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Speaker 1: Oh time, Steve class buckst fust time. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Now it's D day minus two until Draft day, draft

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Speaker 1: Day two plus two minus two, I don't know. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Welcome to One Bill's Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Driver right next door to the Bills Stadium, where

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Speaker 1: it looks like to me we may be able to

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Speaker 1: follow this as we watch on the on the MSG

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Speaker 1: feat Steven, I know they're gonna tear up the carpet

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Speaker 1: that prep work might be going on this week. Is

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Speaker 1: that red track around the outside. It's a whole darn thing.

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Speaker 1: You think, a whole surface. Yeah, pretty sure. See I

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Speaker 1: always told him, and they did it when they when

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Speaker 1: be in the new plan we'll see. I think it is.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the charging buffalo is gonna be huge.

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Speaker 1: charging buffalo. Yeah, I think it's gonna be like a

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Speaker 1: rule on that, right, right, I mean they makes who

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Speaker 1: the rules. They don't care. Now the guys who are

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Speaker 1: Your your shirt's gotta be you're right. I mean they

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Speaker 1: may with the logo. Yeah, but they can suspend the

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Speaker 1: I don't want any trouble about it, commission will go,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we just make a special dispensation. Think

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Speaker 1: there you go, that's changeo. You think that's how it works.

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Speaker 1: You don't think that's Come on, man, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: if Yeah, if Terry went in there and Kim or

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do Thanks. That's all that would be said.

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Speaker 1: I think, okay, all right, and it's a logo. Look,

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Speaker 1: I got other stuff I want to argue with your book.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue. I'm not taking the bait on that.

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Speaker 1: Let's start. We got other stuff to talk about. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. I'm John Murphy. This is Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: We're here until three o'clock this afternoon. We are two

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Speaker 1: days away from the draft. We're excited about that. It's

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Speaker 1: different this year, Steve. A year ago, I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about it today talking to some of the production crew.

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Speaker 1: A year ago this week, going into the draft, I

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Speaker 1: felt like I had a pretty good handle on where

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Speaker 1: didn't have it locked, but I knew that Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: the first round. The problem was a year ago this week,

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Speaker 1: how are they gonna get there? How are they gonna

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Speaker 1: get you know? What are they gonna have to do

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Speaker 1: to move up to get Josh Allen? They did it

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Speaker 1: a very successful first round last year. They're getting a

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Speaker 1: this year, I don't have the same level of confidence

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Speaker 1: I don't have a real good gamble on that. The

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Speaker 1: Internet to the teams, the local teams, the national teams,

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Speaker 1: guys on the NFL network on ESPN, everybody is neck

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Speaker 1: If you ever wanted to be a secret in some year,

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Speaker 1: So I think all the stuff coming out of these

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Speaker 1: we're like, we're not set in stone here. We don't

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Speaker 1: We're not the Arizona Cardinals, who are running a system

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Speaker 1: That might be one step. Oh, they got a timetable

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Speaker 1: Montes Sweat, you got the Senior Bowl. You loved him.

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Speaker 1: He won't be there at number nine this week. The

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Speaker 1: team responsible for these rumors. Let's drive drive his stock

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Speaker 1: there come out of this building. Who knows the bill?

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Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? Because say, well you know our who

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Speaker 1: was it that? Uh? Brandon Beans said last week he

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Speaker 1: be too liberal. Well those are guys like Montez Sweat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and there's other guys. This guy, this guy's got a shoulder, Uh,

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Speaker 1: this stuff's going around. So there's so there is a

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Speaker 1: you're going out there and say, lesson, we're not we're

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Speaker 1: not set in stone about where we're gonna draft and

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna look like. We'll take a phone call.

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Speaker 1: We'll be willing to trade up, we'll be trade down.

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Speaker 1: We're very open to conversations and you don't want that guy.

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Speaker 1: There's there's sabotage and guys they're putting it out there

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Speaker 1: up in the first round by packaging all those What

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Speaker 1: did we figure last week? It would take every pick

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Speaker 1: from what round three on to get the Bills into

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Speaker 1: the first round somewhere, maybe more than that. It would

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Speaker 1: be ten the math this week they would have to

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Speaker 1: flip flop ones with who ever it was and throw

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Speaker 1: in well, he's talking about taking your one and nine,

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Speaker 1: I think, aren't you rich and getting back in the

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Speaker 1: first round. I think he was. Yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's doable. Yeah, you'd be you'd get

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Speaker 1: instead of getting ten players in this draft, you get

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Speaker 1: two or three, maybe three, and the third one would

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Speaker 1: be a seventh rounder. So it just takes too much

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Speaker 1: draft capital to get up there. Unless and this is

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Speaker 1: and this is yet gives you an idea of the

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Speaker 1: subtleties of this. Unless they don't give they get back

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Speaker 1: into the first round without giving up a draft pick,

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Speaker 1: and they do it with players or other compensation, like

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Speaker 1: give him a fifth and sixth and seventh, give him

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Speaker 1: three draft picks late rounds, and then give him a

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Speaker 1: quality player. Look, I just did the math. If you

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Speaker 1: feel like you can do that, I don't think you can.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it last week. The Jimmy Johnson value chart, right,

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Speaker 1: and it's not a law, and it might not be

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Speaker 1: applicable in many cases, but it's it's a starting point

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Speaker 1: for this discussion. So to get to the end of

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Speaker 1: the first round, you need six hundred points, and points

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Speaker 1: are just randomly assigned based on the number of picks

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Speaker 1: you have. If the Bills gave up let's see, they're

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Speaker 1: third rounder and everything they have. After the two rounder

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Speaker 1: two twenty, they'd have about four hundred points to deal with.

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Speaker 1: They're two hundred points short to get back in the

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Speaker 1: end of there's just not enough atom of the first round.

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Speaker 1: You there's not enough capital in that deal to get

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Speaker 1: them into the first round. The first rounders are so

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Speaker 1: valuable now. And this is a problem as well because

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Speaker 1: once you're in this thing, all the thirty two teams

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Speaker 1: you're dealing with are in the same draft as you.

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Speaker 1: It's not like they can, you know, come in and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we've got this and you know we can give you this.

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Speaker 1: And because if they see the same draft board as you,

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Speaker 1: and they evaluate this pool of players the same way

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Speaker 1: you do, there's no reason for them to give you

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Speaker 1: a deal that's great for you because it's not going

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Speaker 1: to be as great for them. There's nobody out there

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Speaker 1: that outweighs the draft picks because there's so many guys

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Speaker 1: available later in this draft. They're gonna be quality. There's

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Speaker 1: just no reason and to spend the picks that are

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Speaker 1: still going to be quality in the back end of

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Speaker 1: this draft and to get jumped forward because the guys

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Speaker 1: you're jumping forward with for the most part, are the same,

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Speaker 1: are the same guys. So I think in this draft

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see teams, it's gonna go one way or

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Speaker 1: the other. You're going to see a couple of moves

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Speaker 1: at the top of the draft. Maybe Other than that,

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Speaker 1: this draft may be set in stone. Nobody may move.

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Speaker 1: But I have a hard time seeing that given the

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Speaker 1: propensity of teams to move around lately. But do you

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Speaker 1: think about it if it may lend itself to nobody

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Speaker 1: moving because they just don't want to give up the picks.

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Speaker 1: There's a call from Eric and Lancaster. Eric, your thoughts

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Speaker 1: best case scenario for the Bills first round Thursday night?

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Speaker 1: What do you have? I don't know if I really

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Speaker 1: have a best case scenario or but first off, Steve

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Speaker 1: is definitely Hall of Famer. Just want to throw it

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Speaker 1: out there, Murph loved the show, Love the Chase Galla

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Speaker 1: when you let it yes last year. My question is

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Speaker 1: I know that we were talking about how Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: maybe not going first overall could throw a monkey ranch

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Speaker 1: in this draft. But I've had two or three different

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Speaker 1: articles about the Raiders having a surprise pick that's gonna

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Speaker 1: throw a monkey Ranching area. Yep, yeah, I had one thought.

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Speaker 1: And see if this goes to something we talked about yesterday,

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Speaker 1: the raiders mysterious move of throwing their scouts out of

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Speaker 1: the draft room now for the final week before the draft.

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Speaker 1: Some people today link that to this mysterious guy that

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Speaker 1: the Raiders have in mind, and some people link it

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Speaker 1: to U Kyler Murray. We talked about that this morning.

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Speaker 1: You think that's ridiculous, right, Kyler Murray might be the

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Speaker 1: Raiders guy, and that's why they here's the thing. With

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Speaker 1: three number one picks and you got the top pick

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Speaker 1: of the draft and it's a quarterback, the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: could could give that pick to the Raiders, take the four,

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Speaker 1: the twenty four, and the twenty seven pick from the

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Speaker 1: Raiders and get three first rounders to bolster a roster

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Speaker 1: that was decimated last year. They've still got last year's

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Speaker 1: number ten overall pick in Josh Rosen at quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: they can get three first rounders in on their roster

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Speaker 1: in return for that. So the Raiders have the capital

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Speaker 1: to do it, There's no question about it, and it

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Speaker 1: does lend it. It is unusual for them to kick

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Speaker 1: everybody out of the building because there's some super secret

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Speaker 1: thing going on. And John Gruden is a quarterback junkie.

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Speaker 1: He goes through those guys like laundry. He did it

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Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay. He's hard on those guys. And just

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Speaker 1: the simple fact that Derek Carr is there doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: they don't still don't have a pigeant for bringing another

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Speaker 1: one in. So yeah, I heard that too, that there

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Speaker 1: isn't it is out there that the Raiders are going

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Speaker 1: to do something that is off the wall. They've got

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Speaker 1: the capital to do it. We'll see if if they

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Speaker 1: if it comes down to getting it done. But that's

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Speaker 1: a wild card, no question about it. I don't know though,

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Speaker 1: three first round draft picks. I think you gotta. I

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Speaker 1: think you gotta spend him. I don't think he trade him.

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Speaker 1: Do they need a quarterback? No, I knew that get

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Speaker 1: him going. I don't think they do either. No, the

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Speaker 1: guys that I was twelve and four with Jack del

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Speaker 1: Rio as his head coach, I mean, what are you doing. No,

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Speaker 1: he's writing this, but you signed him to one hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollar contract. No, I don't think so either. No,

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Speaker 1: you did maximize him, help him, give him what he needs.

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Speaker 1: To be successful. I agree. I knew that had get

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Speaker 1: him going. Hey, Steve and I had given this, I

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Speaker 1: gotta We've talked about this and it comes down to this.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to this as the draft Round one approaches

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night. Who they're gonna pick? I got a

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Speaker 1: text from my cousin today. Who's your prediction for a

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Speaker 1: first round here? I don't know. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: Steve and I have took a stab at at this morning.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to this when we return. Basically, our

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Speaker 1: stab is this, we each name four players, four players each,

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Speaker 1: four different players each who we think out of that

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Speaker 1: combined eight, will one of them will be the Bill's

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Speaker 1: first round first pick? Maybe? Uh oh yeah, first pick,

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Speaker 1: first round first pick. Yeah, we think they're all going

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Speaker 1: to be available too. Well, yeah, we limited it. We

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Speaker 1: kind of factored that in who's going to be there? Right?

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Speaker 1: We don't think Kyler Murray's gonna be there. We don't

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Speaker 1: think Quinn and Williams is going to be there. So

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Speaker 1: we got four each. We will reveal those when we return.

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Speaker 1: We want to hear more from you. Best case scenario

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Speaker 1: for the Bills in the first round. You can do

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Speaker 1: it on the phone eight oh three five fifty and

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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: You can do it on Twitter at one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Let us know best case scenario. We'll let you know

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Speaker 1: who we think. We'll give you some names anyway, eight

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Speaker 1: names who we think the Bills might come up with. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we want to invite you Units in the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: They're holding an annual blood drive this May fourth. It's

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Speaker 1: coming up. It's a week from Saturday, May fourth, ten

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Speaker 1: am to four pm at the dun Tire Club at

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Speaker 1: New Airfield. The drive will take place at dun Tire Club,

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Speaker 1: will have food trucks, inflatable activities and fun for the

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Speaker 1: whole family. You have inflatable activities to your house, don't you?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't know. It says inflatable activities.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that. When was the last time you

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Speaker 1: were in the Bount's house. Oh it's been a while, right,

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Speaker 1: Don't you didn't have a Bounce house at the Fourth

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Speaker 1: of July party last year. The Bill's Blood Drive coming

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Speaker 1: up Saturday May four, ten am to four pm. To

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Speaker 1: sign up, visit Units dot org. Steve and I coming

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Speaker 1: back One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back, John Murphy, Steve Task here, One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bills Drive Talk. What do you

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Speaker 1: think we're talking about? We're talking about the draft. It's

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Speaker 1: two days away on Thursday. We're on the air from

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Speaker 1: noon to three pm right here on our regular venue

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Speaker 1: and then at night on radio only on our flagship

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo eight pm till whenever, whenever the Bills are

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Speaker 1: finished with their business on Thursday night. Friday, we got

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Speaker 1: the five Hours show. Friday, we go ten two, three

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Speaker 1: pm because we'll have hopefully be some contact with the

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Speaker 1: decision makers and with um the first pick, whoever it is.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're trying to figure out. Who is the

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Speaker 1: first pick? Who do we think the Bills are gonna

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Speaker 1: wind up with? We want to know from you your

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Speaker 1: best case scenario for the Bills in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. Steve and I took a stab at it today,

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Speaker 1: just kind of figuring out, let's get some names together,

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Speaker 1: other guys that we think the Bills will wind up with.

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Speaker 1: One of these guys, So we each chose four. We

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Speaker 1: went down the list we're ready to justify our picks.

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Speaker 1: We're interested in your feedback on that too. If you

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Speaker 1: think we're crazy, if you hear, if you don't hear

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Speaker 1: a name that you think the Bills are going to

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Speaker 1: get in the first round, please give us a call.

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Speaker 1: Tell us who we've forgotten or we have overlooked. We've

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Speaker 1: probably given us some thought right and came up with

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Speaker 1: reasons why we don't think I'll wind up with the Bills.

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Speaker 1: So keep that in mind. If you don't hear the

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Speaker 1: name of your favorite or your guy that you think

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Speaker 1: the Bills are going to get in our little back

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Speaker 1: and forth year, give us a call. Eight O three

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Speaker 1: five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. It's the one Bills live survivor draft.

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Speaker 1: Who were the Bills select with their first pick? And

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Speaker 1: we know it could come at nine. I think we

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Speaker 1: both did this based on ninth overall. Maybe they trade

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Speaker 1: back and then our list becomes a little bit less accurate.

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Speaker 1: Here's how we did it too, And we both went

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Speaker 1: through and picked some names, and obviously we had some

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Speaker 1: names that overlap because we sit here and talk about

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Speaker 1: the exact same thing every day. So what we did

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Speaker 1: was we whoever came I went first, I told him

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Speaker 1: who my guy was, he had a different one. And

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Speaker 1: then whoever we had overlapped, whoever's turn it was, got

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Speaker 1: to keep that guy, and the other one had to

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Speaker 1: pick another. This we got four names that are four

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Speaker 1: different names for each of us, and I'm holding in

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Speaker 1: my hand a two thousand and seven quarter to decide

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Speaker 1: who goes first, commemorative quarter of Utah's the state of Utah. Okay,

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Speaker 1: do we have it? Do you or any of your

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Speaker 1: draft prospects from Utah? Okay, I'll flip the coin, and

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Speaker 1: whoever heads or tails do you want me to call it?

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Speaker 1: Call it tails heads. Okay, so goes first. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go and put that away. So don't see one in

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Speaker 1: order of I guess the likelihood that they become Buffalo Bills, Right,

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Speaker 1: that's right, this is likelihood. Who are gonna be? Who's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the bills first pick on Thursday's draft? Basically,

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Speaker 1: what this is, I think this is the best player

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Speaker 1: that comes to number nine for the Bills to pick

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00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: of all the guys I think that are going to

640
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: be drafted, and based on their needs and the this

641
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: is I guess this would be my first pick that

642
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: the Bills take that I think is going to be

643
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: there at nine, and I picked offensive tackle Jonah Williams

644
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: from Alabama. He's gonna be on the board. He's a

645
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: dynamite player. He's an absolute perfect culture fit. The guy

646
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: has spreadsheets and game film and self scouting about his

647
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: technique and about his games against other players. He takes

648
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: his craft very seriously. He's the perfect cultural fit for

649
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bills teams that has gone to great links

650
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: to upgrade its offensive line. He played left tackle for

651
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: the for one of the two or three most dominant

652
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: college programs in the country, and he did it for

653
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: a couple of years. That's my guy, Jonah will I

654
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be there. I think the Bills will

655
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: take him. For the record, I hit him in my

656
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: top four that I dropped when Steve picked him, But

657
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: I like that pick, and at the familiarity the Deabo

658
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: would have for him, I think he adds to it

659
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: as well. All right, So that's Steve going with the back.

660
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: By the way, I also think best available big Man

661
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: is a solid overall overarching philosophy for the Bills this trap,

662
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: but I didn't go best available big man with my

663
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: first pick. I went best available big receiver. And look,

664
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: I know, I caught a lot of flak after the

665
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: combine about my so called love affair with DK Metcalf.

666
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm over the love affair, but I really liked the guy,

667
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: and I think it really hits what the Bills need.

668
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: A playmaker, a playmaking receiver. I got Dk Metcalf as

669
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: my first one ranked number one on my list, checks

670
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: off a ton of boxes. Is he a finished product?

671
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. He is not a finished product, but most

672
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: receivers are not. I think he's got the size and

673
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: the physicality to be a dominant receiver in the league,

674
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: a perfect compliment to Josh Allen from last year. A

675
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: big time playmaker, and they need plays. I love John

676
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: Brown and I like Cole Beasley a lot, but this

677
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: guy is a different type and as the body and

678
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: the physicality and the athleticism to be and one a

679
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL. So that's where I'm going. Playmaker

680
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: for the offense. DK Metcalf, that's the guy I think

681
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: the Bills wind up with in the first round. And

682
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: I think the pence of Cole Beasley and John Brown

683
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: enhance his abilities here because he'll have two established pro

684
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: wide receivers in the room with him from day one.

