker 1: Hey, So, Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of the turmoil atop the NFLPA.

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Speaker 9: You know, Doug, it's been a mess a long time,

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Speaker 9: and this is just another indication that there's been an

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Speaker 9: air of secrecy of veil around that organization since Chenopshall

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Speaker 9: left and people have reached out to me former players

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Speaker 9: ask me that same question. I just I think it

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Speaker 9: needs a revamp. It reads a redo. It it has

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Speaker 9: to allow for some transparency. I don't know what they've

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Speaker 9: done negotiation wise, where they give away a seventeenth game,

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Speaker 9: they give away economic concessions, and all they end up

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Speaker 9: with is better practice time and reduced padded practices. I mean,

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Speaker 9: someone's got to get in there and say we're a

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Speaker 9: real union. We're not just going to say, well, we'll

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Speaker 9: never strike. We have too many players like do something

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Speaker 9: about it. And this latest thing is just, you know,

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Speaker 9: my action is everyone's reaction. How in the world did

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Speaker 9: they end up with this guy who has no football knowledge,

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Speaker 9: no football experience, and has all these personal piccadillos that

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Speaker 9: we've now found out about. And I mean, you couldn't

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Speaker 9: ask for a worse process. So I don't know. I

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Speaker 9: mean I'm looking at it like you are and like,

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Speaker 9: what the heck? What is going on with these people?

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Speaker 9: So hopefully it's a whole reset. I know players want that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Andrew

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Speaker 1: Brandt is our guest because of because of the allegations

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Speaker 1: of collusion, right which which came out. There's this continued

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Speaker 1: talk of the fully guaranteed contracts, and again I'll be

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Speaker 1: fully I'll fully disclose to you. A lot of the

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Speaker 1: people I talked to summer agents, but a lot of

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Speaker 1: them are on the front office side and their their stances, like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: the only ones pushing for all this stuff is the agents.

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Speaker 1: Because there is that the fully guaranteed contracts would happen,

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Speaker 1: they would just be less money in less years than

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Speaker 1: people want to have happened. And the reason that hasn't

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Speaker 1: happened is because the agents want to win. You know,

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Speaker 1: the the tweet that says my guy got two on

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Speaker 1: it right, the pr to it. What's the reality beat?

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Speaker 1: You know this game way better than anybody else. What's

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Speaker 1: the reality to Who's behind the push for the fully guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: lengthy contracts?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think it's I guess I'll say this. It

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Speaker 9: has to start somewhere. We talked about this for three years.

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Speaker 9: Deshaun Watson set the stage. Regardless of what you think

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Speaker 9: of him, what do you think of the Browns? It

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Speaker 9: was there and we just talked about precedent with the

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Speaker 9: Cincinnati Bengals. I'm a lawyer, president's everything. So their president

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Speaker 9: was there, and those three people that brought the grievance,

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Speaker 9: Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray faced against an uphill

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Speaker 9: battle with that precedent where the teams are like, no,

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Speaker 9: we don't think that's precedent. And in those three situation,

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Speaker 9: I think there was collusion and I think there was

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Speaker 9: bad acting. So in terms of who's behind it, it's

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Speaker 9: just trying to break the seal. Whether it will trickle

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Speaker 9: down beyond elite quarterbacks ever, I don't think so. I

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Speaker 9: just don't think the league's built that way, and all

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Speaker 9: the reasons you just mentioned, but I think those three quarterbacks,

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Speaker 9: and then behind them was Burrow and Hertz and Herbert,

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Speaker 9: you know there's no reason it shouldn't be. And the

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Speaker 9: team can say, which they do say, is well, he's

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Speaker 9: Patrick Mahomes, he's Josh Allen, he's Joe Burrow. It's like

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Speaker 9: it's guaranteed. Well, if it's really like it's guaranteed, you

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Speaker 9: just guarantee it. Because without the guarantee, you know, the

