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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. He's accepting tailgate game fights.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dana Jnsis, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes Mark Sesler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg with all. What's up? Boys? Hey? Oh? Here we are?

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Speaker 1: You put Dan in a radio station booth and he

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Speaker 1: starts yelling at me like, uh, the host of Mike

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Speaker 1: and the Mad Dog or something? Are you doing? Baby?

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Speaker 1: Took the job by O Mikey Sports Talk seven nine,

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Speaker 1: a m our new location and the home of Lances Early. Yeah. This,

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Speaker 1: I think this is your bomb's actual um office area,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna take good care of it. Friend of

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Speaker 1: the show, Lands Deerline at the r Heart Radio Studios

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Speaker 1: here in downtown Houston, the site, of course, of Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl fifty one. Maron. Here we are now just five

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Speaker 1: days away from the big game. Uh, and guys, it's

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Speaker 1: time to start talking about that game. Last week we

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Speaker 1: had some fun, We had some good times. Mark hit

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Speaker 1: the road on your road trip. Oh, make sure you

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Speaker 1: check out Mark Sessler's banger. H what's the vanity you

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Speaker 1: are all? Mark? Let me get back to you on

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Speaker 1: that it's not what I thought it was. We should

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Speaker 1: hear a little bit about that trip. It's not too

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Speaker 1: often that Mark Cessly is gonna be driving across the

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Speaker 1: country on the way to the super Bow. Maybe never again.

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Speaker 1: How much driving did you do? Well? I was not.

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Speaker 1: That was not my my primary role, as we discussed

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Speaker 1: on the last segment. Uh. Yeah. So now that road

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Speaker 1: we're gonna turn our attention to New England Patriots against

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons and the and the super Bowl. Last night,

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Speaker 1: we all um got in yesterday with the exception of

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Speaker 1: home with the Houston Astros. So we'll talk about our

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Speaker 1: takeaways from um, you know, uniquely NFL event media night.

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Speaker 1: Uh So we'll talk about all the uh the happenings there.

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Speaker 1: We'll also check in what's going on around the NFL

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Speaker 1: outside of this game, because there's some big news going

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Speaker 1: on out there, and we like to check all the boxes, folks, Greg,

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Speaker 1: Gu's what we do. We check all the boxes. That's

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Speaker 1: just our life, you know, checking boxes I'd like to

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Speaker 1: think we do more than that box checker. You know

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Speaker 1: what you need. This is Super Bowl week. This isn't

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Speaker 1: about box checking, but you need somebody to check them.

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Speaker 1: Going for a championship here, you need somebody to check

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Speaker 1: the boxes. But with some flare, all right, I don't

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Speaker 1: know who knows what we're talking about. Also, we will

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Speaker 1: about that game a segment called the Darkest Timeline, where

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Speaker 1: we make a case on both sides, both for the

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Speaker 1: Falcons and the Patriots, why we might get yes another blowout.

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Speaker 1: So these are the things we're gonna talk about today.

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Speaker 1: We are all excited to be here together in Houston.

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Speaker 1: What is this? Our fourth super Bowl? Is a foursome.

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Speaker 1: It is on the road together. This is our fourth

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. You know the first one was in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: The first one was in New York, back in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Were you in Los Angeles? I believe reporting from that

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Speaker 1: office during that Super Bowl, Dan, we've been to six th.

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Speaker 1: This is number six for the Sizzler and I I

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Speaker 1: do want to make a statement. Uh, this is for

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Speaker 1: the Shadowy League figures. I know what you did by

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Speaker 1: putting us in the C listener Hotel. I know they're

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Speaker 1: a message was sent to the heroes, one to keep

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Speaker 1: us on the straight and narrow, to let us know. Oh,

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Speaker 1: not big boys. No, And it was. It was around

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Speaker 1: Will we even descend our own hotel again? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Let's do some news. What's your favorite part of the

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Speaker 1: through a couple more things from media night. Uh, Devonte

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Speaker 1: should pay him like a top tier money, like pay

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Speaker 1: him top tier money like the elite back he has

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Speaker 1: been this season. He kind of pushed it off and

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Speaker 1: asked about it. West Freeman should be paid like a

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Speaker 1: top tier back? Is he that good? I think he's

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Speaker 1: a top six NFL back? Whether he should be paid

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Speaker 1: like one depends on how you want to build your team.

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Speaker 1: But this was good reporting by Mike Silver and awful

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Speaker 1: instincts by Freeman's agent to come out with this right

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Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl to put that kind of attention

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Speaker 1: on it. You can figure that stuff out in the

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Speaker 1: off season. I agree that the reaction, and maybe it's

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Speaker 1: just reading Twitter, seemed a little too much in that attraction.

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Speaker 1: Is it really that biggest story? I mean, was it

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Speaker 1: really that big a you'll like, is this something that's bothering?