685
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: Those guys are gonna show him and by example and

686
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, and through you know, just question and answer

687
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: and becoming a teammate, they're gonna show him how it's done.

688
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a much different wide receiver room for

689
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, if indeed he's this guy than it was

690
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: for say Zay Jones or Ray Ray McLeod or Robert Foster,

691
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: those guys. They're gonna have a guy now. They had

692
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin last year, but this is going to be

693
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: a much different room this year. And I think Dk

694
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: Metcalf will blossom a little quicker if he's the guy

695
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: that comes in here. Certainly he's raw, but I think,

696
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: like I said, I think you're right, he checks a

697
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: lot of boxes. And now the culture on the Bills,

698
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: it should maybe have the effect that they wanted to

699
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: on these young players, get him developed faster because of

700
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: the culture in one build in one builds drive all right,

701
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: So who do the Bills wind up with in the

702
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: first round? Steve and I are taking a stab at

703
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: at throwing darts. We've each thrown our first dark time

704
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: for Steve to throw his second dart. Who the Bills

705
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: wind up with the first going we're going one one one,

706
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: We're not going one two two one ye one two two.

707
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: Right here we go my second guy. I'm gonna kind

708
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: of stick with the with the SAME's tenant. I'm at

709
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: number nine, the second guy. If all those other guys

710
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: are out of there, I think Andre Dillard, offensive tackle

711
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: from Washington State six five three fifteen. He's a big,

712
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: big body. I think he will be if if Jonah

713
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Williams is not there, I think this is the next

714
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: guy they take. I still think the Buffalo Bills stay

715
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: with offensive line to development well. I think with the

716
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: additions of the guys we talked about Cole Beasley, John

717
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: Brown in this draft, Frank Gore, t j Yelden, and

718
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: any guys down further in the draft that they can

719
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: get I think even if some of the other guys

720
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: are are available here. In fact, I think of de

721
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: Ca Metcalf, I'd still take. I still take Jonah Williams.

722
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Andre Dillard over him and Jonah Williams, because

723
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: I think you can get a quality guy at that

724
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: other position, a wide receiver later in the draft. So

725
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: Andre Dillard would be my second choice. Six five, three

726
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: fifteen out of Washington, stayed big offensive tackle. I got it,

727
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: and I get it. You know, two offensive linemen, your

728
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: first two that you've selected, you've thrown darts at who

729
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna wind up with. I understand that.

730
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: I just they're not fun. I want to have some fun.

731
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: We're still talking about the number nine pick to right, Yeah,

732
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: oh yeah, number nine, So number nine my second pick.

733
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: And this guy may not last at number nine. As

734
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: I said, I saw kind of surprisingly saw over the

735
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: last few days people ranking him among the top four,

736
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: top five. But I know they're interested in at Oliver

737
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: fits right into what they need a new three technique

738
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: to replace Kyle Williams. Extremely athletic player at Oliver from Houston.

739
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: He would be my another guest that I would make

740
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: with the Bills wind up with in the first round.

741
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: My second best guest at Oliver. His athleticism is hustle.

742
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit undersized, arms, a little short.

743
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: I see all that. I get all that, but I

744
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: think he is ready to play, ready to contribute. And

745
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: ready to start for the Buffalo Bills if they draft him.

746
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: So that'd be my pick. That's who I would pick

747
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: with my second dart, Steve and I throwing darts trying

748
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: to pick at the end. We're gonna have eight names.

749
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: We're also gonna have a wager on this. I'll get

750
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: into that, yeah, because among these eight, one of us

751
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: is likely to have the guy that the Bills get.

752
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: And look, we could have picked up We don't have

753
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: to have a wager, we just have a reward. We

754
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: could have picked ten names too. But then what are

755
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: we doing, right? Anybody could sit there right there a

756
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: little chance being taken here. There's a chance I'm taking

757
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: here that Oliver is gone. Yeah, and I'll tell you this.

758
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: He was on my four guys too, my list as well,

759
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: but you took him, so I had to cross him

760
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: off and take a different player. I think Ed Oliver

761
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: if he's there, he'll be really really attractive for the

762
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: Bills right at that spot. He uh And for me,

763
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: as you can tell, I'm right with you, Murph. I'd

764
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: like the two offensive tackles and I like Ed Oliver.

765
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm staying I'm staying away from the skill guys and

766
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: at the top. I go for the big guys and

767
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: the big bodies. Your football team starts from where the

768
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: football lines up on a scrimmage and goes out from there.

769
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: So you start at the offensive and defensive lines and

770
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: build your team there. And I think if you're talking

771
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: about number nine, top ten pick, that's where, particularly in

772
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: a year like this for the Bills, you stay there

773
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: until you get it right. And so I'm with you.

774
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: If Ed Oliver's there, that's a that's a great call.

775
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: One of the Bills wind up within the first round.

776
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: Steven I thrown darts. We've each got four darts. The

777
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: throw we've each thrown two. Steve, throw your third dart,

778
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: my third dart. T J. Hockinson the tight end. Like

779
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: I said, I'm still staying in around the football. They're

780
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: building their team from the time out and from the

781
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: from the ball out. Hockinson is a three down NFL

782
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: prototype tight end. It doesn't mean he's gonna be great.

783
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean he's a can't miss, because you never

784
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: know about these guys. But he runs routes, he catches

785
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: the ball, tracks the ball in the air, and he

786
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: is a dominant. He is the most dominant tight end

787
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: blocker in this draft, maybe in the last couple of drafts.

788
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: He's really good at it, and he is a great

789
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: pass catcher route runner as well, so he's a full

790
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: package and he also helps the run game. I think

791
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: he is. If he's there, he may well be the

792
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: guy the Bills get. I think it's a perfect fit

793
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: at this point in history for the Bills. It'll be

794
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: maybe the most popular, one of the most popular picks

795
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: the Bills could make. Hockinson has a lot of fans.

796
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: I'd like him a lot. I had him on my

797
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: original list. He took him before I did, so I

798
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: surrendered Hockinson I will. I just want to repeat something

799
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: I said last week though, the fact that long time

800
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: Bills fans say, well, the Bills have never had a

801
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: dominant tight end, so that's why they need to draft TJ. Hockinson. No,

802
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: this draft is not about writing past wrongs, you know

803
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. Who's gonna help him win this year,

804
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 1: next year, the next ten years. That's what the draft

805
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: is about. It's not about, well we did we had

806
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: the seventeen year playoff drop because we did not have

807
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: a good tight end. No, absolutely not that's no reason

808
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: to pick anybody, including a really really good tight end

809
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: like T. J. Hockinson. All right, even I picking our

810
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: selections here throwing darts who the bill is gonna wind

811
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: up with in the first round, and my third dart

812
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: goes to a name, And look, this is a visual

813
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: impression I had from the Senior Bowl last third week

814
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: of January. Senior Bowl. Go out, watch practice. The greatest

815
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: thing about the Senior Bowl is the practice. Also the

816
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: mobile Alabama Sunshine. I go out there and there's one

817
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: guy who jumped out first day and continue to jump

818
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: out every day. Down there defensive and Montes Sweat from

819
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, long arms, great pass rusher. He dominated in

820
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl workouts. He made a lot of offensive

821
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: lineman look bad down there in Mobile. He was ready

822
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: to go. And again I'm back to his long arms.

823
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: Just a tremendous physical specimen. I read about the heart issues.

824
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: Maybe you know what else? Had heard issues a couple

825
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: of years ago in the draft Starlotulale. He turned out

826
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: okay too, no problem. He had heard issues that were

827
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: discovered at the combine. Look, Montes Sweat is a dominant player.

828
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: He might not be there another guy that might not

829
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: be there at number nine, or if you believe the

830
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: latest room, he might be there in the second round.

831
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: But I got him. I like him. I'm hoping the

832
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: Bills like him too. I got Montes Sweat with my

833
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: third dart in this little exercise we're doing, too, and

834
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: we picked four different guys. But it doesn't mean we

835
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: don't think all these guys are quality. And let me

836
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: just Montes Sweat is a guy. Here's why I think

837
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: the Bills would love this guy. And I don't know

838
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: about it. I took him off my board because of

839
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: his medical and I don't know anything more than anybody

840
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: else does. But what am I doing? I was scared

841
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: off by it. I'm a sheep. So but here's the

842
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: thing about Montes Sweat. You're right, Murph. I didn't know

843
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: Montes Sweat from anybody until the Senior bon when you

844
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: go down there, and not only did he jump out physically,

845
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: athletically and skill wise at a very important position the

846
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: Bills are looking for edge rusher, he also got voted

847
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: team captain of that group. He's a guy that stood

848
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: out with his character and his leadership. That is a

849
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: culture fit in Buffalo. That's what the kind of guys

850
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: Buffalo was looking for. They're kind of guys who make

851
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: guys around them better, who draw guys towards themselves, you

852
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: know who, who become the center of attention because guys

853
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: rallied to guys with him kind of character. That's why

854
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: Montes Sweat would be a great pick for the Bills.

855
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: It's just like I said with Jonah Williams, the tackle

856
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: from Alabama. They're they're guys who are a cut above

857
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: character wise. They that fit into what they're trying to

858
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: build here. And for all his athletic ability and all

859
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: his all of that, Murph, it's the character thing that

860
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: that sets him apart, I think and makes him more

861
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: attractive to the Bills. Steve and I trying to guess

862
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: who the Bills will select with their first round pick,

863
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: or their first pick, even if it's not in the

864
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: first round. And we've had four darts each, Steve, you're

865
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: down to your fourth and final dart where you're throwing him.

866
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: My guy is Rashaun Gary Michigan. I think by this

867
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: time and going down my list, I think he's a

868
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, defensive end. He's six four and three fourths

869
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: almost six five almost three. It's two seventy seven, and

870
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: he is slated to go somewhere right in, you know,

871
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: the middle of the first round. There's certainly they are

872
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: better guys, more accomplished edge rushers. The thing that bothers

873
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: me about Rashaun Gary is that despite his athleticism and

874
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: how good he was played for a good program at Michigan,

875
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: the production really wasn't off the charts. It wasn't like

876
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: this guy was everywhere, But he ran a four six

877
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 1: one or four five nine forty. The guy can move

878
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: for a defensive tackle. He can scoot. That's a big plus.

879
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna end if he hasn't a high motor a

880
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: guy like that, if he's one of those guys that

881
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: can get into the rotation, he's going to cause some

882
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: problems for some offensive lineman because of his ability to

883
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: get out and run. So I think Rashaun Gary is

884
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: the fourth guy on my list, all right. I know

885
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: he's been linked to the Bills in some quarters. I

886
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: read some troubling things about his lack of consistency sometimes,

887
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: and I don't know that to be a fact, but

888
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: I have read that. But yeah, that's a legitimate pick.

889
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: My fourth and final dart goes to defensive tackle Christian

890
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: Wilkins from Clemson six what three six three, three hundred

891
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds well put together, he's not a fat three

892
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: hundred fifteen pounds. Three time All American. Christian Wilkins on

893
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: a championship caliber team at Clemson Tigers fills a need

894
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: for the Bills interior defensive lineman. I think I liked it.

895
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 1: I know I like this guy. I think the Bills

896
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: will like how he plays, how he comports himself, smart player,

897
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: I think here. Let me just read you what and

898
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: he was kind of brought mostly to my attention from

899
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: Dan Shaka last week from our Lands. Let me read

900
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: read what Chaka wrote about him, which is not a

901
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: physical description. Shocker writes, he is a winning football player

902
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: that makes others better and will be a defensive coordinator's favorite,

903
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: most first little toy. That kind of clenched it for me.

904
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: I thought, who wouldn't want a guy who can move

905
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: around a little bit, played at the championship level in college.

906
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: He's kind of a high motor guy. He's my guy.

907
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: My fourth darts, so Steve and I have thrown four

908
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: darts at a total of eight players that we think

909
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: the Bills the Bills are gonna wind. The bills first

910
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: pick will be one of these eight. Now, come on,

911
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: we don't have to bet or wager. I know you're

912
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: but one of us. We got eight and the Bills

913
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: right now, pick ninth. I think one of us has

914
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: the guy, don't you. I think bills first pick is

915
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: somewhere on that I do. I do. So whoever gets

916
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: it's got to get something for his effort. Yeah, that's absolutely.

917
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: We'll talk. We can. We can spend the rest of

918
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: the week talking about what we're gonna get, particularly if

919
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: it turns out to be me. But the problem is

920
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: what if it's not. Look, we live in the building

921
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: and we weren't even on the map. Not on the map,

922
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: I acknowledge metcalf Oliver. I wanted to make it fun though,

923
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: And as I said, we could have picked six players

924
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: each and now we got twelve. Well, here he would

925
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: have been a lot closer to having the right answer.

926
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: I think we're on a little bit of a little

927
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: bit of an island here. It's a little bit of

928
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: a risk to try to pick the right guy. And

929
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: I think two of our eight we had. You had

930
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: to switch two guys, h and I had to switch one.

931
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: So it's actually it's more like five guys. Yeah, you know,

932
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean right, it's because I was in on Hockinson

933
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: with you. I was in on Jonah Williams with you.

934
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: I'm on on Ed Oliver for you. Yeah, and I

935
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: took Montes sweat only I just took Monthes sweat off

936
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: the board because of his heart. So it's like our

937
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: guys are pretty overlapped in truth be told, and we went,

938
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: we went, we expanded it so we'd each have four.

939
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe we'll save that for tomorrow. We're

940
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: gonna like consolidate our listening. You can't anymore, no, no, no,

941
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: we'll cut some guys out. Oh hone in You and

942
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: I are both now are combined. Now it's getting really hard,

943
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: right because well we'll go back, we'll do our fourth

944
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: thing and well and well we'll see how we overlap.

945
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think today. And by the way,

946
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna save that graphic, that list of eight, the

947
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: Gang of eight. We'll save that for Thursday night that

948
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 1: we'll come back on Thursday night when we're on the area.

949
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. Who are we missing?

950
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: Those are our eight. The two of us combine, those

951
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: are our eight. We think the bills first pick on

952
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: Thursday night comes from that list. Maybe you got somebody else.

953
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: Give us a call lines open eight o three oh

954
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: five fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight

955
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty or tweeted in. We'll

956
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: read some tweets and we don't know what you're best

957
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: case scenario for Thursday night. It's One Bill's Live, presented

958
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: by Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

959
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show, John Murphy, Steve

960
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: Tasker coming up at one o'clock. We're going to talk

961
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: more about the draft with Gary Gramlin, who covers the

962
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: draft in the NFL for Sports Illustrated dot Com. That

963
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: was fun, Steve, we should do that more often. I

964
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: do think we should have the draft every week. Right, No, no, no, no,

965
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: we had enough draft. I do think adding a little

966
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: not a bet, but you gotta have something at stake.

967
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: When the draft is a prize, you gotta have a

968
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: prize for either you or me who gets the guy.

969
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: A couple of response is interesting on Twitter about what

970
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: we just did. Steve and I thrown darts at the

971
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: four eight total. There's one I really want to do. Oh,

972
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 1: here's one. Um and you saw this too, they said

973
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: on NFL Network this morning. This is from Chappie who says,

974
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: they said on NFL Network this morning, Rashan Garry has

975
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: a torn Labraham's gonna need surgery either before or after

976
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: the season. You know it is. It's a lot like

977
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: La that's right. Yeah, at the surgery. I think about

978
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: a month after he was drafted, showed up week eight,

979
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: has a rookie season. Yeah, that's that's a problem. Yeah,

980
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: here's one too. Nicholas the Carry tweets this and if

981
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: we don't get a tight end in this draft, I quit.

982
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: He says, this is the most ridiculous conversation I've ever heard.

983
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: What's the matter with you, guys? T J. Hopkinson from

984
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: Iowa obvious, Um, you don't see this. I don't think

985
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: it's obvious. No, I don't say I think it's a

986
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: good pick. I think it's an hasty pick. I don't

987
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: think it's obvious. There's a lot of talent on that board.

988
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: It's a lot of talent and there's other places. They

989
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: have needs a lot of different places. He turns into

990
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: Marcedes Lewis. Pretty good, pretty good, tight end, pretty good,

991
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah that you took with a top ten pick. Yeah,

992
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: pretty good tight end. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing. There's

993
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: all these guys seem great and they seem awesome, but

994
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: there's just no guarantees, and you have to weigh what

995
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: you project, what you think. I mean, these guys, the scouts,

996
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: the coaches, they've had their eyes on these guys, I mean,

997
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: live in the room talking to them. They've watched them,

998
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: they've run them through drills, they've looked at them, they've

999
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: talked to their coaches. They've kind of gotten to know

1000
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: these guys. So if T. J. Hawkinson impressed Sean McDermott,

1001
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: Brandon being enough and more so than you know, Jonah

1002
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: Williams or one other player to another position, I mean,

1003
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: that's that's what it's about Ed Oliver, if they pressed

1004
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: him more than Ed Oliver and this other guy, this

1005
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins out of Clemson. He's supposedly a really sharp player,

1006
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: very intelligent and has a really high motor. Guys like

1007
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: that get better and they get better in year one,

1008
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: and they get better in year eight than they were

1009
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: in year seven, and they get better in year ten

1010
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: than they were in year nine. They get better and

1011
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: better and better and better. Fast motor guys who are

1012
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: smart get better, and you get a guy who's really

1013
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: good to begin with, and you end up with a

1014
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: guy like Kyle Williams who goes to six Pro Bowls. Yeah,

1015
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: wonder why people what you're looking for? It? Like, why

1016
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: would you say you quit if they don't take t J. Hockinson. Look,

1017
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: if they take t J. Hockinson, I'm fine with that.

1018
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm good with that. I know he's gonna be a

1019
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: good player. There are other good players too. Um, I

1020
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: don't think you can approach a draft like that guy

1021
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: or bust this guy or I'm gone, you know I

1022
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: really Yeah, I think after a couple of years and

1023
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 1: we got another segment maybe at wait till tomorrow about

1024
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: these last two drafts. While McDermott has been here two years,

1025
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: being here last year, Um, what do you like about

1026
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: those guys? But I don't want to get into it now.