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Speaker 9: team still has leverage, Like if you have a bad performance,

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Speaker 9: they can reduce your contract because you're under contract. So

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Speaker 9: I think it's a it's a limited sample size, so

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Speaker 9: maybe fifteen quarterbacks they should have that. There should there's

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Speaker 9: no reason they shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: He's Andrew Brett. He is the guru of the business

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Speaker 1: of sports. Check at the Sunday seven newsletter. Andrew, how

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Speaker 1: can somebody get the Sunday seven newsletter.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, go to my Sunday seven dot com and talk

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Speaker 9: about this week all the topics we just discussed. And

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Speaker 9: speaking of the packers, that go in detail about their

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Speaker 9: financial report that just came out.

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Speaker 1: So I think four four hundred and thirty million dollars

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Speaker 1: in revenue, and we only know that because they're they're

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Speaker 1: a publicly owned company, which means every team got four

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty right, that's every.

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Speaker 9: Team before they turn the lights on, they got four

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Speaker 9: hundred thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good. Good to be the king. Thanks so much, Andrew,

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Speaker 1: on a daily basis. And uh, our guy Ross Tucker

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Speaker 1: is going to join us as we get you ready

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Speaker 1: for an NFL season. You know, and I guess my

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Speaker 1: question going in the season. I know they didn't win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Eagles did Eagles have a lot of

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Speaker 1: questions because you lost your offensive coordinator, right, and but

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Speaker 1: it still feels like they have better talent than most people.

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Speaker 1: It's not everybody, but there are definitely some moving pieces there.

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Speaker 1: And then for the Kansady Chiefs, will there be a

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Speaker 1: moment where the league catch us up to him? Offensive

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Speaker 1: line is still a mess and you know, didn't play

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Speaker 1: well in the Super Bowl. But like, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: be the guy that counts out the Chiefs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how many years in a row are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: This is the year that they level off and they

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Speaker 1: just have not. So we'll catch up with Ross Tucker upcoming.

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Speaker 1: But we do this every Thursday, and it's a great

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Speaker 1: way to kind of play the way back machine. Jason

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Speaker 1: Stewart's not here, not because his Dodgers didn't win. They

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Speaker 1: actually won last night. Pretty planned day off, although the

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Speaker 1: previous day's offer only because the Dodgers had lost. But

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Speaker 1: he came with this, But it's a great idea. It's

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Speaker 1: called don't call a throwback Thursday.

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Speaker 7: You don't call it a throwback Thursday.

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Speaker 1: All right, Patrick? All right, what's the year we're throwing

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Speaker 1: it back to?

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Speaker 5: All Right, Doug, So here's what we're doing. It's customary

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Speaker 5: that I interrupt you with Jackson fair point. You all

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Speaker 5: take it from here, Doug, go ahead, say that, go ahead,

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Speaker 5: so all take it from here, Doug, that's your best.

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Speaker 10: Jason Steward, Well, we're gonna go with the year nineteen

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Speaker 10: ninety six. Why did I choose nineteen ninety six? Well,

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Speaker 10: with Hulk Hogan's rest in peace to him today. With

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Speaker 10: that being said, he actually turned into Hollywood Hulk Hogan

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Speaker 10: in nineteen ninety six, So I'm like, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 10: why don't we use that That was a prominent moment

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Speaker 10: in his career.

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Speaker 6: Let's do that.

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Speaker 10: So with that said, we're going nineteen ninety six. I

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Speaker 10: was also alive during that point. I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 10: how young I was, but I was alive.

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Speaker 6: So we got that.

644
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Speaker 10: So that said, let's go with the sports, the first

645
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Speaker 10: one I got going sports. With the sports going first,

646
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 10: we got the Summer Olympics were hosted in Atlanta, and

647
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Speaker 10: that actually was the US women's national soccer team won

648
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 10: their first Olympic golden medal there. So that happened in

649
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 10: nineteen ninety six in the Summer of Olympics in Atlanta.

