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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. It's me your nam G Marcus

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Speaker 1: Grant alongside the Fantasy Hall of Famer Michael Faby. I

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Speaker 1: know the fantasy viper Graham Barfield in transit. We believe

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Speaker 1: from the East Coast, so he should be back with

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Speaker 1: us later on in the week. But we have survived.

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Speaker 1: We have survived the regular season. Actually, you're sporting an

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Speaker 1: Expose hat. It just caught me off guard. I said

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Speaker 1: it's one of the best most kick gas logos in

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Speaker 1: the history of sports. I have the I busted it out.

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Speaker 1: I have the Expos hat, the red, white and blue

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Speaker 1: I can do. Yeah. It just it caught me off guard.

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Speaker 1: I'm not used to seeing you outside of like a

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Speaker 1: Nationals Giants game. Once and I was like, well, I

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Speaker 1: exactly because they don't exist anymore exactly. So, Uh, we

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Speaker 1: have plenty to talk about. Of course, we will sort

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Speaker 1: of wrap up the twenty nineteen season, um talk about

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Speaker 1: some of the guys who were at their best, some

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Speaker 1: of the guys who work at their best, and we'll

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Speaker 1: try to figure out whether or not the guys can

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Speaker 1: repeat or get better next year. We're also kind of

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Speaker 1: start to touch on the Playoff Challenge for those of

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Speaker 1: you who kind of want to do something in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: We do have the Playoff Challenge here at NFL dot Com,

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Speaker 1: a chance for you to kind of keep going through

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Speaker 1: the postseason. And I believe it involves a chance to

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Speaker 1: win Super Bowl tickets. If I'm not mistakes, that's right.

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Speaker 1: So there you go, chances possibly go to the Super Bowl. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you get it right, it would be season February one. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot easier said than done to win this thing,

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Speaker 1: But we'll kind of touch on it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Maybe later in the week, we'll kind of dive into

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Speaker 1: some actual more strategy about it though. But before we

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Speaker 1: get into that, go behind the glass talk to our

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Speaker 1: favorite producer, Sene're Edward L. Murphy, a square back from

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Speaker 1: the East Coast. Murphy's going on, Yeah, I guess it's

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Speaker 1: it's good to good to see your faces. Uh, what

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Speaker 1: a wonderful morning to come back and podcast. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: news in my world. Are you happy about it though? Yes? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's confusing though because obviously they fired Pat Shermer, that's

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about, and they and then they say

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Speaker 1: they're gonna retain Uh, David Getleman as GM according to

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Speaker 1: John Marrick, so he wants him to be the GM

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Speaker 1: twenty I heard and make sure of you I am

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Speaker 1: rich reports that he may be an advisor. He may

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Speaker 1: like step down tomorrow because I believe using a press

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Speaker 1: it's a weird thing where you fire the clich we

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Speaker 1: keep the GM because I feel like, you know, according

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Speaker 1: to the media and a lot of Giants fans, you

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Speaker 1: feel like going to give out equal blame to both.

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Speaker 1: But it's a strange time. But you know, hopefully they

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Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens in there are. But there

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Speaker 1: let's start with some of these head coaching moves. As

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Speaker 1: Eddie mentioned, Pat Schrmer has been let go by the

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Speaker 1: He's like, hey, Brown's fired their coach. He actually knew

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Speaker 1: me head coach Jason Garrett's contract expires on January fourteenth,

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Speaker 1: saying that the Browns Uh, now we've heard already Ron

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Speaker 1: mentioned Kevin Stefanski, Josh McDaniels. You think McDaniels gets out

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Speaker 1: And he backed out of this one. Why all of

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Speaker 1: were bad, whether or not they can get better. Some

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00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 1: of the bad ones are gonna be fairly obvious here. Uh,

425
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: the top three quarterbacks when it's all said and done

426
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 1: for twenty nineteen, I mean, not a big surprise here.

427
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson actually finishes as number one. Uh, Dak Prescott

428
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: finishes as the number two. Ques isn't that insane? Right?

429
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: And and Russell Wilson slides in at number three. Deshaun

430
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: Watson kind of fell out of there because he didn't

431
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: play even Russell too because he was so bad, like

432
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: I mean, based on his previous standards down the stretch here, right. So, um,

433
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 1: but I don't have Dock in my top five quarterbacks

434
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: for next season. Maybe that's what that was. That's what

435
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, Right, It's like, you know, Dak Prescott,

436
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't say this was a magical season

437
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: for Dak, but he had a very good year. He

438
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 1: threw the football a lot um. Obviously things are going

439
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: to change in Dallas next year. I mean, okay, I

440
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: think everybody's gonna have Lamar Jackson pegg as a top

441
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: three quarterback next year. Right, Um, I I can see

442
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson kind of hanging around that top five because

443
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 1: that's what he does. I mean, was this was this

444
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: a one offer deck? Or is he legitimately a top

445
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 1: three fantasy quarterback? I don't think he's top three. I

446
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,239
Speaker 1: mean again, it's like I have the fifth spot, Right,

447
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: is going to go down to what your preferences from

448
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,719
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott, Josh Allen, and Kyler Murray. Right,

449
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: it's gonna be those guys, and those guys are all

450
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: gonna be in the top top eight. Let's put it

451
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: that way. But what we want from our players is consistency.

452
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: Um does a Week seventeen game against the Redskins even

453
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: mean anything in fantasy? I mean because we were not playing.

454
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: But his previous three games he was held under eighteen

455
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: Fantasy points. Uh he was Again, that was another player

456
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: who in Week sixteen killed me in one of my championships,

457
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: he only gave me eleven Uh. In against New England

458
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: he only had six point eight points. So he's had

459
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: big games, but there have been times where doc Is

460
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: also killed you. So but again, there there can be

461
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: only one Lamar Jackson. I guess at least this season

462
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: a guy who just every week was was pumping out

463
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: twenty thirty pointers, um for your fantasy team. But he's

464
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: borderline top five, Dock, he's borderline top five all right. Um,

465
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: So I'm I feel like there may be a new

466
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: name that slides in here, right and then at least

467
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: into the top five. Um. I'm just I'm looking right now,

468
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: right Like, so, Josh Allen was six, Kyler Murray was eight. Um,

469
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: I feel like those are two legitimate candidates to possibly

470
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: slide into being top five quarter no, no, no doubt,

471
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: no doubt, yeah, no doubt. And and we're starting to

472
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: see the young guy is now like Tom Brady is

473
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: not going to get drafted next year, Aaron Rodgins is

474
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: probably gonna end up getting picked outside of the top

475
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: one hunter for the first time. Probably Farv was playing

476
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 1: in Green Bay, right, Um, I mean, Drew Brees had

477
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: a fantastic finish to the season. I don't know if

478
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: he's he's probably at the end of the top ten.