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's that. It's not. It's not some

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Speaker 1: crazy thing when coming out and throwing shade on Tevin

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Speaker 1: Coleman's role in the offense. I would have a problem

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Speaker 1: with it if I was in the Falcon's locker room.

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Speaker 1: Save your agent from talking until the offseason. That's what

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Speaker 1: I would tell DeVante Freeman. That's fair. Mark you. You

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Speaker 1: spent some time with Dante Scarnekia, who is the most

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Speaker 1: famous offensive line coach in America. He was great. I

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Speaker 1: mean well, first I went and talked to a couple

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Speaker 1: of his players just to find out kind of what

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Speaker 1: they feel about him. It's an article that I was

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Speaker 1: assigned and we'll be writing um. But then I went

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Speaker 1: and talked to you, well, what does that mean. It's

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Speaker 1: another article that exists, that we'll have my byeline exist.

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Speaker 1: It will exist by tomorrow morning. He not even I mean, wait,

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Speaker 1: someone came up with a with a good word for

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Speaker 1: a sub banger. Now I'm forgetting it. Was it like

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Speaker 1: a thumper that showman ship come back to us? That

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Speaker 1: go ahead? Well, I thought, Dante Scarnek Then so I

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Speaker 1: you know, on the floor is so vast that if

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Speaker 1: you're looking for someone, it's next to impossible, and if

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Speaker 1: you run into someone, you're just lucky. And suddenly this

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Speaker 1: little white haired coach, little tiny guy is very small,

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Speaker 1: was suddenly right right there, was like, that's Dante Scarneckia.

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Speaker 1: So I just got in there and started to listen

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Speaker 1: to him. I thought he was just a perfect guy.

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Speaker 1: He went through and talked about how someone like him

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Speaker 1: relates to guys that are one. I mean, that's hard

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Speaker 1: in our office sometimes. But he clearly believes so much

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Speaker 1: in teaching. They all all his players said, this guy

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Speaker 1: loves us so much. He's there for us. He cares

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Speaker 1: about teaching. That said, he's the most consistent coach I've

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Speaker 1: ever been around. That the way he doesn't know t

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Speaker 1: A S is the same way the same drills he

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Speaker 1: does during super Bowl week and that line. They were

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Speaker 1: much healthier this year. That helped. But they've been incredibly consistent,

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Speaker 1: and I think his returns a big reason why I've

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Speaker 1: never heard him talk. I've never actually seen him. I

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Speaker 1: imagine him to be like what is the name Geppetto

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Speaker 1: from Pinocchio, a kind young old Italian man. He's like

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Speaker 1: fur and uh cooks a mean who's the giminy the

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Speaker 1: cricket in this situation, that'd be Shack Mason. Shack Mason

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Speaker 1: is the correct answer. Uh. Any other takeaways from the

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Speaker 1: from Media Night other than Chris Berman's personal tribute where

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Speaker 1: they brought him onto the stage to the tune of

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Speaker 1: the natural Oh my God, and speaking of like TV

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Speaker 1: TV reporters coming up and seeing what they could do,

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Speaker 1: Like there was a moment, Chris you would have really

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Speaker 1: west he would have appreciated, like when he came up

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Speaker 1: to Dante High Tower and just tried to get his

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Speaker 1: eye contact. It was really there was just such a

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Speaker 1: moment of like make sure you know who I am

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Speaker 1: and that you're lucky that you know Daddy is coming

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Speaker 1: home to talk to you. It's your big time because

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking to you. The level of I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: that's the level of big timing that goes on in

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Speaker 1: these in these functions just amazes me. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: no big time at the No, No, there's no cast system.

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Speaker 1: There's only four or five people just like there's more

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Speaker 1: staff there, and we all have nice time together and

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Speaker 1: it's like a fallout shelter. The first time I've ever

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Speaker 1: been at the Super Bowl and seen more tumble weeds

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Speaker 1: than bar patrons I have see. I have some different

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Speaker 1: vantage point when we would come with for NBC Sports

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Speaker 1: dot Com thinking of like oh, seven oh eight, we're

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Speaker 1: my first super Bowls. Sometimes you'd be you'd be like

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Speaker 1: a forty five minutes away in some holiday and at least, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a nice place they got you were going to

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Speaker 1: hit us with, which was thankful. Now I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: could be a lot worse. Podcast sponsor Houston's Highett Regency.