1027
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: But no, there's seven guys still on the ross or no,

1028
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: they had seven picks last year. No, that's not right.

1029
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: How many had two? Three? You're missing one there. They

1030
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: had eight guys in the draft last year and this

1031
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: year and the one before that they had six guys

1032
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: they picked. So you know, this is their third draft,

1033
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: this crew. What do we know about them from the

1034
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: first two drafts into this draft? And that's the interesting thing.

1035
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: They got some pretty good guys. You think about Matt

1036
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: Milano showing up in the fifth round, you know that's

1037
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: a guy who and I read it in an article

1038
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: and you thought I was crazy, But there was somebody

1039
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: right writing about how Matt Milano they thought was headed

1040
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: of the Pro Bowl this last year before he got

1041
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: his leg broken. You know, they've got some pretty good

1042
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: track record. People were applauding them, and I think a

1043
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: lot of Bills fans are very happy with the way

1044
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: they handled the draft last year. So the point is

1045
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: there has to be an element of trust that the

1046
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: attracts they've earned. I'm talking about McDermott and being and

1047
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: their staff's personnel department in particular. They've earned an element

1048
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: of trust. That's right. So to say, if it's not

1049
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: this guy, my guy who I really want, I'm out,

1050
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: I quit. I think that's a little bit short. Well,

1051
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: you gotta hear the their reasoning. Yeah, and you got

1052
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: to see the guy play and you can look back

1053
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: on it. I mean, who who isn't There's ten teams

1054
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: out there who whiffed on on the quarterback from the

1055
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: Chiefs Mahome, Patrick Mahomes. Ten teams whiffed on him. Didn't

1056
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: even the didn't even he wouldn't even they didn't draft him.

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Speaker 1: And now you know this Ye's MVP. Two years into

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00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: his career, the Bills traded the pick. You know why

1059
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: if you're telling me you hung on board after that,

1060
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: why would you jump off board? Wait? Wait right? You

1061
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: think the Bills aren't sitting there going Oh everybody is right,

1062
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: It's like, how do you know? So if you're gonna

1063
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: do that over a tied in from Iowa? Okay, bro,

1064
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: you're just waiting for your opportunity to just get off

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00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: for the next stop. You know you don't have to wait.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to wait until they don't pick Hawk,

1067
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: because they just get off now because it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk more about the draft, wee Gary Grammling

1069
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: from si dot com when we come back for Hour

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Speaker 1: number two. Come on back, won't you? One does line

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida Health from One Bills Drive and this

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network Stories Update.

1073
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: The update from One Bills Drive. The Bills finishing up

1074
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: another day of their voluntary offseason conditioning program. They'll be

1075
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: here a couple of days the rest of this week. Meantime,

1076
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals and five other teams open their voluntary

1077
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: mini camps today, the Bengals, the Browns, the Packers, the Jets,

1078
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 1: and the Tampa Bay Bucks. These camps run Tuesday through Thursday.

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Speaker 1: This week. Coaches now can get on the field with

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00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: these teams. These are teams with the new head coaches

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00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: this year. That's why they're about a week ahead of

1082
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: the Bills in terms of the schedule for the offseason workouts.

1083
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: Pre draft process remains in place with a couple of

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00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: days until the NFL Draft news today and Rashaan Garry,

1085
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: the Michigan defensive lineman, has a shoulder that has been

1086
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: noted by teams sources informed of the situation today a

1087
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: laboral tear from college. Most believe he can play this

1088
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: season and then possibly have surgery afterwards. They would have

1089
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: to manage that injury as the season went along. The

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00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers have decided to pick up the fifth

1091
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: year option on Joey Bosa. According to NFL Network, the

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00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: move keeps the pass rusher with the Chargers through the

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00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: twenty twenty season, picking up a fifth year of Bosa's contract.

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Speaker 1: Number three overall pick in two sixteen, the first non

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00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: quarterback drafted that year. Three years ago, he has become

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00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: one of the top pass rushers in the NFL Stanley

1097
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 1: Cup Playoffs a couple of games sevens. Tonight, Toronto plays

1098
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: at Boston. Game seven of that opening round series seven

1099
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: o'clock faceoff in Boston out West at ten o'clock Tonight,

1100
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: San Jose home against Vegas. Game seven of that series

1101
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: tied at three wins apiece, and the Bisons continue their

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00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: series at Syracuse tonight. Last night, a pair of two

1103
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: out walks was their undoing in a seven to three

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00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: loss of the Syracuse Mets, first game of a four

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00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: game series in Syracuse. Tonight, they go first pitch at

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00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: six thirty five, the Bisons and the Syracuse Mets. And

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Speaker 1: that's the update from one Bill's drive. I'm not gonna

1108
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: go into again. How much that bothers Syracuse Mets instead

1109
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: of Syracuse Chiefs. I won't do it. Let it go.

1110
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Speaker 1: I have a let it go. Welcome back to the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve task your company from one Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: A lot of draft talk, as you might expect as

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00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: we get set for the draft a couple of days away,

1114
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: and we have with us right on the line, our

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00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: guest is going to talk more about the draft. He

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Speaker 1: is the Sports Illustrated Senior Editor MMQB Features editor, podcast

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00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: contributor for MMQB, Gary Gramling on the line with us, Gary,

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00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: John Murphy Steve Tasker up here in Buffalo. You just

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00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: reminded me a minute ago we met a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago. You were up here with Peter King in

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00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: a group of folks from MmpB. Right, we did, we did.

1122
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: We were talking about the controversy of watching the meaningless

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00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: women's soccer group game over the NBA Finals, which was

1124
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: not in the popular opinion. Listen, listen, I'm a good

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00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: friend of Peter King. You know I'm not. But listen,

1126
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: I was not going I was gonna qualifying it by

1127
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: saying I really like the guy. But let's face it

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00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: his tastes in sports, in digesting. The sports diet in

1129
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: America sometimes varies from the norm. I remember I was

1130
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: not I like, I like women's soccer, but I was

1131
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: looking at Gary and his group, thinking, somebody's gonna mouth

1132
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: words to me like help me. So he is he? So?

1133
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: Peter King, the renowned writer, turns the channel from the

1134
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: NBA Finals Cavalier Warriors to a Group three women's soccer game,

1135
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: women's national team soccer game. It wasn't even an elimination game.

1136
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: It's just and they were already through. It was like

1137
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: a meaning difference. So yeah, okay, so it was yes,

1138
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: if that's an elimination game, sure, let's have the conversation.

1139
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: The meaningless game though, versus versus the Lebron versus Warriors.

1140
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: From the verse on, it was not working out. Yeah, Gary,

1141
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: by the way, there was no conversation. Peter just up

1142
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: and did it, and so you could say, let's have

1143
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: the conversation. It appeared to me there was not going

1144
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: to be any conversation. Conversation was in Peter's head. We're

1145
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 1: not going to talk about women's soccer though. Week Gary,

1146
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the NFL Draft he'd done a

1147
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: great job. We had your your guy Andy Benoid on

1148
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 1: with us last week. You and Andy kind of teamed

1149
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: up and ranked the needs for each team. Right, That's

1150
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: that's ambitious, Gary, But you guys found needs for every

1151
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. It is ambitious. I mean, look,

1152
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: even I think we looked at we said the Falcons

1153
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: are the one roster that you'd look at it and

1154
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: say you don't have any drastic needs anywhere. But most

1155
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: teams look, you pick about it, you pick a part

1156
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: of roster. Or Patriots, even if Gronkowski came back, they

1157
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: have trouble at outside receiver. They have no edge rushers,

1158
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: they never had edge rushers there, and they still make

1159
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: a work. So it's a it's a fun process and

1160
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: it really does pref you pretty well for for draft

1161
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: on because as much as people say best player available,

1162
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: that's on how it works. Yeah, and you've got the Bills,

1163
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: you know obviously they need a big wide receiver. You've

1164
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: got everybody else listed as well. I was I'm wondering.

1165
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: Every draft is different, and the quality of players in

1166
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: the draft is different. The position strengths of the draft

1167
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: is different. But one thing that it's always interesting to

1168
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: me is do you anticipate a lot of movement at

1169
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: the top of this draft on Draft Day, teams trading in,

1170
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: trading out, or do you think because of the way

1171
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: this draft is laid out, with the quality of players deep,

1172
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: that they don't move. Yeah, you know, I think it's

1173
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: good to be in the top ten here. I think

1174
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: there is a pretty steep fall off whence he gets around. Uh,

1175
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, It'll probably be around twelve pick fifteen,

1176
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: and that happens most years, but I think it's more

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00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: pronounced this year. I think the guys are going to

1178
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: see taking in the twenties in the first round. There's

1179
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: there's just not a whole lot of separation between the

1180
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: guys you're gonna see even even late in Day two,

1181
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, the mid to late third round type guys.

1182
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: So you know it's it's gonna be tricky that the quarterbacks.

1183
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: No one's in love with the quarterbacks here, so that's

1184
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: usually who you'd see teams coming up to get. You know,

1185
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: is it going to be a buyer's market on getting

1186
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: some of these picks where you look at the trade

1187
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: value chart and you say, oh, this draft class, we're

1188
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: not going to give you quite what we would have

1189
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: given you in past years. As we talk about the

1190
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: draft needs for the Buffalo Bills, as Steve said, Gary,

1191
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: you and and evenoi kind of identified receiver, big receiver.

1192
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: What do you have in mind there? What do you

1193
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: see in the Bills roster now? And what are they

1194
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: what should they be looking for in this draft? I

1195
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: like what they did this offseason. I'm a big John

1196
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: Brown fan. I don't know if he's necessarily a long

1197
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: term solution there. I think that's why he gotten this

1198
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: sort of structured contract. A guy that might be a

1199
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: one year deal for John Brown, he might be gone

1200
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Speaker 1: by twenty twenty, especially if Robert Foster takes another step

1201
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: forward here. Cole Beasley very nice piece out of the slot.

1202
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: But when you look at it, uh, and I think

1203
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: they tip their hand a little bit with the Antonio

1204
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: Brown flirtation. When you look at it, they're looking for

1205
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: that number one tip the coverage type of receiver they

1206
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: don't have done on the roster right now. And and look,

1207
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: you have a young quarterback. That's that's what you're looking

1208
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for right now. And and h

1209
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: you know Brandon Bean, he built around Cam Newton down

1210
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: there in Caroline. It's part of that rasium obviously, And

1211
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: and you're gonna build around Josh Allen similarly to how

1212
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: you would have built around Cam Newton. And that means

1213
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: big targets, big catch radius guys. Josh Allen is even

1214
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: if he becomes more accurate, he's not going to be

1215
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: a precision accuracy guy at any point in his career.

1216
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: I think we can all accept that. But uh so

1217
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: you get him some big body guys that that was

1218
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: the idea with Kelman Benjamin and Kelvin Benjamin. Just I

1219
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a knee injury from a couple

1220
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: of years ago. He just doesn't play big anymore. He

1221
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: is big, he just doesn't play big. Yeah, there was

1222
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: a point you two made, you and Andy Benoit that

1223
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: I kind of I didn't think about in assessing the

1224
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: Bills draft approach. They went fairly hard after Antonio Brown,

1225
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: indicating how interested they are in filling that need. They

1226
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: didn't get him, obviously, they got a couple of other

1227
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: wide receivers in the free agent market, but that need

1228
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: still exists. And there's a guy you guys, kind of

1229
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: I think you put DK Metcalf together with the Bills

1230
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: in your mock draft, right I did. I had them

1231
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: trading down again. I think they're in a great spot

1232
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: story down right in front of Denver, Denver. That's a

1233
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: candidate for a quarterback, it's a candidate for a linebacker.

1234
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: I know linebackers a little bit devalued these days, but

1235
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: there's basically two in this raft. If you need twenty

1236
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: nineteen help that linebacker, it's Devin White or Steven Bush,

1237
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: or you're just not getting one. I love the fit

1238
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: with DK Metcalf in Buffalo because of the reason I said,

1239
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: on the field. But we did a big piece on him.

1240
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones was down there in Mississippi doing a piece

1241
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: on him for us in the last issue of Sports

1242
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: illust and it was supposed to be regional cover and

1243
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: then Tiger Woods blew that up. But that's okay. But

1244
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: h DK Metcalf just culturally, I think he slides into

1245
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: that Bill's locker room so easily. He's a he's humble.

1246
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: I know everyone saw the shirtless picture and they might

1247
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: have thoughts about him. He's a very humble kid. He's

1248
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: a he's from a very devout family. I think as

1249
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: as most of us know, faith is very important to

1250
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: to Sean McDermott's I think he slides in there so easily.

1251
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: And look, he's a he's a college town kid. And uh,

1252
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: you know, with all the with all the stupid, unfair

1253
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: stereotypes about the Western New York in the Buffalo area,

1254
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: the guys who end up going there and loving it

1255
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: always say, you know, oh, it felt just like a

1256
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: college town. I think DK fits so so cleanly on

1257
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: the field, in the locker room, in the community. I'd

1258
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: love to see him land there. Yeah. One of the

1259
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: things about this draft is you know that is you

1260
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: said that nobody really loves the quarterbacks in this draft,

1261
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: or at least there's not enough quarterbacks to go around

1262
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: for teams to be moving up and and reshaping the

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Speaker 1: top of the draft to get one. However, in your

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01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: latest mock draft you say that, and I don't know,

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01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: a tongue in cheek a little bit, but the Giants

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01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: may move up to get Kyler Murray because you know,

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Speaker 1: because all that, But how how likely is it that

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01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, even despite the fact that there's no you know,

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01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: there's no Eli Manning, there's no Peyton Manning in this

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01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: in this draft, there's no Cam Newton in this draft.

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Speaker 1: You know, how likely is it that just because they

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Speaker 1: are quarterback that they move the needle and somebody does

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01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: jump up to take and take a stretch for him.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's tough for two reasons. I think everyone

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01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: likes the quarterbacks that I think there are quarterbacks that

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01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of teams seem to like Daniel Jones,

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01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: or like the upside of a Drew Lock or like

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01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: the football iq of a Dwayne Haskins. Uh. Teams also, look,

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01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: they keep an eye on the next year's draft, and

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01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty group is uh, anything can happen next season,

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01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be better between two uh Nick Eason,

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01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: Jake from Justin hur Herbert out in Oregon. It's going

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01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: to be a better group next year. So I think

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01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: some of these teams, like a Miami who was probably

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01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 1: looking at saying, Okay, if we draft Dwayne Haskins, what's

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01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: the difference, We're gonna go uh five and eleven this

1287
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: year instead of four and twelve. They might just sit

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01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: this one out and say we'll look at our guy

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Speaker 1: next year. And you know, ride it out with Fitzpatrick

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01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: and in twenty nineteen, and it's really not going to

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01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: make a difference. So I just it's tough to picture

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01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: really anyone at this point aggressively coming up for a

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01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: for a top tick. I'd love to see the Giants

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01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: do it. That's why I put it in the podcraft,

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01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: just because everyone gets so carried away with you know,

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Speaker 1: this guy's this coach's style, this CM style, this time

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01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: last year. And I might be a little bit off

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01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: of the timing, but week of the draft, at least Monday,

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01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: and I think it might have been until Tuesday night,

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01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: everyone and I mean every reporter was saying the Browns

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01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: were going to take either Sam Darnold or Josh Allen

1302
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: and no one was reporting day for Mayfield until I

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01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: think it was Tuesday night before the draft. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: with Gary Grambling. He's senior editor sports illustrator. He's got

1305
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: a mock draft for the people up on SI dot com.

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01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 1: It's a great day. Let me get there for a second.

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01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: Why is this mock draft for the people? Gary? What

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01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: do you think It recognizes the fact that everyone is

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01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: desperately scrambling to get out of Round one collect picks,

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01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: if not for day two, collect twenty twenty picks at

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01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: this point. So that and I just like giving stupid

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01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: headlines to things that I write. So that's that's just

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Speaker 1: the way it goes. So One, you did mention a

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01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: minute ago that you had the Bills trading down out

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01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: of number nine and trading up to number nine to

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01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: get a quarterback is Washington. You've got them taking quarterback

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01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones from Duke at nine. Overall, I've never seen

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01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: him up the high What do you see there? And

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01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: what do you see the Redskins interest there? If there's

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Speaker 1: one thing we've learned over the past couple of weeks

1321
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: is NFL teams think a lot more highly of Daniel

1322
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: Jones than media and some of the media analysts. Do

1323
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, part of it's David Cutcliffe And obviously there's

1324
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: a Manning collect connection. Excuse me, well when it comes

1325
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: to Cutcliffe and Daniel Jones. But h teams love him.

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01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: I think he might be the second quarterback off the

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01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: board when it's all said and done here. Wow, really

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01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: ahead of Dwayne Haskins, ahead of Drew Locke, all those guys. Haskins,

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01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: Haskins is interesting. I don't know. You guys probably saw

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01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 1: the Ian Rappapoor report yesterday that the Raiders are maybe

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01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: have a surprise in store at number four. I think

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01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: they really like Dwayne Haskins, and I think they're not

1333
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: thrilled with Derek Carr. I wouldn't be shocked if if

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01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins went forth overall in this raft. But I

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01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: guess I'm really I'm a coward here. I'm covering all

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01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: my bases right. Well, that's what that's that's that time

1337
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: of year. I got well and yes, with us, with

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01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: us talking about this in the mock drafts, and and

1339
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: the access to all the information that social media and

1340
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: and highlight reels give us. Is that the only reason

1341
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: that the draft is such a phenomena. I think it's that.

1342
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: I think it's just the h the promise of you know, look,

1343
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: we could not only get a star player in the

1344
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: first round. Maybe we'll get winning round two, maybe round three,

1345
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get the greatest quarterback of all time in

1346
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: round six. I think it's it's just fun football. To me,

1347
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: was just it's always so fun because there are so

1348
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: many pieces and you're trying to figure out how to

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01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: assemble it so that these eleven guys can basically be

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01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: one organism and function together. And there's so many different

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01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: ways to go about it. I know people think that

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01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: the NFL game is a little more stagnant and and

1353
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: sort of vanilla than than maybe the college game, and yeah,

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01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: there's some truth to that, but there's so many different

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01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: different ways to approach it. And I think it's just

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01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: always fascinating the way teams build these rosters and the

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01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,439
Speaker 1: way they build some of these schemes. I think Gary

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01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: also it's fascinating the drama, sometimes manufactured drama, but a

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01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: lot of drama has been centered on Arizona the Cardinals

1360
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: and what would they do with Kyler Murray and Josh Rosen.