479
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: I haven't done those rankings yet at this point. But

480
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: Kyler young guy. You know, Dac is still very young.

481
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's a young guy. And Lamar Jackson obviously, you

482
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: know coming off of his second season, which was brilliant.

483
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: So Deshaun Watson is also a young dude too, So

484
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,959
Speaker 1: I mean and and you're also seeing the trend of like,

485
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of these guys can run with

486
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: the football. I mean made yards and seven touchdowns. Dac

487
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: had three rushing touchdowns. Uh, DeShawn had seven rushing touchdowns,

488
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: Allen had nine. You almost high had four. You almost

489
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: have to be just because of how fast pass rushers

490
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: are now, right, Like You've got these these defensive ends

491
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: that are just so watching that that Seahawks Niners game

492
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: last night, I mean just kept remarking on how many

493
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: times Nick Bosa was chasing down Russell Wilson. Um. And

494
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: that speaks a lot to the athleticism of a lot

495
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: of these guys on the defensive line. It's nothing new,

496
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: but I think it's more pronounced now. And I think

497
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: it's hard to be a quarterback who just stands at

498
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: the post, it stands in the pocket and expects to

499
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: be successful. Um, it's on the flip side. Baker Mayfield,

500
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: oh boy, I mean he was the biggest quarterback bust.

501
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: He was. He was projected to be a top five

502
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: quarterback coming into the season. Um, he finishes as the

503
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: q B twenty had to you know, a few decent

504
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: games in the last two months of the season. Um,

505
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, yesterday ends up with twenty points. Even though

506
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: he threw three interceptions against the Bengals, He's still finished

507
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: with twenty points. Um, Obviously there's going to be a

508
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: major overhaul in Cleveland. He's okay. Does he get drafted

509
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: next year? In a lot of fans, I think he does.

510
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: I think he'll be. He'll be a QB two. Um,

511
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: he'll get drafted late. I mean he's gonna be. He's

512
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna be sort of in that same area with I mean,

513
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but it's gonna be. He's

514
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: gonna be drafted in the in the same area as like,

515
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: you know, the Carson Wentz is of the world and

516
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: the Kirk Cousins is of the world, and um, Aaron

517
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: Rodgers will go ahead of him. But Aaron Rodgers, I mean,

518
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: he wouldn't know that good this season either. So, uh,

519
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up being a late round pick. But

520
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: it also depends on your strategy to if you get

521
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: an elite quarterback, maybe you're not gonna draft a second

522
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: one and again, you know, what's the situation gonna be,

523
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: uh this is this is now his third head coach. Yeah,

524
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna have this third head coach. Uh in and

525
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: three years. So I don't know, maybe Colin cowarder is right, Yeah,

526
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: I mean who know, right, I mean I mean right,

527
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: I mean, like Colin Coward, I don't know if he

528
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: was rooting against Baker, But I'll tell you one thing.

529
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: It as bad as Baker was, Coward is probably you

530
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: know he had Yeah, he had an s eaton grin

531
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: on his face. Like I look at him, and I

532
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: look at Baker and I say, look, obviously his career

533
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: is just starting, right, I mean this was a year

534
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: two and so there's still there's still time. But man,

535
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: they were just moment. It's when it just looked so bad. Yeah,

536
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean the offensive line was bad too. That didn't

537
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: help him. So maybe they need to, you know, potentially

538
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: make some upgrades there. But that's gonna be a hard

539
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a hard team to project because of

540
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: the names and the potential. But then you look back

541
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: at the failures and if Kareem Hunt, I don't know

542
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: that Kareem Hunt is under contract next season. I looked

543
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: that up. I'm not sure. I'd also want to take

544
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: a look at this. Uh and and I'll probably do

545
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: this in in my hundred and fifty fantasy facts from

546
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: from He was not nearly as reliable once Hunt came

547
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: back to suspension, because it was not another guy who

548
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: cost me a championship. Part of it was that before

549
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: Hunt came back, Chubb had a pretty significant role in

550
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: the passing game. He caught a number of passes. Once

551
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt came back, then that went away. And yes,

552
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt will be a free agent. He will be

553
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: a restricted free agent. Uh, you know whenever free agency opened. So,

554
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: I mean, let's look at the numbers. You know that

555
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb put up. I mean Kareem Hunt came back

556
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: in Week ten against Buffalo. So after that, so Week ten,

557
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: Chubb at fourteen, Then he had nine, Then he had

558
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: twenty five at the big game against the Miami Dolphins.

559
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: Then he had eight, twelve against Arizona, four and five.

560
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: So he was lousy more often than he was great

561
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: when Kareem Hunt came back. Yeah, even though he'll end

562
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: up second in the rushing title, I'm so happy for

563
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. What did the Titans not see? And like

564
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: me here when they like weren't giving him the football,

565
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: what did they not see? Yeah? Who know that dude

566
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: is you can't That's that's like freaking tackle in a locomotive.

567
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean I was just on thever forget when he

568
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: came through the office and and I just just marveled

569
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: at how big he was. The guy had eighteen touchdowns,

570
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: rushed for over fifteen hundred yards, and you ended up being,

571
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: you know, one of the you know, one of the

572
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: five best running backs in fantasy football, and he's gonna

573
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: be a top five pick next season. But but but

574
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: in his can hear the titanest us because they had

575
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: gone out and they had spent a lot to bring

576
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: in Dion Lewis, and I felt like he was going

577
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: to be the guy, and they, I know, they wanted

578
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: to try to do a thunder and lightning sort of thing,

579
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: especially after what Lewis had done in New England. Um,

580
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: it just wasn't the same. It just didn't work out. Uh,

581
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: all right, so running backs the top three at the

582
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: running back position, no one's going to be surprised to

583
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: hear that Christian McCaffrey was number one. Uh, Aaron Jones

584
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: was number two. Ezekiel Elliott slides in there and just

585
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: overtakes Austin Ekeler for the third spot. Um, maybe I'll

586
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: extend this because because Ekeler, I think it is an

587
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: interesting thing to talk about, the interesting guy to talk about. Uh.

