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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight. From Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Spiritual and energy healer over Niv was born and raised

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Speaker 2: in Israel, served as an army commander in the Israeli

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Speaker 2: Army well for studied philosophy and math at the Hebrew

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Speaker 2: University before moving to the US. He explores the subtle

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Speaker 2: ways the various realms of existence work His book is

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Speaker 2: called From Shadows to Light. Oh for welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, George, great to be here, looking forward to this.

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Speaker 2: Our dear friend Uri Geller is still out there in Israel.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever met him.

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Speaker 4: I've met him as an audience as part of an

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Speaker 4: audience that was many years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good guy, good guy.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah great. Hey.

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Speaker 2: What was it like being in the Israeli Army. They're

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Speaker 2: great soldiers.

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Speaker 3: It was fun.

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Speaker 4: I've served as a first as a you know, as

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Speaker 4: a soldier, then as an officer company commander and I.

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Speaker 3: And I you know, I can't say that I.

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Speaker 4: Enjoyed it, but it was probably one of the most

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Speaker 4: significant life experiences.

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Speaker 3: Definitely teaches you how to rely on others.

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Speaker 4: And how to trust others because you have no other choice.

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Speaker 2: Who was the Israeli leader at the time, was it began?

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Speaker 3: No, it was Golda.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was one and she was one of a

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Speaker 2: kind too, wasn't she.

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Speaker 3: Oh? She she is a she is a she is

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Speaker 3: a strong, strong leader. That's great.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about you. You you you had a diagnosis

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Speaker 2: of multiple sclerosis. What happened?

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Speaker 4: So I've been I've been in Israel. Then I moved

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Speaker 4: to the US, and that was probably about forty years ago.

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Speaker 4: And uh, I worked in the corporate world. I worked

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Speaker 4: for Wells Fargo, to be honest, a big bank, and

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Speaker 4: I was in a leadership position. And I worked there

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Speaker 4: many years, a lot of stress, a lot of deadlines,

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Speaker 4: a lot of just competition and not much sleep until

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Speaker 4: I started to have tingling that I was diagnosed eventually

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Speaker 4: with multiple sclerosis. I was given the verdict. I was

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Speaker 4: told that it was not going to go away, that

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Speaker 4: it was going to deteriorate, it was going to get

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Speaker 4: more and more serious for me, that life.

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Speaker 3: Is going to be shorter.

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Speaker 4: And I just don't like to accept these kind of dictates,

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Speaker 4: And so I started to listen to all sorts of

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Speaker 4: spiritual teachings, which was not part of.

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Speaker 3: My vocabulary before.

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Speaker 4: That was in twenty eleven, and so it took sever

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Speaker 4: several years. I got myself on completely another journey, spiritual journey.

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Speaker 3: Eventually I stopped working for.

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Speaker 4: The bank, and I can tell you that today I

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Speaker 4: don't consider myself having MS anymore. I'm no longer on

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Speaker 4: any medication for the last five years. I don't need

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Speaker 4: to get my annual MRIs anymore.

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Speaker 3: So I'm done.

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Speaker 4: And you know that this was because of these different

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Speaker 4: way of looking at life that I had to do,

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Speaker 4: because there was no other choice for me over.

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Speaker 2: Our doctors mystified by what has happened with you.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that doctors are mystified, or at least

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Speaker 4: they don't show it outwardly.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, let's put it this way.

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Speaker 4: My doctor doesn't ask me, doesn't want to know anything

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Speaker 4: about what happened.

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't want to ask questions.

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Speaker 2: Was it this incredible change that got you into the

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Speaker 2: spiritual direction you're in now?

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was a very significant change for me because it

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Speaker 4: was a very normal life and what I learned doing

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Speaker 4: you know, for example, a year long a year long

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Speaker 4: sort of a class, a spiritual class, is that what

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Speaker 4: you see with your five census is not even a

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Speaker 3: Small part of what's out there. It's a tiny part.

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Speaker 4: I also learned a very important lesson that I was

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Speaker 4: not fundamentally broken, and therefore I needed I.

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Speaker 3: Did not need fixing.

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Speaker 4: You know, maybe that was the most fundamental lesson that

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Speaker 3: At a very deep way, you are never broken.

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Speaker 4: You don't start and stop and you don't and you

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Speaker 4: know you don't need somebody to fix you. But but

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Speaker 4: all this information that I was holding inside of me,

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Speaker 4: I had to change the way I viewed this information.

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Speaker 4: And when I let this information be viewed from another

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Speaker 4: point of view, everything started to change. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: didn't have to hold on to a body condition anymore

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Speaker 4: like it was when I was diagnosed.

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Speaker 2: What is it over about this combination of energy healing

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Speaker 2: and spiritual healing that makes it work?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 3: I believe it's because what.