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01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: How do you see that sorting itself out? And do

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01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: you think the Cardinals have a plan. My guess is

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01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: and and I put this at eighty twenty at this

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01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: point because I I guess you wouldn't be surprised by

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01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: anything at this point. But I think it is gonna

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Speaker 1: be Kyler, and I think there's it's tough to peg

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Speaker 1: what the market is on Josh Rosen because no one's

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01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: really letting on. But I think ultimately they get something

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01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: like maybe it's a second round pick plus something for

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01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, So maybe a second and like a twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: third or fourth round pick something like that. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if anyone's given up a one, but I think

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01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: there are enough teams who are checking in with Josh Rosen,

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01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, you have five teams with mild interest,

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01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: maybe one or two it turns to do a bidding

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01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 1: war there. I don't think it comes up to a one,

1377
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: but I think they do move him, and I think

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01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: they do take Kyler. How much was Josh Rosen's stock

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Speaker 1: damage by his rookie year in Arizona. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's weird. Oh look, there are a lot

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01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: of guys who are there in Arizona who obviously got

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01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 1: like go at the end of the season. So it's

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: not people in the building necessarily trash talking him, but

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01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: there's just all these whispers that, uh, you know, he

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01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: didn't get along with guys in the locker room. He

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01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: wasn't a great locker room guy. He doesn't quite fit

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01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: their culture down there, and whatever it might be, and

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01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: that might just all be bs and and you got

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01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: to take it all with a grain of salt because

1390
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: it could just be people trying to drive down his price.

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01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: But uh, whatever was it. The on field performance really

1392
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: wasn't bad. I mean they were I mean, look, they

1393
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: got Leard Fitzgerald. Christian Kirk is an interesting young player.

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01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is just just an abomination down there,

1395
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: So I don't know what could have been expected out

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Speaker 1: of him. And you know, if it is Kyler Murray,

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01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Kyler is going to get get pounded that

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01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: that rookie year. One of the things I want to

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01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: ask you this. We started our show today talking about

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01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: this kind of week where you start seeing players get

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01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: sabotaged in the media, where you see gms saying the

1402
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: most outlandish, off the wall things maybe that have been

1403
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: contrary to all the rhetoric coming out of their building,

1404
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: all this smoke and misinformation that's going. What, let me

1405
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: ask you, what's the wildest story that you think has

1406
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: come out that you think is absolutely untrus there anything,

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01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: given all the stuff you've round we've been reading too,

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01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean, because there's a lot of stuff that's like, well,

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01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: you know, like the Raiders jumping up to take Kyler

1410
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: Murray at number one or the giants jumping up to

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01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: do the same or you know, what's the is? Does

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01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: any of it is any of it worth listening to?

1413
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: It's I mean, look, there's always some fire at the

1414
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: center of the smoke here. I'm trying to think with

1415
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: the craziest things, I don't think anything's been insane. I

1416
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: think some of the stuff that came out about Kyler

1417
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: after the combine was was unfair and at the very

1418
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: least highly exaggerated. I know there are some people who

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01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: have concerns about Kyler and he's not quite the alpha

1420
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: personality that a Baker Mayfield is, but uh, you know

1421
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: a lot of guys are like that. That's not really

1422
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: gonna prevent him from being a star in the league.

1423
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: Uh Yeah. Some of the stuff that just comes out

1424
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: and you look back at it over the years and

1425
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of ugly stuff. And look at the

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01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: MmpB when when we run and stuff like that. We

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01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: try to make it. I mean, if it's going to

1428
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: be a negative thing about a prospect, we had to

1429
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: have heard it overwhelmingly from many, many people who we

1430
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: can sort of look at and say, well, they don't

1431
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: have a dog in this fight. They don't have a

1432
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: reason to be talking trash about this guy. But you

1433
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: hear a lot of weird stuff about the weirdest stuff

1434
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: I actually can't say on air because we would never

1435
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: run with it. But there's the stuff you can't go.

1436
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: There's some wild stuff that comes through. One last thing.

1437
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with the draft. It's on

1438
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: the horizon. Why talk a little bit about and ask

1439
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: you why the NFL's franchise tag is on the way out? Perhaps?

1440
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: Or is it a big negotiating point for the CBA.

1441
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's on the way out. I don't

1442
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: think I don't think ownership ever gives it up. I

1443
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: think it's the silliest thing in the world. I think

1444
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: if you proposed it in twenty nineteen, if it hadn't

1445
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: existed before, you'd be laughed out of the room because

1446
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: the idea is just so ridiculous in a league that

1447
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: already has a hard salary cap. You know, it's one

1448
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: thing if if you're already about Dallas offering a billion

1449
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: dollars here at quarterback, you can't do it. You got

1450
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: a hard salary cap, so there's no need for it.

1451
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: But it's become such a little trick mechanism for ownership.

1452
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever going anywhere, as much as

1453
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: I hate that and as much as I hate the

1454
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 1: rookie salary cap. Quite frankly, it is a trick and

1455
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: it's missus. Don't you think that's franchise tank? Oh it's

1456
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was the John Elway rule.

1457
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be the failsafe for we're in

1458
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: a tough negotiation, someone's gonna try and poach our superstar player.

1459
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: And now it's just it's thrown around to everyone. I

1460
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: think it was a Wally Williams as he knew some

1461
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: tag the Guard Wally Williams back in like ninety eight

1462
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: or something, and that sort of like opened the door

1463
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: to Pandora's box. Here, I guess I would be opened

1464
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: Pandora's box that just has a regular lid on it.

1465
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: But that's uh, that's that's how this whole thing started.

1466
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 1: And here we are. Yeah, hey Gary, thanks for this.

1467
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: What are you watching on TV tonight? What's more propriately?

1468
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: What Peter King, what's you gonna let you watch on

1469
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: TV tonight? Oh my god, I'll have to check in

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Speaker 1: with Peter and uh and then let him select. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. And it was a

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Speaker 1: great What was that like three years ago? Rex was

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01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: still co right about three years ago? Three or three

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01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 1: or four years ago? That sounds right, Tyrod had just

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Speaker 1: won the starting job, if I if I remember correctly, Okay, misremembering? Gary,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for this. Keep up the good work. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: it anytime. Guys. My pleasure for Garry Grambling, his senior

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01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: editor Sports Illustrated dot com, features editor for MMQB dot

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01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: SI dot com, and podcast contributor for MMQB joining us

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01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: on the line. Kind of a fresh approach to the draft.

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 1: We needed that. He was before it was. He just

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01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: had everybody trading in and out. He had he had

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01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: trades going on in this twenty second pick of the

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Speaker 1: first round and stuff. It was fun to read because

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01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: he does have a great sense of humor and it's

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01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: and it's fun because it you know, sometimes we forget that,

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01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, nobody's votes on this stuff. It's just, you know,

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01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: it's just the way. You know, it's just your fanship

1489
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: and which which teams you love and which teams you don't,

1490
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: and what interest you and to have people write about

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01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: it in the tone that he does in this articles.

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01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: Very it was really pretty funny. I enjoyed reading. Yeah,

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01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: it was good. It's definitely worth reading. SI dot Com

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: Gary Gramling, Hey, we want to get back to our

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01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 1: topic of the day. What's the best case scenario for

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01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 1: the Bills on Thursday night? You can take it anyway

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01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: you want. Give us a call, we'll discuss eighth three

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01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five

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01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty, or you can send it in

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01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: via Twitter. We'll read some of the tweet's best case scenario.

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01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: What do you think of the Gang of eight? The

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01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: eight players that Steve and I have identified as one

1503
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: of them going to be a Buffalo Bills selection on

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01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: Thursday night. Let us know about that. I want to

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01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: remind you. Coming up just about three weeks away, it

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01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: is the annual Call the Courage Awards Breakfast. Frank Wright,

1507
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: Colt's head coach, puts it on the eighteenth annual Call

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01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,839
Speaker 1: the Courage Awards Breakfast coming up Saturday, May eighteenth, Hihatt

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01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: Regency Hotel in downtown Buffalo. Great breakfast with a special

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01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: award winner this year, Andy Dalton, the twenty nineteen called

1511
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: the Courage Award Dinner. You are welcome to come. You

1512
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: can get tickets at this number, five to five nine

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01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: eighteen hundred. Frank Ryche will be there. I'll be there.

1514
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 1: Steve would be there. They call the Courage Awards Breakfast.

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01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: Three weeks away. Saturday, May eighteen, Steve and I back

1516
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: with more one Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This

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01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Steve, I feel like we're busy today.

1518
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: We're halfway through the show. We've covered a lot of territory.

1519
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,560
Speaker 1: I feel like we're busy. I don't know. Yes, our

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01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: little gang of eight thing that we came up with,

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01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: I aint that's pretty fun. I think the guy who

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01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: gets one their name right should win a Bill's polo shirt.

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01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 1: You gotta do better than that. I'm thinking, like the

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01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: restaurant gifts are difficate or something. So here's what we did.

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01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: Steve and I sat down and said, right down, four

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01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: guys that you're throwing darts. Four guys that you think

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01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: the Bills, one of whom the Bills are gonna wind

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01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: up with with their first pick, not necessarily first round.

1529
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: Steve had four, I had four. We made sure that

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01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: the times when we had duplicates that somebody had to

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01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: change out of it. And let me tell you who

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01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: they are. Steve's four. He thrown these four darts. He

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01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: thinks the Bills are gonna wind up with either offensive

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01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 1: lineman Joe Williams from Alabama, offensive tackle Andre Dillard from

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01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: Washington see Washington's estate uh Iowa, tight end t J.

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01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: Hockinson Michigan, defensive end Vershawn gary My four, wide receiver

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01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf from Old Miss, defensive tackle Ed Oliver from Houston,

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01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: defensive end Montez Sweat Mississippi State, or defensive tackle Christian

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01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: Wilkins from Clemson. So that's the Gang of eight. We

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01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: may miss some you may see somebody we miss. You

1541
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: may like our picture, may not. Let us know. We've

1542
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: got phone lines wide open eight oh three five fifty

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01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: five fifty. You can send in a tweet on that.

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01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: Most likely Bill's first pick, according to me and Steve,

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01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: of those eight we gotta have the guy right of

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01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 1: those eight eight selections, maybe not. We don't gotta. Yeah,

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01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: that's the whole we don't gotta. That's the thing. So

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01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: I um, we're getting we're getting a lot of feedback

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01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: because people are you know, everybody's got their own list,

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01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: and they've got their own priorities. One guy's threatening to

1552
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,520
Speaker 1: jump off the wagon if if they don't take anything

1553
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: but from Big Bills Fan nineteen eighty five, the Bills

1554
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: might want to try to trade a player and the

1555
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,759
Speaker 1: ninth pick to draft Quinn and Williams to replace defensive

1556
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: tackle Kyle Williams. Well, it depends on what player you're

1557
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: talking about, you know. I mean, it's gonna take a

1558
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: really good player, and how I don't know how many

1559
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 1: of those you want to get rid of for a

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01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna replace Kyle Williams. I mean, yeah, I

1561
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: don't know. You gotta have a trade partner to do it.

1562
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: And what player you're talking about, that's there's gonna be

1563
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: a steep price to pay to get that high in

1564
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 1: this draft. You can't do it with just draft picks,

1565
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: or you won't have any draft picks left from this draft.

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01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: And can I say I don't feel I mean, I

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01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: get it. You can name a couple of candidates I'd

1568
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: be reluctant to start dealing away, you know, warm bodies

1569
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: to move up in the draft, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1570
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: they're trying to build a roster here. And I know

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01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: you got guys. Fans have guys, We have guys. Are

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01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: you thinking, well, that guy doesn't really factor into the

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01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: future plans. But if you're gonna move up, it's gonna

1574
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: have to be somebody good. Now, you're creating another vacancy.

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01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to fill that. That'd be the only

1576
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: reluctant I would have to create a player to try

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01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: to move up. All right, that's right. And here's the

1578
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 1: thing too, And we said this is the beginning of

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01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: the show. And this is always the problem with projecting trades.

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01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: When it sounds so good for you, it's probably not

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01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: good enough for the other team to take it. That's

1582
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: the simple fact of the matter. From Jack on the

1583
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: Twitter sheet. Best case scenario, they are able to trade

1584
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: back into the teams and acquire an extra second rounder

1585
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 1: with their first, they can still get an impact defensive lineman,

1586
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: maybe a guy like Wilkins, and in round two they

1587
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: can get a tight end like font nor Fant or Sternberger,

1588
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: or even a wide receiver like Hakim Butler or in

1589
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 1: Kiel Harry, I can't wait. So there's a guy who's

1590
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, you're right, and you heard our caller, I

1591
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 1: mean our guests just a minute ago, Gary Grambling. Once

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01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: you get out of the top ten of this draft,

1593
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: they're all kind of the same. There's a big drop off,

1594
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be able to get the whatever value

1595
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: pick you can just about anywhere you look. So the

1596
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: trick is to have more of those guys, more picks,

1597
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: and if you can get more of them and still

1598
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 1: get a guy you like at the top, like in

1599
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: the teens, you got a chance then that then it

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01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 1: could be a pretty good draft. A lot more draft

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01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,839
Speaker 1: talk coming up as the show moves along today, including

1602
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger from NFL Network, former offensive lineman in the league.

1603
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: He'll be joining us at two o'clock. Phone call here,

1604
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: Kevin and Hamburg has some thoughts. Kevin, go ahead, you're

1605
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: on the air, all right. I like Steve Pick from

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01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 1: Hockinson and Offense. I like Murse Wilkins from Defense. Okay, yeah,

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01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: Wilkins is the one that is a little bit of

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01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: a reach at number nine. He's he's projected like in

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01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: the mid teens. Are home, you know, after the fifteenth

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01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: second half of the first round. So take him at

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01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 1: number nine. Might be a little bit of a stretch,

1612
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: but he does have what we're talking about as being

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01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: one of those culture fit personalities. Really sharp guy, very

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01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: fast motor, and he's big, big enough, and he's been

1615
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: productive at the right level. So he's got a lot

1616
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: of things that make him attractive to a team like

1617
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: Buffalo who values intelligence and motor over some other things.

1618
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, Wilkins is a guy that I don't think

1619
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 1: he's a question. He'd be a stretch at nine. But

1620
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: if you want to get your guy, I get him.

1621
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: Call here from Mark in North Town. I want to

1622
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 1: hello Mark, go ahead, nice, Steve John your show all morning.

1623
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: I've been trying to call for three to four days.

1624
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm all in on Hockinson right, and I'll tell you

1625
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 1: the reason. One of my reasons is Grons been beating

1626
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: us up pretty good from New England for years, and

1627
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: I think it'd be nice to pay him back. I've

1628
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: heard he's a generational fight in and we need to

1629
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: get Josh Allen some weapons, and I think he'd be

1630
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: the perfect fit. You know, he've improves the running game

1631
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 1: and he's I've been watching highlights on him, so I'm

1632
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 1: all in on him, and I just wanted to get

1633
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: that to you guys. And I know you've been talking

1634
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 1: about him very long today, but i'd love to see

1635
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: him in the Bills uniform. Yeah, I don't think Mark,

1636
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: There's no question. I think a lot of Bills fans

1637
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: have a little bit of Scar Gronk scar tissue. You know,

1638
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 1: we've seen it for far too long, and we've seen

1639
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: how great a tight end can be. The Gronk was

1640
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: a generational player, and now saying Hackinson is a generational player,

1641
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that name that, you know, glowing a praise. Now,

1642
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: this guy's the best one out there. He's the best

1643
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: one in a while. I haven't heard the word generational

1644
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: used with him. But he is a three down NFL

1645
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 1: ready back to plug in, and you're gonna get let

1646
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 1: him on the field pretty quickly. I don't I don't

1647
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: think there's any there's no question that there's no tight

1648
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 1: end on this roster, even Tyler Croft, who they signed

1649
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati. I don't think there's any tight end on

1650
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: this roster that keep him off the field, even as

1651
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: a rookie in week one. He's pretty good but generational.

1652
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: That may be a stretch, but I hear where you're

1653
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 1: coming from. What else, Mark, Yeah, I just thought I

1654
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: just don't want to pass on the guy because he

1655
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: did pass on my Homes and we traded to pick Away,

1656
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 1: like you said, and we Well, Hawkins is never gonna

1657
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 1: be an MVP. I'll say that right now. No, but

1658
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: we also passed on Wilson from Seattle because he was

1659
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 1: too small. But you gotta take I'm really happy with

1660
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: Josh Ellen. I'm all in on him. School. You know what,

1661
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: You're not gonna, Mark, You're not gonna bring up the

1662
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: fact that we passed on Tom Brady. I mean, everybody

1663
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 1: passes on everybody, everybody. I mean, that's yeah, I mean

1664
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: I get it. If you think Hockinson is all of that. Yeah,

1665
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: and if the Bills agree with you, you can bet

1666
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: that they will take him if he's available. But the

1667
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 1: simple fact that matters he's playing tight end. He's not

1668
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: playing quarterback. So to say, you know, we passed on Mahomes,

1669
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: who passed on Russell Wilson, we passed on Tom Brady. Um,

1670
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 1: that's not the same thing. Yeah, can I say that, Mark?

1671
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling Mark by the way, and um, I

1672
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: get it. I get people. A lot of people like

1673
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: t J. Hockinson. I like him a lot too. I

1674
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 1: think you'd be a fine draft pick. But you can't

1675
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,879
Speaker 1: go into a draft trying to solve some historical grievance,

1676
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: like we've never had a good tight end. Uh, the

1677
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: Patriots have beat us up bad with their tight end. Yeah, um,

1678
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: we passed on these other guys. We can't miss this guy.