588
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: With this season, I mean, you know what I want

589
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: to find out, Marcus two started to cut you. I wonder,

590
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's the fewest rushing yards are running

591
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: back who finished in the top five has ever had.

592
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look that up. I'll be in my that

593
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: would be in my one, I would I would have

594
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: to think so, because I mean only recently has PPR

595
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: become widespread enough for this to be a thing. For

596
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: a while, PPR is kind of a niche, a niche format,

597
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: but now it is sort of it's widespread. And yeah,

598
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean before if you had five and fifty seven

599
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: rushing yards, you were nowhere near the top five. It

600
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: just wasn't gonna happen. Um McCaffrey obviously everybody's got him pegged.

601
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: It's a top three guy next year. I think, Zeke

602
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: if you told if you went to somebody and saying,

603
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: I think Zeke's gonna be a top three running back

604
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: next year. Nobody is gonna look at you sideways. Um,

605
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: Karen Jones. I think it's sort of an interesting case

606
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: because touchdowns, touchdowns, right, nineteen total touchdowns this year. That's

607
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: a really hard number to duplicate. The rushing yards were fine,

608
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: just over just just short of eleven hundred. The receiving

609
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: yards were fine, just under five hundred. They weren't. Those

610
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: numbers don't blow you away. It's the nineteen touchdowns that

611
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: for me makes it hard to imagine him as a

612
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: top three, top five back next year. And also Neckler similarly,

613
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: like the rushing numbers weren't there, but maybe with Melvin

614
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: Gordon out of the way, those numbers go up a

615
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: little bit. Oh you would think so yeah, no, no question.

616
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean obviously they have to bring somebody somebody in

617
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 1: there too. I don't know that you would have like

618
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: a one in one a like you have with Gordon

619
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: and Neckler. But I mean he proved before Gordon came

620
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: back that he could he could be a feature back,

621
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 1: that he can get the job done. The Charges are

622
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: a team that could end up making significant changes because

623
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is no locked to be their quarterback season

624
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: and Melon Gordon is clearly not going to be back

625
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: unless there is a huge just changing of opinions on him,

626
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: because that's exactly you know why he held out, because

627
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: they weren't going to pay him, and that's ultimately what

628
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna want is to get to get paid. So

629
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: the cool thing is that if you think about it,

630
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: with the with the number of openings in backfields across

631
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: the NFL right now, with the kids coming in draft

632
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: and Gordon on the move expected to be a featured back,

633
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: which opens up a feature job for Heckler and David Johnson,

634
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: but eventually ending up maybe Tampa Bay. Right, So Kenyan

635
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: Drake would be a feature back in Arizona, you'd have

636
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: featured back in in Tampa Bay and David Johnson. It

637
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: could make the running back position a lot of fun

638
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: next season, a lot of fun. So you mentioned David Johnson, right.

639
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: Obviously this year was pretty awful for him. I mean,

640
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: he got hurt for a couple of weeks, but then

641
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: just for a long stretch of the season he was

642
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: just irrelevant there in in Arizona. I'm not expecting him

643
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: to suddenly jump back and be a top five guy,

644
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: even if he goes to Tampa Bay and becomes a

645
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: workhorse there. But can we see him possibly being a

646
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: a fringe RB one, a solid RB two next year

647
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: at least have some value Again, you're talking about Gordon.

648
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: Uh damn David Johnson. David Johnson all sorry, um, dude,

649
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: if he goes to Tampa Bay, I could see him

650
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: being the top fifteen back. I mean I said it

651
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: on TV. He had his best seasons with Bruce Arians

652
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: in Arizona, and it's not like he's had a lot

653
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: of work the last couple of seasons. Think talent is unquestionable,

654
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: durability is an issue, and if he goes to Area,

655
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, Arians just made Jameis Winston the top

656
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: five six quarterback thirty interceptions. He's I mean, he's a

657
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: guy who who pumps out you know, productive fantasy players.

658
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: He's done it his whole career, whether he has been

659
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: a head coach or in o C. So I could

660
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: totally see David Johnson being the top fifteen back. Doesn't

661
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: mean I'm gonna draft him in the top forty, right,

662
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: But it depends on where he ends up because Arizona

663
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: is certainly not going to be his home, uh in

664
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: at least you wouldn't think so based on the lack

665
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: of usage in the second half of the season. He's

666
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: not a terribly old guy, right, he just turned eighty,

667
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: and it's not like he's got a lot of wear

668
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: and tear. He had like he had, you know, the

669
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: one huge year where he had a ton of work.

670
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: He has two seasons. So here here his touch totals

671
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: for his career, right, and that that year he was

672
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: mostly a special teams guy for Arizona. Teen was his

673
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: huge year. He had three hundred and seventy three touches.

674
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: That's when he went over the twenty touchdowns. Seen he

675
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: gets hurt in the first game, has just seventeen touches

676
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: for the year, mrs. The entire season teen he comes

677
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: back three and eight touches. Not a bad year. I

678
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: mean the hundred total yards, ten touchdowns, I mean it

679
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: was okay um and then this year a hundred and

680
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: thirty touches. So he's only had two seasons where he's

681
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: had three hundred touches. It's just not a not a

682
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: lot of work for him. So he just has to

683
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: stay healthy and get exactly and that and that is

684
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, that's sort of like the downfalls, like he

685
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: needs to stay healthy. But you didn't mention Melvin Gordon.

686
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: And and look obviously he had the holdout which which

687
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: cost him with the first four games of the season

688
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: something like that. Um, he got kind of banged up

689
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: a little bit, still finishes as the running back. Twenty

690
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: three runs hard, can be productive, can find the end zone.

691
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: I keep saying, I would love to see him go

692
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 1: to like Houston. Seriously, No, I'm right there with dude.