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Speaker 1: It certainly could be worse. Big news surprise news out

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Speaker 1: of San Francisco, The forty Niners have named John Lynch

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Speaker 1: their new general manager. John Lynch, a man with limited experience,

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Speaker 1: to say the least, has most recently, at least in

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Speaker 1: the management role. UM the deal is for six years,

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Speaker 1: the same contract length the Forts are planning to give

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan when they officially make him their head coach,

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Speaker 1: according to rap Sheet and UM and West. Your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on this high in which to me kind of felt

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Speaker 1: like on some level, Lynch a guy Hall of fame player,

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Speaker 1: well respected. People think he does a great job in

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Speaker 1: the booth. But immediately you got the Matt Millen uh

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Speaker 1: comparisons the same type of situation with Detroit. We know

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Speaker 1: how that turned out. To me, it felt a little

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Speaker 1: bit like a Hail Mary moved from the forty niners

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Speaker 1: in the sense that they need something big to turn

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Speaker 1: the franchise around, So let's take a chance on this

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Speaker 1: guy with huge upside but a big question mark. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he labeled that pretty well. As a general

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Speaker 1: role in all fields, I think that talent is much

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Speaker 1: more important than experience. But in this specific role as

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Speaker 1: general manager, what does he know about the salary cap

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Speaker 1: and contracts and all, in addition to the fact that

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Speaker 1: he's never really scouted or worked his way up through

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Speaker 1: the system. You're right, it seems like a Hail Mary

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Speaker 1: to me. And I'm just not sure if Jed York

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Speaker 1: deserves benefit of the doubt on this. Well, Jed York

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Speaker 1: doesn't he go ahead? No, I mean he clearly does not,

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Speaker 1: based on his recent track record. He owes millions of

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Speaker 1: dollars to people that a year and two years ago

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Speaker 1: he thought were the right group. And what happened in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco was a continual issue between the various power silos,

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Speaker 1: the GM and the coach not getting along. But happen

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Speaker 1: has to happen. Here is Kyle Shanahan, who, by the way,

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Speaker 1: for all the good things he does, has gone from

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Speaker 1: organization organization and in some cases left some unhappy people behind.

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Speaker 1: And so the question for me is how Lynch, who

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Speaker 1: is going to be a really trial by fire general manager,

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Speaker 1: gets along with the first time head coach that's going

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Speaker 1: to decide. I think a lot of how this works, well,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like Kyle Sannahan picked them. So it just

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Speaker 1: speaks It sounds like, what do you mean he picked himself,

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Speaker 1: called Kyle Shanahan and offered his services for the job.

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Speaker 1: And and and he he also spoke that he was

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Speaker 1: so thankful that Kyle basically I think pitched the Lynch

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Speaker 1: idea to to the Yorks that he was so supportive

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Speaker 1: of it. You know, he talked about it and said,

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Speaker 1: anyone that's successful and that's smart, and you know, you

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Speaker 1: give them time and you gotta like, like the first thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not an expert on, you know, guys coming up

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Speaker 1: in the personnel business, but everyone's reaction to the guy

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Speaker 1: they hired Adam Peters as their vice president personnel was

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Speaker 1: basically that this is a shooting star who was rising

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Speaker 1: in the Broncos organization, was the last guy that the

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Speaker 1: Broncos wanted to let leave. But because John lynch Um

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Speaker 1: this guy to come with him. Now this you know Peters,

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Speaker 1: he knows about scouting, so he's going to be the

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Speaker 1: vice president personnel. And you would think that a lot

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Speaker 1: of the people working for Lynch are the ones that

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Speaker 1: are going to be making a lot of those kind

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Speaker 1: of things. Let me ask you this. I know that

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Speaker 1: you mentioned last week that head coach in the NFL

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Speaker 1: is now like a CEO more than being really intense

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Speaker 1: with the position groups and running an offense or a defense.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that the football's our role is becoming

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Speaker 1: more like that where John Elway oversees guys that do

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Speaker 1: the salary cap or overseas personnel people, but he's in

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Speaker 1: more of just like captaining the ship rule. Yes, but

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Speaker 1: I could also point to other teams that have had

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Speaker 1: just you cannot there's no one way to do it.

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Speaker 1: There's no one way to be a gm um. And

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Speaker 1: I think Kyle it tells us that Kyle Shanahan's gonna

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Speaker 1: have a lot of power. We knew that right out

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Speaker 1: of the gate. And it's about the mix. It's so

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Speaker 1: many people having to work together with in an ego

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Speaker 1: less way. You don't hear about power issues inside of

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Speaker 1: New England or other really successful teams like Green Bay

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Speaker 1: because they typically don't exist. They fish those people out. Well,

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Speaker 1: he Shanahan found a guy that he respects, and it's

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Speaker 1: crazy that they got a six year contract. That's reporting.

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Speaker 1: So the Fording Mironers basically are reacting to their reputation

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Speaker 1: of firing someone every year and saying now this is

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Speaker 1: the time, it's for real. We are legitimately gonna let them.