1679
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: That's just not the approach. That's not the way to

1680
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: draft guys. It's not you're not trying to resolve some

1681
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,560
Speaker 1: decades long grievance, whether it's no tight end or Gronkowski

1682
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: or we miss on other picks. That's that's really the

1683
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: wrong approach I think to take. You got to keep

1684
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: it focused on your team. Yeah, it's your team this year,

1685
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and going forward. Even if there is a

1686
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: generational player out there, it doesn't make sense, not always.

1687
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes it does, but not always. It doesn't always make

1688
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: sense to do and pull out all the stops to

1689
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: get that generational player. A generational guard is not the

1690
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: same as a generational quarterback. A generational tight end is

1691
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: not the same as a generational defensive tackle. Your team

1692
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: may be at a point in history where that generational

1693
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: player will not be as big of an impact player

1694
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 1: on your team as he would be on a different team.

1695
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 1: And name the scenario you want, no question if If

1696
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: he's a generational player and he's available at that spot

1697
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: at tight end in this draft where the Bills are

1698
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: in history, I think you take him, no question about it,

1699
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 1: and nobody and we've said it. There's a ton of

1700
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: guys that this in this draft that are going to

1701
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 1: be available there that there are gonna be no issues taken.

1702
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,799
Speaker 1: Whether it's an off one of the offensive tackles, defensive tackles,

1703
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 1: tight end, or wide receiver. There's some guys there that

1704
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 1: are going to be very easy to justify and everybody's

1705
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: gonna be very happy and see the reasoning behind it.

1706
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: Hockinson is one of those. And that's that's about as

1707
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: far as I'm willing to go. Yeah, don't, but don't try.

1708
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: My point is, don't try to solve decades old grievances

1709
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: as far as who had the best sight end or

1710
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 1: who how did we pass on used to You can

1711
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: out of approach a draft like that. You try to

1712
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 1: win you try to get good players so you can win. Right, Hey,

1713
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: this is interesting. Steve just came in. Adam Schefter put

1714
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: this out there. The Seattle Seahawks we talked about yesterday

1715
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: with Frank Clark, defensive end, former first round pick. Seahawks

1716
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 1: have agreed to trade their franchise player, Frank Clark to

1717
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs for a twenty nineteen first round pick,

1718
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty second round pick, and an exchange of

1719
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,600
Speaker 1: third round picks this year. Um, Frank Clark goes to

1720
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: Kansas City. He still has to hammer out a deal

1721
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. Yeah, but if he does, that deal

1722
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: goes through, and that's a big move. That is that's

1723
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: big now that they've been rumblings and I even heard,

1724
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, the Bills connected to it as well. Uh,

1725
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get a guy like Frank, Yes,

1726
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean who everybody was inquiring about what it was

1727
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: gonna take to get him, and the Chiefs with a hide. Uh.

1728
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are picking uh, I can't remember what they're picking,

1729
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: all right, twenty seventh this year, but their first rounder

1730
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, right, but they're not giving up this

1731
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 1: year's first They're giving up next year's first No, no,

1732
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: that's right, this year's first, twenty ninth, next year's second rounder,

1733
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 1: and then a swap of mid rounders. Uh, this year

1734
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: or next year? It doesn't say which. And of course

1735
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have got a hammer out a deal with

1736
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: Clark to get it done. So they took a first

1737
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: rounder and a second rounder and a swap of mid

1738
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: round picks to get Clark out of Seattle. The twenty

1739
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: ninth pick is what is what they gave up. Do

1740
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: you think the Bills could have made it happen for

1741
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: their number nine pick overall? Yeah, but I wouldn't do it.

1742
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't either. I don't know if i'd do it

1743
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: either number nine overall and in a second round next year.

1744
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 1: And no, I don't think I need that. Chiefs have

1745
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: a need. I you know, obviously they lost Houston. Yeah,

1746
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: they lost some guys. They lost d Ford right when

1747
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: we lost Kyle Williams. I mean, I get it now, Listen,

1748
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: he is a great player. Don't kid yourself. I mean

1749
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a good move and he's a great player.

1750
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: But I don't know right at this point, I don't

1751
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: know how that I don't know if the boy, I

1752
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 1: don't know if we could fit him under the He

1753
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: probably could fit him under their cat. But that would Yeah,

1754
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: that's chief, said Chris Jones. Alex Hooker for lining up

1755
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: to play defensive end. So you can see where they

1756
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: would feel a need there. And they got a good one.

1757
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: Frank Clark, there's a good one. But that's a Steve

1758
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: Price first round here this year, twenty ninth in the

1759
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: first round, second round and next year and flipping the

1760
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 1: third round picks. And you look at the Seahawks, it's

1761
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: a pretty good deal for them too. And this is

1762
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: what we're always talking about. You gotta have a partner,

1763
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: because they get the first rounder this year, an extra

1764
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: first rounder this year, the twenty twenty second rounder next year,

1765
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: and a swap of mid rounders, and they don't have

1766
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: to go through the mud of getting this guy signed

1767
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: to a big, long term deal. He was franchise, so

1768
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: they were going to get a hit on their cap

1769
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: and a one year deal. So they get out of

1770
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 1: a guy who's unhappy with this. Jill can't get a

1771
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 1: deal done, and they get all these draft picks and

1772
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 1: get him off their bucks. And they don't want to

1773
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: pay him that they don't want to pay him that much. Okay,

1774
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: all right, a break. When we come back more on this.

1775
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: We want to know about your best case scenario for

1776
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: the Bills on Thursday Night, Round one, and we want

1777
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: to know what you think of our gang of eight,

1778
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: the eight guys that we think the Bills will end

1779
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 1: up with one of them. We'll review all that and

1780
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: talk some more with you when we come back. One

1781
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1782
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: I'm in in the nicest way. Welcome back, John Murphy,

1783
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Still battling the awards we had at ten

1784
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 1: thirty this morning. Nothing important, folks, but it's not as

1785
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: happy as it looks on screen. Sometimes it was all right,

1786
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 1: there's this palpable tension. Did we just laugh about it?

1787
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: Best case scenario for the Bills Thursday Night, Round one,

1788
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: Thursday night, what do you think? I call here Brian

1789
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 1: and Buffalo. Hello, Brian, you're on the air, Hey Murph.

1790
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: I would say that best case scenario, we end up

1791
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: with Hockinson. My only question about that is, you know,

1792
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen proves he thrives in in an empty set,

1793
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,600
Speaker 1: So you know last year, you know, we went to

1794
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,839
Speaker 1: eleven personnel a little bit, but with signing Tyler Croft,

1795
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 1: how are we going to go to a twenty one

1796
01:25:55,880 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 1: personnel twenty two personnel? Um, I'm not really sure about that.

1797
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 1: Um my first round take on it, and then I

1798
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: have a second round take. So let to come out

1799
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: of the first round take. But I think there's three

1800
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: scenarios I could I could see the the Bill's trading

1801
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: up the four with the Raiders and taking nick Poles.

1802
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: And what I gotta give up to get the four? Well,

1803
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: I think you obviously give up nine. Ye give up.

1804
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: I think you give up two, and I think I

1805
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 1: think that's enough. Nine and two would be enough. But

1806
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: if that's enough, I'd have to wrap my mind around that.

1807
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: Um yeah, okay, all right, I'll listen, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah.

1808
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 1: So I think if we stay at nine Hockinsons there,

1809
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 1: we take nine Hockinson at nine Hockinson is not there.

1810
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: I see us trading back because I could see the

1811
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: Lions a pickle four ticking out. Say we traded back, Um,

1812
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: depending on where it is where we trade back. I

1813
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: see personally, I see Jonah Williams falling because of his

1814
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 1: height and arm length. He's not an ideal sized tackle.

1815
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: Um the Washington State tackle Steve mentioned I'm not too

1816
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 1: familiar of, but that would be my first round predictions.

1817
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: I guess, okay, yeah, the the um Jonah Williams. It's

1818
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: his arm His arm length is uh is what he's

1819
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 1: been criticized for. But his height. He's six four and

1820
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 1: a half. He's plenty tall enough, so he's he's tall enough,

1821
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: but his arms are I don't know. It makes it

1822
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: sound like the guy is, you know, a gargoyle or something.

1823
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: His arms aren't like but he's you know, he's got

1824
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,719
Speaker 1: I guess he's got normal arms instead of NFL left

1825
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: tackle arms. But he does have a lot of other things.

1826
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 1: He's athletic enough, he moves, he's good and dry, he's

1827
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: good at pass blocking, run blocking. He's dominant at times.

1828
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: So he is he is a guy who is also

1829
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 1: a culture fit as well. So yeah, all that stuff

1830
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: is on the table. I don't know about being able

1831
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 1: to trade up for Nick Bosa, and I don't know

1832
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: if you trade up for Nick Bosa or Quinnon Williams either.

1833
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,600
Speaker 1: Some people have Quinnon Williams as being a more productive

1834
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: pro for the position. Now, Quinn and Williams is not

1835
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,600
Speaker 1: an edge rusher or a pass rusher like Bosa, but

1836
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 1: he's a run stuffer and pass rusher from the interior slot.

1837
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: And he's a bigger body. So and a lot of

1838
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: people think Quinn and Williams is going to be a

1839
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 1: more dominant player at his position than Nick Bosa is

1840
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: going to be at his position. Be that as it may.

1841
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: They're different positions, so it's hard to compare. So I

1842
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna if given him, you're one

1843
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 1: and two to get the one guy is enough because

1844
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: once you do, you don't pick until pick number seventy

1845
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: four this draft, so you have nothing else to trade

1846
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: up for or up with, so you're done until the

1847
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 1: third round. No fun until late Friday night. That's right,

1848
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 1: I'm looking for fun. Let's go to a market and Buffalo.

1849
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: I am kind of It's gonna be fun, Yeah, Mark

1850
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: and Buffalo, go ahead, Mark, Hey, move Steve Hey, go ahead. Mark.

1851
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just look at it as as

1852
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: series as what kind of strategies they're going to employ,

1853
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 1: and knowing what they've done so far in free agency

1854
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: and being what we're being told the strength of this

1855
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 1: draft is if you're in a position to draft an

1856
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 1: elite piece or talented talented guy. You gotta remember, talented

1857
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: guys help you win the super Bowl and they're the

1858
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 1: most driving force typically and they make people around around

1859
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: you better. So to me, it's real simple. You either

1860
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 1: take a left tackle who's gonna instantaneously make Josh Allen better,

1861
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 1: or you take an interior defensive lineman who is also

1862
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 1: going to instantly make is better. And then if you

1863
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to move up in the draft, maybe

1864
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 1: into late in the first round, or if you have

1865
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: to sit tight at your second pick, look for that

1866
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver. And if they do something like that, then

1867
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 1: that tells me that they're really happy and competent in

1868
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: their free agent class. But if they're still reaching for guys,

1869
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,560
Speaker 1: then they're going to start trading down. And you know,

1870
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: even though they might get a good player, I don't

1871
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 1: the chances of them getting somebody late in the first

1872
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: round or early in the second that is truly an

1873
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 1: elite talent that makes people around them better are a

1874
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 1: little bit more slim than than where they are right now.

1875
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 1: So Mark, you're thinking that if they trade backwards. You

1876
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: think it's kind of raising the white flag a little bit. Yeah,

1877
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 1: I really do. I mean, if they really like these

1878
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 1: offensive linemen and they can add an elite offensive linemen

1879
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 1: to this group, maybe they're on the verge of making

1880
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: a dominant offensive line or another scenario. You know, if

1881
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 1: you go to the defensive line way, you know you

1882
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Speaker 1: got a young middle linebacker who you put an elite

1883
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: player in front of him, you may be solidifying the

1884
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Speaker 1: middle of your defense for the next ten twelve years. No, Mark,

1885
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Speaker 1: I gotta say, I agree. I never phrase it the

1886
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Speaker 1: way you just did and not finding fault, but I

1887
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Speaker 1: kind of agree with you. I want to see him

1888
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Speaker 1: use that ninth pick. I want to see a top

1889
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 1: ten pick added to this fairly talented roster. I want

1890
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Speaker 1: to see it get a big injection of talent, which

1891
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Speaker 1: would be a top ten pick at a variety of

1892
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Speaker 1: different positions. That they have volume. They have ten picks already,

1893
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Speaker 1: most of them in the back end of the draft,

1894
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: but they have volume. But I'd like to see an

1895
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: injection of real talent, real certified BONIFID first class Blue

1896
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Speaker 1: Ribbon talent, which you can get with a top ten pick,

1897
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Speaker 1: as you said on the offensive line, on the defensive

1898
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,560
Speaker 1: line in particular, and I'd like to see him employ that.

1899
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: That would be my goal. And we just had Gray

1900
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: Grambling from Sports Illustrated on and he said, this draft,

1901
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Speaker 1: after you get out of the top twelve or thirteen

1902
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 1: players in this draft, there is a significant drop off.

1903
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna do it, you gotta be up there.

1904
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 1: And the Bills are at number nine, and from our

1905
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,799
Speaker 1: numbers in our little draft game that we played today,

1906
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a handful of quality players available at

1907
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Speaker 1: number nine. So I'm kind of with you to trade

1908
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,560
Speaker 1: up and get one of the truly elite guys, the

1909
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 1: guys that are almost can't miss, Okay, But I don't

1910
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 1: want to pay that price because I think they're gonna

1911
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Speaker 1: get a really solid, good player, maybe not elite, maybe

1912
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Speaker 1: not dominant. They're going to get a difference maker at

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Speaker 1: number nine. And I think you hang in there and

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Speaker 1: take one of those guys, because you you know, let's

1915
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Speaker 1: face it, this is a team that wants to take

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Speaker 1: another step forward. And I don't have a problem whether

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Speaker 1: it's an offensive lineman or a defensive tackle, or a

1918
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Speaker 1: tight end or or wide receiver. I don't think I

1919
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Speaker 1: would think it's going to be maybe one of those

1920
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Speaker 1: things defensive tackle, defensive end, offensive tackle, or wide receiver.

1921
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 1: That's five positions. There's gonna be a player there one

1922
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: of those five spots that's gonna be really, really good,

1923
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,680
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be really good for more than a

1924
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Speaker 1: handful of years. Hey, we're gonna take a break. We

1925
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Speaker 1: got Brian Balding or standing by to join us when

1926
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 1: we come back from the NFL Network. We'll take more

1927
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: of your phone calls and your thoughts on the best

1928
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 1: case scenario for the Bills in the first round of

1929
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: the draft. I got something for our listeners to think about. See,

1930
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Speaker 1: we talked about this this morning before the show. James Palmer,

1931
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 1: NFL Network tweeted this out today and this is a

1932
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Speaker 1: stump your friends. This is a good Twitter question. If

1933
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is selected in the first round, he will

1934
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Speaker 1: be the first athlete to ever be a first round

1935
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Speaker 1: pick in both the Major League Baseball and the NFL drafts.

1936
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Speaker 1: Three others came pretty close, though, Which three I'll give

1937
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 1: you a clue. They're all three NFL stars. Connor Murray

1938
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 1: would be the first ever to be chosen in the

1939
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: first round of the Major League Baseball Draft in the

1940
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Speaker 1: NFL draft, but three other NFL players came pretty close.

1941
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 1: Let us know if you have that answer, shoot it

1942
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Speaker 1: in by a Twitter or give us a call. Steve

1943
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Speaker 1: and I coming back. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive.

1944
01:33:47,920 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio, Hills Radio Sports. YEP Day

1945
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: comes from One Bill's Drive. Another day of the offseason

1946
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: conditioning program for the players. Here about fifty five sixty

1947
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 1: players here for workouts voluntarily over the rest of this

1948
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: week until Thursday. And they did their thing this morning.

1949
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Speaker 1: Is they do a trade in the NFL, A pretty

1950
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 1: good sized trade. Seattle Seahawks have traded away defensive end

1951
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: Frank Clark, their franchise player tagged him a couple of

1952
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: weeks ago. He gets traded to the Kansas City Chiefs

1953
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 1: for a first round pick this year, Kansas City's first

1954
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 1: round pick twenty ninth overall, a second round pick next

1955
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: year from Kansas City, and they'll flip third round picks

1956
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 1: this year. That trade not yet confirmed by either side,

1957
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 1: but it is reported by NFL Network and by ESPN.

1958
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 1: Frank Clark, defensive end who was in the middle of

1959
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: a contractor shoot with Seattle goes to Kansas City for

1960
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: a first rounder this year and a second rounder next year.

1961
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals and five other teams open their voluntary

1962
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,759
Speaker 1: mini camps at eight teams with brand new head coaches

1963
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: now in the next phase of their offseason conditioning. The

1964
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: Cardinals with Cliff Kingsbury, the Bengals with new head coach

1965
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, the Browns with new head coach Freddy Kitchens,

1966
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 1: Green Bay with Matt Lafleur, and the Gents with Adam Gase.

1967
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay opens a three day venter in minicamp today

1968
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 1: as well. They run this week leading into the Draft.

1969
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: In the draft, there's news about Rashaan Gary, the Michigan

1970
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. He has a shoulder that's been flagged by

1971
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 1: various NFL medical departments. The NFL Network reports that the

1972
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 1: injury is a laboral tear in his shoulder from college.