693
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm right here with you. They don't have they don't

694
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: have a running back they're investing in right now. So

695
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: and looking at looking at Gordon's Gordon's numbers, he was

696
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: averaging fifteen Fantasy points per game. I mean, not great, No,

697
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: but you'll take it as an RB two. And also

698
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: keep in mind that he was sharing some of that

699
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: work with Austin Ekeler Gordon in a featured role. Could

700
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: he end up being a second round pick next season? Yeah, absolutely,

701
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not an old dude. No, I mean,

702
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: and I would think that if if the Texans were

703
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: to do this and and obviously this is a big

704
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: if we don't know anything. But do they do they

705
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: move on from the combination of Carlos Hide and Duke

706
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: Johnson because both those guys seemed like sort of fill ins.

707
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they were guys that you they added them

708
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: because they had to. Lamar Miller gets hurt. Uh and Millar,

709
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: by the way, is a free agent. He will be

710
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: a free agent coming up this year. So I can

711
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: see them like sort of moving on from one or

712
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: both of those guys Johnson and and Hide. It's sort

713
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: of giving the backfield to mel and Gordon, which would

714
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: be just fine, be fine. I mean, heck, Carlos Hyde

715
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: had he had a good season, Like I mean, it

716
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: wasn't great, but like people in especially in the industry,

717
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: were like Carlos Hide his garbage's kind of like he's terrible.

718
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: And Carlos had ended up having a decent season, like

719
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean, like he wasn't you know, he didn't have

720
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: the same kind of season he had in San Francisco

721
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: when he was a top ten fantasy running back. But

722
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: he was, he was, he was the running back thirty

723
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: based on points. But I mean he helped you at times.

724
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: He rushed for a thousand yards for his first ever

725
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: career thousand yards season, So I mean it could have

726
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: been that bad. He certainly had some games where he

727
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: really helped you. This season. He wasn't reliable, but that

728
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: was kind of the thing. Put Melvin Gordon in that spot.

729
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon rushed, which would that helps and not that

730
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, Deshaun Watson is bad. He's been inconsistent. But man,

731
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: you get DeShawn Watson, you get New Copkins, you get

732
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon on one offense. Yeah, that's that's pretty pretty good. Um.

733
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm trying to look at any guys, any guys that

734
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: are outside of the top five. I mean, Dalvin Cook

735
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: finishes at six, he stays healthy, he can be a

736
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: top five guy, I think easily. Um. Leonard four Net,

737
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 1: I thought was an interesting case. Seventy six receptions this year.

738
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: You have three touchdowns and that's what kept him I

739
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: think out of the top which is weird too because

740
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: you didn't go into the year expecting the catches, but

741
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: you did go in expecting touchdowns, right right, you got

742
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: the opposite um and then Alvin Kamara, who it didn't

743
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: help a lot of people, but the last two he

744
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: scored four touchdowns in his last two games and his

745
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: first in his first four um in one game. I still,

746
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: I still contend that Alvin Kamara is gonna slip to

747
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 1: like the late second round next year and late second.

748
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm just looking. I only say. I only say that

749
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: based on my super science if it can never be wrong.

750
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: On Twitter poll that I put out there and there,

751
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: and the responses I got back were I mean, I

752
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: got a lot of you know, when did you posted that?

753
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: Did you post it like in a week when people

754
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: had lost because of it? Might have post did it

755
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: during the week sixteen games? Right? And it's after we

756
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: talked about it on the podcast, like a week or

757
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: so ago. I posted it, and I got a lot

758
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: of understandably frustrated and angry responses back. I mean, people

759
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: were like, I won't touch him before the third I

760
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: won't touch him before the fifth. Some people said they

761
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't touch him before the fifth round, which is insane

762
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 1: to me. People are over like living in the moment,

763
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: like completely, and so maybe that's what where I say

764
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: like late second and it may be early second, but

765
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna end up being a draft steal

766
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: next year. I can't. I don't think there'll be a

767
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: draft where he doesn't get picked in the first round

768
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna participate in May. I mean, maybe that's

769
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: the case, Like I know that never the first round.

770
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: We're saying this on December thirty, right, so you know,

771
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: seven months from now, at the end of July, Uh,

772
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: it may may well be a different story. People are

773
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: just people are hurt right now. People are frustrated, and

774
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: they're just sort of lashing out. By the way, he

775
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: had thirteen passing yards. That has nothing to do with anything.

776
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: I just saw that. That was interesting. Um So I

777
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: think he could easily he could contend to be your

778
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: top five. You know, who was hurt for a little

779
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: while is going to be that. If McCaffrey is the

780
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: consensus one, say, Kwan will be the consensus to Yeah,

781
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: I mean he did s Kuan was just not right.

782
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: He wasn't for man. I mean, the ankle, like you

783
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: don't get back from a high ankle sprain as quickly

784
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: as he did. His final three games. He had thirty points,

785
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: forty three points. He mean, he he won. He won championships.

786
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: For people who are able to sort of you know,

787
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: you could navigate, get through the storm of him being unreliable.

788
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: There you got him to the championship and boom, home

789
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: run you knocked it out. So all right, Uh, wide

790
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: receivers the top three, no shock, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin,

791
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: who even know, missing the last couple of games with

792
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: an injury, finished at number two. Who wheel Jones sneaks

793
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: in with a hot finish, with a hot finish and

794
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: gets the number three. And so I think this is

795
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: sort of interesting, right because one starr with Michael Thomas

796
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: obviously gonna be the first receiver off the board. How

797
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: high does he go? Is he a top three pick

798
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: next year? You know me? I mean I know you,

799
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: but like i'd say, I'd say, i'd say five or six,

800
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: like you're gonna get You're gonna get into like do

801
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: I draft Derrick Henry or Michael Thomas. And then that's

802
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: going to be you know, sort of where he'll go

803
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: in drafts, depending on what people think of him and

804
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: his his uh you know, perspectives for for the upcoming season. Um,

805
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up being top eight across the board.