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Speaker 1: It was almost like Jed York say, like Park is

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Speaker 1: trying to sink the family fortune, and it's almost like

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Speaker 1: he's preventing the future. Jed York here he's like, he's like,

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Speaker 1: I know this is gonna be tough for Broster is

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Speaker 1: really bad. The only way I can prevent myself from

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Speaker 1: firing them all like in two years is give them

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Speaker 1: all six year. Obvious problem with that, though John Lynch

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Speaker 1: could stink at his job, and let's be honest, working

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Speaker 1: at Fox nice gig, so media night, he seems we

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Speaker 1: having a good time, people seem to like the job

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Speaker 1: he does. But he the chance to be a GM

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Speaker 1: with no previous front office experience. Did you have to

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Speaker 1: offer him six years to lore him into the gig?

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Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised that you would have to give

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Speaker 1: him that many years. That many years, absolutely, but I

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Speaker 1: will say that what's equally tiresome is to watch coaches

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Speaker 1: and gms in front office people get burnt out and

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Speaker 1: get fired and then get immediately hired to do the

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Speaker 1: same thing somewhere else. So I'm okay with looking outside

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Speaker 1: of the normal group of people. But we'll see how

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Speaker 1: it goes Finally, Uh, the Indianapolis Cults have named Chris

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Speaker 1: Ballard their new general manager. Uh. This comes eight days

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Speaker 1: after the um strange and drawn out dismissal of Ryan Griggson.

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Speaker 1: Ballard was the chiefs director of football operations. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: he now takes over for the Colts. As we've talked

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Speaker 1: about this is it's always it's gonna as long as

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is there, it's gonna be a good job.

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Speaker 1: But greg he needs to make the moves that Ryan

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Speaker 1: Grigson did not know how to make. And maybe that

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Speaker 1: starts on the offensive line. Yeah, I agree. And in defense,

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Speaker 1: who has Gregson brought in other than Vante Davis. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of an exciting player core piece. I liked what

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Speaker 1: I heard out of Ballard. We'll see they drafted well

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Uh, that is what's happening in the news. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're not even gonna bring up the Jets hiring their

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator John Morton. Oh, it's because no one cares

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Speaker 1: about the Jets. Enough shots about ball check. Your team

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Speaker 1: is as no two factor right now. So first of all,

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Speaker 1: not a good luck. Second of all, you just said,

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Speaker 1: why didn't we bring it up? Because nobody cares about

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Speaker 1: the Jets, but you wanted to bring up John Morton

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Speaker 1: is a great man. John Morton is ready to leave

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Speaker 1: the Jets. He's been in the league for thirteen years.

639
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: Um My research tells me that he spent the last

640
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: two seasons with the Saints as a receiver's coach. And

641
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a high flying offense the Saints,

642
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: And now you got John Morton in the building, in

643
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: the Meadowlands offense, what could go wrong? They'll be the

644
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: best Sean Payton assistant since Joe Lombardi. This guy's the

645
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: Tom Savage of offensive coordinators. All all our problems are

646
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: solved in New York. Okay, that's what's happening in the news.

647
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: You know, Greg, don't get touchy. This is your special week.

648
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: That was me having fun. Do you Is this what

649
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: you want to hear? You want to hear some more, Belichick?

650
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: Is that what you want? Greg? You know, we played

651
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: a lot of football teams. They play hard from him,

652
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: just not the whistle. And they practice that way too.

653
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: It shows up in practice. Alright. I like that. Marcus suddenly,

654
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: because he's got this nice microphone in front of him,

655
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: is putting on like an NPR voice, and that's very nice.

656
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: You have gone full villain. And by the way, I

657
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: think that I would vote to kick Greg off the

658
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: show right now. I think we've all had enough. Wow,

659
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: it is you that sets up I think this is

660
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: this is what happens, gigantic mess right now. I love

661
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: the tension and it's a good time. It's a good

662
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: time to now take sides. And that the game is

663
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: or the name of the segment is the Darkest Timeline.

664
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: And I think I'm gonna used that name before, but

665
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm using it again, the Darkest Timeline.

666
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: And then here's the situation. As you may know, the

667
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: average margin of victory in the playoffs was fifteen points. Uh.

668
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: We we saw blowouts all throughout the first three rounds

669
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: of the postseason. And now that everyone's excited. Oh but

670
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: now we have two great teams, uh, and the Falcons

671
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: and the Paths. We're gonna see a nice close Uh

672
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: maybe a shootout with one team prevailing or not. According

673
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: to Mark, we might not have a winner. That was

674
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: your prediction. Anyway, still out there, still out there, and yeah,

675
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: it's picking up steam. Unfortunately, Yeah, this is not what

676
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: I where I wanted it to go, but I can't

677
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: control the Did you read the tea leaves on this

678
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: or was that more like a blind like kind of sessler? Uh,

679
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: sessler you had and now it's it's getting a little

680
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: too real? Or did you remember I remember just that

681
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: when I said it, You know, the general feeling was, well,

682
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, you don't know how to really play this game.