650
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 10: We'll see what else we go, Oh, NBA Finals, All right,

651
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 10: this was the Chicago hold on, slow down, holding on,

652
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 10: hold on, hold on.

653
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So Patrick, Yes, I love you.

654
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 6: This is Doug who lived through it, and Patrick, who's

655
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 6: like reading it on the end.

656
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it and the US swimmen's soccer team

657
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: would it?

658
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 10: Like?

659
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: No, dude, that's not what the Olympics were known for.

660
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 6: I was one years old. Give me, give me a

661
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 6: little bit of slack.

662
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm no, but you volunteered and put yourself out there.

663
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 6: Fair, that's fair.

664
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Speaker 7: Ilo.

665
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: The Olympics in Atlanta were known for three things? What

666
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: were they?

667
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: I was going to get to what I think was

668
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: one of them. But aside from that, the other two

669
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: unfortunately the bombing and and Centennial Park and Carrie, Oh,

670
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: Carrie Strong. I'd forgotten how big about shrug? Right, I forgot,

671
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: but that was huge back.

672
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 4: In the day.

673
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: It was so huge she parlayed that into a cameo

674
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: on nine O two one zero. It's unbelievable, Doug, and

675
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 3: you would attest to it how big the carry strug

676
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 3: thing was back then.

677
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: Yes, So Patrick, do you have any idea what we're

678
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: talking about? Absolutely not, No, Like he doesn't even know

679
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: who Bella Coroli is.

680
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 6: Nope.

681
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: That sounds like something you can carry.

682
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: That sounds like something you'd order on like uber eat tonight, Like,

683
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: hey guys, there's some Bella. This place has got Bella Coroli.

684
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: Really yeah, that's I don't know. I don't like to

685
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: eat that outside like the restaurant.

686
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 6: So fresher en house. Ye, can't take it to go definitely.

687
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: Definitely can't take that Bella Coroli. And by the way,

688
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: Bella Corole rip right, didn't he die? I want to

689
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 1: say he died this year anyway? I digress.

690
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, he he died. He died no member of

691
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, So you're correct.

692
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: So in the last three hundred and sixty five days,

693
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: there we go. So Carrie Shrug sprained her ankle, the

694
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: levels of which we don't know, but she completed I

695
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: want to say, a gold medal in the vault on

696
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: one leg and like landed on one leg, right, and

697
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: it was seen as a heroic moment, and it's it's

698
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: in the course of actual performance in the ninety six Olympics.

699
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: It's what I think is the most memorable moment, right

700
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: is that fair? I love?

701
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely? I mean she was literally America's sweetheart. I

702
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: mean you could not turn on NBC for like three

703
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: days after that without seeing Carrie strug Yeah.

704
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: And then the Olympic bombing was what they were? What

705
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: was what the games? What was the guy who got blamed.

706
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 3: Richard Jewell, the security guard who was actually, as it

707
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: turned out, a hero and actually saved people by clearing

708
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: the area. And he was found guilty by the court

709
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 3: of public opinion until they found out it was actually

710
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: Eric Robert Rudolph years later.

711
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 5: Did you guys ever see that movie Richard Jewel that

712
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 5: came out in twenty nineteen, heard it was really good.

713
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: No, I saw a documentary about him, but not the movie.

714
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: So also, I think Andrea Iguessie one, I think that

715
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: was the first year they had ten Was that the

716
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: first year of tennis? I'm I'm forgetting, but remember this

717
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: is when they started allowing pros in the Olympics as well.

718
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: And yes, women's soccer was kind of a thing, but

719
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: that was because I want to say, that was the

720
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Speaker 1: first time they had women's soccer in the Olympics.

721
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Speaker 3: And they played it, if my memory serves me, out

722
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: of all places between the hedges at Sanford Stadium in Athens.