806
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: He will be next season's you know New Copkins where

807
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: New Copkins was like, oh, he's the only wide receiver

808
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: with the first round pick. Now, it's gonna be Michael

809
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: Thomas's absolutely, I mean I could see him being a

810
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: top five pick. But again, magical season. I mean, like

811
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: so like he had a hundred forty nine catches that

812
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: broke a record, and you know the saint that I

813
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: have anybody else outside of Jared Cook that was that

814
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: was a reliable option for for Drew Brees there. Um,

815
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: and imagine if they brought in Antonio Brown, well that

816
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: would be that would be an issue. I'm curious what

817
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: they do at wide receiver in the off season, like

818
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: if they you know, if they going free agency, if

819
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: they try to drap somebody, because they do as great

820
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: as Michael Thomas is, they've they've got to get some help.

821
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: They got something else, yeah, I mean, and and they

822
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: made some moves you know over the last couple of

823
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: years that didn't really work out for him. Um, and

824
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: they're still looking for that number two yeah. So um.

825
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: And so the other part, right Julio Jones is every

826
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: year he's you know, he's hanging around that top five.

827
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: He's maybe a top three guy. And you want to

828
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: talk about guys who are are sort of roller coasters, right.

829
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy who will have the huge

830
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: blow up game and they'll have some games that are

831
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: just sort of men. Yeah, he had a Julio season.

832
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: A lot of yards, not a lot of touch not

833
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: a lot of touchdowns. Um, I mean he would go

834
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: along he went. But he scored touchdowns in his first

835
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: three games, had one week one, two two in week two,

836
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: one in week three, and then he only had one

837
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: game where he scored the rest. Didn't score another touchdown

838
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: until Week fifteen, when he had two against the forty

839
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: niners and that was it. Um. I I don't know

840
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: how to value Julio Jones because the catch of the

841
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: targets will be there, the catches will be there, the

842
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: yards will be there. You just have to sort of manage.

843
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: I think he's another He's a guy where and I

844
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: know Graham talks a lot about roster management and draft

845
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: strategy and that sort of thing. I feel like Julio

846
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: Jones is that guy where you draft him if you're

847
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: taking him stay in the second round. You follow that

848
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: up with, say a you maybe a Cooper Cup in

849
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: the next round, because you know Cooper Cup is gonna

850
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: be more consistent. He's gonna have maybe a safer floor

851
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: week to week. So that way when Julio has those

852
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, not so great weeks, you have somebody else

853
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: to sort of balance that. Yeah, I mean Julio is

854
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: gonna be in that and that whole second round sort

855
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: of a log jam of wide receivers that we see

856
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: all the time, like Davante Adams might might end up

857
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: going end of the first round and a twelve teamer.

858
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: But you know, you're gonna see Godwin's going to go

859
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: in the second round, and you're gonna see Julio probably

860
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: in the second round. Mike Evans will be in the

861
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: second round, knew probably end of the first beginning of

862
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: the second round. There's gonna be that log jam there

863
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: of players the position. I think Kenny Galladay could push

864
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: himself into maybe the end of the second round, the

865
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: beginning of the third round. Tyreek Hill will be a

866
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: second round pick as well, so he's in there. You're

867
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: not getting any younger, but he's still putting up numbers. Right,

868
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: Godwin goes ahead of Evans next to you, Right, I

869
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: feel like that's yeah, that's gonna be the consensus. Godwin

870
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: goes first, w I would think, So, I think I

871
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: mean they were wicked tight. I mean, like Godwin, Well,

872
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: Godwin averaged seven uh and Evans average seventeen nine, so

873
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: it was close. But um, I'd say Godwan goes before him. Yeah, yeah,

874
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean I think both. And he had thirty three

875
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: yards and nine touchdowns and missed you know games at

876
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: the end of the season. So I mean Evans was

877
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: tremendous as well, but I think Godwin will go ahead

878
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: of him. Yeah. All right, let's finish up with the

879
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: tight ends here, uh there top three, Travis Kelsey, number one,

880
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: George Kittle number two, Darren Waller uh fall as number

881
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: He would end up being the best tight end value

882
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: in fantasy football easily, easily because I'm sure he didn't

883
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: get drafted in a lot of leagues, and if he

884
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: did get drafted, it was super late, um like end

885
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: of draft sort of thing. So he's easily the best

886
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: best value at tight end. Zach Ertz finishes at number four.

887
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: Um Ark Andrews so we all like the managers at five.

888
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like, you know, if he if

889
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: he plays weeks seventeen, he probably gets that that third spot. Whatever. Um, right,

890
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: So next year, how do we feel about Darren Waller?

891
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: Next year? I I was talking to I would play?

892
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: Is he gonna play for the Raiders? Well, here's the thing,

893
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: so I was. I was on UM. I was on

894
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: the Football die Hard Show with our pal Bob Harris

895
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: and Mike dem C, two great guys, and they were

896
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: asking me what I thought about the tight ends next

897
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: year and if I would rank my top three and

898
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: I had his my top three. I had in order

899
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: Kiddle number one, Kelsey number two, Earth's number three, And

900
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 1: they asked me about Waller and Andrew's going four five,

901
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: and how would I rank them. My thought at the

902
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: time was I would put Andrews ahead of Waller just

903
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: because I know who Mark Andrew's quarterback is going to

904
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: be next year. I know it's going to be Lamar Jackson.

905
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: I know he's going to get those looks. I don't

906
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: know who's going to be playing quarterback for the Las

907
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. And yes, the Las Vegas Raiders. How many

908
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: times I'm gonna mess it up? How many times are

909
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: we gonna mess that up? Like screw it up? I

910
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: mean not everybody, I mean I still people on the

911
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers exactly. So yeah, I'm gonna screw that up.

912
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: But I don't know who's going to be the Las

913
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders quarterback next year. And that gives me a

914
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: little hesitation about Darren Waller. I mean, I don't know

915
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: that is that fair? No, it is of course a

916
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: big part of uh, you know, the guy's value is

917
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: going to be who's throwing the football to him. And

918
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean Derek Carr still, you know, he's still in

919
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: our contract until right but who knows, um, what else

920
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: is out there? I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

921
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: But Waller showed. I mean, this guy a lot of

922
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: people of the preseason and the fantasy community we're talking

923
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: about him, and he was. He met and exceeded expectations.

924
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: And I mean, right now, all the things being equal,

925
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: he's he's a you know, top five or six tight end,

926
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: no doubt about it, right Um. And then in the position,

927
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: the position potentially and you know, like we said, this season,

928
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: this position is driving us nuts. It's awful. It's so thin.