1973
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 1: Most believe he can play this season, then possibly have

1974
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 1: surgery afterwards. The injury would likely have to be managed

1975
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: or harnessed throughout this rookie season, very similar, they say,

1976
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 1: to the injuries suffered by the Bills Shack Lawson, a

1977
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and the Los Angeles Chargers have

1978
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 1: picked up the fifth year option on Joey Vosa, the

1979
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: pass rush specialist keeps him in Powder Blue for the

1980
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 1: Chargers through the twenty twenty season. A couple of games

1981
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 1: sevens in the Stanley Cup playoffs tonight, one of them

1982
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 1: in Boston. The Leafs and the Bruins play Game seven

1983
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 1: seven o'clock face off tonight in Boston, and in late

1984
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,719
Speaker 1: tonight ten o'clock the San Jose Sharks home against Vegas

1985
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 1: Game seven of that series, and the Bisons continue their

1986
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: series at Syracuse tonight. First pitch, six thirty five. That's

1987
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 1: the update from One Bills Live. John Murphy, Steve Tasker

1988
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 1: coming to you. We'll have the answer for that little

1989
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 1: trivia challenge I did before the top of the hour

1990
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Speaker 1: in a moment, but right now we want to get

1991
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Speaker 1: to the hotline because joining us on the line a

1992
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Speaker 1: good friend of the show, NFL network analysts. He played

1993
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 1: eleven seasons in the NFL, including a cup of coffee

1994
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 1: here with the Buffalo Bills. He does bald these breakdowns

1995
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 1: on NFL dot Com. Great video breakdowns of some of

1996
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 1: these draft prospects. Happy to have Brian Balding around the

1997
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,640
Speaker 1: show with us Brian, John Murphy and Steve Tasker here

1998
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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Are you still in La? I know you're

1999
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 1: doing a lot of work on the network out there

2000
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: this week, right. I've been out there for the last

2001
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 1: six weeks, Murpha. I'm heading back out tomorrow, so we'll

2002
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 1: be doing a lot of shows from out there. Kind

2003
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 1: of getting the day started on Thursday and Friday and Saturday,

2004
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 1: and they kind of throwing to Nashville with everybody that's there. Yeah,

2005
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 1: just like everybody else. You're neck deep in the draft,

2006
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 1: right and you're headed to Nashville. How long are you

2007
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 1: gonna be in Nashville for all three days of the

2008
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,560
Speaker 1: draft or you're gonna be there a day on either end? No,

2009
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: I'm actually just gonna be in La Steve. So we've

2010
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 1: got all the other you know, Jeremiah and everybody else,

2011
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 1: Retis and all those guys will be in Nashville. So

2012
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 1: they got somebody's got to man the mother ship there

2013
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. You're the guy. He's here. Yeah, Hey,

2014
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 1: brand what do you think of the trade? Seattle sends

2015
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 1: away Frank Clark to Kansas City and gets their first

2016
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Speaker 1: rounder and a second rounder. What do you make of

2017
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Speaker 1: that trade? Well, I think it's a good trade. I mean,

2018
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 1: they were gonna have to make a decision on Frank,

2019
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 1: you know. I mean they just paid Russell Wilson thirty

2020
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year. It's gonna make it difficult,

2021
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, to sign other guys as a draft deep

2022
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 1: in defensive linement. I'm sure that Seattle looks like they

2023
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: can restock with, you know, a bunch of new picks

2024
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 1: and high picks. And you know, Kansas City is going

2025
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 1: to get an elite player to replace Justine Houston, a

2026
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 1: d Ford who left in free agency. So I think

2027
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: it's a trade that actually benefits both teams right now.

2028
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: And we were talking during the break, Steph and I

2029
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 1: how about And I guess it's obvious, but by the

2030
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 1: Chiefs are clearly in wind now mode, aren't they. They

2031
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,600
Speaker 1: probably see that window just good for another year or

2032
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 1: two at this point. What do you think? What do

2033
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 1: you make of it? Well, I mean got the league MVP,

2034
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 1: right and you know, and so Patrick Mahomes still has

2035
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 1: three years left on his rookie deal. I think, you know,

2036
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:09,560
Speaker 1: you try and do everything you can to you know,

2037
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 1: to win as many games, give yourself the best chance

2038
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 1: possible to make a run. You know, when you got

2039
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 1: a guy on a rookie deal, that's that level of

2040
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 1: a player, So you know, you gotta they're gonna have

2041
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 1: end up having to pay him, you know, in the

2042
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 1: next year a year after that, so they might as

2043
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 1: well try and you know, be as competitive as they come.

2044
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 1: They brought in the Steve Spagnola to take over the defense.

2045
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 1: He's a four man front defensive coordinator. And you get

2046
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,680
Speaker 1: a guy like Frank Clark. I mean, it's a heck

2047
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,759
Speaker 1: of a piece, you know, to plug into that defense

2048
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 1: right now. Man. It leads with the Seattle Seahawks with

2049
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 1: the twenty first pick in the draft, which they had

2050
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 1: to begin with, and they pick up Kansas City's twenty

2051
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: ninth pick of the drafts. They've got two first round

2052
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: picks this year in return, plus a next year they

2053
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: get an extra second round draft pick, and then they

2054
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 1: swap thirds in next year's draft as well. So it's

2055
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 1: or maybe in this draft year's draft. That's a little

2056
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 1: unclear to me right at this point. But Settle gets

2057
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 1: a chance to really get a guy off their books

2058
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 1: and create that leaves them with less drama on their

2059
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 1: roster but trying to sign a really elite player, but

2060
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:10,719
Speaker 1: it gives them a chance to add to their roster

2061
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 1: in a draft. And let's talk about let's jump right

2062
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 1: into that, Baldy. This draft is pretty deep in defensive lineman,

2063
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 1: particularly at the end of the first round. Well, it's

2064
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 1: the deep as I can remember. I mean, we're gonna

2065
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 1: see eight, probably eight of the first ten players on

2066
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Draft. They're gonna be defensive players. And it's

2067
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 1: about as deep and strong a draft on defensive lineman,

2068
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 1: whether it's tackles, ends, outside pass rushers. I mean, there's

2069
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 1: a lot to like about this group. And so whether

2070
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 1: you're picking at twenty one or twenty nine, if that's

2071
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 1: what you're looking to add to your roster, you're gonna

2072
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 1: have good options. A lot of them are going to

2073
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:51,759
Speaker 1: go right at the very top. Nick Bows and Quinny Williams,

2074
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:53,600
Speaker 1: they're going to go real early in this draft, and

2075
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 1: they should. They're very, very good players, and I think

2076
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna be good pros. But you know, they got

2077
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,560
Speaker 1: too great linebacker in this draft. And Devin White and

2078
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 1: Devin Bush, and I mean there were some good middle

2079
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 1: linebackers drafted last year. You've got one as well, But

2080
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of them that could run four

2081
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 1: four yet. And that's what these guys can run. So

2082
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you're gonna get I mean, Seattle if

2083
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,600
Speaker 1: they want to restock that position, and they've lost a

2084
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 1: lot of guys into retirement and now free agency over

2085
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 1: the last two years. I mean, they're gonna get a

2086
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 1: great opportunity to get some good young players. They want

2087
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 1: to know about some of these defensive line prospects. It's

2088
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 1: you've looked at on video, Brian, including the guy that

2089
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 1: many people had as a projected first rounder then came

2090
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 1: up with a knee injury, Jeffrey Simmons from Mississippi State.

2091
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 1: Where does that knee injury put him? But still a

2092
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 1: first rounder, maybe back into the first round. What do

2093
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah, I think you're right, Murphy. I mean,

2094
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a first rounder. I mean,

2095
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 1: I think he's a top five player in this draft

2096
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 1: if he's healthy. I mean, he's just a physically dominant player.

2097
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm good friends with his defensive line coach at Mississippi State,

2098
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. A long time Brian Bakers. Now

2099
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 1: he's now with Nick at Alabama, but just talking to him,

2100
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 1: what kind of player he was to coach? Just country strong,

2101
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,679
Speaker 1: I mean physically just manhandles people at the line of scrimmage.

2102
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 1: But he also stayed in college this year because he

2103
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 1: wanted to work on his quick escapes where he didn't

2104
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 1: have to muscle guys every every down, and he did

2105
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 1: that this year. I thought he was I mean, like

2106
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: I said, I think he's a top five player in

2107
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 1: this draft. You're probably gonna have to red shirt him

2108
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 1: through October. You probably get him the second half of

2109
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,720
Speaker 1: the season next year, and I think you'll get a

2110
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 1: guy that could come in and you know, play well

2111
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 1: right away. But he is He is something to watch

2112
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 1: any Mississippi State game. I don't care if it's Kansas

2113
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 1: State or LSU or Alabama. You watch him play against

2114
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 1: really good offensive lineman and he's the better of him

2115
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 1: on him is almost every play every game. So it

2116
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 1: sounds like to me that if and we've seen this

2117
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 1: in past draft, and I've been asking all our guests this,

2118
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 1: it's become vogue for teams to move around around the

2119
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 1: top of the draft, to try to move up or

2120
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 1: move down. We saw a bunch of it last year.

2121
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 1: Of course it was a quarterback driven draft. You don't

2122
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 1: think any movement's going to happen to the top of

2123
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 1: this draft because of defense players, because there's so many

2124
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 1: good ones that are going to be available. If there's

2125
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 1: going to be a movement at the top of this draft,

2126
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 1: it's going to be about quarterbacks or some other kind

2127
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,879
Speaker 1: of player. Correct. I think so, Steve. I mean, typically,

2128
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 1: you know, movement you trade up to target a player,

2129
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 1: and so especially in the top ten. I mean, you know,

2130
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 1: you look at you know, the trade that kensa City

2131
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:21,719
Speaker 1: made two years ago for Patrick Mahomes, or what Houston

2132
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:25,879
Speaker 1: did for Shaun Watson, you know, or even what Chicago

2133
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 1: and San Francisco did two years ago from Mitch Drubisky.

2134
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 1: I mean, those trades are all for quarterbacks, and so

2135
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 1: that may still happen in this draft. But I just

2136
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 1: think that because there's so much depth at defensive line

2137
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 1: that I don't think you have to, you know, go

2138
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:43,560
Speaker 1: target one of these guys. I mean, I think you

2139
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 1: can wait, if you're the Raiders, if you want to

2140
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: wait it for and you know, pick up a defensive linement.

2141
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 1: I think they'll, you know, they're gonna have their their

2142
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 1: their pick of a lot of good players there if

2143
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 1: they just stay right here. If that's what they decide

2144
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 1: to do. The Jets forty nine ers that are all

2145
01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 1: looking for defensive linement, everybody is I mean that you

2146
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 1: just stay on pat, I think you could get a

2147
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 1: good player. Now, If a good player, I don't know,

2148
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,679
Speaker 1: let's say at Oliver or Rashan Gary. You know, something

2149
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 1: happens and they start to drop, then I could see,

2150
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, somebody from the back of the draft possibly

2151
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 1: trading up to go get you know, maybe perhaps one

2152
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 1: of those two players, or if one of those linebackers

2153
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: White of Bush drops, I could see a team, you know,

2154
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,680
Speaker 1: trading up to go get themselves to Mica Linebacker the

2155
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 1: Future with NFL Network analysts Gray and Baldinger, who's doing

2156
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 1: work all this week as the NFL Network covers the draft.

2157
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 1: Here's the defensive lineman that we have not talked about

2158
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 1: on this show, but I know you've made note of him.

2159
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 1: He's considered an under the radar prospect, a Jersey guy

2160
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: from Temple University. Michael Dogby. What do you know about

2161
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 1: him and what are his prospects. What do you think

2162
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:44,639
Speaker 1: bran Well. He's been well coached by both Matt Rule

2163
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 1: who's now Baylor, and Jeff Collins who's now at Georgia Tech.

2164
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 1: He wore a single digit number number nine this year

2165
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 1: and they gave out single digits to that, you know,

2166
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 1: nine best players on the team, and Dogby got one

2167
01:43:57,760 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 1: of those this year. He's proud of it. He's very strong.

2168
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 1: He've been press thirty four times to twenty five. I

2169
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 1: think you can play outside, you know, in a four

2170
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 1: three defense. I think you could play inside at defensive tackle.

2171
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 1: He had a lot of good visits with the Eagles

2172
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: and other teams around this league as a very determined

2173
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:17,760
Speaker 1: player and a player that's got good flexibility. I mean,

2174
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:19,600
Speaker 1: I think you can get Mike Dogbe probably in the

2175
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 1: third or fourth round, but I think you're gonna get

2176
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 1: a really good player that's hungry, that you're never gonna

2177
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 1: have to worry about, that's just gonna work as long

2178
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 1: as the day is long. I mean, I think you're

2179
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 1: going to get a good prospect that's just going to

2180
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 1: improve at the NFL level. Well Ball he played in

2181
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 1: the league as an offensive lineman for a long time.

2182
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the guys at the top of this draft.

2183
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 1: Most of the time when you're talking about college guys

2184
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 1: coming out and play an NFL, most of them play

2185
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 1: left tackle and they're gonna move from there. But what

2186
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 1: do you see at the top of this draft and

2187
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I see a lot of good players, Steve,

2188
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that I see a dominant player. I

2189
01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 1: think a guy like Juwan Taylor at Florida's gonna write

2190
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:01,679
Speaker 1: down tackles. Played a little left tackle there. He looks

2191
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:04,639
Speaker 1: like he's to me, he's the best of all of them.

2192
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you could plug and play him

2193
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 1: at right tackle and you're gonna get a possible Pro

2194
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 1: Bowl player. Greg Little at Mississippi, you know, was the

2195
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 1: left tackle for uh you know at Allen Texas, uh

2196
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, when they were undefeated for four straight years

2197
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 1: in rows. Number one player in the country. He's been

2198
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 1: the left tackle the old miss I like him. I

2199
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 1: think he's a really polished player. I think he's an

2200
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 1: NFL prototypical left tackle. I don't know that I think

2201
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 1: he could be a dominant player. I think he needs

2202
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 1: to work a little harder at it and work on

2203
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 1: his technique more to become that guy Andre Dillard at

2204
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 1: Washington State. Steve is a really good player. He played

2205
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 1: in that air raid offense there, you know, for for

2206
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 1: Mike Leach, so the ball comes out fast, you don't

2207
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:51,599
Speaker 1: do a lot of run blocking. But he's got really

2208
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 1: good technique. He's got really good size and long arms,

2209
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 1: all that stuff you're looking for. The guy that everybody's

2210
01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 1: kind of talking about. Jonah Williams at Alabama started every

2211
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 1: game there. I think he's a good player. I don't

2212
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 1: think he's a great player. I think, you know, his

2213
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 1: best position might be inside at guard. That's not unusual.

2214
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 1: We saw Zach Martin be a, you know, a great

2215
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 1: left tackle Notre Dame has been an All Pro guard

2216
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys. I think Cody Ford at Oklahoma

2217
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 1: looks to me like he could be a really powerful

2218
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 1: All Pro guard. He's played guard when he's the right tackle.

2219
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 1: Last year for Oklahoma had a good season, but he

2220
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:28,600
Speaker 1: just looks like a massive right guard that you know

2221
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 1: could play that position for a long time. And talk

2222
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:32,679
Speaker 1: a little bit further down the line, you've got guys

2223
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:34,200
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you can name these guys

2224
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:35,640
Speaker 1: off the top of your head. You got guys like

2225
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 1: Chris Lynstrom from Boston College or Dalton Risner from k State.

2226
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 1: When you get a little deeper into the first round,

2227
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 1: maybe into the mid second round, are there still some

2228
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 1: guys who are gonna put together good pro careers? Yeah,

2229
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean Dalton Rives or you just mentioned him, Steve.

2230
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 1: I mean, he started every game at Kansas State, played

2231
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 1: his first year at center, started every game there been,

2232
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, two time captain and the starter and starting

2233
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:58,800
Speaker 1: right tackle for the last three years. I think he's

2234
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 1: I do Big Twelve games every Saturday for the last

2235
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 1: eight years. He's the best right tackle I've seen in

2236
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 1: the Big twelve and eight years. Great guy, I mean,

2237
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, just a solid professional, professional work habits. I mean,

2238
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a really good pro. He

2239
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: can play guarder tackle. I think I don't see anybody

2240
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,599
Speaker 1: beating him. There's something. There's some really good players though.

2241
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:20,600
Speaker 1: You know a little bit further down. If you'd go

2242
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:23,599
Speaker 1: to Northern Iowa or Northern Illinois, you go see Martin

2243
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 1: Max Sharping, go watch him against Florida State and Brian

2244
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 1: Burns this year he shut him out. Um Yadi could

2245
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: just at at at West Virginia is a really good,

2246
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 1: great athlete out of Miami. Been the left tackle there

2247
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:38,639
Speaker 1: West Virginia for three years. I think he's a good player.

2248
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 1: Titus Howard at Alabama States has been the right tackle there.

2249
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 1: I don't know who coaches at Alabama State, but he's

2250
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 1: well coached. I think you get, you know, good solid

2251
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 1: players in this draft in the on the offensive line,

2252
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 1: in the third and fourth rounds that are going to

2253
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 1: have long NFL careers. Right Balding, you're our guests from

2254
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 1: the NFL Network getting ready to ramp it up with

2255
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:00,879
Speaker 1: the NFL Network this weekend, and they'll be in Nashville

2256
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 1: and of course at their headquarters in Los Angeles. I

2257
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 1: want to ask you about wide receiver prospect Brian, and

2258
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 1: is it fair to say that there are just a handful,

2259
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of legitimate first round wide receiver prospects

2260
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:15,959
Speaker 1: coming off the board Thursday night. What do you think? Yeah, probably,

2261
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, maybe two, you know, probably right now, Hollywood, Hollywood,

2262
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 1: probably Hollywood Brown probably is one of those. DK Metcalf.

2263
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 1: But I think there's a lot of good players in

2264
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,679
Speaker 1: this draft, you know. I mean Paris Campbell at Ohio

2265
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 1: State was a slot receiver there. Nobody in the history

2266
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 1: of Ohio State has ever caught one ninety passes in

2267
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 1: the season. He ran a four three one forty. You know,

2268
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 1: he is an electric player. There's a lot of things

2269
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 1: you can do with him. It's probably the second round pick.

2270
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 1: Nikkil Harry is my favorite wide receiver in this draft.

2271
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 1: He looks like a faster. I mean, he's just a

2272
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: He's just a big, strong kid man. He looks like

2273
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 1: a strong side linebacker. But I was with him last

2274
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 1: Friday at the NFL Network. I liked him a lot.

2275
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 1: He could play in side or outside. He could be

2276
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:04,560
Speaker 1: your kick returner. A Keen Butler at Iowa State is

2277
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,600
Speaker 1: the biggest receiver in this draft. At six six the

2278
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:10,560
Speaker 1: wingspan of a condor. Ran really well at the Combine.

2279
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:15,360
Speaker 1: Game changing type player, great red zone threat. A J.