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Speaker 4: Makes this body function in the first place is not

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Speaker 4: that there is you know that there is this machine

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Speaker 4: that is supposed to work, but that there is this

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Speaker 4: soul or spirit that are calling. And because they're calling,

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Speaker 4: nature organizes all these cells and all these body parts

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Speaker 4: that are coming together, and so you can say your

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Speaker 4: cells are here, your body is here because you called,

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Speaker 4: because your soul called, and so everything is driven differently

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Speaker 4: than what I was thinking. But because the soul and

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Speaker 4: the spirit are so strong, they create.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what we are.

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Speaker 4: We're co creating with what I call the divine And

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Speaker 4: so if you want to co create health, that's what

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Speaker 4: you do. If something if you forget who you are,

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Speaker 4: or if something becomes a distortion because we see things

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Speaker 2: Are you tapping into something in the universe that is

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Speaker 2: out there that someone like Jesus understood and did the same.

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Speaker 4: I would not try to say that I'm the same

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Speaker 4: But I feel, I mean, I actually really enjoy a

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Speaker 4: story about how Jesus healed and it really resonates with me.

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Speaker 4: And what it was is if somebody needed a healing,

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Speaker 4: he would he would ask, He would ask the spirit

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Speaker 4: if there is a healing for this person, and if

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Speaker 4: there was, he would then allow this healing to come

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Speaker 4: through him to the other person. If the person's spirit

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Speaker 4: was ready to receive, the person received the healing. If

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Speaker 4: Jesus received the healing. So that's one of the secrets

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Speaker 4: of healing work is if you work as a healer,

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Speaker 4: you always receive a healing as well.

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Speaker 2: Did the sick person the injured person have to be

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Speaker 3: It helps.

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Speaker 4: It certainly helps when somebody either really wants to be

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Speaker 3: So openness is important.

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Speaker 4: Believing not as much, because you know, belief, there's so

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Speaker 4: much about belief that becomes a block, energetic block. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that we're not lovable, becoming really uh.

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Speaker 3: Stop like like a block in our way to heal.

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Speaker 4: But being open, being willing to surrender what we what,

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Speaker 4: what are our ego wants? I think that's a big step.

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Speaker 4: And for me, becoming open was probably the biggest challenge.

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Speaker 4: Probably is still to some degree a challenge because because

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Speaker 3: But that's that's the key.

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Speaker 4: So it's not so much you know, but believing you know,

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Speaker 4: there is the placebo effect. It has proven been proven

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Speaker 4: over and over and if you believe it will it

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Speaker 3: It will certainly work.

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Speaker 2: You have something that is called the elk chemical flame.

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 4: The alchemical flame is what happened after I was so

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Speaker 3: Was like, enough about me, and.

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Speaker 4: So I studied with a shamanic healer and I then

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Speaker 4: started to practice, and eventually I started to ask, so

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Speaker 4: help people? And then I developed out of that this process.

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Speaker 4: So it was not a process that was just you know,

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Speaker 4: describing what I actually had been doing for years. And

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Speaker 3: Into one of them.

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Speaker 4: So, for example, you have the heart that holds all

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Speaker 4: And it is it's what it takes is understanding first,

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Speaker 4: And these judgments, these these opinions, these influences, this what

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Speaker 4: where we look at traumas. We look at traumas that

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Speaker 4: originated from past lives, traumas that originated from the lineage,

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Speaker 4: shadow realm because there are gifts in all the darkness.

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Speaker 3: There are gifts that waits to.

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Speaker 4: Be unfolded when you when you remove trauma, when you

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Speaker 4: because trauma. You know, it's like most animals know how

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Speaker 4: to get rid of trauma, get rid of whatever the

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Speaker 4: We just kind of bubble it up and keep it

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Speaker 4: it just gets triggered again. And so working on releasing traumas,

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Speaker 4: releasing them from the traumas, releasing the traumas themselves. There

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Speaker 3: And that's an example.

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Speaker 3: There is a cabalistic.

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Speaker 4: Realm that I call Doth, which is knowledge or knowing.

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Speaker 4: also want to accept divine love. When these two things happen,

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Speaker 3: And so that's what DOT is.

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Speaker 4: And then there is the divine realm, which is not

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Speaker 4: And when you see it through the divine eyes, everything shifts.

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Speaker 3: And so we learn how.

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Speaker 3: The dark is not worse than the light. It's all

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Speaker 4: It's just different frequencies on a scale, and we are

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Speaker 4: it's this is the fifth realm that I work with.

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Speaker 3: They usually fit.

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Speaker 4: In one of these realms or multiple realms, and that's

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Speaker 2: With over none of This book is called From Shadows

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Speaker 2: to Light. His website is linked up at coastocosdaem dot com. Well,

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Speaker 2: for of these five realms you've just gone through, how

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Speaker 2: many of them must you do in order to generate

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Speaker 4: Sometimes just one, that's all. Sometimes you just need to

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Speaker 3: We also have these people that are our sole family.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you can go into just one place and and

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Speaker 4: But I had you know, it's it's funny that you

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Speaker 4: Person that had a kidney the stage four we had

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Speaker 4: had to follow up with the doctors, and they could

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Speaker 4: After one session, they could not see anything. Now, this

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Speaker 3: And this is almost like a miracle.

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