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Speaker 1: I'm here, Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of The Tailgate,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Ticketmaster. It's me, your host, cy Onminson,

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Speaker 1: sitting across from me, your co host, the Great Chad Daniels.

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Speaker 1: Your favorite team is still over in Europe. They're recovering

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Speaker 1: from a loss in Ireland. They're headed England way, and

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Speaker 1: now we got to get one before we come home. Chad,

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Speaker 1: this is a I don't want to be dramatic. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to start the show. I'm dramatic too often,

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Speaker 1: so I don't want to start the show dramatic. But

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Speaker 1: like I always assume, to fly home after a loss

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Speaker 1: sucks and the only experience I have. We both grew

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Speaker 1: up rural, didn't go to a lot of sporting events

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Speaker 1: as little kids. I went to my first Viking game,

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Speaker 1: I believe I was a senior in high school, and

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Speaker 1: we want it, But I always had that thing like

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Speaker 1: if we'd have lost, that three and a half hour

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Speaker 1: these England games, Like, dude, if you take an L

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Speaker 2: I know you don't believe in jet lag with pfe athletes,

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Speaker 2: but I think this is going to be great. That

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Speaker 2: they're sitting over do you do it? That's because you

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Speaker 2: told me last week. So I think that they're going

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Speaker 2: to be great sitting over there practicing in their normal time,

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Speaker 2: because I think it would be horrible to have to

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Speaker 2: and so there are those times. But I will tell

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Speaker 1: What an origin story for you and how you think

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Speaker 1: I think it's more not even worrying about the players.

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Speaker 1: So our normal producer, Jay Nelson is not with us today.

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Speaker 1: We have sub producers, and honestly, they're gunning for the job.

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Speaker 1: I think they're doing great. They're gunning for the job,

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Speaker 2: Well, because I did hear when we brought Jay up,

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Speaker 1: then all the way back. That's a tough when you

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Speaker 2: You need to get on the right side of the

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Speaker 1: it's They drove to the Denver eight yard line with

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Speaker 1: Of all the fumbles, you're the fumble that sucks. I

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean that's a big I mean, but you

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Speaker 2: know what I was. Also, you'd say the fumble, and

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Speaker 2: I think they just got it early. That's that's what's

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Speaker 1: Can you the other thing that I do? And you're

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Speaker 1: guy if you have. The Dallas Stars won a title.

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Speaker 1: Stars was the best team name in the entire NHL.

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Speaker 1: Dallas Stars. I think that's horrific, I but also maybe

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Speaker 1: But the Minneapolis Lakers the Lakers, we could be the

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Speaker 2: That's pretty It's untouchable for names.

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Speaker 1: It's untouchable for names, and yet it feels so touchable

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Speaker 1: You know, Steelers, Cowboys, the more iconic franchise, and the

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Speaker 2: Well you were. I think you're absolutely correct. That metaphor sucked. Now.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's because you have so many unlikable

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Speaker 2: It is It is fun to do stuff like that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely can't agree more. Can I tell you one

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna throw it out. It was a river.

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Speaker 1: Works like Eerie didn't like Erie catch on fire.

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Speaker 1: I think they had the Ravens and the Packers, so

434
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Speaker 1: that's a very legit schedule. But the Lions, their offense

435
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Speaker 1: going into the game was ranked second in scoring first

436
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Speaker 1: in EPA per play, and so I was very curious

437
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: to see what happened when those forces met one another,

438
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Speaker 1: and it was a crushing by the Lions. So my

439
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Speaker 1: question to you, as a guy who watches a lot

440
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Speaker 1: of football, do we think that is more about how

441
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Speaker 1: excellent the Lions are or do we think maybe the

442
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: defense was in his guy, I'm worried that it's the

443
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Speaker 1: and this is my bad fan psychology, that it's the

444
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Speaker 1: worst of both. The Lions are so good, which affects

445
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Speaker 1: us when we have to play them and their defense

446
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: is still excellent. That's that's the terrible attitude I'm bringing, right.

447
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Speaker 2: I think the Browns defense is excellent. Yeah, I really do.

448
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Speaker 2: What Packer game? I don't did they.

449
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Speaker 1: Blocked excellent, very fun Packers at a field goal to win,

450
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Speaker 1: they block it, they turn it the other way, they

451
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Speaker 1: go down, they kick a field goal at the gun,

452
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Speaker 1: they win the game.