929
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: It gained a little weight this season. It did. You

930
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: got Kelsey, got Kidle, you got Hooper, you got Hurt,

931
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: you got Andrews and Waller, Evan Ingram. I mean he's

932
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: talented this hell, he just can't stay healthy. Hunter Henry

933
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: is a damn good titan. Jared Cook was really good again.

934
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee an elite Fantasy tight end in the last

935
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: five weeks, elite enough that he finished as the tight

936
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: end eight. It's been I know, it's bananas. He finishes

937
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: the tight end eight based on essentially the last five

938
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: to the season, his last five weeks twenty three points,

939
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: eighteen points, twenty three nineteen twenty two. So the position,

940
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: maybe you would think that Hawkinson makes a little bit

941
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: of a leap. If Hawkinson can take us, you would

942
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: think pant makes a little bit of a leap. Mike

943
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: Asiki started with a little bit of a leap, and

944
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: so did Dallas Goddard. So the position, Johnny Smith could

945
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: end up making a leap. He's gonna end up be

946
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: in a deep state. I don't know that Delanney Walker

947
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: is going to be back at his age, and in the

948
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons he's been banged up, he's

949
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: missed time. So Johnny Smith might end up being a

950
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: guy who is one of those like you know, maybe

951
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: not as good as a Mark Andrews from nineteen, but

952
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: he could be a guy that you dropped as a

953
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: tight end two who could potentially move up into the

954
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: top twelve. So which leads me to the flip side

955
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: of this. Looks, by the way, didn't talk about Odell

956
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: being on the bad side of this and whether or

957
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: not he can be good next year. I know we're talking.

958
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: We talked about Baker Mayfield. I think he will be.

959
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it just depends on the

960
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: the the offensive coordinator and we're not to getting the balls.

961
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: But speaking of tight ends, the flip side of that

962
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: was O. J. Howard, a guy that we all liked,

963
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: that we thought was going to be huge and just wasn't.

964
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: Uh really just was was persona on grown for a

965
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: long time. Cameron braid Uh ended up having a better

966
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: Fantasy year than O J. Howard. The the talent is undeniable,

967
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: the opportunity just never seemed to present itself. So are

968
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: we are we going to buy back in obviously at

969
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: a much different draft price next year? But do we

970
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: buy back in on O J. Howard? Where's he gonna play?

971
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: I mean presumably he's still I mean still on his

972
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: workie contract, right, I know. But I mean, like, and

973
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: I'll do an offseason sort of wish list from a

974
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: fantasy perspective, of course, And I wouldn't mind saying, O. J.

975
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: Howard go to New England. Interesting? Interesting? I mean they

976
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: could use pass catchers, so and we know what they

977
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: can do with the talented tied end. He's in his

978
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: final year. He'll be his final year. Uh, and then

979
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: they have the fifth year option because because his rookie

980
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: dear I have, they have a fixture, right, So I

981
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: mean that could that could be interesting, although again Tom

982
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: Brady is not Tom Brady anymore. But I mean there's

983
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: also that, um that's that's going to be an interesting

984
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: one too, because and I am going to look heavily

985
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: at tight end this offseason, right because I we're all

986
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: frustrated with it, right, and I just want to see

987
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: if there's a way we can unlock this, that we

988
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: can find depth, because I know we've talked about it,

989
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: and like, I'm looking at maybe maybe twelve guys that

990
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: you can start and feel comfortable with week after week.

991
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: The problem comes if one of those guys gets hurt

992
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: or one of those guys underperformed I mean, can Austin

993
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: Hooper do what he did this year again next year? Right?

994
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: And I know he was hurt for a while, but

995
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: when he played, he was damn he was the number

996
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: one tight end when he when he went down with

997
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: the Injuri Yeah, yeah, you know, can he do this

998
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: again next year? Or was this a flash in the pan? Right?

999
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Jered Cook has been nice the last couple

1000
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: of years, but he's an older player. I mean, it

1001
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: took him a while to kind of get going. Can

1002
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: he continue to be productive? Um? You know what happens

1003
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: when Gerald Everett comes back? Does that cut into Tyler

1004
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Higbee's production a little bit more? Can zach Ertz and

1005
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard coexist and both be productive? So these are

1006
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: things I think I want to kind of dive into

1007
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: this offseason and see what happens next year. Interesting? Alright,

1008
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: we'll talk play more about that as the off season

1009
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 1: goes along, because we've got plenty of time now, uh,

1010
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: and we still will be doing at least for a while,

1011
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: doing two pods a week. We'll figure out what happens

1012
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: after the playoffs. Stay tuned. Um, speaking of the playoffs,

1013
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: there's no more game of Thrones to talk about, no

1014
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: more Game of Thrones to talk about. I know, like

1015
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: there's you know, any of us talking about this a

1016
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, like just amongst us, Like that might

1017
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: be the last show for a while that just captures

1018
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: the collective public interest. Now there's like there's so many

1019
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: shows on so many platforms and streaming Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Showtime.

1020
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: There's so many different shows that it's gonna be really

1021
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: hard for one show to just capture everybody in the

1022
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: way Game of Thrones did. Uh. So this might be that,

1023
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know until we find something. I

1024
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: don't know, we'll find something to talk about. Who knows?

1025
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: Uh Off Challenge. If you haven't played before, just a

1026
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: quick rundown of how this works. Uh, it is akin

1027
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: to starting it to to playing a DFS lineup right

1028
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: where you can pick any guys on any teams that

1029
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: are in the playoffs. The twist to this, though, is

1030
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 1: if you maintain the same players in your lineup each week,

1031
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: you get multipliers. So if you start a guy uh

1032
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: in in the wild card round and you get team wins,

1033
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: and you keep him in the visual round, you get

1034
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: double the points and next week you get triple the

1035
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: points and potentially up to four times the point of

1036
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: that team or that player goes all the way to

1037
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. So that's the trick there. You basically

1038
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: want to find teams that you think are going to

1039
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: make a long run in the postseason with players that

1040
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: are going to be productive, and that is how you

1041
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: succeed at the playoff challenge. So what kind of dive

1042
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: into matches maybe later on in the week, uh and