2280
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: Brown at Old Miss, if you watched him at the combine,

2281
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 1: might be the most smooth, fluid wide receiver this whole draft.

2282
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 1: I might just think there's probably ten or fifteen guys,

2283
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 1: whether they're you know, second round Bob in the first

2284
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 1: round into the third round, that are going to be

2285
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 1: really good pros. I mean they've had good college careers,

2286
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 1: a lot of production, and they've got great size, you know,

2287
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,639
Speaker 1: tremendous size, and they run well enough at the NFL level.

2288
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 1: Would it be crazy for the Bills to consider like

2289
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 1: a DK Metcalf at ninth overall first round? It would

2290
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:50,640
Speaker 1: be crazy. I mean, you know, you're getting a guy

2291
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 1: that's sixty four and two thirty pounds and you know,

2292
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 1: runs like a defensive back. I mean, he's a little

2293
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 1: straight line, he's a little stiff for me, but I

2294
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 1: mean he's gonna run by a lot of people. I

2295
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: don't think he's the most polished wide receiver, but he

2296
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 1: might be the most talented. I think. You know, if

2297
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 1: you're Hollywood Brown, you know it's coming off a foot injury.

2298
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 1: But I mean he's the most electrifying receiver in this draft. Now,

2299
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 1: you know, people don't want to draft one hundred and

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01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 1: seventy pound guy dripping wet um, you know, to be

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01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 1: an elite player. But I mean he's gonna change the

2302
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 1: game probably day one in the NFL. I mean, he's

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01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,599
Speaker 1: gonna people are gonna realize just how fast this guy

2304
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,400
Speaker 1: is and how quickly he gets to top speed, whether

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01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 1: it's running a shallow cross or a go route or

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01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:34,360
Speaker 1: a double move. I mean, he's he's just a lightning

2307
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 1: bug out there. And you know, I mean, but I

2308
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 1: but I you know, look Dk Metcalf at nine. If

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01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:42,680
Speaker 1: you're looking to build around, you know, Josh Allen, I

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01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:46,600
Speaker 1: would say, you know, either Howkinson or Metcalf wouldn't be

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01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 1: bad selections. Or maybe Juwan Taylor. I mean, pick an

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01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, a wide receiver, you know, I mean to

2313
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 1: build around that that quarterback. I think it'd be smart moves.

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01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 1: And I know you've written a little bit about another receiver,

2315
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 1: not a first round prospect obviously, but Deebo Samuel South Carolina.

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01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 1: You'd like him right from what I've read on your

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01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 1: Twitter feed, He's a lot to like. I mean, he's uh,

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01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he's as strong as anybody in

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01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 1: this drafts. He looks like a stud running back at

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01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You know, from the waist down, he's just

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01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 1: very powerful. He wants to return kicks. You know, he's

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01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 1: returned a bunch of them, four of them for touchdowns

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01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 1: in his college career. He wants to do that part

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01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 1: of it, you know. I mean, they weren't a great

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01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 1: team but he was a great player on a average team.

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Speaker 1: But he you know, you watch him against the national

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01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 1: champions Clemson Tigers. You know, he caught twelve balls for

2328
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:38,679
Speaker 1: two hundred ten yards and three touchdowns that day. Clemson

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01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything to slow him down. He's just one

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01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 1: of those guys. I think you can get him in

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01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:46,439
Speaker 1: the second round that you know, I think you're going

2332
01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:48,760
Speaker 1: to be really happy with. Is there a position group

2333
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 1: that is almost non existent in this draft? Is there?

2334
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's there's only like two or

2335
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:56,640
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks that are listed at the top of this

2336
01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:00,560
Speaker 1: maybe four. But is there any quarter or any you know,

2337
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 1: position group that is you know, lacking in this draft.

2338
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 1: If you need one, this is the wrong year to

2339
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 1: need one. Well, I would say, you know, if you're

2340
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 1: looking forward middle linebacker receive I think there were five

2341
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 1: taken in the first round last year, and you got

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01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 1: one of them. I mean, I think there's Devin White

2343
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 1: and Devin Bush, and I think there's a big drop

2344
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 1: after those two guys. In fact, you might not see

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01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 1: another inside linebacker drafted after those two in the first

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01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 1: round until the third round. Maybe Jermaine Pratt out of

2347
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 1: you know, our Mac Wilson, one of those two guys,

2348
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 1: maybe in the third round, but I mean there's a

2349
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 1: big drop off after Devin White and Devin Bush at

2350
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 1: that position. Hey, Baldie, why did I get the sense

2351
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 1: that today's strade, the Frank Clark trade is just the

2352
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 1: precursor for what's going to be kind of a fun

2353
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 1: couple of days here. I think people will be making

2354
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 1: moves all over the place. No, well, I mean you

2355
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 1: never know. I mean, I know, just talking to the

2356
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 1: you know, a team yesterday, they were spent the entire

2357
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 1: day going over potential trade scenarios or if something happens,

2358
01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do, and just getting ready for every scenario.

2359
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the quarter backs always drive the majority of

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01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 1: the trades. I don't think it's a great crop of quarterbacks,

2361
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:10,680
Speaker 1: but you know, we've seen quarterbacks overdrafted before, so you know,

2362
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 1: and if they feel like you know, Drew Lock or

2363
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is a top flight guy in a first

2364
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 1: round pick and you get five years in the first

2365
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,560
Speaker 1: round for him, then teams are probably gonna, you know,

2366
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 1: they may you know, move to try and get it.

2367
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 1: But Miami looks like they're gonna stay Pat at thirteen,

2368
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 1: they're not gonna take one. And you know it's Josh Rosen,

2369
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: you know, is he gonna get traded between now and

2370
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:32,599
Speaker 1: Thursday night and that takes another one off the board.

2371
01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 1: So I just don't know how many of them are

2372
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,639
Speaker 1: gonna get traded for. It's gonna be fine. We're gonna

2373
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: enjoy watching it. Hey, Baldy, thanks for this. We'll talk

2374
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 1: to you again. I have a great week there on

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01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,760
Speaker 1: the network. We appreciate it. Thanks guys, take care now,

2376
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:45,799
Speaker 1: all right, thanks in Balding your network analysts. NFL Network

2377
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 1: does bald these breakdowns on NFL dot com. You can

2378
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 1: see some of his great video breakdowns and some of

2379
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 1: these draft prospects. Eleven seasons in the NFL with the Cowboys,

2380
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:56,759
Speaker 1: the Colts, and the Eagles, a little cup of coffee

2381
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills. Good guy. He's become kind of

2382
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:02,760
Speaker 1: a central guy in analyzing the draft now and even

2383
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 1: during the regular season. And you know, with the video

2384
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 1: breakdowns that he does are really good and it's easy.

2385
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 1: It's nice too, because the guy played, and he played

2386
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 1: at a high level for a long time and he

2387
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 1: knows what he's looking at and it's fun. And even

2388
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 1: for a guy like me, I don't spend too much time,

2389
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: and he knows about hand placement, handwork, footwork and all

2390
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:22,840
Speaker 1: how that all works together. And like you said as well,

2391
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 1: and you know, the coaches of the NFL level do

2392
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 1: this too. One of the things that Baldi says, you

2393
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 1: can tell this kid's been coached. Yeah, you know what

2394
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying that that's really a significant step in a

2395
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 1: kid's progression when you can tell somebody has had an

2396
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 1: effect on the way he plays. Some of these guys

2397
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 1: get out there and they're mallers and they do all

2398
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 1: this stuff. But when you get a kid who has

2399
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 1: been coached, you know that you can coach him too.

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01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna listen to your coaching. He listens to what

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01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:53,080
Speaker 1: he's told, He does what he knows his scheme, knows

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01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 1: what he's trying to do, knows why he's trying to

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01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 1: do what he's doing being told to do, and he

2404
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 1: gets it done. That's that's the mark of a pro

2405
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 1: a guy who is given a plan and he executes

2406
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 1: it with uh with some skill. That's that's a big

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01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 1: step and it's something that a lot of coaches will

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01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 1: admit to and look for as well. We thank Brian Baldinger.

2409
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 1: He will see him all weekend long on NFL Network. Hey,

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01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: this was a question. I asked this spright before he

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01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 1: went to the break at the top of the hour.

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01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:20,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of a really fascinating trivia

2413
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 1: type question. James Palmer, NFL Network came up with this.

2414
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:25,480
Speaker 1: I think I've seen it somewhere else before. But if

2415
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 1: Kenna Murray is picked in the first round Thursday night,

2416
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,000
Speaker 1: he will be the first athlete to ever be a

2417
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 1: first round pick in both the Major League Baseball in

2418
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 1: the NFL drafts. The first three others came close. Do

2419
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 1: you want do you remember who we talked about before? Yeah?

2420
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 1: I remember. There was only one that really surprised me. Well,

2421
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 1: the one I spit out right away was Boa Jackson.

2422
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 1: That was an easy one second round Major League Baseball

2423
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 1: pick on the first in the NFL. Right I go

2424
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:49,800
Speaker 1: through that, I'm trying to think, who would surprise you?

2425
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 1: John Elway. John Elway didn't sup right, and he played

2426
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 1: baseball up here. The third one, the Snake did, Yeah,

2427
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,720
Speaker 1: Kenny Stabler. Kenny Stabler was closed second round in both

2428
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 1: m MLB in NFL. I didn't know he was a

2429
01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 1: baseball player at all. Yeah, and he was. That got me.

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01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 1: It's a cool question. Yeah, it's a very cool question, Lefty.

2431
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 1: I imagine he was either what is he a picture

2432
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 1: or a picture or with a quarterback with a good arm, lefty. Yeah,

2433
01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 1: there you go. Hey, Steve and I did this in

2434
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:19,960
Speaker 1: the first hour of the show. We will revisit along

2435
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 1: with our twitter question, what's the best case scenario for

2436
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 1: the Bills Thursday night in the first round? What do

2437
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:26,760
Speaker 1: you have? We'll read some tweets on the tweet sheet

2438
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 1: and we'll take some phone calls about that, and you

2439
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 1: may want to react to. We did a little exercise.

2440
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 1: Who the Bill is gonna wind up with? First round

2441
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 1: Thursday Night, First pick Thursday Night? Who do you think?

2442
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 1: Steve gave four? I gave four. We have a gang

2443
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:40,720
Speaker 1: of eight. We will recap that group when we come back.

2444
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:44,240
Speaker 1: We think we think we have the Bills first pick

2445
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:45,960
Speaker 1: in that group of eight, but maybe not. We're gonna

2446
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:48,879
Speaker 1: look bad if we don't. I am absolutely a reverse barometer.

2447
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 1: If I picked the four guys that they're gonna take,

2448
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 1: none of them are gonna get I am never We're

2449
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:54,800
Speaker 1: gonna in depth in that when we come back plus

2450
01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 1: NFL True and False, Come on back One Bills Live

2451
01:56:57,160 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

2452
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasking on with John

2453
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 1: Murphy here at One Bill's Drive. We're talking about the

2454
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. We got caught in a deep conversation and

2455
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 1: I made it back before Murphy did, so I brought

2456
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 1: us back from our I'm okay, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

2457
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 1: I knew. I just didn't want to leave them people hanging.

2458
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:31,920
Speaker 1: So the Frank Clark trade is made. In case you

2459
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 1: missed at Seattle trades away Frank Clark to Kansas City

2460
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 1: for twenty nineteen first round pick, this year's twenty nine,

2461
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty second round pick, and they're flipping third

2462
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 1: round picks this year. And the Chiefs have gone ahead.

2463
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 1: They probably did this before the trade and struck a

2464
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 1: new deal with Frank Clark, who had contract issues in Seattle.

2465
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 1: The Chiefs in Frank Clark reach agreement on a five year,

2466
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 1: one hundred and five and a half million dollar contract

2467
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 1: greater total than DeMarcus Lawrence with sixty three and a

2468
01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 1: half million guarantee. Man. That's a lot of money for

2469
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 1: a past holy five years. One hundred and five and

2470
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:06,760
Speaker 1: a half million dollars sixty three and a half million guarantee.

2471
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 1: Wow right, I mean you're used to huge numbers for quarterbacks.

2472
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:15,880
Speaker 1: He had thirteen sacks this last year. He was good.

2473
01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:18,760
Speaker 1: He was good, no question. He is good. Yeah, and

2474
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna be good for the Chiefs, but they're gonna

2475
01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 1: pay him the money to be good. Steve and I

2476
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 1: spent a big chunk of the first hour of the

2477
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:28,800
Speaker 1: show going through our dart throwing exercise, because look, I

2478
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 1: don't know who they're gonna pick on Thursday night. You know,

2479
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:33,320
Speaker 1: we don't know, but we have a feeling of who

2480
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 1: belongs there and who might fit the bill for the Bills.

2481
01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 1: So we asked the question of ourselves who the bill

2482
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 1: is gonna wind up with in the first On the

2483
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 1: first day, Steve came up with four names. I came

2484
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 1: up with four names. We alternated, we made sure we

2485
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 1: didn't have the same four. What we arrived at were

2486
01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 1: eight names, and we believe is best we can guess

2487
01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 1: that the Bills are going to get one of these eight.

2488
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 1: Steve picked offensive lineman Jonah Williams of Alabama offensive tackle

2489
01:58:57,080 --> 01:59:00,160
Speaker 1: Andre Dillard of Washington State, tight end t J. Hockenson

2490
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 1: of Iowa, defensive end Rashaon Gary of Michigan. I picked

2491
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver DK metcalf Old, miss defensive tackle Ed Oliver

2492
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:11,320
Speaker 1: of Houston, defensive end Montez Sweat Mississippi State, defensive tackle

2493
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:13,520
Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins of Clemson. What do you think of that?

2494
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 1: Who are you missing from that list? Is there a

2495
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 1: ninth player? Somebody suggested on Twitter should have gone nine?

2496
01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 1: The Bills have the ninth pick. We could have. I

2497
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:23,520
Speaker 1: didn't want to keep adding names because then it gets easier. Yeah,

2498
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 1: we're hanging out there a little bit. They the Bills

2499
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 1: pick might not be on that list. Those eight. The

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01:59:29,120 --> 01:59:33,560
Speaker 1: real question was too that. I when we started this exercise,

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01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:36,360
Speaker 1: it you know, this morning, like nine thirty or quarter

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01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 1: of ten, we started writing these names down, and we

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01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:42,480
Speaker 1: had overlapping. I mean I had ed Oliver on my

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01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:45,680
Speaker 1: list as well. I had Hockinson on my list right

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01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 1: and you had your Hockinson on yours. So if we

2506
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 1: went down to it, I mean it's yeah, it's we

2507
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:55,000
Speaker 1: got some overlap there. It's probably only five different names

2508
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 1: on our list originally originally. Yeah, that's not true. We're

2509
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:01,920
Speaker 1: probably sick. Okay, probably had six. What do you think

2510
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 1: we had two? Now? You had two on yours that

2511
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:08,960
Speaker 1: I took off right, Yes, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I

2512
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:11,360
Speaker 1: hadn't that. Maybe that might be our go to for

2513
02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 1: Thursday this year as we come on the air at

2514
02:00:13,720 --> 02:00:15,920
Speaker 1: eight o'clock and cut it down. The less chance you

2515
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:18,640
Speaker 1: haven't being right here man, yes, but the better chance

2516
02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:22,080
Speaker 1: you haven't been brilliant form at eight o'clock. We're coming

2517
02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:23,760
Speaker 1: on the air at eight o'clock and just between you

2518
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:25,680
Speaker 1: and me, we're gonna have our little list honed down

2519
02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:29,200
Speaker 1: to the guys we had hold down to four, I know,

2520
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:31,560
Speaker 1: but you had to take some guys off. You had

2521
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:37,160
Speaker 1: to take Jonah Williams off, right, and Howkinson and Hockinson off.

2522
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:39,880
Speaker 1: So we both have Jonah Williams and Hockinson on. I

2523
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:41,560
Speaker 1: had to at all of her on. So there's three

2524
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:45,880
Speaker 1: right there, there's three. Right, We're gonna there's gonna be

2525
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:49,120
Speaker 1: negotiations here. I'm not in favor of cutting my list anymore.

2526
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:52,920
Speaker 1: It's not list, it's our list. You can cutting see

2527
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 1: our list. Is a is A is a out on

2528
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:59,000
Speaker 1: a limb with a saw behind us sawing it off.

2529
02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 1: You're comfortable in that position. What do you think about

2530
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 1: that list? What do you think as far as the

2531
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:09,360
Speaker 1: best case scenario for the Bills in the first round

2532
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 1: on Thursday night? What do you think? Eight o three

2533
02:01:11,640 --> 02:01:14,760
Speaker 1: five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

2534
02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:17,000
Speaker 1: two five fifty. You got a tweet on the tweet

2535
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:19,920
Speaker 1: sheet from Ronnie. He says the draft, This draft is

2536
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:23,480
Speaker 1: deep with tight ends and defensive linemen. That said, I

2537
02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:26,240
Speaker 1: think ideal would be trade back, pick up an extra

2538
02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:28,560
Speaker 1: second rounder and get Hokinson in the first round, and

2539
02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:31,120
Speaker 1: then a d lineman in the second. Go for that.

2540
02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:33,600
Speaker 1: I would take that. Ye mean, it won't be one

2541
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:36,080
Speaker 1: of the premier defensive linemen in the second. But as

2542
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 1: you say, and you're right, it's a deep defensive line crop.