723
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Speaker 3: And you know what, I was gonna mention this so

724
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: I might as well do it now as part of

725
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: the nineteen ninety six Olympics, and it's so crazy. Before

726
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 3: I knew we were going to talk about this today,

727
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 3: I actually thought about this morning for the first time

728
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 3: in a long time. But one of my most memorable

729
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: moments in sports history the lighting of the torch that

730
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: year at the opening.

731
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 7: Yes, it was.

732
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 3: It was a total surprise. Nobody knew that it was

733
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: going to be It was going to be him. And

734
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: I'll play it for you here. This is Janet Evans

735
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: going up a long, tall, winding ramp at Centennial Olympic Stadium,

736
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: which was later converted into Turner Field, the Home of

737
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: the Braves, and all of a sudden, Muhammad Ali emerges

738
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: out of the darkness. The whole stadium gasps. And here's

739
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: how it sounded on NBC with Bob Costas and Dick

740
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: Enberg as a league got ready to light the torch

741
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety six at the Olympics.

742
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 7: But look who gets it next?

743
00:41:50,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 11: But gregis, once the most dynamic figure, is so gregarious

744
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 11: man now trapped inside that mask created by Parkinson syndrome,

745
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 11: so in one sense of poignant figure.

746
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 7: But look out him still.

747
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 4: A great, great presence, still exuding nobility in stature, and

748
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 4: the response of Volkes's part affection, part excitement, but especially respect.

749
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: Just a spine tingling moment that I'll always remember.

750
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety six a huge year in the NBA. That

751
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: was when the Chicago Bulls won of then records seventy

752
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: two games. And that was also the year that Kobe

753
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: Bean Bryant was drafted thirteenth overall by the Charlotte Hornets,

754
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: only on a draft day trade to be traded to

755
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: the LA Lakers. Nineteen ninety six in the NBA, do.

756
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 6: You guys remember can we go back just to carry scrug?

757
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: Is that straw shrug?

758
00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 6: I'm just struggling right now.

759
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: I was at the year which you guys have.

760
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 5: Okay, you didn't no, I know, I didn't know I did.

761
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 5: I just forgot it was And listen, Okay, I'm just

762
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 5: being full, fully transparent.

763
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: Exactly. That's the thing I love about iowash Sam. When

764
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: she's wrong about something, he's wrong about it in like

765
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: a really entertaining way.

766
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 6: Good.

767
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 5: Well, she she came on SNL and she did this

768
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 5: sketch with Chris Catan as her like fictional brother Skippy.

769
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 5: I remember that being very funny because Chris Chris Catan

770
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 5: was like a huge deal in SNL in the late nineties,

771
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 5: and do you remember her coming on anyway? Sorry, you

772
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 5: know what, maybe when Kobe being Bryant, I'm doing my

773
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 5: best Jason here wearing all that today. Maybe you know,

774
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 5: when Kobe being Brian came into the NBA, he might

775
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 5: have been listening to this song on his walkman.

776
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 6: Yes, I brought up the.

777
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 5: I brought up with Quad Cities earlier is where Seth

778
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 5: Rollins was from. But this is like to the Quad

779
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 5: City DJs from the state of Florida. Yes, and they

780
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 5: would have a few more hits, but that was that year.

781
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety six was let's see that was a

782
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 5: number eleven on the Billboard Hot one hundred by the

783
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 5: end of the year.

784
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember ninety ninety six, jam I visited I

785
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: was my ninety six ninety seven was the season I

786
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: went to gold must College, didn't play basketball pranks for

787
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: the team, and visited Alabama. That song was playing at

788
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: the Husks. Good time was had by all the Husks

789
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: ninety six in the NFL, and again remember you gotta

790
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: get you gotta be careful with ninety six because the

791
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: ninety six season became the ninety seven Super Bowl, Right,

792
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: that was a year it was won by the Green

793
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: Bay Packers led by Brett farre who take down the

794
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: New England Patriots, who were led by Drew Bledsoe and

795
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells.