1043
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 1: kind of figure out like you know who to play

1044
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: where and what have you. But I'm looking at just

1045
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: some of the big overall questions that you know are

1046
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: as much about the NFL playoffs as they are about

1047
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: the playoff challenge. The first one seems simple, like is

1048
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: there any other quarterback besides the mar Jackson that you're

1049
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: picking in this one right now? I mean, if you

1050
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: want to be a contrarian, and a lot of times

1051
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: that's how you want sometimes it works in playoff challenge

1052
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: you want to I mean, if you've got a team

1053
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: in mind, like say you're really high on the Titans

1054
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: and you think they go from the wild card all

1055
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: the way to the ANFC Championship game with then you know,

1056
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: maybe Tannhel's. But I mean Lamar Jackson's he's going to

1057
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: be that. He's gonna be in every free outside number

1058
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: one Patriots and Chiefs fans. Hey, but even some of them, Man,

1059
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: if they're you know, if they're trying to win, well,

1060
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: if Patriots fans want to be honest with themselves, you're

1061
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: trying to win. Your team is not that good? Um,

1062
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: not that good? Then then hey man, you're you're gonna

1063
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: make that happen. It's lost to the Dolphins in week

1064
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: sevent team and the Packers. The Packers aren't that good either.

1065
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: I said that yesterday Twitter. I got attacked. Well, Packer fan,

1066
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: Packer Nation, You're not that Packer is trying to you are?

1067
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: You are a weak number two seed? Packer fans are.

1068
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: They're trying to they're trying to come to terms with

1069
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: some things right now. You know it's it's it's not

1070
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: it's not what they wanted to be or they're thirteen

1071
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: and three, but maybe not the way they wanted it

1072
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: to be. Right And you know, you look through you

1073
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: look through the schedule, right and and number one Aaron

1074
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: Rodgers now look like Aaron Rodgers. Okay, he was overthrown

1075
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: dude left and right. Yeah, now, let's let's go through there.

1076
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: There their schedule, right, Okay, they beat the Bears, the

1077
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: Bears are not that good. They beat the Vikings, Okay,

1078
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: beat the Broncos, they're not that good. You beat the Eagles.

1079
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: Are You lost to the Eagles and they're not that good.

1080
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: You beat the Cowboys, they're not that good. You beat

1081
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: Detroit and Oakland to crap teams. Now, they did beat

1082
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: Kansas City in Kansas City, But was that without Mahomes.

1083
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: Let's see, let's let's let's pull up the box score,

1084
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: because that might have been without Mahomes, that might have

1085
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: been with Matt Moore. And if it was you one.

1086
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: But I feel like I feel like I was projecting

1087
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: that the one by a touchdown, that the Viking or

1088
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: the Packer defense was a good So then Matt Moore

1089
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: was the quarterback in that game. Yeah, I don't think

1090
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: I would have I don't think I would have recommended that.

1091
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: I was, no doubt was the starting quarterback. You lost

1092
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: to the chart Ers, who are not that good. You

1093
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: beat the Panthers, they're not that good. You got the ship.

1094
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: It was Matt more so, so they lose that game

1095
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: if my homes as the quarterback. They got decimated by

1096
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: the Niners. They beat the Giants, they stink. They beat

1097
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: the Redskins, they stink. They beat the Bears, they stink.

1098
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: They beat the Lions, the Vikings, the Vikings are, you know?

1099
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: And then they barely beat the Lions, who are awful. Well,

1100
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: they have to come from behind to beat the Lions.

1101
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: They were down fourteen. Nothing that David were they were?

1102
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: They were back by the way, Backer fans, listen, Hey,

1103
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm a Cowboys fan, and I know my team sucked

1104
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: after we lost to the Jets. I knew it. I

1105
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: can come out and say it that the Cowboys are

1106
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: not a good team this year. A lot of talent,

1107
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: not a good team. The Packers get home field, and

1108
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: God bless him, the team that comes in there might

1109
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: tune them up. By the way. Uh, David blow, dude,

1110
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: you you caught a touchdown paths like, don't throw the

1111
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 1: ball in the stands A hold on that ball, man,

1112
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna want the thing back so again. So you know,

1113
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: the the NFC, I feel like the Saints, the Saints

1114
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: and the Niners of the teams to be just which

1115
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: teams Saints and the Niners, and and I hope to

1116
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: God that we see that in the NFC Championship game

1117
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: and the resta don't screw it up this time, because

1118
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: well they are. I mean, look, here's the thing. I

1119
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: feel like we should just start every every NFL game

1120
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: day and everybody just puts out there, Oh my god,

1121
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: I can't believe the refs missed that call. Tweet Let's

1122
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: just get it out of the way. Let's just get

1123
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: it out of the way, right, just get out of

1124
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: the way early. Like I can't believe the rest of

1125
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: it is that call. We'll just we'll just all tweet

1126
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: that it kick off and then we'll all feel better

1127
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: when the game is over. Um. Yeah, I mean, are

1128
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: there any other NFC teams besides Saints Niners that you

1129
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: feel like have a legit shot? I mean, like you

1130
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: believe in the Seahawks. I feel like they they're No,

1131
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: I don't don't. They're too injured, man. I mean they

1132
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: had to bring in two guys off the street. I mean,

1133
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: one of those Marshall Lynch. But it was funny see

1134
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: him play. Yeah, I mean we're not looking at you know,

1135
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: the middle of his career sort of in his prime.

1136
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: Marshall Lynche, I don't the NFL is weird. I get it,

1137
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: Like it's like I can't see the Eagles winning the game,

1138
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: but I mean, you know, I mean you never know,

1139
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: like I mean, you never know. But I mean, if

1140
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: as a fan a football there is nothing more that

1141
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: I would like to see then Baltimore in Kansas City

1142
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: and New Orleans and San Francisco in their respective conference championship.

1143
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: By the way, we really legitimately could get nine or

1144
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: Seahawks three into Yeah, I know that that is a

1145
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: legitimate possibility that they could be back at at Levi

1146
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: Stadium in Santa Clara in a couple of weeks, playing

1147
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: for the third time this year. WO should be interesting.