2543
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:41,920
Speaker 1: We are told think about this now. There are some

2544
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:45,920
Speaker 1: teams behind the Bills deep in this first round who

2545
02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:48,560
Speaker 1: might be interested in trading in one or two of

2546
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:51,560
Speaker 1: those draft picks and some other stuff that we've all

2547
02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:54,080
Speaker 1: talked about and getting up into where the Bills are

2548
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:56,880
Speaker 1: the top ten teams, like the Raiders, they pick at

2549
02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:58,960
Speaker 1: number four, then they pick at number twenty four, and

2550
02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:01,840
Speaker 1: number twenty seven, and the Bills could say, okay, you

2551
02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:03,960
Speaker 1: take our number nine pick, We'll take your twenty four

2552
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 1: and you're twenty seven, and we'll make our picks. Then

2553
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:09,960
Speaker 1: they could do it. Now, think about this. They could

2554
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:12,320
Speaker 1: look at Seattle, and Seattle could say, listen, we want

2555
02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:14,920
Speaker 1: the number nine overall pick. We'll give you our twenty

2556
02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:17,640
Speaker 1: first pick and the twenty ninth pick that we just

2557
02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:20,040
Speaker 1: got from Kansas City, So you can pick at twenty

2558
02:02:20,120 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 1: one and twenty nine if you give us the number

2559
02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 1: nine overall pick. Are those viable options for the Bills

2560
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:29,480
Speaker 1: to drop back into the twenties for the number nine

2561
02:02:29,560 --> 02:02:32,440
Speaker 1: pick with either Kansas City or Oakland. I'm not say

2562
02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:37,520
Speaker 1: Kansas City with Seattle or Oakland. So those teams have

2563
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 1: extra picks that they could do. Green Bay, if green

2564
02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 1: Bay wanted to move up to number nine, they could

2565
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:45,600
Speaker 1: move up from number twelve to number nine and they

2566
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:47,680
Speaker 1: green Bay would still have the thirtieth pick in the

2567
02:02:47,720 --> 02:02:50,200
Speaker 1: first round of the pack. So there's teams with multiple

2568
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:54,440
Speaker 1: first round picks. And it's Oakland, it's Seattle now as

2569
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:59,760
Speaker 1: of today, and green Bay, so lots lot's going on.

2570
02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:02,960
Speaker 1: You know, the Giants have two first round picks. They're

2571
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:05,520
Speaker 1: at number five or and I'm sorry, the Giants at

2572
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 1: number six, and the Giants aart number seventeen. So there's

2573
02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 1: teams with multiple first round picks. They could use them

2574
02:03:12,760 --> 02:03:14,920
Speaker 1: to get up into the first round trade with Buffalo

2575
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:18,560
Speaker 1: plus a second rounder. So there's there are some options

2576
02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:21,480
Speaker 1: out there. But like that, if Buffalo is willing to

2577
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:24,120
Speaker 1: do that, wants to do that, one of those teams

2578
02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:28,160
Speaker 1: is probably the only are the only candidates to do that.

2579
02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:33,600
Speaker 1: You've heard I forwarded you this last night. Houston and

2580
02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:36,080
Speaker 1: Carolina have been linked to the Bills because of the

2581
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:39,400
Speaker 1: relationships of the executives to maybe the Bills will deal

2582
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:42,280
Speaker 1: with them and move upward back or in the draft.

2583
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't heard. We aren't hitting anything. Yeah,

2584
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:47,440
Speaker 1: that's just dot connecting. I'm not impressed. How many people

2585
02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:49,840
Speaker 1: in this building right now, in the building right now,

2586
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:51,800
Speaker 1: I know you and I aren't two of them. How

2587
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:54,200
Speaker 1: many people know who the Bills are going to select

2588
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 1: if everything stays as is static above them? How many

2589
02:03:57,160 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 1: people know the order of the guys that they're actually

2590
02:04:01,080 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 1: in the money? Two or three? I think in the

2591
02:04:03,080 --> 02:04:10,800
Speaker 1: building three tops probably Sean McDermott, Brandon beans. You think

2592
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:14,080
Speaker 1: Joe Shane does all right, there's three. Get him on

2593
02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 1: the phone, Yeah, get him on the show. Yeah. Nobody

2594
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:20,120
Speaker 1: else will probably know. You know, Dan Morgan probably doesn't

2595
02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:23,480
Speaker 1: know all that. He may, but I'll bet you they don't.

2596
02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:25,120
Speaker 1: I'll bet you they keep that pretty close to the vest.

2597
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:27,400
Speaker 1: You got teams like the Raiders sitting everybody out of

2598
02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:32,720
Speaker 1: the building so they don't talk, so they don't know exactly.

2599
02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:35,560
Speaker 1: Let's go to tom and West Seneca. Hello, Tommy, around

2600
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:39,160
Speaker 1: the air, Murf, Steve Si, thanks for having me. I

2601
02:04:40,920 --> 02:04:45,640
Speaker 1: see you guys. Steve picked Rashaun Gary a defensive player,

2602
02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:49,760
Speaker 1: and Murph, you've got Oliver Schweat and Wilkins. I think

2603
02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:52,280
Speaker 1: it's going to be a defensive player that they'll go for.

2604
02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:56,880
Speaker 1: I think that they fill the void on offense with

2605
02:04:57,160 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 1: free agency. Now that all being s I would like

2606
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:06,280
Speaker 1: to make a comment about this. Uh Kyler Murray. Yeah,

2607
02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:11,200
Speaker 1: clearly he's a clearly taling a quarterback. But I think

2608
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:14,440
Speaker 1: it would be a pick for the Giants to take

2609
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:20,040
Speaker 1: him because you never know about these smaller quarterbacks. It

2610
02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:23,160
Speaker 1: would be a gamble. And if he didn't, he didn't,

2611
02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 1: If he failed then that the Giants fans would be

2612
02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:32,160
Speaker 1: all over the Giant. Uh, yeah, Gentleman, They're all already

2613
02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:33,920
Speaker 1: all over him. This is gonna be an interesting pick

2614
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:36,960
Speaker 1: draft for the Giants. Thursday Night's going to be interesting

2615
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:40,240
Speaker 1: based on what's come before last year's draft in particular. Yeah,

2616
02:05:40,360 --> 02:05:44,120
Speaker 1: the Giants are being scrutinized big time, and they are

2617
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:45,840
Speaker 1: on thin ice with their fans. I think in a

2618
02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:48,440
Speaker 1: lot to a large degree, how they've handled Eli. The

2619
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:50,920
Speaker 1: fans are a little bit more done with Eli than

2620
02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:55,080
Speaker 1: the organization seems to be. They've passed on all the

2621
02:05:55,200 --> 02:05:57,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacks last year, and there were four of them in

2622
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:00,240
Speaker 1: the first round. The Giants could have had just about

2623
02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:02,240
Speaker 1: any one of the four, certainly three of the four

2624
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 1: if they had wanted them, and they passed on all

2625
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:08,400
Speaker 1: of them because they've got Eli Manning on their roster.

2626
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 1: They took to say Kwan Barkley. There's a lot about

2627
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:15,760
Speaker 1: the Giants that has their fans scratching their heads. To

2628
02:06:15,880 --> 02:06:21,080
Speaker 1: be kind, Dave Getleman has got to, you know, get

2629
02:06:21,120 --> 02:06:23,560
Speaker 1: something done in this draft. It's time for the Giants

2630
02:06:23,640 --> 02:06:26,080
Speaker 1: to you know, come out of mediocrity in the regular

2631
02:06:26,160 --> 02:06:29,160
Speaker 1: season and get into the playoffs and maybe win that division.

2632
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:31,440
Speaker 1: Their fans are ready for that. They feel like it's

2633
02:06:31,480 --> 02:06:32,720
Speaker 1: time to do that. If they're gonna do that with

2634
02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:34,920
Speaker 1: Eli Manning, they got to support him and give him

2635
02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:37,000
Speaker 1: some help upfront. We'll see if they can do that.

2636
02:06:37,320 --> 02:06:42,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, Tom, the Giant fans. I don't

2637
02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:45,720
Speaker 1: think Kyler Murray is even an option for that. That

2638
02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:50,160
Speaker 1: organization right now squeezing one more called Jim in Pittsburgh. Hello, Jim,

2639
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:54,640
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Hey, Murph, Steve a great shows that.

2640
02:06:55,000 --> 02:06:58,160
Speaker 1: If you're still counting another vote for Steve for the

2641
02:06:58,200 --> 02:07:00,520
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, yeah, we don't have those up anymore.

2642
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:07,440
Speaker 1: We think we've reached a consensus. It's unanimous, okay, uh yeah,

2643
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:10,040
Speaker 1: And this is my favorite time of year because I

2644
02:07:10,160 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 1: just hope from the eternals the same goes. Uh. And

2645
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:17,760
Speaker 1: I always find myself reflecting on, you know, the glory

2646
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:20,160
Speaker 1: years and you know, how can we bring it back?

2647
02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:22,800
Speaker 1: And the one thing, you know, for my childhood, I

2648
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 1: always remember thinking, God, just get the ball to the

2649
02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:28,560
Speaker 1: offense and uh, you know, Jim will move it down

2650
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:30,440
Speaker 1: the field. It gets some point, you know, and we

2651
02:07:30,520 --> 02:07:32,880
Speaker 1: can uh and we can win. You know, no matter

2652
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:35,760
Speaker 1: of the situation. But the truth is is that, um,

2653
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, those teams were great because they were they

2654
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:40,680
Speaker 1: were a full team, right, I mean they were strong

2655
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:44,040
Speaker 1: and every every three phase and you had Bruce Smith

2656
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:47,320
Speaker 1: bringing the heat on the defense. So it leads me to,

2657
02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:50,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really torn with this draft because, um,

2658
02:07:51,400 --> 02:07:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, although we were a top five in defense,

2659
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:56,520
Speaker 1: I really feel like we do need some explosiveness on

2660
02:07:56,680 --> 02:07:59,440
Speaker 1: defense in the middle to you know, penetrate the pocket

2661
02:07:59,560 --> 02:08:02,200
Speaker 1: and be able to uh, you know, get to Brady

2662
02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:06,800
Speaker 1: for example, quickly and other quarterbacks. Um. Yeah, but um,

2663
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, I get the same feeling, you know, with

2664
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:11,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allen even though he's, uh, he's a little bit

2665
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:14,560
Speaker 1: on you know, he's still got to prove it totally

2666
02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:17,920
Speaker 1: right with uh this season, I think. But I get

2667
02:08:17,960 --> 02:08:20,320
Speaker 1: the same feeling with him that give him the ball.

2668
02:08:20,480 --> 02:08:24,000
Speaker 1: He's so athletic and explosive that you know, he can

2669
02:08:24,040 --> 02:08:26,200
Speaker 1: bring the balls on the field. But I do feel

2670
02:08:26,240 --> 02:08:28,560
Speaker 1: like he needs more weapons around him, and so that's

2671
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:31,680
Speaker 1: why I would lean towards Hoskins. I think, Uh, it's

2672
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:33,440
Speaker 1: because it's kind of like a twofer, you know, you

2673
02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:35,880
Speaker 1: you have more help on the on the on the

2674
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 1: line to you know, help the running game, which was

2675
02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:41,120
Speaker 1: week last year, but also you've got an outlet in

2676
02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:43,440
Speaker 1: the passing game, Hopkinson. You're seeing the tight end I

2677
02:08:43,600 --> 02:08:47,040
Speaker 1: or tight end? Yeah yeah, yeah, I get that. I missed. Yeah,

2678
02:08:47,240 --> 02:08:50,440
Speaker 1: So I get you, and you're right, I'm and it is.

2679
02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:54,879
Speaker 1: That was going into the offseason something the Bills painfully

2680
02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:57,560
Speaker 1: needed to address. They went through the entire free agency

2681
02:08:57,680 --> 02:09:00,520
Speaker 1: market and got a ton of offensive line and signed

2682
02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:05,240
Speaker 1: two quality wide receivers. Albeit you know, a lot of

2683
02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:07,160
Speaker 1: people the criticism would be they don't have a big,

2684
02:09:07,440 --> 02:09:11,080
Speaker 1: big time number one guy on the outside yet, but

2685
02:09:11,200 --> 02:09:13,160
Speaker 1: they did fill that room with a couple of really

2686
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:15,680
Speaker 1: good veterans and some quality free agents and some and

2687
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:18,360
Speaker 1: some guys that could be good, uh and that are

2688
02:09:18,440 --> 02:09:19,880
Speaker 1: but are at this point you'd have to say they're

2689
02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:22,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of a roll of the dice. So yeah,

2690
02:09:22,840 --> 02:09:25,880
Speaker 1: I mean it is. I think this offseason has been

2691
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:29,560
Speaker 1: about making the offense better. And I think the only

2692
02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 1: reason people have gotten full circle to talking about hey,

2693
02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:34,960
Speaker 1: replacing Kyle Williams, get him some explosive guys on the

2694
02:09:35,160 --> 02:09:37,800
Speaker 1: defensive front is because they feel really good about what

2695
02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:40,000
Speaker 1: the Bills have done in free agency, but let's face it,

2696
02:09:40,120 --> 02:09:44,320
Speaker 1: when this season offseason started, helping Josh Allen was job one,

2697
02:09:44,640 --> 02:09:46,640
Speaker 1: and I think it still should be. In my heart

2698
02:09:46,680 --> 02:09:48,320
Speaker 1: of heart, I think they've taken a big step forward

2699
02:09:48,360 --> 02:09:51,680
Speaker 1: in that direction too. Oh absolutely absolutely. I think Mitch

2700
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:57,160
Speaker 1: Morrise was a was a brilliant signing. U Insecky Tie

2701
02:09:57,200 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 1: and secki Is. We had the guys from Pro Football

2702
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:02,320
Speaker 1: Focus on They said, he's the best swing tackle available

2703
02:10:02,360 --> 02:10:04,480
Speaker 1: maybe in the NFL, A guy who can come in

2704
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:07,720
Speaker 1: and do that. But I still frowning. Brown and Beasley

2705
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:11,720
Speaker 1: were huge editions. Tyler Croft is a tight end that

2706
02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:14,760
Speaker 1: is a pass catching tight end. So they have made

2707
02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:16,960
Speaker 1: some strides with Frank Gore and all of that with

2708
02:10:17,200 --> 02:10:20,080
Speaker 1: t J Yelden. So they've added some guys on that

2709
02:10:20,160 --> 02:10:22,640
Speaker 1: side of the ball, particularly upfront. I don't know if

2710
02:10:22,720 --> 02:10:24,960
Speaker 1: I if I believe in my heart that they've got

2711
02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:28,480
Speaker 1: enough upfront, I would like to draft a big time

2712
02:10:28,600 --> 02:10:31,960
Speaker 1: tackle or guard up front, just to make it just

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Speaker 1: that much more solidified up there. Gonna break. We're back

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Speaker 1: with more One Bill's Live from One Bill's Driving. This

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Okay, so what have we learned?

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Speaker 1: provider of the Buffalo Bills. What do we learned? Gary

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Speaker 1: Grantley was on the show with us. He is a

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Speaker 1: NFL editor writer for Sports Illustrated dot com, and he

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Speaker 1: as a mock draft. He says the mock draft for

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Speaker 1: the people, he called it. And in his mock draft,

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Speaker 1: he as a Bill is going with Mississippi Ole miss

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Speaker 1: wide receiver DK Metcalf. Here's what he said about that.

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. Just culturally, I think he slides into that

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Speaker 1: Bill's locking room so easily. He's A he's humble. I

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Speaker 1: know everyone saw the shirtless picture and they might have

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Speaker 1: thoughts about him. He's a very humble kid. He's a

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Speaker 1: he's from a very debout family. I think, as as

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Speaker 1: most of us know, faith is very important to to

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott's I think he slides in there so easily.

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Speaker 1: And look, he's a he's a college town kid. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, with all the with all the stupid, unfair

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Speaker 1: stereotypes about the Western New York in the Buffalo area.

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Speaker 1: The guys who end up going there and loving it

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Speaker 1: always say, you know, oh, it felt just like a

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Speaker 1: college town. I think DK fits so cleanly on the field,

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Speaker 1: in the locker room, in the community. I love to

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Speaker 1: see hm Land there. It's Gary Gramling from Sports Illustrated.

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Speaker 1: Also on the show. Just a couple of minutes ago

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Speaker 1: this hour, Brian Baldinger from NFL Network. He joined us.

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Speaker 1: He has crunched a ton of video about these draft prospects,

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Speaker 1: and when he asked him about an interesting defensive tackle prospect,

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, who because of a knee injury, may slip

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Speaker 1: way down in the first round, here's what he said.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a first rounder. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a top five player in this draft

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Speaker 1: if he's healthy. I mean, he's just a physically dominant player.

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Speaker 1: I'm good friends with his defense line coach at Mississippi State,

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Speaker 1: coach in the NFL a long time, Brian Baker's nowt

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Speaker 1: he's now with Nick at Alabama, But just talking to him,

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Speaker 1: what kind of player he was to coach? Just country strong,

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Speaker 1: I mean physically just manhandles people the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: But he also stayed in college this year because he

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Speaker 1: wanted to work on his quick escapes where he didn't

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Speaker 1: have to muscle guys every every down, and he did

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Speaker 1: that this year. I thought he was I mean, like

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Speaker 1: I said, I think he's a top five player at

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Speaker 1: his draft. You're probably gonna have to red shirt him

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Speaker 1: through October. You probably get him the second half of

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Speaker 1: the season next year, and I think you'll get a

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Speaker 1: guy that could come in and, you know, play well

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Speaker 1: right away. So Simmons is country strong, country So I

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Speaker 1: play golf with my brother and he'll hit a decent

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Speaker 1: drive and he says, I'm just country strong. All right.

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Speaker 1: It's blogey somebody describe You can't self describe yourself as

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Speaker 1: country strong strong, not unless you yeah, unless you're talking

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Speaker 1: about your odor or something more. On the draft coming

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Speaker 1: up tomorrow, obviously, as we count down to the draft

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Speaker 1: for two days away, Steve and I'll be here Thursday

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Speaker 1: night to cover the draft on radio. Cover Joe the

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Speaker 1: eight pm Tomorrow show job a Scalia Joe B from

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Speaker 1: Channel seven Draft expert that he is. He'll join us

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Speaker 1: for one last look at his U mock draft and

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Speaker 1: t J. Yelden, New Bills running back is going to

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Speaker 1: join this tomorrow as well. You up for that tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: I am. That'll be a good show. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to that me too. Today it was good too. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for tuning this. It's very energetic. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: our production assistance George Blast, Jeff Coltonick Thomas Homider, Kelly Rude,

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Speaker 1: j J. Tirito, Kevin Cargis, team's robal our producer Jay Harris.

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Speaker 1: Seeing tomorrow at noon right here from One Bill's Drive.

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