683
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: But for those that don't know, Mark predicted back in

684
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: a November I believe that there would be no winner

685
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: in Super Bowl fifty in a sandwich. And I mean

686
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: if I were to win, I don't really think that

687
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: eating the sandwich is something that's going to solve you know,

688
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: it's not going to help anyone. So no, I would

689
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: not collect. I don't even know if we're gonna be

690
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: around to be collecting or giving out sandwiches. If there's

691
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: no let's not. Let's spend our last few days millions

692
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: of sports reporters, crushed up fleshy masses try and interview athletes.

693
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: That's a good way to go out anyway. So yes,

694
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: the darkest timeline is that in two weeks, either everything's fine,

695
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: another another blowout in the Super Bowl, which we don't want, uh,

696
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: but it could happen. And and what we're gonna do

697
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: today and and our next show, we're gonna formally make

698
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: our Super Bowl picks. Maybe we'll do a couple of

699
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: sandwich props and have some fun on Thursday. But right

700
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: now we're gonna, you know, gonna go on the side

701
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: of some cold reality potentially and make the case for

702
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: both the Falcons and the Patriots how they might be

703
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: the team, uh that is responsible for laying another blowout

704
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: on another playoff team. So what we'll do here is

705
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: we'll put the scientists together, um, Greg and West. But

706
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, but the good thing is they might turn

707
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: each other, turn on each other and you because there's

708
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: a lot of it went down in the lab. The

709
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: egos are very large, and then you know we're upstairs market. Yeah,

710
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: we're like you literally put yourself above where Yeah, where

711
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: are the where the ego driven u Uh. So the

712
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: scientists will take the side and make the case and

713
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: why we're about to see Patriots blowout Mark and I

714
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: will make the case why the Falcons, who have blown

715
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: out many a team this season, will do it again. Uh.

716
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: The first Sunday of February at NRG Stadium, And Uh,

717
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: that would be the darkest time on because we want

718
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: to have a close game, like, well, here we go,

719
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: here's the party. I don't want to see a Patriots win, period,

720
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: So that would be dark. But if the Patriots blow

721
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: out the Falcons and you guys are about to make

722
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: the case how it could happen, Uh, that would be

723
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: the darkest timeline for the old zeuser. So why don't

724
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: we start there, Greg West make the case where the

725
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: Falcons don't have a chance. You know Bill Belichick, when

726
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: you hear him talk about the Falcons, there's a lot

727
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: of respect. He has a lot of respect for their offense.

728
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: He talks about their team speed so much that Patriots

729
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: players are going through the motions just dropping the phrase

730
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: team speed into everything they say, because it's a talking

731
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: point for the Falcons for the Patriots this week. But

732
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: when he had Dimitrov coming through his system, the two

733
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: parted ways on one core philosophy. Dimitrov build his team

734
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: to be fast on that track inside the dome. That's

735
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: their dominant characteristic and you see it in their linebackers,

736
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: which are three of the fastest linebackers in the NFL.

737
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: Bills linebackers are big, and they've always been big. He

738
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: builds powerful teams, and he's gonna look at this Falcons

739
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: team as much as he respects them. Like the Indianapolis Colts.

740
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: He is going to line up send le Garrett Blunt

741
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: down their throats therety times for a hundred and fifty

742
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns because he knows that this allegedly

743
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: improved Falcons defense for the past six weeks is getting

744
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: up on inferior opponents at the front of the game,

745
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: scoring on an opening touchdown, allowing their pass rush to

746
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: come flying off the edges with no concern whatsoever for

747
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: play action or anything else. Because you've got a big lead.

748
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: He is gonna run the ball down the Falcons throats

749
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: because he doesn't think their defense has a backbone. Greg,

750
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: you guys are going to present your entire create were

751
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: going back and forth a little. I haven't heard enough

752
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: to be impressed yet, So go ahead, Greg, Well, if

753
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: you're gonna if you're gonna take if you're gonna take

754
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: one coach towards that, if you're gonna take one coach

755
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: for one game to create one game plan, you got

756
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: an extra week to do it, you know, I'm gonna

757
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: take Bill Belichick. He's he's gone against the greatest offenses

758
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL before, hasn't one of

759
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: my but he's won a lot of them against some

760
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 1: of those Colts teams against the Bills back in the eighties,

761
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: as the Giants defense according against the Rams, and one

762
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: of the big difference to me is in the secondary.

763
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: And I agree West that the Falcons defense. When I

764
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: watched him, where's the improvement? I don't really see the improvement.