1148
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: The first two games were very entertaining and they split

1149
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: the first two. This is sort of the rubber match

1150
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: and see who moves on. Yeah, yeah, and uh, you know,

1151
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: we can we can take a look at these matchups

1152
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: on Friday a little bit later in the week and

1153
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: Tense he's gonna beat I think Tens he's gonna beat.

1154
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: That's gonna be I feel like that's going to be

1155
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: the upset special that everybody is going which means it's

1156
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: definitely not gonna happen. Are there any of the wild

1157
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: card teams? I know, obviously you don't believe in the

1158
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: wild card teams in the NFC, any wild card teams

1159
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: in the a f C. I mean, I guess technically

1160
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: the well, the Titans are a division winner, right, No, no, No,

1161
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: it's actually like the Titans potentially could could win a

1162
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: game or two, right, that's the that's the and I

1163
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: said this yesterday, like I posted on that's the one

1164
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: team in the a f C you don't want to

1165
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: play because they have a lot of confidence. Their quarterback

1166
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 1: is playing and you guys, he's playing at an m

1167
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: v P level and he has been for half the season.

1168
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: Look at Tannehill's numbers and he has led this team

1169
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: to how many wins since he's been back? They've lost

1170
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: on one or two games since he's since they lost

1171
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: to the Saints. I don't I'm not, I don't remember

1172
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: if they lost another game. But he's been playing tremendous football.

1173
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: Tremendous football, dude. They lost, They've lost twice. They lost

1174
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: they lost one of the Texans and they lost to

1175
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: the SATs. I mean, he's what seven and two or

1176
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: something like that as a starter somewhere in that neighborhood.

1177
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: It's been pretty good. If you want to go with

1178
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: a sleeper team in the a f C and playoff challenge,

1179
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: I think it's the Titans. Yeah, I mean, I think

1180
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: I think that's the closest thing you're gonna have a sleeper.

1181
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: They gave New Orleans all they could handle. They were

1182
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: they they couldn't hold the lead. I mean, their defense

1183
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: is has got some issues. I really think I'm looking

1184
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: at the Titans are a team that that could that

1185
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: could surprise some people. I'm looking at the wild card

1186
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: teams and yeah, they are the one that jumps right.

1187
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: The Vikings don't jump out of me. Buffalo, the Bills

1188
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: are a nice story. If they're They're a fun story.

1189
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: I think they overachieved in a lot of ways this year,

1190
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: and credit to to Sean McDermott and what they've done

1191
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: there in Buffalo. Um. I mean the fact that they

1192
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: legitimately had a chance to win the a f C East.

1193
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: It's been a while since we've said said that about

1194
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: another team not called the Patriots, So props to them. Um,

1195
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be totally surprised if they win on Saturday,

1196
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: because the Texans seemed good to gag up a a

1197
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: wild card round game that just seems to be there.

1198
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: You know their wants. Um, But I don't know if

1199
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: the Bills have enough offense. I mean, I think we

1200
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 1: saw that against the Patriots a couple of weeks ago,

1201
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: where you know their their defense can keep them in games.

1202
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that they have quite enough offense yet

1203
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: to go out and win. Game is in the playoffs,

1204
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: so I mean you're just going on Niners, right, and

1205
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: playoff Chalanese are going onliners. I don't know. I don't know.

1206
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I may load up very heavily

1207
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: on on Ravens, right, I mean Lamar Jackson, mark Ingram.

1208
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: I think my my tight end's probably gonna be George Kittle. Um.

1209
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: I think here's the thing. The wide receivers are where

1210
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: you I sort of run into issues, right, I mean

1211
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: maybe Deebo Samuel on one side. I don't I don't

1212
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: mean you don't want to play Hollywood, right. I mean,

1213
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: even even if you really think you're gonna get like

1214
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: the quadruple multiplier and he goes to the Super Bowl.

1215
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 1: But I mean, what is he What is he gonna

1216
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: give you? That's the thing. It's like you need him

1217
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: to score touchdowns because the targets just aren't there for him.

1218
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: But like what Thomas is a lock? Like, I mean,

1219
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: he's Michael. See. That's the thing. Michael Thomas is a lock.

1220
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: But you the good thing is that the Saints have

1221
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: this game at home in the first round, and assuming

1222
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: that the Packers, I think the Packers are gonna I'm

1223
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: just saying I think the Packers are there. I wouldn't

1224
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: play any Packers in the playoff challenge, even Davante Adams.

1225
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: He's the only guy that I would consider. Well, maybe

1226
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: I feel like they could end up getting knocked out

1227
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: in because right now, I mean obviously depends on how

1228
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: things play out, but like they could play the Saints

1229
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: right in in the divisional ground. I don't want. I

1230
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: don't want. I mean, I mean so then so then okay,

1231
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: and I look, I know we're we're kind of going

1232
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: deep into this, but you're running backs marketing room. I mean,

1233
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with Angram with the injuries,

1234
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: but I mean, like right potentially what Camara Camara, I mean, yeah,

1235
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: but again that that is depending on how far you

1236
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: think the Saints can go. I think the Saints to

1237
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship, so alright, so then Camara camar is legit.

1238
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: So but again, the NFL is so freaking weird and unpredictable,

1239
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, like so you never know. But I just

1240
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: feel like there's teams in each conference that have shown

1241
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: that they are they're better than everybody else. I mean,

1242
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: doesn't mean somebody get knocked off. That means gonna get

1243
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: it happens all the time. You know. That's why the

1244
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: NFL is is so interesting and frustrating at the same

1245
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: time if you're a fan and a fantasy owner, because

1246
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, you think something's gonna happen based on what

1247
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: we've seen in the past, and then the next thing

1248
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's, you know, Deshaun Watson scoring nine points

1249
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: against the Bucks. I mean, like this, that's what happens. Yeah,

1250
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: all right, well we'll diget into this later in the week. Yeah,

1251
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: because I think I'm gonna have I'm gonna have a

1252
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: mix of Saints, Ravens and Niners. Yeah, that that seems legit. Um,

1253
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: So there you go. That's that is your entry into

1254
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: the Playoff Challenge. If you don't know it, jump on in.

1255
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of fun. I'm not saying

1256
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: that just because I work here, but I do work here.

1257
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: But also, you know, as a chance. Look there's a

1258
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: chance to win Super Bowl tickets and that seems pretty awesome.

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