796
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, and that was Parcells's last game because Will mcdonnough,

797
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: the late father of Sean mcdonoughh broke the news the

798
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: day before the Super Bowl that Parcells was leaving to

799
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: coach the New York Jets. I would say, that's a distraction.

800
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: You know, you're getting ready to play the Super Bowl.

801
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: If you fight out your head coach isn't even gonna

802
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: fly back with you on the way home. And what

803
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 3: Desmond Howard, former Heisman Trophy winner, was the Super Bowl

804
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 3: MVP that year as he returned the key kickoff all

805
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: the way back for a touchdown. And that was also

806
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: the year that the Yankees, Right, the Yankees started their

807
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: dynasty nineteen ninety six, and Derek Jeter was a rookie

808
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 3: and GITA number two GITA shortstop Derek Eric Shee too.

809
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: Geta did you know that that were series? I don't

810
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: how much you remember of it? Yankee started up down

811
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: two games to none. They lost the first two games

812
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: at home at Yankee Stadium. Absolutely went back to Fulton

813
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: County Stadium and began a progression, winning four straight. Yeah,

814
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: Fulton County Stadium.

815
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: Old Fulton County Stadium. Yeah, in the most dramatic way possible.

816
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: That was the Jim Layritz tying home run in Game four.

817
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: They win game five to one to nothing, and then

818
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 3: they came home and they won the World Series in

819
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six, and that was the start of the

820
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: Yankees dynasty. But yeah, that's a great point. They lost

821
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: the first two at home, everybody thought they were toast

822
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: and then they then they came back to win the

823
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six World Series and then start the dynasty.

824
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: Let me think is was this the year we're talking about?

825
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 7: Yeah?

826
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: Okay, so the National Championship in college basketball that year,

827
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: Doug was one by John excuse me, Rick Patino's Kentucky

828
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: Wildcats over Syracuse.

829
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 7: But what that was.

830
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: Most notable to me about or for me, was that

831
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: that was the last time a final exactly it was

832
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: played at the Meadowlands in New Jersey. That was the

833
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 3: last time that an n C double a Final Four

834
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 3: and National Championship game was not played in a dome,

835
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 3: and I actually think that. I think we might have

836
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: talked about it on this show before, but I think

837
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: they'd be they do, well, it'll never happen because it

838
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: makes too it makes too much sense. But I think

839
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: they should move it back into an arena. I think

840
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: it makes so much money. And yeah, exactly, that's why

841
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: it'll never happen. That's why I'll never happen.

842
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: So I love let me just I'm just gonna help

843
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: you with the math here. Okay, what do you think

844
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: the average ticket the Final four is?

845
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 11: Oh?

846
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: Geez, I mean in a dome. Let's say let's say

847
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty bucks.

848
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: Okay, average, Now you're way off, just because remember there's

849
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: three games. It's a lot more than that. Okay, but

850
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: let's let's say the average ticket, like, do you want

851
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: to go a two hundred fus low? But okay, two

852
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: hundred what is two hundred times seventy five thousand?

853
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 3: Hey, it ain't my money, I understand that.

854
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I just want to do this for

855
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: math real quick, because I've done this before. Sam, do

856
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: you got your calculator out.

857
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 6: Calculating right now, what is he ai?

858
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 3: So you want to two hundred dollars time seventy five thousand,

859
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: fifteen million, right?

860
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: Okay. Now, let's increase the price of each ticket to

861
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Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a ticket, so you're going two point

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Speaker 1: five x okay? What is okay? What is five hundred

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Speaker 1: times twenty thousand? If you had twenty thousand in one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest arenas in the country, could you please

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Speaker 1: calculate that.

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Speaker 5: We all know the answer to it anyway, ten million

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Speaker 5: dollars okay, A seven million dollars shortfall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, it ain't never gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: So if the tickets were expensive enough, you could move

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Speaker 5: it back to a smaller arena, But that just is

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Speaker 5: gonna squeeze people out.