765
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: The Patriots and Falcons are first and second in the

766
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: NFL offensively in yards after the catch. The Patriots are

767
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: first defensively in preventing yards after the catch. So that's

768
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: a strength for them. It's strength on strength Logan Ryan,

769
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler. You know Ryan. Ryan said today that they

770
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: told him that's why they drafted him. If you can't tackle,

771
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: you don't play for the Patriots. Deron Harmon said he

772
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: couldn't get on the field until he could tackle. That's

773
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: what they do well, that's how the the Falcons get

774
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: a lot of their big place. The Falcons, on the

775
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: other hand, are dead last in the NFL in yards

776
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: after catch allowed. And that's not just the receivers. If

777
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: I was them that I'd be worried about. I'd be

778
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: worried about our boy Dion Lewis, I'd be worried about

779
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: James White, I'd be worried about all of them because

780
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: they make you make tough decisions. And you look at

781
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: this secondary and that's where you can see the big plays,

782
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: whereas with the Patriots, big plays are death. Bill Belichick,

783
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: you know he was talking yesterday too. There's nothing worse

784
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: than a big play. We want to get them into

785
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: third downs, we want to get them into the red

786
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: zone situations. Of course, every team wants to do that,

787
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: but the Patriots have proven year after year after year

788
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: that they rank higher in points allowed than yards allowed.

789
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: And that's why I could see a lot of sevens

790
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: for the Patriots and some threes for the Falcons and

791
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: in these games. The case to me is these games

792
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: are weird. The conference championship and the Super Bowl games

793
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: are have too many blowouts because I I don't know

794
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: what it is. It's the pressure of the game, It's

795
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: the moment when you have a certain velocity going in

796
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: one direction. It's somehow they lose track of who they

797
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: really are as a team, and to me, I don't

798
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: expect the Patriots. I just do not expect the Patriots

799
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: for that to happen. If they fell down by twelve,

800
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: I would think they can come back in this game.

801
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: If the Falcons falled down by twelve, haven't been in

802
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: this situation much, I could see it going another way

803
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: that and that's where Mark I could not disagree more

804
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: this about and West. You've been pounded the table yourself.

805
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: When are we gonna start giving the Falcons the credit

806
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: they deserve nationally? Why are we always making excuses why

807
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: other teams failed to handle the Falcons? It's the Falcons

808
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: that are whooping on teams. And I don't think there's

809
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: any way that the Patriots. And I know their defense

810
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: statistically looks good and they did a nice job against

811
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers. The Steelers killed themselves, killed themselves and played

812
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: maybe one of the worst games of the season. Bad

813
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: Steelers came back at a terrible time the a f

814
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: C title game. So on some level and this is

815
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: gonna I get it. I'm a Patriots hater, but I

816
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: do honestly still believe on some level, the Patriots haven't

817
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: truly been tested against the truly great offense, and Mark,

818
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: this is an all time offense. Bill Belichick said it himself,

819
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: and it's Naxi's buttering up his opponent. Yeah. They have

820
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: scored thirty plus points in ten of their last twelve games.

821
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: They are not a team that was at their peak

822
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: power back in a week six or week seven. They

823
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: are at their peak power right now. Talked with a

824
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: couple of defensive backs on the Patriots today, Patrick he said,

825
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: I didn't drop a name. Greg is interrupting my segment

826
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Speaker 1: of the podcast. After you my portion of our segment

827
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: after the NPR thing, think you continue ever be hired

828
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: by NPR. Let's start right there the Atlanta let him

829
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: get to you, Mark, keep power. I am going to

830
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: not let him get to me. I. I love what

831
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: Atlanta does on offense because if other teams have that

832
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: one or two players that Bill Belichick and say, we're

833
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: going to erase them and you wipe out that offense.

834
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: If you if you're successful with that, you you do

835
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: that with Atlanta they have they have so many different

836
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: ways they can attack you. Matt Ryan has been overlooked

837
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: most of all season. He's an m v P quarterback.

838
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: This isn't last year's Cam Newton and the Panthers going

839
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: in and facing an offense or the defense like the

840
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. This is a different situation. I understand Belichick.

841
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: Belichick with a week to prepare is highly dangerous. But

842
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: this Falcons team, to me, I feel like there is

843
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: not a weakness on their offense. And you can say

844
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: sevens and threes, but how are you going to hold

845
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: the Falcon's offense two threes over? Note? And now this

846
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: is how it gets to a blowout. This is how

847
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: it gets there. And I know it's hard to imagine

848
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots in Beljick being blown out, but it happened

849
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. It could happen. It could happen. The

850
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: Falcons score first on everybody. The Falcons can score second

851
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: on anybody too. If the Falcons jump out fast here

852
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: and we know they can and they do it literally

853
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: every week, that whole game plan. If the Patriots, like

854
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: we wanna, we wanna pounded right right down their throats

855
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: and and go that path and lean on the running game,

856
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: if they can get out to that early lead and

857
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: take the Patriots out of their initial game plan, yes,

858
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: Tom Brady can get in the shootout with anybody. But

859
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: I like the Falcons just being so overwhelming with Yeah,

860
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: they get two weeks to plan for the Patriots too,

861
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: that they lay burger and a huge spot and it

862
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: could happen. They're not giving up on that game plan.

863
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: There are five dominant units and one really weak one

864
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: in this game. Two great offenses, too great special teams,

865
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: one top ranked defense, and one defense that just isn't good.