453
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Speaker 2: I know, I just wanted to hear it again. I

454
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: think that their defense is the real deal. So I

455
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Speaker 2: think that if we get the right scheme, I think

456
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Speaker 2: that they are beatable. They've been they right, They're proven

457
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Speaker 2: to be beatable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, And I wonder that brings me

459
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Speaker 1: back to my point is when you're playing a defense

460
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Speaker 1: that good and you have an O line that is

461
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Speaker 1: dealing with what it's dealing with. I think this is

462
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Speaker 1: one of those games, Like even though the Browns might

463
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Speaker 1: not have a great record, I think it's a pretty

464
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Speaker 1: unique challenge. Yeah, you know, I saw in some publication

465
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Speaker 1: the Vikings were ranked across the board the best coaching

466
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Speaker 1: staff when you took all the coordinators and the head

467
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Speaker 1: coach into consideration in the league. And I think that

468
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily like universal, but a lot of people supported that.

469
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Speaker 1: And then I think on ESPN last week they were

470
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Speaker 1: they were having the conversation if you were having a

471
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Speaker 1: coach's draft right now, like who would you take first?

472
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Speaker 1: In Greenee's all in on koc So I think this

473
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Speaker 1: is going to be one of those moments. It would

474
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Speaker 1: be such a feather in the cap of the team

475
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Speaker 1: and the coachings if you can get this win dealing

476
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Speaker 1: with the things you're dealing with from an injury standpoint

477
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Speaker 1: against the thing that they bring in, which is a

478
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Speaker 1: defense that could completely no matter what you're capable of

479
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: on both sides, they can control the game. If their

480
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Speaker 1: line is playing really well, and our line is struggling

481
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Speaker 1: due to injuries. So if you can to your point,

482
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Speaker 1: if you somehow scheme up a way to be really

483
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Speaker 1: successful this game, and then you can go home, and

484
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Speaker 1: you get into bye week, and you go in three

485
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Speaker 1: and two. Now I want now we get to play.

486
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Speaker 1: The fun game is now we play. We got a

487
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Speaker 1: few matchups in a row where nobody thinks we're gonna win.

488
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Speaker 1: You go into that Egos game, that Ravens game, that

489
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Speaker 1: Lions game. I think a lot of people are gonna

490
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Speaker 1: Now you go steal a couple of those. You're right

491
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Speaker 1: back on a really fun path. So I unique challenge.

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Speaker 1: But if the coaching staff can pull it off, this

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Speaker 1: one would be who And.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw this out there. I'm gonna throw this

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Speaker 2: out there. I have airline tickets purchased from Minneapolis to London,

496
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Speaker 2: Chicago to London, Madison, Wisconsin to London. I am willing

497
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Speaker 2: to go in for a play if you need me,

498
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Speaker 2: no contract needed. I'm just willing to give an offensive

499
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Speaker 2: lineman a breather. We're gonna need a rollout package at

500
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Speaker 2: that point because I'm just gonna I'm just gonna turn

501
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Speaker 2: my body and get pummeled. And that's fine, but it's

502
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Speaker 2: gonna it's going to delay them seconds.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you? Because I think what you're I

504
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: love it, and I've thought about this for you for

505
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: a while now ever since you joined the show. Is

506
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: this show the path for you to become an asset

507
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: for the team, like you know in baseball? Like you remember

508
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: in Major League, one of our favorite movies where they

509
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: send dorn In to get hit by the pitch.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's me, that's you. That's exactly me. I am

511
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: the Roger dorn for these Minnesota Vikings. Use me however

512
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: you need to use me.

513
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: And here's where I think I need to use you.

514
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: I need here's the thing. What's the Toby Key song?

515
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: Yan't as good as he once was, but you're as

516
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: good once as he ever was. Come on, brother, I

517
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: say we get you on a screen, right, because here's

518
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: the thing. Even at your advanced age, you got a

519
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: quick A to B. Once you get to B, you

520
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: can't go to C.

521
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: A lot of breathing, A lot of breathing at B.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was a really hard route to

523
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: be for you. Yeah, but you got there and everybody went, oh,

524
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: he gets to be quick. Let's see what happens next.

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Speaker 1: I'm thank you.

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Speaker 2: I stay at B.

527
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: So if we run a sc and I'm not a coach,

528
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't know how to draw stuff up, but I'm saying,

529
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: if we run one of those screens where that center

530
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: has to pull out, so Chad's playing center, center has

531
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: to pull out, if you can get from A to

532
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: B and you could just sacrifice your body into a

533
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: mild Garrett or one of these linebackers one play, what

534
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: happens to you. I don't know the consequences to your legs,

535
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: your elbows, your nose. I don't know, but I think

536
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: that's a good story to tell. I think we'd all

537
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: be very proud of you, and you can get a

538
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: nice breather. You set up one good play. Minnesota is

539
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: Vince Papali. I love it.

