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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori

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Speaker 1: with you with our guest doctor Christian torn von Lair,

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Speaker 1: a psychic clairvoyant medium on a mission to solve the

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Speaker 1: problems and all our lives. He's a further known for

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Speaker 1: his insight into the ancient wisdom of the ancient world.

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Speaker 1: More uniquely, he is notable for his ability to convey

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Speaker 1: the reality of nature people. Christian has been a producer

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Speaker 1: of several television programs for the New Age and wellness communities,

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Speaker 1: including John Grace, Transformation and his own series Messenger. He

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Speaker 1: has been on coast to coast quite often. A couple

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Speaker 1: of his books include If You Could Only See, Seeing

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Speaker 1: and Sensing Gnomes, The Magic of Gnomes and lepre cons

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Speaker 1: Magical Powers and Mystical Beings and Christian, Welcome back, Looking

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Speaker 1: forward to this tonight and Merry Christmas to you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you George. Happy Holidays to you. Also, it's very

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Speaker 1: good to be back. How are you. You're up you

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Speaker 1: sound chipper wow. I went on a later time zone lately,

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Speaker 1: so I'm ready for you, super super tell me about

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Speaker 1: star seeds these what are they? Well, star seeds are

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Speaker 1: they fit into the category of extraterrestrials and aliens, something

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Speaker 1: typicult to your show. But they are different in this

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Speaker 1: sense that instead of physically visiting the Earth, they tend

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Speaker 1: to incarnate here and go through the life process that

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Speaker 1: normally humans go through so they can better convey their message.

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Speaker 1: Something has to occur for us to develop, and they're

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Speaker 1: going to help us with that message, help us succeed.

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Speaker 1: It's similar in a way to perhaps what extraterrestrials are doing,

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Speaker 1: but they're going about it a different way. It's also

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Speaker 1: possible that star seeds were themselves physical visiting extra terrestrials

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Speaker 1: at one time, like when we're building temples things of

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Speaker 1: that nature in the past, but by being incarnating into

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Speaker 1: human life form, what their message is, what they are,

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Speaker 1: what it's all about, tends to become a part of us,

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Speaker 1: and they're hoping to convert us, so to speak, to

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Speaker 1: a way of thinking that fits into the galactic consciousness,

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Speaker 1: not just so earth focused. Are they physical or something else? Well,

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Speaker 1: since they've incarnated here, and we're presuming that humans accept

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Speaker 1: that all humans incarnate, all life incarnates, they're just like us.

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Speaker 1: It's just that the history of them, what they draw from,

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Speaker 1: is also from their world, which should be older and

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Speaker 1: far more advanced than us. So physically they may seem

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Speaker 1: and act like us, but yet they themselves have characteristics

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Speaker 1: they know makes them different. For example, they don't feel

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Speaker 1: like they belonger. They feel like they've comes from somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: They tend to be loaners because they feel different. They

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Speaker 1: think in third party, which means they can be in

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Speaker 1: their conversation and hear it. At the same time, They've

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Speaker 1: interesting talents and skills, so they themselves consider themselves different

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Speaker 1: and somewhat alien. Will even say that. But yet to

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Speaker 1: most people walking the street, you might think you saw

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Speaker 1: a normal human. But even physically, they will often have

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Speaker 1: traits that sort of give a clue as to where

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Speaker 1: they might be coming from. Because star seeds actually come

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Speaker 1: from many different constellations out there, not all in the

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Speaker 1: exact same agenda, but similar, and so there are different

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Speaker 1: types of star seeds, so there are different sets of characteristics.

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Speaker 1: Humans who that field that they're alien or star seeds

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Speaker 1: will usually identify with one or more of those different

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Speaker 1: types of stars seeds. How did you come upon the

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Speaker 1: star seeds Christian, Well remember two twelve, Remember that that

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Speaker 1: event two thousand and twelve. Yes, I used to do

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Speaker 1: a lot of lectures and speaking on that, and of course,

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Speaker 1: in discovering all some of the old information behind the

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Speaker 1: two and twelve saga, it was very evident that there

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Speaker 1: is an alien connection going on there. And of course

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Speaker 1: it became very evident what was really going on, that

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Speaker 1: star seeds are necessary part of the evolution of mankind.

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Speaker 1: And so over the years I started putting our story together,

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Speaker 1: started speaking and lecturing on that you believe that we

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Speaker 1: Everything's in motion, and movement collisions can go on. Environmental

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Speaker 1: It looks like something's guiding us, something's influencing us, and

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Speaker 1: we've got to start seeing or feeling or being that

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Speaker 1: To help us adapt to all these kinds of things

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Speaker 1: We need this kind of influence that comes from star seeds.

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Speaker 1: Have the star seeds basically opened up the books of

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Speaker 1: are many kinds of star seeds. Let's make it like

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Speaker 1: sort of competing races from other star systems that are

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Speaker 1: Right now, the star seeds are acting on our behalf.

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Speaker 1: They might have their own agenda, I guess exactly. It

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