866
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be the weakness. That's not fair because

867
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: we've been saying all year that we're giving all these

868
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: defenses too much credit. The Patriots you can make the

869
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: same case for them. So maybe they're only the sixth

870
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: best defense. That's a lot than the Falcons, the worst

871
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: defense in the NFL and yards after contact also the

872
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: third worst red zone defense this century. This is a

873
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: defense that can be exploited by a smart coaching staff

874
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: in a good quarterback. I don't think that the Patriots

875
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: can have a bad, really bad day on defense. Oh.

876
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: I think the Falcons can make any defense have a

877
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: really bad day. But I'm saying the Patriots can do

878
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: that much more easily. Just like the fact, just like

879
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: I said, every everything came so much easier to Matt

880
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: Ryan and the Falcons, and it did to Aaron Rodgers

881
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: because they had to work so much harder. Things come

882
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: easier to the Patriots defense than the Falcons defense because

883
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: the Falcons defense just isn't very good. They there there's

884
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: they don't have strength to match up with the Patriots weaknesses.

885
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: I really think the Patriots are vulnerable, like in the

886
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: interior offensive line. I I know they've been a good

887
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: offensive line this year, they haven't been as good in

888
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think that that can be a problem.

889
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: Do I think that Rashid Hageman is gonna get after them?

890
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: He's been playing well lately. Brian Cox was was talking

891
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: him up at at the at the media day, Cox

892
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: incidentally said he said his Saturday will be will be

893
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: determined how successful it is by how many cigars he smokes.

894
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: I love Brian Cox. He he was trying to not

895
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: be too respectful for Belichick, who's meant a lot to

896
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: him and in his career. I don't think those guys

897
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: are particularly big strengths for them, Like Vic Beasley hasn't

898
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: done anything in about four or five weeks. Dwight Freeny

899
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: is playing pretty well. But if Dwight Freeney is your

900
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: best pass rusher going into a super Bowl over the

901
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: last week or two, that's a problem. What do you

902
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: have to hold the Falcons too for a chance to

903
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: win this? I mean, are you are they scored under

904
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: twenty points one a one time all season? Are we

905
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: expecting them to go and drop seventeen points in this game? Yeah?

906
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna look at what the what the

907
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: Eagles did when they held him under twenty And frankly,

908
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: we're the better team in that game with with a

909
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: good defense, and I think you're gonna see the Falcons

910
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: haven't really played a good defense lately. The one way

911
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: to stop Brady is pressure, and there's no way to

912
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: I can obviously, you know we're we're talking about this.

913
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: It would still surprise me if there was a blowout

914
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: in either direction. It's just easier to see it from

915
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: from the Patriots thought that a lot during the playoffs.

916
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: That's all that's that's that's true. But for a Patriots

917
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: fan to know that Tom Brady's facing a team without

918
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: a great pass rush week after week in these playoffs,

919
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: that's all you can ever ask for it because you

920
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: just kind of don't believe that he's gonna be totally

921
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: stopped when unless you have a great passers. I mean,

922
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: he came back two touchdowns on the Seahawks on the

923
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: on a great two thousand, fourteen Seahawks defense. So that's

924
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: what that's why I would think if they're down in

925
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: this game, he can come back. Um. All right, so

926
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: let's hope there's no blowout. But that's how there could

927
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: be a blowout on either side of this game. And

928
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: like and like I said on Thursday, we will approach

929
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: the game from another angle and UH and then also

930
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: pick the games. Um, And we're getting near the end

931
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: of the show. Now, what's going on for the rest

932
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: of the week for everybody? I will let you know

933
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: my party schedule. I'll be at the UH at the

934
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: Madden Bashed West. You're welcome as a plus one to

935
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: all these parties. By the way, don't even say that

936
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: I am not going to any parties. And just no,

937
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: I'm not even invited, first of all, and nobody there

938
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: wants to talk to me. I'd rather meet with a stranger,

939
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: you know in downtown. Are you worried that the paramore

940
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: is gonna listen to this episode here it and and say,

941
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Greg just made that five times worse if

942
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 1: that happens. The paramount. The paramore and I have gone

943
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: about fifteen rounds on this issue. She comes down on

944
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: the other side of it. I just have no business

945
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: at these parties, nor do I want to be in

946
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 1: a party. West. We can hang out in that lobby

947
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: with four or five other humans, three of them waitresses,

948
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: and you and me much more advertising. I'm sure those

949
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: three waitresses are more interesting than any of the celebrities

950
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: at this party. Okay, So West West surprisingly has made

951
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: a strong opinion on the topic. I will be at

952
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: the Madden party. I'm gonna go. Uh. And then Keith

953
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 1: comes into town. Keith Hands is coming in for the game.