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00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: Here is my pitch to the coaches. I went to

541
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: a community college in Fergus Falls, and the nose tackle

542
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: for the team was all conference and one time, during

543
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: a pickup football game after the season, I went up

544
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: against him. I was center, I was snapping the ball,

545
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: no big deal of shotgun formation, and he chopped my

546
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: arm at the elbow, and I thought my spine had snapped.

547
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: So I've been in this situation before. I'm happy to

548
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: do it again for these vikings. You have my number,

549
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: use it.

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Speaker 1: Let's see. Because you remember, when you're young, neither of

551
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: us actually played football. You play backyard football with your friends,

552
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: and I remember thinking like, man, I'm like cause I

553
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: think I was a little bigger than some of the

554
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: people we played besides a little hard to tackle, and

555
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: you get a little so I kind of had this

556
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Speaker 1: idea like, oh, I can really, I can run, I

557
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: can catch, I'm hard to take down. I'm like one

558
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: of the better guys out here. And then we played

559
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Speaker 1: with this guy Ray, who played high school and junior

560
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: college football. Same thing. And I make a catch and

561
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Speaker 1: I'm coming up the sideline, I might do what I

562
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Speaker 1: normally do, which is I'm not going on a bout.

563
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna try to run through him, and I

564
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: hit him, and I think I have health problems to

565
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Speaker 1: day for that collection.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different thing. It's a different violence.

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Speaker 1: I think he didn't think about it. The moment I

568
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: went and fell to the ground, he just it was

569
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Speaker 1: gone from his brain forever. But I think it certainly

570
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Speaker 1: affects me to this day.

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Speaker 2: Oh there's no quote. You get tackled like that and

572
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: you go, you know what, put my feet in stirrups.

573
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Speaker 2: The wind has been knocked out of me. And I

574
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Speaker 2: need about two and a half minutes.

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Speaker 1: Let's do game prediction. So let's do let's do score prediction. Okay,

576
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Speaker 1: let's do a player prediction, and let's do personal prediction.

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Speaker 2: Okay, score prediction. I need you to know lately we've

578
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Speaker 2: been I know, I know, I need you to know

579
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Speaker 2: that I really do think this Cleveland defense is the

580
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Speaker 2: real deal. So I'm going Vikings ninety five, Brown seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I now I have a little different

582
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: opinion than you do. I am very worried about the

583
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: offensive line. Okay, and so I think with Miles Garrett

584
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: is so good Schwartz. I believe it's still their coordinaty

585
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: just he's such a good pressure guy, and with you

586
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: know a lot of backups that offensive line. So I

587
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: think it's probably one hundred and twenty eight to eleven.

588
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm thinking somewhere in that range they get into eight

589
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Speaker 1: into three.

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Speaker 2: I forgot about Miles Garrett. Good call.

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Speaker 1: What you got for a player.

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Speaker 2: This This is gonna be crazy, but I'm gonna go

593
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Speaker 2: with Max Brosemer. I'm gonna tell you why he's in

594
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Speaker 2: because we have such a big lead.

595
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Speaker 1: So you're you, you think we're gonna see some Max Brosemer.

596
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna go. I think he's gonna go

597
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: six for eight over seventy yards.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I am going to go. I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 1: I think last week was the start to what we're

600
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: gonna see this week because Jefferson got a lot of

601
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: targets played really well. I think we're gonna see the

602
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: Addison game. I think we're gonna see I don't know

603
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: if I'm going two touchdowns from Addison. From a personal

604
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: prediction standpoint, I think when we come back together to

605
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: do this show again because it's bye week and then

606
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: we have the Eagles, which the great Blake Wexler, who's

607
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: been on the show a ton of times, he'll be

608
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: filling in for you because we like to talk to

609
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: him about Eagles, So you're gonna get a couple of

610
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Speaker 1: weeks off. I believe that, regardless of how this game

611
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: turns out, when we come back together for the next

612
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Speaker 1: time for that show. I think people are going to

613
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: feel the energy and positivity and vibe between us that

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Speaker 1: they felt week one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. You know I love this Addison call.

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Speaker 2: And then I think you're right. Two touchdowns. That sounds

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Speaker 2: he's going to put the jets on. There's no question.

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Speaker 1: Two touchdowns. That's going to do it for us, everybody

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Speaker 1: on the show. Thanks to Chad for joining. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: you guys for listening to our podcast. Well you're here,

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Speaker 1: give us a review. It would help a lot. Do

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Speaker 1: the stars write the thing down. We would appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: the official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings, for helping

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Speaker 1: make this show happen. Enjoy the game, everybody,