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Speaker 3: No, it'll never have you guys on the money, that's clear.

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Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is that from an esthetics point

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Speaker 3: of view.

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Speaker 1: No, it's it's a real basketball game and a real

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00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: basketball arena exactly. But it's never gonna happen again. And

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Speaker 1: you're right, by the way. Nineteen ninety six college football season,

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Speaker 1: which wrapped up in nineteen ninety seven, was the Florida

879
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: Gators of the national champion coached by the headball coach

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Speaker 1: Steve Spurrier. Hell, well, we got two quarterbacks. Go out there,

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Speaker 1: see we got one. He doesn't get a job done,

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Speaker 1: I get somebody else in there. Yep, you'd like to

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Speaker 1: play Georgia first game the season. I always have a

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Speaker 1: couple guys.

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Speaker 6: That's not bad.

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Speaker 1: Bad ball coach, that's not bad.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We we created when I was at one of the

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Speaker 1: other places I worked at, we created the Spurrier zone, right,

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Speaker 1: what's the spurs So Bill Simmons is the author of

891
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Speaker 1: the Tyson zone. The Tyson zone is Mike. The stories

892
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: about Mike Tyson are so crazy. But there's not a

893
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Speaker 1: story about Mike Tyson you wouldn't believe to be true. Correct,

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Speaker 1: Like if you said Mike Tyson fought a bear, you'd

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Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I can see that. Steve Spurrier had

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Speaker 1: the Spurrier zone. We created that, which is he's so

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Speaker 1: accomplished in the sport of college football. You know, Heisman

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Speaker 1: Trophy winner, National champion at Florida before Florida was really

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Speaker 1: invested in terms of their facilities in the sport. One

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Speaker 1: at Duke got South Carolina to Atlanta to the SEC

901
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Speaker 1: Championship game, that there's nothing, nothing holding it. He could

902
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Speaker 1: speak his mind and say whatever the hell he wanted.

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Speaker 1: The Spurrier Zone loved Steve Spurrier.

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Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, said you brought up Mike Tyson.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety six was also the year that he met

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Speaker 3: Evander Holyfield for the first time. The second time in

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven was the infamous biting incident. But here's

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Speaker 3: how the first fight between Tyson and holy Field ended.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 7: Six, Holy share day, I got her pretty shortness.

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Speaker 3: That was a t ko of Tyson by holy Field,

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Speaker 3: and up until that point that was just the second

913
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Speaker 3: time that Tyson had ever lost in forty some for fights. Obviously,

914
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Speaker 3: the first was to Buster Douglas in nineteen ninety and

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Speaker 3: then of course the ear biting incident would be the

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Speaker 3: following year.

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Speaker 1: And that's don't Oh we haven't even done movies, have we.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Independ's Day, Independence Day?

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Speaker 3: Oh, gosh, Independence Day? Well was that ninety six? Ninety Oh? No,

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Speaker 3: you're right, it was ninety six.

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Speaker 6: Good job, I got you.

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Speaker 3: Jerry maguire, Jerry McGuire. Titanic, Oh, I think Titanic was

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Speaker 3: ninety seven. I want to say sometimes there's some overlap. Yeah, Twister.

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Speaker 3: Oh that was a big one.

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Speaker 1: Original sister first Mission Impossible movie versus the Mission Ipossible movies.

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Speaker 6: It's a really good.

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Speaker 1: Right because that's back when Will Smith owned into Penn's day,

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Speaker 1: not just the movie, but he had well. It was

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Speaker 1: like four consecut years of the big blockbuster, back when

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Speaker 1: people used to go good movies. Patrick, people used to

932
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Speaker 1: plan on going to movies on the fourth of July

933
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Speaker 1: to see Will Smith. Anyway, it's a long time ago,

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Speaker 1: and that's don't call it throwback Thursday.

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Speaker 7: Don't call it a throwback Thursday.

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