954
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: Really excited about that, brother in law, Keith. Usually, usually

955
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: my dad is rooted on the side of the a

956
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: f C team. That's kind of what we do. Same

957
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: thing with baseball with the World Series. That's a very

958
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: old old school approach. I like that, but there are exceptions,

959
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: and uh, a New England team would be one of them.

960
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: So I think the handsa house in general is coming

961
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: down on the side of pro Falcons. Yeah. Um so

962
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: I'm doing that, Greg, what do you guys? Se wht

963
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: you want? You want my dad and my brother who

964
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: are coming into this game to be sad, that's what

965
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: you're saying. I wanted to have a nice time. You know,

966
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: who knows how many how many more super Bowls saddle

967
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: season he's gonna sign with? My dad has never seen

968
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: you know, you know this is his second super Bowl.

969
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: First one did not include the Patriots. Who knows he

970
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: might never get a chance to see the Patriots win

971
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I hope you time enjoying the experience

972
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: and not the game. Did you just say that Dana

973
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: is really experienced four Super Bowl titles, but never in person,

974
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: so and down on the morning he's never seated in person?

975
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: My goodness, I'm just saying, you know, he's getting up

976
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: there in years. Just give the man something. Give him

977
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: one super the fifth super Bowl title, this one in person. Also,

978
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: if they were to lose six years old, I've never

979
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: seen my team in the Super Bowl period. Come on, Greg,

980
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: that's not fair. You make it too easy. Sometimes the

981
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: Throne of East you're a villain, and you beatpicking of

982
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: putting the mic. The mic changes people. You're kind of

983
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: in that like, Hey, I'm the guy with the leather

984
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: jacket in the corner, slinging out leather, drawing a big

985
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: circle in my noteboe, now that's my note. Yeah, that

986
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 1: was my daughter who drew that. Mark your final thoughts

987
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: on that that vicious, savage NPR dig from Greg don't

988
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And I again, I'll go back to this

989
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: to hire me. They would not hire Greg and so

990
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 1: they would be happy to work for NPR. I mean,

991
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: Terry Gross is like the goat. You should wish to

992
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: be Terry Gross. Another another is coming out of the

993
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: gate hot in the sup of weeks. He's feeling insecure

994
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: about something, a little bit nervous. You get to the

995
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: bottom of it at some point. So greg Is attacked

996
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: Mark as a professional trying to submarine Wes's relationship and

997
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 1: then took a needless dig at my jets are already

998
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: on the ground and said, I didn't notice is such

999
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: a you know, I didn't know all these sensitive snowflakes

1000
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: in here or whatever because sensitive. Yeah, it was just

1001
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: Trump supporter. You're the man in the black hat on

1002
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: once you get in the studio here at iHeart Studio,

1003
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. I really think it's you know, I'm

1004
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: usually well fed, and I haven't eaten all day. I

1005
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: really have any in like two days and and and

1006
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: it's bad for you. It makes you very well to

1007
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: the listeners. Um, we who do we have in the

1008
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: car downstairs? Mitch, Mitch just downstairs. We've got our own Mitch.

1009
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: We've got to get to Mitch. You got some bangers coming.

1010
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: Everyone should read the Bangers coming from Cessler and West

1011
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: and make sure Mark's long form. How did it turn out? Mark?

1012
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: It turned out all right, you're happy with it. I'm

1013
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: going to read it tonight. The road to Houston. Road

1014
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: to Houston is the well I believe it's look up,

1015
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: do nor forward hashtag super Bowl City. Go to my

1016
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: Twitter Feedward pinned on my Twitter Just go there forward.

1017
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't know because there's there were two there were

1018
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: two addresses for its. I don't want to go around.

1019
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: Look at my Twitter feed more followers and Terry Gross.

1020
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't imagine. Did you figure out that the name

1021
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: that you brought up and then didn't have the answer

1022
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: or some type of note that you had. Don't turn

1023
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: this around on me. No, I was saying, I thought

1024
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: maybe you would look at it. We're just tying up

1025
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: blues ends now, all right, that's it. Next time you

1026
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: hear from us, we'll be Thursday night, UM or Thursday afternoon.

1027
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: That will be our official let's call the official Super

1028
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty one preview show. UM again. Here from uh

1029
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio Studios in Houston. Thank you to Sports

1030
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: Talk seven ninety for helping us out with this, uh

1031
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: and we will be back. Thank you for listening, uh

1032
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: and and stay tuned in on all of our social

1033
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 1: media feeds. But I'll try to do another I did

1034
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: a live periscope west and I tried it earlier. Maybe

1035
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: we'll do another one on Thursday. So thank you everybody

1036
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: for listening. It is time to go. Uh So, this

1037
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: is Dan Hansons signing up for Quiet Storm. You could

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Speaker 1: be Terry grossmart I believe in No Comment, the Mailman,

1039
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: the Man in the black Hat, and New Money all

1040
00:54:43,560 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: the way back in Culver City till Thursday